For me, Kade was mostly about making the game more confortable, and opening up to a Osu-esque audience. And psych was about expanding the cartoon goofiness fnf is known for, and probably showing what one could expect from the full-ass release. Also, a reminder that psych's lead coder also worked on a multiplayer engine, so multiplayer COULD be added to psych, idk.
thats kind of why i like psych. i prefer games like osu to fnf, so if i want to play a more serious rhythm game, i would. psych is far more "fnf" to me. if i want to play fnf, i want an fnf-like experience, not something akin to osu
Psych Engine has built-in custom events, almost everything is soft-coded, and has a better input system than Kade Engine. On the other hand, Kade Engine is MUCH more customizable with circle arrows, and offset, so both of them have goods and bads. But then again, Psych Engine is in its beta phase, so we can all come together and say that both are good in their own ways. EDIT: Sorry, I meant to say kade engine has a better input system than psych engine lol...
Id Personally like to pick psych engine, because you dont have to use the source code to make a mod, you can just put all the assets you need, into the mod folder, and you can make the mod easily and quickly
Well it’s true, and. That helps a lot to the new people but, people like me which code like someone insane I personally pick one or other if I want to make it fast or not, btw I still use the KE 1.5 cuz I still coding stuff, I work le like to go whit the new KE or psych but I can’t :(
Kade's current antimash system is completely based on hit windows. There is a reason why "Bads" or lower judgements take your health or even break your combo - that counters mashing as mashing makes hits very inaccurate. On the other hand, psych uses a manual antimash system that tries to detect if you are mashing, which often leads to input drops. Right now, bad note timings won't take your health or break your combo - which suggests the other system is in play. Psych's newest version now implements keyboard callbacks, which was implemented in KE 1.5, meaning it's input system should be comparable to Kade's now, but the manual anti-mash system is still there.
Honestly, I prefer Psych Engine. It took what was most necessary, and then built it's features around those. It's in beta, but imagine what a future release might bring with it. Hell, perhaps it'd even surpass Kade Engine, due to how easily you can mod it?
many people will say the same. but pysch is really user friendly, even down to adding weeks. its insane. porting stuff from kade to psych is really easy, so psych for me.
@@SuperKoolRaven yeh pretty much, rn i heard most ppl are using Forever Engine if they're not using psych, mosty due to optimization and easy source code with FE
Psych Engine so far is already better in my opinion. Not only is the in-game mod support already great, allowing for you to make a full blown mod with unique mechanics and new note types, all while being much simpler to understand for a newbie to coding and only requiring basic knowledge of lua coding. (and from teasers we've gotten from Shadow Mario in the Basement Club discord, shits gonna get even better with an in-game mod manager allowing you to manage your mods better and to essentially create whole ass modpacks) but it also provides more to the base game, along with making it easier to add events during the song without required changes to the code of the game. The only issue currently is the lack of an option for a more detailed accuracy system, and the anti-mash could be improved. Beyond that, it's already a great engine as is. Kade Engine has better input in terms of competitive play. Mods like the Camellia mod strive off of Kade BECAUSE it's focused around other rhythm games which are less forgiving and overall more difficult than FNF is. It even provides some modifiers like allowing you to play any chart with any scroll speed and even change the overall speed of a song. However, past that, it's currently horribly optimized in it's more recent updates and doesn't provide nearly as much as Psych does for modders. While at the end of the day its an engine for a game where you play as a short ass blue haired bastard who learned english from a fax machine so it doesn't matter much. But if you had to choose, Psych is definitely the way to go for casual play and generally for modding as well.
Psych engine its on its starting versions, imagine on the future, gonna be better than kade engine. With custom notes like funky friday, like diamond and circle, or other. And it made good mods like friday at treasure island and hypno lullaby. Imagine at future versions.
Not to mention that it's already pretty optimized, somebody ran run with 400 NPS on almost all engines and Kade lost but Psych won even though it lagged for around 10 seconds. I also think the bot is better
@@trickytheclown5412 the bot is better. i imported the unfairness chart and it got through it and it can probably do pineappled too. (kade's botplay on pineappled misses)
Pretty much the only thing about phyic engine that is better is how easy it is to mod and the charter if kade engine makes it easy to mod and makes a better charter phyic engine will die
@@splualies6833 psych is also easy to install it doesn’t require the webm extension and others and also it tells you if there’s an error and no need to hardcoded to add some characters and week, what I like about psych is how simplified this engine is
With Psych engine, coding and adding custom weeks and stuff is WAY easier then kade engine. Plus, you can just add all if not most of kade engines features like arrow textures etc. You can legit do pretty much anything if it can be coded into the game. I find Psych is way better. (It's MY opinion, not anyone else's so don't come hating on me for my opinion. I'm speaking for myself. Not you guys)
In my personal opinion? Maybe it's just the lack of feature bloat like Kade, but I think Psych is much better overall. On my low-end PC, trying to play anything in Kade just... doesn't work well. But I have little to no issues when I play a mod with Psych. So I fully support Psych over Kade.
