Sony FE 24-70mm F2.8 GM II Definitive Review: Best Standard Zoom Ever?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 ก.ค. 2024
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Table of Contents:
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0:00 - Intro and Concept
2:00 - Build and Design
7:45 - Autofocus
10:55 - Image Quality
22:50 - Conclusion and Pricing
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A usual top quality review, Dustin. A treat to watch. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for another excellent review .........and yes for that rowing machine ad !
Thanks for the feedback on both parts. I'm enjoying the rower.
I can only assume that Sony has hired the best lens designers in the world over the past few years. They’ve gone from being good enough to being market leaders.
Probably Tamron is used for the heavy lifting. They have a high market share of various oem optics. That type of synergy brings the ability for high end computation design and rapid development R&D. Also allows Sony to field test the various dive configurations and an understanding of longevity under Tamron branded products
I think there's probably some truth to both of your points. Sony has seriously picked up their game, and I do know that Tamron has been a good asset as well.
Are Roccor (excellent minolta) and Konika, too far back to be credited for ?
(That crash-change though was traumatic for the Minolta crew, I thought to have learned some day), don't know if they recovered).
I had the feeling Tamron catched up since Sony, and that they where certainly not bigger than the forementioned - but regarded as cheep as then Admiral, Sigma, Soligor, Vivitar; "a bunch of amateur copiers, con artists, for the non-professionnel fools". When did Sony get into Tamron ? Well I guess I should let tchatgpt dive into that. lol
stunning review
Thanks
Interesting, I always thought the G was for Grand. The GMII lenses do seem to be the best across the board just incredibly expensive.
It's funny how those assumptions spread on the internet and become the "Gospel truth". And yes, the most recent GM lenses are typically the best of their kind, but not cheap.
I always thought that the G meant ‘Gangsta’, and hence found the marketing strategy to be questionable.
Lens technology continues to improve and this lens is a perfect example, razor sharp and very nice bokeh.
Exactly.
Nice review as always, will you review 70-200 GM II in the near future? Eager to see that one.
It will come next week.
Thank you Dustin! I already own this lens, and it is really amazing. Actually i also have the Tamron 35-150... I bought the 24-70 for underwater use... But it now happens that i pick the 24-70 more often. I find the size, autofocus, and colors more atractive. Thank you for tthe years of your great reviews... You are my personal choice
You can use a Sony camera and the gm ii under water??
@@sukhrajsohal1397 not by itselfs no, please don't try that lmao. You need an underwater rig of some sort
@@sukhrajsohal1397 with underwater housing :)
Thanks for the positive feedback and for clarifying about the housing for the commenters below!
Great review! This lens is on my wishlist and will be my next purchase. I'm curious what mini tripod this is that you have in your video?
I did a little review of it here: th-cam.com/video/BKzrWnwTI0g/w-d-xo.html
thanks for the review. I couldn't take my Eye off the tripod leg closest to the edge of the table ... a little too close for my comfort 😮
I get that periodically, but it isn't as close as it seems.
same on my side 😅
Richard Staszewski, Calgary
I've always appreciated the level of detail you have gone to in your review of cameras and lenses. So with this in mind, and the new crop of magnetic circular lens filters recently come on to the market, would you please do a comparison of the new Kase Wolverine Revolution system vs. the new Maven magnetic system. In particular: construction ( how strong is the magnetic connection ) and as important if not more so, which system has better color cast control.
Hi Richard, I can’t make any promises. Most of my filter reviews come because the company has contacted me and asked me to do a review. I don’t necessarily have a retail source for these companies, and it would require a big expenditure for me to do the review under those circumstances.
@Dustin Abbott I understand, but for whatever reason you do get your hands on both systems, know that a comparison will be much appreciated, thank you.
Mines on the way! 70-200ii rendered my 85dgdn and 135gm just not needed.
My 50 1.2, 24-70ii and 70-200ii….I’m actually good. And 2 ad1200s😂
And my a7riv is in the zone right now. Shot some pointe dancers the other day and it’s so fast…these lenses are just unreal.
What a luxury
The new generation of autofocus on the lenses and cameras is just exceptional.
