Sometimes it's like somebody makes a video JUST for you. I came here for a simple thing, and learned like 6 other things I've had questions about for years. I even have the 10XU as my main mixer so this was like the perfect demo for me. Thanks dude.
Wow, this was enormously helpful to me. I'm a drummer and I recently bought a full set of drum mics and a 12 channel mixer to create my own mix of the drum kit. I was puzzled as to how I would take that mix into the band's main FOH mixer. Now it's very clear to me, thanks to you and this excellent presentation. I cannot thank you enough. Subscribed !
Just bought a Soundcraft EPM8 sub mixer after running out of XLR inputs on my ZED14. Your video clarified EVERYTHING about how to connect them. Thank you!
Thank you so much for he in depth video. The DI box method is so smart, or I am so stupid that I owned one for years and never thought to use it in this way.
Jordan, you are really good at communicating techy shit in a way that can be understood. That is a gift man! I, like several others who have posted her am a drummer, looking usually for ideas on submixing without loosing processing flexibility, especially in sitches of limited space or equip is limited and you want to fine tune recording. Your teaching style helps my ADHD ass to pick up what you are puttin down! nicely done.
As a roadie I do your last reason a lot. But I'm actually using two desks today because I want to record drums with my USB interface that only has 2 seperate digital inputs. So I'll use the first input to plug straight to the kick drum and the second input out to a second desk recording all of the other drum mics (4) to record the kick drum on a seperate track
Thanks for explained very well and clearly how to use different mixers connect to main mixer , it is very useful especially we are a part time DJ and quiet often we run in to the same problem. At one time, the banquet hall has only microphone inputs for mic 1/2 for house speaker system, luckily brought myself Active DI box use -40db, use XLR cables to mic input and it solve the problem.
Thanks for the great video, I always come to the channel to learn more about mixers, I have a MG 12 XU that I recently bought, and also a Soundcraft Notepad 12FX that I had before, it's nice to follow you explain in human language everything i needed to know about hooking up mixers, i got all my knowledge from your channels, it's great watching your videos and learning how to hook up 2 mixers together with all the other videos Ps, I am an amateur regarding these issues but I am very interested in these issues, What I'm playing with is mixing piano music and vocals that my wife takes care of, along with a choir that she directs and other instruments. Thanks again for great explanations for people like me THANKS Peter Iceland
Thank you for pointing out difference in sygnal from line output to mic input. Not knowing that I could have damage main console. Now I know I should press PAD 25db on both input channels and make diverse PAN.
Great video, but I have just one point of contention. Although many people do it, it is not proper practice to set the fader at unity and turn the gain up till the signal hits zero. If the audience paid to watch the level meters be balanced, this practice would work perfectly. But the audience pays for an entertaining show with full, realistic sound. If gain and level were the same thing, they wouldn't have different names or be positioned differently in the signal chain. The fader is the VOLUME control for the channel. Why would you need a second one? The gain knob is for one purpose only, and that purpose is not for more volume. It's sole purpose is to set the incoming sound source to the optimal level to be best processed by the mixer so that every channel source is at a more managable strength. This is crucial to capturing the true, full sound of the source and of a band. Using the gain the way you demonstrate diminishes sound quality significantly. It is very audible in your video. When you turn up the channel fader on the main mixer, the bottom drops out of your vocal sound completely. Not because your EQs are set differently. They're exactly the same. It's solely because you are losing all of the pleasing sound in your vocal because your channel gain is completely attenuated. No band ever sounds good using this method.
So.. @kettner creative I'm at 4:11 going into this video and am deciding to post this question now (before finishing watching the video). I have a slightly different need than the ones listed. I own a beach club - we have an external bar (four speakers, one sub) outside and we have an internal bar / club that's being fitted out right now (four speakers, one sub). The idea was that on occassion, we might have two different DJ's on the property playing at the same time. Or, maybe a sports special inside and DJ / music outside, etc.. etc.. Far out of my depth, but learning rapidly. The idea we had was to keep the external mixer at the outside bar (mackie pro fx6) which chiefly uses an IPAD for music or a DJ plugs in with two XLR and get an mixer on the inside that could feed the outside mackie pro. Goal being, if we had an event and one DJ inside, the primary mixer could control the entire property. However, if I had music outside and NFL matches on the inside, I could segment that outside mixer from the inside and have the outside speakers / mixer functioning fine and the inside still doing its thing. The primary mixer we were pointed to by a friend for the inside was an Allen & Heath QU-16 - which houses enough inputs for live bands, etc.. and had the capabilities to fine tune everything. Am I wrong in my assumptions? Would love any assistance you could provide.
