I think people are so attached to the school days era of the show is due to one of the core complaints of the post beacon era, a lack of character interaction. With slightly lower stakes and a fixed location we can have characters actually interact and develop before sedimg them off to fight satan.
Yeah, destroying the school was a great idea for the emotional weight and the potential storytelling, but then splitting up everyone across the ENTIRE WORLD and keeping them separate for so long, to the point that even now there's some characters we've never seen again (unless you count the novels, but I don't), was such a stupid move And if that wasn't enough, Volume 9 takes place in an alternate dimension and the cast is reduced to Team RWBY, Neo, Jaune, and some pointless new side characters that don't matter now that we've left the dimension, because we CLEARLY didn't need to see anyone else /s
Not to mention that "school antics" leans heavily into the lighthearted charm that drew a lot of people to RWBY in the first place. Volume 3, while excellent, was a real rug pull thematically. Many people were watching the show for 3 years by the time the finale hit. By the time the Fall of Beacon happened, fans had fully acclimated to the mostly lighthearted humor and villains as well as the character interactions, like you mentioned. And then in Volume 4 it takes a huge shift to be a "save the world" plot with some of the most bland characters ever put to paper. It was a huge departure from what fans got used to and enjoyed.
CRWBY want team RWBY together as team RWBY in all these supplemental/side stories. That's part of why they always defaulted back to the Beacon days. The Mistral era does have plenty of room for side stuff (remember the whole month in the damn V5 house?) But because RWBY themselves aren't together, CRWBY & whoever decides on these side things just ignore that period. V7 was the 1st time in years they both had RWBY together & enough narrative down time to fit in side stories for the girls. Breaking them up wasn't a bad idea, in isolation. But it shot themselves in the foot in terms of what they can do side content wise with Team RWBY.
So even if Vol. 4+ was a masterpiece, fans would still be rightfully dissatisfied. They were promised one thing, sold on one thing, only to get something completely different. They bought chicken at a restaurant only to realize it was actually beef.
And I feel like this issue would've never been a thing if they just made episodes that are for a lack of a better term "filler". Rwby can be a bit too serialized for it's own good it always feels like it has to go from one major plot point to another without any breathing room. Like give us an episode where Yang takes the team to JR's. Or one where one of Jaune's sisters shows up to try and take him home. That would've helped with building character relationships but they just chose not to for some reason.
It’s kinda funny how Arrowfell released the same exact day as the Bendy & The Ink Machine sequel. A RWBY game sharing a release date with the sequel to a game about an animation company’s horrific abuse of it’s employees is the sort of cosmic ironies that I live for.
The employee abuse controversy was a big part of Arrowfell's poor sales, but it didn't help that it came out the week before Pokémon Scarlet and Violet either 💀
@@dylans.1741 Also God of War Ragnarök released five days before Arrowfell was released too. It was sandwiched between two popular IPs so I knew it wasn't gonna stand a chance in terms of sales.
GOWR, Bendy and the Ink Machine Sequel, and that Pokemon game literally oblirerated the fucking Arrowfell game, it was dead on arrival when it release in that timeline 😭
I love how it’s always like “Here is a video game about our famously combat centric show!” “How is the combat in the game?” “Oh, just the worst! Why do you ask?”
“Why is such perfection stuck in supplemental material?” Yep. A side character that looks to have way more care and interest put into them then the actual Maine characters. Sounds like RWBY in a nutshell to me.
I am glad an evil union guxy is stuck there, and of course it has an evil union guy. Yay great politics reee. But Briar could make sense, hell cou could play as brir even. they even could have an optional encyclopedia to explain stuff
@@marocat4749 RT has a habit of taking complex story elements and completely dropping the ball. The white fang and Faunus inequality and racism. Abandonment issues. PTSD. Family abuse broken family ties. Unions and social inequality. Decent into madness and self harming. Is it any wonder why people want the show put in the hands of better writers?
I remember seeing Arrowfell's graphics for the first time and thinking "this looks like some WiiWare game from 2010." I still hold that belief to this day
It was made by Wayforward. Their artstyle is ery distinct. It does look like their 2010 Shantae revival,which was a 3DS Eshop game. So you're not off-base. It very much feels like they put their b-team on this sothey could have their best on th games they actually wanted to make.
@littlekuribohimposte To be fair, Arrowfell looking like an old WiiWare game is completely up to you to decide whether that's a good or bad thing. I never said it was necessarily bad after all
There are some pretty great former WiiWare games that leant hard on low rent visuals like Max and the magic paintbrush and the bittrip runner games, among others, so it's low budget visuals doesn't excuse it's so so gameplay.@@dylans.1741
So, the moral of the story, is that the game is exactly like RWBY proper 1) Team RWBY feel exactly the same except for minor differences 2) Interesting ideas are thrown to the wayside 3) Pretty girls get redemption but not the men 4) Side characters thrown away so Team RWBY can be the blandest MC's 5) It's fine, but you're not gonna play or watch again
Honestly, making a Union leader a villain is pretty par for the course with RWBY's writing. Well that and having the female villains be redeemed. Also, I never would have expected a Ben Drowned reference coming from you. Nice!
I'm confused what gives Union Leaders supposed immunity to becoming villains? Like, I understand Unions are an objectively good thing, but I don't understand how that makes them exempt from being potential villains? They could have unionised for hundreds of different reasons and corruption can appear absolutely everywhere.
Yeah RWBY wants to be this progressive show about being yourself and is pro LGBT+. But then botch handling themes of racism with the White Fang and then this union. The writers could easily make these two organizations be cults/union busters/supremacy groups etc. But they villainize the groups instead and don’t try to show all sides of everything. Yeah Ghira is supposedly is peaceful protester but we never see him actually do anything. He scolds Adam for killing a man who was gonna kill him. Sienna’s violence was getting stuff done compared to him. Blake admitted it herself in Volume 1. And then the White Fang got written out once the writers realized they fumbled hard.
@@averageanimefan519 Like if the White Fang was in the middle of a political schism. Half of them wanting to remain peaceful and strive for slow, gradual changes that will benefit Faunus in the long run, versus the more violent members who wanted action now and didn't care whether it was out of respect or fear. It also makes no sense for Adam to kill Sienna. She's just as militant as he is, and is actively encouraging his acts of terror across the world (because that's what Adam's missions boil down to, acts of terror. Death for the sake of death, destruction for the sake of destruction). Did he think she was going soft by... Not declaring war on every single nation at once? Surely even someone as idiotic as Adam knows that if they did that, it'd be marching the entire White Fang, and potentially all Faunus, to their deaths.
@@averageanimefan519so it was a Martin Luther King Jr & Malcolm X type situation, where there was no clean situation. The big problem being violence can incite further hatred and persecution and peace marches run the risk of being ineffective unless you show any bite. Violence to achieve your own goals is a major part of fascist ideology, did the writers not realise that? I mean I'm not against political violence if needs be, but it and it's potential aftershock need to be seriously carefully considered when planning, I'm beginning to think these writers don't know how extremist politics work.
I hate to say it but your complaints about the platforming difficulty were hilarious at first because that jump with Ruby's dash was incredibly reminiscent to that one Cuphead review people memed to hell and back. I doubly hate to say it because the rest of the footage very much makes the issues clear; this game plays like Blasphemous, except instead of the Penitent One, you play as Little Mac on Smash Ultimate, with zero jumping ability. Also, the moment they mentioned Fifestone was a union leader my smile lit up like radiant sunshine. They're doing unions now? After they did civil rights, and after they did class warfare, and after they got in trouble for the way they did both, they're doing fucking _unions?_ And then Fifestone shows up and he speaks like an anime villain who literally _feeds on fear?_ That's _so_ fucking funny.
As soon as Ironwood said union leader I started cackling. Fifestone is also one of the few black people in the franchise, there's so many layers to this lmao. Unintentional or not RT really wore their bullshit on their sleeve the whole time, people just didn't want to see it lol
@@Auzzymandias people only choose to see what they wanna see. its why i really love that people dont realize that clark kent is superman. sure, the only things that change is his posture, his mannerisms, and his wearing glasses, but its enough for people to not want to see him as superman, so they dont see him as superman
@@MasquedMochaTo be fair, I don't think all people do that on purpose. Everybody's susceptible to Confirmation Bias; to see only what affirms our positions, and avoid anything that challenges them. The idea is, once you realize that this is what you're doing, you take steps to FACE that opposing information if only to accept reality as it is. At that point, THEN it becomes a choice. Also, you reminded me of something funny. IIRC, DC made sure nobody in-universe put two and two together via Bizarro. He USED to look just like Superman at one point, so people saw both Clark and "Superman" at the same time. And noooooooobody suspected Clark Kent ever again... Dumb, but funny.
38:08, I walked past my pc and thought you were joking and summarizing pennys character and double took the screen seeing it was legit the text, word for word.
I agree. Both on the premise that a RWBY tactics game has a lot of potential given the immense cast of heroes and villains, and that it'd be fun to listen to someone tell me why it's such a good idea.
0:37-0:40 “ A week later it was on sale for Blake's birthday and I was annoyed then shortly after that RT fell apart and then it was on a super sale because of it and I was even more annoyed than ever.” -If you have a Crunchyroll membership, then you can play Arrowfell on Crunchyroll’s Game Vault for free. [14:02] If you go frame-by-frame by using the “.” or “,” keys, then you can see the Goliath’s left foot clipping into the ground. 15:41-15:44 “This guy rolls up and is like get out of here” -And this guy is voiced by Yong Yea 24:20-24:27 “While doing a side quest for this I want to say hamster girl she helped Blake upgrade her semblance somehow” -I would like to point out this continuity error for this side quest being that Winter has Blake’s bow even though Blake toss it in the ocean. [31:32] For added context for Roane’s text blurb, it was Ruby ask how do you tell the Rs in “BRIR” apart from each other. Even though Ruby was in “RNJR” and I just realized Miles and Kerry didn’t alphabetically sort Rs in “RNJR”. 35:07-35:17 “Team BRIR are actually like guardians of Arrowell or something I guess Ironwood didn't know this because his predecessor d1ed before telling him” -I don’t believe this justification because Ironwood knows about the maidens, relics, Salem, but not the secret of team BRIR. Also why did BRIR not go to Ironwood because trusting him makes a lot more sense than Bram Thornmane. [35:33] For context, team BRIR had broken up, rescinded their roles as guardians, and gave RWBY their jobs. If want to know how not to endear your audience to character, then a good start is making them give up and do nothing. 43:00-43:03 “It's just fine I don't think I'd be itching to play it again anytime soon” -Well that’s more than game’s director did because he live streamed this game, stoped playing, and never bothered finishing it.
Regarding the two Rs in RNJR think, I suppose Ren not being the leader is obvious enough that it is fine but with BRIR neither R is the first letter/leader so it is more ambiguous. (Of course nothing tops Team SSSN or Sun lead by Sun Wukong, which is so bad that I am pretty sure I have seen multiple AUs turn it into SSNS Seasons and at least one have Scarlet be the leader.)
I have seen a lot of reviews saying that you only need Ruby in the game with the other girls only being useful for certian tasks...so the first time Ruby was the focus of something since the Beacon days was an outside source game
Imagining an SRPG set during the Fall of Beacon, focusing on all the characters as they try to escape the chaos... that would be amazing. Fighting through hordes of Grimm as you try to desperately escape with the Teams that are split across the entire school. Now THAT'S a cool idea.
