What I Learned Completing The Great Divide Mountain Bike Route (GDMBR)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 มิ.ย. 2024
- Hello All. In this video I try and answer some questions about riding the GDMBR that have commonly popped up in the comments over the last couple of months, including reflecting on the decisions I made prior to setting off on my trip, what I might change if I did it again, and how much it all cost me.
I find it a bit uncomfortable making a video like this. As anyone who has watched a few of my videos should know, I do not consider myself any sort of authority to give advice on bikepacking. I am new to this, and the GDMBR is really the only proper extended bikepacking trip I have done. However, I thought it was an important video to do, as if nothing else I hope it gets across that if an inexperienced, moderately fit 50-year-old like myself can take on something like this and complete it, then most people can.
This is the second in what I plan to be three post GDMBR videos, with the last being a live stream Q&A that I will be doing at 19:00 BST on Friday 22nd September. Anyone with any questions about the ride, or anything semi-relevant, please feel free to drop in and ask it, or if you cannot make it then leave your question as a comment at the bottom of this video, and I will answer it in the livestream next Friday. It is the first live stream I have done, but I think I should be able to upload the video for anyone to watch after the event.
Thank you for watching.
00:00. Intro
00:57. Reflecting on decisions made prior to starting the GDMBR
06:44. How much my ride cost
09:05. Estimating the lowest budget I think is needed to ride the GDMBR
16:14. Final thoughts
Mat - thank you so much for such an excellent series of films on the GDMBR. I've watched every one and even my wife has been asking 'is there another film from Mat?!' Always entertaining and informative, but what makes them so special is your complete honesty, positivity and dry sense of humour. I've completed a few long distance tours in the States and the Great Divide has long been on my wish list. Your experience has only cemented my desire to ride it. Thanks again for sharing your adventure and I'll keep my eyes out for you when I'm next riding in Suffolk! All best wishes, Paul
Hi Paul. It's nice to hear that people enjoy these videos. It still amazes me that people watch them!! I hope you make it out to the GDMBR. I'm sure you'll love it. If you have any recommendations for tours in the States I'd love to hear them. I'll be getting out for more local rides more often. You never know, you might see me .... Cheers 👍
I finally came across your GDMBR video. It was terrific. Enjoyed every minute of it. I was a bike racer for a number of years and now that I'm older and slower moved towards a little more gravel and mt. bike riding along with my road riding. I've been thinking about some bike packing but have not done any yet. after watching your video it is high on my list of things to do. also with my retirement from work coming up in a few years maybe a GDMBR ride is in my future. Your ride inspired me to try it if I get the chance. Thank you.
Excellent. I'm glad you liked it. I love comments like this. I hope you make it out on the GDMBR at some point. It's an absolutely incredible trail. Cheers and thanks for watching 👍👍
A Good amount of information from an older rider. To be honest, I didn't know if I would make it through your video but by golly, it was to the bone honest. This is what I think we all need to hear. I myself just recently retired at 67 and so close to 68. Had a small bout with that flu thing last winter that was just enough to put me back on track with my concerns for personal health. A fairly avid cyclist, now becoming a daily walker and sights set on rucking and trail running. So many avenues to choose from yet one thing is for sure, if one is not enjoying the outdoors on their own terms then one is not truly living. Just recently purchased a gravel bike as my old roadie was getting tired and thought, I'd like to do some off road riding more so than dealing with any amount of vehicles on the roads. This is leading down a rabbit hole, I hope, to have a greater respect for myself and the outdoors, once again. Born and raised in SE Alaska, always outside. I have been an athlete all my life, at least thought I was until now. It seems as we age all of those yesterday/years ambitions come full circle and we are left with what our bodies are actually capable of......Found truth as though looking into a mirror. Finding courage, foresight and fortitude will be the challenge. Growth through these endeavors while meeting and enjoying all of the folks along the way I will say would be the icing on the cake. It's not the challenge, it is of the journey. ....Thank you for taking the time to put things in one man's perspective that I am sure will give us all some food for thought. Much appreciated sir.
