Enjoying the series. Very interesting, as well as entertaining. I have a strange attraction for WW1, there were so many different events and industrial progress that changed, some good, and unfortunately some bad that changed the face of modern warfare and tactics which, in modern format and design, of course, are practiced on today's battlefield. Just finished 3, start on 4 tomorrow! Cheers!🍻🇺🇸
Hand grenades do not cause anywhere near the devastation that they do in this movie. In this movie the grenades must be simultaneously ignited next to 100lbs artillery shells.
I agree that Hollywood loves special effects , and a grenade produces no flame but a 100 lb shell (155mm?) would level the top of the hill not just throw a few sandbags into the air. The bodies would be vaporized.
Plus the Germans didn't have K98 mausers for a couple of decades later. All the mauser rifles are way too short and none of the big ramped sight base that the M98's that they had.
My grandfather William was born in 1887. WW1 has remained in his mind forever. The trench, the attacks, the horror of the war. The wisthle, the run out of the trench.... Poor granpa. RIP. MV
Having worked in France for ten years, dealing with the aftermath of two World Wars, I do have to say that there is no possibility of artistic interpretatations being able to convey the real and devastational horror of those times. Artists may be able to sorrow in modern times, but probably only in the interest of their own opportunism... They only managed to get the 'last' of the British bodies off the wire near Croisilles in 1934....
The Film "All quiet..." based on the Book of a German writer. Nothing new in the West is a novel by Erich Maria Remarque, written in 1928, which describes the horrors of the First World War from the perspective of a young German soldier. First published: January 29, 1929
While most ww1 movies derail the battle scenes to focus on the “horrors of war” this scene perfectly nails why stalemates were the worst! Both sides poor their hearts into the fight, only for neither to take any ground, as if throwing meat into a grinder and not actually using it to feed anyone!
Wow these most be the Brittiest Brits ever caught on celluloid. Quoting Shakespeare in a snobby way with thick accent before considering a match of cricket.
The truth is, NO ONE on either side EVER would be able to make it close enough to toss grenades into trenches in the face of withering gunfire and crossing an open killing field.
Sassoon medal description: He went over with bombs in daylight, under covering fire from a couple of rifles, and scared away the occupants. A pointless feat, since instead of signalling for reinforcements, he sat down in the German trench and began reading a book of poems which he had brought with him. When he went back he did not even report. Colonel Stockwell, then in command, raged at him. The attack on Mametz Wood had been delayed for two hours because British patrols were still reported to be out. "British patrols" were Siegfried and his book of poems. "I'd have got you a D.S.O., if you'd only shown more sense," stormed Stockwell.[8]
You silly ass...,you're talking about ONE guy and a VERY unusual set of circumstances. I assure you, had he crossed open field with those grenades running headlong into a company-size volume of gunfire, he'd have been shredded! Stop acting like you've got no fucking sense.
those helmet are adrian helmet issued to the belgian army. They speak english because it's an american show depicting the adventures of indiana jones when he was young.
Samurai Red you notice why all of them got a accent and are called Belgians, because they are “speaking” their language it’s just like a dub for English
wow... everything seems so easy in that movie XD A little charge with a few grenades can suddenly push back numerically superior and well entrenched enemy and three guy can go Rambo on a full bunch of machine gun nests. XD
The French suffered massive casualties early in the war because they relied on the fanatical bravery of their troops who kept charging the machine guns in spite of tremendous slaughter. Entire age groups of young men had already been wiped out by 1918 and they still kept bringing up the new batch of teenagers who fought and died right up until the end.
Could be because you are an uneducated moron who considers it "brave" to enter wars when the enemy is bled white already and you have little more to do to tip them. The French lost 4% of their entire population in WW1, and most of them while people in the US were enjoying their their breakfast bacon every morning.
Oliver H While it's obnoxious and ignorant for Americans today to call the French of that generation cowards, it's also dishonorable to denigrate the sacrifices made by thousands of Americans of that generation who left the safety of their own continent to come and die in France. It was France's fight in a back and forth struggle with the Germans that had been going on for a very long time with the French of past generations often being the aggressors. Dissing Americans for sitting home eating bacon while it went on doesn't really make any more sense than Americans imagining themselves some special breed who saved France. I wish people who really know this history would quit with this kind of back and forth nastiness about it. Seems so sad and pathetic if you think of it in the eyes of the people who actually went through the war.
satidog In WWI, the US joined because the Germans sank US ships and had secret negotiations with Mexico against the US. And a huge part of the US losses were due to unwillingness to listen to advice and insisting on repeating the mistakes the others had learned from already. If you think it's a bright idea to charge a fortified machine gun battery head-on. you get your company pared down to the last man. The US had never been in a conflict like WWI (the conflict in the Philipines is not precisely comparable, neither is the Boxer rebellion) and the majority of troops were green. But instead of hooking up with those who knew the enemy, Pershing had to do his own thing... So not only was the entry not really an altruistic sacrifice in a conflict that had nothing to do with the US, it was the active pursuit of US interests in about the most incompetent fashion possible. In the scene here, instead of trying to send a few soldiers through the tunnels and infiltrating the German positions, the US would just have continued advancing on the ruins and be cut to pieces. While they still might have "won" by having the last five men standing on the field, the "sacrifice" is really one on the altar of jingoistic arrogance of US leaders. The main reason it worked WAS that Germany had already done to itself what it wanted to do to the French: bleed them white and had no chance anymore to compensate for the reinforcements even with the peace with Russia allowing transfer of troops. And that's really the chief point - if you want to honor the sacrifices US soldiers made, starting with attacking that jingoistic arrogance would be a good point. Especially since it's still killing US soldiers almost a century later through the notion of it being beneath the US of A to familiarize itself with the locale and understand the dynamics of the local conflict.