I think the only reason why they paired Yang with Imani was because of how she plays outside of using her ultimate, having gauntlets that shoot elemental blasts. But if you think that’s weird, they gave Qrow a gun
@@dragonborn7955 indeed. He should have been a skin for Zhin. That would have made a lot more sense. But I think they also wanted to push more modern characters
Another arcsys game, and they have plenty of fun interactions with the other characters, and their movesets are unique. Yang is an in-your-face reka fighter, Weiss is more technique based with good zoning, Blake is a glass cannon and Ruby herself is the all-rounder with a lean towards offense. Neo's in the game too, and she plays like you'd expect. Just dodging and weaving. A good Neo can basically NEVER be touched
I love that you started making more video game reviews, they are really cool and insightful. Especially since you actually talk about all aspects of them in such great detail
Visually? absolutely not. This games graphically and artistically pretty too look at. Better than the show actually, Team Rwbys expressions are vibrant and well expressive. This game can suck and still look nice
So what I'm getting is the Team RWBY girls in this game have the exact same issue that the old Ninja Turtles game on the nes had, IE: it is objectivley miles better to play as a few specific characters and only use the others when you have to. Glad to see this game has the exact same fucking issues as a Nintendo Entertainment System from 1989. This has to be a budget/time/interest thing. I've played other metroidvania games from Way Forward and their alot better, serioussly if you want a better stage based platformer metroidvania thing from this team play Shantae and the Pirates curse; it's cheeper and you will have infinitly more fun with it.
According to someone else in the comments the game director played it but then never finished it. Didn't help this game was coming out the same time as stuff like Pokemon SV, God of War Ragnarök and Sonic Frontiers.
Honestly Arrowfell annoys me not just because it's a boring game but also because it continues the trend of RWBY's extended universe having infinitely more interesting looking characters and story ideas. Like remember the villain in grimm eclipse? his whole deal if I recall was that he viewed the Grimm as a superior species to humans and faunus that was a legitimately unique idea too bad they do nothing with him and keep him locked up in that game. The same goes for arrowfell so many interesting looking characters with cool semblances and a admittedly interesting concept for a plot completely wasted and stuck in a mediocre game.
It's kinda one of the bigger problems in RWBY's writing, and one of the reasons it sticks around. It's not a story; it's a fanfiction generation engine. The writers of RWBY created a number of interesting ideas and had no interest in following up on *any* of them, because they weren't part of the story they wanted to tell. And these writers are utterly incurious and completely unwilling to acknowledge that they stumbled into a good idea that they should follow up on. If it wasn't part of the plan, then they ignore it. Any writer not them who is allowed to play in RWBY's universe therefore has a veritable cornucopia of good ideas to pick from and develop. But RWBY's writers are too busy writing their half-assed ATLA fanfiction to every notice any of that.
@GeneralBolas and like that's the saddest thing about this series, isn't it? The most enjoyment you'll get out of it is fanworks because the team actually making the show was just that incompetent when it came to the writing.
@ To me, the saddest thing about the series, from a writing perspective, was the realization that, after 10 years of writing "professionally"... They're still amateurs, making amateur mistakes. Writing is a skill. Even for those with little talent, if you do something long enough, repeat a process enough times, you *should* get better at it. Right? But they haven't. Oh, they've gotten a bit better. They aren't making *all* of the same mistakes they did. But Volume 9's mistakes are largely mistakes they've made over and over again. They started this process as an amateur, so amateur mistakes are expected. But that was *ten years ago.* There's no excuse for it except sloth, a complete unwillingness to actually learn their craft. And you can see this in how they respond to criticism, and there's no better example than Ironwood. I suspect that in Volume 7, they thought that they had written a heroic character turned to full-on villain. They thought that they'd presented the story such that everyone would see that Ironwood was the badguy by the end. But then they saw a lot of criticism on that point, how he had a genuine point. The writers could have taken this as a lesson and took the opportunity to actually embrace the moral greyness they had created. But they didn't; they doubled-down on the villainy in V8. And... well, that's laziness. Or closed-mindedness. Sloth. Not once have these writers tried to improve their skills. I doubt any of them bothered to read anything on the art of writing in their 10 years of doing it "professionally". They write something and never really think about it. Whether it's because they're intellectually lazy, have no time to reflect on their creation, or just already think they've done a good job, at every turn, they have displayed a complete disinterest in learning their craft. I feel for them in the beginning. They weren't writers, not really. They had this thrust upon them. And RT's production processes in those days were probably a nightmare (and probably even later on too). But there's no excuse for not getting better after so long.
@GeneralBolas it's simply a case of no one telling them no. Miles and Carrey would tell Monty no when they thought certain ideas wouldn't work, but there was no one like that for them. The entire team was surrounded by yes men, and thus, when they got criticism, they simply ignored it and decided to only listen to the toxic positivity the Fandom had been consumed by. Not understanding that said Fandom never really grew. Rwby had always been kinda niche even back then. The fanbase it had only ever remained stagnate or shrunk. They didn't wanna accept that aspect of rwby and only wanted to listen to the praise the series got. Never wanting to acknowledge how bad the show got because they only wanted to listen to how good of a job they did.
@@GeneralBolasRWBY has big fanfic scene but they don't really matter nor do they bring in money, most people got into RWBY because of its amazing action scene and the potential world building, and also because its very accessible because its on youtube, when the animator passed away you just get a niche show with potential that it failed to lived up to because the writer can't commit to exploring theme they set up alongside their over the head ambition of expanding the cast instead of developing the character that is already there. take that niche show, remove the reason why its popular in the first place: its accessibility and then you get a dead show because not many people would want to pay for cheap web show who lost its only assured draw: the fight scene.
3:17 I would actually like to hear about you talk about what you would want a turn based Rwby game to be like cause I think it would be awesome since I love Fire emblem and you have fun ideas
Me too, I still remember someone made fan art of RWBY characters with fates classes (alongside boons and banes), and it’s been stuck in my mind ever since
Y'know, it's really funny how Ruby just sits still while swinging the Crescent Rose. Imagine if you could press the Gun button while swinging the Crescent Rose in order to get backwards momentum, acting like a back dash. Or if you could press the Jump and Gun buttons simultaneously to get a super jump (since you'd be shooting downwards, giving you upwards momentum). That would give it a better "RWBY" feel. Also I love the Strategy RPG idea for RWBY. I looked into game development last year. If I get back into it I might just take that idea LOL. Imagining an SRPG set during the Fall of Beacon, focusing on all the characters as they try to escape the chaos... that would be amazing.
You can't move when you jump which is so annoying and most characters are useless. Either you're using Blake's clone to do double damage in combat or use Ruby's dash to skip past enemies.
Something like dynasty warriors or devil may cry/bayonetta would be perfect for the serie's style of fighting, and yes Grimm Eclypse does exist and it's ass but give it to someone that actually knows what they're doing and it could work perfectly
taking cues from DMC and Bayonetta for a RWBY game is such a banger idea. apply the spectacle fighting game mechanics to the spectacle fighting show is genius. brother, you might be cooking
Or heck even a fighting game akin to something like Blazblue. Rwby's video game outings are so odd to me because there's so potential with the IP but all we ever got was a incredibly repetitive hack and slash, a terrible gacha game, a boring platformer, and a incredibly odd guest appearance in Blazblue crosstag.
I'm keeping my eyes on VA Proxy for this reason. It caught my eye when I saw the tweet showcasing being able to PARRY A NUKE (and even fall damage!), but later on they showcased a rework of their scythe combat, which felt like it took a lot of cues from Crescent Rose. They even played Red Like Roses' climactic finale during the showcase, so they know what they're doing there haha.
@@nightmarearcade2663 Not to mention the DC deckbuilder derivative game RWBY Deckbuilding game (which shut down), plus the China exclusive gacha game, and also a RWBY Chibi puzzle game of some kind?? IDK why RWBY is always saddled with fully derivative clone games. There's so much potential.
@Aigis31 I can only assume budget reasons because from what I recall, rwby just wasn't all that profitable for rooster teeth. Thus, it's likely they just never had the money to hire a developer to make a more ambitious project.
I’m curious if you’ve considered checking out Zenless Zone Zero. Its story feels like RWBY if RWBY was planned out and written decently, can still be f2p, and has some great character designs even after the fanservice. Plus, it’s semi open world hack-and-slash for its gameplay.
If you want to get more specific, Honkai impact 3rd, Feels more similar to Early RWBY: High school setting, Evil Forces threatening Humanity, Each Character got Special Super Power, Dead Mother, Red Hair girl Sacrificing themselves, A Professor wearing Glasses, And Ships, LOTS of Ship's....
@@bimoprasetyo6862Hoyoverse is the Anti Rooster Teeth lol both are indie company Hoyo almost get bough by big company but they preseverve unlike rooster teeth Hoyo main draw as company is that they have *healthy work enviroment* as in no overtime or crunch unlike rooster teeth
I just gotta say that Cerise's design looks like a good mix between Little Red Riding Hood and the Big Bad Wolf, which is a better twist on the story then just "what if the girl had a girl".
They must've blown all their budget getting Dave Fennoy to voice the evil scientist dude. But yeah would've loved to see some more maps/game modes and some cleaned up combat.
@@Auzzymandias Definitely! had they kept to it we could have had more maps, maybe more unlockable characters that involved the other seasons locations. I didn't like the ranking, it was very grindy with very little pay off. Would have been more worth it had we gotten more. It had a lot of potential and it just got abandoned :( I wont even try arrowfell, doesn't seem worth it to me
My new headcanon is that the reason Ironwood doesn't know about team BRIR is because his senior kept them as undocumented workers so they could get away with undepaying them.
Fun fact: in my script I was originally going to say "It seems like the grimm need to be up her a** to land a hit." But I felt like that was a bit too crude so I changed it lol.
I think this game's greatest contribution was giving us a fully detailed map with Solitas. Despite the somewhat same-y environment design in the levels themselves, adding surrounding villages, blue collar workers outside the SDC, and the Arrowfell facility did a lot to add to the lore.
If you think you getting the game is rough, feel bad for those that ordered all of the Special Edition stuff from that company. Apparently, they had to wait a whole year to get it after the official release. I actually enjoyed the game. It was very short, but i think that's the norm for these type of games. Yang i'm pretty sure i only used for the puzzles. Blake and Weiss are the one i used the most i believe due to the fact that if you stand on the same spot as Blake's clone, you ar essentially doing double damage and Weiss glyph basically does damage while i run like a coward. Yes, Ruby's semblance sucked in the beginning. Yes, the drill guy is annoying. I honestly wish we got this as Volume 7 instead of the trainwreck that was the original one. I wonder if they are ever going to try their luck with games or if they are gonna stick with books due to Viz Media.
Small nitpick: why is Weiss taller than everyone but Yang in the gameplay model? And I'm not talking about her braid; even if you just measure from the top of her head, she's suddenly super-tall.
