as a dutchie one of the only reasons i am proud of my country is our amazing ability to build beautifull yachts and other vessels. I am currently working towards becoming an officer onboard a yacht.
As an energy consultant I would like to say that is one of the best explainers on the various credentials of different hydrogen production techniques I have heard. For reference the terms generally used in the industry are: Grey Hydrogen - produced by steam methane reformation which has carbon monoxide as a byproduct; Blue Hydrogen - also produced by steam methane reformation but with the carbon monoxide captured and sequestered; Green Hydrogen - produced by electrolysis of water using renewable electricity usually wind power or solar PV. The idea being that when wind turbines or solar panels are producing more electricity than is required by the grid they can use the surplus to generate hydrogen.
As an economist I would like to say this all nice on piece of paper, but the actual costs of using this technology to produce electricity would only occur if the industry was forced to; via law, tax or sibsidy. And if this occurred, electricity would become even more unaffordable than "renewable" technologies already have
We are thrilled to have contributed to the lighting design / lighting engineering of the owner and guest areas on the magnificent Superyacht 821. It was an honor to bring our expertise to such a prestigious project and help create an exquisite ambiance that complements the yacht's luxurious aesthetics. Congratulations to everyone involved in making this stunning vessel a reality!
Hey up Mr sysman this is pretty cool and loved your chicken and the egg, nice to see this has been built looking at the future so will wait for your full thoughts/analysis thanks for another great video mate
At one time, it wasn’t easy going by steam. This is what it looks like to be present in the era of a major technological shift. One of those propulsion technologies will someday carry your new tech gadget across the globe to you, to be delivered to your home by an EV truck or van.
i enjoyed seeing the protective square paneling on the top structure. It's just like the little square styofoam piece on a model when you unbox it :) "The only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys"
It is good that the people who has enough disposable money to create these kind of vessels do so. Not for the bling factor but for pushing the technology to the edge. Building a comercial vessel is always tied to comercial limits and demands, this is limiting the technology in ways that can be ignored in this kind of projects. By this it can use materials and technology that does not make financial sence today, but maybe in the not so distance future. That the fuel is not ready available falls under the same parameters, it is not the end of the world if it should be stuck somewhere a limited time for that reason. It can leave the next day, or the day after or in a week. I congratulate to the effort, if it works as planned so mutch better!
I see the benefit here as a technology demonstrator that move the industry toward less harmful fuels, though I also several obvious ways in which it could have been greener: 1. The hull could be painted green instead of black. 2. Make it a sail boat to minimize use of the large motors (make them a backup instead of primary propulsion system). 3. Add solar cells, lots of solar cells, again reducing usage of the fuel cells.
Thank you for an informative, clear and well balanced presentation of the fuel cell systems. If billiionaires want to commission mega-yachts, hopefully they'll follow this example and avoid planet destroying fossil fuels.
I can't see that storing hydrogen at -423F is free of any cost. And as many times as I have heard that doing "x" will change "y" forever I have yet to see it being true. In this case, are we just looking at the "(dubious) savings" but ignoring the total cost?
Another comment to you that I think you will find is along the same lines as this video. 😊 A coworker had an old used Volvo diesel engine car. He was so proud to talk about him getting old used vegetable olds from waste at say the restaurant, any old by product of used fuels that he could run in his piece of junk of a car, that it's poor Diesel engine was basically telling him, "Help" you are killing me. I would watch him try and start her up. The engine would just be struggling To even START. But he pounded his chest look at me, I'm saving the planet. The poor engine would just smoke ( Pollution) And just struggle to drive off from the employees parking lot. Another thing I thought you would find interesting was these bow hard coworkers never cared a hoot about the equipment we bought from say Cat or John Deere or Case. Then one day a former Seahawks football player shows up at our shop. He got into selling heavy equipment at a bar, by a salesman who said he could sell Cat equipment after he retired from football fame. The biggest bully in our workplace who never ever even checked the "OIL" on the backhoes. Just as perplexed at me, him saying do you know who he is. I told this coworker who was hired just to spy on all us coworkers to see if we were bad mouth The Director. In the downturn of 2008, there were LAY offs in the workplace. The Director got rid of everyone that my bullying coworker turned into Director I know my words are just bitching about workplace, but I thought you would find funny about running a poor old tired Volvo Diesel on vegetable used waste OILs, and what a former football star will do in a workplace selling Cat heavy equipment. To end this rant on. We only bought ONE Cat Backhoe, the big priced equipment like are front end loader is a JD 😊 and parks department bought a lot of Kabota Farm 3 point hitch types. Plus some N.H. For me personally in my Retirement I bought