For Honor: Conqueror Realism Analysis pt.1

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  • @lachlan732
    @lachlan732 4 ปีที่แล้ว +357

    But how realistic is the 'RAH!!'

    • @GoGoDani
      @GoGoDani  4 ปีที่แล้ว +291

      Unrealistic. No mere man could generate that much power with their voice.

    • @goldenjebboni1331
      @goldenjebboni1331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Plus, no man could replicate it perfectly without falling down, or maybe that's just me😂

    • @parafoxl7619
      @parafoxl7619 4 ปีที่แล้ว +59

      Some say to practise it, Conquerors spend years in the mountains, only whispering sihle words as their voice, uncontrolled, could bring down the end of the world.
      Sometimes their voices carry down the mountain, calling to them the new dRAHgonborn.

    • @DrPepis
      @DrPepis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Rah, rah, rah, rah, rah!

    • @titosfilippotis7039
      @titosfilippotis7039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@parafoxl7619 FUS RAH DAH!

  • @Jupilead
    @Jupilead 4 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    Glad I'm not the only one having trouble finding a decent looking shield. I can't stand those bulky metal chunks.

    • @shulaclooch8650
      @shulaclooch8650 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      That kinda why I like bp better

    • @goldenjebboni1331
      @goldenjebboni1331 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you have a problem finding a good shield in game, then you shouldn't play with him, cause there are all colors and forms.

    • @funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong
      @funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@goldenjebboni1331 Imagine tryna gatekeep a character over aesthetic differences. Weak.

    • @goldenjebboni1331
      @goldenjebboni1331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong gatekeep, bruh, that hero is OP if a good player uses it, it's not about gatekeeping, what i MEANT is that there are over 40 different shields, it's impossible to dislike each one, come on man, step up and don't be dumb like this.

    • @funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong
      @funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@goldenjebboni1331 You're literally saying people shouldn't play a character if they don't like their customization options. It is entirely possible that, regardless of selection, someone finds the vast majority of a character's customization displeasing. For example: I love Lawbringer, and I'm still disappointed with how many of his armor pieces have stupid-ass spikes, ridges and studs that ruin the simplistic look I like.

  • @gloriousphantom7905
    @gloriousphantom7905 4 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    The funniest part of conq is that he uses a flail, a weapon that requires a lot of skill...he’s a prisoner conscription that was picked because of how brutal he was. Not saying he couldn’t have used it before but I just think it’s funny that the crazy dude uses the weapon that can swing back and kill himself.

    •  4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Maybe thats the plan
      "Lets give this brutal prisoner this weapon that can kill him ;D"

    • @CatharDameth
      @CatharDameth 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Flails are not a difficult weapon to use, especially compared to swords. I don't understand where that idea comes from. If you're not overswinging, you will not hit yourself, pretty much ever, but if you're overswinging a flail, you'd overswing any weapon anyway.
      You don't have to aim at unarmored parts of the opponent, and you don't have to care about edge alignment.
      Flails are associated with prisonners because it's an improvized weapon commonly made in prisons (with a belt and a lock), which speaks volume about how easy and natural it is to use.

    • @elcatrinc1996
      @elcatrinc1996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      maybe he had time to practice in prision

    • @jooot_6850
      @jooot_6850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@CatharDameth That's a fair point. As long as you keep the weapon in constant motion away from _you,_ you'll be fine. From there you can keep clubbing your opponent.
      In reality, a long-hilted mace would work just as well, and honestly would look better in-game, but I get why they'd want to include something as iconic and unique as a flail

    • @alexmercer2743
      @alexmercer2743 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Might be giving the devs too much credit, but I always saw that as intended symbolism. Their trailer even says of the flail, "as dangerous to the wielder as it is to the enemy". That could also apply to conscripted criminals as well, when you think about it.

  • @MrShellbuster
    @MrShellbuster 4 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    HURRAH!" Amazing stuff. I'm glad your voice isn't drowsy and dull. For a small channel you deffinantly got the talent for bigger audience

  • @davidunderscore9916
    @davidunderscore9916 4 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    Idk if this was mentioned at all, but his "flail" is the worst offender in terms of being unrealistic.
    The chain section longer than the handle of the weapon (biggest no-no of making flails) which means he's going to break at his fingers even using the thing. Not only that, but the handles are too bulky and spiky to be held effectively, too. It's honestly stupid.