What's wild is that RWBY is pretty much more inspired by games than anime seeing all that inspired Monty before and even during his work on the show, but this feels like something that was relegated to Wayforward's C or D team. The abilities being the most baffling parts. Like, RWBY should be able to just double jump with her semblance, same with Yang, Weiss could do it and create platforms at the same time. Blake could use her ribbon to grapple onto the ceiling and swing around, maybe pull in enemies. Does she even get her fire clones that explode, which is the most video game ability ever? Let alone more basic stuff like wall jumping or sliding, don't remember if you can even crouch. It sucks that you gotta talk about stuff like this before even reaching stuff you'd want to see like, maybe summon characters to help, have Marrow show up and freeze all the enemies on screen, or have Jaune show up and recover all your aura. Team BRIR was so prevalent on the marketing, you'd think they would be playable, and considering how shallow your gameplay options are, not having a single unlockable character is a real shame.
It’s really weird they put so much emphasis on Team BRIR but then they barely show up and hardly do anything. I remember in RT’s dying days the last prices of merch for RWBY that weren’t being sold was their merch.
So, in a world where the characters are fast and super strong fighters, they make a platformer? Why not make it like Dmc or Final Fantasy XVI, multible open spaces designes as a level but with alot of freedom in the combat department. Ruby is the fastes of the four but does decent damage, Weiss uses summons to help her fight opponents but still uses her rapier, Yang does boxing mixed with shooting and she gets stronger the lower her hp goes, and Blake is an agile fighter that distracts the opponents when the dodge was right on time. Just an idea
@@Gunn3rGuru The point he's trying to get across is that RWBY is the kind of series that would be better off as a Dynasty Warriors/Bayonetta/DMC kind of game. The kind of games that meshes well with RWBY's combat flow.
It feels like Ruby should've had a charge up dash, that lets you cross the large gorges. Doing it in the air, it slows your fall so you can shoot forward. Her gunshots should be faster and do more damage the further she is. Blake should've at least had a double jump, and her shadow clones should let perform a dash/air dash. On the ground or in air, it gives I-frames to avoid getting hit. Weiss should have the ability to create multiple glyphs, maybe 3-5 to create platforms or explode into ice. But the ice explosion should have a button prompt, otherwise, the glyphs fade after a few seconds. Yang should have a larger aoe explosion from her semblance. Her gunshots should have mid range but explode.
I think Blake's shadow clones can be used to double melee attacks. As I've said before though, I've not played this game. So don't quite me on that though. Heh, I noticed the Goliath is misnamed. That's a Megoliath. (Fuq, I'm such a nerd. 😫) 16:48 - I expected a "okay I believe you" meme. lol
Having finished the game, I am now happy to watch this review. 0:58 - You know you're in for a good time when the start menu is as boring as boring can be with absolutely no atmosphere, good soundtrack, or effects for the UI. Doubly so if the start of the game is just a text screen full of info that the characters will eventually repeat anyway. 2:10 - Having the game's main theme play during gameplay IS cool; the entire 3D 'Sonic' series can attest to that. But, since the stage is so simple and inconsequential, it feels more like they realised they couldn't afford an actual opening so they just slapped the theme where they could. This is not the game's only signifier of how cheap it is. 2:49 - I'm sorry to hear that. I like platformers but I'd like to see more platformers with an action focus that use the mobility for the combat, like 'Guacamelee!' or 'Kingdom Hearts'. Also, I think the musou genre would do 'RWBY' fantastically. 3:25 - Shame the characters are all functionally identical and the only real reason to swap between them is when you need a specific interpretation of a key to open a specific interpretation of a door. The only character worth maining is Blake because she can use her clones to attack enemies while staying out of their counterattacks (and they ARE distracted by clones, mind; bosses will lock onto the clones instead of Blake while they're active). Ruby will be the second-most used character once she's upgraded because she can simply Petal Burst through enemies and bypass them entirely, saving you lots of time you'd otherwise waste. 7:00 - I'm still baffled that these games drown you in fetch quests layered inside other fetch quests. 10:00 - YES! It's bloody absurd how long the hitstun is. And the heart system is absolute rubbish. Who designed this? And everything else about the game? It's even more annoying that shooting enemies costs energy, as if shooting wasn't useless enough already. 11:11 - I'm not at all opposed to supplemental material taking place somewhere other than Beacon. It's just a shame that we're shown so little about the world of consequence. 11:59 - That just feels like the writing of 'RWBY' in general. Also, the tech level is all over the place. These people dress like vikings; am I expected to believe that there isn't a sprawling metropolis of technology literally within view of this ice fishing lake that probably has warm clothes right there? 14:14 - I do not like their designs at all, except for Roane Ashwood's glowing hair. Especially Bianca's belly ring that seems to be sewn in between her shirt. They're all hideous shades of green. I complained about this to someone and they went "They're all themed after plants, that's why" and it made me wonder if we ever saw another team in 'RWBY' that was all themed after flowers and still had diverse themes and colours. What do you thing, Ruby Rose? Blake Belladonna? Myrtenaster of Weiss Schnee and Ember Celica of Yang Xiao Long? 18:15 - Eh... I think it's olive. Hard to tell with the lightning and shading of her eyes. Maybe she could have it ON HER CLOTHES?! 19:29 - I think this game is a Metroidvania in the loosest of senses. I think it's more like if 'Crash Bandicoot' forbade you from going to new levels until you got the coloured gems in the old one. There's no sense of exploration or empowerment here; it's just all... eh. 20:38 - I never got a Game Over while playing and I never knew it was that bad. Where are the bloody checkpoints or autosaves? 24:04 - MORE FETCH QUESTS! NO WORLDBUILDING! ONLY FETCH QUESTS! WHO IS HANLON FIFESTONE? NO ONE CARES! ONLY FETCH QUESTS! 24:31 - Of course you don't because the gameplay doesn't evolve or change; you start as you mean to go on and the only thing that changes are enemies that you deal with the same way as you did before. 26:32 - I'm so sorry that no one told you that Blake could use her clones to attack Hanlon while you stood out of harm's way. 33:04 - Not only that but it's said to hold experimental research and... aside from the orbs, that's it. It's just typical robots. Nothing revolutionary that would justify it being experimental. And how exactly were they planning to use the orbs aside from Hanlon's semblance, anyway? 41:11 - Would you like to know what his semblance is? So would I, because it's never told to us in any way. I guess it might be his arrows but who's to say that's not a quirk of his weapon, or something along the lines of what Hanlon's doing in his fight? Or how Bianca flies across the screen in the Team BRIR fight? In any event, he's such a disappointment. He's the FINAL BOSS of a 'RWBY' game and all he does is use Cinder's old weapon, have Watts' spite, and the plan of "Unleash Grimm all over the place" that every other leading villain in the franchise has had. I think you're way too gentle with this game. I regularly play games by solo indie developers that are better than this. WayForward regularly make games that are better than this. Jesus Christ, this game is a failure on every level. I couldn't even recommend this to 'RWBY' fans for its awful combat, copy-pasted levels, threadbare story and world-building, meaningless progression, and anything else that eludes my mind at this time.
3:10-Nice image of Blake cosplaying as Kelthuzad, Ruby cosplaying as Illidan, Weiss cosplaying as Arthas, Yang cosplaying as Deathwing and Penny cosplaying as Garrosh. I wonder which RWBY character would cosplay as Archimonde, Kil’Jaeden, Sargares, Sylvanis, Azarha and Xalatath. 3:14-What about a RWBY game that’s similar to Baldur’s Gate 3? 15:50-I also notice a lot of character model inconsistencies in the Sly Cooper Trilogy in terms of in game and animated cutscenes. 16:19-Lots of other animated superhero shows have different art styles like Super Man, Batman, Spider Man, X-Men, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Transformers, He-Man and Thundercats. 23:53-Nice use of the FF7 victory theme. 31:07-A new character with an interesting character design existing to sell merch? Where have I heard that before? 31:14-No wonder this game didn’t do so well in terms of sales. 42:14-It’s almost like Stolas from Helluva Boss accepting the consequences of his actions and being at fault for what he did to his family.
I always say this, let the people who make Devil May Cry games create a RWBY game. DMC got just as many ridiculous weapons as RWBY, demons are basically Grimm, and the combos would be INSANE! Also, both franchise thrive off the Rule of Cool. It's a match made in Heaven or Hell
If people are talking about what type of game should've been made with RWBY IP then I'll go with my most wanted option (and the one that fits RWBY the best in my opinion) GIVE. US. A. RWBY. FIGHTING. GAME. No BlazBlue Cross Tag doesn't count because RWBY only collabed with it, it's as if You would call Smash bros a Metal gear fighting game. I mean a full on fighting game with a full lineup of RWBY stages, ost, game mechanics and characters with original move sets that fit the characters. I'm passionate about this subject and no matter how awful this franchise is I WILL pop off if it ever gets announced
BlazBlue Cross Tag may not count but it does at the very least prove your exact point. If the RWBY girls can work as guest fighters for another franchise's game then yeah they absolutely would work in a fighting game that's /actually/ about their series.
So I've got notes... That hole pliteral text setting you up? Could be a cinematic of the girls talking. Like start off with an action sequence with some dialogue about "Finally being huntresses" and "We've come really far from back in the academy!" But after seeing the rest of the game and remembering what IP we are talking about... Yeah, not much to do to fix this
Some notes: -iirc you don't have to go to save point each time, just getting out of level and back in should save your progress -While I agree yang is useless in combat weiss and blake do have their uses: --Blake's clones do same dmg as her in malee so using her clones in path of enemy or in place is quite usefull if enemy stands in place and you pop both clones you get triple dmg --Weiss's glyphs are usefull if you wanna play it safe and have place in ambush area where enemies cant attack you ---Also Blakes clones block projectiles which is usefull in the train segment Other than these things I agree with this review
This review is whatever to me and it comes from someone who seems to not understand platformers and how she legit didn't level up Blake despite her being extremely broken.
I just realized why the screen goes black when your heart is taken out... I was like "wait... doesn't that happen in megaman?" Then I realized that both the gameplay and the bobble head proportions are very Megaman ajacent .... especially Ruby shooting her gun as shiny ball pellets but thats just what I think
Regarding character usage, I used Blake most of the time because she’s balanced, my favourite of Team RWBY, and her shadow attacks too meaning you can stack damage against bosses.
Probably one of my favorite things I've noticed in this game is that their idle animations I feel is a reference to their BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle sprites, I love that game! I'm glad this game is better than Grimm Eclipse but I do hope that if there ever is a chance of another RWBY game it'll be a lot more fun. Regardless of my opinions of the show I love the idea of a good RWBY game and I do get excited seeing RWBY Crossovers. The story doesn't have to be good or anything complex, having good gameplay is all I'd need. ;; Hopefully some day You did a great job with this video, a lot of fun to watch while drawing!
I can imagine an amazing metroidvania style game featuring beautiful pixel art of the RWBY characters and settings. Instead we got two low effort cash grab games 😢
I think people are too harsh about Grimm Eclipse, regardless of its quality, it had more variety than Arrowfell can ever hope to have, so I can respect it for that alone
In fairness, I enjoyed Grimm Eclipse for a time. I liked it more in its original version as a fan made game, and the brief demo they had at RTX though.
Btw, as mentioned RWBY Arrowfell was released in November 2022. November 15th to be specific. In the same week, Goat Simulator 3, Pokemon Scarlet/Violet and Warzone 2.0 were released. The Week Before: Sonic Frontiers, Atari 50, Sifu, and God of War: Ragnarok. Arrowfell costs $29.99 Grimm Eclipse: $19.99 Standard/$22.99 Definitive
One thing I should note that this game was made by Wayfoward. The same people that made Shantae, and the Mighty series. They’re far better than what THIS is.