Oliver H Actually, I was quick to point out the stupidity of American jingoism and puffed up pride. But at the same time, you adhere to the most anti-American interpretation of events which, of course, will just inspire more reactionary nationalism and puffed up pride from Americans.
Really enjoying this so far, but why the hell don't they issue grenades before going over the top ? This is now the second assault, then they start issuing the grenades while under fire !!! ... Gripping film all the same !
Grenades were in extremely short supply. Especially the Belgians, who relied on the other allies for supplies.(Edit) Usually the soldiers with the best arms were issued them, they didn't want them wasted.
No. The Somme was purely British with the French on the right flank. The guys you see here are Belgians. The Belgians held the extreme left flank, bordering the English Channel. This must have been towards the end of the war, where the Belgians started to undertake offensive actions. Anything before 1918 was purely defensive.
IIRC it's still supposed to be the Somme battle, they did take some liberties here, which is why his Belgian Company gets thrown in with a French Lieutenant too.
iwant todie I've seen battle scenes from both these films. Zulu was very well made IMO, and Waterloo was seemed quite decent. I heard they were both very historically accurate and good movies, which is excellent. Good on these 2.
I'm seeing alot of hate on this scene in the comments but every comment I read was inaccurate or misrepresented the scene. Relax people this is pretty good.
A good summary of world war 1 was "Modern weaponry and outdated tactics" this was the first war (or at least major war) where modern weaponry was used so there were no proper tactics or military doctrines yet, it wasn't until the end of the war some sort of effective tactics was taken into play and by then Germany had already lost
+lee penlack Not at all, trenches were a key element of a defense much stronger than the offensive capabilities of the classic infantry and artillery combination. When you look at the lenghty and lossful siege of Petersburg in the civil war, you could get an idea of what was to come in WW1. The 19th century style line tactics (albeit modified) were used on the western front only during the first months, after that each side quickly realized how vein and costly those were. Advanced infantry tactics, compact automatic weapons (both examplified with the german strom troops), both employed én masse, and use of tanks (examplified at Cambrai and in the allied counter offensive at the end of the war) would break up trench warfare, but both had not been developed until well into the war.
the stalemate on the lines was not due to trenches, which were very effective defensive structures after the lightening campaigns of the first year, causing everyone to "dig in." Reality of the stalemates was COMMUNICATIONS technology failing to evolve with the rest of the war machine, resulting in commanders not being able to respond to battlefield conditions in real time. Communications...aka the wireless....so commanders could react in real time.
The very simple version is that in both cases Germany was just more prepared, not necessarily "better". In the WWI the population of Germany was nearly double that of France and with greater emphasis on defense instead of attack. Trench warfare overwhelmingly favors the defense. Before WWII Germany had been preparing its military for war for several years. The French and British were mostly unprepared since they had been trying very hard to avoid war (through appeasement).
Everyone is so clean! I didn't know living in a hole filled with water, feces, blood, mangled rotting corpses and urine, soldiers were able to be so...clean. I also didn't realize it was so easy to charge well entrenched and armed troops and just toss a few grenades and break their defense.
THe attack scene in this clip is a great example of infiltration tactics. THe group runs up with a small group sneaking to the edge of the trenches and then raining grenades...
Soldiers are citizens of deaths grey land drawing no devidence from times tomorrows. In great hour of destiny they stand in each of their feuds and jealousies and sorrows. Soldiers are sworn to action they must win. Some flaming fatal climax with their life's, Soldiers are dreamers when guns began. They think of fire lit homes, clean beds, and wife's. I see them in fowled dug outs gnawed by rats and in the ruined trenches lashed with rain. Dreaming of things they did with balls and bats, and mocked by hopeless yawning to regain, Bank holidays, and picture shows, spas. Going into the office and in the train.
Tyrfingr Yeah you'd be correct. But its such an over-generalisation. I mean, if I had to I would serve. And in some sort I have already by being part of the Cadets. Sure, its Afghanistan but we get taught real tactics etc
Very sad! The generals and politicians on all sides have a lot to answer for! My Great Grandad was a Sgt on the Somme and survived but he never got over it!
My Great Grandfather lost his arm after being wounded at the Somme. His wife's brother was killed at Le Quenoy on 04 November 1918 just a week before the Armistice (they were married after the war). His younger brother caught the influenza and was sent home where he died.
