As a guy who's been into F1 for a while, Been watching "The Race" for a while over there. Only source i trust to be accurate. I've been into bikes for a while but only started riding a couple years back, finally making my way to MotoGP and its been a lot to get a handle of without any knowledge. You guys are helping a lot. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep it up. Its very much appreciated and will pop off. Sincerely thank you
@@yahyarajaee5883Rossi’s ‘best friend’ and VR46 team manager started it. Uccio. Rossi thought nothing of Phillip Island until Uccio started filling his head with conspiracy theories.
Marquez said after Argentina 2015 "you see what happened.." (he ment he made me crash changing direction). After assen last corner always marc said "now i know what i need to do..". Lorenzo said many times he helped him,iannone agreed with rossi about the strange philip island behaviour and..where are honda telemetry of the sepang crash? Im not a rossi fan nor marquez,but restricting the 2015 in a "rossi started" is false and sounds so far from someone who watches races and interviews. Rossi started in Argentina,because marquez touched him as soon as rossi passed him riding almost 0.7 s faster than him
@DEVAmy69 maybe, Pecco is certainly good, but I don't see him as close to Marc, at least Marc in his pre 2020 form. I think Marc is still at least close to that level which will be too much for Pecco. I hope it is close otherwise 2025 could be an extremely boring season.
Maybe he could have an advantage at the beginning since he's very familiar with the team and the GP24 should be more comparable to the new bike than the GP23, but I can't see him beating Marquez consistently enough to beat him in the championship unless there are a lot of crashes.
I strongly belive people are overhyping the battle for 2025, looking at past results objectively, Marquez will walk over Bagnaia comfortably next season
Marc Marquez is a lot mature than he was, he's getting old and he won't be someone who would sprinkle fuel to a fire as people perceived him to be. His partnership with Francesco Bagnaia will build the healthy competition that can push the team moving forward, their ego only stays on the track.
this is especially true now that Liberty Media's had MotoGP on it's grasp after F1 EDIT : and the ongoing Rossi and his apprentices vs Marquez feud will only pouring the fuel to the fire to the whole debacle as well
What I wonder is how much nationalism will be a factor here. A Marquez known to be the rival of the greatest Italian driver of all time, joining an Italian team to fight another Italian driver who happens to be the apprentice of the first Italian driver. I really hope it´s not a factor at all (and judging for Ducatti´s excellent neutral attitude with the Martín-Bagnaia fight this year, there should be nothing to fear).
@@souradippaul3794 They could invite him for a thousand reasons and then still favor the local pilot. Again, based on this year´s impolute behaviour, I don´t think it will be the case, but who knows.
@@higochumbo8932 idk man I'm confused, cuz if they really don't want him to be champion they could've just refused to sign him, cuz it's not like there any other manufacturer at this point who is at the same level as ducati and marc could join them to beat them
@@souradippaul3794 It has a lot more value to win against against an 8 time world Champion on equal machinery. Bagnaia winning has two advantages from a nationalistic point of view: 1. Bagnaia goes from being a forgetable champion to be considered one of the greats, and 2. most importantly, Rossi retains more championships than Marquez, keeping the GOAT debate alive and with an important objective metric in favor of Rossi. Now, give Márquez 1 or 2 more Championships, and he becomes the unquestioned all time greatest, robbing Italians of the top status of their idol. That said, I still think Ducatti will simply end up accepting Marc´s number 1 status.
No. Neither are confrontational. They’ll either get along. Or not really talk to one another. I feel like Marc will reach out to Pecco more than Pecco will reach out to Marc.
3:10 pecco absolutely did mention the crashes being the reason several times, but he wasn’t going to go on a smear campaign against Martin winning because of it.
There will always be tension when the guy that can beat or is beating is right next door, u won’t see and tension now but wait until points are on offer
I’m looking forward to the pre-season testing when we’ll all decide who is clearly going to be ahead at the end of the season, based on a single time-attack at the Thailand test 😊
Only reason they’ll be a big fight between them is if Pecco does something with Alex. If they collide Marc can let it go but if something like Aragon happens again and pecco speaks about Alex like he did then then they’ll have problems
I think a lot of people are starving for the childish drama Rossi was so keen to incite and just some excitement in the sport in general. Marc/Pecco are mature adults who learned from Rossi's mistakes- they're not going to repeat them. We are in an era where athletes use sports psychologists to help them focus and manage stress. Waging war with your teammate flies in the face of that.