3:17 actually in that same vain when Marvel's midnight sun's was being talked about. i was thinking about what series would do well with an X-COM style game and RWBY was the first thing i thought of
Cerise looks like Xayah from league of legends. As for a RWBY srpg game, I wonder if something could be made with rpgmaker? Would love to hear your ideas for that.
I'll be honest, every time I see a character from ZZZ in motion, their zany, extra personalities just makes me grimace. It just doesn't seem like it's really up my alley.
Honestly after playing Zenless Zone Zero, screw MMORPGs, screw turn based games, just copy ZZZ but with RWBY characters like how Amity Arena was a Clash Royale copy and we're good Either that or a 2D fighting game like Blazeblue CTB but fully RWBY please, I'm convinced if RT was still alive they'd be making a hero shooter or something right now, they seemed genuinely allergic to making a good game
I think the game focusing on BRIR would’ve been so much better. Can you imagine all the cool puzzles you could have with underground tunneling and whip portals? Huge missed opportunity imo. Then again they completely botched the much simpler stuff they went with, so I don’t even wanna think about how jank that would turn out. It’s a shame RWBY hasn’t gotten a truly great game yet because the formula seems so obvious? I’m not sure if it was something on RT’s end or on the people they chose for development, but the games feel like they were made out of obligation rather than of passion. Also the FE RWBY concept would be cool to hear about!!
34:38 So now I will talk about what grinds my gears about this game. I never played it; I just watched the cutscenes and some gameplay footage when I was confused. The cinematic cutscene placements are awful and actively harm peoples ability to follow the story. As for the cutscenes, we have BRIR Set up, Glass Boss Fight Intro, Ironwood briefing, Union Boss intro, Union Boss Conclusion, train fight, and Ending. Like, I get they had limited resources for what are a really small game, and the promise of cinematics similar to the show would be a neat selling point, especially since we were in a content draught at that point, but if you're not going to use them well it's just a waste of money. Like the cutscenes would've been Beginning, Boss Intros, Boss Conclusions, Ending. Cause without that structure we get a villainous team of huntresses that get defeated in the cutscene equivalent of off-screen and its Jarring
I remember when “Arc system work rwby game.” Was announced in for like 15 minutes. I was super excited hoping it would be a blazblue style fighting game. Then I saw wayforward and just walked away.
I think the main issue with this game is that I came out after atlas like the jl movies Yeah I love Oscar he's my favorite I like him more then Ruby Weiss and Blake I wish I could give him a spin off book or something But then I feel like Oscar is an afterthought even to the writers that seem to care about him I remember one of the Oscar fans back about a year ago when the Oscar fans were doing a lot of cameos with Miles cuz unlike all the other Ruby fans Oscar fans save their money cuz we don't have any merge to buy so we all kept asking him different questions about Oscar and somebody asked when Oscar's birthday was and they said he doesn't have a birthday but the only thing we can conclude is that Oscar's birthday must be around the same time as Ruby's because he turned 15 around the time she turned 17 and that's all we have to go on sadly And this is what's frustrating we don't see anything with Oscar or know anything about him I know more about cinder and emerald two side characters then I do Oscar a person who's more tied to the plot than even the main character herself And then there's the whole thing where everyone is even more convinced to send some concept art came out for Janue that Oscar wasn't supposed to be a character to begin with that Jaube was going to be the next ozma/ oz And even if he was it doesn't matter now cuz we have Oscar and yet we don't focus on him you know who would have been more interesting going to the ever after or being in a game Oscar we could have used Oscar as a starter character since he doesn't have a semblance or anything and hell we could have used the game to hint at what his senblance would be eventually by using him as a starter character This is why I left RWBY I now Oscar will nvr get anything I still love him and oz but instead of ever getting anything on either of them we keep getting new characters half-ass development in relationships with the main characters that I think a lot of us just really gave up on a long time ago and now they're bringing them back up for no reason And boring grim fights and now that we're going back to vacuo with all the V1-3 character that everyone really wants to see like team sssn ,cfyv and Raven I don't think will see Oscar do anything just sitting there merging with oz and then at the end it want matter if it's Ozpin or Oscar caz I don't trust the writers to do either of them right so what's the point
It's such a shame because there's some ideas introduced in this game's story that could've been cool if done well or expanded upon. I also find it hard to believe this game and Grimm Eclipse are supposed to be canon when the events of both are never mentioned in the show. If it was me writing a fanfic of this game's ideas I would scrap this story and do my own thing. I think it would've been more interesting to make Arrowfell a rogue branch of the Atlesian military with Thornmane at the helm, who was the former headmaster of Atlas Academy but chose to resign after coming to the conclusion that the Atlas government was too restrictive on huntsman activity and that meant his hands were constantly tied between following the law and doing what he felt was the right thing. His sudden departure is why Ironwood is simultaneously a general and headmaster of an academy; no one else was suited for the role of running the academy and most of Ironwood's peers are politicians who have no training and thus have no business running a monster slayer school so he had no choice but to pick up the reins and improvise. He idealizes Ironwood's dedication to his job but opposes him as a matter of principle. He along with Olive who is a friend and was part of his own team at school works with Team Briar; a team of senior year huntresses who were recruited after being expelled from Atlas. They acted against direct orders of their teacher/supervisor during a mission which resulted in expulsion. Sort of like a "What if Ozpin wasn't so lenient with Team RWBY after the mission gone wrong in Volume 2?" scenario. After Thornmane heard the news, he came to them a proposition to work for him with less rules and added pay, which they accepted, because who would pass up on that offer? They hunt Grimm and on rare occasions take up contracts to kill rogue huntsman, bandits and other rogue types from Atlas' criminal underworld, which has them labeled as mercenaries by the general public. They also have a rivalry type thing going on with the Ace Ops, but always manage to escape being apprehended. I have other ideas in my head but brainstorming is difficult.
My ideal RWBY game is something like Attack on Titan 2 game where you can have an OC and their POV to reenact the show itself but it's your OC till the end of the Season 2 story. And RWBY has the best first level with the Battle of Beacon with the locker being your customisation screen, help you design your OC with gender choices, even body builds from having tall and lanky to a short and rotund, picking out your weapon, even fighting style, of four styles; sword, polearm (scythe, giant hammer, etc.), melee (weapons that are attached onto your hands like Tyrian's or Vernal's), or gun-fu (with pistol whipping or rifle swings, even AoT2 allow you to use guns in its gameplay). And the story will be simple, going to Haven Academy to continue your education and earn your license. -Interacting with Team RNJR and getting involved with their fights. -Help Oscar out on reaching the train station but your reason for not boarding is you either don't have any money or get robbed which leads to a chase scene, and afterwards, it's your choice to either stay at the station to do Huntsman work but with less pay due to not being licensed, or travel down to do work on the way, either way you will be stop at a certain destination. Two choices between Human or Faunus; Human: Encounter the Branwen's Tribe, even helping them out on something for safe passage. Faunus: Help the White Fang and members to aid you to safe passage. The main villain is a male serial killer based on the Headless Horseman who wants to be like Tyrian. While two main antagonists are; a White Fang member who's Adam childhood friend and help him but give us an explanation of his downfall, based on the Ugly Duckling; a Branwen Tribes member who's village been destroyed by Grimm and absorbed into the tribe, allusion of Bilbo Baggins. The Battle of Haven will serve as the story climax, and you'll face all three main adversaries of the game with two of them helping you out by beating the Headless Killer.
I think people are so attached to the school days era of the show is due to one of the core complaints of the post beacon era, a lack of character interaction. With slightly lower stakes and a fixed location we can have characters actually interact and develop before sedimg them off to fight satan.
Yeah, destroying the school was a great idea for the emotional weight and the potential storytelling, but then splitting up everyone across the ENTIRE WORLD and keeping them separate for so long, to the point that even now there's some characters we've never seen again (unless you count the novels, but I don't), was such a stupid move
And if that wasn't enough, Volume 9 takes place in an alternate dimension and the cast is reduced to Team RWBY, Neo, Jaune, and some pointless new side characters that don't matter now that we've left the dimension, because we CLEARLY didn't need to see anyone else /s
Not to mention that "school antics" leans heavily into the lighthearted charm that drew a lot of people to RWBY in the first place. Volume 3, while excellent, was a real rug pull thematically. Many people were watching the show for 3 years by the time the finale hit. By the time the Fall of Beacon happened, fans had fully acclimated to the mostly lighthearted humor and villains as well as the character interactions, like you mentioned. And then in Volume 4 it takes a huge shift to be a "save the world" plot with some of the most bland characters ever put to paper. It was a huge departure from what fans got used to and enjoyed.
CRWBY want team RWBY together as team RWBY in all these supplemental/side stories. That's part of why they always defaulted back to the Beacon days.
The Mistral era does have plenty of room for side stuff (remember the whole month in the damn V5 house?) But because RWBY themselves aren't together, CRWBY & whoever decides on these side things just ignore that period.
V7 was the 1st time in years they both had RWBY together & enough narrative down time to fit in side stories for the girls.
Breaking them up wasn't a bad idea, in isolation. But it shot themselves in the foot in terms of what they can do side content wise with Team RWBY.
So even if Vol. 4+ was a masterpiece, fans would still be rightfully dissatisfied. They were promised one thing, sold on one thing, only to get something completely different. They bought chicken at a restaurant only to realize it was actually beef.
And I feel like this issue would've never been a thing if they just made episodes that are for a lack of a better term "filler". Rwby can be a bit too serialized for it's own good it always feels like it has to go from one major plot point to another without any breathing room. Like give us an episode where Yang takes the team to JR's. Or one where one of Jaune's sisters shows up to try and take him home. That would've helped with building character relationships but they just chose not to for some reason.
It’s kinda funny how Arrowfell released the same exact day as the Bendy & The Ink Machine sequel.
A RWBY game sharing a release date with the sequel to a game about an animation company’s horrific abuse of it’s employees is the sort of cosmic ironies that I live for.
The employee abuse controversy was a big part of Arrowfell's poor sales, but it didn't help that it came out the week before Pokémon Scarlet and Violet either 💀
@@dylans.1741 Also God of War Ragnarök released five days before Arrowfell was released too. It was sandwiched between two popular IPs so I knew it wasn't gonna stand a chance in terms of sales.
@@averageanimefan519 As if it wasn't enough of a death sentence to go up against Pokémon, Arrowfell got brutally murdered by Kratos too 💀
GOWR, Bendy and the Ink Machine Sequel, and that Pokemon game literally oblirerated the fucking Arrowfell game, it was dead on arrival when it release in that timeline 😭
@@dylans.1741 lol Wayforward never changes
I love how it’s always like
“Here is a video game about our famously combat centric show!”
“How is the combat in the game?”
“Oh, just the worst! Why do you ask?”
“I got my guts rearranged several times” -Critter 2025
I came to the comments just to see if someone notice what she had said
That sure does mean something else most of the time
I want that phrase framed on my wall
First time Critter made me go "AYO???"
I'll cherish that.
Pause
“Why is such perfection stuck in supplemental material?”
Yep. A side character that looks to have way more care and interest put into them then the actual Maine characters.
Sounds like RWBY in a nutshell to me.
Maine!? bro is giving me rvb flashbacks
I am glad an evil union guxy is stuck there, and of course it has an evil union guy. Yay great politics reee.