I agree completely with your point about enjoying the outdoors on your own terms. I enjoy hiking, cycling and would love to try trail running at some point. I hope the gravel bike works out for you. I imagine Alaska has some pretty impressive trails to explore. Maybe one day I'll visit. In fact, I will definitely see Alaska at some point. I appreciate your comment and thanks for following along 👍
I think michaellane that we have to be attuned to what our bodies are actually capable of at any age. The difference, at our age (I'm also 67 ) is that it gets harder, i think, to distinguish between what are the actual physical limitations of our ageing bodies and the psychological limits we (and others) impose on bodies of our antiquity. I recently rode 3000 plus KMs to Alice Springs from South East Australia. More than 2000km of this was on very gnarly gravel, sandy or stony arid zone tracks. The key to completing this excursion (for me at least) was recognising when i needed to take a day or two(or three) out of the saddle to rest this aging body. And although i spent 46 nights in a tent, being able to rest my fossilising bones on a an ultralight air mat and sitting around my campfire on an ultralight chair made all the difference.
I love this comment for many reasons, mainly as it's reassuring to know that with the right mindset, and being aware of our limitations we can keep going and stay active. At 50 I'm reassured that I'm young and have plenty of time left. 👍 thanks.
nice comments... @michaellane1316
The video series was so helpful and inspiring to me. I've been getting back into cycling now that I'm retired and you reminded me that bikepacking is the most rewarding for me (versus mountain and road cycling). Looking forward to the livestream.
That's good to hear. I hope you have some bikepacking trips in mind. I'll hopefully see you on the live stream. Thanks for following along 👍
Thank you for your honesty, adventurousness, whingeing when needed, abject humour, solid advice, inspiration, outright fatigue, incredible landscapes, amazing people along the way, love of the little things… Now, go look up the BC trail!
Thanks. I think you summed it up perfectly. If I released a DVD l, that would be on the back!! I would love to get back to BC so I'm going to start seeing what it's all about. Cheers and thanks for the support 👍
Unfortunately we don't have a good network of tracks and paths for cycling. Most of it is to be done on roads and highways. I envy the Euro Velo. I am looking at cycling along the Danube later this year. If you make it to Australia let me know as I am happy to host in Brisbane
I imagine it's still an amazing experience. I would like to visit everywhere eventually. It might be impossible but I'll try. When I make it over I'll definitely be in touch. Thanks for the offer. Cheers 👍
last year I rode the GDMBR but started in Deadhorse Alaska, used 80 days $31 avarage (did around 30% wildcamp 50% cheap campground and 20% expensive campground with showers/washing machines for some comfort and cleaning.
95% I cooked myself what reduces the cost a lot and because I had to be able to take 7 days of food because of Alaska I was able to buy cheap supplys ad the large suppermarkets. but then it made my bike bit heavy
Next summer gona do from Vancover to baja divide and mexico divide on my way down south :)
HF from the netherlands
That's the kind of daily figure I need to aim for. I've added more capacity so I can carry more food. Your trip for next summer sounds incredible. Cheers 👍
Your presentations are both humorous and informative, as well as having a very positive effect on my anxiety. Your videos should be used by therapists, really, it works.
It's really interesting to hear that you find me therapeutic. I've had people tell me they require therapy after knowing me....I'm genuinely glad my videos help. Thanks for following along 👍
Mat thanks for sharing the trip with us. These are my favorite Great Divide videos. Your great spirit and wry wit are a winning combination. Hope you bring us along on the next one where ever you decide that will be.
Thanks. I'm glad you liked them. I really enjoy the whole TH-cam thing so I'll definitely be making more. Thanks for following along 👍
Thank you so much Mat! This really is a very helpful and inspiring video. I’m gonna check out the videos of your tour!
Excellent. Thanks for watching. Fire away with any questions 👍
Hey Mat this has been a great series and I have loved watching every minute. I look forward to following more of your adventures.
Cheers 👍. Thanks for following along. I'm planning more adventures already..
Super stoked by your adventure. Thank for sharing your days on the trail.
No problem. I had an amazing time and really enjoyed the whole filming process 👍👍Thanks for following along 👍
What a fantastic journey & brilliant videos,loved watching every single episode,well done to you all 👏,can’t wait for your next bike packing adventure 👍🏻
Thanks for watching the videos. I'm glad you liked them. I'm planning some more trips in the near future. Cheers 👍
Matt I absolutely loved this series of videos. Your down to earth, tell it how it is style is so refreshing and also informative as to the challenge. Thank you for taking the time to make them.
Thanks for the great feedback. I'm glad you enjoyed this series. Cheers 👍.