I couldn't ever get source code to work so now that psych engine came in I was able to make my first ever mod and now greater ones to come! Thank you Psych Engine!
honestly i would like to see both psych and kade combine in some sort of way since theyre both really good engines and its hard to pick just one to stay on
kade engine's better for difficult and past songs, i.e. best example, vs camellia, putting any of the harder songs in psych the anti spam will actually destroy you if youre less accurate, which can stunt progress and make the player less motivated, but, psych is a lot more casual and what id say is the better engine for friday night funkin, as its not about hard or difficult songs, but goofy scenarios and characters and a fun artstyle and animation, which, psych pairs with well, its basically a dev friendly version of regular friday night funkin with ghost tapping
@Piteous and id say its right for that, the anti spam in KE does destroy you for just fat fingering other notes at the same time, i just wish psych engine had Kade Engine's note registration, or KE had Psych Engines accessibility and features, theres just something about playing hard charts (mainly camellia charts ive noticed) in kade engine rather than psych that seem to appeal more and feel more clean, i just prefer the anti cheat in that imo, i think the judgements are also pretty deserved, though SHIT being a miss is pretty annoying, other than that though psych engine is perfectly fitted for FNF style songs, not insane shit like camellia, so it does its job, and kade engine lives up to what its said to be, a competitive build for fnf
In KADE, the sprites are in spritesheets, making it a lot easier to keep track of what you have done, whereas stuff like the HUD, the MAIN MENU, and more are split on Psych, so win on Kade for me!
@@pixelatedluisyt not really if you think of it from literally every element. All of the health icons, all of the menus, and else are grouped in Kade. Psych splits each element
I say psych engine is the best engine can be used because it is: 1. Smooth on low end pc's 2. Complete Settings 3. With Amazing Achievements 4. Soft Coded (and more) While Kade Engine is also better so I think two of it are better engines for fnf moddings.
In all honesty, Psych Engine has many things that Kade doesn't, i.e. it is very thorough in terms of mod development. Psych has thought of everything, from creating new weeks to almost perfectly placing notes in a chart by looking at the blue soundwaves. Every error you make, it is often easy to spot and fix the mistakes. It is also technically user friendly (if you are patient and follow instructions from the engine or online). Another thing I noticed was that you can add events and custom animations, which I thought it was pretty cool. That being said, and sorry to all of the Kade people, if you want to save yourself from major grief, Psych Engine is the better way to go instead.
I still prefer kade engine mainly because that is a more well known engine and also it has actual controller support which psych engine could definitely use as using the control stick is fine but i prefer the buttons
Honestly if I were to make a mod I would definitely use Psyche it feels nice for beginners! And it makes modding so much easier! Not saying Kade Engine is bad but Psyche is definitely really good!
Everyone talks about which engine is better, but I don't hear enough people talking about how awesome it could be if we mashed up Kade & Psyche together
I would say that psych is easier for making basic stuff, and is therefore better for simpler mods, where as kade is better for the easier coding + all the extra stuff that you can leave players to work out, making it better for bigger mods
I personally like kade engine but there are things like lag that could be solved and one or another error on the other hand psych is quite good at optimization although sometimes the input fails but everyone chooses their favorite engine since that is the point of making a mod have fun with your preferences another thing, if you use or will use or never use it and you don't care lol the best version of jade is 1.5.4 and 1.7 since they don't have much lag
I did 5 ports for psych engine because it's easier to code there I did Smoke em out struggle, vs annie, arcade showdown, tales from the raveyard and high effort hank
Kade honestly feels a lot more clunky and unpolished, like it’s a dev tool more than anything. Psych feels like a clean, genuine improvement to the base engine and really feels like what the full official game could be.
Now, speaking as a person who doesn’t know how to code, I prefer pysch engine due to obvious reasons that everyone has stated already. However, in terms of which one is better? I’d say that if one actually knew how to code, and was attempting to make a big mod and are willing to put in the large amount of time for it, then Kade is likely better. Again, I wouldn’t know since I don’t code, but I’m assuming that’s the case.
1:30 there's more information about kade and psych ( its about the arrows ) , in kade , if u press a long note , the player health bar doesn't go further , but 4 psych , it goes differently
Not sure about on PC but for making mods on Mobile Psych Engine is easily the best Not only is it the least laggy engine EXPECIALLY with optimized sprite packs, but the character editor REALLY helps with fixing sprites Only real issue with it is a bug with charting that will place a random note or event where I don't want one :/
In my opinion, they each are better for their own things. Kade Engine has better inputs and is more customizable for the person playing the mod, while Psych Engine lags less and is more customizable for the person making the mod. Also, Psych is easier to mod if you have no coding experience and has a better chart editor, however it is mostly limited to what the engine provides. Kade Engine, on the other hand, is harder to mod and requires a bit of coding, however, due to this, Kade Engine's potential is as high as the language it's written in, as YOU make and add all the features, instead of having to use pre-made ones. So overall, Psych is easier to mod and is better for newbies, while Kade is better for the person playing the mod and has more potential, but is harder to mod and lags more (then again, since you can add or change anything, it is possible to reduce this lag yourself).
I enjoy Psyche engine since its more user-friendly and allows people to get a good understanding of making their mod. What's pog is that this runs in Lua.