Do you know how to connect the slave board to the master board and get the aux sends to be part of the main board I believe you have to give up a few channels, depending on how many extra channels you’re running on the slave board.
I was thinking the exact same thing. If you use an XLR to a quarter inch TRS adapter and plug into a balanced 'line in' on the second mixer it seems to me that would perfectly match levels between the two mixers and let you make really long cable runs. Have you tested this yet to see if it works? I need to do the exact same thing and after more than an hour of Googling and TH-cam searching I can't find anyone mentioning this method.
Awesome. Great information. Now how do I get the signal to my powered speakers? Do I go out of the main mixer only and all channels from both mixers will get to the speakers? Thank you.
great video...answered my problem with have a 4 channel xlr mixer and need more channels to run all my drum mics...and im using the yamaha mg10xu mixer too so cool !!! I could use this here method but its still gonna take up all both mixers xlr inputs to mic my drums but at least it will keep me from buying a much bigger and more expensive mixer. I could just buy another yamaha mg10xu mixer and chain then together...not sure if thats the plan yet tho.
think I'm going to do this to act as a monitor controller for 2 sets of monitors. My Mackie VLZ is silent so I imagine another one would be just as quiet with the tape out going into it, giving me separate volume control of both monitors. Quality monitor controllers that don't crap out on you after a year are just too expensive. Hope it works. NIce vid!
Hi, thanks for this video. Very helpful. I'm a drummer who's invested in an 8 XLR mic channel mixer, enabling me to mic all drums plus 2 condensers with the view to send one output to the band's main mixer. Your video explains it perfectly. I gleaned from your video that XLR connectable cables are better suited to output to the main mixer over a longer distance? I envisage my mixer to be most likely near the drum kit for me to access. Can you see any issues with what I've suggested? Cheers
I use the Yamaha MG10XU as my stage mixer to send to my church's PA system. Problem is, they only have one open channel for me. What would I need to do? Connect just the left side and have everything panned left? Or should I get a stereo to mono converter? (BTW, I got the MG10XU after watching some of your other videos on it) :)
I watched your video on "3 ways to Connect Multiple Audio Mixers Together" and I am more confused. First of all I am a total beginner. But I inherited a lot of Professional Sound equipment from my brother who passed away. I got a pair of vintage Electro-Voice BK-315 with excellent sounding speakers. Originally had 200 watt speakers but my brother replaced them with 400 watts each. I also got several mixers. I got a pair of 200 Watts QSC amps. Plus a box of Bose Accoustimass 16 II with a sub-woofer and 7 satellite speakers. I want to set up a home Theater for my TV- set-up Karaoke for my brothers son; my nephew. My wife plays the piano and I sing. I already figured out the set-up of sound for the piano and my wireless Mics. I want to also set-up Podcasting. After watching your video and looking at my mixers; I see ports and plugs that have different names than what you discussed; for instance, 1.) insert, 2.) Low cut 75 GHz. 3.) Aux1 to 4 4.) 2 trim 5.) 2 Trim and 2 TK out. Do you think I still have chance to complete my plans? I'm a 79 year old Senior.
Appreciate this. Running "out" to "in" for mains I managed but what if I'm running stage monitors as well? Is it possible to control monitor volume separately from the foh on the sub board? Basically..if I run a a few mics into the channels on the sub, they have aux control in the line but do I need to also run cable from the aux sends into a separate channel on the main board for monitor control? Tyia. I have no idea what I'm doing 😂
Great video. I think the Yamaha 10- and 12-ch mixers 1/4" inputs are all unbalanced(?) Can you run 1/4" balanced outputs from the sub-mixer into the unbalanced inputs of the main mixer - with a TRS cable? Or do you have to use 2 XLR inputs on the main mixer?