In 2005 I bike-toured in the US for 50 days solo and another 25 with someone else. We spent a little over 10$ each per day on camping, food and miscellaneous. With modern prices that would still be less than 20$. But as you said, we had four panniers each and I only had to resuply once at a gas station. We were also young and camped out every night and had more free sites than paid ones. I also seemed to be broke so people sent a lot of trail magic, probably worth a couple of hundred dollars. I remember going through Utah, where I had to resuply at a gas station, buying the bare minimum to get me through to the next supermarket two days down the road. On the way to my designated camp spot a car stopped, handed me drinks and fruits and told me that they managed to get the last available campsite and invited me to stay with them and to eat with them, so I was able to add a well needed rest day without buying food, which would have been impossible anyway or paying for camping.
When I will one day do the GDMBR and hopefully connecting to the Baya Divide I would probably be spending 50$ or more per day.
Insurance, bikes, flights all add up to those costs.
I definitely spent too much. I like the $50 per day target. I think that is achievable for me in future too. It's amazing how kind people are on these trails. Your Utah story says it all, those experiences are the ones which stay with you. I hope you make it onto the GDMBR. The Baja Divide is definitely on my list too. Cheers 👍
Thank you! Your journey gave rise to a new (and possible) purpose in my life.
That's nice to hear. I would urge anybody to try bikepacking. I'm convinced it's the best way to travel. Cheers 👍
Thank you for sharing your great divide adventures. What an adventure. Your advice, tips, and enthusiasm have got me thinking about my own trip 🙂
That's great to hear. I hope whatever you have planned works out. Cheers 👍
Thanks for sharing your ride report and openness. It inspires me too! :)
That's great to hear. Thanks for watching 👍
I've really enjoyed watching all your videos on the GDMBR. I originally found you when searching for info in the Sonder Broken Road, and then I got hooked on your videos of the wider trip. That says alot! (Although I bought a Brother Big Bro instead of a Broken Road 🙂) You're videos have been a welcome change from so many other 'trail vidoes' that leave you feeling like someone's been trying to school you for 30 minutes. Yours are just 'your thoughts and your trip, your way', and that's great. Congratulations on a great trip, and thank you! 😃👍
Hi. Thanks for commenting. I'm glad you enjoyed the videos. I know what you mean about feeling schooled. I haven't seen the Brother Big Bro but will take a look. Great name. Cheers 👍
I am planning to do the GDMBR next year and this has been a great help. Thank you.
Good to hear. If you have any questions just ask. Cheers 👍
Glad to hear you had a great trip. I enjoyed watching the series. It is awesome that after a 62 day trip… you’re only regret was not having a front rack really. Looking forward to your next adventure series!
Thanks for watching..I'm surprised that I haven't needed/wanted to make more changes. I've fitted the new rack already!! Thanks for the support 👍
Thank you Mat, I definitely enjoyed your videos, like I told you before, I used your videos as a guide during my adventure between Banff and Missoula, I was riding around 10 days behind you, so I waited for your videos to show up.
Fantastic adventure, I’m with you 100% and I feel that it was a privilege to do what I did. We are 8 hours behind England time here in California, I hope I can participate this Friday.
Hi. I remember your comments. I'm glad my videos helped. It was an amazing trip and you're right, we were both lucky to be able to be out there. Hopefully you'll make the live stream. Cheers 👍
Wise words Mat, thanks for sharing your expenses and experiences, you are an inspiration
Thanks. Always nice to hear. Thanks for all the support 👍
Thanks for all your videos Mat!!!!! I really enjoyed watching your adventure. My wife and I would look forward to a new episode every few days. I also appreciate your feedback after completing it. Well done Sir!!!!!!
Thanks. It's nice to hear that you enjoyed these videos. I'm out on a short bikepacking trip tomorrow and have a few trips planned so there will be more videos to come. Cheers 👍👍
Thank you for sharing your adventure with all of us. I really enjoyed the whole series. Expensive...🤔....life is expensive.
Cool you mentioned the Surly Bridge Club. I bought one a couple months ago. Great bike. I also have a 2017 Surly Ogre. I've only put 300 miles on it,on purpose. I have it stored inside. Saving it for a big trip. Retirement is in another month. 🚵♂️👍
Thanks. It's good to hear that you enjoyed these videos. You're right...life is expensive. I'm drawn to the Bridge Club. I've seen people put 700c wheels and widish road tryes on them so they're excellent commuter bikes. It's tempting. The Ogre is an awesome bike. There were a lot of them on the GDMBR. Good luck with the retirement. Time to take the bike outside!!!! Cheers 👍
Feral!!😂😂 I like it😂😂😂 Always good to be a little on the wild side.
Life's for the living 😊. Enjoy your adventures, and have fun. I know your videos make many people smile, so you're doing a good thing.