a tryed and true beast of a 19000 Pounder Dynahoe-190 (1978) why you say. It goes back to my Union hall dispatch out to sewer mainline digging day. In 1979 I ran a new Dynahoe. They were very stout. I started running Backhoe on my dad's lap with the 580CK case machines. I ran every model of 580 series case equipment. But I saw how better and stronger a Dynahoe backhoe was built. Believe it or not. Back then a NEW Dynahoe was $90 thousand dollars. The case with extended hoe attachment could only dig down around 17 feet. The standard 190 Dynahoe with no extendahoe set up. If you put a (Bull nose) Basically a jackhammer on the hoe instead of a digging bucket. The Dynahoe would not come all loss so to speak. I even d Saw a local big time contractor working on a freeway job, have a Dynahoe on site in 2018, Bucyrus Erie "QUIT" making Dynahoe in the mid 1980s when BE stopped there construction line, and just focused on large mining equipment. As history shows after 100 years of building the most well built, bear for stout machine Cat approached BE in late 2011 if memory serves me, BE won a all BE mining equipment in a very long run deep mine in India. The Shareholders of BE said "OK" we will sell off to Cat after like I said 190s of years. BE built the Panama Canal, Even though Marion built the space shuttle track machine, it was really BE engineering that did all the work on that huge carrier. That why I bought and ❤ Bucyrus Erie equipment 😊 so much for my rambling my friend 😊
Do you think the electric car someone drives is free of any pollution? Think about the lithium mining that has to take place to create the batter, then all of the emissions that take place to ship the parts and the car to their eventual destinations. We are decades if not centuries from being able to produce something that is completely free of any pollution. The goal right now should just be to lower the emissions.
Am I the only one who thinks it smells fishy to order a yacht with an entirely new, experimental propulsion system, and then try to off-load it before it has even been delivered?
5:53 One of the rare occasions where I've seen an audiophile level system on a yacht. This is a positive step in moving yachts towards green energy. Still waiting for a purpose built hydrogen yacht covered in solar cells. Like a larger version of The Energy Observer.
More like a Liner. I worked with hydrogen fuel cells years back (15-20) Im please to see the technology has moved on so much. I helped with the research into making small industrial cells for remote area traffic management systems great video 2x👍
Hi, I would like to know what the carbon footprint is to build the yacht in the first place (including everything down to suppliers footprint of even the most insignificant parts), How that compares to the next biggest yacht's footprint and what is the payback time vs an ICE powered yacht ?
As you will be aware this vessel is now currently offered for sale by Edmiston. Their description indicated that the propulsion now being offered will be 3 MTU engines. Is this a change to make it more sellable?
Your were correct when you said some people will say don't build it in the first place, I for one agree and would rather the owner be honest and say he just wants a yacht bigger than Zucks. The only positive I can see in building this vessel is in job creation and GDP for the country.
I doubt that they use "Compressed liquid hydrogen". At -253°C, Hydrogen is a liquid that needs no compression. To prevent buildup of pressure you have to constantly cool it or use the evaporating gas for power production. I guess that the power consumption of the yacht is such that the cooling option is not needed very often.
They don't look like they are wheels, but their feet. I wonder what those speakers are.... they look like at least $50k, top audiophile stuff.... maybe over 100k.
2:48 “With only pure water coming out of the exhaust” - whoa whoa whoa … hold on there Charley. Methanol is made from methane. Methane is a carbon fuel. The carbon molecule must go somewhere in the chain of converting methanol to hydrogen to electric power. That somewhere is CO2. By using methanol, you do reduce CO2 emissions but only by about 7%. The other nasty stuff (NOX etc) is avoided though, so that is a net improvement. Until the hydrogen is produced from water, CO2 will be emitted.
@@ADHJkvsNgsMBbTQe that he does. However if I recall correctly he explicitly avoids the words CO2 emissions. Please correct me if I’m wrong. There’s no need to have separate discussions about the exhaust from one end of the process from exhaust from the other end of the process. The whole point of “green” is less CO2 emissions that result in less global warming from whatever activity. So, CO2 emissions.
Yup, there is no free lunch. It takes massive amounts of electricity to separate the H from H2O in the quantities required. Hydrogen unfortunately doesn't exist in nature in its pure form. It's always attached to something.
Diesel fuel is still by far your best bang for your buck for clean reliable energy. You have to take into account the hydrogen footprint of producing the methanol and the hydrogen . You also have to look at the type of energy used to produce it. So essentially you are shuffling deck chairs on the titanic.
It's good to have a lot of detectors for hydrogen / hydrocarbons. H2 leaks very easily and will accumulate in the ceiling. Non spark lighting is available.
Hydrogen was used by our chemists to scavenge free O2 in the engine plant water system so we had a hydrogen locker aboard ship back in the 80s but there were no installed monitors. The containers would leak Hydrogen displacing air (oxygen) inside the locker. We lost 5 guys because they would not follow proper time consuming air quality testing procedures before entering the locker and they died of asphyxiation.
