Swan Lake, and this theme in particular, carries a lot of very special, personal connotations for me, and I must confess that I got teary-eyed listening to your mockup. Thank you very much for your work. I think that you did this library more than justice, being able to evoke such emotions in someone.
@@trinketstoadsymphony2070 Then let me say five months later that I’ve been coming back time and time again to listen, and that my words still ring very true! You have a real gift. Thanks for your hard work and please never stop making music!
I must add that you achieved great color and realism throughout the orchestra, especially the brass. and low brass. I am more and more sure that with a job well done and in detail it is possible to listen to a more real midi orchestra. Congratulations
Just as a matter of interest, one of the times I performed this as a member of an amateur orchestra, the orchestra concerned was playing the whole Swan Lake suite, as the final item in the concert. One slight problem - they couldn't get the score for the Finale for love or for money ANYWHERE in the world (this was back in 1983, so don't suggest Google). And you couldn't play the suite as the last item of a concert without playing the Finale! So, as a last resort, the conductor and the leader (they were brothers) approached me, and asked me if I could score it out for the orchestra, from a record. Yes, a vinyl record. (I have Absolute Pitch). I copied it to a cassette tape, and life for the next week became an unending series of Stop-Reverse-Stop-Play-Scribble-Whiteout-Scribble-Reverse-Stop-Play-Stop-Reverse-Stop-Play..... When I handed that score to the conductor concerned a week later, his face looked like what I imagine Moses's face must have looked like when he beheld the Red Sea parting! So here's a challenge to you: Would you dare to play the Finale from Swan Lake, in Core!? I'm sure you could do it justice, if what i hear on your channel is anything to go by!
Wow beautiful story! Sure, I’m working on a series of different mock-ups and original composition and I can add that as it is one of my favourite ballets (saw that live at the opera theatre in Rome in 2019 and it was incredible)
I'm strongly considering buying BBCSO Core in the near future. (Sad I missed the sale though). I've been unsure of the brass, but here you make that section sound quite powerful! Did you have to do any sort of tricks to get the brass section to sound like that?
Hey Brandon, thank you very much for your comment, I'm happy to hear that! The brass is definitely not as powerful and cinematic as you would find in other libraries and it is more suited for late romantic to golden age writing. In order to obtain powerful/brassy lines you will definitely need to think about orchestration instead of using something like a 12 horns or 6 trombones patch, and this is not necessarily a bad thing (actually it is something that I really enjoy doing). As far as I am concerned I love the tone even if it comes with some shortcomings as pretty audible dynamic cross-fades between layers (but I think they are going to fix that to some extent in the upcoming update as well as adding muted articulations and updated legatos). I would suggest that you wait until the next 25%/40% discount (I bought it25% down) since at 220/300€ this is a real bargain. In this particular piece I have layered the 4 horns (long articulation) with a solo horn (marcato articulation) in order to obtain more bite.
@@trinketstoadsymphony2070 thank you for the advice! I have much to learn and these kinds of pointers will surely help me on my way! I've seen that video by Paul Thompson floating around, but haven't yet watched it, so I'll be sure to do so. I'm worried about waiting to make the purchase simply because I think this library will be incredibly helpful for my next film score project, but I'll probably have to start working on that at least by the end of March.
You're welcome Brandon, if I were you I would wait until March to see if this goes back on sale (if I'm not mistaken they usually have spring sales). But even at 450€ this is absolutely worth it
HI, congratulations for this fabulous mockup.... I hope the SPITFIRE AUDIO team listened to your great work. Could you upload the MIDI files again. The link has expired. Bravo again!! Christian ( from France)
I'm very late to the party. This is an incredible piece of work, hard to believe this is BBC SO Core. Can I ask a quick technical question? It is interesting to see in the Cubase file that you have boosted many of the VI instruments to 200% (or above 100% anyway). Do you do this as a matter if course, or is that specific to this piece?
The inelasticity of the tempo is a bit of a give away to how this was done, and the orchestral balance is unnatural at times (a conductor would have worked that out). Otherwise, the sounds are surprisingly good.
I'll start with the grizzle: Did the video actually HAVE to be blurred outside the centre? Annoying, especially when you're trying to actually follow what's happening. Now the good stuff: This is a piece I have known since childhood, and have played as a member of amateur orchestras. If there was no picture and no mention of "BBCSO Core", I would not have known, at first listen, that this was a Software orchestra. I loved this. Thanks for posting.
I liked the tilt-shift effect but I brought it too far lol, this was the first video of a midi performance I edited but if you want to follow what’s happening more precisely you can download the midi files (link in the description). Anyway, thanks a lot for your kind words Craig! Much appreciated
@@trinketstoadsymphony2070 Not a problem. And other people in the comments have liked what I didn't like. And fair enough. Anyway, the important thing is, the music. I was very impressed by what I heard. After I commented, I went to your channel, had a look what else you'd done, and I subscribed.
