this video is for newer players trying out Hyperbloom or wanting to get into playing Shinobu :) also Shinobu is my homie for life, it is NEVER too late to learn about Hyperbloom Shinobu wtf 😎
This myth that "no one" used Kuki when she was released is a complete and utterly delusional take. I was enjoying what my day one C6 Kuki had to offer way before Dendro showed up to the party.
Ok bro, so you were one of the 5 people that were trying to make a then incredibly niche and ineffective Shinobu work. That doesn't change the fact the vast majority (which is what no-one refers to in this scenario for anyone with fluent english ability) didn't. Because she was bad.
@Cr3zant I wasn't trying to make anything work and Bad at what exactly? She was the first electro healer, and do you know what she did? She healed... If being bad means you do the thing that you were designed to do exactly the way you're suppose to do it, then the definition of "Bad" needs to be reevaluated or people need to lower their expectations for things that were never offered in the first place...
I've been hoping to get Kuki for a long time (Standard banner has been mean to me). Was saving up to get my favorite Archon, Nahida, and was shocked to see Kuki is in her banner too! So I finally got Kuki 💜and kept going until I got Nahida, now my Kuki is C6! I gave her 4piece Paradise Lost and 1026 EM, she is OP 💜 a must have imo.
As a F2P, this banner was my first time having Nahida & Cookie (C2 and C6 respectively) and I'm amazed by how nicely they work together. Before them, I used Furina & Jean, and now... It's still Furina & Jean, but with Nahida & Cookie on the very same team. So I get the best of both duos :D
Returning player that quit at release of Chasm. Probably been playing for a good 8 or 9 months now whenever Eula was on that legacy banner or w/e it’s called. But anyways I got a single copy of Kuki in the standard banner and she sat un leveled until I got to Sumeru. I ended up leveling Dendro traveler to 81, Tighnari to 80, Collei 70 and tried out different teams with Xingqui and later on Nuev. Wasn’t finding much success in Abyss. Mainly bc I didn’t level my artifacts past 16 or even have decent sets at the time so I put it on hold until I got Nahida. Well finally won my 5050 and got her with 1 copy of Kuki getting me to C1. I kept doing single pulls until yesterday and finally got C2 Kuki. I also just got Nahida to lvl 81 with talents 6/8/6. But right now I need to save up mora to finish leveling them both and get their artifacts to 20. Even still I’m seeing decent hyberbloom damage around 30-40k. Once that’s done I can finally take this team into abyss after waiting nearly a year to get Nahida.
FINALLY got my c2 Shinobu, since trying all I could for it since starting in 3.6. Also got an early c1 Nahida that I didn't even want because Shinobu reeaaally needed convincing to come home 😅
As a relatively new player, I would find it pretty helpful if you gave example ability rotations for the main teams you mention. You mention in passing that Kuki’s burst isn’t important, and that dendro characters are generally the onfield driver, which is already quite helpful; but what does the rest of the rotation look like?
The typical setup-assuming that we are only talking about nahida kuki and xingqiu would be nahida e, xingqiu e-q-e(assuming sacrificial sword), then kuki e and finally nahida q. Depending on the final flex slot-they would be inserted depending on the buff/skill duration that they have. say that we put in alhaitham-then he automatically gets put last right after nahida q, being the drriver of the team and the onfield dps. yelan would be before xingqiu e-q-e as nahida becomes the driver. But the standard format is generally stated. e is for skill, and q is for burst.
Adding onto this, the reason we're delaying nahida q after kuki e is that we're assuming 2 things: Dendro resonance and gilded dreams Most kuki's would go for gilded dreams due to it being a highly reficient domain to farm-containing deepwood which nahida also wants. And in most kuki nahida teams-if not all, kuki has the highest em count even with gilded dreams coming into play. Gilded dreams also has another effect-which is the one we're mainly interested in-when it procs a reaction, the user of the sett also gains an atk and em buff-but we're mostly interested in the EM buff, because it also raises the amount of em kuki has Dendro resonance is also basically the same but with dendro reactions in play instead-granting a total of 50 base em, with 50 more from triggering 2 different dendro related reactions. With all of these in mind-we are basically waiting for kuki to reach the highest amount of em she could have before we activate nahida q. Why? Because nahida q grants an em share to the active character based on the teammate with the highest em. And with a nahida as the driver-this em share becomes extremely potent on her(or the current driver).