Psych also has a Character Customizer, so that way you won’t have to dig around the .xml files much Sure, Kade (I think) has one too, but it crashes a lot
Wow I didn’t expect psych to be looking so much easier than Kade. It doesn’t even require code and overall the charting and graphics are much better. I think I might use it for mods.
I like Psych mostly because its fairly simple to use and making mods is a lot easier because of its mods folder and because most mods I like are made in it I also sometimes ike to just disable vocals and turn on make sound for when BF or the opponent hits a note and listen to the "singing"
My opinion, in Kade Engine, you can do more things but it's harder because it's coding rather than doing it ingame so you can do what you want. In Psych Engine, you can do some stuff but less things because you do it ingame and it might not have an option for what you want, maybe unless you download the source.
I prefer Psych for multiple reasons: 1. Modding is easier now, and has a good amount of flexibility, and I can’t really script but there are still things I can do without LUA scripting 2. Middle scroll, helps with my readability 3. Charting is cooler, I can add events without additional scripting, just take a script from another mod (since I can’t script) and then I can apply those custom events and notes into my chart (an example is a chart for School I recreated with Accelerant bullet notes and Philly Glow event)
This is my opinion. 1. Kade Engine is mostly coding and stuff for modding, targeting experinced coders. Psych Engine is just giving you the easy way out. Kade actually gives you plenty of options. It's better for you to use Kade so you can do more than what Psych does. 2. The effects on Kade feel just fine, you can even add some other effects (I think), Psych Engine's effects are just either weird or unnoticable. One effect you have to watch over and over for an achievement. The only thing you should be your eyes on is the arrows. It's like driving a car: the scenery is good, but you have to focus on where your driving to. Kade Engine is just fine. Psych Engine is also just ok. 3. Kade Engine is straight-forward. Do/Make a song with a blue haired thing against someone else. Psych Engine gives you more to do, it adds achievements, the stuff in the settings. It just gives you more options. However, it kinda distracts you from doing other things. I mean, I am still trying to beat the "watch thw henchmen die for 100 times" one. 4. These two engines are the most popular because someof their differences to the main game while others have other differences but don't get as much attention. Try the other ones, maybe! Im even making my own in the future. (Why is this a reason again) Thats my opinion, but I don't like FNF, so your reading from a disliker's perspective.
I would choose pysch engine -The name sounds pretty cool -built in modding thing whatever its called -those effect things (shown on blammed) -splash notes awesome!!! -the input is good -and awards are quite nice to get
I’d also like to add that with Psych Engine, mods don’t even need an exe to play, you can just get the files and immediately run them using Psych, that alone got me to switch ngl
I prefer Psych engine WAY more. I love that you can change you can change your note colors on psych engine. There's also a bug for me on Kade engine where if i only press one key. It makes me multiple that 2 times.
From my experience with Kade Engine, it is super laggy for me and is unplayable when using debug mode. I feel the kade engine Lua modcharting is sometimes too complicated and can be very confusing, I’d honestly prefer using source code for modcharting than the Lua gibberish. The circle note skin I will NEVER use because it is almost impossible to read the chart when the strums are moved around, it’s a literal guessing game when the strums are moved. I also like the customization of kade engine, but I think maybe there’s too many settings to the point where it could overwhelm the user at first glance. I feel the options need to be split into to categories, simple and advanced. Psych Engine is actually playable on my computer and not stupidly laggy like Kade Engine. I can actually debug the game without it crashing. The Lua scripting is very easy to use once you learn the source code. The functions are named in a way that I can understand what they do without having to look at wiki. The options menu is very user-friendly, which I think Kade Engine fails to achieve. That doesn’t mean Psych Engine doesn’t have its flaws, let me list a few in 0.2.5h: 1. Tweens and setProperty crash the game on death, which is really annoying 2. No individual tween function at the moment 3. Teh null difficulty bug What’s good about both engines? Well, they both fix fnf’s garbage input and accuracy calculator, they both are very easy to mod once you learn the source code (unless you are using kade engine’s Lua modcharting then it is hell,) and both are a good base for other mod creators. My favorite out of the two engine is Psych Engine because it is simple, easy to use for intermediate programmers, has epic song effects (Philly has amazing visual effects,) has cleaner code, and is great for programmers like me. If you want an engine that has lots of features, an more advanced song charter, and a great input system, then Kade Engine is for you. Also don’t send hate to the contributors and/or creators of both engines, I know how you people are (not saying that you do.) And don’t you dare put a nerd meme reply below this.
Honestly you dont even need source code for psych engine. The following things ill list is makeable in the official build (or beta): -custom events -custom notetypes -even custom diffuculties! -custom modchart (ex. Opponent floating, opponent attack/draining health, rotating game and hud, and moving or setting angle or setting opacity for the notes (i think you can do more!)) -ez mp4 extension for cutscenes -easily add stages (ill explain why down below \/\/\/\/) And it has a WAY BETTER charting than kade cuz: -metophorne (idk how to spell) -visible waveforms -preset or coded events to use -the ability to play/test your chart at any time of the song. -preset/coded custom notetypes(alt animation, hurt note, no animation etc) And also it has a really nice informative wiki that has tutorials for begginers(like adding a character) or for advanced people(like lua script API:tweens and timers) ill also list some amazing mods that were made in psych engine -hypnos lullaby (a legendary mod) by bbpanzu -vs stickman by JzBoy -the shaggy mod 2.5 or 3.0 by srperez -vs sans a beautiful day outside by also srperez and mcchomk -the holiday mod part I and II by also bbpanzu -vs aflac remastered (by aflac duh) -vs the chosen one idk whos the creator :/ IMPORTANT NOTE: I actually never tried kade but from hearing some stuff psych is for begginer coders and easier to code, kade is for advanced shit like that stupid hex insane modchart that took like TWO FUCKING WEEKS to beat. Also i despise kades input system im not playing etterna ok? Thank you for ur time :)
I prefer psych engine for messing around taking assets , scripts ect. beacuse in kade engine everything is hardcoded and in the source code so really you cannot mess around with it.