I know, this has always irritated me too. It's pretty typical of Hollywood though. Imperial Stormtroopers are supposed to be the best trained in the galaxy and yet they can't hit a barn door.
This film is really unaccurate the german soldier never in this numbers and they wouldn't lose so much men against a bunch of grenade throwing fools the german army hasn't any disciplinary punishment because of desertion as well as escaping from the enemy generally . Because nobody surrendered or escaped from the battlefield and not like the allied soldiers which has immediatly surrendered in the first years of this heroic war.
The German army sat on its collective arse for 3.5 years on the Western front, the only prisoners we took were from trench raids. Germany occupied Belgium and Northern France and it was up to the allies to eject them and that is why we were always attacking and thus losing far more prisoners than the German army. Germany lost the war when the Schlieffen plan failed in Autumn 14, from that point on she knew she couldn't win yet fought on for some perverted sense of honour. German soldiers gave themselves up by the trainload in the last few months of the war when they were beaten. The shame of it is is that we stopped at the Rhine and didn't push on to ravage Germany as she had ravaged Northern Europe and Russia, this gave the Germans the excuse to say that they weren't beaten in the field and thus set us all up for round two in 1939. The Treaty of Versaille really had nothing to do with starting WW2, it was far more lenient than the Treaty of Brest- Litovsk that the Germans forced upon the Russians and this was the type of treaty the West could look forward to if they had sued for peace at any point. Germany could have ended the war at any point by simply withdrawing from her captured territories and paying reparations which would have been pretty light at that point, she chose not to and suffered the consequences, or rather forced untold millions to suffer them.
The thing with Versailles has formed many reasons for war and not only for germany . It has divided nations and more . And we lost WWI because we couldn't have so much soldiers like the allies in this war ( it was a war 20 allies vs 1 hungry german). After the long years of 1914-1916 our soldiers and civilists hasn't enough to eat. Oh and i hope you kow that the german army has attacked min. 2 times per month without all this little charges , our men hasn't only defend like the russians in 1941 no they attacked and died for their country . You should get some informations about ww1 and ww2 before your trying to teaching me the "truth"
To Kre It is true that Germany lost because she didn't have the resources available to the rest of the world but then again what sane government would pledge itself to fight against such odds? There was no honour in it. Just plain stupidity. At most the German army attacked on a very small scale on the Western front,these small scale attacks hardly even registered against the massive and frequent offensives carried out by the French and British, the obvious exceptions being Verdun and the Kaiser schlacht. This is not a criticism of German methods it is simply a recognition of the positions the two antagonists found themselves in; one occupying enemy territory and determined to keep it and the other equally determined to eject them, it follows that one side will be offensive and the other defensive. If a gang of housebreakers invade your house and set up shop in your kitchen the onus is always on the house owner to evict them.
German troops never surrendered or escaped from the AO ? Lol YOU should be the one to learn more. Read about the Allied offensives in 1918. Battle of Cambrai for example. German troops ran away or surrendered soon as they saw British tanks advancing on them.
Oh I am quite aware of that but they are still wearing WW2 German coal-scuttle helmets and not the WW1 ones that were issed in 1916. The prop department made a faux pas.
The Karabiner 98 was used in WW1, the Karabiner 98 Kurz was a completely different rifle built in the 1930's, and was classified as a Karabiner 98 variant to try to hide it from the allies as with most weapons and vehicles because the treaty of Versailles forbid German modernization.
At 6.00 they ran across a very clean battle ground. They must have sent in the ladies with their hoovers to clean it up, so they didn't get hurt when they fell over, pretending to get shot
The Germans in the films are so lousy soldiers thath i must ask why they made it so long (4 years) against the rest of the world.... Or show the films not the truth... lol!
OlinCrazyGamer360 How wrong you are.Serbia wasn't responsible for actions of one terrorist organization in Bosnia and Herzegovina,not to forget teror against Serbian civilians in BiH and in Serbia.A-H monarchy was morally bankrupt empire and it rightfully dissolved.
OlinCrazyGamer360 No,it wasn't responsible.The government, together with the King Peter the first Karadjordjević had no influence on the Young Bosnia and wasn't aware of conspiracy to kill Franc Ferdinand.Only the officer Dragutin Dimitrijević called"Apis"(he was also involved in coup of 1903 in which he killed former Serbian King Milan Obrenović, who was rather close to AH monarchy which highly condemned),head of organisation "Black hand",was close to some government officials .Another thing,AH monarchy gave ultimatum which was specifically made that Serbia couldn't accept all it's terms and would lead to war which AH monarchy wanted for quite a long time, like AH police going through Serbia doing investigation and aresting.No soverign country would accept those terms.Also,I said AH monarchy was morally bankrupt,not disregarding it's economic bankruptcy.So,in the end, assassination of Franz Ferdinand was just excuse for war,not cause.It was excuse for AH monarchy to eliminate Serbia as a threat to it's expansion and in some way it's integrity considering that large population of Serbs lived there (over 2 millions of them), which due to mistreatment by AH authorities and Croatian nationalists which even denied their nationality,were inclined towards the ultimate breakdown of empire.Serbia was inocent in this case and her defense just.