@nemesis1022 - so you suggest Dendro resonance rather than Hydro resonance? In say a Kuki/Xingqiu/Nahida team, is there a particular Dendro character you’d want for the fourth slot, or does it not really matter? And is it worth using their abilities, or would it delay the rotation too much? (Thanks for all the info, very helpful!)
@nemesis1022 - oh sorry I just reread the part about Alhaitham and Yelan, that sort of answered my question. But I don’t have either of them yet, so I guess I’ll specifically ask: is it worth throwing Collei or Dendro Traveller into the rotation, or should I just keep them on the team for resonance but not use them?
@@RobertWSquirrel they both work very well-any dendro or hydro character could slot very well into the final slot-as long they help provide more blooms for kuki to proc into hyperblooms. Alhaitham and Yelan are kinda the staples but they can definitely be replaced by a variety of other characters as well. As long as it isn't someone that would steal the hyperblooms away from kuki(i.e raiden or pretty much any pyro character, who would instead proc burgeon) they could usually slot in pretty well!
I remember when Kuki released and built her Physical as a meme, I even crowned her normal attacks lmao After that I built her EM Tenacity and even pre-dendro she worked surprisingly great, I believed in her when no one else did
In a hyper look focused Kuki/nahida team, does kuki need to be on field so she gets nahida’s ult EM buff, since kuki’s EM is the one detonating the blooms?
SHUT UP!!! Pulling for a single kuki i got a brand new c6 sethos and not a single kuki😢. First i lost fify fifty, pulled and got nahida, now i'm at pity 57 and YET NO KUKI SHINOBU. I had to stop with no kuki becouse i want neuvi. And now every video recommended is talking about how good kuki is... Great video bro. Someday i will get her
Sorry for the shut up I had to get it out of my chest I'm really disappointed. Can someone recommend a good team for sethos? Now I feel like I should build him. I'm thinking Nahida, fischl, xingqiu and sethos. Any more recommendations for him?
Fischl can be really nice for off-field damage and can even help battery a little bit if you’re running teammates that need their bursts, but beidou works too for just… pure off field damage, but you could also slap on a second dendro unit for Dendro resonance, or sucrose to give more EM to Shinobu, or another hydro unit for hydro resonance, Lots of options at your disposal :)) and the differences between each option aren’t too terrible, so you can experiment around with which 4th character feels the best for you !
As a harbinger of chaos Raiden fans look away Kuki is better ik hyperbloom. Ask yourself this why is Alhaitham always pairing with Kuki when Raiden is right there? Jokes asides i love Kuki i have her c2 and i have Raiden. I have my preference on which i prefer which is Kuki but i won't stop you
@@futanahriadventures I don't agree with raiden here tbh, as she would steal some of the bloom cores. I'd argue that another dendro/hydro applicator, with the exception of electro units that can't proc the hyperblooms
@@nemesis1022 i can see your point. But at the same time, in this particular setup, Raiden should be built around EM as well, hence stealing cores wouldnt be an issue. Having her around eases a lot of ER threshold, and makes those rotations way smoother because of burst spam. But it's a personal preference when i'm running hyper raiden.
@@futanahriadventures it kinda wastes raiden and kuki and becomes a bit redundant-a fourth character creating more blooms in the first place would be way more optimal-or subbing out kuki entirely for raiden with a different flex slot. The reason why I mentioned that in the first place is redundancy issues. If it instead say a baizhu/collei/yelan or pretty much any other character instead of kuki nahida raiden xingqiu I could agree.