I mostly prefer psych engine because cade engine is just i mean when it comes up to like overchartted songs its just gonna be working because of the animation.
Psych Engine Is My preffered one. Reasons: °It's Friendlier for coding beginners °It Can Make Mods Look Hella Great °The Options are Simplified,which is nice °It Has Rewards,and Rewards are cool °The Input System In Psych Engine is still good
These engines are just like Minecraft's Forge and Fabric: Forge is old mod loader, but still stays strong and well, and Fabric is a little bit more fresh, but has it's own neat thingies.
I honestly like psych engine because of the background added to the weeks and we get to see the credits and enable middle scroll and how the enemies health bar color change and the splash tapping and the color details for blammed and like how we change our keybinds and awards I don't have a computer to play
As a Chromebook user, Psych Engine is a lot easier to make mods with because of how you don't need to go into the spurce code to mod (.hx files don't show up on Chromebook). Though the only problem is finding a way to add dialogue and stages, becuase those require you to go into the source code.
kade engine tries to do too much and ends up shooting itself in the foot when trying to make the game easy to mod with a bunch of different options (you have to download 5 different things to make mods, most of which could have easily just been condensed into one kadeengine maker software), psych engine is kade engine if they actually knew what they were doing
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For me, Kade was mostly about making the game more confortable, and opening up to a Osu-esque audience.
And psych was about expanding the cartoon goofiness fnf is known for, and probably showing what one could expect from the full-ass release.
Also, a reminder that psych's lead coder also worked on a multiplayer engine, so multiplayer COULD be added to psych, idk.
I hope shadow mario decides to import the multiplayer mod to psych
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thats kind of why i like psych. i prefer games like osu to fnf, so if i want to play a more serious rhythm game, i would. psych is far more "fnf" to me. if i want to play fnf, i want an fnf-like experience, not something akin to osu
@@banatg yeah, thats just what I get from it. Kade is developing a original rythm game tho so maybe he's more confortable in that field instead.
then again, kade is making a full on multiplayer rhythm game so if one day he returns to the fnf scene for a bit it could alsobe added
Psych Engine has built-in custom events, almost everything is soft-coded, and has a better input system than Kade Engine. On the other hand, Kade Engine is MUCH more customizable with circle arrows, and offset, so both of them have goods and bads. But then again, Psych Engine is in its beta phase, so we can all come together and say that both are good in their own ways.
EDIT: Sorry, I meant to say kade engine has a better input system than psych engine lol...
(Opinion btw) pysch engines inputs are pretty *ok* however the way it tackles is actually pretty worse in most note heavy scenarios
The modding potential for pysch engine is amazing
I know pysch engine is good, but I still think that the kade engine is better than pysch engine
psych engine has good input but made has INSANE input, and you can change your offset in psych.
the day psych has a built in stage editor is the end of made engine (sad to see it go)
Id Personally like to pick psych engine, because you dont have to use the source code to make a mod, you can just put all the assets you need, into the mod folder, and you can make the mod easily and quickly
@⭐Starman⭐ if they did that which would be cool alot of mods would make em sfx and that would be a handful of the modd
And spam
but if you want to change the background of the gameplay then you need to code
Well it’s true, and. That helps a lot to the new people but, people like me which code like someone insane I personally pick one or other if I want to make it fast or not, btw I still use the KE 1.5 cuz I still coding stuff, I work le like to go whit the new KE or psych but I can’t :(
Not even coding with psych engine, but it is just more fun and clean to play on.
Kade's current antimash system is completely based on hit windows. There is a reason why "Bads" or lower judgements take your health or even break your combo - that counters mashing as mashing makes hits very inaccurate.
On the other hand, psych uses a manual antimash system that tries to detect if you are mashing, which often leads to input drops. Right now, bad note timings won't take your health or break your combo - which suggests the other system is in play.
Psych's newest version now implements keyboard callbacks, which was implemented in KE 1.5, meaning it's input system should be comparable to Kade's now, but the manual anti-mash system is still there.
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True.
This is my reason I why I hate Kade’s engine
guess you do win
Bad accuracy making you miss is known as cb rushing in games like etterna and osu!mania.
If we combined Psych engine and the Kade Engine, the world would implode due to sheer modding perfection
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It literally wasn't lol, if it was. Cry about it
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I WOULD LIVE FOR THIS CROSSOVER ENGINE
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yup it would be pro
Honestly, I prefer Psych Engine.
It took what was most necessary, and then built it's features around those.