    • @GoGoDani
      @GoGoDani  4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      These are definitely a lot of good points. I brought up a few of the spiky handles but luckily there are a few that reasonable and don't have any spikes at all (although now that I think about it, conquerors obsession with chains and spikes is a little worrying lmao).
      The flail heads are, for the most part, too large in my opinion. But I decided to not make a note on that due to it already being a long enough video as is, and because we also have a bit of historical depictions of them that size if not a bit larger. But definitely a solid point to mention nonetheless.
      Lastly for chain size, I disagree actually. The chain definitely might be an issue if you aren't wielding it properly. I believe Matt Easton talks about it in the Flail videos I linked in the description, I'd recommend watching those for more info. One thing that he states that length is not just safe, but in other culture with similar flail type weapons, there have been even longer chains. And I agree that if you were to keep the flail in motion and away from your body, it wouldn't be harmful to the user. Thank you for watching and adding to the discussion!

  • @Jadenyoung1
    @Jadenyoung1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I think also when it comes to the flail the psychological factor is also relevant. I mean a dude with a flail terrifying.
    A ball with spikes or a heavy weights in general on a chain doesnt really look appealing.
    Nice video btw! really informative.

  • @phantomace5409
    @phantomace5409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I'll said it once and I'll say it again THIS CHANNEL IS UNDERRATED also I'd love to see you do a video on some more of the samurai characters kensei and nobushi especially

    • @GoGoDani
      @GoGoDani  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Definitely would like to do them at some point. The only thing holding me back right now is time. That, and I am trying to finish all the Knight's first before I start going into other factions. But I like that Ubisoft referenced the Onna-bugeisha in Nobushi's newest signature. That is literally what a historical Nobushi is, which shows what I've been saying that Ubi knows their history. Some one just has to take the time to shine a light on it.

    • @phantomace5409
      @phantomace5409 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GoGoDani oh I definitely understand no need to push yourself to make deadlines I feel like that would really take away part of the charm these videos have I love how in depth you get on the topics and the research you do into them I myself really like this type of content ive always been really into the historical stuff and to see it combined with one of my favorite video games is definitely badass so keep up the good work man

  • @whizper8353
    @whizper8353 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Finally I enjoy this series 🙌

  • @bludripplayz5679
    @bludripplayz5679 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Holy crap I forgot to hit the bell and missed SO many uploads

    • @bludripplayz5679
      @bludripplayz5679 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad I checked the channel to see if you uploaded lol

  • @tristanspencer8471
    @tristanspencer8471 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Highly underrated amazing material here I’ve been waiting for stuff like this for a long time! Amazing work

  • @matthewjohnson4583
    @matthewjohnson4583 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm late but these videos are criminally underrated. Keep them up man

  • @nathanenns7690
    @nathanenns7690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Fantastic work as always, I was wondering when you'd be back!
    As for the content of this video, I had a few things to add - though they'll likely be old news to anyone who knows their stuff.
    Firstly, one of the images that you are using for one handed medieval flails comes from the Morgan Bible to my knowledge (the one with a disc guard and metal shaft) in a scene that is rife with mechanically bizarre contraptions and non-existent weaponry. While this could be interpreted as evidence that flails existed, I find it very unlikely that it's anything resembling an accurate representation of them. That isn't even to mention that the flail's head is the size of the wielder's - in which case it is more likely it would weigh 100 pounds rather than the 1-2 that you'd want out of a mace head (unless it was hollow, I guess).
    If your point is simply "they existed", that would be fair enough given the pictorial representation. However, I'm still skeptical about any speculative use cases people give for them, such as on cavalry in the way you proposed.
    But I guess that's all part of the fun - trying to understand the most mysterious weapon of the middle ages!
    Oh, yeah - Ca-val-ry! Not Cal-va-ry!
    Horses, not Jesus!
    Can't wait for your thoughts on the armor. I, too, wrap a bloody chain around my arms in battle.
    Keep it up!

