Noahides were never commanded by God to offer sacrifices for sins. Genesis 4 - this was simply a burnt offering and has nothing do to with remission of sins Genesis 8:20 - this was simply a burnt offering and has nothing do to with remission of sins Job 1:5 - this was something that Job did voluntarily and has nothing to do with a command from God Job 42:7-9 - this was a command from God for SPECIFIC people and it was an offering for falsehoods these people said against JOB (not a sin against God) Jonah 1:15-26 - this was not a command from God, they men made the sacrifices voluntarily And before you try and say that blood was always needed for the remission of sins - look at these videos where I show that to be a FALSE statement. th-cam.com/video/StRwTDziPsQ/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/BJwiuQFdi6o/w-d-xo.html th-cam.com/video/tqUQjaqwvD8/w-d-xo.html
@@rachelesther00 Genesis 4:7 specifically mentions sin. Why are gentiles offering sacrifices? Who taught them? Why was God responsive when they were offered? Blood is needed to atone for sins. Leviticus 17:11 2 Chronicles 29:23-24 1 Samuel 3:12-14 All humans are sinful; Jews and gentiles alike. Psalm 14:1-4 Ecclesiastes 7:20 2 Chronicles 6:36 Genesis 8:21
@@GodlessJudaism The Midrash says Noah’s burnt offerings atoned for the curse of the Earth (Bamidbar Rabbah 14:12). Was Noah sinful? Psalm 14:1-4 Ecclesiastes 7:20 2 Chronicles 6:36 Genesis 8:21
@@johnmann8659 Yes Genesis 4:7 mentions sin, but you are completely ripping it out of context! This takes place after Cain kills Abel which is the sin God is talking about to Cain. This has NOTHING to do with the offerings given freely by Cain and Abel. Humans do all sorts of things whether they have been taught by anyone or not. No, I don’t think God actually taught them to offer sacrifices. God was responsive because they were making sacrifices specifically to connect with God. It is really that simple. Obviously you didn’t even watch the videos I referenced in my other comment. No, blood is NOT required for forgiveness of sin. Let’s get this straight - the commandments from the Torah (outside those I already specified are for Noahides also) are ONLY FOR JEWS. RE: Leviticus 17:11 If we look at this verse IN CONTEXT we see that it is really referring to the idea that blood is the life source and this is why we are forbidden to offer sacrifices anywhere other than the Tabernacle (and later the Temples) and why we are forbidden to eat blood (Leviticus 17:3-4, 8-14). We see that this verse in context is not only referring to sin sacrifices. It is really only offering an explanation and command that the sacrifices must be offered in a specific way and only offered to God. This is NOT a statement about blood sacrifices being the only way to have a remission of sins. This command is about the sanctity of life. The blood is the life of all living creatures. This is a command against murder and the harming of humans and animals. Sin sacrifices are to be brought by someone who UNINTENTIONALLY sins and the sins are made known to him. (Leviticus 4:27-28). Nowhere in the Tanakh does it say that blood is the only accepted form of atonement for sins. It was not the blood that cleansed the people. It was the teshuva - repentance. Those who bring sin sacrifices must also repent of their sins. Repentance also atones for sins (II Samuel 12:13). Devotion to God also atones for sins (Micah 6:6-8). Prayer to God also atones for sins (I Kings 8:46-50). Charity also atones for sins (Daniel 4:24). RE: 2 Chronicles 29:23-24 Again, IN CONTEXT we see this is done for purifying the Temple and the people (so they can come to the Temple) because of its defilement by King Ahaz. RE: 1 Samuel 3:12-14 There is NOWHERE in these verses that it is requiring a blood sacrifice. IN CONTEXT, this is specific only to the house of Eli and their punishment. I NEVER said that humans weren’t CAPABLE of sin. However, mankind is NOT born sinful. This is a LIE of Christianity. The term “original sin” is unknown in the Tanakh and is antithetical to the core principles of the Torah and the prophets. People have the ability to choose to follow Torah and the mitzvot of God. That is the heart of the Jewish understanding of free will. All people are descended from Adam, so no one can blame his own wickedness on his ancestry. There is no concept of “original sin” in Judaism. On the contrary, we all have the ability to make our own choices, and we will all be held responsible for the choices we make.
What sacrifices are the Noahides currently offering to atone for their sins?