@Stetsonhatman That's sad to hear. Possibly oxygen sensors needed too then. For small quantity of H2 the safest way is to have a H2 generator from electricity, or possibly a safer getter.
@@Stetsonhatman H2S Alive is a one day course required in any oil patch work. AND confined space rescue. Even then, we've lost people in barge rescues and even old mine or depressons you'd think couldn't be classified as a closed space. Lost two scientist in BC a few years ago.
Probably the largest contribution vessels like this are making is the further development of cleaner energy at sea as a technology. I fully expect this vessel in particular to be nowhere near as green as they claim *if* you actually care about the environment and not about all the technicalities they'll use to promote it. I also expect the total pollution for even building the thing when you factor in all of the materials that had to be created for it too to be pretty huge and likely more than it will ever save or offset in it's lifetime. *However* that doesn't mean I don't think the industry should bother with trying to make them more green. It obviously should since superyatchs are going to continue to exist and continue to be built then we may as well reduce their impact as much as possible and every bit helps. We're not there yet when it comes to *truly* green power at sea, but laying the foundation for one day when we might be is still important. It's likely the motor yatching industry will be among the last to go 'fully green' since it depends on so many other things to do so first, even for Hydrogen power you need the energy put into producing it to be fully green before it even remotely makes an impact- the energy requirements for *making* hydrogen in a green way are pretty enormous...and the cost effective less energy intense way is actually quite polluting...I'm glad money and effort is being put into making it green-er but I *do* get the very strong sense that an awful lot of that effort is specifically targeted at deliberate 'greenwashing' to make them seem more acceptable, and I do find that very unfortunate
Before video: its fuel cells... (I follow their R&D guy, AND i worked on their methanol concepts, now i can finally speak about it😊😊😊) During video: YES
Even winning a "billion dollar" lottery in the US only gets you about $450 million. So you'd need 3 to cover the purchase price, taxes, and running costs.
Methanol is a hydrocarbon. Extracting the Hydrogen for use in fuel cells is great. But what happens to the carbon atoms from the split Methanol molecules? These are waste products. What’s the plan?
It’s hard to see the economic rationale for burning fossil fuel to produce hydrogen, given there is no natural source oh hydrogen. Entropy must set in to the equation. A cost analysis of the power train would be interesting.
It's a very good point that pushing the barriers now, even if it's not totally 'green' is essential for moving forward and perfecting the processes through change. It's how most things evolved, and every issue is an opportunity for further development and change. I just wonder whether there is inherent danger in the cryogenic container, if it fails? Not saying it shouldn't be there, again it's all part of the process of change.
LNG is another option as a replacement for diesel. It has to be stored at -160°C though. It's already used on some yachts too (and is being trialed for use in trucks).
@@oldhairpin really? i didn't know that. How was fueling it like? and how far did it go on one tank? how much was the fuel and how common were the fuel stations?
LNG & CNG has been commonplace in Thailand for at least a decade, but the energy density of NGs is much lower than diesel but can be burnt more efficiently when under high pressures . LNG is 40% lower than diesel and CNG is 75% lower.
Nice to see that someone is taking the leap and mayhaps lead the way forward. There is a Nickel and Copper plant where I live, GCE Node, that have produced clean-er hydrogen since 1960s. They use it in the production and a currently tasked if they can make liquid hydrogen out of the excess hydrogen that they don't use for their own production. The plant produce via electrolysis, 2 tons of hydrogen each day. As an added bonus, the excess Oxygen being produced in the process, is shipped over to a nearby plant who needs a lot of O2 in their production. With more plants like that, building a network of liquid hydrogen tank stations should be foreseeable within near future. And as you mentioned. There will always be a demand for super yachts, and as long as the demand is there, and the money to buy them. There will be builders who deliver. So why not build as ecofriendly as possible, even though.. Yes, the most environmental action is not to buy/build a yacht in the first place.
Haha Looking through "Windows" and the numbering system for upgrades, one could say that the launch was specifically chosen....May the Fourth Be With You!
Too bad they can't use a small Nuclear reactor. They have made a bunch of small ones for the military over the years that were truck portable, so they certainly would fit and provide enough power. It surprises me that GE or one of the other great innovative companies haven't come up with a small commercially available unit for public use. Maybe in the future.
As hydrogen is a low density fuel this massive yacht will have a very short range and require specialist supporting tenders to keep this beast fueled. On the Positive side it can just site in port and run is MTU diesels to keep the lights on...
Hydrogen likes to leak, look at the issues they have with ground services for rocket launches using Hydrogen. Great project, hope this works as designed.
as per your suggestion, i have bent myself into a pretzel, but am now stuck and can’t unbend myself can you come and help? 🙂 will have to look into methanol to hydrogen process. had not heard of methanol before.
