Ending is more important than beginning | Krishnamurti
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Extract from the fourth public talk at Brockwood Park, 1980. Watch the full video at • J. Krishnamurti - Broc... ⠀
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The only man that didn’t run away from his silence
Gautama Buddha has been so quite since this was said...
@@saka7228 Haha true JK says it as it’s. Buddha is about wisdom and tranquility. Krishnamurti is about filling the void with emptiness.
Never ever compare enlightened masters
Most of us die before we actually die. We must live before we die. Salute to the master.
We need more conscious souls like him who is not ego driven. There's spiritual ego which is worst of all.
Bro I have this spritual ego I feel sometimes smarter than others just because having a little self understanding 😊
Spiritual ego probably means that the roots of true spirituality are missing
"When there is no psychological friction whatsoever ,the mind never gets old"it is not your mind ,it is human mind"
The dept of these thaughts is fathomless, it makes it almost impossible to comprehend...
As One Is ... introduced me to this path. I am forever grateful for this great mind!
Such a profound talk.
“I am so tired of everything; of the ‘everythingness’ of everything.”
-Emil M. Cioran
living is dying 🥰
Thank You for uploading this valuable timeless treasure.....Thanks 🌻♥️🧚
Thank you Krishnamurti Foundation....
Losing division is the end of ending.
Thank you for this priceless upload.
So great full to Speaker and Uploader. 🙏🙏🙏
Breathtaking!!!
Attachment is the source of all pain and unhappiness🙏🤍🌟
Always so complexed and Powerful! 🙏❤
Excellent! Very contemporary.
The ending is always death, the end of everything. Make rhe most of your journey if you have been given the gift of life on this amazing planet.
what a accurate title..... insightfull
Thank you.
well explained 🙏
So true sir. It heps us to live in reality. The greatest truth.
Danke
Gracias, pez.
deep
لو تترجم للعربية كم اتمنى معرفة اقوال هذا الرجل المتفرد
تكلم عن إنهاء كل أنواع التعلق ، إنهاء التشوش إنهاء التعلق بالأمور المادية أثاث متع علاقات ، وعلى الصعيد النفسي العصبية والغضب والحقد ، متى ما أنهيت كل هذا تأتي البداية ، مت ثم عش ، عش فارغا بعقل البشرية الطبيعية المحبة .
Acknowledging that it was entirely the grace of GOD that I could come out from a life which was totally destroyed by all sorts of sins in all three avenues of character, academics and work, acknowledging that there wouldn't have been a single question even if I would have died or committed suicide, then there will be an ending of begining of a life having no seeking or searching of happiness but the begining of a life surrendered to GOD in all ways.
Namaste
"Living n dying go together ".....
The only video that ends…….
Requires no more clarifications, understandings and insights…..
Everything can remain as it is…..
Then living is d……
No more creating ……. Time….
Of course.
having seeking and searching of happiness
As you feel your self then out of attachedment is not possible.
I understand!
Deep
I do not know how ending is more important than beginning, because both are important. In fact, more than these two, living is important, because that decides, about the new beginning. That means, in Hindi, Srishti, Sthiti and Laya all these three are important. Again this means, Brahma (beginning), Sthiti (living or work in progress) and Laya the end. The end will start a new beginning, this process goes on and on. Here the end is only for the body and not the soul. Detachment, is not possible in this Kali Yuga. Speeches on detachment can be made, but is there anyone, who is detached from everything in this kind of life that we live today. It is described in Bhagavath Geetha by Bhagawan Krishna, that don't get phycologically attached to anything, just do your duty or work and leave the end result to him. Therefore all three are important, because everything or every Karma, has a beginning, living or work in progress and an end. To get detached from these three, then we've to do a lot of Sadhana...
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🌐😍😎🙆 I wonder what happened in his life that made him go so deep in his conversations? I would give my left nut to hear what he would have say about today's world! He thought the world was strange back then he would be in for a real shocker in today's world LOL
Rather confirmation of his darkest premonitions...
