I haven’t spoken to my pastor because he wouldn’t understand. I talked to the first two pastors I had and they looked at me with suspicion. Then Covid closed the churches. When I finally joined a church I made sure to not explain myself or my situation. I leave the house only for groceries, my doctor appointments, and to take my parents to their appointments and get their medications. One bit of good news is that I started a diet in July and I’ve lost 21 pounds.
The very wide range in the level of training and skill that different pastors have when it comes to pastoral skills in relation to mental health is really something! Well done on the dieting - that really can make a big difference to how you feel about yourself.
Hi, I have felt as you through the past years depressed, not useful and bringing upon my family difficulties not of their making. Thank you for being there and showing me I’m not alone.
Totally agree with you regarding pathologizing depression when it is coupled with circumstances. Wonder how many people around the world are addicted to anti-depressants because of over-prescribed medications? Thanks for making this video Glenn. I appreciate you.
Thank you so much, Stanley. It's a fine line, wanting to acknowledge that there are cases where medical intervention might be beneficial, while also emphasising the circumstantial causes of our feelings and empowering people to change their lives to tackle them.
I certainly appreciate this video, and I can emphasize with you. I hope things improve, and you start feeling better. As for me the answer to the question is both. I was diagnosed with depression at 13. At the time I had lots of friends, I was constantly active, I played multiple sports, I got good grades, and even attended pre-engineering summer school. The doctors started experimenting with different medications and nothing really helped, but they did somewhat change my personality for the worse. After high school I got into drugs and alcohol which then skewed my mental health to the point where I was misdiagnosed, and then wrongly medicated for the next 16 years. Which made me worse and had a negative effect not only my mental health, but my actual emotions. During all the time I had no success in any area of life and continued to use illegal drugs, and the incorrect medications which eventually turned me into essentially a functioning recluse. I had what someone might call a religious experience at 40. I thought I was saved so I quit everything including the medications on the spot. There were some immediate improvements but after about two weeks I was introduced to the concepts of false conversion, fake fruit, counterfeit faith, self reformation, and self deception. I developed some sort of OCD, and I almost lost my mind. And I’m not exaggerating. I thought I was going to have to be committed. I had to seek medical help. I take low doses of a couple of meds that help. So, here I am five years later living with my elderly and sick parents that I take care of with no skills, no job, no active hobbies, no family of my own, no friends, I’ve never had a serious significant other, and I haven’t been to church in a couple of years because I simply can’t and don’t want to deal with being around people and the heaviness of the issues of the spiritual life and religion. Although, I’m constantly thinking and ruminating about my experiences and feelings about all sorts of doctrines most of every day. So, in my case it’s both. I’m sick, and my life sucks, but I’m aware enough to understand that it still could be a lot worse.
Thanks for sharing that, and I'm sorry you've had such a bad run with your mental health. It can be difficult to tease apart causes when there are many things going on, all impacting on each other - initial decisions, harmful substances, wrong drugs, better drugs, social relationships or lack thereof, your own thoughts in response to these situations, etc.
Thank you for the video. I know who you're quoting at 14:04. In many ways, my life is pretty good and I'm not grateful enough. I'm an extrovert, so I do what I can to be social. I have a church I go to and people I spend time with 3 to 5 times a week from that church, I have some family nearby, I'm working a pretty good full-time job, I'm doing alright financially (though it'll probably take me another 4 years or so to pay off my debts at my current pace), I live in a good area, I do a bit of exercise every day, and so on. Still, it's easy to focus on what's missing. I'm 36 and have never been able to find an "intimate partner," so that has been severely painful. I'd like to think that pain is understandable, given that it's understandably tough to go so long without such a deep human desire getting fulfilled, but I've often beat myself up about not being able to find anyone AND for feeling pain about it, which is clearly counterproductive. I've tried a harder this year to change things, but no luck so far and the year is almost over. Also, at 36, I've been really questioning what my purpose even is, so I've been getting anxious about what my plans even are and what my ultimate goals during my remaining time on Earth should be. Given those things, I should cut myself some slack and know it's understandable for me to feel pain about those things, but it can be difficult to not be hard on myself.
Thanks, I appreciate your perspective on this. Those two things are huge - finding someone for you and pondering your purpose. I got lucky with the first, and I've definitely gone back and forth on the second!
Hello! I've had similar thoughts in the past... Am I depressed, or is my current situation so crappy that it's causing me to feel so unbelievably heavy? Or, will the feeling change if the situation changes? Thanks for the video. Best wishes!
