Perch Protection: gift an extra turn to player who's abot to die. also: gift an extra turn to the player to your right, which will scare the shit out of the two players to your left and going at him/her. love this card.
Man, I was really excited for the Animated Army deck, but I was pretty disappointed when the deck got revealed. After seeing gameplay videos with the deck I’m back to being excited for it again.
I like War's Toll in Bello. Stops the blue player from keeping up mana and youre going to have a lot easier time attacking than your opponents since most of your board will be indestructible. Probably want to find a way to tap Bello or make him evasive if you do this though Edit: With all the trample youre adding should also add Ohran Frostfang. Deathtouch Trample is stupid good
Just got gifted the 4 bloomburrow commanders decks. Excited to try. Still gotta find that white deck we made waaaay back when. Hope ya'll are doing well.
I think you are spot on. Family Matters and Peace Offering are easily the over better decks. People just don't like them because of reprint value (Family Matters) and group hug (Peace Offering) not being usually too exciting and powerful. Squirreled Army has a lot of good reprints and Animated Army is really strong and simple out of the box. Making it easy for beginners. I think that the other two commanders have way more upside and in the future see more higher level play.
Might have cut too much ramp with bellow. The thing about this deck is it's really dependent on the commander. And he's gonna get killed. The ramp helps cast him again asap.
@@undeceased4574 Not the two mana artifacts, that's why you didn't see him cutting Gilded Lotus, for example. I'm surprised he didn't replace any of them though with Three Visits or Nature's Lore though,
I’d probably go molten gatekeeper in place of the Purphoros or more likely in place of the impact tremors as redundancy that’s more synergistic. Impact tremors you can’t copy and Purphoros copy would die to legendary rule I think. Could be wrong about that second part. Also in any red deck where you can make lots of copies in a turn I really like devilish valet as a payoff. It’s also one power for the synergy and can end games or draw removal while keeping your commander on line.
More often than not, there are misconceptions about the precons. One such example is peace offering from the new set. The deck once year to accumulate counters by group hugging Your opposition. think of it kind of like a magician waving his hands in front of your face while his assistant pulls rabbits out of her butt. you have no idea what's going on and by the time you figure it all out, he has a million rabbits running around the stage. My upgrade package will focus more on exponentially increasing counter accumulation without taking away from the group hug aspect of the deck. and I know some people think the toad was a bad idea. but for deck like this, it is absolutely perfect. but the way I would set it up is play a land or something else that removes your maximum hand size. as early as possible preferably. then, it would look like I'm just playing the game and have a a handful of cards. All along, I am biting my time. I will also be adding some counter spells that cannot be countered. so I can protect the toad
@@googloocraft1217 when I think of counter accumulation. I'm more than likely thinking about something like branching evolution, primal vigor or in keepers talent.
11:55 I’m going to disagree with you this replacement. Dictate of the Twin Gods is inferior to City on Fire because it has convoke and your enchantments can help pay for that convoke cost and it gets animated by Bello. Then instead of Sarruk and Goreclaw, how about Nylea, God of the Hunt? She’s lower cost than S&G, and while Bello will cut her to a 4/4 on your turn, he gets her to ignore devotion requirements and gives her haste.
In bello im worried the deck won’t have enough ramp with that many of them cut and so many high cost cards . Ramp is really important in decks like that . Makes me think of my baru deck with high cmc wurms. Needs lots of ramp and has a lot of those power 4 or greater cards in it
Could Ocelot Pride work well in the family matters precon, as a 1/1 itself that can make copies of the tokens you created that turn. If you are able to offspring it and have the cities blessing the turn it comes in you'll end up with 4 of them at the end of the turn.
I know it's personal preference, so take this with a grain of salt, but seans counter intuitive to rip all of the group hug from the group hug deck. And the memory card...eye-dead-ick (phonetic) memory.
I understand your thought. I will say, however, that even a group hug needs to be able to close out. He pulled a lot of group hug cards, but if you keep in more targeted group hug it works better. Folks will attack you if you're helping everyone because the first place guy just gets farther. If you select who you're helping, you build stronger alliances. I've tried to do super group hug "everyone have fun" builds and usually I either get knocked out early or have helped others build so much that I can't get better than second place.