It's in beta, but imagine what a future release might bring with it.
Hell, perhaps it'd even surpass Kade Engine, due to how easily you can mod it?
YOU HAVE ALL THE REASON (in my opinion)
someone made a platformer with psych engine
@@bacon-sandwich4726 anyways now psych is now included with these features
many people will say the same. but pysch is really user friendly, even down to adding weeks. its insane. porting stuff from kade to psych is really easy, so psych for me.
I love how psych has lua support and almost everything is softcoded
Kade Engine also has lua support
I don't know how well it is though since it's been a long time I've messed with Kade Engine, much less its lua stuff
@@SuperKoolRaven as of right now i think it only has modcharts
@@bacon-sandwich4726 yeah, also isnt kade engine practically dead?
@@SuperKoolRaven yeh pretty much, rn i heard most ppl are using Forever Engine if they're not using psych, mosty due to optimization and easy source code with FE
@@bacon-sandwich4726 damn
Psych Engine so far is already better in my opinion. Not only is the in-game mod support already great, allowing for you to make a full blown mod with unique mechanics and new note types, all while being much simpler to understand for a newbie to coding and only requiring basic knowledge of lua coding. (and from teasers we've gotten from Shadow Mario in the Basement Club discord, shits gonna get even better with an in-game mod manager allowing you to manage your mods better and to essentially create whole ass modpacks) but it also provides more to the base game, along with making it easier to add events during the song without required changes to the code of the game. The only issue currently is the lack of an option for a more detailed accuracy system, and the anti-mash could be improved. Beyond that, it's already a great engine as is.
Kade Engine has better input in terms of competitive play. Mods like the Camellia mod strive off of Kade BECAUSE it's focused around other rhythm games which are less forgiving and overall more difficult than FNF is. It even provides some modifiers like allowing you to play any chart with any scroll speed and even change the overall speed of a song. However, past that, it's currently horribly optimized in it's more recent updates and doesn't provide nearly as much as Psych does for modders.
While at the end of the day its an engine for a game where you play as a short ass blue haired bastard who learned english from a fax machine so it doesn't matter much. But if you had to choose, Psych is definitely the way to go for casual play and generally for modding as well.
one thing you forgot to mention that I will say here, Psych Engine lags way less on low-end computers than Kade Engine does.
Psych engine its on its starting versions, imagine on the future, gonna be better than kade engine. With custom notes like funky friday, like diamond and circle, or other. And it made good mods like friday at treasure island and hypno lullaby. Imagine at future versions.
Not to mention that it's already pretty optimized, somebody ran run with 400 NPS on almost all engines and Kade lost but Psych won even though it lagged for around 10 seconds. I also think the bot is better
@@trickytheclown5412 the bot is better. i imported the unfairness chart and it got through it and it can probably do pineappled too. (kade's botplay on pineappled misses)
Pretty much the only thing about phyic engine that is better is how easy it is to mod and the charter if kade engine makes it easy to mod and makes a better charter phyic engine will die
Yes its ez to make a mod and you CAN PLAY FNF IN PATATO
@@splualies6833 psych is also easy to install it doesn’t require the webm extension and others and also it tells you if there’s an error and no need to hardcoded to add some characters and week, what I like about psych is how simplified this engine is
With Psych engine, coding and adding custom weeks and stuff is WAY easier then kade engine. Plus, you can just add all if not most of kade engines features like arrow textures etc. You can legit do pretty much anything if it can be coded into the game. I find Psych is way better. (It's MY opinion, not anyone else's so don't come hating on me for my opinion. I'm speaking for myself. Not you guys)
i actually agree
If I was able to code, I will combine both Kade and psych with a side of modding + and mag with mic'd up to make the X engine(x for xevent)
Do you know how much time and work it takes to do that even if you “were able to code”
@@prynomite5627 dreams are dreams, even if it takes a lot of work and effort, you can still get there.
@@Rtlxbcynot Never said he couldnt, but it doesnt change the fact it takes alot of motivation, effort and talent to achieve this sort of goal.
@@prynomite5627 yeah,imagine how much time will take to build all mechanics together
@RTFGMKLJ That and OS engine
In my personal opinion? Maybe it's just the lack of feature bloat like Kade, but I think Psych is much better overall. On my low-end PC, trying to play anything in Kade just... doesn't work well. But I have little to no issues when I play a mod with Psych. So I fully support Psych over Kade.
Just combine both of them and we should have a pretty good engine indeed, grabbing both things that make them good and putting it into one engine.
I couldn't ever get source code to work so now that psych engine came in I was able to make my first ever mod and now greater ones to come!
Thank you Psych Engine!