Great video! Thanks for that. One extra reason for connecting two mixers is what I’m looking at: my existing 8 channel powered mixer is too limited. Now I’m looking at the Yamaha MG12XUK, which is not a powered mixers. To avoid having to buy new powered speakers, I’ll just use my Stagepass 500 mixer to connect the speakers to, and feed the new MG12XUK mixer into that. That would work, right? And it gives you another purpose for this video😊
Thanks this answered a lot of questions. So I have 2 small 8 channel mixers. Could I run the drums and bass off one and guitars and vocals on the other? Send both to the foh
I know what is so addictive about audio stuff, it’s the hours of head scratching, frustration, anger then followed by low self worth because you feel like an abject failure.....all gets flipped on its head when you get an “AHA” moment. Thanks..I mean I know these things..but the old brain is starting to forget more than it remembers these days. I have an old sountracs 16 channel mixer with yamaha mg12/4. I’m running 3 old motu firewire boxes to get 16 outs and 24 ins. Motus are patched together..mains outs of 2 boxes into the third..the main outs of the 3rd into the yamaha 12/4. Duh ....of course...the pad switches!!! Forgot they are there..that explains my superrrr hot mix ;) and the tip about left and right panning to retain the mix on the sub-mixer...making rookie errors at 57 sheesh. This was a fantastic reminder. Excellent professional demo..something here for everyone. Liked and subbed.
There’s also another trick to get the aux sends of your slave board to act as though they were on the master board. I can’t remember it, but I used it two years ago and it works like a jem. If you know it, let me know.
I'm glad I found this another video about 2 mixer connected to each other. I plan to use our yamaha mg16xu as sub mixer for my drum mics and connect it to main board alto live 2404 with a distance around 40ft using snake wires with xlr input/output, because our senior pastor wants to have more vocal microphones for the future. I will put the yamaha mixer beside to the drum kit so that I can mix on my own preference. Question, is it okay to plug an auxiliary send from the main board ALTO to sub mixer YAMAHA for IEM system (for me as the drummer) knowingly I'll use the sub mix for my drum mics? Or I'll just use another mixer intentionally for my own IEM system? I am a volunteer in our church and we don't have a sound engineer available. I just learn from my experiences for 12yrs (I started serving thru music since 12 yrs. old). And I'm the one who is also responsible for the mixing and taking care of all the instruments and sound system equipment. Hope you'll recognize my concern. Thank you Jordan and God Bless!
Thanks for the videos, great stuff! Do you think it's possible to connect a JBL Eon Pro One to an external mixer, namely a Yamaha MG06? I can't figure it out! Thanks
It is standard to keep your EQ at the middle on your main mixer. For example keeping the EQ at the middle on the mian mixer and then EQing to your liking on the small mixer?
Thanks for the information very informative, However if I only have TR Cables can I run one from the main out (line) of the sub mixer to a DI Box then to a XLR of main mixer? What can I do if the main mixer nor the DI box has the pad function and I don't have in line connector? Thanks in advance
the first example, only thing i wondered was how did you have sound being heard from the main mixer mic? you had no main outs running did you? was there a usb out? not big deal but i was seeing magic
Thank you for all your videos. Questions? Is it possible to just run my preset mixer from my board out just from the Mono into one of the house mixers channel as a single line? Would that work? Or if I used a L/R cable with an XLR MALE to a open channel/house provided stage DI? Would the sound me weak/bad/ muddy?
Hi there, at the first option at 7:75 you are saying that you take balanced cable, however the stereo line level input on the Yamaha MG10XU is unbalanced (it says Line UNBAL on the mixer) so the actual connection is unbalanced and hence there is no advantage of using TRS (balanced) cables over TS (unbalanced) cables in this situation - am I correct? From practical point of view, I can imagine that the TRS cables may be more commonly available than TS. Also noting that TS cables use different wiring composition and shielding (such as Mogami W2524) compare to TRS (which may use MOGAMI NEGLEX W2534). I would maybe tend to use the TS cable such as Mogami W2524, which may provide better shielding since the line is actully unbalanced.....just an idea. Maybe since the signal is at line level (not instrument or mic level) , there is no need to have it balanced even when going some 25 feet? Not really sure here. I am trying to connect a second mixer that is some 7m (20-25 feet) away from the first mixer Yamaha MG10XUF, but the Yamaha has no more free balanced slots (i.e. channels 1-4).
On the Yamaha the stereo inputs are unbalanced like you mentioned, but for the sake of creating a generic video, we still recommend balanced cables because some audio mixers do have balanced 1/4" line level inputs. We probably could have explained this a little bit better.
@@kettnercreative You are right, for example the much cheaper smaller and older Tapco Mix 100 I have at hand at the moment has all of the 1/4" line level stereo inputs balanced. Quite shame the Yamaha MG series does not have it implemented. Many thanks for responding. Your videos are amazing ;-)
Thanks for the video. Had a bit of a nightmare the other evening using phantom power from a Mackie mixer (for a DPA sax clip on mic) sending to another mixer of a DJ. It was a bit of a rush and we didn't have time for a soundcheck! I used one of the XLR outputs (left I think) and then went directly into one of his channels. We had problems with the level . It sometimes was audible and then it disappeared. Watching your video I think I have already realised that we made quite a meal of it! 🤪But I was just curious if there is anything to take into account when using phantom power. Thanks for your help and God bless!