But Briar could make sense, hell cou could play as brir even.
they even could have an optional encyclopedia to explain stuff
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RT has a habit of taking complex story elements and completely dropping the ball.
The white fang and Faunus inequality and racism.
Abandonment issues.
PTSD.
Family abuse broken family ties.
Unions and social inequality.
Decent into madness and self harming.
Is it any wonder why people want the show put in the hands of better writers?
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It is a shame that team Briar is used so few times. Especially since they were the selling point of the game.
In other news, bisexual Critter confirmed?
I remember seeing Arrowfell's graphics for the first time and thinking "this looks like some WiiWare game from 2010." I still hold that belief to this day
It was made by Wayforward. Their artstyle is ery distinct. It does look like their 2010 Shantae revival,which was a 3DS Eshop game. So you're not off-base. It very much feels like they put their b-team on this sothey could have their best on th games they actually wanted to make.
@littlekuribohimposte To be fair, Arrowfell looking like an old WiiWare game is completely up to you to decide whether that's a good or bad thing. I never said it was necessarily bad after all
There are some pretty great former WiiWare games that leant hard on low rent visuals like Max and the magic paintbrush and the bittrip runner games, among others, so it's low budget visuals doesn't excuse it's so so gameplay.@@dylans.1741
So, the moral of the story, is that the game is exactly like RWBY proper
1) Team RWBY feel exactly the same except for minor differences
2) Interesting ideas are thrown to the wayside
3) Pretty girls get redemption but not the men
4) Side characters thrown away so Team RWBY can be the blandest MC's
5) It's fine, but you're not gonna play or watch again
Honestly, making a Union leader a villain is pretty par for the course with RWBY's writing. Well that and having the female villains be redeemed.
Also, I never would have expected a Ben Drowned reference coming from you. Nice!
I'm confused what gives Union Leaders supposed immunity to becoming villains? Like, I understand Unions are an objectively good thing, but I don't understand how that makes them exempt from being potential villains? They could have unionised for hundreds of different reasons and corruption can appear absolutely everywhere.
@@kingofflames738 Because the ONLY union leader is a villain, the only portrayal of a union leader in anything RWBY is a villain
Yeah RWBY wants to be this progressive show about being yourself and is pro LGBT+. But then botch handling themes of racism with the White Fang and then this union. The writers could easily make these two organizations be cults/union busters/supremacy groups etc. But they villainize the groups instead and don’t try to show all sides of everything. Yeah Ghira is supposedly is peaceful protester but we never see him actually do anything. He scolds Adam for killing a man who was gonna kill him. Sienna’s violence was getting stuff done compared to him. Blake admitted it herself in Volume 1. And then the White Fang got written out once the writers realized they fumbled hard.
@@averageanimefan519 Like if the White Fang was in the middle of a political schism. Half of them wanting to remain peaceful and strive for slow, gradual changes that will benefit Faunus in the long run, versus the more violent members who wanted action now and didn't care whether it was out of respect or fear.
It also makes no sense for Adam to kill Sienna. She's just as militant as he is, and is actively encouraging his acts of terror across the world (because that's what Adam's missions boil down to, acts of terror. Death for the sake of death, destruction for the sake of destruction). Did he think she was going soft by... Not declaring war on every single nation at once? Surely even someone as idiotic as Adam knows that if they did that, it'd be marching the entire White Fang, and potentially all Faunus, to their deaths.
@@averageanimefan519so it was a Martin Luther King Jr & Malcolm X type situation, where there was no clean situation.
The big problem being violence can incite further hatred and persecution and peace marches run the risk of being ineffective unless you show any bite.
Violence to achieve your own goals is a major part of fascist ideology, did the writers not realise that?
I mean I'm not against political violence if needs be, but it and it's potential aftershock need to be seriously carefully considered when planning, I'm beginning to think these writers don't know how extremist politics work.
I hate to say it but your complaints about the platforming difficulty were hilarious at first because that jump with Ruby's dash was incredibly reminiscent to that one Cuphead review people memed to hell and back. I doubly hate to say it because the rest of the footage very much makes the issues clear; this game plays like Blasphemous, except instead of the Penitent One, you play as Little Mac on Smash Ultimate, with zero jumping ability.
Also, the moment they mentioned Fifestone was a union leader my smile lit up like radiant sunshine. They're doing unions now? After they did civil rights, and after they did class warfare, and after they got in trouble for the way they did both, they're doing fucking _unions?_ And then Fifestone shows up and he speaks like an anime villain who literally _feeds on fear?_ That's _so_ fucking funny.
Lol it definitely doesn't help that I'm just super bad at platformers too. Like as I was editing, I kept saying "wow I sucked at this game!" XD
As soon as Ironwood said union leader I started cackling. Fifestone is also one of the few black people in the franchise, there's so many layers to this lmao. Unintentional or not RT really wore their bullshit on their sleeve the whole time, people just didn't want to see it lol
@@Auzzymandias people only choose to see what they wanna see. its why i really love that people dont realize that clark kent is superman. sure, the only things that change is his posture, his mannerisms, and his wearing glasses, but its enough for people to not want to see him as superman, so they dont see him as superman
@@MasquedMochaTo be fair, I don't think all people do that on purpose. Everybody's susceptible to Confirmation Bias; to see only what affirms our positions, and avoid anything that challenges them. The idea is, once you realize that this is what you're doing, you take steps to FACE that opposing information if only to accept reality as it is. At that point, THEN it becomes a choice.
Also, you reminded me of something funny. IIRC, DC made sure nobody in-universe put two and two together via Bizarro. He USED to look just like Superman at one point, so people saw both Clark and "Superman" at the same time. And noooooooobody suspected Clark Kent ever again...
Dumb, but funny.
Take a shot every time Critter says "really really" lol
I don't wanna die XD
Only if it’s a shot of sprite
38:08, I walked past my pc and thought you were joking and summarizing pennys character and double took the screen seeing it was legit the text, word for word.
I’d pay you to describe that Fire Emblem-esque RWBY game idea in detail for hours.
Sounds amazing.
I second that notion, I wanna see how creative this could be!
I second this. Show us what you're cooking.
I agree. Both on the premise that a RWBY tactics game has a lot of potential given the immense cast of heroes and villains, and that it'd be fun to listen to someone tell me why it's such a good idea.
A FE RWBY GAME!? SIGN ME UP
I concur
*VEHEMENTLY!*
0:37-0:40 “ A week later it was on sale for Blake's birthday and I was annoyed then shortly after that RT fell apart and then it was on a super sale because of it and I was even more annoyed than ever.”
-If you have a Crunchyroll membership, then you can play Arrowfell on Crunchyroll’s Game Vault for free.
[14:02] If you go frame-by-frame by using the “.” or “,” keys, then you can see the Goliath’s left foot clipping into the ground.
15:41-15:44 “This guy rolls up and is like get out of here”
-And this guy is voiced by Yong Yea
24:20-24:27 “While doing a side quest for this I want to say hamster girl she helped Blake upgrade her semblance somehow”
-I would like to point out this continuity error for this side quest being that Winter has Blake’s bow even though Blake toss it in the ocean.
[31:32] For added context for Roane’s text blurb, it was Ruby ask how do you tell the Rs in “BRIR” apart from each other. Even though Ruby was in “RNJR” and I just realized Miles and Kerry didn’t alphabetically sort Rs in “RNJR”.
35:07-35:17 “Team BRIR are actually like guardians of Arrowell or something I guess Ironwood didn't know this because his predecessor d1ed before telling him”
-I don’t believe this justification because Ironwood knows about the maidens, relics, Salem, but not the secret of team BRIR. Also why did BRIR not go to Ironwood because trusting him makes a lot more sense than Bram Thornmane.
[35:33] For context, team BRIR had broken up, rescinded their roles as guardians, and gave RWBY their jobs. If want to know how not to endear your audience to character, then a good start is making them give up and do nothing.
43:00-43:03 “It's just fine I don't think I'd be itching to play it again anytime soon”
-Well that’s more than game’s director did because he live streamed this game, stoped playing, and never bothered finishing it.
Lol that last sentence is hilarious. Don’t blame them though, this game looks tedious.
Regarding the two Rs in RNJR think, I suppose Ren not being the leader is obvious enough that it is fine but with BRIR neither R is the first letter/leader so it is more ambiguous.
(Of course nothing tops Team SSSN or Sun lead by Sun Wukong, which is so bad that I am pretty sure I have seen multiple AUs turn it into SSNS Seasons and at least one have Scarlet be the leader.)
I can’t wait for you to make Cerise a main character in Reversed Fates
this gonna go so hard
I have seen a lot of reviews saying that you only need Ruby in the game with the other girls only being useful for certian tasks...so the first time Ruby was the focus of something since the Beacon days was an outside source game
If you did make a video about a fire emblem style RWBY game and talked about it for hours, I would absolutely watch that.
Imagining an SRPG set during the Fall of Beacon, focusing on all the characters as they try to escape the chaos... that would be amazing. Fighting through hordes of Grimm as you try to desperately escape with the Teams that are split across the entire school. Now THAT'S a cool idea.
Your RWBY videos never fail to make me laugh, never change Critter, never change.
Did you see the Paladins x RWBY thingy? the Yang skin literally summons a grimm dragon to ride. my favorite moment in the show
I think the only reason why they paired Yang with Imani was because of how she plays outside of using her ultimate, having gauntlets that shoot elemental blasts. But if you think that’s weird, they gave Qrow a gun
@@minecraftWithDanielDit's weird Corvus was the character they chose for Qrow.
@@dragonborn7955 indeed. He should have been a skin for Zhin. That would have made a lot more sense. But I think they also wanted to push more modern characters
I forgot this game existed, but I do remember RWBY being featured in Blazblue Cross Tag Battle.
Second reason I bought it!
First was eshop sale
XD
Another arcsys game, and they have plenty of fun interactions with the other characters, and their movesets are unique. Yang is an in-your-face reka fighter, Weiss is more technique based with good zoning, Blake is a glass cannon and Ruby herself is the all-rounder with a lean towards offense. Neo's in the game too, and she plays like you'd expect. Just dodging and weaving. A good Neo can basically NEVER be touched
I love that you started making more video game reviews, they are really cool and insightful. Especially since you actually talk about all aspects of them in such great detail
This game looks like a shovelware franchise tie in game for the DS. Not even the 3ds.
Visually? absolutely not. This games graphically and artistically pretty too look at. Better than the show actually, Team Rwbys expressions are vibrant and well expressive.
This game can suck and still look nice
BBtag still has the best rwby portrayal in any official supplemental media ever
But it isn't shovelware though.
citter sees random not very important wolf women npc: i would both die for you and kill for you!
very based
So what I'm getting is the Team RWBY girls in this game have the exact same issue that the old Ninja Turtles game on the nes had, IE: it is objectivley miles better to play as a few specific characters and only use the others when you have to. Glad to see this game has the exact same fucking issues as a Nintendo Entertainment System from 1989.
This has to be a budget/time/interest thing. I've played other metroidvania games from Way Forward and their alot better, serioussly if you want a better stage based platformer metroidvania thing from this team play Shantae and the Pirates curse; it's cheeper and you will have infinitly more fun with it.
According to someone else in the comments the game director played it but then never finished it. Didn't help this game was coming out the same time as stuff like Pokemon SV, God of War Ragnarök and Sonic Frontiers.