Fun fact: I looked at the code for the desync bug. The audio timer is behind the chart timer that's why this happens.
honestly i would like to see both psych and kade combine in some sort of way since theyre both really good engines and its hard to pick just one to stay on
kade engine's better for difficult and past songs, i.e. best example, vs camellia, putting any of the harder songs in psych the anti spam will actually destroy you if youre less accurate, which can stunt progress and make the player less motivated, but, psych is a lot more casual and what id say is the better engine for friday night funkin, as its not about hard or difficult songs, but goofy scenarios and characters and a fun artstyle and animation, which, psych pairs with well, its basically a dev friendly version of regular friday night funkin with ghost tapping
@Piteous and id say its right for that, the anti spam in KE does destroy you for just fat fingering other notes at the same time, i just wish psych engine had Kade Engine's note registration, or KE had Psych Engines accessibility and features, theres just something about playing hard charts (mainly camellia charts ive noticed) in kade engine rather than psych that seem to appeal more and feel more clean, i just prefer the anti cheat in that imo, i think the judgements are also pretty deserved, though SHIT being a miss is pretty annoying, other than that though psych engine is perfectly fitted for FNF style songs, not insane shit like camellia, so it does its job, and kade engine lives up to what its said to be, a competitive build for fnf
then just use kade engine 1.2. that is the version before anti spam came in.
@@PeppermintOSC i think its a good thing
remember when this was an actual question,,,,
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In KADE, the sprites are in spritesheets, making it a lot easier to keep track of what you have done, whereas stuff like the HUD, the MAIN MENU, and more are split on Psych, so win on Kade for me!
ALL THE SPRITES IN EVERY ENGINE IS A SPRITESHEET DINGUS
@@pixelatedluisyt not really if you think of it from literally every element. All of the health icons, all of the menus, and else are grouped in Kade. Psych splits each element
I say psych engine is the best engine can be used because it is:
1. Smooth on low end pc's
2. Complete Settings
3. With Amazing Achievements
4. Soft Coded (and more)
While Kade Engine is also better so I think two of it are better engines for fnf moddings.
My iSuffer celery nonsense3060 can't even run it
in my honest opinion, both are great in their own ways
agreed
Psych engine is better than Kade engine
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Btw fnf og and psych engine charting allows you to have precise note placement, just hold shift.
In all honesty, Psych Engine has many things that Kade doesn't, i.e. it is very thorough in terms of mod development. Psych has thought of everything, from creating new weeks to almost perfectly placing notes in a chart by looking at the blue soundwaves. Every error you make, it is often easy to spot and fix the mistakes. It is also technically user friendly (if you are patient and follow instructions from the engine or online). Another thing I noticed was that you can add events and custom animations, which I thought it was pretty cool.
That being said, and sorry to all of the Kade people, if you want to save yourself from major grief, Psych Engine is the better way to go instead.
I personally think that both engines are amazing in their own way so there is no 'best engine' for me.
Just gotta say the damage notes being so easy to put in makes it so there ain’t a single psych engine mod without them
I still prefer kade engine mainly because that is a more well known engine and also it has actual controller support which psych engine could definitely use as using the control stick is fine but i prefer the buttons
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Most people: Kade Engine and Psych Engine
The chad: *MIC’D UP ENGINE*
Honestly if I were to make a mod I would definitely use Psyche it feels nice for beginners! And it makes modding so much easier! Not saying Kade Engine is bad but Psyche is definitely really good!
It is
It’s not hard either after you search up a tutorial and get used to the mechanics
I just started today and I’m loving it
Everyone talks about which engine is better, but I don't hear enough people talking about how awesome it could be if we mashed up Kade & Psyche together
What if we mash up mic'd engine and psyche engine, it would more better
psych is very good with the awards,making you have more fun or pain and not just play all week and finished
imagine if these both will be combined
I absolutely love middlescroll and circle keys, so this is a win for kade
Psych also adds middle scroll and you can add circle notes by editing files
The kade engine sure did evolve while i was looking at psych
I would say that psych is easier for making basic stuff, and is therefore better for simpler mods, where as kade is better for the easier coding + all the extra stuff that you can leave players to work out, making it better for bigger mods
I didn't know I'd find you here lol
I still remember when engine wars for this game was relevant
Aged amazingly
I personally like kade engine but there are things like lag that could be solved and one or another error on the other hand psych is quite good at optimization although sometimes the input fails but everyone chooses their favorite engine since that is the point of making a mod have fun with your preferences
another thing, if you use or will use or never use it and you don't care lol the best version of jade is 1.5.4 and 1.7 since they don't have much lag
You totally missed the "mods" folder in Psych, it's super useful and you don't need to use the "assets" folder for almost anything!
Kade good input system+ physic engine good modding = Great Engine
Psych. But everyone should honor Kade Engine. A true masterpiece in time of need.
The kade engine is how a lot mods emerged
4:33 BRO THE SUBTITLES GOT ME💀
Im going for Kade Engine because its so cool so you can do whatever you want to customize the settings :)
I did 5 ports for psych engine because it's easier to code there
I did Smoke em out struggle, vs annie, arcade showdown, tales from the raveyard and high effort hank
Kade honestly feels a lot more clunky and unpolished, like it’s a dev tool more than anything. Psych feels like a clean, genuine improvement to the base engine and really feels like what the full official game could be.
Now, speaking as a person who doesn’t know how to code, I prefer pysch engine due to obvious reasons that everyone has stated already.
However, in terms of which one is better?
I’d say that if one actually knew how to code, and was attempting to make a big mod and are willing to put in the large amount of time for it, then Kade is likely better. Again, I wouldn’t know since I don’t code, but I’m assuming that’s the case.