@8:40 "but hydrogen can be made WITHOUT fossil fuels..." if it needs energy somewhere in the process to produce, there is fossil fuel involved. same with solar panels and batteries, the end product very green, but the process of getting the materials and recycle the products later, not so green at all.
Would love to know how YETI calculated that 70-78% of energy used is for hotel loads. There must be some huge assumptions that go into that calculation. It seems awfully high to me. I have used figures from a very busy 60m and a very lightly used 50m that I spent 2 years in each and I got 30% and 50% respectively.
Well that's your perception of what they are doing. What this owner did was try to limit his footprint whilst having a yacht, which should be applauded.
@@YachtReport yep they’re all just storing up their treasures on earth for our benefit. Thank God we have them to help save the planet and remind us to take our next jab.
Going Green means Going Brown today. Sad but true.. But I do love seeing projects like this, hopefully there will be a more in depth tour in the future. 👍
Of topic ish, but can anyone tell me what's with super yachts with three letter alpha numeric names? We're in Ibiza at the moment and in the last few days alone we've seen HM1, N2H and EH2...
This was a very informative and enjoyable video keep up the good work. Still can't figure out why yacht owners want fireplaces in their suites - they belong in cabins and castles.
as a dutchie one of the only reasons i am proud of my country is our amazing ability to build beautifull yachts and other vessels. I am currently working towards becoming an officer onboard a yacht.
You guys no your stuff
If you give us money we will build it, keep our mouth shut and congratulate you.
You have not seen much of the world if that is the only reason, you have no idea how lucky you are and how much you take for granted
@@willemhaifetz-chen1588 That's not us but the world, we are actually one of the few country's that criticizes their own behavior
@@yerrie1908 Lol
My favorite yacht to date. The lines are amazing the bow is so tall and the stern is so low, almost perfect
As an energy consultant I would like to say that is one of the best explainers on the various credentials of different hydrogen production techniques I have heard. For reference the terms generally used in the industry are: Grey Hydrogen - produced by steam methane reformation which has carbon monoxide as a byproduct; Blue Hydrogen - also produced by steam methane reformation but with the carbon monoxide captured and sequestered; Green Hydrogen - produced by electrolysis of water using renewable electricity usually wind power or solar PV. The idea being that when wind turbines or solar panels are producing more electricity than is required by the grid they can use the surplus to generate hydrogen.
As an economist I would like to say this all nice on piece of paper, but the actual costs of using this technology to produce electricity would only occur if the industry was forced to; via law, tax or sibsidy.
And if this occurred, electricity would become even more unaffordable than "renewable" technologies already have
You’re not much of an economist.
We are thrilled to have contributed to the lighting design / lighting engineering of the owner and guest areas on the magnificent Superyacht 821. It was an honor to bring our expertise to such a prestigious project and help create an exquisite ambiance that complements the yacht's luxurious aesthetics. Congratulations to everyone involved in making this stunning vessel a reality!
I drove by Feadships facilities today and the new yacht stands out, with or without new technology on board.
An very interesting 'Future of Yachting' story made even better by, The e-Sysman Philharmonic Orchestra ! Bravo, Bravo.
That’s a
Explosive Yacht. Don’t care who owns it. Great video.
The hull lines along with the contrasting hull and superstructure colours make it look like a giant sports fisher to my eye.
When it's out of the Gate, send me the Bill....
Nice 🤣
Poor old William Fence.
When he mentioned Hydrogen I said , Bill is the owner
THANKS 🤗 ESYSMAN …FOR SHARING A INFORMATIVE AND OBJECTIVE VIDEO …AS PER USUAL 💚💚💚
Hey up Mr sysman this is pretty cool and loved your chicken and the egg, nice to see this has been built looking at the future so will wait for your full thoughts/analysis thanks for another great video mate
I hear that it's not easy being green. This proves it.
Agree but the cost even my motor to go ev was going to cost $15000 so $5500 had my. Petrol motor rebuilt Marty Australia
At one time, it wasn’t easy going by steam. This is what it looks like to be present in the era of a major technological shift. One of those propulsion technologies will someday carry your new tech gadget across the globe to you, to be delivered to your home by an EV truck or van.
@@Markle2k Yes, new tech always is expensive. I remember when handheld calculators cost hundreds of dollars when they first came out in the 1970's.
That is one spectacularly gorgeous yacht! ❤
Pretty much looks like a knockoff of Serene.
There is nothing greener in the current year than burning 11 gallons of diesel fuel to make a gallon of 'green fuel.'
i enjoyed seeing the protective square paneling on the top structure. It's just like the little square styofoam piece on a model when you unbox it :)
"The only difference between men and boys is the price of their toys"
toys .... quite agree ... /// tick ...