Genesis 8:20
Job 1:5
Job 42:7-9
Genesis 4:1-10
Jonah 1:15-16
Noah brought up burnt offerings, not sin offerings.
Noahides were never commanded by God to offer sacrifices for sins.
Genesis 4 - this was simply a burnt offering and has nothing do to with remission of sins
Genesis 8:20 - this was simply a burnt offering and has nothing do to with remission of sins
Job 1:5 - this was something that Job did voluntarily and has nothing to do with a command from God
Job 42:7-9 - this was a command from God for SPECIFIC people and it was an offering for falsehoods these people said against JOB (not a sin against God)
Jonah 1:15-26 - this was not a command from God, they men made the sacrifices voluntarily
And before you try and say that blood was always needed for the remission of sins - look at these videos where I show that to be a FALSE statement.
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@@rachelesther00
Genesis 4:7 specifically mentions sin. Why are gentiles offering sacrifices? Who taught them? Why was God responsive when they were offered?
Blood is needed to atone for sins.
Leviticus 17:11
2 Chronicles 29:23-24
1 Samuel 3:12-14
All humans are sinful; Jews and gentiles alike.
Psalm 14:1-4
Ecclesiastes 7:20
2 Chronicles 6:36
Genesis 8:21
@@GodlessJudaism
The Midrash says Noah’s burnt offerings atoned for the curse of the Earth (Bamidbar Rabbah 14:12).
Was Noah sinful?
Psalm 14:1-4
Ecclesiastes 7:20
2 Chronicles 6:36
Genesis 8:21
@@johnmann8659 Yes Genesis 4:7 mentions sin, but you are completely ripping it out of context! This takes place after Cain kills Abel which is the sin God is talking about to Cain. This has NOTHING to do with the offerings given freely by Cain and Abel. Humans do all sorts of things whether they have been taught by anyone or not. No, I don’t think God actually taught them to offer sacrifices. God was responsive because they were making sacrifices specifically to connect with God. It is really that simple.
Obviously you didn’t even watch the videos I referenced in my other comment. No, blood is NOT required for forgiveness of sin. Let’s get this straight - the commandments from the Torah (outside those I already specified are for Noahides also) are ONLY FOR JEWS.
RE: Leviticus 17:11
If we look at this verse IN CONTEXT we see that it is really referring to the idea that blood is the life source and this is why we are forbidden to offer sacrifices anywhere other than the Tabernacle (and later the Temples) and why we are forbidden to eat blood (Leviticus 17:3-4, 8-14). We see that this verse in context is not only referring to sin sacrifices. It is really only offering an explanation and command that the sacrifices must be offered in a specific way and only offered to God. This is NOT a statement about blood sacrifices being the only way to have a remission of sins. This command is about the sanctity of life. The blood is the life of all living creatures. This is a command against murder and the harming of humans and animals.
Sin sacrifices are to be brought by someone who UNINTENTIONALLY sins and the sins are made known to him. (Leviticus 4:27-28). Nowhere in the Tanakh does it say that blood is the only accepted form of atonement for sins. It was not the blood that cleansed the people. It was the teshuva - repentance. Those who bring sin sacrifices must also repent of their sins.
Repentance also atones for sins (II Samuel 12:13). Devotion to God also atones for sins (Micah 6:6-8). Prayer to God also atones for sins (I Kings 8:46-50). Charity also atones for sins (Daniel 4:24).
RE: 2 Chronicles 29:23-24
Again, IN CONTEXT we see this is done for purifying the Temple and the people (so they can come to the Temple) because of its defilement by King Ahaz.
RE: 1 Samuel 3:12-14
There is NOWHERE in these verses that it is requiring a blood sacrifice. IN CONTEXT, this is specific only to the house of Eli and their punishment.
I NEVER said that humans weren’t CAPABLE of sin. However, mankind is NOT born sinful. This is a LIE of Christianity.
The term “original sin” is unknown in the Tanakh and is antithetical to the core principles of the Torah and the prophets. People have the ability to choose to follow Torah and the mitzvot of God. That is the heart of the Jewish understanding of free will. All people are descended from Adam, so no one can blame his own wickedness on his ancestry. There is no concept of “original sin” in Judaism. On the contrary, we all have the ability to make our own choices, and we will all be held responsible for the choices we make.