Another disclaimer just to be safe: this is not a Faruzan hate video. Her issues are workable, but in the game’s hardest content, she is very very difficult to work with at low constellations without sacrificing a huge chunk of her value.
I swear if you don't have her c6 And you just work with something like c0 You need more than 320 er To barely get your Burst back if not You gonna wait till 4.0 to get it back 💀
@@gyrozeppeli3591 you really roast him he will stop playing +game+ and making videos after that comment of course, How dare he don't worship faruzan and say that she is the best 🤓
Honestly, at this point Mihoyo needs to update Paimon's bargins to include all four stars so we can at least buy constellations for characters we want. Not to mention it'd just be generally good since it's been over 2 years and that shop has not changed at all
@@dragonflymarcus I expect that as well, since from a business perspective it could be seen as completely devaluing 4 star rate ups, and I also expect them to add characters slowly, like how the strongbox has only added artifacts up to 1.2 so far. Still I think it would be good for everyone if they did that, and if they must keep rotation at least lower it to 2 or 3 months rather than how it is now with characters only appearing once every 6 months (RIP to anyone wanting Amber, Kaeya and/or Lisa constellations)
I don’t think Faruzan’s issue is because she’s an elemental exclusive buffer but more just because her kit overall just feels poorly designed and should’ve gone through a few more rounds of revisions.
@@Zatweeb right like i've been keeping up with her since the 3.3 beta started and i've been reading through her kit since then, and it took me until, like, day 2 of the 3.3 patch to realise her ca does nothing. i kinda just assumed that at least some of her buffs come from it. it's such a weird skill, like its only use is to generate 2 particles that take so long to spawn she won't even be the one to catch them
Disagree, her beta design was top notch and hoyoverse nerfed her down to the ground because it was too much for a 4 stars AT C0, and they want money grab from players to have her c6 (of course). It IS the choice hoyoverse made, good for them but not good for us players
@@m_milos her charged shots decrease enemies anemo resistance tho for 4 sec, which is not even great at c0 but at c6, it is target directly to enemies when she off field and her burst active AND not tied to her triangle path
Gorou at C0 is good, at C4 he gets better and at C6 you can even use him with Ningguang due to how his C6 is a copy paste of Sara and Faruzan's but with Geo. Faruzan is useable at C0 but even I think I'll need constellations to actually use half of her potential. Sara... please send buffs... we know she's not Zhongli (same for Thoma whose shielding is honestly pathetic and Xinyan who is Xinyan), but for the love of archons make certain characters work the way they're supposed to WITHOUT constellations.
My Gorou and Sara have stayed at lvl 20 since they’ve been stuck at C0 or C1 for the longest time. For the investment, I haven’t seen the point. Sara is clunky if you don’t get the C6 benefit, and Gorou seems pointless without a Geo DD (I haven’t gotten Itto).
People with C4 Jean just know that they don't need Faruzan (even though her C6 gives crit dmg) because Jean already heals and her C4 decreases anemo resistance (I wish I could say how good that is, but I got a C5 Diluc instead💀)
The fact that (a) you need Faruzan to make Wanderer top tier and (b) you need to spend 300 fates to get a useful variant of Faruzan (200 if you're lucky) may be a business decision to make people spend money, but in the long run it is detrimental to the game
on more than 100 pulls i got C1 wanderer but no Faruzan, it's crazy that you could'nt be able to secure at least one copy even after 10*10 pulls ,they should do something about this
Through all the four stars I've gotten from getting my Wanderer, I have gotten C4 Yanfei, C2 Gorou, a ton of four star weapons, and a *singular* (C0) Faruzan Yeah, that wasn't fun and I was at the very least hoping for C2 Faruzan-
@@hunnqy3102 I had +100 wishes for Layla (and wanderer lmao), I lost her to C5 Heizou, an off banner ningguang I already had at C6 and an early Childe I didn't want... Sometimes it feels like new four stars have less chance from appearing than the rest... Why is it even possible to get off banner characters on a banner they ain't featured? wth.
it's sooooo frustrating for me because i want to play wanderer, I got him and I'm super happy about this, but now I need Faruzan! I swear I think my game is glitched because for the past 60 rolls (standard+event banner) the only four star I have gotten is Yanfei. I need Faruzan, not Yanfei. I've gotten about 7 Yanfeis from this banner and it is the most frustrating thing ever.
Wish they were more open to buffing characters again. Characters like Sara, thoma and xinyan really need a buff, even just a slight change to make them feel smoother/more rewarding to play
I wish XinYan doesnt have split scaling and more dynamic gameplay that should encourage her to do normal physic attack Like, what if her E give her empowered normal attack scaling on Def and have a certain amount of trigger quota, like 5 or 6 normal attack, and her Q just deal more phys dmg and reset her E cooldown, that would be a fun and simple kit that could literally solve her problems while still keeping her old playstyle The point of many 4* is Hoyo give less ideas to make the characters gameplay look fun or dynamic (because no one gonna buy the 5* if the 4* look cooler) but that just really make 4* very under appreciated
@@wakawakawakawaka8804 the truth about Thoma is that you need to give him EM While on sand you can give him ER and that would work trust me him faruzan and Xingqiu he's soo broken with them
@@D0kkuri Yeah, I've had Sara at c0 for a year now and despite electro being my favorite element, I haven't even bothered levelling her. Just have to hope to get her twice off banner some day...
@@SaintDragon666 well honeslty content creators , no hste towards this guy, say stuff just to be said, some notable are Vars Sekapoco and i guess this guy, like saying sara at c0 is better than c0 faruzan when stuff like fischl exist especially for dendro is just XDD im dying of cringe
What I love about Gorou is that he just drops his E, then Burst then switch. Compared to Sara and Faruzan where you have to aim to get some energy / buffing. And sometimes I keep getting knocked back from Sara's buff which is super annoying
He's literally the mvp of element-specific buffers. Perfectly useable at C0, C4 turns him into a decent healer that Geo as an element lacks outside of Noelle, and C6 makes Itto, Gorou, Albedo and Ningguang into monsters. Plus nobody buffs def like him
@@ellenhunter5531 that is why i prefer geo. No need to worry about the timing of elem. reactions. Gorou doesnt need his CA for his buff to work. Just go unga bunga with Itto all the way, and I can just give Gorou Favo Bow for Itto's burst to be refilled again. I never had fun to do one shot kills unless necessary. Because of how much i like Itto, I can appreciate his badassery while in his Burst.
@@BiBiren That's half of the point as to why he's good. The point is that he is useable at c0 perfectly, does something nobody else does, is good at doing what he needs to do, has no clunky gameplay, was not nerfed into the ground for no reason, his constellations pre-c6 are improvements that he can be playable without, and is not replaceable in any situation where DEF is appreciated. Hoyo really messed up with Faruzan, especially since Anemo is an element that will deal additional damage on the side through Swirl and is weak on it's own just like Geo (this is mostly why I avoid Xiao lol, other reason is needing c4 Jean to make him do damage). Literally put someone with Noblesse 4pc and use them instead of Faruzan until she is c6, but even then I would rather use Bennett or Diona since her energy generation is non-existent.
@@ellenhunter5531 Noelle and gorou are a good synergy to make unkillable warmachines out of geo characters.... especially if said warmachine is a C6 Noelle.
C6 faru is huge bait. They could just include half of the C6 effect to base C0 and only keep the crit dmg bonus for c6 and it would already be great(like Gorou). C6 Faru is a whole another character at this point.
What I love about Gorou is how simple his kit is. He drops his E, his burst, then leaves. No charge shots required. Yes, Gorou is energy hungry as heck and he does negative damage but he's functional at C0. He's also very cheap to build: slap a f2p Fav bow with 4* exile set on him and he's good to go. Also only up his E if his support capabilities are all you care about. My Gorou is C6 with a level 13 E and level 4 burst.
gorou is awesome because he takes no resources to get going. at lvl 60 he's already 80% as good as lvl 90, he only really needs to upgrade one of his talents, his BIS artifact is a 4 star set, and his best weapon is a bow that doesn't get that much use and everyone probably has several copies anyway. and he has 100% uptime regardless of having energy or not, he works fine at c0 but most of his cons are nices-to-have quality of life upgrades... to me he is the best designed support in the entire game.
Usually gacha games have creeps like this. They probably regret the xingqiu and Bennett so they're making characters strong AT c6 instead of just strong characters overall. Best of both worlds for them but problem for players.
The thing is not about being strong at C6, but that a constellation (and one that far away) literally changes a character to which is borderline unusable before that. I think it would be fine if faruzan just gave a broken amount of numbers at C6 and was like ok tier before that, but it's not just about numbers but also about playability and satisfying/rewarding gameplay..
nah they dont bennet xiangling sucrose fischl and xingqiu are strong beacuse they are well aware what they were doing if u dint have strong characters in the beginning people would had quit long ago , hoyo arent stupid they know very well what they are doing is like how the fk can they pull such a boring ass events and then release tcg witch is fun as heck and actually is enjoyable in coop
@@vergil9981 they actually do regret Bennett bc literally every 5 star support band 4 star support was and still is compared to him and then they say nah they're not worth your wishes don't wish on it you have Bennett wich means less potential money for them
@@arwinv9005 gorou gives better dps than benny to itto even at c0 , raiden gets better dps than sara at c6 and raiden has the c2 bait , faruzan is better than benny for xiao and wanderer even at c0 so no they dont regret is fk hoyo they have crated gachas before hand , and they do have people who are fk aware of the units power lvl just to sell them besides if they can sell u a 10%-20% better bennet with their brand new unit odds are u spend money more easily
@@vergil9981 I think you are overestimating them. They were clearly surprised by how fast the game got "solved" by people. Probably solved more than they themselves ever thought. I mean, the fact that the two of the resonances were changed already tells you that they weren't aware of how their own elemental gameplay would work together. Bennet is a good example. After his C1, none of his constellations are actually supporting a "support" playstyle. They all support a Bennet DPS playstyle. Because "support" wasn't really thought about much in the early development. They saw every character as an on-field DPS first which is why the support characters are so broken and why the constellations feel so all over the place (like Fischl's self healing constellation).
What I wanna figure out is if it was ever addressed in the beta testing how bad her energy management is, and if it was, why Hoyo never bothered to fix it????
I was following 3.3 beta changes on the leaks subreddit, and iirc they nerfed her particle generation for her skill during the beta and added an ICD to her particle generation so that you can't generate additional particles easily from her C1. Her energy needs were manageable pre-nerfs, but I guess Hoyo thought she was too OP and nerfed her to oblivion
The whole idea of niche elemental supports is enabling mono element teams. For Electro, Geo, and Cryo, this is possible due to having numerous sub-DPS and on-field DPS characters who can benefit well from such supports, hence the niche is established. It's why mono Electro, mono Geo, and mono Cryo work. However, in Anemo's case, most characters are designed around being used in elemental teams (Kazuha/Sucrose/Venti), hence mono Anemo gets scuffed- and why Faruzan mostly sees use in double Anemo teams with just her and her DPS, which already makes her very replaceable. It doesn't also help that of the three Anemo DPS she supports, none of them fully synergize with her. Wanderer's passive encourages bringing non-Anemo units, thus making Faruzan a less desirable option. Heizou's first passive needs swirl and his second passive buffs EM, neither of which are utilized in mono Anemo. Xiao would be ideal if only he didn't have his own energy issues too. Aside from the more obvious large power gaps she has with her constellations and her aimed shot gameplay which people already showed dislike for ever since Sara, mono Anemo, her supposed niche, isn't just a feasible niche right now with its current cast of characters. Later in the future, if we get someone like an Anemo Fischl or Rosaria (off-field DPS who can generate particles well), Faruzan will be a more desirable option. Until then, mono Anemo will be very hard to pull off.
i couldnt agree more. the double anemo point is so accurate because while she provides powerful res shred, she could absolutely be replaced by another four star that does off field damage and get a similar value. and anemos archetype is built off of interacting with other elements, so she feels odd to place in a team frankly speaking
@@pnknwhte Exactly. She buffs only your Anemo DPS, so she can be replaced by almost any buffer/sub-DPS who can provide the same damage contribution (Yelan, Bennett) for literally less caveats. It's unlike say Gorou, who's the only one who can simultaneously buff Itto and Albedo well, thus actually establishing a niche.