It is good that the people who has enough disposable money to create these kind of vessels do so. Not for the bling factor but for pushing the technology to the edge. Building a comercial vessel is always tied to comercial limits and demands, this is limiting the technology in ways that can be ignored in this kind of projects. By this it can use materials and technology that does not make financial sence today, but maybe in the not so distance future. That the fuel is not ready available falls under the same parameters, it is not the end of the world if it should be stuck somewhere a limited time for that reason. It can leave the next day, or the day after or in a week.
I congratulate to the effort, if it works as planned so mutch better!
I like that "Windows blue-screen inspired color combo" of the yacht almost as if the owner had some affiliation with Microsoft
Hmmmm 🧐
I see the benefit here as a technology demonstrator that move the industry toward less harmful fuels, though I also several obvious ways in which it could have been greener:
1. The hull could be painted green instead of black.
2. Make it a sail boat to minimize use of the large motors (make them a backup instead of primary propulsion system).
3. Add solar cells, lots of solar cells, again reducing usage of the fuel cells.
Thank you for an informative, clear and well balanced presentation of the fuel cell systems. If billiionaires want to commission mega-yachts, hopefully they'll follow this example and avoid planet destroying fossil fuels.
the fireplace and speakers at 5:54 are the fireplace and speakers from your video of MY Victorious -15:00 mark
So you think Feadship would have provided pictures of the interior of their newest and most radical yacht???
I'm an American, and, you can stop listing the length in ft. We'll never catch up if you keep pampering us. :)
shut up
And you are asking this from an Englishman??? ddd
he's not pampeting. the lenght of a boat is typically given in ft just like the size of a TV is tipically given in inches worldwide.
What do they do with the carbon left over from the methanol after they remove the hydrogen?
Trees need carbon to survive and make oxygen
it is a beautiful yacht
I can't see that storing hydrogen at -423F is free of any cost. And as many times as I have heard that doing "x" will change "y" forever I have yet to see it being true. In this case, are we just looking at the "(dubious) savings" but ignoring the total cost?
Another comment to you that I think you will find is along the same lines as this video. 😊 A coworker had an old used
Volvo diesel engine car. He was so proud to talk about him getting old used vegetable olds from waste at say the restaurant, any old by product of used fuels that he could run in his piece of junk of a car, that it's poor Diesel engine was basically telling him, "Help" you are killing me. I would watch him try and start her up. The engine would just be struggling
To even START. But he pounded his chest look at me, I'm saving the planet. The poor engine would just smoke ( Pollution)
And just struggle to drive off from the employees parking lot. Another thing I thought you would find interesting was these bow hard coworkers never cared a hoot about the equipment we bought from say Cat or John Deere or Case. Then one day a former Seahawks football player shows up at our shop. He got into selling heavy equipment at a bar, by a salesman who said he could sell Cat equipment after he retired from football fame. The biggest bully in our workplace who never ever even checked the "OIL" on the backhoes. Just as perplexed at me, him saying do you know who he is. I told this coworker who was hired just to spy on all us coworkers to see if we were bad mouth
The Director. In the downturn of 2008, there were LAY offs in the workplace. The Director got rid of everyone that my bullying coworker turned into Director
I know my words are just bitching about workplace, but I thought you would find funny about running a poor old tired Volvo Diesel on vegetable used waste OILs, and what a former football star will do in a workplace selling Cat heavy equipment.
To end this rant on. We only bought ONE
Cat Backhoe, the big priced equipment like are front end loader is a JD 😊 and parks department bought a lot of Kabota
Farm 3 point hitch types. Plus some N.H.
For me personally in my Retirement I bought a tryed and true beast of a 19000
Pounder Dynahoe-190 (1978) why you say. It goes back to my Union hall dispatch out to sewer mainline digging day. In 1979 I ran a new Dynahoe. They were very stout. I started running Backhoe on my dad's lap with the 580CK case machines. I ran every model of 580 series case equipment. But I saw how better and stronger a Dynahoe backhoe was built. Believe it or not. Back then a NEW Dynahoe was $90 thousand dollars. The case with extended hoe attachment could only dig down around 17 feet. The standard 190 Dynahoe with no extendahoe set up. If you put a (Bull nose)
Basically a jackhammer on the hoe instead of a digging bucket. The Dynahoe would not come all loss so to speak. I even d
Saw a local big time contractor working on a freeway job, have a Dynahoe on site in 2018, Bucyrus Erie "QUIT" making Dynahoe in the mid 1980s when BE stopped there construction line, and just focused on large mining equipment. As history shows after 100 years of building the most well built, bear for stout machine Cat approached BE in late 2011 if memory serves me, BE won a all BE mining equipment in a very long run deep mine in India. The Shareholders of BE said "OK" we will sell off to Cat after like I said 190s of years. BE built the Panama Canal, Even though Marion built the space shuttle track machine, it was really BE engineering that did all the work on that huge carrier. That why I bought and ❤
Bucyrus Erie equipment 😊 so much for my rambling my friend 😊
Do you think the electric car someone drives is free of any pollution? Think about the lithium mining that has to take place to create the batter, then all of the emissions that take place to ship the parts and the car to their eventual destinations. We are decades if not centuries from being able to produce something that is completely free of any pollution. The goal right now should just be to lower the emissions.