1:30 there's more information about kade and psych ( its about the arrows ) , in kade , if u press a long note , the player health bar doesn't go further , but 4 psych , it goes differently
Not sure about on PC but for making mods on Mobile Psych Engine is easily the best
Not only is it the least laggy engine EXPECIALLY with optimized sprite packs, but the character editor REALLY helps with fixing sprites
Only real issue with it is a bug with charting that will place a random note or event where I don't want one :/
So true
In my opinion, they each are better for their own things. Kade Engine has better inputs and is more customizable for the person playing the mod, while Psych Engine lags less and is more customizable for the person making the mod. Also, Psych is easier to mod if you have no coding experience and has a better chart editor, however it is mostly limited to what the engine provides. Kade Engine, on the other hand, is harder to mod and requires a bit of coding, however, due to this, Kade Engine's potential is as high as the language it's written in, as YOU make and add all the features, instead of having to use pre-made ones.
So overall, Psych is easier to mod and is better for newbies, while Kade is better for the person playing the mod and has more potential, but is harder to mod and lags more (then again, since you can add or change anything, it is possible to reduce this lag yourself).
Imagine if both combined
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Then a AwEsOmE gAmE
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Kade Engine: Hit 27 or 28 note and you have full health
Psych Engine: hit 30 or 31 note and you have full health
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Agreed :)
I enjoy Psyche engine since its more user-friendly and allows people to get a good understanding of making their mod. What's pog is that this runs in Lua.
good comparison
you forgot the bg freaks being all glitchy and stuff in thorns
Psych engine is better in my opinion
3:25 "Kade's Charting opens really quick"
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In my opinion, I like both engines. It really doesn't matter to me which engine is used
Psych also has a Character Customizer, so that way you won’t have to dig around the .xml files much
Sure, Kade (I think) has one too, but it crashes a lot
that is the OG FNF animation debug left over.
We just need psych and kade to merge their engines together for the perfect engine
i like Psych engine, it has custom events and i can change the character
also i can make it as a nutshell (lol)
yes,and its easier too
Wow I didn’t expect psych to be looking so much easier than Kade. It doesn’t even require code and overall the charting and graphics are much better. I think I might use it for mods.
In short:
Kade Engine: More for experienced users and coders
Psych Engine: more for beginners
I like Psych mostly because its fairly simple to use and making mods is a lot easier because of its mods folder and because most mods I like are made in it
I also sometimes ike to just disable vocals and turn on make sound for when BF or the opponent hits a note and listen to the "singing"
Fun fact: psych engine used kade engine to make that engine
My opinion, in Kade Engine, you can do more things but it's harder because it's coding rather than doing it ingame so you can do what you want. In Psych Engine, you can do some stuff but less things because you do it ingame and it might not have an option for what you want, maybe unless you download the source.
psych is way better in my opinion
I prefer Psych for multiple reasons:
1. Modding is easier now, and has a good amount of flexibility, and I can’t really script but there are still things I can do without LUA scripting
2. Middle scroll, helps with my readability
3. Charting is cooler, I can add events without additional scripting, just take a script from another mod (since I can’t script) and then I can apply those custom events and notes into my chart (an example is a chart for School I recreated with Accelerant bullet notes and Philly Glow event)
Kade Engine to me
@Lucas same. I meant to say that both are good.
i wish theres an engine that combine both pysch and kade engine
Nah man frick psych and kade imma use scratch
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Same
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This is my opinion.
1. Kade Engine is mostly coding and stuff for modding, targeting experinced coders. Psych Engine is just giving you the easy way out. Kade actually gives you plenty of options. It's better for you to use Kade so you can do more than what Psych does.
2. The effects on Kade feel just fine, you can even add some other effects (I think), Psych Engine's effects are just either weird or unnoticable. One effect you have to watch over and over for an achievement. The only thing you should be your eyes on is the arrows. It's like driving a car: the scenery is good, but you have to focus on where your driving to. Kade Engine is just fine. Psych Engine is also just ok.
3. Kade Engine is straight-forward. Do/Make a song with a blue haired thing against someone else. Psych Engine gives you more to do, it adds achievements, the stuff in the settings. It just gives you more options. However, it kinda distracts you from doing other things. I mean, I am still trying to beat the "watch thw henchmen die for 100 times" one.
4. These two engines are the most popular because someof their differences to the main game while others have other differences but don't get as much attention. Try the other ones, maybe! Im even making my own in the future. (Why is this a reason again)
Thats my opinion, but I don't like FNF, so your reading from a disliker's perspective.
I awsered psych engines, i love this game❗
Also psyche engine comes with built in hurt notes which is pretty cool
psych engine
I would choose pysch engine
-The name sounds pretty cool
-built in modding thing whatever its called
-those effect things (shown on blammed)
-splash notes awesome!!!
-the input is good
-and awards are quite nice to get
Psych
I’d also like to add that with Psych Engine, mods don’t even need an exe to play, you can just get the files and immediately run them using Psych, that alone got me to switch ngl
While psych is easier to do. Kade engine can do ALOT of things
I prefer Psych engine WAY more. I love that you can change you can change your note colors on psych engine. There's also a bug for me on Kade engine where if i only press one key. It makes me multiple that 2 times.