While people's been testing and playing her as a niche support. I play her as main DPS on field with Sucrose as her battery/support, couple with Bennett and Zhongli and it's very fun. Her energy issue is negligible with sac frag Sucrose and fav lance Zhongli. Oh but you will need at least C1 to unlock her double charged shot, kinda like Tighnari playstyle.
like others have suggested, i really think hoyoverse needs to start adding some of the older 4 stars to the Paimon’s bargains shop!! i mean, they already do a similar thing in Honkai where they add older/outdated characters to one of the many shops where you can just grind for the currency needed to purchase them/their fragments… ik Honkai and Genshin aren’t exactly a perfect 1:1 comparison in terms of how character value changes overtime, but with the growing roster of 4 stars in genshin and no system in place to guarantee a desired 4 star on a specific banner, something needs to change
nah they wont do it. old doesnt necessarily mean outdated here. the older characters are still carrying the game. the new kits they keep putting out are shit. ppl will want to pull to get these old 4* just for a lil more quality of life cuz the game is much harder w/o them. and they know that. so no, mhy wont pass the chance to make more money.
@@rootedpen2 to be fair,the characters buyable from shop in honkai are far from weak.some of the best characters are also buyable,and not all are old/outdated
Same with Sara and Gorou. This will be the direction Hoyo was heading. They want whales to not only spend on C6 5-Stars and R5 Weapons. Hoyo also want to squeeze an extra buck by locking the characters full potential with dedicated 4-Star support that only useful at C6.
@@cardongputik2257 Gorou is very viable at C0 it's just he spikes at C6. I'd argue that Faruzan is worse then Sara cause Sara doesn't have nearly as many problems with energy due to Raiden and Electro resonance. Not to mention at least Sara CAN be used at C2 due to not needing to charge shot. Faruzan doesn't get the luxury of having another unit to fix her issues.
I think it's worth noting that Mihoyo gutted Faruzan's kit during the 3.3 beta. I didn't fully follow what they changed with her but I remember looking at the leak subreddit and noticing she got nerfed a few times during the beta.
@@trottinettesauvage no wonder mihoyo wants to stop leakers. You make a few changes in the beta, and all of sudden people are getting sad before the character is even released
@@trottinettesauvage now here's the thing... If you *didn't* know about faruzans stats through the leaks in the first place, I doubt you would be upset because (and here's the key point) you would've never known they got nerfed from better multipliers to worse ones.
Of course it is. It's the direction Hoyo wants to go and it kinda sucks. Not only they will lock 5-Stars full potential on its constellations but also try to squeeze some more on its dedicated 4-Star support and that support will be only useful at C6, which is kinda hard to get TBH. Hoyo is getting greedy and greedy as time goes by. Hope they'd get some harsh reality check in the future. We need games that would be able to compete and give Genshin a run for it's money. If ever that game comes, I'll fully support it.
Shouldnt their FULL potential be locked behind C6?? I havent pulled a 5 star thats unusable at C0... Im so confused as to why anyone would want to C6 a very expensive 5 star if its not going to make the character more powerful... My Raiden wouldnt be C2 and going for C3 next rotation had it not been worth it, thats like $100-200 per character... Lets be realistic, there needs to be a reason to pull for constellations... Hell even the great Bennett everyone is comparing every 4 star to requires his C1 to be his best
Are you dumb, of course a constellation will unlock a their full potential that's just basic game design, and Faruzan is the only case we have so far that's immediately spiked up so far on her last constellation that it's sparking up discussion again.
@@ZoField It's already a given thing that characters are getting better with constellations. My point is, Hoyo give another restrictions to that characters by adding dedicated C6 support to reach their full potential. Which is kinda painful even for whales.
@@salceds Are you dumb? Did you read and understand my post clown? Try to improve your reading comprehension coz it sucks! It's already a given thing that characters are getting better with constellations. My point is, Hoyo give another restrictions to that characters by adding dedicated C6 support to reach their full potential. Which is kinda painful even for whales.
@@salceds Faruzan is the only case? Really? How about Itto with Gorou? Raiden with Sara? Hoyo intentionally nerf Wanderer's damage coz they want people to pull for C6 Faruzan. That's what it is and it sucks.
weirdly enough i love her so much at c0 already, i understand that she has a lot of her potential locked behind constellations but her double charged arrows at c1 and her kit rly appeals to me, excited to try her out at c6 with my dps kazuha B)
I'd imagine New Players pulling for scaramouche will have to deal with two niche 4 star characters having a rate up on the banner They'll have a harder time in team building compared to players who were able to accumulate cons for top 4 stars like Bennett Xingqiu Fischl back when the 4 star pool was small
The banner with all characters really makes it hard to gain constellation as well for characters you actually want. They should maybe split up the permanent banner into the different nations or something to make it easier to actually build constellations
I tried Genshin on a new account after a few months break because I just wasnt having fun anymore, and yet saw so much potential... Gone was the safety of high constellation 4 stars, especially some of the earliest ones (Bennet; Xiangling, Xinqiu), along with my expansive five stars, but I had a chance to rebuild and to gain and to experience the game in a whole new light!! Except. The game is so so so hard to play when a multitude of characters are locked behind new regions. I got a characters I wanted to play, over and over and over again, but I was forced to build other ones until I progressed... And I progressed extremely slowly. Why? Because with this new account, I wanted to pay more attention to all of the story and lore I had missed, forgotten, or ignored the first time around☹ It became too annoying so I became discouraged and played on and off for a month or two... Luckily, Ei came in clutch just about when I had gotten into Inazuma, and has been making the experience enjoyable again😁
Honestly, I'm straight up not building her until I get C6 (which could be... In a year. Or two.) I have other buffers for my Wanderer/Xiao/Heizou and other stuff to spend my resin on than a character that will only reach playable potential after c6
Same. Xiao and Heizou do quite well without her. I use Bennett and/or TDS Sucrose with Xiao and he destroys pretty much anything I send him up against. Heizou is just plain fun, I have Xingqiu with him for swirls. I haven't been able to farm everything for Wanderer yet, but his trial run was fine without Faruzan.
The state of 4 star characters in Genshin is honestly laughable at this point! They put so much effort into the designs of the characters and then butcher their kits or just make them heavily constellation dependant. Just like Kujou Sara, Faruzan is pretty much dysfunctional at C0 and Mihoyo absolutely knows this...
Gorou i think was specific buffers done right, everything else always seemed to have something off about them. C0 kuki has that long time to apply buff problem,c0 shenhe has very little buff uptime, c0 faruzan has some energy problems and has a poor buff uptime for xiao users. Her burst also has a weird triangle movement which just makes it so her buff during her ult is inconsistent.
he was done right, but he honestly isn't the best fit for his "suportees". he's mostly an additive buffer, and two of the three characters that benefit the most from his buffs have massive base stats already. he's super good, but compared to what bennet is to units with low attack, gorou doesn't make that much of a difference for noelle and itto. i mean, it's nice that he give likes 800 atk to noelle with a lvl 13 burst, but 1300 when she already had 3500 before he stepped in isn't that large of an increase. good thing there's also a 15% geo bonus damage and his c6, otherwise he'd be kinda meh. good only because there aren't other options. what geo really needs is a multiplicative buffer, like kazuha, or a mona that lasts longer. long story short: Gorou gives geo +30% damage because they already have a ton of defense of their own. Bennet almost doubles non-geo damage in some cases because they have comparatively low atk and they can still offset the extra to other multiplicative stats to balance better. also geo needs one more def-scaling utility unit, preferably from another element so they can still crystalize. would be nice if yelan scaled from def. perfect, in fact.
the biggest issue i have involving faru is that she's the 1st playable character ive seen who has no hangout quest, no events featuring her, & no role in the main story. every other character in the game has at least 1 of those things
The crazy thing is there are people in the community are defending Faruzan's design and saying her energy management is not that bad. Dude, Garo literally just uses his skill and he buffs Geo for as long as the field last. Shenhe presses E and her buff last 12 seconds or set number of hits. Sara presses E, lands a charge shot and provides 6 second buff. Faruzan only half functions at CO.
Some say like bennett and xingqiu also had high energy cost. But i didn't feel like it at all with my bennett. I just need a 2pc Scholar set and Skyrider Sword with an EM Sands. I run my bennett with 186 ER and i always had my burst ready before it's cooldown is refreshed.
@@usmanya5110 Bennett's burst cost 60 energy. His skill generates 2 particles on a 5 sec CD on press and he has a passive that reduces the CD by 20%. No one in their right mind would say Bennett has a high energy cost. People use him to battery other units. I can maybe see someone say Xingqui has a high energy cost because his Burst cost 80. But his skill generates 4 to 5 particles on hit and most use Sacrificial Sword. Hell, he can even battery other units while still using his burst off cool down.
The "toxic positivity" crowd. That's not good tbh, I've seen the same shit from world of tanks crowds before. So many are happy with bad design and reject the push for change despite the change actually benefit them.
I think it's unfortunate that Faruzan is so investment-hungry when she shares the space with Gorou. They're both characters specifically designed to improve the viability of elements that don't benefit from reactions, but Gorou needs incredibly little investment because most of his value is based on his skill talent level, so he doesn't need good artifacts or weapons at all.
1 simple change that would make this not a problem is to make 3rd slot for 4 stars in shop and put there supports like goru sara farazon so you can guarantee like 2 constelations per year
I wouldn't have any problem with 4* characters potential locked behind C6, if we could get them with a finite amount of resources, the fact that you can spend thousands of rolls and not get a single copy of a character is the worst part of Genshin's gacha system.
I kinda disagree with she is the only one who completely becomes a different characters with C6... Noelle becomes DPS after C6, Yelan C6 made her into a dps monster instead of just a better Xing Qiu.