Thanks for all the info. I have a unique situation where I'm using my main mixer as my stage mix to the house mixer. My main mixer has left and right Main Outputs xlr and 1/4. The other mixer only has one 1/4 and XLR. I'd like to go mono to the other mixer but I'm not sure if I only use the Left channel and left fader of my main mixer to the house if that'll work? Any ideas to connect a stage mixer with 2 outputs to a main mixer with only one input?
Awesome video!! Could I possibly run from a SoundCraft UI12 for drum mics, and into a larger mixer or another mixer like an UI 24? Just to free up space on the main mixer ui24
In all the methods that u layed out here? Is there any concern of phantom power feeding back to either mixer? Reason being is would like phantom power switched on both mixers because both mixers will have condenser Microphones
Thank you for your awesome vids. I am learning so much. My band plays with backing tracks stored on an iPod. We generally plug directly into board, that is located near stage, and let our sound tech control volume while we keep device for starting and stopping during performance. We are preparing for a large venue gig and board will be located far off stage. Would it be wise to connect iPod into an on stage mini mixer, then send the feed out to stage box and on to main mixer?
Great breadth... Could use a little more depth for idiots like me. What are the actual mechanics of the connections? Do you choose ONE monitor-out/aux out to run into a channel strip of the the "main" mixer? Or do you use one is the sub mixer's "main" outs (XLR) into a channel strip of the "main" mixer?
Noisssss Jordan Jeffrey, euhhh I mean John nooooooooooo just joking buddy ! I appreciate your time ! Always noisss when people take their personal time to teach others I like that a lot about people ! Keep it up ! Love your videos
I had opportunity to get 2 Zoom Livetrak L12 and will use it this way, that unit one does vocals and speech, going into one of the stereo ins of the other unit. The advantage is, on one I use a vocal effect with early reflection and reverb and the other with early reflection for some instruments.
Hi! I have a question. Does a DI like the Behringer DI20 work? I think the input impedance for the DI20 is high but the Radial that you show is a low impedance. Does it matter?
Prefer to read? Here's the full article: kettnercreative.com/audio-mixer/connect-audio-mixers-together/
are you using balanced cable on an unbalanced input? right?
Sometimes it's like somebody makes a video JUST for you. I came here for a simple thing, and learned like 6 other things I've had questions about for years. I even have the 10XU as my main mixer so this was like the perfect demo for me. Thanks dude.
100% 10xu user here, too... connected downstream from a Tascam Model 12. Now I want to break out the old Mackie again!
This guy is the best. He answers EVERYTHING and I mean EVERYTHING definitely worth the Sub
You should be nominated for an award! I’ve come to your channel many times and learned a lot! Thank you!
Same here😂
Wow, this was enormously helpful to me. I'm a drummer and I recently bought a full set of drum mics and a 12 channel mixer to create my own mix of the drum kit. I was puzzled as to how I would take that mix into the band's main FOH mixer. Now it's very clear to me, thanks to you and this excellent presentation.
I cannot thank you enough. Subscribed !
Very, very well done! You explained it perfectly and this is quite helpful especially for volunteer media mixologists.
Just bought a Soundcraft EPM8 sub mixer after running out of XLR inputs on my ZED14. Your video clarified EVERYTHING about how to connect them. Thank you!
Thank you so much for he in depth video. The DI box method is so smart, or I am so stupid that I owned one for years and never thought to use it in this way.
Jordan, you are really good at communicating techy shit in a way that can be understood. That is a gift man!
I, like several others who have posted her am a drummer, looking usually for ideas on submixing without loosing processing flexibility, especially in sitches of limited space or equip is limited and you want to fine tune recording. Your teaching style helps my ADHD ass to pick up what you are puttin down! nicely done.
As a roadie I do your last reason a lot. But I'm actually using two desks today because I want to record drums with my USB interface that only has 2 seperate digital inputs. So I'll use the first input to plug straight to the kick drum and the second input out to a second desk recording all of the other drum mics (4) to record the kick drum on a seperate track
I love the way you explaining, in a simple English!!!! ❤
Thanks for explained very well and clearly how to use different mixers connect to main mixer , it is very useful especially we are a part time DJ and quiet often we run in to the same problem. At one time, the banquet hall has only microphone inputs for mic 1/2 for house speaker system, luckily brought myself Active DI box use -40db, use XLR cables to mic input and it solve the problem.
