I have a GPD Win4 (the 6800U model) and I couldn't be happier with it. It solves all the issues with the Ally in terms of usability when compared to the Deck (which I also own but haven't used much since getting the Win 4) and it delivers the bulk of the features. If and when we see the next step up in performance I would certainly consider the same form factor as my first priority.
Great comparison between the two devices and also very informative. I own both if these devices. Asus Rog Ally is ideal when your using it at home.Gpd Win 4 on the other hand is great when your own the go with its compact size.
Nonono, u forgot to mention the awful heat dissipation and won’t dial down fan noise even on idle , and the smaller screen and ergonomic is not really for longtime gaming , that’s gpd win 4 . That’s why I sold it .
I really hope, something changes about ROG QA, I really don't know how stuff like the SD Card reader failing and killing cards didn't get caught in their product testing. Same issue with the Asus ROG motherboards ruining the 7000 series amd chips. I don't know whats happening with them right now. If nothing happens we just get shit quality products, before they used to be great. You go to places like the rogally subreddit and they all just say just dont use the SDcard reader and buy a 2tb drives, or they don't use the sd card so it doesnt matter. Thats not the point, GPD for example makes nice devices but support isn't as good, so youd go for the ROG ally but then you find the same issue with a product flaw and bad support. Other things both the Win 4 and Ally have huge deadzones, they also cannot be modified, I'm guessing both are using the same joystick? Both GPD and ROG are saying theyre working on drivers to fix these issues with deadzones but how can I believe either of them? Theyre the same ALPS sticks that drift, so I'm wondering if for both they intentionally increased the deadzones because those sticks are both flimsy and probably drift a ton. These are just some of the problems I saw with both handhelds and why I'm simply waiting for a good one to come out. Waiting to see the Legion device, as they make really high quality gaming laptops like asus. The pictures so far look interesting, like how did they design the controller that way without causing accidental presses? Also it comes with a 1600 resolution screen, which for the Z1 can it even make use of it? Of course for portability most people on handhelds are either going to resolutions 720, 800, 900 so I guess it doesn't really matter. Future problems with the newer handhelds coming on the market, are AMD drivers, GPD is releasing devices with 7640u and 7840u chips in them and AMD still doesn't have drivers out for them after theyve been on the market for so long. Thats ridiculous how products are basically beind sold with no driver support and running worse than last year's chipsets. These are basically all my thoughts on handheld gaming currently, I'm simply waiting for a good device to come and replace my steam deck. I'm a very happy steam deck user, but man the screen is a letdown and its just huge and bulky. Theres that new 1080p mod display but I dont think its worth it since most games we'll have to downplay the resolution anyways and the color increase doesn't sound worth it... I hope the Lenovo Legion Device ends up being designed properly and comes with VRR, those buttons on the side of the controller grips look like theyll cause issues, but I'm sure theyll have thought it through so its just a waiting game at this point.
I feel you with all your concerns on the state of handheld PCs in general. I'm excited to see where this device category goes in the future because it has a lot of potential. It's technically still early days for PC handhelds, but that's no excuse. I'm looking forward to the legion as well 👍🏽
Very well said I was shocked to find out asus had similar dead zone issues that were software limited on the win 4. There still is no fix. The Lenovo legion has a switch to turn on those back buttons depending on whether or not you are in mouse mode so I think you can simply switch them off.
My SD reader also failed. No SD cards were damaged but they were only recognized intermittently. I picked up my unit on launch and updated bios/drivers/etc anytime they became available. The SD reader failed around 8/19/23. Currently it is with Asus for repair.
I don't understand why Asus sandwiched the SD reader between hot VRMs and heatsinks 😓. Bad design product decision. Therefore, I prefer to buy onexfly.
u never run your ally above 85c ? dude that controller max temperature operation it's 70c so no wonder that he died , i didn't and don't want to use a sd card , have plenty of storage remain from 2tb so i don't care, the 6800u might perform the same for now but do this next year and see the difference
I’m just glad someone took the psp body shell 🤷🏾♂️ that’s what Sony gets for taking forever to make a new psp I love my ally but I love the flip up phone looking psp Great looking device WIN4
Dope video! RIP to the PS Portable line. Not gonna lie, probably going to get the Portal to play PS5 on the couch or bed when the wifey is taking up the TV. 😂
Oculink isn’t proprietary. If ASUS stops making xg mobiles you’re out of luck. Plus they are already way over priced. You can make an Occulink eGPU that can take any graphics card on the market.
i have bad vision so i cant get the gpd win 4, i had the gpd win 2 and i remember the struggle. however i bought the rog ally right at release and except for the sd card its perfect for me
I've heard that the 7840U version of the GPD win 4 apparently is even more powerful than the ROG ally. It and the win max 2 are regarded as the strongest 7840U users on the market currently. Win Max 2 having the best battery life of them all as well
@@leilavergerius9223 the information comes from people who own basically every single recently released handle and do multiple tests on each. Are you reffering to something new coming out or do you just disagree becuase you want too
I have just received my GDP win4 2023 version and I find the screen size is really terrible. I play Bauder gate 3 and the text is so small especially when checking items in the game, basically impossible to read. The fan is also quite loud and get hot so easily comparing to my Rog Ally. I am already selling my Win4 now.
