Starfleet's Sinister Ship You Never Heard Of
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ค. 2024
- The Osler Class Starship is a stealth vessel that Starfleet uses for some of the most clandestine tasks, such as spying along the Neutral Zone, observation of its enemies and the transfer of personnel to the Farm via Division 14 of Starfleet Medical. It's a classified ship with secret missions and let's take a look at its specs and lore.
Chapters
00:00 Osler Origins
00:49 Starfleet Origins
01:51 Division 14
04:22 Specifications
06:19 Summary
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I love how Lower Decks takes itself seriously enough to get the lore and science (at least the fictional science) correct while still being a comedy.
The bit I find disheartening is that Lower Decks seems to have writers that make interesting additions to the lore and understand the series better than the writers for the other modern shows.
The task of intelligent parody and homage requires LD writers and designers to have a much deeper knowledge of Trek lore than pretty much any other show.
It's far better written than the rest. Just goes to show what can be done with people who respect the thing they are working in.
LD writers are stuck in 1990s Trek
@@TheMrPeteChannel I mean, it makes sense - those are the parts of the timeline that the characters have actually lived through.
Also, most live action Trek (just over 50% of all episodes) is from the 90s.
“The Galaxy Class is great but can you make one that looks like an evil shark?”
“Yes. Yes, I can.”
What's funny is that seeing the Osler made me instantly think of the Amun-Ra class stealth ships from The Expanse (great show) which look like evil, black sharks.
@@TheVeritas1 nah is more like a kingon ship shape for the dealing iwth the propeterys of much more privtive cloacking tech sismlear to the much older version of cloaking tech the klingons use. also said klingons also that got from much older out of date cloaking tech the romlains gave them.
Looks kinda 'Dark Eldar,' really. :)
"What are we supposed to do with this thing? It works fine as a low sensor cross section technology demonstrator, but the Andorian Guard said they don't want it back? It's tiny!"
"Well, step one is that we're gonna have to remove all the test equipment. That'll free up some big bays in the center, maybe put some labs in there? Wait, Division 14 keeps complaining about how their Oberth class ships are practically falling apart, maybe they'll take this one as an upgrade?"
I love this ship. We need more Starfleet ships of non-human Origin.
I think this ship shows why the romulans are so protective of their cloaking technology. So much effort and so many systems are devoted to keeping this ship invisible, and it's still so small. Meanwhile the romulans can and do easily cloak ships that are significantly larger with only one system
The fact starfleet knows how to make cloaking devices anyway and just *doesn't use or prototype them because of a treaty* , to the point they go back to 21st century stealth tech just to uphold it, shows how much the Federation values its diplomatic integrity.
I find that Starfleets invested interest in following the treaties is a survival play. If they break one, they are going to get raised to the ground. After all only Starfleet can destroy or create planets on a whim.
To be fair we don't know that bigger ships need only one single cloaking device. They could have multiple ones in place all connected together and it's just pushing one button to activate them all.
@@JohnSmith77777fs Given what has been shown in multiple episodes, it appears to be a module a little larger than a blender.
@@gmradio2436 Did you just imply that Starfleet would get absolutely bodied, and then in the very next sentence, remind us of the easily-weaponized Genesis Device?
This is I think a thinly veiled reference to the black ships from Warhammer 40k.
It's a small but formidable stealth ship that traverses the galaxy looking for people with a "mutation" to bring them to a central location.
To quell the Emperor's munchies.
And the Imperiums never ending need for Sanctioned Psykers
Alternatively starfleet scp. Then again many space problems would probably be scps, like that micro universe in ds9.
It is, the author's profile site mentions his love for various sci-fi franchises, including Warhammer 40,000.
The purple Nebula is definitely "The Warp"
the shape, mission and sinisterness of this ship reminds me the Sister of Silence's Black Ships from 40k.
I've always wondered why we don't see more Andorian, Vulcan, or other Federation world influences in the design of Starfleet vessels. Pretty much all of them have the Earth aesthetic of circular or ovoid primary hull, smaller engineering hull, and nacelles.
Probably because Starfleet ended up largely standardizing things where most of the designs influence each other and keep the same basic profile and it's only when one steps pretty far away from it that things diverge.
At the same time, having a relatively similar silhouette makes it easier to identify as ship as a Federation ship
one explanation could be that Earth being the least advanced of the founding members meant their ships were more readily compatible with the other species' technology with the aesthetic carry over being a side-effect
plus the fact that Earth was the only founding member to commit the entirety of its naval resources to the UFP Starfleet, and that humans are at least a plurality of personnel, might have given them a dominant voice in determining the design language of Starfleet
@@amiscellaneoushuman3516 tell that to Vulcans who prefered to use those warp rings instead of nacelles :P Pride was strong both in vulcans and andorians (but sure vulcans would deny it :D).