For first offense, going AWOL in the US Army usually punishable with NJP'ing. You might get dishonourably discharged and serve three years. The only time you might face a death penalty for desertion, is in a time of total war, when there is no viable alternative. Even in WWII the Americans only shot one man for desertion and no US service man has been shot for that crime since 1945. In second rate forces, you might get shot, but not in a modern, western military.
Enjoying the series. Very interesting, as well as entertaining. I have a strange attraction for WW1, there were so many different events and industrial progress that changed, some good, and unfortunately some bad that changed the face of modern warfare and tactics which, in modern format and design, of course, are practiced on today's battlefield. Just finished 3, start on 4 tomorrow! Cheers!🍻🇺🇸
Hand grenades do not cause anywhere near the devastation that they do in this movie. In this movie the grenades must be simultaneously ignited next to 100lbs artillery shells.
Hardtop Harry maybe a shit ton of em will
it was a time were movies explsoives were made of pure explodium.
Hardtop Harry I see you didn’t think it might of set off ammunition
I agree that Hollywood loves special effects , and a grenade produces no flame but a 100 lb shell (155mm?) would level the top of the hill not just throw a few sandbags into the air. The bodies would be vaporized.
Plus the Germans didn't have K98 mausers for a couple of decades later. All the mauser rifles are way too short and none of the big ramped sight base that the M98's that they had.
I love the Lazer gun sound effects! Adds to the realism you know.
My grandfather William was born in 1887. WW1 has remained in his mind forever. The trench, the attacks, the horror of the war. The wisthle, the run out of the trench.... Poor granpa. RIP. MV
Big Brother from overseas helped out 2 times. God bless the brits.
So many Wilhelm screams and Dirty Harry-magnum sound effects, lol
Lol yeah
Hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha hahahaha
This makes me want to play Verdun on PC.
Yep it does to me
Battlefield 1 for me
Ik I want verdun for my birthday and this bully's
Get it on ur xbox
It's on ps4 aswell
Having worked in France for ten years, dealing with the aftermath of two World Wars, I do have to say that there is no possibility of artistic interpretatations being able to convey the real and devastational horror of those times.
Artists may be able to sorrow in modern times, but probably only in the interest of their own opportunism...
They only managed to get the 'last' of the British bodies off the wire near Croisilles in 1934....
Dave Hopwood hi
So very sad the war took everthing from us put us on a trajectory to hell
"All Quiet...." remake in the 1970's with John Boy Walton was pretty good.
The Film "All quiet..." based on the Book of a German writer. Nothing new in the West is a novel by Erich Maria Remarque, written in 1928, which describes the horrors of the First World War from the perspective of a young German soldier.
First published: January 29, 1929
While most ww1 movies derail the battle scenes to focus on the “horrors of war” this scene perfectly nails why stalemates were the worst! Both sides poor their hearts into the fight, only for neither to take any ground, as if throwing meat into a grinder and not actually using it to feed anyone!
Wow these most be the Brittiest Brits ever caught on celluloid. Quoting Shakespeare in a snobby way with thick accent before considering a match of cricket.
thats because those two British officers are supposed to be famous poets Robert Graves and Siegfried Sassoon. they even say so in the scene .
Just need to a good cuppa tea
Wanna say that in front of a British person like me you racist git
RyaBeast1 , lighten up Alice
@@ryabeast1908 I don't think British is a race
The truth is, NO ONE on either side EVER would be able to make it close enough to toss grenades into trenches in the face of withering gunfire and crossing an open killing field.
I think it was done more than you think. But at great cost
How much withering gunfire. How long is the open field?
Then why did Siegfried Sassoon receive a medal for taking an enemy trench by himself, only using handgrenades?
Felix Decavel READ what I wrote, you fucking dumbass. "UNDER WITHERING GUNFIRE ACROSS AN OPEN FIELD/"
Sassoon medal description: He went over with bombs in daylight, under covering fire from a couple of rifles, and scared away the occupants. A pointless feat, since instead of signalling for reinforcements, he sat down in the German trench and began reading a book of poems which he had brought with him. When he went back he did not even report. Colonel Stockwell, then in command, raged at him. The attack on Mametz Wood had been delayed for two hours because British patrols were still reported to be out. "British patrols" were Siegfried and his book of poems. "I'd have got you a D.S.O., if you'd only shown more sense," stormed Stockwell.[8]
You silly ass...,you're talking about ONE guy and a VERY unusual set of circumstances. I assure you, had he crossed open field with those grenades running headlong into a company-size volume of gunfire, he'd have been shredded! Stop acting like you've got no fucking sense.
7:25 a genuine Wilhelm scream.
7:25 Wilhelm scream
Trenches were actually real hell.Some of young lads died before they even had a chance to fight
And I love the ricochet sounds taken right out of an older (bad) John Wayne western! Not to mention the sounds of a Star Wars blaster.
That's exactly how it was.........NOT.
BewareOfTheKraut
what you mean???????????????????????
Kaleplays it's us English speaking people can understand
those helmet are adrian helmet issued to the belgian army. They speak english because it's an american show depicting the adventures of indiana jones when he was young.