Thanks for your update 🙂
Am I the only one who thinks it smells fishy to order a yacht with an entirely new, experimental propulsion system, and then try to off-load it before it has even been delivered?
Tax evasion but of course. Talk to a company controller for some hair raising synopsis'.
He was most likely able to catapult the "build costs" into a particularily profitable year
No.
Besides, the whole green scam is pathetic.
@@cosmicsurfer5911, so we should stay in the stone age?
Tax evasion or a show off only, ashes in the eyes of the poor, regular people.
5:53 One of the rare occasions where I've seen an audiophile level system on a yacht.
This is a positive step in moving yachts towards green energy. Still waiting for a purpose built hydrogen yacht covered in solar cells. Like a larger version of The Energy Observer.
More like a Liner.
I worked with hydrogen fuel cells years back (15-20) Im please to see the technology has moved on so much. I helped with the research into making small industrial cells for remote area traffic management systems
great video 2x👍
Do you think cruise ships might go that way
Not only Feadship, but a Huge Feadship.
Impressive. Very impressive engineering feat, pioneering new fuels.
Very good film and informative. Thanks!
Extraordinary. Astonishing. Thank you.
amazing news for us 99%, thank you!
Hi, I would like to know what the carbon footprint is to build the yacht in the first place (including everything down to suppliers footprint of even the most insignificant parts), How that compares to the next biggest yacht's footprint and what is the payback time vs an ICE powered yacht ?
As you will be aware this vessel is now currently offered for sale by Edmiston. Their description indicated that the propulsion now being offered will be 3 MTU engines. Is this a change to make it more sellable?
I'm just guessing but maybe the problems with refueling it became so big that the owner felt nah i don't want it anymore.
Your were correct when you said some people will say don't build it in the first place, I for one agree and would rather the owner be honest and say he just wants a yacht bigger than Zucks. The only positive I can see in building this vessel is in job creation and GDP for the country.
Nobody builds a yacht because they want 'a bigger yacht than xxx'
Please get aboard that ship and video-tour the engineering spaces!
Looking like Fossil fuels may not be Fossil at all but from a permanently active process in the earths crust .....interesting.
I doubt that they use "Compressed liquid hydrogen". At -253°C, Hydrogen is a liquid that needs no compression. To prevent buildup of pressure you have to constantly cool it or use the evaporating gas for power production. I guess that the power consumption of the yacht is such that the cooling option is not needed very often.
as always very well done. excellent thank you.
Excellent review and also forethought and opinion to what’s next.
I'm at ah, as to the level of knowledge, and information you provide. Just so enjoyable, please keep up the great work!
5:54 Beautiful stereo speakers : ON WHEELS ???????
Please explain why that would be.? Do you have to roll them into storage to set sail ?
They don't look like they are wheels, but their feet. I wonder what those speakers are.... they look like at least $50k, top audiophile stuff.... maybe over 100k.
2:48 “With only pure water coming out of the exhaust” - whoa whoa whoa … hold on there Charley. Methanol is made from methane. Methane is a carbon fuel. The carbon molecule must go somewhere in the chain of converting methanol to hydrogen to electric power. That somewhere is CO2. By using methanol, you do reduce CO2 emissions but only by about 7%. The other nasty stuff (NOX etc) is avoided though, so that is a net improvement. Until the hydrogen is produced from water, CO2 will be emitted.
That was regarding the hydrogen fuel cell. He does go on to discuss the reformer process.
@@ADHJkvsNgsMBbTQe that he does. However if I recall correctly he explicitly avoids the words CO2 emissions. Please correct me if I’m wrong. There’s no need to have separate discussions about the exhaust from one end of the process from exhaust from the other end of the process. The whole point of “green” is less CO2 emissions that result in less global warming from whatever activity. So, CO2 emissions.
@@tedspradley except that the vessel is capable of storing and using pure hydrogen where available.
Yup, there is no free lunch. It takes massive amounts of electricity to separate the H from H2O in the quantities required. Hydrogen unfortunately doesn't exist in nature in its pure form. It's always attached to something.
@@1227_Washington That's why they attach it to methanol on this ship.
Diesel fuel is still by far your best bang for your buck for clean reliable energy.