I was always under the assumption that the philosophy of the Federation (exploration, diplomacy) was somehow related to its ship design. Whereas most ships of other races would be cheaply constructed and built to accommodate weapons Starfleet ships would be built for speed and to accommodate sensors and passengers.
Most of the Hero Ships in the various series tend to be multi role ships, able to trade fire with known adversaries, carry out exploration, emergency relief missions and diplomacy. Dedicated combat ships, exploration/science vessels and hospital ships all depart from the usual silhouette.
After learning it was an Andorian ship, I could see that general outer hull aesthetic, a central hull with nacelles on the sides, much like their ancient warships before the Federation.
What an interesting and fascinating oddball ship design, role and back-story.
Nicely done - Thanks for this Rick!!
I like to think Pike was a big inspiration for the creation of Division 14. His sacrifice and subsequent radiation poisoning probably led to an outcry to help members of Star Fleet so they could have more than being trapped in a giant pacemaker/iron lung for the rest of their lives.
I always wondered why he wasn’t given a Stephen hawking chair instead, with the eye interface
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat in Retrospective the Chair looks really lousy for SciFo since we already made advancements quite some time ago that give people such severe disabilitys a way better life that what Future Trek showed us. With the slightly odd In-Universe conflict since Hawking was in TNG and he could still use his Hands at that point i think, but still.
But Nobody thought of Brain Infaces in 66 it seems, like they had in VOY - Lifesigns or the Visor in general
@@UCannotDefeatMyShmeat I think the real world answer is that this episode aired in 1966 while Hawking started using a wheelchair in 1968 and lost his voice in 1985, where he started to use that speech computer. At first he was also able to use a button to control it, until his hands became to weak. Interesting tidbit I found while reading up on that, after that, he used a infrared sensor attached to his glasses, and when he would tense his cheek muscles, that would make the glasses move around a little, wich the sensor could detect, replacing the button.
Section 14
Motto " Secure, Contain, Protect"
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Love this
@@kaitlyn__L
Ikr. That joke was great.
"Secure, Contain, Protect, Heal"?
"The Farm"
Always code for clandestine, when it involves a franchise that parallels real world international affairs.
I cia what you did there.
Better than "the village".
Interesting that it was meant to be Andorian. I can kinda see it.
Also, this video is how I found out there's an officially licensed Trek TTRPG, rather than just that unofficial one from the 70s.
i can understand Starfleet continuing the warp 10 experiment. even if it couldn't be used safely by organic life a automated ship or probe could map out the entire Galaxy in detail. every system, planet, civilization, shipyard, fleet deployment and resources everywhere would be known in almost real time and multiple high resolution scans.
even a volunteer pilot would be worth the risk if they could reverse the mutation like the Doctor.
A thing about Star Trek i always find interesting is the scaling... i mean alot of people express the size of most ships to be like flying continents... when really thats grossly exaggerated except for some Borg ships. Like the one hiding in Jupiter.
This ship though being only 200 meters in length and clearly is less than 200 meters wide can actually land on any standard running track. As the straights are 100 meters each as well as the corners entire loop is 400 meters.
I love the pain in your voice for the warp 10 experiment yeah I know that episode is pretty infamous for PLENTY of reasons
A scary black gothic ship rising out of a glowing hole in a space storm, it's poorly lit lower decks filled to the brim with societies maimed, mutated, and unwanted. Gee whatever could this be a reference to? Lol
HMMMM
"Hey we want to covertly transport people injured during secret tests to our hospital planet. We need some super common courier ship nobody would bat an eye at."
"Nah, you can have this hard to detect and rare ship that will be raising suspicion everywhere it is seen."
I figured it was a tongue in cheek reference to the Black Ships of wh40k. Its got the lines of an Imperial cruiser, with that blade prow, raised tower (presumably bridge) and the engines being in the position they are.
That and the fact it only shows up to take "medically erroneous" people away, and they encounter it in a swirling, angry nebula cloud that looks like a 40k warp portal... lol
When I saw that ship I immediately pegged it as an Andorian design 😊
Once in STO however it will gain a battle cloak and a storm generator.
And be put in a gatcha lockbox.
@Corbomite_Meatballs NOooOoOoOO! I still need that Unverse Class Enterprise which is a lockbox ship. I've spent over 500 bucks to try to get this ship and it's a no go still.