Somehow the logic does not add up We exist to express, any form of life exists to express and we express in a dimension of time we express through matter in space or space of time. And life seeks to express its self
Why does it seek to project it's self? Because life has a character and this character can only manifest in time matter and space
There is botany life, animal life and inanimate life
And yes it seeks what it projects through the medium
Life is intelligent intelligence seeks and manifests
Energy will move from a higher vibration to a lower vibration and through the resistance manifests it's character until it circuits back to the source causing a change in the elements it passes through effecting a temporal or permanent change in the
medium. Energy cannot be created or distroyed but in its movement is transformed from one form to another Energy, life, spirit, consiousness, God, whatever you may term it as seeks a medium or atmosphere to express its character
Man in the cycle also does that he has to
If you look at it from a limited space of time it seems to be an illusion but it is
process in totality The process by which we reach the present is discarded
And since we are ever in the present we are always going through process We are seekers and will be always
seekers, that initiates process.
Where is the Beginning and Wher does it End ?
Not ending the bank account is "holding on". We have to account for many tomorrows.
What he talked about living, I couldn’t agree. Living has always been attached with emotions. It is both biological and social construct. It is what makes us human. This could also be seen in many animals “living”. But I do agree that living and dying goes hand in hand. People with time learn that “sab moh maya h” and that life itself doesn’t have meaning but we attach meaning to it. Therefore living and dying is both work in progress. But there are ignorants too who find “dying” at the very moment of death.
he is not saying living in apathy with no emotions rather than the end of thought that creates the emotions. emotions that are born on spontaneity or short time are simply there but humans don't actually live them especially the "bad" ones and they carry them as a memory and can't let go.
@@anestos2180short lived or spontaneous emotions are also part of living. Some emotions takes time to develop and therefore are more attached to a person e.g. love, hate, brotherhood, etc. While other emotions are only short lived or spontaneous with little attachment e.g. anger, disgust, infatuation, etc. While the former is mostly positive in nature the later one are negative.
But all these emotions form a part of living.
Also JK said to end them spontaneously. But what I have found is 'Detachment' is a processed phenomenon i.e. only by observation and processed reasoning one understands that we as a person are all alone in this chaotic world and families, friends, enemies, emotions, material, everything are temporary. This knowledge of our own limitation, finiteness, destructible starts the chain of detachment. So knowledge do get accumulated with time and is the very source of detachment and dying while living.
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one mind
The analogy of flower and fragrance interpreting death n life, goes hand-in hand and it’s always there, was too apt to understand quickly.
And mind is a collective Consciousness as sir mentioned we have chines, Russians, Indian mind, probably mind is just a collective thought bundles
All words say nothing.
You keep the bank account but not the attachment to bank account. How is that even possible? That is fragmentary approach and not holistic.
This is one of the vital flaws of J Krishnamurti.
He may talk about holistic approach but what he suggests is not holistic. "Don't end the bank account because that is too risky" -- and then talk about freedom from risk? 😊
How can anyone be free of attachments. Instead attachments are free - are everywhere caused by our sensory perceptions!
The teaching should be - to practice to void or transcend attachments of all kinds. Whatsoever!
Likewise how to be free from suffering - it's a myth! Why?
Because everyone possesses a physical human body & mind. Which comes from birth, suffers the pains of growing up, ageing, deteriorating health, ailments, sickness and eventually sorrowful death!
If there is no suffering at all, it negates the Buddha Dharmas. And the Buddha need not to teach his Dharma to Mankind!
Due to sufferings, humans yearn to practice and cultivate the Dharmas to lessen Sufferings by awakening themselves.
In truth, suffering is a prerequisite to cause humans to practice, cultivate the Dharmas - to attain self Awakening or Enlightenment! 😊
It's much more profound than your understanding
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