You have to take into account the hydrogen footprint of producing the methanol and the hydrogen . You also have to look at the type of energy used to produce it. So essentially you are shuffling deck chairs on the titanic.
It's good to have a lot of detectors for hydrogen / hydrocarbons. H2 leaks very easily and will accumulate in the ceiling. Non spark lighting is available.
Bloody Hell!
Hydrogen was used by our chemists to scavenge free O2 in the engine plant water system so we had a hydrogen locker aboard ship back in the 80s but there were no installed monitors. The containers would leak Hydrogen displacing air (oxygen) inside the locker. We lost 5 guys because they would not follow proper time consuming air quality testing procedures before entering the locker and they died of asphyxiation.
@Stetsonhatman That's sad to hear. Possibly oxygen sensors needed too then. For small quantity of H2 the safest way is to have a H2 generator from electricity, or possibly a safer getter.
@@Stetsonhatman H2S Alive is a one day course required in any oil patch work. AND confined space rescue. Even then, we've lost people in barge rescues and even old mine or depressons you'd think couldn't be classified as a closed space. Lost two scientist in BC a few years ago.
Probably the largest contribution vessels like this are making is the further development of cleaner energy at sea as a technology. I fully expect this vessel in particular to be nowhere near as green as they claim *if* you actually care about the environment and not about all the technicalities they'll use to promote it. I also expect the total pollution for even building the thing when you factor in all of the materials that had to be created for it too to be pretty huge and likely more than it will ever save or offset in it's lifetime. *However* that doesn't mean I don't think the industry should bother with trying to make them more green. It obviously should since superyatchs are going to continue to exist and continue to be built then we may as well reduce their impact as much as possible and every bit helps. We're not there yet when it comes to *truly* green power at sea, but laying the foundation for one day when we might be is still important.
It's likely the motor yatching industry will be among the last to go 'fully green' since it depends on so many other things to do so first, even for Hydrogen power you need the energy put into producing it to be fully green before it even remotely makes an impact- the energy requirements for *making* hydrogen in a green way are pretty enormous...and the cost effective less energy intense way is actually quite polluting...I'm glad money and effort is being put into making it green-er but I *do* get the very strong sense that an awful lot of that effort is specifically targeted at deliberate 'greenwashing' to make them seem more acceptable, and I do find that very unfortunate
What kind of range do you think it could have?
SFA
6500 Nm according to superyachtimes
Feadschip ❤kunnen en doen zijn de criteria. Hoef niets uit te leggen.
Schip zegt genoeg.😮😊
Looks beautiful, quite astounding. I hope it does not crash as hard as Windows.
I've been using Windows for 10 years and haven't had a single crash. Hell, I have more Safari crashes on my iPad every day than I do Windows crashes.
Before video: its fuel cells...
(I follow their R&D guy, AND i worked on their methanol concepts, now i can finally speak about it😊😊😊)
During video: YES
I need to win a lottery.
More than one.
You might need to win a few lotteries.
Better be a biggie .. more than 650 mil plus running costs and fees. Bushyboy Oz
Even winning a "billion dollar" lottery in the US only gets you about $450 million. So you'd need 3 to cover the purchase price, taxes, and running costs.
@@GraemeHein That's why my dreams are scaled down to a 50m Nordhaven or Bering. This Gates yacht would give me anxiety.
The MY Hindenburg?
Thanks for another great video 👍👍
Interesting development.
Truly remarkable
Interesting , Thank You . Looks nice I hope she works. And lasts a long time
Gorgeous ship! And daring with the hydrogen. Please invite me for a trip!
Methanol is a hydrocarbon.
Extracting the Hydrogen for use in fuel cells is great.
But what happens to the carbon atoms from the split Methanol molecules?
These are waste products. What’s the plan?
It’s hard to see the economic rationale for burning fossil fuel to produce hydrogen, given there is no natural source oh hydrogen. Entropy must set in to the equation. A cost analysis of the power train would be interesting.
I guess we should stop building electric vehicles then.
What would it cost to refit it for diesel? It's worth the hull and aesthetics minus the cost of conversion.
WHAT A DEAL....Thanks my friend......
Old F-4 II Shoe🇺🇸
It's a very good point that pushing the barriers now, even if it's not totally 'green' is essential for moving forward and perfecting the processes through change. It's how most things evolved, and every issue is an opportunity for further development and change. I just wonder whether there is inherent danger in the cryogenic container, if it fails? Not saying it shouldn't be there, again it's all part of the process of change.
Sharp looking yacht
LNG is another option as a replacement for diesel. It has to be stored at -160°C though. It's already used on some yachts too (and is being trialed for use in trucks).