2:20 I disagree. Her scaling from base atk is probably one of the only few POSTIVE things going for her. I mean, base atk is only increased via levels and the base atk of your weapon - so atk stats on artifacts don't matter whatsoever and you can purely focus on ER as main stats and substats for every single artifact piece you have. Sure, if you could, you would want the highest base atk weapon which may not have ER as a main stat - and maybe you can run sac bow over fav bow to trade some ER for base atk - but if she scaled from almost anything else then THAT would be getting in the way of building ER on her. Also, I'mma say it. This vid may not be Faruzan hate but this comment is. For what reason did they have to make her energy requirements so high? And from what I know, her constellations don't help besides the final one! What? If they don't want "anxiety" inducing content then why not make Faruzan easily accessible so people can at least play that character! I don't appreciate the intent or philosophy behind Faruzan's kit and constellations at all.
ikr, i mean 80 cost burst is reasonable to “lock her power” as a 4 stars but energy generation got nerfed so bad so sell her c6 is ridiculous, from non existence energy to battery herself AND on fielder
I'm so annoyed at these anxiety jokes. The main reason for the comment is that they focus on their Chinese audience first. Their main Chinese targeted audience work long hours in the day with only a few hours of freetime (barely). That's why they keep the casual style events and such and wont increase the resin cap etc that would help give the game massive time commitments. Everything else is just done to not repeat the mistake of making the launch characters busted.
imo the only real well designed niche 4 star like this was yun jin. even though she isnt an element specific buffer, she's pretty much just as niche, only supporting yoimiya and ayato really well and i guess she could work pretty well with wanderer too? gorou may come close, i dont have him so i never got to try him out, but yun jin is extremely good in my experience running yoimiya teams. honestly better than my c6 bennett at same investment, though usually i opt to run both
i do think yun jin is a perfect way of designing niche characters, and i also think gorou came p close as well all things considered, but yes, yun jin great
Afraid to ask, but does Ayato Vape Bennet's circle, vape himself (because I assume that occassional physical damage numbers during his E would change) or outright spits fire? :) Also with Yun Jin, please, kind of want to try her with Ayato, but she's not C6 and requires and entirely new set of Artifacts, so stalling fully comitting to build her
@@FlamesAndShadows yun jin still works really well at c0, i have her c2 personally but that was recent. and i pay her with yoimiya so im not the person to ask about ayato
@@inphrognito1018 Ah, ok. Really like Yoimiya, but her banner always pops up right before a character I really want. Is she as good for Floor 12 buffed Abyss Thunder Manifestations and Ruin Serpent Bosses as they claim?
If you give a company Billions in revenue, they will definitely continue to do things the same way or slightly worse because they have no incentive to change.
I feel like using C0 Sara as a 'dedicated Electro' support doesn't really apply since she only gets her dedicated Electro support utility at c6. She's kinda like Bennett in that they're both just general supports and only become specific elemental supports at c6
All a tactic to squeeze money out of a hyped 5 star character. They know the numbers and are maximizing the hype around this and know 4 stars can be a substantial increase in revenue for there higher paying audience, as there are no guarantees you can get the needed cons for there kit especially for these dedicated supports. I like to watch the pull videos just to see what the true cost is and it is clear that a lot of the time its more likely the rolls will not go your way.
The major difference of Faruzan to Sara, Gorou and Shenhe is her buffing capability is only available at Burst. Sara, Gorou and Shenhe provides her buffing ability in their skill while also providing enough energy for their supposed DPS. Meanwhile, Faruzan's skill is technically useless and not enough energy to sustain herself. If Hoyoverse just designed her kit where she buff using skill, and shred using Burst (like Shenhe), this problem will be avoided. It wouldn't make her completely insane in C6, but atleast it would make her completely viable at C0.
I like her most with Heizou cuz he doesnt need a battery, generates energy and can switch very often. I don´t think is a problem for her to need Constelations, i think on C2 she becomes manageble if can arrow blast 2 times, sadly already got Yanfei and Gorou C6 so is not a good deal atm for me to pull more on this banner. Hopping i dont have to wait too long for her next banner.
The problem with double arrow is that it has particle icd, meaning you cant shoot two and get 4 particles, you have to wait for the cooldown to reset basically if you want it to be consistent to get the particles, which Means it's only really useful for if you miss the first shot and got no particles
You don’t think Faruzan needs constellations, but she becomes manageable when she gets C2… so, is she unmanageable at C0? but you say she doesn’t need constellations? Make a decision dude! Is she fine at C0 or not?!
@@gabrielquintero2137 I said "i think" on that coment cuz i didnt have her c2 atm. I do now and she is... 280% ER and no energy issues, 18 sec buff (32% Anemo dmg+ 30%- anemo res+ dmg from base atack + 20% from nobles...). 2 Particles + Fav bow white particles are enough. The only diference betwen c0 and c2 is the 6 sec extra buff time, make her more compatible with Xiao, C0 is just fine for Heizou tho I don´t have issues with 4 stars needing some constelations to become more efective.
I hope, in compensation, she appears in banners that are not Wanderer’s. Maybe Xiao’s in the upcoming Rite??? Because I’m so tired of not getting Gorou because I’m unwilling to spend on Itto or not getting Kujou Sara because I never have any primogems saved when Raiden rolls round.
I know it's not the topic of the video, but I honestly think bows are just a horrendous weapon type. I promise it's related. Think about it: there are only 3 competitive bow characters that actually use their bows: Ganyu, Yoimiya, and Tighnari. Even Yoimiya it's arguable, because i could even see someone with her exact same kit using a catalyst. Diona is useful for her shield and healing, fischl is an applicator with her skill, venti is defined by his black hole burst, and childe literally THROWS HIS BOW AWAY and becomes immeasurably better. None of them utilize their weapon to get their value, instead focusing on skills and bursts which can be tacked onto any weapon type. So this basically leaves bow with two things that make it unique: physical ranged attacks (that basically no one uses) and the charged shot. But who actually utilizes the charged shot? Well, as mentioned before, Tighnari and Ganyu. Ganyu's numbers are just ridiculous and a main weakness of charge shot: the single target nature. Tighnari doesnt have the numbers Ganyu has, but he circumvents another weakness by having a reduction to the charge time in his base kit. The only two characters who utilize the charge shot regularly both have to modify it in some way to make it a viable playstyle. Back to the elemental buffers. Gorou is usable at c0, but he gets much better at c6. People avoid using sara at c0, instead recommending c2. Everyone knows Faruzan is borderline unusable until c6. Well, why is that? Back to bows: both Sara and Faruzan have a skill to charged shot playstyle while Gorou does not. Both Sara's c2 and Faruzan's c6 make that charge shot unnecessary by wrapping their desired effects into a skill: Sara's skill applies the buff, Faruzan's burst regenerates her energy. Both have entirely different issues that are caused by charge shot. Bow is just made horrendously worse than every other weapon type because the thing that makes it unique. Faruzan has horrible energy problems because her way of regenerating energy is slow and annoying to use, Hoyo literally NERFED her by giving her a bow. If it was literally any other weapon type (besides maybe claymore), skill to charged attack would not be a problem.
I agree with the overall analysis, but I'm asking for clarification and rebuttal terms. Isn't the main problem with so few bow focused bow users is because the rest are all supports? Because Fischl dropping Oz and your other examples, how is that any different from other weapons with support catagories? Only the onfielders "use" their weapons, the rest just use whatever animation that makes sense. Like what makes these abilities any worse because they're bows? Like the Kaeya/dendro traveler cone splash skill. They're swinging their swords, but you could do the same type of ability with a bow user shooting a spread shot. Or the extended hand, for magically aiming summonable skills, could be done the same with a bow user charging a differently glowy shot. It's just a change in animation. How is that any different aside from weapon availability and raw numbers? Similarly, the two cryo shielders. Layla literally just summons a shield out of nowhere, and even summons her mobile ult. She doesn't use her sword. Meanwhile, even if she tosses her thematic drink shaker for her ult, Diona at least shoots her kitty paw projectiles from her bow to hit enemies. So by those standards Diona is more of a bow user while Layla is barely a sword user, she might as well be a catalyst (which we still need). So what problem mechanically makes the bow users so much worse compared to supports in general? Because for the most part it's just an on field carry problem.
I wouldn't consider a 'dedicated elemental support' who doesn't even give any element specific buffs before the c6 functional, especially when she's outdone in every single metric by a Tales of the Dragonslayers Lisa
Something that makes me personally really sad is that I got c6 Gorou and c5 Yanfei (I didn’t even had c0 of either of them before this banner), but only c2 Faruzan. Like is her rate lower than that of the other characters or what?
ngl mihoyo might have some sort of way to track what you want because that happens so often it can't be a coincidence. maybe new characters get a lower rate than repeats or something. i don't trust ANY rng in this game to be truly random. it's all stacked/rigged one way or the other. it's all pseudo rng.
C0 faruzan Imo yes kind of a problem. She offers a role that isn't there yet which is good. But the thing is, her supporting capabilities to buff the hypercarry are just theoretically the same result as just replacing her with sub dps. Tl;dr Wanderer + faruzan c0 equals to wanderer + sub dps Which equates to a materias/resin loss for little to none increase
@@Yiyithaa this is indeed the problem. The reward over the investment is so minimum to justify running her. Positive side = balancing team of genshin did a great job to tone down powercrept Negative side = will makes u always ask urself why even build her if the result are the same with other units that i have built before? Waste of resources and time
@@Galariel Part of the problem too imo is the fact that mono Anemo isn't as feasible as say, mono Electro for Sara or mono Geo for Gorou. You can run multiple damage dealing characters for the latter two (Yae-Raiden and Albedo-Itto), which makes building them worth as a niche team. But in Faruzan's case, there are hardly any Anemo sub-DPS for her to also support. I think if we got an Anemo sub-DPS who can fit in Xiao/Heizou/Wanderer teams, then Faruzan-centric mono Anemo teams might be more worth building.
imo genshins balancing team seems rly scared of powercreep which is fair since it isnt exactly a good thing but of all the games ive played genshin is the first one ive seen where its reverse powercreep in that older (4*) units are leagues better compared to newer ones (c0 benny, xiangling, xingqiu and sucrose are serviceable whereas faruzan here for example is so constellation dependant, its either that or that character’s kit’s true potential is locked behind future updates like kuki and thoma) honestly its a shame since if they made these character’s kits a bit better, they’d see more play and viability and bennett and co wouldnt be revered as much
I think that's being dramatic because they're limiting how much time you need to spend on her, but honestly she really does wanna use her charge shot after he E cast so she gets to catch Favonius particles and get two more Anemo particles afterwards.
I have no problem with exclusive elemental supports since it allows me to explore more teams. I mostly main geo so I have a Gorou and even my Gorou which buffs significantly for my Itto and Albedo isn't even that well invested. Fav and 4pc exile with ER sands is enough to sustain him. His kit is also very easy to use and understand. However for Faruzan she isn't technically hard to use but her kit is somewhere mismatched. Like what does her E do it doesn't even give buffs or debuff, the cc isn't very strong and it generates little particles, I also find it weird that you have to CA after casting her E why not just make her cast E and swap her out. She doesn't work as sub DPS unless you invest greatly on her and for a support she's not doing too great since she has no means to generate particles. She's really hard to use at C0 rotation wise unless you have 3 anemo. The only good thing for me about her is that she scales off base attack so you can give her high base weapon and just focus on ER on the artifacts. Honestly speaking if hoyo do plan to make niche 4* character support like Faruzan, Sara and Gorou I wish they would just design them as straight forward as Gorou who is by far the most cohesive niche 4* support. I thought Sara is bad at C0 as an electro support but low key I'm not a huge fan of Faruzan currently.
Hello fellow geo enjoyer!!! The only reason I level Gorou to 90 because I want to get some more healing out of him. Other than that, he's so cheap it's funny.