    • @GoGoDani
      @GoGoDani  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Damnit, I always have a problem say cavalry for some reason lol. I do it with a lot of words where I mix letters together for some reason. My girlfriend hates when I try to say "anti-climactic", because it comes out as "anti-climatic" as if I think the events that unfold before me effect the climate. One day I'll learn hopefully how to speak the English language lol.
      As for the one handed flail that has the disc pommel, I don't believe its actually a part of the Mac bible (if this is the one I think you are saying: manuscriptminiatures.com/3975/11000/ ). It appears to be part of "Besançon BM MS.1360 Bellifortis of Konrad Kyeser". To be completely honest, I don't know what that entire manuscript fully entails as if you were to look at the rest of the folios it appears to show multiple different depictions of weapons of war that either existed or were merely just draw as what could be. Maybe even a Medieval version of a thought experiment for them. Now that specific image with the one handed flail does have two other weapons, one which looks like a bill (more specifically an Italian Bill I think, but as I've stated before, polearms are not my specialty) and some sore of glaive weapon that might be another form of a two handed flail. So considering that there is only one more weapon in the picture that might even be considered real, you would be right to assume that this isn't concrete proof by itself that a one handed flail existed. But if we were to combine that with our other sources, we might be able to see a bigger picture.
      In "BNF Français 2810 Livre des Merveilles", they have not just one, but two depiction of what might be considered a one handed flail. In this image ( manuscriptminiatures.com/4303/9824/ ) we have the rider in the back with what looks like a very basic flail with a wood shaft and no pommel or guard. He is using it with two hands, but just because it's being wielded with two hand I wouldn't consider it a two handed weapon. Although, if you watched the Matt Easton videos I linked in the description (I definitely recommend them if you haven't), then you might've remembered him saying some thing along the lines that the flail is an already much heavier weapon than your average mace. So overall, we might be looking at flails as a whole wrong and maybe there were always meant to be a weapons that might be interchangeable between one handed and two handed.
      Finally, we get a more detailed depiction in this manuscript ( manuscriptminiatures.com/4303/9819/ ) where we can see that they have a flail with an all metal shaft along with a pommel. This shaft seems much shorter as this one looks like it would be exclusively to be used one handed.
      Overall the flail, in my honest and candid opinion... is an impractical weapon. I think it takes way more resources to make than your basic mace could do. I think that it doesn't do much uniquely to warrant making them over any other blunt or percussive weapon. And I definitely believe that they were not very well utilized in most medieval militaries. That being said, not anyone could be an artist and make these manuscripts. And I do believe that they had to be some what familiar to the people, and more specifically the artist of that time to warrant putting it down on record.
      But, to play devil's advocate against myself, art is art. They might've just done it to look cool. After all, Ubisoft decided to go with a flail instead of a mace as well. Humans have a tendency to repeat themselves. We will never truly know what happened back then, unless we were actually there back then. Until someone finds a way to make that happen, we can only make educated guesses based off of what we do know and really all of it could just be conjecture for the most part.
      Thank you for watching and thank you for taking the time to write an in depth comment on the video. Honestly, if I had all the time in the world, and I knew that others would be willing to watch it, I would definitely make the videos much longer so that I could clearly explain all of my thoughts and discuss my opinions in full. But this video was originally meant to be quick, and it turned into a 20 minute event. God knows what would happen if some told me to draw a video out lol. Anyways thank you again for watching and for adding to the conversation, hopefully I will see you again in part 2!

  • @josephrobinson6171
    @josephrobinson6171 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m having trouble finding decent arm armour for conqueror. The default shoulder pads/pauldrons with the chain mail sleeve and leather gloves would be perfect. Unfortunately the chainmail one has big bulky pauldrons.

    • @josephstalin5751
      @josephstalin5751 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree. His customization in general is a little disappointing

  • @DavidLangeYU91
    @DavidLangeYU91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You can really feel the gravitational pull, from the Gustave head, just by looking at it 😂
    Btw. The name reminds me of the heavy Gustav Train canon (Schwerer Gustav Eisenbahnkanone), a german world war two railway canon.
    Gustave head
    Gustav canon
    both look incredibe heavy :)

  • @kapitan19969838
    @kapitan19969838 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    15:18 hey, You're okay mate?

  • @skyhaven8159
    @skyhaven8159 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You put the picture of the crown over the mace head just as I was testing my peripheral vision, so for a brief moment I thought it became an optical illusion.

  • @saiistaken
    @saiistaken 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If the flail is used on horseback, there are a lot of chances that the chain might hit something like a pole of a spear and wrap around said pole, this would result in the conqueror losing the weapon or falling off his horse.

  • @ChadHansen69
    @ChadHansen69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    YESSS
    the only fh character who could go 1-4 and be top of the leader board rip heal on block

    • @GoGoDani
      @GoGoDani  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      [ _Ad Profundis would like to know your location_ ]

    • @ChadHansen69
      @ChadHansen69 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GoGoDani Conq: *cries in gb-able bash*

  • @carltheincels6641
    @carltheincels6641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Do the Testubo next, the Shogoki one

    • @GoGoDani
      @GoGoDani  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm trying to finish the Knight's faction as a whole first, but pretty much all of the Samurai are on my list... Except maybe Shinobi... and Hitokiri

    • @carltheincels6641
      @carltheincels6641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you haven't done the Peacekeeper... Not only do Weapon/armor but also perhaps her Crossbow. And the Wardens (Frag/Stun) Grenades if they did exist

    • @GoGoDani
      @GoGoDani  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@carltheincels6641 The stun grenades unfortunately don't an in game model as far as I know, but the crossbow is definitely a great suggestion. I will keep that in mind for the PK video.