Next time, maybe put a limit on the number of cards or budget. Because you didnt do an “upgrade”. You essentially rebuilt them from scratch when you replaced around 60% per deck.
very funny that you threw almost every "good Reptint" out of the decks. For me it underlines the sense of arbitrariness that wotc has done with the decks
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Family Matters: www.moxfield.com/decks/ylqFsSQJKUmNvGM_kjlz0A
Squirreled Away: www.moxfield.com/decks/WAQld_acI0eoLFylUtqHfA
Okay, you actually got me excited about Animated Army. I cannot hide my Gruul nature. I love the card type "Creature".
The deck is absolutely bonkers. I got it on pre release and it's the most fun I've had playing commander in a while
Loved your take on some of the Peace Offering precon upgrades. Was unaware of some cards like Court of Garenbrig and On the Trail until this video.
Scryfall is your best friend
Perch Protection: gift an extra turn to player who's abot to die.
also: gift an extra turn to the player to your right, which will scare the shit out of the two players to your left and going at him/her.
love this card.
Man, I was really excited for the Animated Army deck, but I was pretty disappointed when the deck got revealed. After seeing gameplay videos with the deck I’m back to being excited for it again.
yeah that deck can smash for sure
You can put like $40 of upgrades and completely dominate
Just what I was looking for.
you found it!
I like War's Toll in Bello. Stops the blue player from keeping up mana and youre going to have a lot easier time attacking than your opponents since most of your board will be indestructible. Probably want to find a way to tap Bello or make him evasive if you do this though
Edit: With all the trample youre adding should also add Ohran Frostfang. Deathtouch Trample is stupid good
Just got gifted the 4 bloomburrow commanders decks. Excited to try. Still gotta find that white deck we made waaaay back when. Hope ya'll are doing well.
Mirkwood Bats would go great with the food strategy!
Just Wanted to say thank you Sir, for your great Work Here.
Good ideas. Thinking of picking up the top 2 you listed, but they all seem cool.
I think you are spot on.
Family Matters and Peace Offering are easily the over better decks. People just don't like them because of reprint value (Family Matters) and group hug (Peace Offering) not being usually too exciting and powerful. Squirreled Army has a lot of good reprints and Animated Army is really strong and simple out of the box. Making it easy for beginners. I think that the other two commanders have way more upside and in the future see more higher level play.
Might have cut too much ramp with bellow. The thing about this deck is it's really dependent on the commander. And he's gonna get killed. The ramp helps cast him again asap.
Yeah plus all those artifacts he’s cutting are 4/4 creatures when Bello is out on your turn.
@@undeceased4574 Not the two mana artifacts, that's why you didn't see him cutting Gilded Lotus, for example. I'm surprised he didn't replace any of them though with Three Visits or Nature's Lore though,
I love this video and this kind of break down. Would you consider putting the upgrade price in the future?
I’d probably go molten gatekeeper in place of the Purphoros or more likely in place of the impact tremors as redundancy that’s more synergistic. Impact tremors you can’t copy and Purphoros copy would die to legendary rule I think. Could be wrong about that second part.
Also in any red deck where you can make lots of copies in a turn I really like devilish valet as a payoff. It’s also one power for the synergy and can end games or draw removal while keeping your commander on line.
Asceticism could be really good in animated army, all your creatures gain hexproof also applied to your enchantments seems great in that build.
Omg hell yeah. That's def an inclusion
Except for 3 of the 4 turns on a table they aren’t hexproof since they aren’t creatures
@TheOtherDoughnut but during those turns they also aren't creatures. Meaning opponents can't use creature removal against them.
Bello numero uno☝️🏆
Bello come il sole ☀️
More often than not, there are misconceptions about the precons. One such example is peace offering from the new set.
The deck once year to accumulate counters by group hugging Your opposition. think of it kind of like a magician waving his hands in front of your face while his assistant pulls rabbits out of her butt. you have no idea what's going on and by the time you figure it all out, he has a million rabbits running around the stage.