My thoughts had been it was like the Black Ships in 40K. A menacing craft stalking around, taking people to meet their terrible fate.
spectacular video awesome ship desing for sure
Sleek design, reminds me of various vehicles from the Tron films
This is Normandy of Star Trek
I had the same thought!
Small correction, Osler is pronounced as Oh-sler (long o sound). Posting from the village of Osler, Saskatchewan (also named for the man)
Looks soo cool for a ship.
Looks like something the Brotherhood of NOD might create.
In the name of Kane
it looks like one of the Blackships from 40k, u know, like the ones that collect the Psychers from imperial worlds.
I would also point out the cracks in the wall next to the door. Suggestiong the vessel is either hard to maintain (no manufacturing facilities, or cant visint one) or voyages can extend extreme times and conditions before it can return to a dock.
i like how this ships applys to stealth isn't always about being able to go and cloak but the abilty to distort what the foes sees . like how our stealth bombers work. you don't need to fool their eyes just not get picked up on radar
This is my take on why the Federation has kept thier agreement on cloaking devices.
One the federation has the technology to crest them themselves or even better ones. So why not do it. I think because as useful has they seem to be they end up been a weakness.
Sure you can close to the enemy ships but Federation sensors are superior by far and will be able to detect you up close.
Usually having coak prevents you from using weapons. Those weapons tend to be less powerful the ship tend to be able to use less warp speed and need maintenance sooner. Because how power draining the cloaking divide really is. All of that has kept the Romulan and Klingon behind the federation
The Klingons soved that issue in the undiscovered country. But since it's original deployment was considered extremely dishonorable the empire never did it again.
Although the Romulans would love to see how they did it.
The federation is capable of even more advanced cloaking technology as shown by the phasing cloak in that one TNG episode. Federation cloaks don't just let you become undetectable, but also allow you to literally phase through materials.
Additionally the Federation is a major technological power, it's better to maintain the treaty of Algeron and just buff the shields and tune the sensors more than it is to have cloaked ships.
The Federation keeps saying "we're not a military" so they don't use cloaking devices since it's a pure military device. They also didn't use mines for a while. A pure military device. Everything military thing on a Federation starship haves a dual purpose. Photon Torpedoes are used to clear debris or asteroids. A phaser can just as easily be used as a giant drill.
"Usually having coak prevents you from hat weapons."
Sir I have played TF2, having a coak does not prevent you from having hat weapons!
@@completelyferrouschemist6776 I see your point. I said usually and don’t put down hat weapons those are the best
NX75300. USS SR1 Normandy.
These are DEFINITELY a reference to 40k black ships. Sleek, mysterious black vessels run by a powerful but poorly known department, which go around collecting freaks from across the Federation delivering them to a rumoured doom.
What a sinister looking design.
Wonder if you would consider a technical breakdown of the Kelvin timeline Vengeance starship at some point?
Hopefully soon ST online can have Osler playable it looks very cool , fingers crossed
So Clu finally found a way out of the grid-world?
Good one.
Can you do The Leviathan Warship Talyn from Farscape please
Respect and keep up the epic work.
The Osler is basically a Starfleet SCP Foundation outpost.
A group of these modded to form a setup like species 8472 combined firing system would be an awesome idea. Adjust the size a bit in needed areas and create a very large front energy weapon that can be combined...oh yeah..planet killer
"This doesn't really look like a Medical ship. Heck, it doesn't even look like a Starfleet ship." (Looks at red and black Evil Ship of Evil) "Do tell."
2:06 Oh, so they named the Farm in the sourcebook? I just figured it was the Baku's planet from Insurrection.
Hello Rick. Would you pls consider taking a look at the Vesta class? The class has been featured in novels and STO, but we've not seen them in action either on Lower Decks or Picard. Thanks =)
Lol Division 14 has a super fancy spa for their test subjects.
Nice ship, but I have a soft spot in my heart for those saucer shapes. Give me a Magee class ship and I'll be just as happy as a clam.
A federation ship build by Andorian engineers... and still it's named with a human/earth name/term. Is there any federation class ship which class is named with reference to other species that are part of the federation?
Reminds me of the design and science of the Normandy from “Mass Effect.”
in all reality the many sharp angles and imposing greabling are detrimental to it's "em profile" otherwise known as rcs. damn thing about as stealthy as a camo painted airhorn
This is an awesome ship not just for it's design and capability, but for how it was changed into an entirely different and wholesome role that actually still works with it's capabilities. In a galaxy or universe if there were no rival species, no real enemies, the people afflicted by various strange conditions on there could probably be put on a nice planet and left in peace to either live out their lives or even find a cure in due time, but in this fictional universe there's plenty of jerks who would want to find at least some of these people to learn what they could about the experiments that changed them to try and gleam what they could for their own nefarious purposes, so as unfortunate as it is, the Osler is a perfect vessel to give them some measure of decent safety and hiding from the rest of the galaxy for a time.