@@HCH-m2w sorry about your experience. How did you get yours so soon though? What was you contribution number? Or did you get it from Taobao? Also I feel like baldur's gate profits more from a bigger screen. Though the keyboard and mouse would have been nice to have with the game
@@namename2040 I pre-ordered it directly from Taobao. It not only chepaer than the Indigogo preorders but also ship fast. GPD alway prioritize the domestic orders frist.
I know this may be a minor part of the video, but honestly I have a lot of respect to see someone actually boycotting something they stand against. I was put off the Ally by the fact it hasn't got the most up-to-date thunderbolt as well, it seems like an obvious sign that they want to drive people to buying their (very expensive) mobile GPUs...
@@BarelyAverageDude I'll keep my fingers crossed that they do a redesign at some point. To fix the SD reader position, and to update to USB 4 (or even oculink, I'm hoping that it's something that picks up since it's a straight PCI slot and would support so many more uses). Honestly- Thank you for your video, it was a massive help in my research for both products. :)
Zelda lol probably too late now. I just ordered one looking forward too it I have the win max 2023. And I thought this would be perfect as it's more portable. The win max has replaced my Gaming rig. And an office laptop. I make 3D drawings and it works perfectly for that. But this mean I can take it into work if needed. But I'm hopping to have the win 4 as my everyday travel companion. I returned both the steam deck and ROG Ally.
I am happy to hear that 😀, I was a little concerned but I have no intention of using it on a bigger screen so the resolution will always be low and I don't think I'll be playing anything that will push it too hard. Still got to wait a few days for it to be delivered.
The only problem with GPD pc that you can't get from normal local shop and you should order it from China? So If you get some problem with the device good luck in finding good coustmer service 😂😂😂
Idk if I'd buy new, but the GPD discord has a marketplace for selling handhelds. Better prices than Ebay, sometimes already modded with better fan, larger ssd.
I have the ally, but will the joystick cap still fit the ally? (Really wanted the win4 over the ally because of the more ports and ram. However the thought of poor customer service scared me off)
😲 rog ally it's so huge compare to win4. I have a win4 (6800u) and it's perfect for ps4/one games. Every game run at 1080p/high/30fps minimum. Even cross gen game like elden ring or resident evil village. After win4 is a little weak for pure next gen game like Forspoken or plague's tale requiem. 20% more powerful rog ally + Fsr2 is enough for 1080/high/30fps in quality mode for next gen game.
So true about the proprietary problem. That’s a big red flag and obvious sign of corporate greed like seen in the repairability laws in the U.S. When we buy these devices they shouldn’t be allowed to limit them!
*Main Question:* Which has more battery life cycle expectancy, the onexfly,lenovo legion go or the gdp win 4? *𝖨 am looking for 6 things when it comes to buying a pc handheld:* *•* Better and faster game performance(No flickering,stuttering or freezes,etc) • Better battery output and capacity • Better game input latency and better game performance latency • Can be docked on a tv or a pc or both • Non or minor bug issues for the pc handheld *•* Gotta have a battery supporter, if i happen to use it a lot while plugged in to a wall socket or a power bank so that it wouldn't wear and tear the component as fast. *-* 𝖨 am also thinking of purchasing a container or casing for it that has drop,dirt,scratch,dust resistance and if possible water resistance if it exists.
I have a GPD Win4 (the 6800U model) and I couldn't be happier with it. It solves all the issues with the Ally in terms of usability when compared to the Deck (which I also own but haven't used much since getting the Win 4) and it delivers the bulk of the features. If and when we see the next step up in performance I would certainly consider the same form factor as my first priority.
I feel ya
The funny thing about the playstation portal is that it still abbreviates to PSP, it like they're mocking us lol.
Lol they knew exactly what they were doing. The onle letters missing in "Portal" are B&E
because it shouldn't be a thing. 😅🤷🏽♂️
do you use wallpaper engine?