Thanks for covering this. Now it all makes sense!
Super clear and thank you, I loved your pres of all 3 alternatives :) We will use the first simple one, with ballanced jacks.
Just what I was looking for. Very informative.
Very clear and VERY informative video. Excellent lesson!
Thanks for the great video, I always come to the channel to learn more about mixers, I have a MG 12 XU that I recently bought, and also a Soundcraft Notepad 12FX that I had before, it's nice to follow you explain in human language everything i needed to know about hooking up mixers, i got all my knowledge from your channels, it's great watching your videos and learning how to hook up 2 mixers together with all the other videos
Ps, I am an amateur regarding these issues but I am very interested in these issues,
What I'm playing with is mixing piano music and vocals that my wife takes care of, along with a choir that she directs and other instruments.
Thanks again for great explanations for people like me
THANKS
Peter
Iceland
Woooow thanks alot brother, been waiting for this! Lol God bless 🙏
Glad to help
@@kettnercreative thank you so much 🙏☝️
Thank you for pointing out difference in sygnal from line output to mic input. Not knowing that I could have damage main console.
Now I know I should press PAD 25db on both input channels and make diverse PAN.
Brilliant, very informative. Thank you
You saved my ass with these beautiful techniques.
Cheers
great video! simple solutions for this issue....👍🏻
Glad it helped
Mate, I love learning from you. Contents are very educational! Thank you
8:50 damn the gain, channel volume and stereo master is almost maxed out :O
Thanks man, everything I was looking for, plus a little more!!!
Thanks bro I'm learning lot off mix from your video god bless
Excellent educational video. Many thanks.
Thanks bro very useful continue to produce more tutorial videos on that subject or more.
Brilliant video! Very informative. Thanks so much.
This truly helped me. Thanks brother
Great video, but I have just one point of contention.
Although many people do it, it is not proper practice to set the fader at unity and turn the gain up till the signal hits zero.
If the audience paid to watch the level meters be balanced, this practice would work perfectly.
But the audience pays for an entertaining show with full, realistic sound.
If gain and level were the same thing, they wouldn't have different names or be positioned differently in the signal chain. The fader is the VOLUME control for the channel. Why would you need a second one?
The gain knob is for one purpose only, and that purpose is not for more volume. It's sole purpose is to set the incoming sound source to the optimal level to be best processed by the mixer so that every channel source is at a more managable strength.
This is crucial to capturing the true, full sound of the source and of a band.
Using the gain the way you demonstrate diminishes sound quality significantly. It is very audible in your video. When you turn up the channel fader on the main mixer, the bottom drops out of your vocal sound completely. Not because your EQs are set differently. They're exactly the same. It's solely because you are losing all of the pleasing sound in your vocal because your channel gain is completely attenuated.
No band ever sounds good using this method.
Thank You sir for sharing your knowledge, learned a lot!!!
This was very helpful. Thank you
Excellent - thank you
gREAT tutorial!! Ketner rock!! 😊👌
So.. @kettner creative I'm at 4:11 going into this video and am deciding to post this question now (before finishing watching the video). I have a slightly different need than the ones listed.
I own a beach club - we have an external bar (four speakers, one sub) outside and we have an internal bar / club that's being fitted out right now (four speakers, one sub). The idea was that on occassion, we might have two different DJ's on the property playing at the same time. Or, maybe a sports special inside and DJ / music outside, etc.. etc..
Far out of my depth, but learning rapidly. The idea we had was to keep the external mixer at the outside bar (mackie pro fx6) which chiefly uses an IPAD for music or a DJ plugs in with two XLR and get an mixer on the inside that could feed the outside mackie pro. Goal being, if we had an event and one DJ inside, the primary mixer could control the entire property. However, if I had music outside and NFL matches on the inside, I could segment that outside mixer from the inside and have the outside speakers / mixer functioning fine and the inside still doing its thing.
The primary mixer we were pointed to by a friend for the inside was an Allen & Heath QU-16 - which houses enough inputs for live bands, etc.. and had the capabilities to fine tune everything.
Am I wrong in my assumptions? Would love any assistance you could provide.
Nice overview, thanks!
Good stuff. Thanks for covering this thoroughly.
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you so much!! Very helpful!!