Can't wait to see this dream team 🙌🏻 I feel more sorry for Acosta and what's going on with KTM. Just heard that they're holding off development for 2025 until they get a clearer picture of the situation that's going on with the company. 😅
The difference will be less between the GP24 and GP25 than there was between the GP23 and GP24 but I don't think they have the riders to exploit that over a season, the odd race yes but not the season. Digia will definitely cause a few headaches for both Pecco and Marc, especially Marc. I think he still has a chip on his shoulder about the end of last year and he certainly races Marc much harder when he has the chance than others. Thats my take anyway.
The preface, I like both pecco and Marquez. So not to stir the pot, just a theory; we heard how many times pecco mentioned / blamed losing the championship in a sugarcoated way on the few times people crashed him, and pushed him wide. And with Marc being on equal machinery now, I think he’s going to be racing “the old fashioned way” more than pecco is going to like. I definitely think there will at least be some slight animosity, but not an all out war like the MM super fans are writing fan fiction about
They will have a feud. It won't look like the past because this is a new generation. We won't see the same level of cordialness. We may get three all-till dual races from them.
No wonder Simon shot me down on Twitter the other day for suggesting this. But i still disagree. They are going to try and get along. But will it last ?
I believe the only difference will be is that MM93 may not be the privileged rider in the team, that's a first. We can't say how that will turn out just yet...
Why is Paterson lying???? Mm93 being super aggressive says it all.hes dangerous I think people mistake pecco but for mehe will go down as the best championship contender out there
They always do that, people disguise his dangerous wreckless moves as “just aggressive” cuz he’s Marquez and thou shall not dare speak out against him. How about that outrageous bomb dive he did in the Ducati race of champions that crashed somebody. It’s unbelievable
i disagree this is going to blow up in a hurry Marc has nothing to lose he just wants to win again The moment is clear the championship is between them is going to blow up But that said it would be fun to watch
Well.. Rossi has himself to blame for what happened in 2015.. Pecco is not Rossi.. Though they will be tension in the garage when the two titans fight for world championship.. Pecco is amicable character unlike Rossi..
Are you sure watching the speed of that 2023 bike down the straights I reckon it had upgrades no doubt.2025 will be rubbish as Aprilia and KTM plus the other manufacturers are so below par against Ducati it will be a 2 rider race a manufacturered 2025 moto gp world champion
3:10 probably Pecco has been more polite in the International field. Here on the italian channel and with the italian journalist he seemed really pissed and much complainer against the Marquez brothers
I certainly think there’ll be some sort of feud especially if Marc in his first season with the Factory Ducati team wipes the floor with Pecco. However I do think they’re also very capable of keeping the rivalry civil
Wrong.. Marquez started it by refusing to accept his own stupid mistakes in Argentina and Holland, where afterwards he blamed Rossi for derailing his 2015 title challenge and brought his puerile butt hurt to the table. As we all saw, this ended up robbing millions of fans a grandstand finish to what had been one of the best seasons ever.
Of course there will be a falling out at some point in the season. If Ducati are still the bike to beat ( which I can’t see any reason why they wouldn’t). I expect Pecco to have the advantage early on for Marc to start beating him, then as the season goes on Marc will be aggressive with him and the fall out will begin.
They will have a feud. It won't look like the past because this is a new generation. We won't see the same level of cordialness. We may get three all-till dual races from them.
When there’s two world champions in the same Factory . You know you’re in for a treat.
It's quite obvious. But Simon doesn't think so.
As a guy who's been into F1 for a while, Been watching "The Race" for a while over there. Only source i trust to be accurate. I've been into bikes for a while but only started riding a couple years back, finally making my way to MotoGP and its been a lot to get a handle of without any knowledge. You guys are helping a lot. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE keep it up. Its very much appreciated and will pop off. Sincerely thank you
Two champion riders in a champion team with a championship winning motorcycle...
That in itself is a recipe for animosity...😂😂
Simon “don’t make us rewatch 2015 please I don’t want to have to relive it “
Also Simon “let’s be honest Rossi started it.” 😂😂😂. True though
Well he did!
@@yahyarajaee5883Rossi’s ‘best friend’ and VR46 team manager started it. Uccio. Rossi thought nothing of Phillip Island until Uccio started filling his head with conspiracy theories.
Marquez said after Argentina 2015 "you see what happened.." (he ment he made me crash changing direction).
After assen last corner always marc said "now i know what i need to do..".
Lorenzo said many times he helped him,iannone agreed with rossi about the strange philip island behaviour and..where are honda telemetry of the sepang crash?
Im not a rossi fan nor marquez,but restricting the 2015 in a "rossi started" is false and sounds so far from someone who watches races and interviews.
Rossi started in Argentina,because marquez touched him as soon as rossi passed him riding almost 0.7 s faster than him
I just cannot see anything else other than Marc walking all over Pecco
I wouldn't be so confident. Marc is a fantastic rider, but so is ... Pecco and I expect him to rise to the challenge.