Samurai Red you notice why all of them got a accent and are called Belgians, because they are “speaking” their language it’s just like a dub for English
How funny is the leading French officer!?!?!? Especially when he says "GRENADES!!!" "NOW!!!!" "DROP YOUR WEAPONS AND COME OUT WITH YOUR HANDS UP!!!!!"
I like how when they capture the trench, there all exhaling hard, but the big guy at 7:40 is like, "That was a piece of cake."
A portion of gateau!
R.I.P people who died at war...
RANDOMROBLOXMAN drafted into the army by tyrants to be killed
@VaIbHaV YaDaV i said this 4 years ago why reply now?
@@arandomyoutuber6634 You are cool
There's no point in romanticizing war. It must stop, once and for all, for it is the reason for our kind's demise.
It's a fucking Indiana Jones TV show you libtard
I like they actually portraited the character of Sassoon :-)
Just proves that given enough time you can turn any horrific mass slaughter of millions into a fun and action-packed adventure for children.
The gun sounds sound like laser guns
It's ricochet
WillsDownhills ???
Old movies lol
Edward Shea From ROBLOX lol.
De beste
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wow... everything seems so easy in that movie XD A little charge with a few grenades can suddenly push back numerically superior and well entrenched enemy and three guy can go Rambo on a full bunch of machine gun nests. XD
Look more like some boy band than soldiers. Look at how long their hair is.
finally. someone else who notes the hair BS.
They're all ridiculously good looking... Just like the real war. Main characters all survive and the mean ones die.
Steve Martin い
There's just something about war movies that were made 1950-1980 that just feel more real and more like you can believe it.
this is from young indiana jones
agis lax yea i just noticed that when i saw the fat guy xD
realism has been thrown out the window with this movie.
the french being brave.....thats a new one for me !!!
The French suffered massive casualties early in the war because they relied on the fanatical bravery of their troops who kept charging the machine guns in spite of tremendous slaughter. Entire age groups of young men had already been wiped out by 1918 and they still kept bringing up the new batch of teenagers who fought and died right up until the end.
Could be because you are an uneducated moron who considers it "brave" to enter wars when the enemy is bled white already and you have little more to do to tip them. The French lost 4% of their entire population in WW1, and most of them while people in the US were enjoying their their breakfast bacon every morning.
Oliver H While it's obnoxious and ignorant for Americans today to call the French of that generation cowards, it's also dishonorable to denigrate the sacrifices made by thousands of Americans of that generation who left the safety of their own continent to come and die in France. It was France's fight in a back and forth struggle with the Germans that had been going on for a very long time with the French of past generations often being the aggressors. Dissing Americans for sitting home eating bacon while it went on doesn't really make any more sense than Americans imagining themselves some special breed who saved France.
I wish people who really know this history would quit with this kind of back and forth nastiness about it. Seems so sad and pathetic if you think of it in the eyes of the people who actually went through the war.
satidog In WWI, the US joined because the Germans sank US ships and had secret negotiations with Mexico against the US. And a huge part of the US losses were due to unwillingness to listen to advice and insisting on repeating the mistakes the others had learned from already. If you think it's a bright idea to charge a fortified machine gun battery head-on. you get your company pared down to the last man. The US had never been in a conflict like WWI (the conflict in the Philipines is not precisely comparable, neither is the Boxer rebellion) and the majority of troops were green. But instead of hooking up with those who knew the enemy, Pershing had to do his own thing...
So not only was the entry not really an altruistic sacrifice in a conflict that had nothing to do with the US, it was the active pursuit of US interests in about the most incompetent fashion possible. In the scene here, instead of trying to send a few soldiers through the tunnels and infiltrating the German positions, the US would just have continued advancing on the ruins and be cut to pieces. While they still might have "won" by having the last five men standing on the field, the "sacrifice" is really one on the altar of jingoistic arrogance of US leaders.
The main reason it worked WAS that Germany had already done to itself what it wanted to do to the French: bleed them white and had no chance anymore to compensate for the reinforcements even with the peace with Russia allowing transfer of troops.
And that's really the chief point - if you want to honor the sacrifices US soldiers made, starting with attacking that jingoistic arrogance would be a good point. Especially since it's still killing US soldiers almost a century later through the notion of it being beneath the US of A to familiarize itself with the locale and understand the dynamics of the local conflict.
Oliver H Actually, I was quick to point out the stupidity of American jingoism and puffed up pride. But at the same time, you adhere to the most anti-American interpretation of events which, of course, will just inspire more reactionary nationalism and puffed up pride from Americans.
Really enjoying this so far, but why the hell don't they issue grenades before going over the top ? This is now the second assault, then they start issuing the grenades while under fire !!! ... Gripping film all the same !
Grenades were in extremely short supply. Especially the Belgians, who relied on the other allies for supplies.(Edit) Usually the soldiers with the best arms were issued them, they didn't want them wasted.
amc3 is it battle of somne?
No. The Somme was purely British with the French on the right flank. The guys you see here are Belgians. The Belgians held the extreme left flank, bordering the English Channel. This must have been towards the end of the war, where the Belgians started to undertake offensive actions. Anything before 1918 was purely defensive.