Yes. 👍🏽
Great comparison between the two devices and also very informative. I own both if these devices. Asus Rog Ally is ideal when your using it at home.Gpd Win 4 on the other hand is great when your own the go with its compact size.
ROG ally al day had mine since day one with absolutely no issues. I have all 3 BTW ally,win4,steamdeck!!
I have a steam deck and setup dual boot with Windows 11 on an external ssd . I bought the GPD Win 4 6800u and love both .
Nice! 👍🏽
Nonono, u forgot to mention the awful heat dissipation and won’t dial down fan noise even on idle , and the smaller screen and ergonomic is not really for longtime gaming , that’s gpd win 4 . That’s why I sold it .
I really hope, something changes about ROG QA, I really don't know how stuff like the SD Card reader failing and killing cards didn't get caught in their product testing. Same issue with the Asus ROG motherboards ruining the 7000 series amd chips. I don't know whats happening with them right now. If nothing happens we just get shit quality products, before they used to be great. You go to places like the rogally subreddit and they all just say just dont use the SDcard reader and buy a 2tb drives, or they don't use the sd card so it doesnt matter. Thats not the point, GPD for example makes nice devices but support isn't as good, so youd go for the ROG ally but then you find the same issue with a product flaw and bad support.
Other things both the Win 4 and Ally have huge deadzones, they also cannot be modified, I'm guessing both are using the same joystick? Both GPD and ROG are saying theyre working on drivers to fix these issues with deadzones but how can I believe either of them? Theyre the same ALPS sticks that drift, so I'm wondering if for both they intentionally increased the deadzones because those sticks are both flimsy and probably drift a ton.
These are just some of the problems I saw with both handhelds and why I'm simply waiting for a good one to come out. Waiting to see the Legion device, as they make really high quality gaming laptops like asus. The pictures so far look interesting, like how did they design the controller that way without causing accidental presses? Also it comes with a 1600 resolution screen, which for the Z1 can it even make use of it? Of course for portability most people on handhelds are either going to resolutions 720, 800, 900 so I guess it doesn't really matter.
Future problems with the newer handhelds coming on the market, are AMD drivers, GPD is releasing devices with 7640u and 7840u chips in them and AMD still doesn't have drivers out for them after theyve been on the market for so long. Thats ridiculous how products are basically beind sold with no driver support and running worse than last year's chipsets.
These are basically all my thoughts on handheld gaming currently, I'm simply waiting for a good device to come and replace my steam deck. I'm a very happy steam deck user, but man the screen is a letdown and its just huge and bulky. Theres that new 1080p mod display but I dont think its worth it since most games we'll have to downplay the resolution anyways and the color increase doesn't sound worth it...
I hope the Lenovo Legion Device ends up being designed properly and comes with VRR, those buttons on the side of the controller grips look like theyll cause issues, but I'm sure theyll have thought it through so its just a waiting game at this point.
I feel you with all your concerns on the state of handheld PCs in general. I'm excited to see where this device category goes in the future because it has a lot of potential. It's technically still early days for PC handhelds, but that's no excuse. I'm looking forward to the legion as well 👍🏽
Get a steam deck
@@shyrory I have one, don't really use it anymore.
@@shyrory we all have that but its not a handheld so we still want other devices lol
Very well said I was shocked to find out asus had similar dead zone issues that were software limited on the win 4. There still is no fix. The Lenovo legion has a switch to turn on those back buttons depending on whether or not you are in mouse mode so I think you can simply switch them off.
The gpd win 4 is my best device , portability, keyboard is + for me
My SD reader also failed. No SD cards were damaged but they were only recognized intermittently. I picked up my unit on launch and updated bios/drivers/etc anytime they became available. The SD reader failed around 8/19/23. Currently it is with Asus for repair.
Yeah it’s sad. I gave up on the sd card reader. Maybe Ally 2.0 will be better
I don't understand why Asus sandwiched the SD reader between hot VRMs and heatsinks 😓. Bad design product decision. Therefore, I prefer to buy onexfly.
This is why I got the Best Buy extended warranty. If/when mine dies, I go down to BB and swap it for a new one.
u never run your ally above 85c ? dude that controller max temperature operation it's 70c so no wonder that he died , i didn't and don't want to use a sd card , have plenty of storage remain from 2tb so i don't care, the 6800u might perform the same for now but do this next year and see the difference
Mines been mint since it came out
GPD WON 4 CHAMPION
Even though it’s fat. I’d take the win 4 any day. That smaller switch, psp fit is awesome. The deck and rog are so big
Yep! Get a grip if you have a Win 4. Day and night change!