@DEVAmy69 maybe, Pecco is certainly good, but I don't see him as close to Marc, at least Marc in his pre 2020 form. I think Marc is still at least close to that level which will be too much for Pecco. I hope it is close otherwise 2025 could be an extremely boring season.
@@maxafc4695 let's come back to this thread in a year and see how our boys did!
You guys severely underestimate pecco’s talent somehow still
Maybe he could have an advantage at the beginning since he's very familiar with the team and the GP24 should be more comparable to the new bike than the GP23, but I can't see him beating Marquez consistently enough to beat him in the championship unless there are a lot of crashes.
I strongly belive people are overhyping the battle for 2025, looking at past results objectively, Marquez will walk over Bagnaia comfortably next season
Marc Marquez is a lot mature than he was, he's getting old and he won't be someone who would sprinkle fuel to a fire as people perceived him to be.
His partnership with Francesco Bagnaia will build the healthy competition that can push the team moving forward, their ego only stays on the track.
9/10 times drama comes from media like this that are stirring the pot for no good reason.
this is especially true now that Liberty Media's had MotoGP on it's grasp after F1
EDIT : and the ongoing Rossi and his apprentices vs Marquez feud will only pouring the fuel to the fire to the whole debacle as well
Of course them being on the same team is a rivalry.
The 1st guy you wanna beat is the guy on the same equipment as you.
Only Rossi was the big drama queen
What I wonder is how much nationalism will be a factor here. A Marquez known to be the rival of the greatest Italian driver of all time, joining an Italian team to fight another Italian driver who happens to be the apprentice of the first Italian driver.
I really hope it´s not a factor at all (and judging for Ducatti´s excellent neutral attitude with the Martín-Bagnaia fight this year, there should be nothing to fear).
I don't know if that's really a thing why would ducati invite marc to have the factory seat
@@souradippaul3794 They could invite him for a thousand reasons and then still favor the local pilot.
Again, based on this year´s impolute behaviour, I don´t think it will be the case, but who knows.
@@higochumbo8932 idk man I'm confused, cuz if they really don't want him to be champion they could've just refused to sign him, cuz it's not like there any other manufacturer at this point who is at the same level as ducati and marc could join them to beat them
@@souradippaul3794 It has a lot more value to win against against an 8 time world Champion on equal machinery.
Bagnaia winning has two advantages from a nationalistic point of view: 1. Bagnaia goes from being a forgetable champion to be considered one of the greats, and 2. most importantly, Rossi retains more championships than Marquez, keeping the GOAT debate alive and with an important objective metric in favor of Rossi.
Now, give Márquez 1 or 2 more Championships, and he becomes the unquestioned all time greatest, robbing Italians of the top status of their idol.
That said, I still think Ducatti will simply end up accepting Marc´s number 1 status.
It's a real pleasure to listen to you guys. ❤
Inevitable clash at Ducati, I think it can happen if old Rossi is going to get to involved.
Great video guys ❤❤
No. Neither are confrontational. They’ll either get along. Or not really talk to one another. I feel like Marc will reach out to Pecco more than Pecco will reach out to Marc.
Marquez has spanked Pecco on an older bike on multiple occasions - imagine what will happen if the two on the same spec machinery
Everyone is friends until they start fighting for a championship.
Yeah , Rosberg and Hamilton agree
3:10 pecco absolutely did mention the crashes being the reason several times, but he wasn’t going to go on a smear campaign against Martin winning because of it.
There will always be tension when the guy that can beat or is beating is right next door, u won’t see and tension now but wait until points are on offer
I’m looking forward to the pre-season testing when we’ll all decide who is clearly going to be ahead at the end of the season, based on a single time-attack at the Thailand test 😊
Only reason they’ll be a big fight between them is if Pecco does something with Alex.
If they collide Marc can let it go but if something like Aragon happens again and pecco speaks about Alex like he did then then they’ll have problems
I think a lot of people are starving for the childish drama Rossi was so keen to incite and just some excitement in the sport in general. Marc/Pecco are mature adults who learned from Rossi's mistakes- they're not going to repeat them. We are in an era where athletes use sports psychologists to help them focus and manage stress. Waging war with your teammate flies in the face of that.
Yeah childish things like someone slamming into a rider and crashing him on the last lap of the Ducati race of champions lmfao
Yes, lets make sure its happen
Thanks.
Love you guys
Peco sportsmanship is on point, he's not going to end up in a feud
Can't wait to see this dream team 🙌🏻 I feel more sorry for Acosta and what's going on with KTM. Just heard that they're holding off development for 2025 until they get a clearer picture of the situation that's going on with the company. 😅
The difference will be less between the GP24 and GP25 than there was between the GP23 and GP24 but I don't think they have the riders to exploit that over a season, the odd race yes but not the season. Digia will definitely cause a few headaches for both Pecco and Marc, especially Marc. I think he still has a chip on his shoulder about the end of last year and he certainly races Marc much harder when he has the chance than others. Thats my take anyway.