Honestly if Faruzan’s skill was able to also shred Anemo res or just generate more energy then she wouldn’t be as problematic, I think the fact that she’s also a support is what’s affects her as well because her elemental skill actually has a decently short CD, but there’s no need for her to be on the field for that long
i wish it was easier to get 4star cons, gorou and sara have so much insane utility locked behind c6, and theyre only ever on banners of the 5 star theyre made for...which is annoying bc i dont want cons for the 5stars
For me it was just disappointing as a Xiao main not planning to pull for Scaramouche anyway, because it makes it much more difficult for the constellations. Especially as Xiao is notoriously difficult energy wise, and therefore I'd have to sacrifice things like pyro res, Zhongli, or Benny for Sucrose, things that dramatically increase his damage. I use Sucrose now but I don't think it's necessarily worth the benny buff or the Zhongli comfort of play.
and I'm happy to finally have an Anemo character and not have to go to mondstadt with the traveler just to resonate with Anemo and go back to where I was before the trip
Honestly, Faruzan is a big reason I decided to skip Wanderer. It honestly feels like he was designed to push primo sales based on his popularity by tacking on a character like Faruzan that willhit people with the FOMO feeling they need C6 to make Wanderer good. I really don't like that. No character, especially a 4* support, should need constellations to feel usable.
i use her as my main dps because she's the only bow user i have that i enjoy maining, and because i have her c1, it feels like constant E skill uses which i find really fun using shogun for a sort of taser build! i recommend trying her dps if you like bow characters ^^
I agree with the point you made with the business outlook. It’s well known that scara fans have been saving for him for awhile so one of the only ways they’d make more (knowing that ppl have a lot of wishes saved. Wishes saved = less top-ups being bought) money is to lock Faruzan’s “fixes” behind her cons. Especially since we know that people were stoked to finally have an anemo support for a while. It kinda sucks bc even if you did save up for just his weapon and a single copy of him guaranteed, you aren’t guaranteed c6 faruzan anyway. 😭 so then you’d feel Like you’d have to pay money to keep pulling and hopefully get her so your scara could be the best he could be. And it’s even worse if you wanted her for someone else and didn’t want scara at all.
Yeeeeah… locking major aspects/usability behind constellations is garbage. If this is the direction Genshin continues to go then there’s little point in pulling for characters unless you’re a whale
Me, who doesn't read character talent descriptions, after this video: SHE'S A BUFFER?! I guess it's nifty that I put her in a team with Heizou, but since she's C0 I can't do much with that information-
oh this isn't about bow characters.. or about characters tied to a specific characters banner. This constellation issue is really with the Sumeru 4 stars, which is really weird as they aren't in the star glitter shop, which is really compounding this issue.. I'd just like one more copy of dori please.
well, mika is around the corner and...if he is a niche physical buffer, seems like he will add to the c6 benefit rooster too. although i wonder if hoyoverse still think about physical.
I mean, the only disadvantage here is that she isn’t usable at less constellations but since she is a 4 star, you’re bound to get her eventually c6 or more. I’m okay with that instead of eventually getting useless 4 stars even at c6. 🤷♂️
Sara isn’t viable at all under C6. She only provides an attack buff for only 6 secondes. Faruzan at C0 is less strong than C0 Gorou but it does et mean that she is not viable at this point. Give her a Fav now, an ER sand ans with some ER sub stats procs in other artifacts and you will easily have more than 250% ER on her. That might be enough most the time. Her C2 and C4 make her easier to play and her C6 is broken. The real problem is to not have any pity system for 4* that are on banner. To lock some 4* characters under constellations is a thing but to not be sure to get any Faruzan (or any 4* item) even if you spend hundreds of € or $ is a real issue that miHoYo should think about. There is more and more 4* characters in Genshin and to have them on banner will become more rare so we need a new system for 4* pulls.
Faruzan is a mess. Too high Energy requirement and only worth the investment at c6. I only have c1 after 80-90 pulls on Wanderer so go figure. I'll have to use other supports.
Except Faruzan doesn't need attack stat, because her A4 buff is 0 to none. And since she has to battery Xiao, her best weapon in slot is Favonius, and it is actually good, because not so many bow supports use it: Gorou, who can also use Sacrificial, Diona who can run Sac or Curved, that's all. But yeah, you need very much ER for her at c0 and even c1
This is just another money grab. I got a c1 wanderer before i got c0 faruzan who i wanted more 🤦🏼♀️ ill just have to wait for her next banner cause i already spent all my gems 😥
I honestly don't like your input onto trying to comfort us Mihoyo won't dig into this type of bad 4* at C0 just bc faruzan is niche. Ok faruzan is anemo niche but then what? Should we set our expectations the same for other elements possibly future niche supports? 4* are mostly only supports anyways (not counting the OG) so they are going to suffer (and they already are) to being more and more lack luster.. They tested the water with sara and gorou, and I think they are just tryna pushing the limits of "how bad can we make our future characters at C0 before our players start getting really pissed off" just to force pulling for constellations if we want comfort. Even 5* are getting into those treatment, when constellations now "solves problems" instead of giving silly enhancements. I get they dont wanna go into powercreep as long as they can since we are far away from the end of the game but how they are designing new characters' base kit now is still concerning. Ig it's good for long time players that dont need to feel forced pulling new characters to be relevant into that already very small meta-part of the game but honestly it also feels bad pulling for a character that end up not being useful at all... like I love candace i love most sumeru 4* even but they just feel so bad to play I mean it's not rewarding and I rather just let them be benched like idk... it's not really enjoyable?? I just want character that are satisfying to play without having to to sell a kidney lmao
I honestly don't even care about numbers just don't want to let mihoyo create new design that are getting less playable unless you get all their const. I'm honestly scared of the fate for characters like baizhu lyney lynette iansan... very anticipated since day 1 but what will they do to them on release??
Is faruzan a problem absolutely yes as someone who's been waiting for a dedicated anemo support since xiao's release her being absolutely garbage until c6 is aggravating af and literally wouldn't fly in any game that isn't a gacha game, if it were any other game she would have already been hot fixed to reduce her burst cost AND increase her partical generation because she can't battery herself or her team mates even with a fav bow, imo faruzan at c0 is competing for the worst designed character in genshin, it really shows that hoyoverse's doesn't care about their players just their wallets, to xaio mains hoyoverse has literally said we know you've waited basically 2 years for this character now give us all your money xaio mains said ok how much and hoyoverse was like idk how long is a piece of string she's a 4* no pity and you can't use her until c6 so yeah that much
as long they didnt update the star glittershop with new character any *4 support need cons will be bad for me. Look here, i have rosaria when she first time release at C0, now i still have C0 Rosaria, its like.... 2 years man and didnt get another Rosaria. my kaeya? C4 thats why i more preffer Kaeya than Rosaria.
Got back into genshin after a long break, trialed all the new characters, loved wanderer hated faruzan, decided to pull on the banner directly after and got faruzan 🥴 I use her very very rarely and exclusively ranged cryo puzzles etc... She's not a character I can use confidently right now, and I don't have the time or resources to get her to c6
Why would she run viridescent when the characters you run her with don't prioritize swirl damage? I.e. Xiao & Wanderer. The rest of her buffs like anemo shred and anemo dmg increase also don't matter for swirl. It's better to just go 2 pc emblem + ER.
The bigger problem for hoyo is they are running out of character roles to fill. All elements now have a main dps, sub dps, and buff/support characters that are reasonably functional. Where do they go from here? For the most part all they can now provide is side grades to the existing rosters. After players have 3-4 team comps what is the incentive to pull on side grades..... sure some might be a better fit to fill a specific role but once that is filled then what? They can revamp geo reactions I guess or add a new mechanic or stat..... idk..... things will probably stagnate and be over saturated if they keep this model up...
I usually heavily get 2 out of 3 featured banner characters, if its one of the unlucky ones by the time my f2p ass gets the workable constellations, new better (or easier to use) teams will be composed, and probably a 5 star version would roll out
Another disclaimer just to be safe: this is not a Faruzan hate video. Her issues are workable, but in the game’s hardest content, she is very very difficult to work with at low constellations without sacrificing a huge chunk of her value.
I swear if you don't have her c6
And you just work with something like c0
You need more than 320 er
To barely get your Burst back if not
You gonna wait till 4.0 to get it back 💀
@Amine Houzane Noo faruzan is already down stop attacking her like that!
Stop playing game lol
@@gyrozeppeli3591 you really roast him he will stop playing +game+ and making videos after that comment of course,
How dare he don't worship faruzan and say that she is the best
🤓
Is her own personal DPS really that much of her value? In a Wanderer hypercarry team, seems like it wouldn't matter that much.
Honestly, at this point Mihoyo needs to update Paimon's bargins to include all four stars so we can at least buy constellations for characters we want. Not to mention it'd just be generally good since it's been over 2 years and that shop has not changed at all
I wish the damn battle pass would change, especially getting new weapons
Yes! They don't even have to remove the previous ones, just add new ones.
yeah they should put all the four stars in shop
They honestly might end up doing this at some point, but I feel like we’ll be limited to purchasing 1 copy per month or something along those lines
@@dragonflymarcus I expect that as well, since from a business perspective it could be seen as completely devaluing 4 star rate ups, and I also expect them to add characters slowly, like how the strongbox has only added artifacts up to 1.2 so far.
Still I think it would be good for everyone if they did that, and if they must keep rotation at least lower it to 2 or 3 months rather than how it is now with characters only appearing once every 6 months (RIP to anyone wanting Amber, Kaeya and/or Lisa constellations)
2:48 Heizou looks a lot like Wanderer, it's uncanny.
Shhh🤫 he's undercover right now
Lol
The third one might be heizou but I’m not sure
Lol
wait you didnt know that heizou is also a puppet and can change his appearance-
okay guess I am the only one then lol
I don’t think Faruzan’s issue is because she’s an elemental exclusive buffer but more just because her kit overall just feels poorly designed and should’ve gone through a few more rounds of revisions.
Kinda weird how casting her ability just does aoe and gives the stack, was expecting that to apply her buffs/debuffs or something as well
@@Zatweeb right like i've been keeping up with her since the 3.3 beta started and i've been reading through her kit since then, and it took me until, like, day 2 of the 3.3 patch to realise her ca does nothing. i kinda just assumed that at least some of her buffs come from it.
it's such a weird skill, like its only use is to generate 2 particles that take so long to spawn she won't even be the one to catch them
Disagree, her beta design was top notch and hoyoverse nerfed her down to the ground because it was too much for a 4 stars AT C0, and they want money grab from players to have her c6 (of course). It IS the choice hoyoverse made, good for them but not good for us players
@@m_milos her charged shots decrease enemies anemo resistance tho for 4 sec, which is not even great at c0 but at c6, it is target directly to enemies when she off field and her burst active AND not tied to her triangle path
She got nerfed multiple times during beta
Holy shit i realised that shenhe does resemble Hare!
Gorou at C0 is good, at C4 he gets better and at C6 you can even use him with Ningguang due to how his C6 is a copy paste of Sara and Faruzan's but with Geo. Faruzan is useable at C0 but even I think I'll need constellations to actually use half of her potential. Sara... please send buffs... we know she's not Zhongli (same for Thoma whose shielding is honestly pathetic and Xinyan who is Xinyan), but for the love of archons make certain characters work the way they're supposed to WITHOUT constellations.
My Gorou and Sara have stayed at lvl 20 since they’ve been stuck at C0 or C1 for the longest time. For the investment, I haven’t seen the point. Sara is clunky if you don’t get the C6 benefit, and Gorou seems pointless without a Geo DD (I haven’t gotten Itto).
It's not bad design it's been years since I've been saving for Signora so she better have a good support as well that I can burn my primos onto
Sorry to burst your bubble but signora is never going to be playable-.