Do you know how to connect the slave board to the master board and get the aux sends to be part of the main board I believe you have to give up a few channels, depending on how many extra channels you’re running on the slave board.
I’m wanting to use a separate mixer for a drum mic kit could u do a video showing how to hook them up and what I need to do it thanks
I was thinking about buying a 7 pieces drums set and drums mic. But our main mixer does not have enough entry. Thanks. Great explanation
It really works thanks for the advice
I really like your videos man. Super helpful
Glad to hear it!
Very helpful. You gave me an idea. Thanks.
Glad I could help!
Absolutely LOVE your videos and this channel is ULTRA informative thanks 🙏🏽 for the great content.
Thank you for the kind words.
Very nice information, Thanks Sir
Could you use an XLR to quarter inch adapter and plug that into the line in? Wouldn’t this remove the need for a pad?
I was thinking the exact same thing. If you use an XLR to a quarter inch TRS adapter and plug into a balanced 'line in' on the second mixer it seems to me that would perfectly match levels between the two mixers and let you make really long cable runs. Have you tested this yet to see if it works? I need to do the exact same thing and after more than an hour of Googling and TH-cam searching I can't find anyone mentioning this method.
so well explained..thankyou
Glad it was helpful!
Super useful video!
Hi Jordan, great video, thanks for the work. How can one tell if a 1/4" input/output jack is balanced or unbalaced?
Awesome. Great information.
Now how do I get the signal to my powered speakers? Do I go out of the main mixer only and all channels from both mixers will get to the speakers? Thank you.
This is great ... many thanks!
Super helpfull. Thank you so much!!!
great video...answered my problem with have a 4 channel xlr mixer and need more channels to run all my drum mics...and im using the yamaha mg10xu mixer too so cool !!! I could use this here method but its still gonna take up all both mixers xlr inputs to mic my drums but at least it will keep me from buying a much bigger and more expensive mixer. I could just buy another yamaha mg10xu mixer and chain then together...not sure if thats the plan yet tho.
Man you have awesome videos! very educative thanks a ton!!!
Glad you like them!
Thank you so much great video
great video! i learned a lot thumbs up for you!
think I'm going to do this to act as a monitor controller for 2 sets of monitors. My Mackie VLZ is silent so I imagine another one would be just as quiet with the tape out going into it, giving me separate volume control of both monitors. Quality monitor controllers that don't crap out on you after a year are just too expensive. Hope it works. NIce vid!
Jordan- thank you for your videos!
Glad you like them!
Hi, thanks for this video. Very helpful. I'm a drummer who's invested in an 8 XLR mic channel mixer, enabling me to mic all drums plus 2 condensers with the view to send one output to the band's main mixer. Your video explains it perfectly. I gleaned from your video that XLR connectable cables are better suited to output to the main mixer over a longer distance? I envisage my mixer to be most likely near the drum kit for me to access. Can you see any issues with what I've suggested? Cheers
7:36 Does it have to be a balanced cable or can unbalanced be used as well?
thanks, man. really helps a lot.
Very helpful video. Thank you.
Glad it was helpful!
I use the Yamaha MG10XU as my stage mixer to send to my church's PA system. Problem is, they only have one open channel for me. What would I need to do? Connect just the left side and have everything panned left? Or should I get a stereo to mono converter? (BTW, I got the MG10XU after watching some of your other videos on it) :)
Top explained as always. Ynx
Thanks. Quite clear
I watched your video on "3 ways to Connect Multiple Audio Mixers Together" and I am more confused. First of all I am a total beginner. But I inherited a lot of Professional Sound equipment from my brother who passed away. I got a pair of vintage Electro-Voice BK-315 with excellent sounding speakers. Originally had 200 watt speakers but my brother replaced them with 400 watts each. I also got several mixers. I got a pair of 200 Watts QSC amps. Plus a box of Bose Accoustimass 16 II with a sub-woofer and 7 satellite speakers. I want to set up a home Theater for my TV- set-up Karaoke for my brothers son; my nephew. My wife plays the piano and I sing. I already figured out the set-up of sound for the piano and my wireless Mics. I want to also set-up Podcasting.
After watching your video and looking at my mixers; I see ports and plugs that have different names than what you discussed; for instance, 1.) insert, 2.) Low cut 75 GHz. 3.) Aux1 to 4 4.) 2 trim 5.) 2 Trim and 2 TK out.
Do you think I still have chance to complete my plans? I'm a 79 year old Senior.