Honestly Arrowfell annoys me not just because it's a boring game but also because it continues the trend of RWBY's extended universe having infinitely more interesting looking characters and story ideas. Like remember the villain in grimm eclipse? his whole deal if I recall was that he viewed the Grimm as a superior species to humans and faunus that was a legitimately unique idea too bad they do nothing with him and keep him locked up in that game. The same goes for arrowfell so many interesting looking characters with cool semblances and a admittedly interesting concept for a plot completely wasted and stuck in a mediocre game.
It's kinda one of the bigger problems in RWBY's writing, and one of the reasons it sticks around. It's not a story; it's a fanfiction generation engine.
The writers of RWBY created a number of interesting ideas and had no interest in following up on *any* of them, because they weren't part of the story they wanted to tell. And these writers are utterly incurious and completely unwilling to acknowledge that they stumbled into a good idea that they should follow up on. If it wasn't part of the plan, then they ignore it.
Any writer not them who is allowed to play in RWBY's universe therefore has a veritable cornucopia of good ideas to pick from and develop. But RWBY's writers are too busy writing their half-assed ATLA fanfiction to every notice any of that.
@GeneralBolas and like that's the saddest thing about this series, isn't it? The most enjoyment you'll get out of it is fanworks because the team actually making the show was just that incompetent when it came to the writing.
@ To me, the saddest thing about the series, from a writing perspective, was the realization that, after 10 years of writing "professionally"...
They're still amateurs, making amateur mistakes.
Writing is a skill. Even for those with little talent, if you do something long enough, repeat a process enough times, you *should* get better at it. Right?
But they haven't.
Oh, they've gotten a bit better. They aren't making *all* of the same mistakes they did. But Volume 9's mistakes are largely mistakes they've made over and over again.
They started this process as an amateur, so amateur mistakes are expected. But that was *ten years ago.* There's no excuse for it except sloth, a complete unwillingness to actually learn their craft.
And you can see this in how they respond to criticism, and there's no better example than Ironwood.
I suspect that in Volume 7, they thought that they had written a heroic character turned to full-on villain. They thought that they'd presented the story such that everyone would see that Ironwood was the badguy by the end. But then they saw a lot of criticism on that point, how he had a genuine point.
The writers could have taken this as a lesson and took the opportunity to actually embrace the moral greyness they had created.
But they didn't; they doubled-down on the villainy in V8. And... well, that's laziness. Or closed-mindedness.
Sloth.
Not once have these writers tried to improve their skills. I doubt any of them bothered to read anything on the art of writing in their 10 years of doing it "professionally". They write something and never really think about it. Whether it's because they're intellectually lazy, have no time to reflect on their creation, or just already think they've done a good job, at every turn, they have displayed a complete disinterest in learning their craft.
I feel for them in the beginning. They weren't writers, not really. They had this thrust upon them. And RT's production processes in those days were probably a nightmare (and probably even later on too).
But there's no excuse for not getting better after so long.
@GeneralBolas it's simply a case of no one telling them no. Miles and Carrey would tell Monty no when they thought certain ideas wouldn't work, but there was no one like that for them. The entire team was surrounded by yes men, and thus, when they got criticism, they simply ignored it and decided to only listen to the toxic positivity the Fandom had been consumed by. Not understanding that said Fandom never really grew. Rwby had always been kinda niche even back then. The fanbase it had only ever remained stagnate or shrunk. They didn't wanna accept that aspect of rwby and only wanted to listen to the praise the series got. Never wanting to acknowledge how bad the show got because they only wanted to listen to how good of a job they did.
@@GeneralBolasRWBY has big fanfic scene but they don't really matter nor do they bring in money, most people got into RWBY because of its amazing action scene and the potential world building, and also because its very accessible because its on youtube, when the animator passed away you just get a niche show with potential that it failed to lived up to because the writer can't commit to exploring theme they set up alongside their over the head ambition of expanding the cast instead of developing the character that is already there.
take that niche show, remove the reason why its popular in the first place: its accessibility and then you get a dead show because not many people would want to pay for cheap web show who lost its only assured draw: the fight scene.
3:17 I would actually like to hear about you talk about what you would want a turn based Rwby game to be like cause I think it would be awesome since I love Fire emblem and you have fun ideas
Me too, I still remember someone made fan art of RWBY characters with fates classes (alongside boons and banes), and it’s been stuck in my mind ever since
@yoshidoor5229 That is so cool, I remember seeing a Rwby mod on one of the fire emblems games
@@rosey8453 oooo was it Visitors from another world? (V.O.W edition)
@yoshidoor5229 I don't really remember but I think it could has been
Y'know, it's really funny how Ruby just sits still while swinging the Crescent Rose. Imagine if you could press the Gun button while swinging the Crescent Rose in order to get backwards momentum, acting like a back dash. Or if you could press the Jump and Gun buttons simultaneously to get a super jump (since you'd be shooting downwards, giving you upwards momentum). That would give it a better "RWBY" feel.
Also I love the Strategy RPG idea for RWBY. I looked into game development last year. If I get back into it I might just take that idea LOL. Imagining an SRPG set during the Fall of Beacon, focusing on all the characters as they try to escape the chaos... that would be amazing.
I know that you said that you are bad in plataform games...but OH MY GOD, IT PUT ME SO ANXIOUS WATCH YOU PLAY
(Good video btw)
7:05 Critters bisexual awakening lol
Nah, that’s *GOTTA* be Coco😂
@@Simpltn-vidsevery rwby fans bisexual awakening.
You can't move when you jump which is so annoying and most characters are useless.
Either you're using Blake's clone to do double damage in combat or use Ruby's dash to skip past enemies.
Something like dynasty warriors or devil may cry/bayonetta would be perfect for the serie's style of fighting, and yes Grimm Eclypse does exist and it's ass but give it to someone that actually knows what they're doing and it could work perfectly
taking cues from DMC and Bayonetta for a RWBY game is such a banger idea. apply the spectacle fighting game mechanics to the spectacle fighting show is genius. brother, you might be cooking
Or heck even a fighting game akin to something like Blazblue. Rwby's video game outings are so odd to me because there's so potential with the IP but all we ever got was a incredibly repetitive hack and slash, a terrible gacha game, a boring platformer, and a incredibly odd guest appearance in Blazblue crosstag.
I'm keeping my eyes on VA Proxy for this reason. It caught my eye when I saw the tweet showcasing being able to PARRY A NUKE (and even fall damage!), but later on they showcased a rework of their scythe combat, which felt like it took a lot of cues from Crescent Rose. They even played Red Like Roses' climactic finale during the showcase, so they know what they're doing there haha.
@@nightmarearcade2663 Not to mention the DC deckbuilder derivative game RWBY Deckbuilding game (which shut down), plus the China exclusive gacha game, and also a RWBY Chibi puzzle game of some kind??
IDK why RWBY is always saddled with fully derivative clone games. There's so much potential.
@Aigis31 I can only assume budget reasons because from what I recall, rwby just wasn't all that profitable for rooster teeth. Thus, it's likely they just never had the money to hire a developer to make a more ambitious project.
I’m curious if you’ve considered checking out Zenless Zone Zero. Its story feels like RWBY if RWBY was planned out and written decently, can still be f2p, and has some great character designs even after the fanservice. Plus, it’s semi open world hack-and-slash for its gameplay.
If you want to get more specific,
Honkai impact 3rd,
Feels more similar to Early RWBY:
High school setting,
Evil Forces threatening Humanity,
Each Character got Special Super Power,
Dead Mother,
Red Hair girl Sacrificing themselves,
A Professor wearing Glasses,
And Ships, LOTS of Ship's....
I agree Zenless zone zero really does feel like Rwby but better, and it so much fun!!
@@bimoprasetyo6862 Bro might be cooking, hold on a minute
@@bimoprasetyo6862Hoyoverse is the Anti Rooster Teeth lol
both are indie company
Hoyo almost get bough by big company but they preseverve unlike rooster teeth
Hoyo main draw as company is that they have *healthy work enviroment* as in no overtime or crunch unlike rooster teeth
I just gotta say that Cerise's design looks like a good mix between Little Red Riding Hood and the Big Bad Wolf, which is a better twist on the story then just "what if the girl had a girl".
Grimm Eclipse had so much potential, I loved it. Needed more content though, and since It was pretty much abandoned it never stuck.
They must've blown all their budget getting Dave Fennoy to voice the evil scientist dude. But yeah would've loved to see some more maps/game modes and some cleaned up combat.
@@Auzzymandias Definitely! had they kept to it we could have had more maps, maybe more unlockable characters that involved the other seasons locations. I didn't like the ranking, it was very grindy with very little pay off. Would have been more worth it had we gotten more. It had a lot of potential and it just got abandoned :( I wont even try arrowfell, doesn't seem worth it to me
My new headcanon is that the reason Ironwood doesn't know about team BRIR is because his senior kept them as undocumented workers so they could get away with undepaying them.
12:56 Phrasing
Fun fact: in my script I was originally going to say "It seems like the grimm need to be up her a** to land a hit." But I felt like that was a bit too crude so I changed it lol.
@thejudgmentalcritter6584 omg I can't tell what's worse 😭. Love the vid!
Could be better than saying ‘getting your hands dirty’
@@thejudgmentalcritter6584that's would have been hilarious line delivery 😂
"Unlicensed Huntressess working as mercenaries" so mercenaries?
I think this game's greatest contribution was giving us a fully detailed map with Solitas. Despite the somewhat same-y environment design in the levels themselves, adding surrounding villages, blue collar workers outside the SDC, and the Arrowfell facility did a lot to add to the lore.
Yes, thank you! I absolutely agree. Surely there's more to see in this kingdom than Atlas and Mantle.
I didn't even know RWBY had a game so this a really fun surprise
There are two RWBY games(well, three if you count that crossover with Blazblue and Persona) but believe me, you're not missing anything.
@@VigriffThere used to be four actually 🤓.
Amity Arena, a clash royale clone. It was pretty good
3:24 Hey wait I wanna hear about that hypothetical FE RWBY game. Future video maybe??
RWBY Arrowfell feels like missing episodes of volume 7
Which makes no sense, if you take the timeline of RWBY very seriously
Honestly by this point Warner pulling the plug on Rooster Teeth was a bummer but I can't say I didn't see it coming
3:20 Me, I want a Weapons based fighting game. Soul Caliber but RWBY, that would be fucking sick.
The way I immediately knew where this was going the moment unions were mentioned, oh my god
Arrowfell just sounds like an Underfell AU lmao
38:08 CRWBY really has a sharp humor when we talk about Penny man...
Like when Ruby yelled break a leg to Yang and then she did proceed to break mercury’s leg.
If you think you getting the game is rough, feel bad for those that ordered all of the Special Edition stuff from that company. Apparently, they had to wait a whole year to get it after the official release. I actually enjoyed the game. It was very short, but i think that's the norm for these type of games. Yang i'm pretty sure i only used for the puzzles. Blake and Weiss are the one i used the most i believe due to the fact that if you stand on the same spot as Blake's clone, you ar essentially doing double damage and Weiss glyph basically does damage while i run like a coward.
Yes, Ruby's semblance sucked in the beginning.
Yes, the drill guy is annoying.
I honestly wish we got this as Volume 7 instead of the trainwreck that was the original one.