People with C4 Jean just know that they don't need Faruzan (even though her C6 gives crit dmg) because Jean already heals and her C4 decreases anemo resistance (I wish I could say how good that is, but I got a C5 Diluc instead💀)
The fact that (a) you need Faruzan to make Wanderer top tier and (b) you need to spend 300 fates to get a useful variant of Faruzan (200 if you're lucky) may be a business decision to make people spend money, but in the long run it is detrimental to the game
on more than 100 pulls i got C1 wanderer but no Faruzan, it's crazy that you could'nt be able to secure at least one copy even after 10*10 pulls ,they should do something about this
It's legitimately harder to get a 4star you want than a 5* i couldn't get sara for more than a year. I still don't have sara.
Through all the four stars I've gotten from getting my Wanderer, I have gotten C4 Yanfei, C2 Gorou, a ton of four star weapons, and a *singular* (C0) Faruzan
Yeah, that wasn't fun and I was at the very least hoping for C2 Faruzan-
@@hunnqy3102 I had +100 wishes for Layla (and wanderer lmao), I lost her to C5 Heizou, an off banner ningguang I already had at C6 and an early Childe I didn't want... Sometimes it feels like new four stars have less chance from appearing than the rest...
Why is it even possible to get off banner characters on a banner they ain't featured? wth.
it's sooooo frustrating for me because i want to play wanderer, I got him and I'm super happy about this, but now I need Faruzan! I swear I think my game is glitched because for the past 60 rolls (standard+event banner) the only four star I have gotten is Yanfei. I need Faruzan, not Yanfei. I've gotten about 7 Yanfeis from this banner and it is the most frustrating thing ever.
Wish they were more open to buffing characters again. Characters like Sara, thoma and xinyan really need a buff, even just a slight change to make them feel smoother/more rewarding to play
I wish XinYan doesnt have split scaling and more dynamic gameplay that should encourage her to do normal physic attack
Like, what if her E give her empowered normal attack scaling on Def and have a certain amount of trigger quota, like 5 or 6 normal attack, and her Q just deal more phys dmg and reset her E cooldown, that would be a fun and simple kit that could literally solve her problems while still keeping her old playstyle
The point of many 4* is Hoyo give less ideas to make the characters gameplay look fun or dynamic (because no one gonna buy the 5* if the 4* look cooler) but that just really make 4* very under appreciated
Thoma is literally the best burgeon pyro unit right now. He is very rewarding with dendro.
@@XLbuffLive tbh thoma needs hp% ascension stat or er%. Why they gave him atk% we will never know.
Is Zhongli still the only Character who was reworked/buffed?
@@wakawakawakawaka8804 the truth about Thoma is that you need to give him EM
While on sand you can give him ER and that would work trust me him faruzan and Xingqiu he's soo broken with them
You know it's bad when a Support has problems when they ends up being harder to work with than Sara of all Units
haven't finish the video but when was sara ever decent at c0. I feel like faruzan is the one that's decent at c0.
Not really, Faruzan is playable in her niche at c0. Sara is unplayable before c2 and then she's still not worth using till some rare cases at c6.
@@D0kkuri Exactly thats why I'm so confused about the comment at the beginning of the video.
@@D0kkuri Yeah, I've had Sara at c0 for a year now and despite electro being my favorite element, I haven't even bothered levelling her. Just have to hope to get her twice off banner some day...
@@SaintDragon666 well honeslty content creators , no hste towards this guy, say stuff just to be said, some notable are Vars Sekapoco and i guess this guy, like saying sara at c0 is better than c0 faruzan when stuff like fischl exist especially for dendro is just XDD im dying of cringe
If only she is as good as her theme song. Mihoyo needs to spare some resources to the balance team or the team that design her kit.
This is so real, Dori and Faruzan might've been a disappointment but their theme songs slap
What I love about Gorou is that he just drops his E, then Burst then switch.
Compared to Sara and Faruzan where you have to aim to get some energy / buffing. And sometimes I keep getting knocked back from Sara's buff which is super annoying
sara's c2 allows her to give the buff just by pressing e, she's almost unplayable without the c2
He's literally the mvp of element-specific buffers. Perfectly useable at C0, C4 turns him into a decent healer that Geo as an element lacks outside of Noelle, and C6 makes Itto, Gorou, Albedo and Ningguang into monsters. Plus nobody buffs def like him
@@ellenhunter5531 that is why i prefer geo. No need to worry about the timing of elem. reactions. Gorou doesnt need his CA for his buff to work. Just go unga bunga with Itto all the way, and I can just give Gorou Favo Bow for Itto's burst to be refilled again.
I never had fun to do one shot kills unless necessary. Because of how much i like Itto, I can appreciate his badassery while in his Burst.
@@BiBiren That's half of the point as to why he's good. The point is that he is useable at c0 perfectly, does something nobody else does, is good at doing what he needs to do, has no clunky gameplay, was not nerfed into the ground for no reason, his constellations pre-c6 are improvements that he can be playable without, and is not replaceable in any situation where DEF is appreciated.
Hoyo really messed up with Faruzan, especially since Anemo is an element that will deal additional damage on the side through Swirl and is weak on it's own just like Geo (this is mostly why I avoid Xiao lol, other reason is needing c4 Jean to make him do damage). Literally put someone with Noblesse 4pc and use them instead of Faruzan until she is c6, but even then I would rather use Bennett or Diona since her energy generation is non-existent.
@@ellenhunter5531 Noelle and gorou are a good synergy to make unkillable warmachines out of geo characters.... especially if said warmachine is a C6 Noelle.
C6 faru is huge bait. They could just include half of the C6 effect to base C0 and only keep the crit dmg bonus for c6 and it would already be great(like Gorou).
C6 Faru is a whole another character at this point.
What I love about Gorou is how simple his kit is. He drops his E, his burst, then leaves. No charge shots required. Yes, Gorou is energy hungry as heck and he does negative damage but he's functional at C0. He's also very cheap to build: slap a f2p Fav bow with 4* exile set on him and he's good to go. Also only up his E if his support capabilities are all you care about. My Gorou is C6 with a level 13 E and level 4 burst.
I love how he dont need artifacts lmao
His buff is flat, you level it and go because fuck rng
@@kittencutie7074 One less RNG to care because you're absolutely right, fuck RNG
It also helps that Gorou is usually used in mono geo so he rarely has any issues getting more geo.
gorou is awesome because he takes no resources to get going. at lvl 60 he's already 80% as good as lvl 90, he only really needs to upgrade one of his talents, his BIS artifact is a 4 star set, and his best weapon is a bow that doesn't get that much use and everyone probably has several copies anyway. and he has 100% uptime regardless of having energy or not, he works fine at c0 but most of his cons are nices-to-have quality of life upgrades... to me he is the best designed support in the entire game.
2:47 Heizou be looking weird ngl
Wdym? that's the Heizou we all know and love!!
Usually gacha games have creeps like this. They probably regret the xingqiu and Bennett so they're making characters strong AT c6 instead of just strong characters overall. Best of both worlds for them but problem for players.
The thing is not about being strong at C6, but that a constellation (and one that far away) literally changes a character to which is borderline unusable before that. I think it would be fine if faruzan just gave a broken amount of numbers at C6 and was like ok tier before that, but it's not just about numbers but also about playability and satisfying/rewarding gameplay..
nah they dont bennet xiangling sucrose fischl and xingqiu are strong beacuse they are well aware what they were doing if u dint have strong characters in the beginning people would had quit long ago , hoyo arent stupid they know very well what they are doing is like how the fk can they pull such a boring ass events and then release tcg witch is fun as heck and actually is enjoyable in coop
@@vergil9981 they actually do regret Bennett bc literally every 5 star support band 4 star support was and still is compared to him and then they say nah they're not worth your wishes don't wish on it you have Bennett wich means less potential money for them
@@arwinv9005 gorou gives better dps than benny to itto even at c0 , raiden gets better dps than sara at c6 and raiden has the c2 bait , faruzan is better than benny for xiao and wanderer even at c0
so no they dont regret is fk hoyo they have crated gachas before hand , and they do have people who are fk aware of the units power lvl just to sell them
besides if they can sell u a 10%-20% better bennet with their brand new unit odds are u spend money more easily
@@vergil9981
I think you are overestimating them. They were clearly surprised by how fast the game got "solved" by people. Probably solved more than they themselves ever thought. I mean, the fact that the two of the resonances were changed already tells you that they weren't aware of how their own elemental gameplay would work together. Bennet is a good example. After his C1, none of his constellations are actually supporting a "support" playstyle. They all support a Bennet DPS playstyle. Because "support" wasn't really thought about much in the early development. They saw every character as an on-field DPS first which is why the support characters are so broken and why the constellations feel so all over the place (like Fischl's self healing constellation).
What I wanna figure out is if it was ever addressed in the beta testing how bad her energy management is, and if it was, why Hoyo never bothered to fix it????
I was following 3.3 beta changes on the leaks subreddit, and iirc they nerfed her particle generation for her skill during the beta and added an ICD to her particle generation so that you can't generate additional particles easily from her C1. Her energy needs were manageable pre-nerfs, but I guess Hoyo thought she was too OP and nerfed her to oblivion
Probably those dumb beta testers are only using her at C6.
money
I wouldn’t be surprised if Hoyo started making 4-stars so that 25% of their usefulness is in their C6
make that 70%. in the best case scenario
Wdym? Faruzan's usefulness is 90% locked behind her C6
Uh you mean 90% that has happened already
The whole idea of niche elemental supports is enabling mono element teams. For Electro, Geo, and Cryo, this is possible due to having numerous sub-DPS and on-field DPS characters who can benefit well from such supports, hence the niche is established. It's why mono Electro, mono Geo, and mono Cryo work. However, in Anemo's case, most characters are designed around being used in elemental teams (Kazuha/Sucrose/Venti), hence mono Anemo gets scuffed- and why Faruzan mostly sees use in double Anemo teams with just her and her DPS, which already makes her very replaceable.
It doesn't also help that of the three Anemo DPS she supports, none of them fully synergize with her. Wanderer's passive encourages bringing non-Anemo units, thus making Faruzan a less desirable option. Heizou's first passive needs swirl and his second passive buffs EM, neither of which are utilized in mono Anemo. Xiao would be ideal if only he didn't have his own energy issues too.
Aside from the more obvious large power gaps she has with her constellations and her aimed shot gameplay which people already showed dislike for ever since Sara, mono Anemo, her supposed niche, isn't just a feasible niche right now with its current cast of characters. Later in the future, if we get someone like an Anemo Fischl or Rosaria (off-field DPS who can generate particles well), Faruzan will be a more desirable option. Until then, mono Anemo will be very hard to pull off.
i couldnt agree more. the double anemo point is so accurate because while she provides powerful res shred, she could absolutely be replaced by another four star that does off field damage and get a similar value. and anemos archetype is built off of interacting with other elements, so she feels odd to place in a team frankly speaking
@@pnknwhte Exactly. She buffs only your Anemo DPS, so she can be replaced by almost any buffer/sub-DPS who can provide the same damage contribution (Yelan, Bennett) for literally less caveats. It's unlike say Gorou, who's the only one who can simultaneously buff Itto and Albedo well, thus actually establishing a niche.