Appreciate this. Running "out" to "in" for mains I managed but what if I'm running stage monitors as well? Is it possible to control monitor volume separately from the foh on the sub board? Basically..if I run a a few mics into the channels on the sub, they have aux control in the line but do I need to also run cable from the aux sends into a separate channel on the main board for monitor control? Tyia. I have no idea what I'm doing 😂
Great video. I think the Yamaha 10- and 12-ch mixers 1/4" inputs are all unbalanced(?) Can you run 1/4" balanced outputs from the sub-mixer into the unbalanced inputs of the main mixer - with a TRS cable? Or do you have to use 2 XLR inputs on the main mixer?
Great video! Thanks for that. One extra reason for connecting two mixers is what I’m looking at: my existing 8 channel powered mixer is too limited. Now I’m looking at the Yamaha MG12XUK, which is not a powered mixers. To avoid having to buy new powered speakers, I’ll just use my Stagepass 500 mixer to connect the speakers to, and feed the new MG12XUK mixer into that. That would work, right? And it gives you another purpose for this video😊
Thanks this answered a lot of questions. So I have 2 small 8 channel mixers. Could I run the drums and bass off one and guitars and vocals on the other? Send both to the foh
how to connect neutrik nl2fc audio connection to mixer any help would be appriciated, love the videos
Would connecting a second mixer help with more aux channels for monitors? Or what do you suggest for that?
Thank you very much man✌
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Will this method of hooking up two mixers allow for more auxiliary outputs, for more monitor control and in ears?
I know what is so addictive about audio stuff, it’s the hours of head scratching, frustration, anger then followed by low self worth because you feel like an abject failure.....all gets flipped on its head when you get an “AHA” moment. Thanks..I mean I know these things..but the old brain is starting to forget more than it remembers these days. I have an old sountracs 16 channel mixer with yamaha mg12/4. I’m running 3 old motu firewire boxes to get 16 outs and 24 ins. Motus are patched together..mains outs of 2 boxes into the third..the main outs of the 3rd into the yamaha 12/4. Duh ....of course...the pad switches!!! Forgot they are there..that explains my superrrr hot mix ;) and the tip about left and right panning to retain the mix on the sub-mixer...making rookie errors at 57 sheesh. This was a fantastic reminder. Excellent professional demo..something here for everyone. Liked and subbed.
There’s also another trick to get the aux sends of your slave board to act as though they were on the master board. I can’t remember it, but I used it two years ago and it works like a jem. If you know it, let me know.
I'm glad I found this another video about 2 mixer connected to each other. I plan to use our yamaha mg16xu as sub mixer for my drum mics and connect it to main board alto live 2404 with a distance around 40ft using snake wires with xlr input/output, because our senior pastor wants to have more vocal microphones for the future. I will put the yamaha mixer beside to the drum kit so that I can mix on my own preference.
Question, is it okay to plug an auxiliary send from the main board ALTO to sub mixer YAMAHA for IEM system (for me as the drummer) knowingly I'll use the sub mix for my drum mics? Or I'll just use another mixer intentionally for my own IEM system?
I am a volunteer in our church and we don't have a sound engineer available. I just learn from my experiences for 12yrs (I started serving thru music since 12 yrs. old). And I'm the one who is also responsible for the mixing and taking care of all the instruments and sound system equipment. Hope you'll recognize my concern. Thank you Jordan and God Bless!
Thanks for the videos, great stuff! Do you think it's possible to connect a JBL Eon Pro One to an external mixer, namely a Yamaha MG06? I can't figure it out! Thanks
It is standard to keep your EQ at the middle on your main mixer. For example keeping the EQ at the middle on the mian mixer and then EQing to your liking on the small mixer?
Thanks for the information very informative, However if I only have TR Cables can I run one from the main out (line) of the sub mixer to a DI Box then to a XLR of main mixer? What can I do if the main mixer nor the DI box has the pad function and I don't have in line connector? Thanks in advance
the first example, only thing i wondered was how did you have sound being heard from the main mixer mic? you had no main outs running did you? was there a usb out? not big deal but i was seeing magic
Thank you for all your videos. Questions? Is it possible to just run my preset mixer from my board out just from the Mono into one of the house mixers channel as a single line? Would that work? Or if I used a L/R cable with an XLR MALE to a open channel/house provided stage DI? Would the sound me weak/bad/ muddy?
good stuff brother.. keep up the good work. Peace
Hi there, at the first option at 7:75 you are saying that you take balanced cable, however the stereo line level input on the Yamaha MG10XU is unbalanced (it says Line UNBAL on the mixer) so the actual connection is unbalanced and hence there is no advantage of using TRS (balanced) cables over TS (unbalanced) cables in this situation - am I correct?