Thanks. I'm feeling less and less rat like every day ...
Great video! Very informative and helpful. Thanks for the answer to the question I posted in your last video, i.e., July timing of the ride. Waiting for my bike to arrive, Tout Terrain Outback Xplore 275.
Awesome bike. John loved his. He had the 29" wheels. I like the 27.5" ones because of the huge amount of clearance you get, essential in the mud. You'll love it. I also liked the method for tensioning the belt. It was definitely easier to do than on my bike. Cheers 👍
Glad you checked in. Great summary!
Thanks. Glad you liked it. Cheers 👍
Mat- enjoyed watching your adventures. I have ordered a Broken Road Pinion with the new smartshift electronic shifting. Hoping to get it by the new year. You are an inspiration. Looking forward to seeing your next adventures.
Hi. Excellent. I'm sure you'll be happy with the new bike. I saw that they have produced a new electronic shifter. It looks very impressive. I'll be interested to hear what it's like. Cheers 👍
Cannot thank you enough Matt , for being so candid and informative. Most of all , you have been truly inspirational!!! Maybe I can convince you to ride the Dempster Hwy to the Arctic Ocean?
Thanks. I've just started watching a video about it based on your recommendation..Thanks for letting me know about it. I have a list and I suspect this one will be added to it. Thanks for being a regular commenter. It's really appreciated 👍👍
Merci mat et bravo…tres apprécier …j ai eu beaucoup de plaisir a te suivre dans ton aventure.
Thanks 👍. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I had an amazing time.
Loved loved loved watching your journey.
That's great..I'm glad you liked it. Cheers 👍👍👍
Good to have you back in the UK mate and intresting to see the costs …looking fwd to your n3xt adventure. Atb Coops 👍🏻🚴
Cheers Coops. I'm already planning the next one. cheers 👍
Hi Mat
I haven’t commented much but I’ve loved your adventure, eagerly anticipating the next instalment. I wasn’t expecting this breakdown video of costs and whatnot, but it’s really helpful. Your videos have given me waves of nostalgia about my past bike-packing trips, and you have inspired me to ride this route next summer. That is, of course, dependant on getting in better shape!! As we’re in the same part of the country, I’d love to buy you lunch at some point and have a good old chat about the ride, and past, and future adventures. Will send my contact details through our mutual associate. Nice work, Mat!
Sounds good to me. I'll take any opportunity to talk about this route. I'm glad you enjoyed the videos and it's good to hear that you'll be back out on the GDMBR next year. I'll be in touch once I have your details. Cheers.
Thanks for all the information it's really helpful . I ended up buying a Salsa Fargo (being assembled at my local REI) and planning a two night trip in Tahoe . Got to work my way up to the GDMBR .
Nice bike!! I'll be interested to hear how you get on. That sounds like a great start. Good luck 👍👍
Matt, thanks for the great day by day series!
I'm glad you liked this series. Thanks for watching. Cheers 👍
awesome, Mat. I definitely appreciate the details re: finances as this has been a big question of mine. Just as some type of ballpark idea, considering all the variables... I hope to ride the divide someday myself! Thank you!
I hope you make it out there. You'lI love it. I definitely went overboard on that trip and I'm glad it helps with your budgeting. Cheers 👍
Great video! I would have chosen a 4" front suspension fork with a lock out. Your commentary on the cost is much appreciated! The Gates Pinion drive is a no brainer. Great job on your Great Divide Mtn biking trip.
A suspension fork with a lock out would have been a good option, especially on washboard. The Pinion/Gates combination was flawless. Thanks for watching. Cheers 👍
Thanks for documenting! Semi looking forward to it
You'll love it...honestly. cheers 👍
Thanks for the encouragement and inspiration!
Mat, this is a very truthful honest video, I'm glad I had the time to watched. the best part is when you mention " is a privilege to do what you love to do" and you are 100% absolutely correct, for years I try to do something like that, unfortunate my line of work and were i work, time is a huge issue. I'm 65 now I wont give up my dream to do something like that, Ill will start AZ loop which is about 130+- miles. I thank you for your video it was very good, and I had no idea about the expenses, but like you said something's we can make changes and adjust, research and take the time to get it down pack.
but the most important part is to enjoy while you can and healthy enough to do it. Life is short. we all know that. Thank you.