For er-even fischl could slot in better virtue of taking advantage of her a4 and c6 giving raiden more dps in the first place(and if you like healing, fischl slots in better virtue of her significant personal dmg without affecting cores and providing a lot of particles)
I dont think fischl is that good in hyperbloom comlared to kuki and raiden application tho...also chill u sound kinda rude...like most of the comments lol what are ppl so angry at lololol😮
@GUACAMOLE578 I said as a secondary electro in which case she's one of the better options. She doesn't proc any hyperblooms so she doesn't steal kuki's cores. There's a difference between being rude and just being direct
definitely a good synergy !! I truncated a lot of info in this video since it discusses older topics, so tbh I coulda spent a little longer talking about her, I get you hehe
this video is for newer players trying out Hyperbloom or wanting to get into playing Shinobu :) also Shinobu is my homie for life, it is NEVER too late to learn about Hyperbloom Shinobu wtf 😎
Thank you! I started playing about a week ago. The Nahida banner is perfect for new players starting out!
Shinobu for life! Shame I don't have Alhaitham but I'll wait, for a very long time
My mans like 2 years late
it’s never too late to find an excuse to play Kuki Shinobu, now get tf up and start farming new Paradise Lost pieces for her !!!!!! RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
It's becoz of nahida rerun
Just got both, started not long ago, video was helpful
dragonfly finally came out of his swarm to talk about a two-year-old meta team frfr
mannnn if I wanna talk about a Shinobu Hyperbloom team then dammit I’m gonna
Got her at c6. Now i just need to get far enough in the game to gather her mats or she will forever be stuck at 40.
I beg of thee… 90 her. join the Shinobu army
I got Nahida and Shinobu in the same 10-pull, then tried to get Shinobu constelation, so got another Nahida after 26 pulls, and still no more Kuki...
This myth that "no one" used Kuki when she was released is a complete and utterly delusional take. I was enjoying what my day one C6 Kuki had to offer way before Dendro showed up to the party.
Ok bro, so you were one of the 5 people that were trying to make a then incredibly niche and ineffective Shinobu work. That doesn't change the fact the vast majority (which is what no-one refers to in this scenario for anyone with fluent english ability) didn't. Because she was bad.
@Cr3zant I wasn't trying to make anything work and Bad at what exactly? She was the first electro healer, and do you know what she did? She healed... If being bad means you do the thing that you were designed to do exactly the way you're suppose to do it, then the definition of "Bad" needs to be reevaluated or people need to lower their expectations for things that were never offered in the first place...
I've been hoping to get Kuki for a long time (Standard banner has been mean to me).
Was saving up to get my favorite Archon, Nahida, and was shocked to see Kuki is in her banner too!
So I finally got Kuki 💜and kept going until I got Nahida, now my Kuki is C6!
I gave her 4piece Paradise Lost and 1026 EM, she is OP 💜 a must have imo.
As a F2P, this banner was my first time having Nahida & Cookie (C2 and C6 respectively) and I'm amazed by how nicely they work together. Before them, I used Furina & Jean, and now... It's still Furina & Jean, but with Nahida & Cookie on the very same team. So I get the best of both duos :D
Returning player that quit at release of Chasm. Probably been playing for a good 8 or 9 months now whenever Eula was on that legacy banner or w/e it’s called. But anyways I got a single copy of Kuki in the standard banner and she sat un leveled until I got to Sumeru. I ended up leveling Dendro traveler to 81, Tighnari to 80, Collei 70 and tried out different teams with Xingqui and later on Nuev. Wasn’t finding much success in Abyss. Mainly bc I didn’t level my artifacts past 16 or even have decent sets at the time so I put it on hold until I got Nahida. Well finally won my 5050 and got her with 1 copy of Kuki getting me to C1. I kept doing single pulls until yesterday and finally got C2 Kuki. I also just got Nahida to lvl 81 with talents 6/8/6. But right now I need to save up mora to finish leveling them both and get their artifacts to 20. Even still I’m seeing decent hyberbloom damage around 30-40k. Once that’s done I can finally take this team into abyss after waiting nearly a year to get Nahida.