Very good review! 👍Do you think that this lens fits to a Sony A7 IV or do you need a high resolution camera to take advantage of the lens performance? Best regards!
It would work just fine on an a7IV.
13:09 Does the Sony In body correction do a better job? That sure is better than the smartphone lenses usually get, horrible wave distortion, and correcting does not help much.
I currently shoot on an A7 IV with SEL85F18 It does not seem to have any distortion. Got both second hand fro ma dealer. Great lens for outdoor, but wrong lens for closeups.
I wish there were better distortion correction tools in software. I see Lightroom does not have any advanced distortion correction. But would be a good idea if there was corrections for all types of distortion.
Sony's in camera correct tends to be very good.
This video makes me excited for the 16-35 gm ii
Didn't that recently come out though. So I doubt there will be a 16-35 gm ii.
@@ElReySupr3me 16-35gm came out in 2017, and there's already rumors about 16-35gm ii, so it should be coming in the near future.
I wouldn't be surprised to see the MK II either later this year or early in 2024.
@Dustin Abbott dang that far? I mean it's speculation. Sony alpha rumors said it'll be announced end of Feb. However I know about there "accurate" reporting.
Dustin, I am gong to be honest, but I really did not like how this lens does not get down to 20mm. I find this focal length ideal when shooting video as I need that extra bit to compensate for the stabilization crop. It is interesting at 2:27 how you mentioned that this lens is heavier than the original GM -- I think this is a mistake in your communicating. I think this lens is probably ideal for portrait photography -- perhaps some landscapes too that allow for 24mm.
Did you use animal eye AF at 8:42?
I really wish they made a motorized version of this lens like they did for the 16-35mm F4.
I would greatly appreciate if you check out some of my recent videos by the way. Any feedback is appreciated :)
My language isn't quite clear there, but I was making the point that the difference between the new lens and the older GM was even more than with the Sigma 24-70mm. And yes, I did use animal eye AF for those shots.
Great thorough review. Is it worth the upgrade from tamron 28 75 g2 to bring my IQ forward on an A7.4?
I don't think you'll see a huge IQ improvement, to be honest. There are plenty of ways where the Sony is better, but the Tamron is already very good optically.
@DustinAbbottTWI many thanks Dustin for taking the time to respond. I look forward to your reviews of items that interest me. Pouring over your 17 to 50 tamron at present as I have the 17 to 28, 28 75 G2 and the 50 to 400
Thanks, Dustin! This was awesome!! I have the lens and I love it. I have a question please - I’m pretty new at this, and will be shooting some video and stills indoors for an upcoming gig. I was thinking of using this lens - or buying either the Sony 50mm 1.2 or the new Sony 50mm 1.4. If I buy one of the two primes, I only have the budget for one. Do you think the 24-70mm gm ii will work well indoors? (I have only used it outside.) Or should I bite the bullet and pick up one of the primes? If so, which one? Thanks so much for your guidance. 😊
In many situations an F2.8 aperture is fast enough, particularly since modern cameras focus well in poorer light and deliver quite good results at slightly higher ISOs.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks! I shoot on the A1, so it seems like I'll be in good shape. Appreciate your response. :)
I have this one on the A7R V and I shoot indoor gigs with no pb :)
@@sebastiengarsia7022 Thank you, Sebastien - I appreciate you letting me know :)
The 50mm may be too restrictive unless you have full control over your subject distance etc - zooms offer far more flexibility. A slightly noisy shot is better than a missed shot.
Hi Dustin, I'm not sure if it was intentional, but this video can't be found on your video feed as it's currently 'unlisted'. Just thought I should let you know! :)
That's correct. I share it with the public according to my schedule, but let people find it from my text review in advance (like an Easter Egg)
It reminds me of a thinking person’s suspense where the audience has to work hard to reap the reward. Your a great teacher 😂
what is that tripod?
Did you ever notice right side, especially top right side being less sharp at > 50mm? Would be noticeable at landscape infinity shots and stopping down does not help a lot. It seems there may be high variance with some decentering or tilt in these lenses
I didn't notice it on my review copy.