    • @carltheincels6641
      @carltheincels6641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@GoGoDani Also I'm watching Your Lawbringer Ep currently. Wouldn't the Raider Danish Axe be more related to the Poleaxe than the LB's Halberd? Cause a Halberd is a Polarm and a Long/Poleaxe Is an axe. It's just an axe head (mostly bearded) on a long pole. While a Halberd tends to be more tactical, complicated and more versatile. And mostly didn't have it's axe blade bearded

    • @GoGoDani
      @GoGoDani  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@carltheincels6641 Actually a Poleaxe (or Pollaxe, depending on different sources) isn't always an axe. It might have a hammer face or a spike, but still be called a "Poleaxe". That due to the very loose term of what an axe was to the people of Medieval Europe. Now a Dane Axe is very much just an axe. So no spike, or pommel spike, or even really anything on the back of the axe head sometimes. But when it gets to polearms, everything really gets muddled a lot. If I took a Dane Axe and put a dague and butt spike on it, is it a Poleaxe now? By definition, it would have to be. I try to not over think it a lot lmao.

  • @sascha-san
    @sascha-san 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh snap, why didnt I got a message that you released a new Video? But anyways im looking forward for more because I really enjoy your For Honor Realism Analysis, keep going :D

  • @canadiandemo9073
    @canadiandemo9073 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a singular random dude I'd really appreciate a warlord video 🙏

  • @MRSupernova100
    @MRSupernova100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A shame that you didn't include the Magnus's Honor set for the weapon. I'm fairly certain that you would like it.

  • @thebelgianlemon6815
    @thebelgianlemon6815 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    In Dutch, a flail is called 'een goedemorgen' which translates to a good morning.

  • @cyprianperepeczo2653
    @cyprianperepeczo2653 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    -do you have historical source of this weapons?
    -dude in medieval ilusstrations slug were coming out of ass in fire

  • @boybobbybo5794
    @boybobbybo5794 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can we get a emblem tutorial?

  • @sirknighty511
    @sirknighty511 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    And about the dew rag under his helmet

  • @creamsoda8572
    @creamsoda8572 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When warden does crushing counterstrike he says sincombe and Idk what language is it because I tried German Latin and French I did not try Italian but I want to know

  • @nedia8259
    @nedia8259 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks

  • @titosfilippotis7039
    @titosfilippotis7039 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love flails and maces and I dont know why

  • @PinkPrior
    @PinkPrior 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it 😻

  • @huntervicari3486
    @huntervicari3486 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Koreans used a flail staff on hourse back

  • @michagruzewski5592
    @michagruzewski5592 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The problem with flail is that hitting yourselve with it is as propable as hitting an enemy.

  • @tylerfetui3336
    @tylerfetui3336 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did they tea bag fallen opponents

  • @thatdudemetro6271
    @thatdudemetro6271 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    He should have had a mace imo.

  • @TheAusar
    @TheAusar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The last handle looked like obi wans lightsaber.

  • @themayor7142
    @themayor7142 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The game says most of the conquerors are criminals not soldiers

  • @samfish2550
    @samfish2550 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    A advantage to having the spike on the Cunningham handle is that you could defend yourself if your opponent got in to close. Given that a flail would pry be little more than a stick at grappling distance, YA' may as well be useing a pointy stick.

  • @kevinnorwood8782
    @kevinnorwood8782 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please do Black Prior next. If I were playing this game, he and Warden would probably be my two mains.

    • @GoGoDani
      @GoGoDani  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Black Prior will definitely be soon, but the next hero I will determine by a poll. The vote will be in Part 3 of the Conqueror analysis, so that will be your chance to vote for BP to be the next hero in this series. Keep an eye on your notification box!

  • @rickjenks2827
    @rickjenks2827 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    YESSSS lol

  • @bangalicousthegreat8683
    @bangalicousthegreat8683 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Conq is my least favorite

  • @parmesankilla690
    @parmesankilla690 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1st off a flail does not need a wind up to hit hard, and 2nd the heater shield isnt just for defense against an enemy, its in case a swing is missed or for whatever reason needs to be stopped you simply stop it with your shield, the two handed flails btw ive only ever heard them called the peasant flail since it originated from a farming tool.