@@trinketstoadsymphony2070 Not a problem! I noticed you'd subscribed to my channel. Many Thanks! You may have noticed in my most recent post, Electronic Cathedral, about 3/5 of the way in, there was a page of orchestral score. That piece of music, composed by myself, is the reason I am interested in Core. (Though I would have to find a Cor Anglais, some solo violas and some solo cellos from somewhere else). I'd also have to find some - er, what did they call it? Oh yes! Money.
Great job, sounds wonderful! Beginner question: Did you program the notes, or play them in with a keyboard? Tried the latter, was very hard to do. And how did you realize Tempo changes?
Thank you very much Volker! I played almost all the notes (with the exception of some harp apeggios) with a midi keyboard, the tempo changes were realized automating the tempo track (if you use cubase you first need to add the tempo track and then you can easily automate it left-clicking on it)
20 secs in; Dude, try using the legato patch with overlapping notes i.e. Pull the end of the notes so they pass over the start of the next, the difference is jaw dropping especially with the solo flute!
The depth of sound is really nice
Swan Lake, and this theme in particular, carries a lot of very special, personal connotations for me, and I must confess that I got teary-eyed listening to your mockup. Thank you very much for your work. I think that you did this library more than justice, being able to evoke such emotions in someone.
Wow Michael, thank you so much for your words! This is one of the best comments (if not the best) I’ve received on any video.
@@trinketstoadsymphony2070 Then let me say five months later that I’ve been coming back time and time again to listen, and that my words still ring very true! You have a real gift. Thanks for your hard work and please never stop making music!
Truly superb! I've just purchased BBC SO and now feel fully inspired - thank you!
Great job! Very natural sound👍
Phenomenal piece of music and the work you've put in. This is so authentic sounding. Bravo!
Thank you so much Skirmantas! Your words are much appreciated
Wow, this is very very well done. Also considering this is "only" Core
This is great! I love BBCSO core. Spitfire is awesome!
This is insanely impressive. Love the presentation as well!
Thank you very much Momo! Btw I'm a big fan of your work
Really good job, it shows perfectly what it could do at its best
Thank you so much!
Awesome work! I got BBCSO Core a few weeks a go, and I love it.
Thank you very much, your work is great too!
I stank face'd at 1:08. Killer job!
Thanks Travis!
Brilliantly done 🎉
This is insane!!! Bravo good sir.
Beautiful
Stunning work!
Congratulations! It's a great work!
Beautiful!! 💛
Great work !
So good!
Excellent work👍
GREAT !!!
great work!!!! I loved
I must add that you achieved great color and realism throughout the orchestra, especially the brass. and low brass. I am more and more sure that with a job well done and in detail it is possible to listen to a more real midi orchestra. Congratulations
Thank you Jorge! I absolutely agree
Just as a matter of interest, one of the times I performed this as a member of an amateur orchestra, the orchestra concerned was playing the whole Swan Lake suite, as the final item in the concert. One slight problem - they couldn't get the score for the Finale for love or for money ANYWHERE in the world (this was back in 1983, so don't suggest Google). And you couldn't play the suite as the last item of a concert without playing the Finale! So, as a last resort, the conductor and the leader (they were brothers) approached me, and asked me if I could score it out for the orchestra, from a record. Yes, a vinyl record. (I have Absolute Pitch). I copied it to a cassette tape, and life for the next week became an unending series of Stop-Reverse-Stop-Play-Scribble-Whiteout-Scribble-Reverse-Stop-Play-Stop-Reverse-Stop-Play..... When I handed that score to the conductor concerned a week later, his face looked like what I imagine Moses's face must have looked like when he beheld the Red Sea parting!
So here's a challenge to you: Would you dare to play the Finale from Swan Lake, in Core!? I'm sure you could do it justice, if what i hear on your channel is anything to go by!
Wow beautiful story! Sure, I’m working on a series of different mock-ups and original composition and I can add that as it is one of my favourite ballets (saw that live at the opera theatre in Rome in 2019 and it was incredible)
@@trinketstoadsymphony2070 This is it. th-cam.com/video/JI7AsZGnyi4/w-d-xo.html
Sounds great!
Great work !!!! ♥
Great job👏🏻
Thank you Michel!
고마워요! 구독 좋아요 누르고 갑니다 자주 보러 올게요!
Wow. 1:40 Very nice job.
Thank you very much!
I'm strongly considering buying BBCSO Core in the near future. (Sad I missed the sale though). I've been unsure of the brass, but here you make that section sound quite powerful! Did you have to do any sort of tricks to get the brass section to sound like that?
Also, your pieces using BBCSO have become quite a selling point for me!
Hey Brandon, thank you very much for your comment, I'm happy to hear that! The brass is definitely not as powerful and cinematic as you would find in other libraries and it is more suited for late romantic to golden age writing. In order to obtain powerful/brassy lines you will definitely need to think about orchestration instead of using something like a 12 horns or 6 trombones patch, and this is not necessarily a bad thing (actually it is something that I really enjoy doing).