PS: soon to retire... and is lot on bucket list! LOL
Hi. Great comment. Thanks. I love cycling because I believe it's something you can do at any age. John, who you'll remember from my videos, was 67 on the GDMBR so age doesn't need to be a barrier. I'll have a look at the AZ loop. Life really is short. Good luck with your travels. Cheers 👍
I really enjoyed this discussion. You are right down to earth and touch on some good topics about how one can tackle this infamous trail and just make it an affordable, rewarding journey. I live in the Teton Valley and I can totally relate to your respect for grizzlies! We carry bear spray everywhere! Never underestimate how ornery a moose can be either!
Well presented, appreciated and thanks for taking the time to share. Love to see your bike and bag set up - there I expect you can discuss what worked for you and what you are thinking about changing. Done as a bicyclist, not a hopped up gear head!
Thanks. You live in an amazing place. I'm jealous. Luckily I never had to use it but having bear spray with me really calmed the nerves (a bit anyway). Thanks for watching 👍👍
The verb "spend" is applicable to mainly two things, money and time. The dollar cost of the GDMBR is fairly trivial, whereas the cost in time borders on astronomical. For those of us who aren't retired, can't take a paid sabbatical, or aren't unemployed drifters, time is the most costly issue. And the problem to solve is how to find the time. For myself, with work, kids, pets, and the like, the time requirement is beyond my budget. So, I'm working on riding sections, something which can be done in 10 days or so, which is the most time I can afford.
If you ever make it out to Japan, look me up. There's some pretty good riding here, the food and beer are excellent.
Very true. Time off work definitely needs to be factored in. I've kept my life as simple as possible (no house, no kids etc.). It's the only way I could manage trips like this. I'll probably pay the price one day but that's fine. I'll definitely be in touch if I make it to Japan. Cheers.
Matt, you’re the reason I am very serious of buying the sonder broken road titanium bicycle in the uk! Because of you! I was planning a fitting appointment with an other bicycle, but, in time I am changing this! Thank you very much!
With the pinion gearbox of course!
You won't be disappointed. I love mine. Good luck with yours. Cheers 👍👍
Thank You for this Mat. It was a big thought of mine. I also plan on hiking a bit. Maybe 3 days in Polebridge.
Sounds good. Good luck with your adventures. Cheers 👍
@Mat I really enjoyed your trip video. It was brilliant, mate. I loved your effusive sense of gratitude and appreciation first and foremost. Your self-awareness and self-criticism about your tendency to rush and push too hard was an enlightening share, and tbh I have found myself thinking about that specific trip as needing 100 mile days because I saw others doing that. But your trip looked FAR more enjoyable!
I also loved that you made friends along the way and included the merry band of nutters in your video!
Now you've shared the costs and I really want to do it.
Thanks. I'm really glad I found that pace. In retrospect I'd like to have taken even more time, maybe next time. I can't recommend that trail enough. It's truly exceptional. I hope you make it out there. Cheers 👍
@matryderadventures I hope so. But...since I am married and I am the only income I can't take time off. I work as a contactor and don't get time off.
So probably the closest I will ever get is to watch others do it.
I'm 58 y.o. now and so time is running our for me.
Thanks for the helpful video. All the best!
No problem. Thanks for watching 👍
Hi Matt, yes the expences for the tour was a little high, the airline tikets are high when not booked in advance. But overall the experience and comradary with friends is a lifetime memory and the good feelings you had from the trip and the scenery is the highest enjoyment isn't it? I am sure in future trips you have a good idea how to make it more affordable and still have a great experience. One definite good point is time, when you have the time to do all of this is a win win situation. We all live once and why not enjoying life to the fullest? Good video and reflections indeed, cheer to you from the Oregon state USA.
The airline ticket for the return journey was very high. I should have booked earlier. I will next time. You're right, you can't put a price on experiences like these. I count myself lucky to be able to get out on trips like these. I'll enjoy the challenge of cutting costs in future. Thanks for commenting and following along 👍
Matt, - thank you so, so much for sharing your inspiring story. You brought an "experiential nuance" to your videos that I have seldom seen in this type of video. You were just being honest about what you were feeling and thinking instead of putting on some sort of false front. You approached the project with gratitude and a beginners mind, and I appreciate that. Am I reading too much into your story from my experiences in the long remote trips that I have done, or was that your intent? Sometimes travel is boring, tedious and unnerving, but that is balanced with unexpected pleasures and surprises if you can pause and experience them. I am now thinking the GDMBR will be in my future. From a long list of questions, I have selected just a few. Were there any times that you were concerned for your safety? (Other than camping in grizzly bears back yards.) Rural 'merica IS the land of ever bigger pickup trucks and motor homes after all, sometimes driven by folks who are "annoyed" seeing cyclists. My experience is mostly in wilderness areas of north America (CDT, PCT) and way off the beaten path in Nepal, so motor traffic does concern me. And what was or were the most unexpected thing(s) that you experienced?