Now we need Psych Engine and V-Slice update comparison
Peeps a new engine is in the works with even a built in map editor and even easier modding
the only pain for me is that i got used to up - scroll now i can't train myself down scroll
If you want to make something simple, go for Kade. If you want to make some advanced mod with bunch of features, etc. Go for Psych
im p sure it's the other way around, but not exclusively
From my experience with Kade Engine, it is super laggy for me and is unplayable when using debug mode. I feel the kade engine Lua modcharting is sometimes too complicated and can be very confusing, I’d honestly prefer using source code for modcharting than the Lua gibberish. The circle note skin I will NEVER use because it is almost impossible to read the chart when the strums are moved around, it’s a literal guessing game when the strums are moved. I also like the customization of kade engine, but I think maybe there’s too many settings to the point where it could overwhelm the user at first glance. I feel the options need to be split into to categories, simple and advanced.
Psych Engine is actually playable on my computer and not stupidly laggy like Kade Engine. I can actually debug the game without it crashing. The Lua scripting is very easy to use once you learn the source code. The functions are named in a way that I can understand what they do without having to look at wiki. The options menu is very user-friendly, which I think Kade Engine fails to achieve. That doesn’t mean Psych Engine doesn’t have its flaws, let me list a few in 0.2.5h:
1. Tweens and setProperty crash the game on death, which is really annoying
2. No individual tween function at the moment
3. Teh null difficulty bug
What’s good about both engines? Well, they both fix fnf’s garbage input and accuracy calculator, they both are very easy to mod once you learn the source code (unless you are using kade engine’s Lua modcharting then it is hell,) and both are a good base for other mod creators.
My favorite out of the two engine is Psych Engine because it is simple, easy to use for intermediate programmers, has epic song effects (Philly has amazing visual effects,) has cleaner code, and is great for programmers like me. If you want an engine that has lots of features, an more advanced song charter, and a great input system, then Kade Engine is for you.
Also don’t send hate to the contributors and/or creators of both engines, I know how you people are (not saying that you do.) And don’t you dare put a nerd meme reply below this.
Honestly you dont even need source code for psych engine. The following things ill list is makeable in the official build (or beta):
-custom events
-custom notetypes
-even custom diffuculties!
-custom modchart (ex. Opponent floating, opponent attack/draining health, rotating game and hud, and moving or setting angle or setting opacity for the notes (i think you can do more!))
-ez mp4 extension for cutscenes
-easily add stages (ill explain why down below \/\/\/\/)
And it has a WAY BETTER charting than kade cuz:
-metophorne (idk how to spell)
-visible waveforms
-preset or coded events to use
-the ability to play/test your chart at any time of the song.
-preset/coded custom notetypes(alt animation, hurt note, no animation etc)
And also it has a really nice informative wiki that has tutorials for begginers(like adding a character) or for advanced people(like lua script API:tweens and timers)
ill also list some amazing mods that were made in psych engine
-hypnos lullaby (a legendary mod) by bbpanzu
-vs stickman by JzBoy
-the shaggy mod 2.5 or 3.0 by srperez
-vs sans a beautiful day outside by also srperez and mcchomk
-the holiday mod part I and II by also bbpanzu
-vs aflac remastered (by aflac duh)
-vs the chosen one idk whos the creator :/
IMPORTANT NOTE:
I actually never tried kade but from hearing some stuff psych is for begginer coders and easier to code, kade is for advanced shit like that stupid hex insane modchart that took like TWO FUCKING WEEKS to beat.
Also i despise kades input system im not playing etterna ok?
Thank you for ur time :)
i will pick physic engine because you can make a mod easliy,and also to mention about the note splashes they are really cool
2:28 Oh look! Pibby lights!
Leather engine, Dave engine, Bambi engine, Tristan engine staring from far away: .....
I prefer psych engine for messing around taking assets , scripts ect. beacuse in kade engine everything is hardcoded and in the source code so really you cannot mess around with it.
I mostly prefer psych engine because cade engine is just i mean when it comes up to like overchartted songs its just gonna be working because of the animation.
Psych Engine Is My preffered one. Reasons:
°It's Friendlier for coding beginners
°It Can Make Mods Look Hella Great
°The Options are Simplified,which is nice
°It Has Rewards,and Rewards are cool
°The Input System In Psych Engine is still good
Yeah but kades is better
These engines are just like Minecraft's Forge and Fabric: Forge is old mod loader, but still stays strong and well, and Fabric is a little bit more fresh, but has it's own neat thingies.
I honestly like psych engine because of the background added to the weeks and we get to see the credits and enable middle scroll and how the enemies health bar color change and the splash tapping and the color details for blammed and like how we change our keybinds and awards I don't have a computer to play
nobody is gonna talk how the pendulum almost syncs with the background music at 6:44
As a Chromebook user, Psych Engine is a lot easier to make mods with because of how you don't need to go into the spurce code to mod (.hx files don't show up on Chromebook). Though the only problem is finding a way to add dialogue and stages, becuase those require you to go into the source code.
kade engine tries to do too much and ends up shooting itself in the foot when trying to make the game easy to mod with a bunch of different options (you have to download 5 different things to make mods, most of which could have easily just been condensed into one kadeengine maker software), psych engine is kade engine if they actually knew what they were doing
i played one of your mods once! Youre really good!