It feels so much more ergonomic! And you can always take it off if you need maximum portability. 👍🏽
I’m just glad someone took the psp body shell 🤷🏾♂️ that’s what Sony gets for taking forever to make a new psp
I love my ally but I love the flip up phone looking psp
Great looking device WIN4
Bro where did u get those side attachments I'm looking for those for a while now cuz it seriously needs it to be able comfortable
Link for both in the video description 👍🏽
Dope video! RIP to the PS Portable line.
Not gonna lie, probably going to get the Portal to play PS5 on the couch or bed when the wifey is taking up the TV. 😂
Lol Sony knew you would need it. 😅
Don’t waste your money, literally buy controlled grips for your phone and play it that way
Gpd Win 4 should get a new display and a Ryzen 8800u when it comes out. Oculink is much more worth it than Asus proprietary design
What display would you like to see?
Complaining about the XG mobile port? You're gonna love the Win4 Pro's oculink port... What a clown.
Oculink isn’t proprietary. If ASUS stops making xg mobiles you’re out of luck. Plus they are already way over priced. You can make an Occulink eGPU that can take any graphics card on the market.
i have bad vision so i cant get the gpd win 4, i had the gpd win 2 and i remember the struggle. however i bought the rog ally right at release and except for the sd card its perfect for me
Nice! Glad you’re enjoying it
I have those grips for the Ally, and I feel they're a bit bulky. If they made a narrower and maybe less fat version of it, it'd be perfect.
ZELDA
I've heard that the 7840U version of the GPD win 4 apparently is even more powerful than the ROG ally. It and the win max 2 are regarded as the strongest 7840U users on the market currently. Win Max 2 having the best battery life of them all as well
nop is not more powerful
@@leilavergerius9223 the information comes from people who own basically every single recently released handle and do multiple tests on each. Are you reffering to something new coming out or do you just disagree becuase you want too
I have just received my GDP win4 2023 version and I find the screen size is really terrible. I play Bauder gate 3 and the text is so small especially when checking items in the game, basically impossible to read. The fan is also quite loud and get hot so easily comparing to my Rog Ally.
I am already selling my Win4 now.
@@HCH-m2w sorry about your experience. How did you get yours so soon though? What was you contribution number? Or did you get it from Taobao? Also I feel like baldur's gate profits more from a bigger screen. Though the keyboard and mouse would have been nice to have with the game
@@namename2040 I pre-ordered it directly from Taobao. It not only chepaer than the Indigogo preorders but also ship fast. GPD alway prioritize the domestic orders frist.
Zelda - Yeah, I echo all of your issues with both handhelds, which is why the A1 Pro is still on top for now.
You’re a real one 💯
A1 pro FTW 🙌🏽
GPD win mini has a 7 inch screen. Ayaneo has slide coming soon to compete with GPD 4. They already have kun to compete with Lenovo go.
I have a Kun pre-ordered and I’ll be getting the legion go when it drops.
What test do you want to see?
I know this may be a minor part of the video, but honestly I have a lot of respect to see someone actually boycotting something they stand against. I was put off the Ally by the fact it hasn't got the most up-to-date thunderbolt as well, it seems like an obvious sign that they want to drive people to buying their (very expensive) mobile GPUs...
Yeah, I can’t support that. Not when 99% of the current handhelds have USB 4 or even oculink which isn’t proprietary.
@@BarelyAverageDude
I'll keep my fingers crossed that they do a redesign at some point. To fix the SD reader position, and to update to USB 4 (or even oculink, I'm hoping that it's something that picks up since it's a straight PCI slot and would support so many more uses).
Honestly- Thank you for your video, it was a massive help in my research for both products. :)
@@UntrainableWizardif the next Ally doesn’t at least have usb 4 I’m not getting it 😅🙅🏽♂️
Thanks for your support, happy to help
👍👍👍
ZELDA!
PSP is more similar imo
Zelda lol probably too late now.
I just ordered one looking forward too it I have the win max 2023. And I thought this would be perfect as it's more portable. The win max has replaced my Gaming rig. And an office laptop. I make 3D drawings and it works perfectly for that. But this mean I can take it into work if needed.
But I'm hopping to have the win 4 as my everyday travel companion. I returned both the steam deck and ROG Ally.
which win 4 version did u get?
the old one sadly the 6800u but it's the 2tb and 64gb ram one
@@WhyplayGaming oooh , don't worry it's not that far off in performance from the newer chips, plus you got all that ram and storage
I am happy to hear that 😀, I was a little concerned but I have no intention of using it on a bigger screen so the resolution will always be low and I don't think I'll be playing anything that will push it too hard.