Bang on about Diggia. Qatar sprint, Le mans GP, Indonesia GP are some of the examples
Peco and Marc are gentleman, but on track Márquez is a Gladiator!
The preface, I like both pecco and Marquez. So not to stir the pot, just a theory; we heard how many times pecco mentioned / blamed losing the championship in a sugarcoated way on the few times people crashed him, and pushed him wide. And with Marc being on equal machinery now, I think he’s going to be racing “the old fashioned way” more than pecco is going to like. I definitely think there will at least be some slight animosity, but not an all out war like the MM super fans are writing fan fiction about
They will have a feud. It won't look like the past because this is a new generation. We won't see the same level of cordialness. We may get three all-till dual races from them.
No wonder Simon shot me down on Twitter the other day for suggesting this. But i still disagree. They are going to try and get along. But will it last ?
I believe the only difference will be is that MM93 may not be the privileged rider in the team, that's a first. We can't say how that will turn out just yet...
Homie glazes Marc so hard
Why is Paterson lying????
Mm93 being super aggressive says it all.hes dangerous
I think people mistake pecco but for mehe will go down as the best championship contender out there
They always do that, people disguise his dangerous wreckless moves as “just aggressive” cuz he’s Marquez and thou shall not dare speak out against him. How about that outrageous bomb dive he did in the Ducati race of champions that crashed somebody. It’s unbelievable
If he were dangerous they would remove him.
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I think you have watched motogp 2023/24 he crashed into many riders,him being the cause to many.
i disagree this is going to blow up in a hurry
Marc has nothing to lose he just wants to win again
The moment is clear the championship is between them is going to blow up
But that said it would be fun to watch
Well.. Rossi has himself to blame for what happened in 2015.. Pecco is not Rossi.. Though they will be tension in the garage when the two titans fight for world championship.. Pecco is amicable character unlike Rossi..
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Next year on paper it's a Ducati 1-2. But as we all know everything changes when the rubber hits the asphalt.
Marq was keeping up and in some races beating them with the previous year bike, on a full factory bike, it's curtains for the competition.
Are you sure watching the speed of that 2023 bike down the straights I reckon it had upgrades no doubt.2025 will be rubbish as Aprilia and KTM plus the other manufacturers are so below par against Ducati it will be a 2 rider race a manufacturered 2025 moto gp world champion
I don't like polite title fights
Bring back the feeeuuds
Marc marquez admited to sabotaging upgrades his teamates liked. enough said.
Well it's pretty obvious when fire meets ice.
Marc will dominate (think verstappen 23) on a factory Ducati.
3:10 probably Pecco has been more polite in the International field. Here on the italian channel and with the italian journalist he seemed really pissed and much complainer against the Marquez brothers
Did you say Marc is not an instigator?! 😅
Grown men and men of God, Don't start dramas.
What about KTM crisis?
Di Giannantonio for the win
I certainly think there’ll be some sort of feud especially if Marc in his first season with the Factory Ducati team wipes the floor with Pecco. However I do think they’re also very capable of keeping the rivalry civil
If Marc in his first season with the Factory Ducati team wipes the floor with Pecco then it won't exactly be a feud, will it? More of a sulk.
@@tonyb9735 You make a good point!😅
Simon has no onscreen presence and charm. you gotta put someone else. Look at TheRaceF1, see how they do it.
I don't see anything but fireworks. If marc falls behind in standings he's going to play dirty.
Couldn't happen to two nicer "Champions." One is the Alain Prost of MotoGP, the other a gravel eater/Se pasa de lanza wey.
Wrong.. Marquez started it by refusing to accept his own stupid mistakes in Argentina and Holland, where afterwards he blamed Rossi for derailing his 2015 title challenge and brought his puerile butt hurt to the table. As we all saw, this ended up robbing millions of fans a grandstand finish to what had been one of the best seasons ever.
They will start fighting as soon as they see the other one winning 🙂
Of course there will be a falling out at some point in the season. If Ducati are still the bike to beat ( which I can’t see any reason why they wouldn’t). I expect Pecco to have the advantage early on for Marc to start beating him, then as the season goes on Marc will be aggressive with him and the fall out will begin.
Pecco's destruction nothing else 😂
Neither of them are massive toolbags like Rossi, so no
Yeah except for Marc crashing everybody lmfao
They will have a feud. It won't look like the past because this is a new generation. We won't see the same level of cordialness. We may get three all-till dual races from them.