@@DustinAbbottTWI The closer a lens gets to perfection, the more problems we get. Corners used to be mushy all around on standard zooms and noone complained. Now we complain when one side is slightly less sharp at 50-60 megapixels. However Sony is charging a premium for it :) I'm a prime guy so maybe my expectations are too high but internet is full of top right side issues with this lens so it's not just me that's paranoid or OCD :)
@@DustinAbbottTWI so being an engineer with a huge passion for photography and unlimited geek levels, I have compared A to B right edges (not corners) of 3 (one mine) 24-70 GM II from different batches and years in the Sony experience center in my country. One was slightly worse than the others in overall sharpness but all of them had a softer weaker right edge (on the last 15% horizontal of the frame). Pretty evident at 50 megapixels on A1. What does this tell us? Sony is intentionally designing the faults of their lenses in a way to maximize real world use case performance. Not all landscapes are shot at infinity at 70mm with detail on right edge. To mitigate this, at least stopping down to f8 is required, stopping down less might even make it worse. These lenses are really optimized for wide open shooting and may not be the ultimate landscape lens when stopped down but they are the ultimate 24-70 GM II. Gone are the times where with the 5 6 element simple designs we know that stopping down will always improve the photo. These lenses are correcting all aberrations in weird ways at the same time juggling between different shortcomings due to their computer generated designs.
It's an exciting time to be a photographer and a terrible time to be a quality assurance person when people can use 60 megapixel bodies to scrutinize your products. In the end it barely matters :)
how is the build quality and long term physical reliability of this sony lens and the sony a7 iv compared to the canon r6 ii and the canon rf 24-70 f2.8
I've owned several Sony GM lenses that have held up fine, as have my Canon L series lenses. I don't think that's a problem for either brand.
Hi sir I'm a born again from Sydney Australia and thinking on buying the Sony A7IV with the Sony 24-70 2.8 GM II for wedding photography.
I love the accurate eye focussing accuracy of this camera but I don't know much about what Nikon or Canon offers because I heard the color science of Sony is bad. But I also heard Nikon cameras and lenses for mirrorless is ridiculous expensive (not sure about Canons eye focus accuracy)
So not sure which brand to go with so I'll need your knowledge in terms of best bang for my money. Where do you think my money should be spent the best?
How Is the reliability of Sony lens compared to Nikon 24-70 2.8 (I've had the 24-70 2.8 Nikon lenses 2 different ones that broke down on me within about 5 years of its life usage so I hope Sony lenses is reliable)
Hello, brother! The Sony a7IV has improved color science; I think you’ll be fine. The 24-70 GM II is the finest standard zoom I’ve ever tested. I’ve had no issues with long term reliability with my GM lenses.
I love your small tripod what king of tripod is that? I mean the name of tripod?
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As a hobby photographer, its really hard for me to justify almost $2000 for 1 lens. Do you feel a significant advantage in photo quality vs something like the Tamron 28-75 or Sigma 28-70 enough to justify almost $1200 more? I can get the Tamron 28-75 AND the Tamron 150-500 for the same price as just this one lens.
That's fair. It all depends on your needs and budget.
Yes for me as i have upgraded recently. Nothing wrong going with tamron. You can travel to New York in a BMW or toyota.
It allowed me to take better and sharper photos vs the Tamron 28-75 using my Sony A7C. I’m an amateur have help me gain more satisfaction with my photography and for me the cost is justified
Sigma 24-70 for around 1000-1100 is the best compromise, imho. Just have to accept the 830g weight (which is still okayish)
is your wife filipina? saw that 50 peso bill. great review by the way! fan frm the Philippines
My daughter actually brought it back to me after visiting the Philippines last year.
❤❤
I always thought GM stands for grand master 😮
If you look it up, it actually refers to Gold Master.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I never looked it up actually. Just intuitively always thought it must be grand master 😝
However good and the more excellence all 24-70 f2.8 zooms have in common, and why I dont own one anymore (except purposefully the stabilized 24-105 @ f4 for seldom classic reportage-type work) is not their steep price (since devided by 5 good 2 8 lenses the price is right, and the object is 5times smaller and lighter and still just as good),
... is that they prevent me from taking along my
f/1.2 35, 40 & 50mm, and my
f1 4. 85 and 105mm lenses,, since they are also are more difficult to best exploit at the most opportunities.