As far as I am concerned I love the tone even if it comes with some shortcomings as pretty audible dynamic cross-fades between layers (but I think they are going to fix that to some extent in the upcoming update as well as adding muted articulations and updated legatos).
I would suggest that you wait until the next 25%/40% discount (I bought it25% down) since at 220/300€ this is a real bargain.
In this particular piece I have layered the 4 horns (long articulation) with a solo horn (marcato articulation) in order to obtain more bite.
Also, you may find this useful th-cam.com/video/PJBWK8gscX8/w-d-xo.html
@@trinketstoadsymphony2070 thank you for the advice! I have much to learn and these kinds of pointers will surely help me on my way! I've seen that video by Paul Thompson floating around, but haven't yet watched it, so I'll be sure to do so. I'm worried about waiting to make the purchase simply because I think this library will be incredibly helpful for my next film score project, but I'll probably have to start working on that at least by the end of March.
You're welcome Brandon, if I were you I would wait until March to see if this goes back on sale (if I'm not mistaken they usually have spring sales). But even at 450€ this is absolutely worth it
Great :-)
HI,
congratulations for this fabulous mockup....
I hope the SPITFIRE AUDIO team listened to your great work. Could you upload the MIDI files again. The link has expired.
Bravo again!!
Christian ( from France)
Hi Christian! Thank you so much for your words; here is the MIDI file: we.tl/t-i055rAbdPe. I really need to find a way to upload it permanently ahah
@@trinketstoadsymphony2070 Thanks for this MIDI flies!!
Best,
Christian
@@trinketstoadsymphony2070 May I have the MIDI also please? Thanks. Just got Core.
I'm very late to the party. This is an incredible piece of work, hard to believe this is BBC SO Core. Can I ask a quick technical question? It is interesting to see in the Cubase file that you have boosted many of the VI instruments to 200% (or above 100% anyway). Do you do this as a matter if course, or is that specific to this piece?
Use your ears
How long does it take to complete this? AND NICE WORK. SOUNDS VERY PROFESSIONAL
Thank you very much! If I remember well it took a couple of days to complete
The inelasticity of the tempo is a bit of a give away to how this was done, and the orchestral balance is unnatural at times (a conductor would have worked that out). Otherwise, the sounds are surprisingly good.
I see you took some inspiration from the Spitfire/Andy Blaney videos.
Great work.
You are correct! Thank you man
I'll start with the grizzle: Did the video actually HAVE to be blurred outside the centre? Annoying, especially when you're trying to actually follow what's happening.
Now the good stuff: This is a piece I have known since childhood, and have played as a member of amateur orchestras. If there was no picture and no mention of "BBCSO Core", I would not have known, at first listen, that this was a Software orchestra. I loved this. Thanks for posting.
I liked the tilt-shift effect but I brought it too far lol, this was the first video of a midi performance I edited but if you want to follow what’s happening more precisely you can download the midi files (link in the description). Anyway, thanks a lot for your kind words Craig! Much appreciated
@@trinketstoadsymphony2070 Not a problem. And other people in the comments have liked what I didn't like. And fair enough. Anyway, the important thing is, the music. I was very impressed by what I heard. After I commented, I went to your channel, had a look what else you'd done, and I subscribed.
@@CraigRodmellMusic thanks again Craig!
@@trinketstoadsymphony2070 Not a problem! I noticed you'd subscribed to my channel. Many Thanks! You may have noticed in my most recent post, Electronic Cathedral, about 3/5 of the way in, there was a page of orchestral score. That piece of music, composed by myself, is the reason I am interested in Core. (Though I would have to find a Cor Anglais, some solo violas and some solo cellos from somewhere else). I'd also have to find some - er, what did they call it? Oh yes! Money.
💛
Great job, sounds wonderful! Beginner question: Did you program the notes, or play them in with a keyboard? Tried the latter, was very hard to do. And how did you realize Tempo changes?
Thank you very much Volker! I played almost all the notes (with the exception of some harp apeggios) with a midi keyboard, the tempo changes were realized automating the tempo track (if you use cubase you first need to add the tempo track and then you can easily automate it left-clicking on it)
what daw did u use thx
Cubase
Amazing! Would it be possible to get the MIDI file?
Of course! I have uploaded it here: we.tl/t-Ucha6ex4yo
@@trinketstoadsymphony2070 Thank you so much man, it will be very useful to study. I wish Spitfire would let us download Andy Blaney's too haha.
Yeah that's the dream ahahah
@@trinketstoadsymphony2070 It seems the link has expired in the meantime. Could you upload it again, please? :)
@@paweulita7068 reuploaded! (it is only available for one week because of WeTransfer's policy): we.tl/t-Ed4bLHf2F7
20 secs in; Dude, try using the legato patch with overlapping notes i.e. Pull the end of the notes so they pass over the start of the next, the difference is jaw dropping especially with the solo flute!
Hey! Thank you for the suggestion, I actually use it a lot, it's just that sometimes I like to let the "players" breathe
Fabulous job!