LNG/LPG is used a lot already in the UK for Road Haulage. I drove a 44t Volvo with LNG a few years ago
@@oldhairpin really? i didn't know that. How was fueling it like? and how far did it go on one tank? how much was the fuel and how common were the fuel stations?
LNG & CNG has been commonplace in Thailand for at least a decade, but the energy density of NGs is much lower than diesel but can be burnt more efficiently when under high pressures . LNG is 40% lower than diesel and CNG is 75% lower.
Nice to see that someone is taking the leap and mayhaps lead the way forward.
There is a Nickel and Copper plant where I live, GCE Node, that have produced clean-er hydrogen since 1960s. They use it in the production and a currently tasked if they can make liquid hydrogen out of the excess hydrogen that they don't use for their own production.
The plant produce via electrolysis, 2 tons of hydrogen each day.
As an added bonus, the excess Oxygen being produced in the process, is shipped over to a nearby plant who needs a lot of O2 in their production.
With more plants like that, building a network of liquid hydrogen tank stations should be foreseeable within near future.
And as you mentioned. There will always be a demand for super yachts, and as long as the demand is there, and the money to buy them. There will be builders who deliver. So why not build as ecofriendly as possible, even though.. Yes, the most environmental action is not to buy/build a yacht in the first place.
Haha Looking through "Windows" and the numbering system for upgrades, one could say that the launch was specifically chosen....May the Fourth Be With You!
It’s Gorgeous !
Too bad they can't use a small Nuclear reactor. They have made a bunch of small ones for the military over the years that were truck portable, so they certainly would fit and provide enough power. It surprises me that GE or one of the other great innovative companies haven't come up with a small commercially available unit for public use. Maybe in the future.
My cousin has one of those.
It's okay, if you're into that.
Interesting concept. Methanol seems to be a more likely fuel for the near future.
As hydrogen is a low density fuel this massive yacht will have a very short range and require specialist supporting tenders to keep this beast fueled. On the Positive side it can just site in port and run is MTU diesels to keep the lights on...
They are green . They dial in the moon like sea shells.
Thankyou
Огромные яхты - это безумие, их размер, роскошь... зачем это все? Детские комплексы владельцев!
Hydrogen likes to leak, look at the issues they have with ground services for rocket launches using Hydrogen. Great project, hope this works as designed.
Very interesting.
as per your suggestion, i have bent myself into a pretzel, but am now stuck and can’t unbend myself can you come and help? 🙂 will have to look into methanol to hydrogen process. had not heard of methanol before.
@8:40 "but hydrogen can be made WITHOUT fossil fuels..." if it needs energy somewhere in the process to produce, there is fossil fuel involved. same with solar panels and batteries, the end product very green, but the process of getting the materials and recycle the products later, not so green at all.
Price. Based on specs, builder and fuel aspect I would assume $400,000,000+.
5 years in the making , pretty fast , how long to get there ?
Any superyachts running on LNG? I know of two small yachts that use electric drives and use solar and wind for charging. But they are small yachts.
Gill Bates. That well known devious "philanthropist"
Pantone gives you a vast range of greens. Hempels will mix to your specs to affirm your greta delusions
How long until they are just ships?
I wonder if at some point they reposer with diesel...
Where can u refuel this yacht ?
i like the intros
I need this😁
She is beautiful.
Nice that some environmental concerns are being addressed. One can see where repeating the same solutions , with the same results, has gotten us.
"Can be" and will be are two different things. However, in the long run creating hydrogen from excess solar will eventually happen.
Would love to know how YETI calculated that 70-78% of energy used is for hotel loads. There must be some huge assumptions that go into that calculation. It seems awfully high to me. I have used figures from a very busy 60m and a very lightly used 50m that I spent 2 years in each and I got 30% and 50% respectively.
Thank God rich people can enjoy the open seas and convince us they’re doing it all for our health and safety.
Well that's your perception of what they are doing. What this owner did was try to limit his footprint whilst having a yacht, which should be applauded.
@@YachtReport yep they’re all just storing up their treasures on earth for our benefit. Thank God we have them to help save the planet and remind us to take our next jab.
Going Green means Going Brown today. Sad but true.. But I do love seeing projects like this, hopefully there will be a more in depth tour in the future. 👍
Incredible
Why order and wait for the superyacht to be built just to immediately put it up for sale?🤔
It has something to do with american tax laws.
@@brahand could be, with tax laws like Swiss cheese.
Interesting.
Of topic ish, but can anyone tell me what's with super yachts with three letter alpha numeric names? We're in Ibiza at the moment and in the last few days alone we've seen HM1, N2H and EH2...
This was a very informative and enjoyable video keep up the good work. Still can't figure out why yacht owners want fireplaces in their suites - they belong in cabins and castles.
If you want to understand how they’re thinking’s simply ask yourself: what would I do if money was no object?