"lol"
We are so spoiled for choice on Sony now
This lens isn't parfocal like the 20-70mm f4.0 so is useless for filming actuality or observationally. Come on Sony, please give us a full frame f2.8, or even f2.0, zoom that is parfocal. Preferably one that's around 20mm at the wide end...it's so, so much better than 24mm!
A parfocal 20-70mm F2. That would be great...except it would be massive and probably cost over $3000!
@@DustinAbbottTWI A FF, parfocal f2.8 wth an aperture ring would be fine and wouldn't necessarily have to be massive.
With the small Lens Mount this lens sadly wont be in the same class as the Z mount Nikon Version
That whole internet meme just isn't true. This is the best 24-70mm on the market right now. The same meme said that you couldn't do an F1.2 lens on e-Mount, but the 50mm F1.2 GM is best 50mm lens I've tested.
Tests that I’ve seen to date put it slightly ahead of the Nikon with most metrics - while at the same time being much lighter.
This myth has be debunked over and over, time for some new material.
Please try this: Transcribe every single word of this video, including every "uh," "you know," and other mistakes that were not edited out. Read it back. Does it read like a truly professional review? Please also check out other reviewers with more than 100k subscribers. Do they leave all of those mistakes in their videos? I'm not aware of any others that do.
I realize that editing out the mistakes takes extra time. It's my least favorite part of the process. However, removing them is pretty standard for professional video because as a viewer, it's frustrating to watch videos with the mistakes left in. Leaving more than a couple of them conveys disrespect for viewers' time. I'm unsubscribing for now. Let me know if you're willing to start removing the mistakes from your audio. I'd love to come back to your channel because your content is otherwise solid.
Thanks for your input.
I don't mind the occasional uh oh. Is he supposed to read a script and sound mechanical? To note that I've yet to find a reviewer that gives a review this elaborate and articulate, with this level of presentation skills without a script in front of them. This seems like one of these comments that is meant only to offend and demotivate the reviewer rather than give actual constructive criticism. Keep up the good work Dustin! You are starting to attract jealousy from your competition, which is ultimately the best form of flattery to your work I guess!
@@ralphsaad8637 Dustin already uses scripts in some of his videos, and I do not think he sounds mechanical. I'm sad that you assume I want to offend and demotivate Dustin because my intent it the opposite of that. I'm neither jealous nor Dustin's competition. It's pretty common for folks to assume the worst motivations in people they disagree with, such as you assuming my motives. Please either stick to facts or ASK what someone is thinking before assuming.
Anyway, I've watched Dustin's reviews for years, some of them multiple times. They have great depth and solid information. I have simply become frustrated over time with the lack of editing that is fairly unique to Dustin's videos. When I watch folks like Gerald Undone, Tony & Chelsea Northrup, Jared Polin, and Jason Vong, they provide solid content but don't ask viewers to listen to unedited monologue. To be fair, I also watch Mark Galer, and he does have quite a few um's in his videos. I agree with Eddy in saying keep up the good work Dustin! Just don't neglect this editing step that's pretty standard.
@Keven Spargo I'm sorry but it's almost comical that you would put Jared Polin and Tony northrup in the same league as Dustin Abbott. While they may be good at what they do(and I do follow them), their work is mostly providing entertainment rather than accurate and extensive information. I don't think anyone who's serious about purchasing a lens would favor a review by Jared Polin (who sniffs and blows at his equipment) over that of Dustin Abbott. To note that all those you mentioned probably hesitate wayyy more while doing videos than Dustin and certainly don't express themselves as fluidly. Sometimes they even mess up the script and keep it, because it's human to be imperfect. Anyway, I'm not here to advocate for Dustin, he can do it himself if he wants yet he was graceful enough to thank you for your feedback despite the obvious attempt to be condescending. When you tell people to stop giving Dustin attention and look elsewhere for reasons that really don't make any sense, it's hardly about making assumptions, isn't it?
@@ralphsaad8637 I have never recommended that folks stop giving Dustin attention. Nor do I want to never watch his videos again. All I've asked is that Dustin edit his videos better. Simple request. If you disagree, that's fine. I'm not attacking you. Maybe stop attacking me?