IIRC it's still supposed to be the Somme battle, they did take some liberties here, which is why his Belgian Company gets thrown in with a French Lieutenant too.
Yeah if this is what you mean then I will say it. They will throw the grenades that's stupid they don't know where to aim
Old war movies are so damn shitty.
Jonathan Allard not realy have you seen waterloo or zulu
iwant todie I've seen battle scenes from both these films. Zulu was very well made IMO, and Waterloo was seemed quite decent. I heard they were both very historically accurate and good movies, which is excellent. Good on these 2.
iwant todie
They're the exceptions more than the rule.
there's plenty of great old war films.
Ramsay Bolton name 3 more
I'm seeing alot of hate on this scene in the comments but every comment I read was inaccurate or misrepresented the scene. Relax people this is pretty good.
Ah, young Indy Series, despite the historical accuracy being way off during the series it captured the times well.
When you really hear what happened in WW1 - 7:46
Bruh
A good summary of world war 1 was "Modern weaponry and outdated tactics" this was the first war (or at least major war) where modern weaponry was used so there were no proper tactics or military doctrines yet, it wasn't until the end of the war some sort of effective tactics was taken into play and by then Germany had already lost
the thing about ww1, it was a modern war, but the generals were fighting 19th century style. trenches were absolete.
+lee penlack Not at all, trenches were a key element of a defense much stronger than the offensive capabilities of the classic infantry and artillery combination. When you look at the lenghty and lossful siege of Petersburg in the civil war, you could get an idea of what was to come in WW1. The 19th century style line tactics (albeit modified) were used on the western front only during the first months, after that each side quickly realized how vein and costly those were. Advanced infantry tactics, compact automatic weapons (both examplified with the german strom troops), both employed én masse, and use of tanks (examplified at Cambrai and in the allied counter offensive at the end of the war) would break up trench warfare, but both had not been developed until well into the war.
Of course the war was fought 19th century style....the war was in the 19th century you twat
BountyHunter115 bruh what
the stalemate on the lines was not due to trenches, which were very effective defensive structures after the lightening campaigns of the first year, causing everyone to "dig in." Reality of the stalemates was COMMUNICATIONS technology failing to evolve with the rest of the war machine, resulting in commanders not being able to respond to battlefield conditions in real time. Communications...aka the wireless....so commanders could react in real time.
This is not an assault: it's a country walk
min 10:14. Super maan
Wrong timestamp mate
This is from " The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles.", 1992. A young Indiana Jones joins his Belgian friend into the Belgian army.
The very simple version is that in both cases Germany was just more prepared, not necessarily "better". In the WWI the population of Germany was nearly double that of France and with greater emphasis on defense instead of attack. Trench warfare overwhelmingly favors the defense. Before WWII Germany had been preparing its military for war for several years. The French and British were mostly unprepared since they had been trying very hard to avoid war (through appeasement).
Gotta love the phaser sound at 11:11
these gunshots sound like star wars gunshots ngl.
9:30 was like a video game level
7:24 rest in peace private Wilhem, werden Sie daran erinhart werden.
Everyone is so clean! I didn't know living in a hole filled with water, feces, blood, mangled rotting corpses and urine, soldiers were able to be so...clean. I also didn't realize it was so easy to charge well entrenched and armed troops and just toss a few grenades and break their defense.
THe attack scene in this clip is a great example of infiltration tactics. THe group runs up with a small group sneaking to the edge of the trenches and then raining grenades...
mikhailv67 Those are the most basic of tactics
All Quiet on the Westernfront was one of the ebst WW1 movies I've seen.
No pre-artillery barrage before an attack? don't think so..
Soldiers are citizens of deaths grey land drawing no devidence from times tomorrows. In great hour of destiny they stand in each of their feuds and jealousies and sorrows. Soldiers are sworn to action they must win. Some flaming fatal climax with their life's, Soldiers are dreamers when guns began. They think of fire lit homes, clean beds, and wife's. I see them in fowled dug outs gnawed by rats and in the ruined trenches lashed with rain. Dreaming of things they did with balls and bats, and mocked by hopeless yawning to regain, Bank holidays, and picture shows, spas. Going into the office and in the train.
i think i stick to band of bothers
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ChrisTheKiller Saving private ryan is the best
ChaoticChr1s Band of Brothers best movie ever
Pacific is another good one.
These are two different wars..
I love the Young Indiana Jones series
Say what you like about today's youth, but they wouldn't put up with this shit.
+john adams I cannot handle how full of shit you are
FireFyfe Thank you for your well considered and thoughtful missive.
+FireFyfe Guess you must belong to the youth :)
Tyrfingr Yeah you'd be correct. But its such an over-generalisation. I mean, if I had to I would serve. And in some sort I have already by being part of the Cadets. Sure, its Afghanistan but we get taught real tactics etc
+john adams
Of course they would. Just the right propaganda machinery installed and let it roll!
That Belgian Corporal reminds me a lot of River Phoenix.