"and I won't have to find you" had me dead
FINALLY got my c2 Shinobu, since trying all I could for it since starting in 3.6. Also got an early c1 Nahida that I didn't even want because Shinobu reeaaally needed convincing to come home 😅
Got her after 543 days of playing. Kuki❤
[chuckles in Anemo main]
As a relatively new player, I would find it pretty helpful if you gave example ability rotations for the main teams you mention. You mention in passing that Kuki’s burst isn’t important, and that dendro characters are generally the onfield driver, which is already quite helpful; but what does the rest of the rotation look like?
The typical setup-assuming that we are only talking about nahida kuki and xingqiu would be nahida e, xingqiu e-q-e(assuming sacrificial sword), then kuki e and finally nahida q. Depending on the final flex slot-they would be inserted depending on the buff/skill duration that they have.
say that we put in alhaitham-then he automatically gets put last right after nahida q, being the drriver of the team and the onfield dps. yelan would be before xingqiu e-q-e as nahida becomes the driver. But the standard format is generally stated.
e is for skill, and q is for burst.
Adding onto this, the reason we're delaying nahida q after kuki e is that we're assuming 2 things:
Dendro resonance and gilded dreams
Most kuki's would go for gilded dreams due to it being a highly reficient domain to farm-containing deepwood which nahida also wants. And in most kuki nahida teams-if not all, kuki has the highest em count even with gilded dreams coming into play.
Gilded dreams also has another effect-which is the one we're mainly interested in-when it procs a reaction, the user of the sett also gains an atk and em buff-but we're mostly interested in the EM buff, because it also raises the amount of em kuki has
Dendro resonance is also basically the same but with dendro reactions in play instead-granting a total of 50 base em, with 50 more from triggering 2 different dendro related reactions. With all of these in mind-we are basically waiting for kuki to reach the highest amount of em she could have before we activate nahida q.
Why? Because nahida q grants an em share to the active character based on the teammate with the highest em. And with a nahida as the driver-this em share becomes extremely potent on her(or the current driver).
@nemesis1022 - so you suggest Dendro resonance rather than Hydro resonance? In say a Kuki/Xingqiu/Nahida team, is there a particular Dendro character you’d want for the fourth slot, or does it not really matter? And is it worth using their abilities, or would it delay the rotation too much?
(Thanks for all the info, very helpful!)
@nemesis1022 - oh sorry I just reread the part about Alhaitham and Yelan, that sort of answered my question. But I don’t have either of them yet, so I guess I’ll specifically ask: is it worth throwing Collei or Dendro Traveller into the rotation, or should I just keep them on the team for resonance but not use them?
@@RobertWSquirrel they both work very well-any dendro or hydro character could slot very well into the final slot-as long they help provide more blooms for kuki to proc into hyperblooms.
Alhaitham and Yelan are kinda the staples but they can definitely be replaced by a variety of other characters as well. As long as it isn't someone that would steal the hyperblooms away from kuki(i.e raiden or pretty much any pyro character, who would instead proc burgeon) they could usually slot in pretty well!
This plus Rational got me to 36*.
I remember when Kuki released and built her Physical as a meme, I even crowned her normal attacks lmao
After that I built her EM Tenacity and even pre-dendro she worked surprisingly great, I believed in her when no one else did
I use Nahida, Raiden, Barbara and Yelan for Hyperbloom
I don't have her C6 and she keeps dying. My device isn't that good so i can't switch or dodge faster
IMy Cookie uses Toukabou Shigure because it matches her aesthetics. I have an extra freedom sworn, but AESTHETICS OVER META!!!
In a hyper look focused Kuki/nahida team, does kuki need to be on field so she gets nahida’s ult EM buff, since kuki’s EM is the one detonating the blooms?
SHUT UP!!!
Pulling for a single kuki i got a brand new c6 sethos and not a single kuki😢. First i lost fify fifty, pulled and got nahida, now i'm at pity 57 and YET NO KUKI SHINOBU. I had to stop with no kuki becouse i want neuvi. And now every video recommended is talking about how good kuki is... Great video bro. Someday i will get her
Sorry for the shut up I had to get it out of my chest I'm really disappointed. Can someone recommend a good team for sethos? Now I feel like I should build him. I'm thinking Nahida, fischl, xingqiu and sethos. Any more recommendations for him?