My upgrade package will focus more on exponentially increasing counter accumulation without taking away from the group hug aspect of the deck.
and I know some people think the toad was a bad idea. but for deck like this, it is absolutely perfect. but the way I would set it up is play a land or something else that removes your maximum hand size. as early as possible preferably. then, it would look like I'm just playing the game and have a a handful of cards. All along, I am biting my time.
I will also be adding some counter spells that cannot be countered. so I can protect the toad
Which cards were you thinking about when you said : ''exponentially increasing counter accumulation''?
@@googloocraft1217 when I think of counter accumulation. I'm more than likely thinking about something like branching evolution, primal vigor or in keepers talent.
11:55 I’m going to disagree with you this replacement. Dictate of the Twin Gods is inferior to City on Fire because it has convoke and your enchantments can help pay for that convoke cost and it gets animated by Bello.
Then instead of Sarruk and Goreclaw, how about Nylea, God of the Hunt? She’s lower cost than S&G, and while Bello will cut her to a 4/4 on your turn, he gets her to ignore devotion requirements and gives her haste.
Bright cap Badger, easy cut to add to Ghave!
I will only put cards from the set into these precons and im only going to play them all together
That sounds like a slug of a game. But good luck.
So stunning so brave
That would be easier with the old theme decks and 60 cards.
Next to impossible with commander, and a limit of 1 copy per card.
Cringe 😂
@@trenchaus how is having only artwork from this set in the precons cringe. Im building these for my granddaughter
Are the commanders in the precon Full Art this time??
That would be so cool
They are! Those are what was featured in this video
@@JakeandJoelareMagicnice! :D thank you 👍🏼
In bello im worried the deck won’t have enough ramp with that many of them cut and so many high cost cards . Ramp is really important in decks like that . Makes me think of my baru deck with high cmc wurms. Needs lots of ramp and has a lot of those power 4 or greater cards in it
Could Ocelot Pride work well in the family matters precon, as a 1/1 itself that can make copies of the tokens you created that turn. If you are able to offspring it and have the cities blessing the turn it comes in you'll end up with 4 of them at the end of the turn.
Very good… if you have the money
Watch me build the most kitted out Bello deck the world has ever seen. You all aren't ready for the raccoon.
Great video. Thanx.
Thoughts on adding Glorious Sunrise to the Bello's deck?
Seems like a good one to try out!
The gift giving deck doesn’t have glunch ? And you didn’t add it ?
Why didn't you use Unnatural Growth in the first deck? It's an Enchtment that cmc of 5 and doubles all your creatures power and toughness each combat?
Already in the deck
I'm curious to see the curve on this curve on this deck with all the 2 drops gone LOL
I know it's personal preference, so take this with a grain of salt, but seans counter intuitive to rip all of the group hug from the group hug deck. And the memory card...eye-dead-ick (phonetic) memory.
I understand your thought. I will say, however, that even a group hug needs to be able to close out. He pulled a lot of group hug cards, but if you keep in more targeted group hug it works better. Folks will attack you if you're helping everyone because the first place guy just gets farther. If you select who you're helping, you build stronger alliances. I've tried to do super group hug "everyone have fun" builds and usually I either get knocked out early or have helped others build so much that I can't get better than second place.
Fair points.
Add them to the pile of precons Joel 😂❤
two small suggestions:
Assemble the Legion for Zinnia's deck and Ygra, Eater of All for Hazel's deck?
What do you think?
After watching this, Hazel seems like the deck I'm least likely to enjoy. I've never been into Food tokens.
Really glad to see that the full art foil commanders are legit and not a fakeout. This only makes sense when they're designing a face commander.
They also took away life counter from the precons, so that’s the least they could do
Take it to the streets!!!
The Zinia deck really could have been built better
No kykar? 46:28
Next time, maybe put a limit on the number of cards or budget. Because you didnt do an “upgrade”. You essentially rebuilt them from scratch when you replaced around 60% per deck.
Get rid of the bat, leave Chittering Witch.
Oof on the rankings.
very funny that you threw almost every "good Reptint" out of the decks. For me it underlines the sense of arbitrariness that wotc has done with the decks
First
I think Bello will be going out with the nev disk every day.