Very sad! The generals and politicians on all sides have a lot to answer for! My Great Grandad was a Sgt on the Somme and survived but he never got over it!
My Great Grandfather lost his arm after being wounded at the Somme. His wife's brother was killed at Le Quenoy on 04 November 1918 just a week before the Armistice (they were married after the war). His younger brother caught the influenza and was sent home where he died.
this is like the ww1 version of saving private ryan
You all forget, machine guns shoot in burst, you can not just gold the trigger down, it would overheat the barrel.
7:25 the scream of the german soilder sounds like the shouting meme
As I Know German Is Never Running From Their Trenches
babang bubiba Then you don't know history.
Watch "All Quiet on the Western Front" for the REAL WWI trench war experiences. This movie is a pathetic joke.
The original is far better than that crappy remake.
***** the AQOTWF 80s remake , Richard Thomas and Ernest Borgnine, is actually --not bad-- for a war telemovie.
But damn nice action film?
Yeah, because the REAL WW1 experience was 100% western front trench warfare meat grinder... It wasnt a WORLD war or anything...
***** I believe he was being sarcastic.
Making going over the bags so easy. two trenches within one day, Why wasn't the war over by Christmas ?
7:25 wilhem scream
The Belgian has a Yankee accent. Even North Americans didn't have Hollywood accents in the 1920s
He is a young Indiana Jones joined the Belgians as the U.S have not declared war yet.
My friends great great grand father was a german seargent in ww1 and survived but was injured at age 18
Why did French speak English the whole film?
So the English could understand
Subtitles ;)
Belgians :)
So the Germans got jealous?
Some could speak it,
we did.
and they loooooooooved it.
hahaha russian SKS bayonet @ 11:28
Lo listos,inteligentes y sabios que son siempre los enemigos de los alemanes en las pelis,jajajajaj,de puta pena
in 1915 ,Prussian best army and UK best Marine
Nothing like they wrote about it. They did write about it. Not just poems. Film makers should read books.
12:03 ALLAH!!!
***** That means God is great, dipshit.
Alexander Tinoco In Arabic, well done.
AntsHolland LP it does kinda sound like he's saying Allah.
😂😂
I know, this has always irritated me too. It's pretty typical of Hollywood though. Imperial Stormtroopers are supposed to be the best trained in the galaxy and yet they can't hit a barn door.
why do germans always have british accents?
***** British actors?
german's had better tech. not overwhelming but better. also their soldiers were more disciplined and apparently given speed to make them more fearless
This film is really unaccurate the german soldier never in this numbers and they wouldn't lose so much men against a bunch of grenade throwing fools the german army hasn't any disciplinary punishment because of desertion as well as escaping from the enemy generally . Because nobody surrendered or escaped from the battlefield and not like the allied soldiers which has immediatly surrendered in the first years of this heroic war.
The German army sat on its collective arse for 3.5 years on the Western front, the only prisoners we took were from trench raids.
Germany occupied Belgium and Northern France and it was up to the allies to eject them and that is why we were always attacking and thus losing far more prisoners than the German army.
Germany lost the war when the Schlieffen plan failed in Autumn 14, from that point on she knew she couldn't win yet fought on for some perverted sense of honour.
German soldiers gave themselves up by the trainload in the last few months of the war when they were beaten.
The shame of it is is that we stopped at the Rhine and didn't push on to ravage Germany as she had ravaged Northern Europe and Russia, this gave the Germans the excuse to say that they weren't beaten in the field and thus set us all up for round two in 1939.
The Treaty of Versaille really had nothing to do with starting WW2, it was far more lenient than the Treaty of Brest- Litovsk that the Germans forced upon the Russians and this was the type of treaty the West could look forward to if they had sued for peace at any point.
Germany could have ended the war at any point by simply withdrawing from her captured territories and paying reparations which would have been pretty light at that point, she chose not to and suffered the consequences, or rather forced untold millions to suffer them.
The thing with Versailles has formed many reasons for war and not only for germany . It has divided nations and more .
And we lost WWI because we couldn't have so much soldiers like the allies in this war ( it was a war 20 allies vs 1 hungry german).
After the long years of 1914-1916 our soldiers and civilists hasn't enough to eat.
Oh and i hope you kow that the german army has attacked min. 2 times per month without all this little charges , our men hasn't only defend like the russians in 1941 no they attacked and died for their country .
You should get some informations about ww1 and ww2 before your trying to teaching me the "truth"
ANTON RUDENHAM Germany only fully paid off the reparations in 2010
To Kre
It is true that Germany lost because she didn't have the resources available to the rest of the world but then again what sane government would pledge itself to fight against such odds?
There was no honour in it.
Just plain stupidity.
At most the German army attacked on a very small scale on the Western front,these small scale attacks hardly even registered against the massive and frequent offensives carried out by the French and British, the obvious exceptions being Verdun and the Kaiser schlacht.
This is not a criticism of German methods it is simply a recognition of the positions the two antagonists found themselves in; one occupying enemy territory and determined to keep it and the other equally determined to eject them, it follows that one side will be offensive and the other defensive.