I have both yelan and xingqiu so can i use this team
Kuki nahida yelan and xingqiu??
Yes
Please cover hyperburgeon teams too.
Would alhaitham dendro mc Kuki and xinqui work?
its nothing Wrong for a Time Traveller to go to the Future and Spread his Information.
Unless you are from Eula Banner Release.😊
spotify release of that intro when?
I have a question, which character will be another option to yelan in the hyperbloom team as a four star character??
fishcl
Fischl can be really nice for off-field damage and can even help battery a little bit if you’re running teammates that need their bursts, but beidou works too for just… pure off field damage, but you could also slap on a second dendro unit for Dendro resonance, or sucrose to give more EM to Shinobu, or another hydro unit for hydro resonance,
Lots of options at your disposal :)) and the differences between each option aren’t too terrible, so you can experiment around with which 4th character feels the best for you !
@@dragonflymarcus thanks you darg ❤️
@@ironyod1083 thnks for you're opinion ❤️
I never get EM artifacts in that domain
felt
hyperbloom is for begginners who dont have many characters imo, after a certain point of playing it's just not fun to play AND slower
As a harbinger of chaos
Raiden fans look away
Kuki is better ik hyperbloom. Ask yourself this why is Alhaitham always pairing with Kuki when Raiden is right there?
Jokes asides i love Kuki i have her c2 and i have Raiden. I have my preference on which i prefer which is Kuki but i won't stop you
I LOVE THESE VIDEOS RAHHH
Some suggest best 4th teammates in kuki hyperbloom with nahida kuki and water guy
Raiden , Fischl or Yelan, depending on the floor enemies.
@@futanahriadventures I don't agree with raiden here tbh, as she would steal some of the bloom cores. I'd argue that another dendro/hydro applicator, with the exception of electro units that can't proc the hyperblooms
@@nemesis1022 i can see your point. But at the same time, in this particular setup, Raiden should be built around EM as well, hence stealing cores wouldnt be an issue. Having her around eases a lot of ER threshold, and makes those rotations way smoother because of burst spam. But it's a personal preference when i'm running hyper raiden.
@@futanahriadventures it kinda wastes raiden and kuki and becomes a bit redundant-a fourth character creating more blooms in the first place would be way more optimal-or subbing out kuki entirely for raiden with a different flex slot.
The reason why I mentioned that in the first place is redundancy issues. If it instead say a baizhu/collei/yelan or pretty much any other character instead of kuki nahida raiden xingqiu I could agree.
For er-even fischl could slot in better virtue of taking advantage of her a4 and c6 giving raiden more dps in the first place(and if you like healing, fischl slots in better virtue of her significant personal dmg without affecting cores and providing a lot of particles)
a bit late on the hyperbloom glaze train. also mentioning candace but no mention of fischl as a secondary electro is wild.
4:17 is where you musta turned your ears off. LET’S TALK ABT IT 🤩
I dont think fischl is that good in hyperbloom comlared to kuki and raiden application tho...also chill u sound kinda rude...like most of the comments lol what are ppl so angry at lololol😮
@GUACAMOLE578 I said as a secondary electro in which case she's one of the better options. She doesn't proc any hyperblooms so she doesn't steal kuki's cores. There's a difference between being rude and just being direct
@@dragonflymarcusoh damn didn't notice it lol. It's a great synergy and I would've liked if you talked about it more👍
definitely a good synergy !! I truncated a lot of info in this video since it discusses older topics, so tbh I coulda spent a little longer talking about her, I get you hehe
This video is 2 years late , hyperbloom is fallen off against the hydro dragon and some random shark girl
what if you don’t have hot hydro dragon and random shark girl
@dragonflymarcus
Then you get best girl navia or best harbinger arlechino
For those of us who just started playing genshin this video is perfect, because the Nahida banner enables a great team all by itself.
:D
Shinobu without cons not worth at all
god team...medium team with a better choice in raiden shogun