While people's been testing and playing her as a niche support. I play her as main DPS on field with Sucrose as her battery/support, couple with Bennett and Zhongli and it's very fun. Her energy issue is negligible with sac frag Sucrose and fav lance Zhongli. Oh but you will need at least C1 to unlock her double charged shot, kinda like Tighnari playstyle.
doesn't help that xiao is kinda weak
like others have suggested, i really think hoyoverse needs to start adding some of the older 4 stars to the Paimon’s bargains shop!! i mean, they already do a similar thing in Honkai where they add older/outdated characters to one of the many shops where you can just grind for the currency needed to purchase them/their fragments…
ik Honkai and Genshin aren’t exactly a perfect 1:1 comparison in terms of how character value changes overtime, but with the growing roster of 4 stars in genshin and no system in place to guarantee a desired 4 star on a specific banner, something needs to change
nah they wont do it. old doesnt necessarily mean outdated here. the older characters are still carrying the game. the new kits they keep putting out are shit. ppl will want to pull to get these old 4* just for a lil more quality of life cuz the game is much harder w/o them. and they know that. so no, mhy wont pass the chance to make more money.
@@rootedpen2 to be fair,the characters buyable from shop in honkai are far from weak.some of the best characters are also buyable,and not all are old/outdated
No surprise that her energy take forever to recharge. The lady took 100 years to solve the puzzle that locked her in domain.
They did Faruzan dirty by locking her potential to C6. I'll just level her up to get blue fates and hopefully to get her C6 later on.
Same with Sara and Gorou. This will be the direction Hoyo was heading. They want whales to not only spend on C6 5-Stars and R5 Weapons. Hoyo also want to squeeze an extra buck by locking the characters full potential with dedicated 4-Star support that only useful at C6.
@@cardongputik2257 Gorou is very viable at C0 it's just he spikes at C6. I'd argue that Faruzan is worse then Sara cause Sara doesn't have nearly as many problems with energy due to Raiden and Electro resonance. Not to mention at least Sara CAN be used at C2 due to not needing to charge shot. Faruzan doesn't get the luxury of having another unit to fix her issues.
@@cardongputik2257 whales automatically get c6 4stars with that many pulls
Getting constellations for 4 star characters will get more difficult as the game continues intro more of them into the pool :(
@@cardongputik2257 gorou is already good at c0 not clunky or energy issue
I think it's worth noting that Mihoyo gutted Faruzan's kit during the 3.3 beta. I didn't fully follow what they changed with her but I remember looking at the leak subreddit and noticing she got nerfed a few times during the beta.
Didnt followed what was changed either but oh god the amount of people in subreddits being so desperately sad she was getting nerfs after nerfs
@@trottinettesauvage no wonder mihoyo wants to stop leakers. You make a few changes in the beta, and all of sudden people are getting sad before the character is even released
@@ghotifish1838 I mean yeah but when you see how faruzan ended up like?? I'll be sad too
@@trottinettesauvage now here's the thing... If you *didn't* know about faruzans stats through the leaks in the first place, I doubt you would be upset because (and here's the key point) you would've never known they got nerfed from better multipliers to worse ones.
@@morbidenvy yeah fair enough I guess
Of course it is. It's the direction Hoyo wants to go and it kinda sucks. Not only they will lock 5-Stars full potential on its constellations but also try to squeeze some more on its dedicated 4-Star support and that support will be only useful at C6, which is kinda hard to get TBH. Hoyo is getting greedy and greedy as time goes by. Hope they'd get some harsh reality check in the future. We need games that would be able to compete and give Genshin a run for it's money. If ever that game comes, I'll fully support it.
Shouldnt their FULL potential be locked behind C6?? I havent pulled a 5 star thats unusable at C0... Im so confused as to why anyone would want to C6 a very expensive 5 star if its not going to make the character more powerful... My Raiden wouldnt be C2 and going for C3 next rotation had it not been worth it, thats like $100-200 per character... Lets be realistic, there needs to be a reason to pull for constellations... Hell even the great Bennett everyone is comparing every 4 star to requires his C1 to be his best
Are you dumb, of course a constellation will unlock a their full potential that's just basic game design, and Faruzan is the only case we have so far that's immediately spiked up so far on her last constellation that it's sparking up discussion again.
@@ZoField It's already a given thing that characters are getting better with constellations. My point is, Hoyo give another restrictions to that characters by adding dedicated C6 support to reach their full potential. Which is kinda painful even for whales.
@@salceds Are you dumb? Did you read and understand my post clown? Try to improve your reading comprehension coz it sucks! It's already a given thing that characters are getting better with constellations. My point is, Hoyo give another restrictions to that characters by adding dedicated C6 support to reach their full potential. Which is kinda painful even for whales.
@@salceds Faruzan is the only case? Really? How about Itto with Gorou? Raiden with Sara? Hoyo intentionally nerf Wanderer's damage coz they want people to pull for C6 Faruzan. That's what it is and it sucks.
🌸😼Of such complexities would she be, that theory-crafter and common soul alike would be beyond overwhelmed and seeking answers😼🌸
weirdly enough i love her so much at c0 already, i understand that she has a lot of her potential locked behind constellations but her double charged arrows at c1 and her kit rly appeals to me, excited to try her out at c6 with my dps kazuha B)
I'd imagine New Players pulling for scaramouche will have to deal with two niche 4 star characters having a rate up on the banner
They'll have a harder time in team building compared to players who were able to accumulate cons for top 4 stars like Bennett Xingqiu Fischl back when the 4 star pool was small
Not to mention new players can't even level up Gorou until they start chapter 2
The banner with all characters really makes it hard to gain constellation as well for characters you actually want. They should maybe split up the permanent banner into the different nations or something to make it easier to actually build constellations
I tried Genshin on a new account after a few months break because I just wasnt having fun anymore, and yet saw so much potential...
Gone was the safety of high constellation 4 stars, especially some of the earliest ones (Bennet; Xiangling, Xinqiu), along with my expansive five stars, but I had a chance to rebuild and to gain and to experience the game in a whole new light!!
Except. The game is so so so hard to play when a multitude of characters are locked behind new regions. I got a characters I wanted to play, over and over and over again, but I was forced to build other ones until I progressed... And I progressed extremely slowly. Why? Because with this new account, I wanted to pay more attention to all of the story and lore I had missed, forgotten, or ignored the first time around☹
It became too annoying so I became discouraged and played on and off for a month or two...
Luckily, Ei came in clutch just about when I had gotten into Inazuma, and has been making the experience enjoyable again😁
Honestly, I'm straight up not building her until I get C6 (which could be... In a year. Or two.) I have other buffers for my Wanderer/Xiao/Heizou and other stuff to spend my resin on than a character that will only reach playable potential after c6
Same. Xiao and Heizou do quite well without her. I use Bennett and/or TDS Sucrose with Xiao and he destroys pretty much anything I send him up against. Heizou is just plain fun, I have Xingqiu with him for swirls. I haven't been able to farm everything for Wanderer yet, but his trial run was fine without Faruzan.
2:48
That 'Heizou' looks sus
The state of 4 star characters in Genshin is honestly laughable at this point!
They put so much effort into the designs of the characters and then butcher their kits or just make them heavily constellation dependant.
Just like Kujou Sara, Faruzan is pretty much dysfunctional at C0 and Mihoyo absolutely knows this...
good thing about the wanderer is that he doesn't really need Faruzan in his teams, but yeah, Faruzan is a whale-bait unfortunately
Gorou i think was specific buffers done right, everything else always seemed to have something off about them. C0 kuki has that long time to apply buff problem,c0 shenhe has very little buff uptime, c0 faruzan has some energy problems and has a poor buff uptime for xiao users. Her burst also has a weird triangle movement which just makes it so her buff during her ult is inconsistent.
he was done right, but he honestly isn't the best fit for his "suportees". he's mostly an additive buffer, and two of the three characters that benefit the most from his buffs have massive base stats already. he's super good, but compared to what bennet is to units with low attack, gorou doesn't make that much of a difference for noelle and itto. i mean, it's nice that he give likes 800 atk to noelle with a lvl 13 burst, but 1300 when she already had 3500 before he stepped in isn't that large of an increase. good thing there's also a 15% geo bonus damage and his c6, otherwise he'd be kinda meh. good only because there aren't other options.
what geo really needs is a multiplicative buffer, like kazuha, or a mona that lasts longer.
long story short:
Gorou gives geo +30% damage because they already have a ton of defense of their own.
Bennet almost doubles non-geo damage in some cases because they have comparatively low atk and they can still offset the extra to other multiplicative stats to balance better.
also geo needs one more def-scaling utility unit, preferably from another element so they can still crystalize. would be nice if yelan scaled from def. perfect, in fact.
the biggest issue i have involving faru is that she's the 1st playable character ive seen who has no hangout quest, no events featuring her, & no role in the main story. every other character in the game has at least 1 of those things
oh, you're right. i haven't even seen her in-game yet
The crazy thing is there are people in the community are defending Faruzan's design and saying her energy management is not that bad.
Dude, Garo literally just uses his skill and he buffs Geo for as long as the field last. Shenhe presses E and her buff last 12 seconds or set number of hits. Sara presses E, lands a charge shot and provides 6 second buff. Faruzan only half functions at CO.
Some say like bennett and xingqiu also had high energy cost. But i didn't feel like it at all with my bennett. I just need a 2pc Scholar set and Skyrider Sword with an EM Sands. I run my bennett with 186 ER and i always had my burst ready before it's cooldown is refreshed.
@@usmanya5110 Bennett's burst cost 60 energy. His skill generates 2 particles on a 5 sec CD on press and he has a passive that reduces the CD by 20%. No one in their right mind would say Bennett has a high energy cost. People use him to battery other units.
I can maybe see someone say Xingqui has a high energy cost because his Burst cost 80. But his skill generates 4 to 5 particles on hit and most use Sacrificial Sword. Hell, he can even battery other units while still using his burst off cool down.
@@Seven7swords thank you. I was actually kinda confused when there was a comment saying that Bennett has energy problems.
The "toxic positivity" crowd. That's not good tbh, I've seen the same shit from world of tanks crowds before. So many are happy with bad design and reject the push for change despite the change actually benefit them.
I think it's unfortunate that Faruzan is so investment-hungry when she shares the space with Gorou. They're both characters specifically designed to improve the viability of elements that don't benefit from reactions, but Gorou needs incredibly little investment because most of his value is based on his skill talent level, so he doesn't need good artifacts or weapons at all.
Ikr I love how gorou just went screw rng and functions with 0 investment other than level
2:48 wanderer wanderer & xiao
1 simple change that would make this not a problem is to make 3rd slot for 4 stars in shop and put there supports like goru sara farazon so you can guarantee like 2 constelations per year
I wouldn't have any problem with 4* characters potential locked behind C6, if we could get them with a finite amount of resources, the fact that you can spend thousands of rolls and not get a single copy of a character is the worst part of Genshin's gacha system.
Yet they wont "fix" it because profit
Agreed. Still looking for Yanfei.. meanwhile I got Faruzan c4 and Gorou c3 (I'm a recent player). That was a bruh moment
I kinda disagree with she is the only one who completely becomes a different characters with C6... Noelle becomes DPS after C6, Yelan C6 made her into a dps monster instead of just a better Xing Qiu.
that's very true! but noelle and yelan are at least playable at c0 💀
@@leka2095 ohh i get it now. If you put it that way than yes. Maybe Faruzan is the only one who is 'unplayable' until C6
Typical of Mihoyo: create a problem then sell it via constellations or other characters.
Hoyoverse, I thought energy hungry units are Inazuma's theme. Why does a Sumeru character also have this problem? 🤣🤣🤣
2:20 I disagree. Her scaling from base atk is probably one of the only few POSTIVE things going for her.