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I haven’t spoken to my pastor because he wouldn’t understand. I talked to the first two pastors I had and they looked at me with suspicion. Then Covid closed the churches. When I finally joined a church I made sure to not explain myself or my situation. I leave the house only for groceries, my doctor appointments, and to take my parents to their appointments and get their medications. One bit of good news is that I started a diet in July and I’ve lost 21 pounds.
The very wide range in the level of training and skill that different pastors have when it comes to pastoral skills in relation to mental health is really something!
Well done on the dieting - that really can make a big difference to how you feel about yourself.
Hi, I have felt as you through the past years depressed, not useful and bringing upon my family difficulties not of their making. Thank you for being there and showing me I’m not alone.
You're definitely not alone. You've just described so many men.
Totally agree with you regarding pathologizing depression when it is coupled with circumstances. Wonder how many people around the world are addicted to anti-depressants because of over-prescribed medications? Thanks for making this video Glenn. I appreciate you.
Thank you so much, Stanley. It's a fine line, wanting to acknowledge that there are cases where medical intervention might be beneficial, while also emphasising the circumstantial causes of our feelings and empowering people to change their lives to tackle them.
I certainly appreciate this video, and I can emphasize with you. I hope things improve, and you start feeling better.
As for me the answer to the question is both. I was diagnosed with depression at 13. At the time I had lots of friends, I was constantly active, I played multiple sports, I got good grades, and even attended pre-engineering summer school. The doctors started experimenting with different medications and nothing really helped, but they did somewhat change my personality for the worse. After high school I got into drugs and alcohol which then skewed my mental health to the point where I was misdiagnosed, and then wrongly medicated for the next 16 years. Which made me worse and had a negative effect not only my mental health, but my actual emotions. During all the time I had no success in any area of life and continued to use illegal drugs, and the incorrect medications which eventually turned me into essentially a functioning recluse. I had what someone might call a religious experience at 40. I thought I was saved so I quit everything including the medications on the spot. There were some immediate improvements but after about two weeks I was introduced to the concepts of false conversion, fake fruit, counterfeit faith, self reformation, and self deception. I developed some sort of OCD, and I almost lost my mind. And I’m not exaggerating. I thought I was going to have to be committed. I had to seek medical help. I take low doses of a couple of meds that help. So, here I am five years later living with my elderly and sick parents that I take care of with no skills, no job, no active hobbies, no family of my own, no friends, I’ve never had a serious significant other, and I haven’t been to church in a couple of years because I simply can’t and don’t want to deal with being around people and the heaviness of the issues of the spiritual life and religion. Although, I’m constantly thinking and ruminating about my experiences and feelings about all sorts of doctrines most of every day.
So, in my case it’s both. I’m sick, and my life sucks, but I’m aware enough to understand that it still could be a lot worse.
Thanks for sharing that, and I'm sorry you've had such a bad run with your mental health. It can be difficult to tease apart causes when there are many things going on, all impacting on each other - initial decisions, harmful substances, wrong drugs, better drugs, social relationships or lack thereof, your own thoughts in response to these situations, etc.
Thank you for the video. I know who you're quoting at 14:04.
In many ways, my life is pretty good and I'm not grateful enough. I'm an extrovert, so I do what I can to be social. I have a church I go to and people I spend time with 3 to 5 times a week from that church, I have some family nearby, I'm working a pretty good full-time job, I'm doing alright financially (though it'll probably take me another 4 years or so to pay off my debts at my current pace), I live in a good area, I do a bit of exercise every day, and so on.
Still, it's easy to focus on what's missing. I'm 36 and have never been able to find an "intimate partner," so that has been severely painful. I'd like to think that pain is understandable, given that it's understandably tough to go so long without such a deep human desire getting fulfilled, but I've often beat myself up about not being able to find anyone AND for feeling pain about it, which is clearly counterproductive. I've tried a harder this year to change things, but no luck so far and the year is almost over.
Also, at 36, I've been really questioning what my purpose even is, so I've been getting anxious about what my plans even are and what my ultimate goals during my remaining time on Earth should be.
Given those things, I should cut myself some slack and know it's understandable for me to feel pain about those things, but it can be difficult to not be hard on myself.
Thanks, I appreciate your perspective on this. Those two things are huge - finding someone for you and pondering your purpose. I got lucky with the first, and I've definitely gone back and forth on the second!
@@PeoplesCarpenter I'm glad you got lucky with the first! I pray you find gainful and meaningful employment soon!
Hello! I've had similar thoughts in the past... Am I depressed, or is my current situation so crappy that it's causing me to feel so unbelievably heavy? Or, will the feeling change if the situation changes? Thanks for the video. Best wishes!
Thanks Meg - it's often not easy to tell! I'm glad you stopped by.