Still got to wait a few days for it to be delivered.
Zelda and rip PSP great video
🫡 you’re a real one 💯
Are third party oculink egpu docks supported Gpd win 4 ? In example osmeta gk01? Thanks
Thanks for the solid comparison
Thank you for watching 👍🏽
Being able to raise up the screen of the gpd win seems like it would be better. It would be cool if the shoulder buttons were like philips ambilight.
No removable batteries, what a joke with these gaming portables.
They are technically removable, just have to take out a few screws 😅🤷🏽♂️
Screen is to small for full 3d pc games and, my handheld can't be smaller then my cellphone 😅
Zelda
zelda
You're a gamer of culture. 💯👍🏽✅
Or a GPD Win 4 with a 7840U aka Z1 Exteme
thank you for the comparison! found it very pleasant to watch. instant follow
The only good thing about win 4 is pocketable. Ally better performance.
I wouldn't say that's the only good thing, but yeah Ally has about 15% more performance on average.
The win 4 has a working SD card slot 😅🤷🏽♂️
haha never had problem with SD I've had it nearly 3 months@@BarelyAverageDude
the gpd win mini looks interesting though.@@BarelyAverageDude
@@menmabmx1995 yeah definitely! The think the Legion go my be my next handheld too. We'll see
Can't forget the built in key board
The only problem with GPD pc that you can't get from normal local shop and you should order it from China? So If you get some problem with the device good luck in finding good coustmer service 😂😂😂
Idk if I'd buy new, but the GPD discord has a marketplace for selling handhelds. Better prices than Ebay, sometimes already modded with better fan, larger ssd.
Zelda(link) lol
I have the ally, but will the joystick cap still fit the ally? (Really wanted the win4 over the ally because of the more ports and ram. However the thought of poor customer service scared me off)
You’re a real one 💯👍🏽
Zelda
You're a real one.💯
I like this video I want the GPD Win 4 because of it size and buttons and coolness 😊
It’s a great device! Glad you enjoyed the video 👍🏽
rip psp
Legends never die 🫡
Very informative video, thank you very much! Keep it up!
Thanks! Glad it was helpful!
😲 rog ally it's so huge compare to win4. I have a win4 (6800u) and it's perfect for ps4/one games. Every game run at 1080p/high/30fps minimum. Even cross gen game like elden ring or resident evil village. After win4 is a little weak for pure next gen game like Forspoken or plague's tale requiem. 20% more powerful rog ally + Fsr2 is enough for 1080/high/30fps in quality mode for next gen game.
with the new 7840u model of the WIN 4, performance should be the same in the end. The Ally has a huge upper hand with VRR and the 120Hz cap though
I know but I won't buy win4 ....again. Onexfly for this gen for me ☺
@@tomaspavka2014make videos playing call of duty ‼️
zelda
Zelda!
As a new user to the gpd win how should I be using the control panel
I’ve had a gaming laptop before but do I have to download drivers for the win?
@@Espionagoit’s using AMD drivers. You can use the AMD adrenaline app to update to the latest version.
Use it to set TDP, create keyboard shortcuts, and even enable GYRO control
I think your hands are just too big for the GPD WIN4 when you say the ergonomic is bad.... people buying something smaller should know this already.
Yeah. I still think the device is great! I just suggest to get a grip if you have larger hands. 👍🏽
So true about the proprietary problem. That’s a big red flag and obvious sign of corporate greed like seen in the repairability laws in the U.S. When we buy these devices they shouldn’t be allowed to limit them!
*Main Question:*
Which has more battery life cycle expectancy, the onexfly,lenovo legion go or the gdp win 4?
*𝖨 am looking for 6 things when it comes to buying a pc handheld:*
*•* Better and faster game performance(No flickering,stuttering or freezes,etc)
• Better battery output and capacity
• Better game input latency and better game performance latency
• Can be docked on a tv or a pc or both
• Non or minor bug issues for the pc handheld
*•* Gotta have a battery supporter, if i happen to use it a lot while plugged in to a wall socket or a power bank so that it wouldn't wear and tear the component as fast.
*-* 𝖨 am also thinking of purchasing a container or casing for it that has drop,dirt,scratch,dust resistance and if possible water resistance if it exists.
I will have to test the Legion go when it comes out, but it has the largest battery of the ones you listed.
@@BarelyAverageDude
Thanks for the straight forward and swift response, looking forward to it. \(๑╹◡╹)ﾉ
@@BarelyAverageDude
Also i have added a 5th and 6th new point, to the list of necessary features that i want on a pc handheld.