If a gang of housebreakers invade your house and set up shop in your kitchen the onus is always on the house owner to evict them.
German troops never surrendered or escaped from the AO ? Lol YOU should be the one to learn more. Read about the Allied offensives in 1918. Battle of Cambrai for example. German troops ran away or surrendered soon as they saw British tanks advancing on them.
12:35 Lets count the grenades: ...1,2,3
And now count the explosions: ...1,2,3,4,5,6...
Something isnt right here
Perhaps the MG post had mortar shells stored there or perhaps some dynamite for rigging a retreat
The German soldiers are wearing WW2 steel helmets and not WW1 helmets.
they introduced the steel helmet in 1916
Oh I am quite aware of that but they are still wearing WW2 German coal-scuttle helmets and not the WW1 ones that were issed in 1916. The prop department made a faux pas.
Jeremy Swanson Actually I just took another look and I might well be wrong about the WW1.WW2 issue. I beg forgiveness in advance.
Jeremy Swanson
typical white biy
You are so gay man
10:39
What the...
Germans are using K98 in ww1?
:-D
Yes, that's where the name comes from. Ka(rabiner)98, introduced in 1898.
yes karabiner 98 or gewer 98
The Karabiner 98 was used in WW1, the Karabiner 98 Kurz was a completely different rifle built in the 1930's, and was classified as a Karabiner 98 variant to try to hide it from the allies as with most weapons and vehicles because the treaty of Versailles forbid German modernization.
7:25 imagine willhelm scream
And again somekind of Allied Propaganda film...
why? because they won? there are plenty of German ww1 films you can watch too.
franklin black how do you know he’s Indian he might be Canadian American British French so both of your comments are stupid
I like the movie. I mean I know Germany was justified, but I like history
@@canadathecountry4300 he is a fucking finn :D
I don’t think you understand what a flexible defence is. The Germans were masters of it.
Remember yall. This great show that's better than most TV today is NOT CANNON
Italians
Alby Ross What???
Alby Ross Belgiums
Germans
I recall reading somewhere that this series was too ambitious. It was expensive to produce.
war comedy from ww1 lol:D
At 6.00 they ran across a very clean battle ground. They must have sent in the ladies with their hoovers to clean it up, so they didn't get hurt when they fell over, pretending to get shot
And by the way, Germany made like two major offensives during World War 1, compared to the allies who made dozens.
The Germans in the films are so lousy soldiers thath i must ask why they made it so long (4 years) against the rest of the world.... Or show the films not the truth... lol!
OlinCrazyGamer360 How wrong you are.Serbia wasn't responsible for actions of one terrorist organization in Bosnia and Herzegovina,not to forget teror against Serbian civilians in BiH and in Serbia.A-H monarchy was morally bankrupt empire and it rightfully dissolved.
OlinCrazyGamer360 No,it wasn't responsible.The government, together with the King Peter the first Karadjordjević had no influence on the Young Bosnia and wasn't aware of conspiracy to kill Franc Ferdinand.Only the officer Dragutin Dimitrijević called"Apis"(he was also involved in coup of 1903 in which he killed former Serbian King Milan Obrenović, who was rather close to AH monarchy which highly condemned),head of organisation "Black hand",was close to some government officials .Another thing,AH monarchy gave ultimatum which was specifically made that Serbia couldn't accept all it's terms and would lead to war which AH monarchy wanted for quite a long time, like AH police going through Serbia doing investigation and aresting.No soverign country would accept those terms.Also,I said AH monarchy was morally bankrupt,not disregarding it's economic bankruptcy.So,in the end, assassination of Franz Ferdinand was just excuse for war,not cause.It was excuse for AH monarchy to eliminate Serbia as a threat to it's expansion and in some way it's integrity considering that large population of Serbs lived there (over 2 millions of them), which due to mistreatment by AH authorities and Croatian nationalists which even denied their nationality,were inclined towards the ultimate breakdown of empire.Serbia was inocent in this case and her defense just.
chromburns je
Why are the Allies using German Stielhandgranates? I thought they had their own Mills Bombs, F.1s, and Mk Is back then.
viva german
hmizoo anaaa ???
ice to ctualy see something about our brave lad in the trenches..a belgian
loool ; Frenchs speack english now ???
WTF...
its a movie
Jolly good show chaps, how about a cup of Earl Grey and perhaps a Cucumber sandwich?
Was ein scheiß Film
I never knew the brits used potato mashers.
For first offense, going AWOL in the US Army usually punishable with NJP'ing. You might get dishonourably discharged and serve three years.
The only time you might face a death penalty for desertion, is in a time of total war, when there is no viable alternative. Even in WWII the Americans only shot one man for desertion and no US service man has been shot for that crime since 1945.
In second rate forces, you might get shot, but not in a modern, western military.
funny how the germens were using the ww2 kar98k instead of the ww1 mauser gewehr 98
Not so bad ?! the name of this flick is Trenches ? Howard White
I see what you mean but america did a big contribution and helped a lot in changing the tide of war.
What ever happened to shields?? It seems like one of those Spartan numbers might've been helpful
Probably forgot what shields were
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