I mean, base atk is only increased via levels and the base atk of your weapon - so atk stats on artifacts don't matter whatsoever and you can purely focus on ER as main stats and substats for every single artifact piece you have.
Sure, if you could, you would want the highest base atk weapon which may not have ER as a main stat - and maybe you can run sac bow over fav bow to trade some ER for base atk - but if she scaled from almost anything else then THAT would be getting in the way of building ER on her.
Also, I'mma say it. This vid may not be Faruzan hate but this comment is. For what reason did they have to make her energy requirements so high? And from what I know, her constellations don't help besides the final one! What? If they don't want "anxiety" inducing content then why not make Faruzan easily accessible so people can at least play that character! I don't appreciate the intent or philosophy behind Faruzan's kit and constellations at all.
ikr, i mean 80 cost burst is reasonable to “lock her power” as a 4 stars but energy generation got nerfed so bad so sell her c6 is ridiculous, from non existence energy to battery herself AND on fielder
I'm so annoyed at these anxiety jokes.
The main reason for the comment is that they focus on their Chinese audience first. Their main Chinese targeted audience work long hours in the day with only a few hours of freetime (barely). That's why they keep the casual style events and such and wont increase the resin cap etc that would help give the game massive time commitments.
Everything else is just done to not repeat the mistake of making the launch characters busted.
They always speak with forked tongue. If you familiar with their people, you'll know.
That's why they cheated about Faruzan drop rate, it's almost impossible to pull for her. All you get is hundreds of Yanfei constellations...
I kept getting gorous 💀
I pulled itto as well luckily so it played out well but still
@@lemon_boii1074 well yeah, they are pretty good together ;)
imo the only real well designed niche 4 star like this was yun jin. even though she isnt an element specific buffer, she's pretty much just as niche, only supporting yoimiya and ayato really well and i guess she could work pretty well with wanderer too? gorou may come close, i dont have him so i never got to try him out, but yun jin is extremely good in my experience running yoimiya teams. honestly better than my c6 bennett at same investment, though usually i opt to run both
i do think yun jin is a perfect way of designing niche characters, and i also think gorou came p close as well all things considered, but yes, yun jin great
Afraid to ask, but does Ayato Vape Bennet's circle, vape himself (because I assume that occassional physical damage numbers during his E would change) or outright spits fire? :) Also with Yun Jin, please, kind of want to try her with Ayato, but she's not C6 and requires and entirely new set of Artifacts, so stalling fully comitting to build her
@@FlamesAndShadows yun jin still works really well at c0, i have her c2 personally but that was recent. and i pay her with yoimiya so im not the person to ask about ayato
@@inphrognito1018 Ah, ok. Really like Yoimiya, but her banner always pops up right before a character I really want. Is she as good for Floor 12 buffed Abyss Thunder Manifestations and Ruin Serpent Bosses as they claim?
@@FlamesAndShadows i mean she's my best option for those bosses. way easier to hit them than using like a melee dps or a heizou.
If you give a company Billions in revenue, they will definitely continue to do things the same way or slightly worse because they have no incentive to change.
I feel like using C0 Sara as a 'dedicated Electro' support doesn't really apply since she only gets her dedicated Electro support utility at c6. She's kinda like Bennett in that they're both just general supports and only become specific elemental supports at c6
All a tactic to squeeze money out of a hyped 5 star character. They know the numbers and are maximizing the hype around this and know 4 stars can be a substantial increase in revenue for there higher paying audience, as there are no guarantees you can get the needed cons for there kit especially for these dedicated supports. I like to watch the pull videos just to see what the true cost is and it is clear that a lot of the time its more likely the rolls will not go your way.
The major difference of Faruzan to Sara, Gorou and Shenhe is her buffing capability is only available at Burst. Sara, Gorou and Shenhe provides her buffing ability in their skill while also providing enough energy for their supposed DPS. Meanwhile, Faruzan's skill is technically useless and not enough energy to sustain herself. If Hoyoverse just designed her kit where she buff using skill, and shred using Burst (like Shenhe), this problem will be avoided. It wouldn't make her completely insane in C6, but atleast it would make her completely viable at C0.
I'm sorry, but C0 Sara is a clunky mess. an absolutely nightmare to use
I like her most with Heizou cuz he doesnt need a battery, generates energy and can switch very often. I don´t think is a problem for her to need Constelations, i think on C2 she becomes manageble if can arrow blast 2 times, sadly already got Yanfei and Gorou C6 so is not a good deal atm for me to pull more on this banner. Hopping i dont have to wait too long for her next banner.
The problem with double arrow is that it has particle icd, meaning you cant shoot two and get 4 particles, you have to wait for the cooldown to reset basically if you want it to be consistent to get the particles, which Means it's only really useful for if you miss the first shot and got no particles
@@deztacular so need to wait 3 seconds betwen? kinda sucks
@@valojeda5335 6 seconds
You don’t think Faruzan needs constellations, but she becomes manageable when she gets C2… so, is she unmanageable at C0? but you say she doesn’t need constellations?
Make a decision dude! Is she fine at C0 or not?!
@@gabrielquintero2137 I said "i think" on that coment cuz i didnt have her c2 atm. I do now and she is... 280% ER and no energy issues, 18 sec buff (32% Anemo dmg+ 30%- anemo res+ dmg from base atack + 20% from nobles...). 2 Particles + Fav bow white particles are enough.
The only diference betwen c0 and c2 is the 6 sec extra buff time, make her more compatible with Xiao, C0 is just fine for Heizou tho
I don´t have issues with 4 stars needing some constelations to become more efective.
I hope, in compensation, she appears in banners that are not Wanderer’s. Maybe Xiao’s in the upcoming Rite??? Because I’m so tired of not getting Gorou because I’m unwilling to spend on Itto or not getting Kujou Sara because I never have any primogems saved when Raiden rolls round.
She could appear in an event or a side story to fabricate the excuse.
I know it's not the topic of the video, but I honestly think bows are just a horrendous weapon type. I promise it's related.
Think about it: there are only 3 competitive bow characters that actually use their bows: Ganyu, Yoimiya, and Tighnari. Even Yoimiya it's arguable, because i could even see someone with her exact same kit using a catalyst.
Diona is useful for her shield and healing, fischl is an applicator with her skill, venti is defined by his black hole burst, and childe literally THROWS HIS BOW AWAY and becomes immeasurably better. None of them utilize their weapon to get their value, instead focusing on skills and bursts which can be tacked onto any weapon type.
So this basically leaves bow with two things that make it unique: physical ranged attacks (that basically no one uses) and the charged shot. But who actually utilizes the charged shot?
Well, as mentioned before, Tighnari and Ganyu. Ganyu's numbers are just ridiculous and a main weakness of charge shot: the single target nature. Tighnari doesnt have the numbers Ganyu has, but he circumvents another weakness by having a reduction to the charge time in his base kit. The only two characters who utilize the charge shot regularly both have to modify it in some way to make it a viable playstyle.
Back to the elemental buffers. Gorou is usable at c0, but he gets much better at c6. People avoid using sara at c0, instead recommending c2. Everyone knows Faruzan is borderline unusable until c6.
Well, why is that? Back to bows: both Sara and Faruzan have a skill to charged shot playstyle while Gorou does not. Both Sara's c2 and Faruzan's c6 make that charge shot unnecessary by wrapping their desired effects into a skill: Sara's skill applies the buff, Faruzan's burst regenerates her energy.
Both have entirely different issues that are caused by charge shot. Bow is just made horrendously worse than every other weapon type because the thing that makes it unique. Faruzan has horrible energy problems because her way of regenerating energy is slow and annoying to use, Hoyo literally NERFED her by giving her a bow. If it was literally any other weapon type (besides maybe claymore), skill to charged attack would not be a problem.
I agree with the overall analysis, but I'm asking for clarification and rebuttal terms.
Isn't the main problem with so few bow focused bow users is because the rest are all supports? Because Fischl dropping Oz and your other examples, how is that any different from other weapons with support catagories? Only the onfielders "use" their weapons, the rest just use whatever animation that makes sense. Like what makes these abilities any worse because they're bows?
Like the Kaeya/dendro traveler cone splash skill. They're swinging their swords, but you could do the same type of ability with a bow user shooting a spread shot. Or the extended hand, for magically aiming summonable skills, could be done the same with a bow user charging a differently glowy shot. It's just a change in animation. How is that any different aside from weapon availability and raw numbers?
Similarly, the two cryo shielders. Layla literally just summons a shield out of nowhere, and even summons her mobile ult. She doesn't use her sword. Meanwhile, even if she tosses her thematic drink shaker for her ult, Diona at least shoots her kitty paw projectiles from her bow to hit enemies. So by those standards Diona is more of a bow user while Layla is barely a sword user, she might as well be a catalyst (which we still need).
So what problem mechanically makes the bow users so much worse compared to supports in general? Because for the most part it's just an on field carry problem.
Sara is NOT functional at c0 lol, Faruzan very much is, just with a much MUCH higher ER requirement
She is lol, uncomfortable but it still been functional
I wouldn't consider a 'dedicated elemental support' who doesn't even give any element specific buffs before the c6 functional, especially when she's outdone in every single metric by a Tales of the Dragonslayers Lisa
That moment when you realize Faruzan was meant to be played in mono Anemo teams
Something that makes me personally really sad is that I got c6 Gorou and c5 Yanfei (I didn’t even had c0 of either of them before this banner), but only c2 Faruzan. Like is her rate lower than that of the other characters or what?
ngl mihoyo might have some sort of way to track what you want because that happens so often it can't be a coincidence. maybe new characters get a lower rate than repeats or something. i don't trust ANY rng in this game to be truly random. it's all stacked/rigged one way or the other. it's all pseudo rng.
C0 faruzan
Imo yes kind of a problem. She offers a role that isn't there yet which is good. But the thing is, her supporting capabilities to buff the hypercarry are just theoretically the same result as just replacing her with sub dps.
Tl;dr
Wanderer + faruzan c0 equals to wanderer + sub dps
Which equates to a materias/resin loss for little to none increase
My scara be hitting amost the same with yunjin and faruzan and yunjin is so much easier to use
@@Yiyithaa this is indeed the problem. The reward over the investment is so minimum to justify running her.
Positive side = balancing team of genshin did a great job to tone down powercrept
Negative side = will makes u always ask urself why even build her if the result are the same with other units that i have built before? Waste of resources and time
@@Galariel Part of the problem too imo is the fact that mono Anemo isn't as feasible as say, mono Electro for Sara or mono Geo for Gorou. You can run multiple damage dealing characters for the latter two (Yae-Raiden and Albedo-Itto), which makes building them worth as a niche team. But in Faruzan's case, there are hardly any Anemo sub-DPS for her to also support. I think if we got an Anemo sub-DPS who can fit in Xiao/Heizou/Wanderer teams, then Faruzan-centric mono Anemo teams might be more worth building.
C0 faruzan are useless lol. No need to speak about bennet, even C0 yunjin are better buffer than her for scara and heizo.
@@Galariel the answer to that question is... You build them because you love their design and personality 😆
imo genshins balancing team seems rly scared of powercreep which is fair since it isnt exactly a good thing but of all the games ive played genshin is the first one ive seen where its reverse powercreep in that older (4*) units are leagues better compared to newer ones (c0 benny, xiangling, xingqiu and sucrose are serviceable whereas faruzan here for example is so constellation dependant, its either that or that character’s kit’s true potential is locked behind future updates like kuki and thoma) honestly its a shame since if they made these character’s kits a bit better, they’d see more play and viability and bennett and co wouldnt be revered as much
If only they were in THAT F* STRAGLITTER SHOP that didn't change for 2 years !