I wonder if they are ever going to try their luck with games or if they are gonna stick with books due to Viz Media.
Small nitpick: why is Weiss taller than everyone but Yang in the gameplay model? And I'm not talking about her braid; even if you just measure from the top of her head, she's suddenly super-tall.
Right? Like isn’t Weiss actually the shortest girl of both teams. Even over Nora? She’s only partly taller because she wears high heels.
What's wild is that RWBY is pretty much more inspired by games than anime seeing all that inspired Monty before and even during his work on the show, but this feels like something that was relegated to Wayforward's C or D team. The abilities being the most baffling parts.
Like, RWBY should be able to just double jump with her semblance, same with Yang, Weiss could do it and create platforms at the same time. Blake could use her ribbon to grapple onto the ceiling and swing around, maybe pull in enemies. Does she even get her fire clones that explode, which is the most video game ability ever? Let alone more basic stuff like wall jumping or sliding, don't remember if you can even crouch.
It sucks that you gotta talk about stuff like this before even reaching stuff you'd want to see like, maybe summon characters to help, have Marrow show up and freeze all the enemies on screen, or have Jaune show up and recover all your aura. Team BRIR was so prevalent on the marketing, you'd think they would be playable, and considering how shallow your gameplay options are, not having a single unlockable character is a real shame.
It’s really weird they put so much emphasis on Team BRIR but then they barely show up and hardly do anything. I remember in RT’s dying days the last prices of merch for RWBY that weren’t being sold was their merch.
I am perfectly willing to let you cook and share that RWBY as a Fire Emblem-esque RPG/Strategy game concept.
So, in a world where the characters are fast and super strong fighters, they make a platformer? Why not make it like Dmc or Final Fantasy XVI, multible open spaces designes as a level but with alot of freedom in the combat department. Ruby is the fastes of the four but does decent damage, Weiss uses summons to help her fight opponents but still uses her rapier, Yang does boxing mixed with shooting and she gets stronger the lower her hp goes, and Blake is an agile fighter that distracts the opponents when the dodge was right on time. Just an idea
You've never played a metroidvania or a platformer with combat have you?
@@Gunn3rGuru The point he's trying to get across is that RWBY is the kind of series that would be better off as a Dynasty Warriors/Bayonetta/DMC kind of game. The kind of games that meshes well with RWBY's combat flow.
@@Gunn3rGuru It doesn't matter that "platformer with combat" is a genre that's been done well before, the point is that's not a genre that suits RWBY
I think that would require money RoosterTeeth never had even at their prime.
Ngl if they wanted to make it a platformsr I’d just have only Rwby be part of it coz ngl her semblance is cool for that zooming all over the placr
It feels like Ruby should've had a charge up dash, that lets you cross the large gorges. Doing it in the air, it slows your fall so you can shoot forward. Her gunshots should be faster and do more damage the further she is.
Blake should've at least had a double jump, and her shadow clones should let perform a dash/air dash. On the ground or in air, it gives I-frames to avoid getting hit.
Weiss should have the ability to create multiple glyphs, maybe 3-5 to create platforms or explode into ice. But the ice explosion should have a button prompt, otherwise, the glyphs fade after a few seconds.
Yang should have a larger aoe explosion from her semblance. Her gunshots should have mid range but explode.
I think Blake's shadow clones can be used to double melee attacks. As I've said before though, I've not played this game. So don't quite me on that though.
Heh, I noticed the Goliath is misnamed. That's a Megoliath. (Fuq, I'm such a nerd. 😫)
16:48 - I expected a "okay I believe you" meme. lol
Would love a video about your fire emblem rwby idea!
Having finished the game, I am now happy to watch this review.
0:58 - You know you're in for a good time when the start menu is as boring as boring can be with absolutely no atmosphere, good soundtrack, or effects for the UI. Doubly so if the start of the game is just a text screen full of info that the characters will eventually repeat anyway.
2:10 - Having the game's main theme play during gameplay IS cool; the entire 3D 'Sonic' series can attest to that. But, since the stage is so simple and inconsequential, it feels more like they realised they couldn't afford an actual opening so they just slapped the theme where they could. This is not the game's only signifier of how cheap it is.
2:49 - I'm sorry to hear that. I like platformers but I'd like to see more platformers with an action focus that use the mobility for the combat, like 'Guacamelee!' or 'Kingdom Hearts'. Also, I think the musou genre would do 'RWBY' fantastically.
3:25 - Shame the characters are all functionally identical and the only real reason to swap between them is when you need a specific interpretation of a key to open a specific interpretation of a door. The only character worth maining is Blake because she can use her clones to attack enemies while staying out of their counterattacks (and they ARE distracted by clones, mind; bosses will lock onto the clones instead of Blake while they're active). Ruby will be the second-most used character once she's upgraded because she can simply Petal Burst through enemies and bypass them entirely, saving you lots of time you'd otherwise waste.
7:00 - I'm still baffled that these games drown you in fetch quests layered inside other fetch quests.
10:00 - YES! It's bloody absurd how long the hitstun is. And the heart system is absolute rubbish. Who designed this? And everything else about the game? It's even more annoying that shooting enemies costs energy, as if shooting wasn't useless enough already.
11:11 - I'm not at all opposed to supplemental material taking place somewhere other than Beacon. It's just a shame that we're shown so little about the world of consequence.
11:59 - That just feels like the writing of 'RWBY' in general. Also, the tech level is all over the place. These people dress like vikings; am I expected to believe that there isn't a sprawling metropolis of technology literally within view of this ice fishing lake that probably has warm clothes right there?
14:14 - I do not like their designs at all, except for Roane Ashwood's glowing hair. Especially Bianca's belly ring that seems to be sewn in between her shirt. They're all hideous shades of green. I complained about this to someone and they went "They're all themed after plants, that's why" and it made me wonder if we ever saw another team in 'RWBY' that was all themed after flowers and still had diverse themes and colours. What do you thing, Ruby Rose? Blake Belladonna? Myrtenaster of Weiss Schnee and Ember Celica of Yang Xiao Long?
18:15 - Eh... I think it's olive. Hard to tell with the lightning and shading of her eyes. Maybe she could have it ON HER CLOTHES?!
19:29 - I think this game is a Metroidvania in the loosest of senses. I think it's more like if 'Crash Bandicoot' forbade you from going to new levels until you got the coloured gems in the old one. There's no sense of exploration or empowerment here; it's just all... eh.
20:38 - I never got a Game Over while playing and I never knew it was that bad. Where are the bloody checkpoints or autosaves?
24:04 - MORE FETCH QUESTS! NO WORLDBUILDING! ONLY FETCH QUESTS! WHO IS HANLON FIFESTONE? NO ONE CARES! ONLY FETCH QUESTS!
24:31 - Of course you don't because the gameplay doesn't evolve or change; you start as you mean to go on and the only thing that changes are enemies that you deal with the same way as you did before.
26:32 - I'm so sorry that no one told you that Blake could use her clones to attack Hanlon while you stood out of harm's way.
33:04 - Not only that but it's said to hold experimental research and... aside from the orbs, that's it. It's just typical robots. Nothing revolutionary that would justify it being experimental. And how exactly were they planning to use the orbs aside from Hanlon's semblance, anyway?
41:11 - Would you like to know what his semblance is? So would I, because it's never told to us in any way. I guess it might be his arrows but who's to say that's not a quirk of his weapon, or something along the lines of what Hanlon's doing in his fight? Or how Bianca flies across the screen in the Team BRIR fight?
In any event, he's such a disappointment. He's the FINAL BOSS of a 'RWBY' game and all he does is use Cinder's old weapon, have Watts' spite, and the plan of "Unleash Grimm all over the place" that every other leading villain in the franchise has had.
I think you're way too gentle with this game. I regularly play games by solo indie developers that are better than this. WayForward regularly make games that are better than this. Jesus Christ, this game is a failure on every level. I couldn't even recommend this to 'RWBY' fans for its awful combat, copy-pasted levels, threadbare story and world-building, meaningless progression, and anything else that eludes my mind at this time.
3:10-Nice image of Blake cosplaying as Kelthuzad, Ruby cosplaying as Illidan, Weiss cosplaying as Arthas, Yang cosplaying as Deathwing and Penny cosplaying as Garrosh. I wonder which RWBY character would cosplay as Archimonde, Kil’Jaeden, Sargares, Sylvanis, Azarha and Xalatath.
3:14-What about a RWBY game that’s similar to Baldur’s Gate 3?
15:50-I also notice a lot of character model inconsistencies in the Sly Cooper Trilogy in terms of in game and animated cutscenes.
16:19-Lots of other animated superhero shows have different art styles like Super Man, Batman, Spider Man, X-Men, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Transformers, He-Man and Thundercats.
23:53-Nice use of the FF7 victory theme.
31:07-A new character with an interesting character design existing to sell merch? Where have I heard that before?
31:14-No wonder this game didn’t do so well in terms of sales.
42:14-It’s almost like Stolas from Helluva Boss accepting the consequences of his actions and being at fault for what he did to his family.
oh I thought people were joking about the union leader villain thing since I wasn't familiar with the game. RWBY why are you like this
Ask CRWBY.
I always say this, let the people who make Devil May Cry games create a RWBY game. DMC got just as many ridiculous weapons as RWBY, demons are basically Grimm, and the combos would be INSANE! Also, both franchise thrive off the Rule of Cool. It's a match made in Heaven or Hell
7:56 "So thanks to Cerise the beautiful goddess of my love
If people are talking about what type of game should've been made with RWBY IP then I'll go with my most wanted option (and the one that fits RWBY the best in my opinion)
GIVE. US. A. RWBY. FIGHTING. GAME.
No BlazBlue Cross Tag doesn't count because RWBY only collabed with it, it's as if You would call Smash bros a Metal gear fighting game. I mean a full on fighting game with a full lineup of RWBY stages, ost, game mechanics and characters with original move sets that fit the characters. I'm passionate about this subject and no matter how awful this franchise is I WILL pop off if it ever gets announced
BlazBlue Cross Tag may not count but it does at the very least prove your exact point. If the RWBY girls can work as guest fighters for another franchise's game then yeah they absolutely would work in a fighting game that's /actually/ about their series.
9:35 I don’t think that’s how most people use that phrase
So I've got notes...
That hole pliteral text setting you up? Could be a cinematic of the girls talking. Like start off with an action sequence with some dialogue about "Finally being huntresses" and "We've come really far from back in the academy!"
But after seeing the rest of the game and remembering what IP we are talking about... Yeah, not much to do to fix this
Welp critter I’m stealing that lovely fox lady design
Some notes:
-iirc you don't have to go to save point each time, just getting out of level and back in should save your progress
-While I agree yang is useless in combat weiss and blake do have their uses:
--Blake's clones do same dmg as her in malee so using her clones in path of enemy or in place is quite usefull if enemy stands in place and you pop both clones you get triple dmg
--Weiss's glyphs are usefull if you wanna play it safe and have place in ambush area where enemies cant attack you
---Also Blakes clones block projectiles which is usefull in the train segment
Other than these things I agree with this review
This review is whatever to me and it comes from someone who seems to not understand platformers and how she legit didn't level up Blake despite her being extremely broken.
I just realized why the screen goes black when your heart is taken out...
I was like "wait... doesn't that happen in megaman?"