Quick note for this video, the name pronunciation is OHS-ler, that is a long O sound, and emphasized the 1ST syllable.
The "sad blob fish"; that's what you get if you go beyond Warp 10.
Sooooooo this vessel can travel by either warp-speed or THE Warp? Cool, cool.......not a complaint, just an observation. As Emgo316(my favorite Transformers toy reviewer) often says: "Options are GOOD!"
I Just keep hoping for a Chimera class from STO to make its way into the lower decks. It's one of the coolest designs and its built like a transformer thats built out of gun.
FINALLY
The MissingStealth or/and Eloka/Electronic Warfare was always buging me.
Osler class is the very first thing I liked about this show. I would love to see her in a movie.
I do see the dark shark look.
I worked for a large department store as a undercover investigator and the Department was called Department 14.
Osler class stealth system reminds me to the normandy's stealth system
Yeah I just can't stop imaging how much this Ship's Design is how an X Men Space Ship might Look Like, as This Ship's Design Really Reminds me of the X Jet from the X Men Movies, some how. I guess the Similarities is close enough for me? That I could Easley Imagine The X Men Characters being in it and going in to Outer Space to Full Fill A Crucial Mission or something.
Ngl looks like the battleships from the new movie of Space Battleship yamato 2205.
Looks like a ship for Darth Vader and Batman.
Osler died on my birthday... well 73 years earlier but still whst a weird detail
Glad to know I’m not the only one who thinks this. 🙂
So Starfleet does have it's own Inquisitorial Black Ships
Is it the osler type?
It's in the thumbnail 😆
I really do like it; but for some reason I keep thinking its upside down
Cool the ship was named after a prankster, the more you know.
This is something that the Terran empire would have use in the mirror universe.
stealth ship would probably rely heavily on drones to spy so torpedo launchers are a must to deploy them efficiently and quickly.
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Which episode of Lower Decks was this ship in?
Season 1 episode 7, Much Ado About Boimler.
I always wondered why federation members don't have a home defense force
I recall the black ships from Warhammer 40k
Clearly a 40K reference.
USS Nautilus. That's the 25th century you need to cover.
It's really upsetting Section 31's ships shown in Discovery weren't used more widespread. I love the idea of them.
This is what the Batmobile would look if it were to go to space.
Has a Stargate look
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Why would a clandestine ship have a starfleet designation printed on the hull? lol
Starfleet security is at your door
does the treaty aginst cloaked apply to starfleet or the federation? the member states could find a loop hole here?
The Treaty of Algeron is between the UFP and the Romulan Star Empire so Starfleet and all members of the Federation are held to the cloak ban.
After the fall of the Empire, there could be a bit of a quagmire regarding the successor state(s) of the Republic and the Imperial Remnant as to who inherits those treaties and obligations, but I think by the time of "Lower Decks" the UFP (and thus Starfleet) could be technically free and clear to develop cloaking tech and deploy it in that open instead of in secret like Pressman did in "The Pegasus."
@danielseelye6005 Lower Decks starts in 2380 and the destruction of Romulus happens in 2387, so at this point in Lower Decks the treaty is still in full effect.
@@wendyheatherwood Oh. Haven't watched it, thought it was post-Supernova. Alright then.
What is better, the Neblua or the Galaxy-class starships.? Merry Xmas🎅🏻, & Happy2024🎉!
❤LD
Or in other words; Medical Anomalies that the CMO refuses to remedy for any reason.
>lower decks
Into the void it goes.
... So this thing is basically one of the Black Ships from 40k?
Tf there are lower decks books?
To be honest when this ship appeared my first thought was well good bye Boilmer you going to get dissected by starfleet medical.
So a star trek plum island?
A covert infiltration, acquisition, extraction, and transport "medical" vessel.
That whole Friggin Episode Reminded me more of Star Wars and Far FAR less of trek...Dispite it's Refrences to other Shows.
40k reference?
A BLACK ship, shaped like a cathedral, which translates out of a purple thunderstorm in space, and comes to take the "freaks" away to an uncertain fate.
And it looks a bit like an SR-71 Blackbird because… rule of cool? 😅
USS Batmobile
Looks kinda like a 40K human ship.
HEY RICK!
I was watching the DS9 episode S4e7. And after the opening credits, sisko takes the defiant into a gaseous atmosphere. They have to do all these adjustments to the shields and I was wondering if you could talk about Starship capability differences and adjustments in different atmospheres.
Lol The Federations "Black Ships"