At first I thought ppl were making a big deal for nothing... But 280 ER + fav bow not enough ?! WTH 😂
I think that's being dramatic because they're limiting how much time you need to spend on her, but honestly she really does wanna use her charge shot after he E cast so she gets to catch Favonius particles and get two more Anemo particles afterwards.
She's useless without 300% ER at C0, its pretty insane to think about it.
I have no problem with exclusive elemental supports since it allows me to explore more teams. I mostly main geo so I have a Gorou and even my Gorou which buffs significantly for my Itto and Albedo isn't even that well invested. Fav and 4pc exile with ER sands is enough to sustain him. His kit is also very easy to use and understand. However for Faruzan she isn't technically hard to use but her kit is somewhere mismatched. Like what does her E do it doesn't even give buffs or debuff, the cc isn't very strong and it generates little particles, I also find it weird that you have to CA after casting her E why not just make her cast E and swap her out. She doesn't work as sub DPS unless you invest greatly on her and for a support she's not doing too great since she has no means to generate particles. She's really hard to use at C0 rotation wise unless you have 3 anemo.
The only good thing for me about her is that she scales off base attack so you can give her high base weapon and just focus on ER on the artifacts.
Honestly speaking if hoyo do plan to make niche 4* character support like Faruzan, Sara and Gorou I wish they would just design them as straight forward as Gorou who is by far the most cohesive niche 4* support. I thought Sara is bad at C0 as an electro support but low key I'm not a huge fan of Faruzan currently.
Hello fellow geo enjoyer!!! The only reason I level Gorou to 90 because I want to get some more healing out of him. Other than that, he's so cheap it's funny.
Well said. Gorou don't even need exile or fav for his buff. That's just something extra people do get more use out of his already good kit.
Honestly if Faruzan’s skill was able to also shred Anemo res or just generate more energy then she wouldn’t be as problematic, I think the fact that she’s also a support is what’s affects her as well because her elemental skill actually has a decently short CD, but there’s no need for her to be on the field for that long
Her skill does shred anemo res tho.
I've always hated this constellation gimmick. I have to get the character a whopping 7 times to unlock their full potential? So annoying.
i wish it was easier to get 4star cons, gorou and sara have so much insane utility locked behind c6, and theyre only ever on banners of the 5 star theyre made for...which is annoying bc i dont want cons for the 5stars
She's constellation locked, like she was locked on a puzzle for centuries.
I observe that Noelle is like this too. She's only viable as DPS at C6 (that can carry). I may say this isn't the first time.
For me it was just disappointing as a Xiao main not planning to pull for Scaramouche anyway, because it makes it much more difficult for the constellations. Especially as Xiao is notoriously difficult energy wise, and therefore I'd have to sacrifice things like pyro res, Zhongli, or Benny for Sucrose, things that dramatically increase his damage. I use Sucrose now but I don't think it's necessarily worth the benny buff or the Zhongli comfort of play.
From a business stand point they nerfed her so you can spend more money to make her viable. Seems pretty messed up.
and I'm happy to finally have an Anemo character and not have to go to mondstadt with the traveler just to resonate with Anemo and go back to where I was before the trip
Honestly, Faruzan is a big reason I decided to skip Wanderer. It honestly feels like he was designed to push primo sales based on his popularity by tacking on a character like Faruzan that willhit people with the FOMO feeling they need C6 to make Wanderer good. I really don't like that. No character, especially a 4* support, should need constellations to feel usable.
Add new 4*s in Paimon’s bargain shop. Keep the old. But add new 4*characters.
2:48 when did Heizou get that shiny new hat?
i use her as my main dps because she's the only bow user i have that i enjoy maining, and because i have her c1, it feels like constant E skill uses which i find really fun using shogun for a sort of taser build! i recommend trying her dps if you like bow characters ^^
I agree with the point you made with the business outlook. It’s well known that scara fans have been saving for him for awhile so one of the only ways they’d make more (knowing that ppl have a lot of wishes saved. Wishes saved = less top-ups being bought) money is to lock Faruzan’s “fixes” behind her cons. Especially since we know that people were stoked to finally have an anemo support for a while. It kinda sucks bc even if you did save up for just his weapon and a single copy of him guaranteed, you aren’t guaranteed c6 faruzan anyway. 😭 so then you’d feel Like you’d have to pay money to keep pulling and hopefully get her so your scara could be the best he could be. And it’s even worse if you wanted her for someone else and didn’t want scara at all.
i think for me the problem isnt for faruzan specifically,
but with wanderer isnt good enough to carry himself unlike xiao who only need anemo battery.
Yeeeeah… locking major aspects/usability behind constellations is garbage. If this is the direction Genshin continues to go then there’s little point in pulling for characters unless you’re a whale
Me, who doesn't read character talent descriptions, after this video: SHE'S A BUFFER?!
I guess it's nifty that I put her in a team with Heizou, but since she's C0 I can't do much with that information-
oh this isn't about bow characters.. or about characters tied to a specific characters banner. This constellation issue is really with the Sumeru 4 stars, which is really weird as they aren't in the star glitter shop, which is really compounding this issue.. I'd just like one more copy of dori please.
well, mika is around the corner and...if he is a niche physical buffer, seems like he will add to the c6 benefit rooster too. although i wonder if hoyoverse still think about physical.
I mean, the only disadvantage here is that she isn’t usable at less constellations but since she is a 4 star, you’re bound to get her eventually c6 or more. I’m okay with that instead of eventually getting useless 4 stars even at c6. 🤷♂️
Sara isn’t viable at all under C6. She only provides an attack buff for only 6 secondes.
Faruzan at C0 is less strong than C0 Gorou but it does et mean that she is not viable at this point.
Give her a Fav now, an ER sand ans with some ER sub stats procs in other artifacts and you will easily have more than 250% ER on her. That might be enough most the time.
Her C2 and C4 make her easier to play and her C6 is broken.
The real problem is to not have any pity system for 4* that are on banner. To lock some 4* characters under constellations is a thing but to not be sure to get any Faruzan (or any 4* item) even if you spend hundreds of € or $ is a real issue that miHoYo should think about.
There is more and more 4* characters in Genshin and to have them on banner will become more rare so we need a new system for 4* pulls.
no need powercreeping if that only needs a c6 for a four star, no need to powercreep indeed!
Faruzan is a mess. Too high Energy requirement and only worth the investment at c6. I only have c1 after 80-90 pulls on Wanderer so go figure. I'll have to use other supports.
Why does Faruzan want Viri? If she's on the team she's either boosting an Anemo Hypercarry or a mono anemo team
Except Faruzan doesn't need attack stat, because her A4 buff is 0 to none. And since she has to battery Xiao, her best weapon in slot is Favonius, and it is actually good, because not so many bow supports use it: Gorou, who can also use Sacrificial, Diona who can run Sac or Curved, that's all.
But yeah, you need very much ER for her at c0 and even c1
And i still don't like what they did to Candace, to be barely playable at c6 =(
This is just another money grab. I got a c1 wanderer before i got c0 faruzan who i wanted more 🤦🏼♀️ ill just have to wait for her next banner cause i already spent all my gems 😥
I honestly don't like your input onto trying to comfort us Mihoyo won't dig into this type of bad 4* at C0 just bc faruzan is niche. Ok faruzan is anemo niche but then what? Should we set our expectations the same for other elements possibly future niche supports? 4* are mostly only supports anyways (not counting the OG) so they are going to suffer (and they already are) to being more and more lack luster..
They tested the water with sara and gorou, and I think they are just tryna pushing the limits of "how bad can we make our future characters at C0 before our players start getting really pissed off" just to force pulling for constellations if we want comfort. Even 5* are getting into those treatment, when constellations now "solves problems" instead of giving silly enhancements.
I get they dont wanna go into powercreep as long as they can since we are far away from the end of the game but how they are designing new characters' base kit now is still concerning.
Ig it's good for long time players that dont need to feel forced pulling new characters to be relevant into that already very small meta-part of the game but honestly it also feels bad pulling for a character that end up not being useful at all... like I love candace i love most sumeru 4* even but they just feel so bad to play I mean it's not rewarding and I rather just let them be benched like idk... it's not really enjoyable?? I just want character that are satisfying to play without having to to sell a kidney lmao
I honestly don't even care about numbers just don't want to let mihoyo create new design that are getting less playable unless you get all their const.
I'm honestly scared of the fate for characters like baizhu lyney lynette iansan... very anticipated since day 1 but what will they do to them on release??
Is faruzan a problem absolutely yes as someone who's been waiting for a dedicated anemo support since xiao's release her being absolutely garbage until c6 is aggravating af and literally wouldn't fly in any game that isn't a gacha game, if it were any other game she would have already been hot fixed to reduce her burst cost AND increase her partical generation because she can't battery herself or her team mates even with a fav bow, imo faruzan at c0 is competing for the worst designed character in genshin, it really shows that hoyoverse's doesn't care about their players just their wallets, to xaio mains hoyoverse has literally said we know you've waited basically 2 years for this character now give us all your money xaio mains said ok how much and hoyoverse was like idk how long is a piece of string she's a 4* no pity and you can't use her until c6 so yeah that much
as long they didnt update the star glittershop with new character any *4 support need cons will be bad for me. Look here, i have rosaria when she first time release at C0, now i still have C0 Rosaria, its like.... 2 years man and didnt get another Rosaria. my kaeya? C4 thats why i more preffer Kaeya than Rosaria.
Got back into genshin after a long break, trialed all the new characters, loved wanderer hated faruzan, decided to pull on the banner directly after and got faruzan 🥴 I use her very very rarely and exclusively ranged cryo puzzles etc... She's not a character I can use confidently right now, and I don't have the time or resources to get her to c6
Why would she run viridescent when the characters you run her with don't prioritize swirl damage? I.e. Xiao & Wanderer. The rest of her buffs like anemo shred and anemo dmg increase also don't matter for swirl. It's better to just go 2 pc emblem + ER.
ExcUse mE, did u purposefully put in Wanderer when you mention Heizou because they are so alike? O_O xD
The bigger problem for hoyo is they are running out of character roles to fill. All elements now have a main dps, sub dps, and buff/support characters that are reasonably functional. Where do they go from here? For the most part all they can now provide is side grades to the existing rosters. After players have 3-4 team comps what is the incentive to pull on side grades..... sure some might be a better fit to fill a specific role but once that is filled then what? They can revamp geo reactions I guess or add a new mechanic or stat..... idk..... things will probably stagnate and be over saturated if they keep this model up...
I usually heavily get 2 out of 3 featured banner characters, if its one of the unlucky ones by the time my f2p ass gets the workable constellations, new better (or easier to use) teams will be composed, and probably a 5 star version would roll out
The problem is not that she need C6 to work, the problem is we have no pity for 4 star. That alone is directly fucking people up.
>me who can't even secure ONE Faruzan 100 fates in
ah you... you want C6 huh... hm...
Anyone else notice that when heizou was mentioned his 5 star form was on his place lol
My faruzan is c0 with only like 124% er and her burst has constant uptime I dojt know how
I got her. I'm f2p and i don't think i would be having her in c6 anytime soon. 2 years, 3 or 4?