Then I realized that both the gameplay and the bobble head proportions are very Megaman ajacent .... especially Ruby shooting her gun as shiny ball pellets
but thats just what I think
You should absolutely make that video better Rwby turn based RPG
Regarding character usage, I used Blake most of the time because she’s balanced, my favourite of Team RWBY, and her shadow attacks too meaning you can stack damage against bosses.
I saw it was a sidescrolling platformer and I got excited! Then I saw the gameplay and that enthusiasm drained immediately.
Probably one of my favorite things I've noticed in this game is that their idle animations I feel is a reference to their BlazBlue Cross Tag Battle sprites, I love that game!
I'm glad this game is better than Grimm Eclipse but I do hope that if there ever is a chance of another RWBY game it'll be a lot more fun. Regardless of my opinions of the show I love the idea of a good RWBY game and I do get excited seeing RWBY Crossovers. The story doesn't have to be good or anything complex, having good gameplay is all I'd need. ;; Hopefully some day
You did a great job with this video, a lot of fun to watch while drawing!
I think Thornmane was rejected because he was insane and Ironwood made an excuse to dismiss him.
I can imagine an amazing metroidvania style game featuring beautiful pixel art of the RWBY characters and settings. Instead we got two low effort cash grab games 😢
I think people are too harsh about Grimm Eclipse, regardless of its quality, it had more variety than Arrowfell can ever hope to have, so I can respect it for that alone
3:17 Please, talk us about this idea for hours
as both a RWBY and FE fan I would LOVE a whole video describing how a turn based game would work
In fairness, I enjoyed Grimm Eclipse for a time. I liked it more in its original version as a fan made game, and the brief demo they had at RTX though.
Btw, as mentioned RWBY Arrowfell was released in November 2022. November 15th to be specific. In the same week, Goat Simulator 3, Pokemon Scarlet/Violet and Warzone 2.0 were released.
The Week Before: Sonic Frontiers, Atari 50, Sifu, and God of War: Ragnarok.
Arrowfell costs $29.99
Grimm Eclipse: $19.99 Standard/$22.99 Definitive
Sonic Frontiers was peak.
I agree with you that a RWBY turn-based/tactical rpg would be a great idea. I think a mix between Fire Emblem and XCOM would be perfect for RWBY.
All they needed to do was a decent hack n slash imo
I love all the designs of the side characters and NPCs. Team BRIR is sick too minus the fact they are not dressed for the cold.
One thing I should note that this game was made by Wayfoward. The same people that made Shantae, and the Mighty series. They’re far better than what THIS is.
It isn't their best but not that bad.
RWBY would go hard as wuthering waves combat like game
It would yeah. You wouldn’t even need a Rover style character I don’t think.
Imo zzz combat fits better as being forced to swap to parry and not being bound as much by rotations fits better to how team centric the show was
@@kurodo9926 I feel that would better, ZZZ is a lot more fast paced and smoother then Wuthering Waves, so it could also work.
Heads up about the button layout thing: The Switch itself lets you do that in the settings with some pretty robust options.
3:17 actually in that same vain when Marvel's midnight sun's was being talked about. i was thinking about what series would do well with an X-COM style game and RWBY was the first thing i thought of
I need a review of Grim Eclipse by Critter like yesterday!!
Cerise looks like Xayah from league of legends.
As for a RWBY srpg game, I wonder if something could be made with rpgmaker?
Would love to hear your ideas for that.
23:48 I hate rooster teeth so much... 🤦♂️
Don't we all.
Will you touch zenless?
Is rwby, but smaller, with a budget, and not spinning out of control
I'll be honest, every time I see a character from ZZZ in motion, their zany, extra personalities just makes me grimace. It just doesn't seem like it's really up my alley.
@thejudgmentalcritter6584 valid
But in the game proper is not more agressive than the average trigger anime that is the other half of the game dna
Honestly after playing Zenless Zone Zero, screw MMORPGs, screw turn based games, just copy ZZZ but with RWBY characters like how Amity Arena was a Clash Royale copy and we're good
Either that or a 2D fighting game like Blazeblue CTB but fully RWBY please, I'm convinced if RT was still alive they'd be making a hero shooter or something right now, they seemed genuinely allergic to making a good game
4:45 TBF mimic beacons are notoriously hard to balance properly, even if this is a platformer and not squad tbs
Its interesting seeing an opinion of RWBY: Arrowfell from someone that is having a hard time with the game. Keep it up!!!
7:03 And Cerise Claire is stuck in this game forever 😢 Hope she is in Volume 10
I think the game focusing on BRIR would’ve been so much better. Can you imagine all the cool puzzles you could have with underground tunneling and whip portals? Huge missed opportunity imo. Then again they completely botched the much simpler stuff they went with, so I don’t even wanna think about how jank that would turn out.
It’s a shame RWBY hasn’t gotten a truly great game yet because the formula seems so obvious? I’m not sure if it was something on RT’s end or on the people they chose for development, but the games feel like they were made out of obligation rather than of passion.
Also the FE RWBY concept would be cool to hear about!!
Who did what with your guts?!
You gotta go to a different kind of website to see that.
I know! It's horrible. 🤣
Critter! You could have chosen literally any other expression!
34:38 So now I will talk about what grinds my gears about this game. I never played it; I just watched the cutscenes and some gameplay footage when I was confused. The cinematic cutscene placements are awful and actively harm peoples ability to follow the story. As for the cutscenes, we have BRIR Set up, Glass Boss Fight Intro, Ironwood briefing, Union Boss intro, Union Boss Conclusion, train fight, and Ending.
Like, I get they had limited resources for what are a really small game, and the promise of cinematics similar to the show would be a neat selling point, especially since we were in a content draught at that point, but if you're not going to use them well it's just a waste of money.
Like the cutscenes would've been Beginning, Boss Intros, Boss Conclusions, Ending. Cause without that structure we get a villainous team of huntresses that get defeated in the cutscene equivalent of off-screen and its Jarring
I remember when “Arc system work rwby game.” Was announced in for like 15 minutes. I was super excited hoping it would be a blazblue style fighting game. Then I saw wayforward and just walked away.
I think the main issue with this game is that I came out after atlas like the jl movies
Yeah I love Oscar he's my favorite I like him more then Ruby Weiss and Blake I wish I could give him a spin off book or something
But then I feel like Oscar is an afterthought even to the writers that seem to care about him I remember one of the Oscar fans back about a year ago when
the Oscar fans were doing a lot of cameos with Miles cuz unlike all the other Ruby fans Oscar fans save their money cuz we don't have any merge to buy so we all kept
asking him different questions about Oscar and somebody asked when Oscar's birthday was and they said he doesn't have a birthday but the only thing we can conclude
is that Oscar's birthday must be around the same time as Ruby's because he turned 15 around the time she turned 17 and that's all we have to go on sadly
And this is what's frustrating we don't see anything with Oscar or know anything about him I know more about cinder and emerald two side characters then I do Oscar a person who's more tied to the plot than even the main character herself
And then there's the whole thing where everyone is even more convinced to send some concept art came out for Janue that Oscar wasn't supposed to be a character to begin with that Jaube was going to be the next ozma/ oz
And even if he was it doesn't matter now cuz we have Oscar and yet we don't focus on him you know who would have been more interesting going to the ever after or being in a game Oscar we could have used Oscar as a starter
character since he doesn't have a semblance or anything and hell we could have used the game to hint at what his senblance would be eventually by using him as a starter character
This is why I left RWBY I now Oscar will nvr get anything I still love him and oz but instead of ever getting anything on either of them we keep getting new characters half-ass
development in relationships with the main characters that I think a lot of us just really gave up on a long time ago and now they're bringing them back up for no reason
And boring grim fights and now that we're going back to vacuo with all the V1-3 character that everyone really wants to see
like team sssn ,cfyv and Raven I don't think will see Oscar do anything just sitting there merging with oz and then at the end it want matter if it's Ozpin or Oscar caz I don't trust the writers to do either of them right so what's the point
It's such a shame because there's some ideas introduced in this game's story that could've been cool if done well or expanded upon.
I also find it hard to believe this game and Grimm Eclipse are supposed to be canon when the events of both are never mentioned in the show.
If it was me writing a fanfic of this game's ideas I would scrap this story and do my own thing. I think it would've been more interesting to make Arrowfell a rogue branch of the Atlesian military with Thornmane at the helm, who was the former headmaster of Atlas Academy but chose to resign after coming to the conclusion that the Atlas government was too restrictive on huntsman activity and that meant his hands were constantly tied between following the law and doing what he felt was the right thing.
His sudden departure is why Ironwood is simultaneously a general and headmaster of an academy; no one else was suited for the role of running the academy and most of Ironwood's peers are politicians who have no training and thus have no business running a monster slayer school so he had no choice but to pick up the reins and improvise.
He idealizes Ironwood's dedication to his job but opposes him as a matter of principle. He along with Olive who is a friend and was part of his own team at school works with Team Briar; a team of senior year huntresses who were recruited after being expelled from Atlas. They acted against direct orders of their teacher/supervisor during a mission which resulted in expulsion. Sort of like a "What if Ozpin wasn't so lenient with Team RWBY after the mission gone wrong in Volume 2?" scenario. After Thornmane heard the news, he came to them a proposition to work for him with less rules and added pay, which they accepted, because who would pass up on that offer?
They hunt Grimm and on rare occasions take up contracts to kill rogue huntsman, bandits and other rogue types from Atlas' criminal underworld, which has them labeled as mercenaries by the general public.
They also have a rivalry type thing going on with the Ace Ops, but always manage to escape being apprehended.
I have other ideas in my head but brainstorming is difficult.
My ideal RWBY game is something like Attack on Titan 2 game where you can have an OC and their POV to reenact the show itself but it's your OC till the end of the Season 2 story. And RWBY has the best first level with the Battle of Beacon with the locker being your customisation screen, help you design your OC with gender choices, even body builds from having tall and lanky to a short and rotund, picking out your weapon, even fighting style, of four styles; sword, polearm (scythe, giant hammer, etc.), melee (weapons that are attached onto your hands like Tyrian's or Vernal's), or gun-fu (with pistol whipping or rifle swings, even AoT2 allow you to use guns in its gameplay).
And the story will be simple, going to Haven Academy to continue your education and earn your license.
-Interacting with Team RNJR and getting involved with their fights.
-Help Oscar out on reaching the train station but your reason for not boarding is you either don't have any money or get robbed which leads to a chase scene, and afterwards, it's your choice to either stay at the station to do Huntsman work but with less pay due to not being licensed, or travel down to do work on the way, either way you will be stop at a certain destination.
Two choices between Human or Faunus;
Human: Encounter the Branwen's Tribe, even helping them out on something for safe passage.
Faunus: Help the White Fang and members to aid you to safe passage.
The main villain is a male serial killer based on the Headless Horseman who wants to be like Tyrian. While two main antagonists are; a White Fang member who's Adam childhood friend and help him but give us an explanation of his downfall, based on the Ugly Duckling; a Branwen Tribes member who's village been destroyed by Grimm and absorbed into the tribe, allusion of Bilbo Baggins.
The Battle of Haven will serve as the story climax, and you'll face all three main adversaries of the game with two of them helping you out by beating the Headless Killer.
I remember seeing the trailer, then completely forgetting the existed, til like a few weeks ago
Very minor observation, but did they just run out of ideas and give Thornmane the same weapon as Cinder? Two swords that turn into a bow.