From practical point of view, I can imagine that the TRS cables may be more commonly available than TS. Also noting that TS cables use different wiring composition and shielding (such as Mogami W2524) compare to TRS (which may use MOGAMI NEGLEX W2534). I would maybe tend to use the TS cable such as Mogami W2524, which may provide better shielding since the line is actully unbalanced.....just an idea. Maybe since the signal is at line level (not instrument or mic level) , there is no need to have it balanced even when going some 25 feet?
Not really sure here. I am trying to connect a second mixer that is some 7m (20-25 feet) away from the first mixer Yamaha MG10XUF, but the Yamaha has no more free balanced slots (i.e. channels 1-4).
On the Yamaha the stereo inputs are unbalanced like you mentioned, but for the sake of creating a generic video, we still recommend balanced cables because some audio mixers do have balanced 1/4" line level inputs. We probably could have explained this a little bit better.
@@kettnercreative You are right, for example the much cheaper smaller and older Tapco Mix 100 I have at hand at the moment has all of the 1/4" line level stereo inputs balanced. Quite shame the Yamaha MG series does not have it implemented.
Many thanks for responding. Your videos are amazing ;-)
Thanks for the video. Had a bit of a nightmare the other evening using phantom power from a Mackie mixer (for a DPA sax clip on mic) sending to another mixer of a DJ. It was a bit of a rush and we didn't have time for a soundcheck! I used one of the XLR outputs (left I think) and then went directly into one of his channels. We had problems with the level . It sometimes was audible and then it disappeared. Watching your video I think I have already realised that we made quite a meal of it! 🤪But I was just curious if there is anything to take into account when using phantom power. Thanks for your help and God bless!
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If you have to use the 20 db pad for the XLR do you need it for the 1/4Jack output to. Great videos
Thanks for all the info. I have a unique situation where I'm using my main mixer as my stage mix to the house mixer. My main mixer has left and right Main Outputs xlr and 1/4. The other mixer only has one 1/4 and XLR. I'd like to go mono to the other mixer but I'm not sure if I only use the Left channel and left fader of my main mixer to the house if that'll work? Any ideas to connect a stage mixer with 2 outputs to a main mixer with only one input?
Awesome video!! Could I possibly run from a SoundCraft UI12 for drum mics, and into a larger mixer or another mixer like an UI 24? Just to free up space on the main mixer ui24
Hi. I have a DI active with attenuation 0 db, 20 db & 40 db. Can I use it. Thanks. Excellent your explanations.
In all the methods that u layed out here? Is there any concern of phantom power feeding back to either mixer? Reason being is would like phantom power switched on both mixers because both mixers will have condenser Microphones
Thank you for your awesome vids. I am learning so much. My band plays with backing tracks stored on an iPod. We generally plug directly into board, that is located near stage, and let our sound tech control volume while we keep device for starting and stopping during performance. We are preparing for a large venue gig and board will be located far off stage. Would it be wise to connect iPod into an on stage mini mixer, then send the feed out to stage box and on to main mixer?
Great breadth... Could use a little more depth for idiots like me. What are the actual mechanics of the connections? Do you choose ONE monitor-out/aux out to run into a channel strip of the the "main" mixer? Or do you use one is the sub mixer's "main" outs (XLR) into a channel strip of the "main" mixer?
could you do a video on the MACKIE SR 40 8 bus I'd appreciate it
Noisssss Jordan Jeffrey, euhhh I mean John nooooooooooo just joking buddy ! I appreciate your time ! Always noisss when people take their personal time to teach others I like that a lot about people ! Keep it up ! Love your videos
Very helpful thanks
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Great video! Thank you so much
Glad it was helpful!
Nice presentation
I had opportunity to get 2 Zoom Livetrak L12 and will use it this way, that unit one does vocals and speech, going into one of the stereo ins of the other unit.
The advantage is, on one I use a vocal effect with early reflection and reverb and the other with early reflection for some instruments.
9:28 for the second method, do the attenuators have to be of a certain -dB ?
25dB seems to work best.
@@kettnercreative Thank you Sir👍
Hi! I have a question. Does a DI like the Behringer DI20 work? I think the input impedance for the DI20 is high but the Radial that you show is a low impedance. Does it matter?