Hi. Thanks for the kind comment. I have tried my hardest to be exactly who I am. It's definitely easier than trying to be something I'm not. I definitely made it clear that I was a complete beginner. I received so many great suggestions because of that. I also received a lot of encouragement. I'll add your questions to the list for the chat. I met with quite a few CDT hikers and anybody who can successfully tackle that trail is superhuman in my opinion. Cheers 👍 we
Stabilizers - that's a good one for "training wheels".
Mat, loved the series. The footage you shot is stunning. Thanks for the effort it took to film it and ride past and then have to backtrack to get the camera!
How about the European Divide? You would be one of the few if any that has done both!
Just a thought!
Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad you liked it. The European Divide is top of my list for the coming year. It looks amazing. Thanks for watching 👍
Very informative and I am betting helpful for anyone looking to do that route. Thanks for sharing. :) :)
Thanks. I hope people find it helpful. It's such an amazing route. I want everyone to do it!!!!
@@matryderadventures I enjoy biking but could never find a comfortable seat for long hauls. I tried to season myself and have tried I am sure a million seats, no success. I did a two night, three day trip years back and thought I would never walk again! haha! Now for a question: If you had to choose one, would it be belt or chain?
Your series is just the best, I really feel like I have a much better picture of the trail thanks to you. I look forward to seeing your next adventure,
I’m in Idaho and will be in MT, CO, and NM, I’d love to be able to stop somewhere with cold drinks and snacks when Kim there, is there a section that really stands out that could use a little trail help along the way?
Thanks. I'm glad you liked it. It's a shame we didn't see more of Idaho. I think anywhere in New Mexico is a good place to help out with drinks. I can't tell you how amazing it is when somebody hands you a cold drink when you're not expecting it. Thanks for commenting and thanks ( in advance) for any trail magic you manage to provide 👍👍👍
Another informative video, all the pertinent information!
I think an option to consider is buy a bike in the states, should be cheaper compared to here and bring it back. I’m considering that in the future.
All thanks to you. Truly inspiring
That is a good idea. The only downside would be the inability to get used to it before the ride. It would definitely make financial sense though. Cheers👍
I'm running a Marin 4Corners myself. When I take off next spring I'm going four panniers mostly so I can have more room for food and also want to bring my tent AND my hammock setup, both are ultralight, so weights not an issue and being able to use my hammock when possible, will be great. I think having my hammock tarp for when its pouring to setup a tent in will be nice too. I have a $3600/month budget, I'm going to try to keep it under $2000/month to save up some money with the lower the better. I'll say it again, I really enjoyed your series on the trip, was such great footage and as I learned from another comment, Ross did a great editing job on it. I can't wait to see what your next adventure entails. (hope some of the youtube monies helped pay for a bit of the trip)
It sounds like you're planning to do it in almost exactly the same way that I would if I did it again. I've fitted a front rack and ordered 2 X 5 litre panniers for the front. I will definitely be taking a tarp from now on but am not sure about the hammock. I think $2K per month is definitely achievable. Thanks for the support. Ross does a great job. It always surprises me what he makes from my footage. Cheers 👍👍
Really enjoyed the series, thanks.
Great. I'm glad you liked it. Cheers 👍
Awesome adventure, keep them going so you don't loose the feral edge.
That's the plan. I'm already becoming soft. I need to get back out!!! Cheers 👍
Not sure where the discrepancies are (haven't done a break down on my costs), but my total cost was $4,300. I was traveling with a friend the first half, so there was some shared lodging costs. That also doesn't include the air fare. Coming from Colorado, my flight to Calgary was only $250. My sister picked me up in New Mexico, so only gas etc. there. I finished the ride in 60 days.
As for the comment on tires, some people do finish on one set of tires, I think that is pushing it. I replaced tires about half way through. The front tire completely failed in the Basin, forming a large bubble, because the internal fibers had failed. Other than that, I replaced brake pads and brake rotors once. I replaced the chain twice. That was in part from getting a not very compatible chain at a shop in Butte, MT.
$4300 is very good. I think I could have reduced mine to 5K but without flights. Flights and transfers all add up. I agree with you about the tyres. I should have made it clear that tyres can and do fail. I saw a few. A failure in the basin is bad luck. I heard a lot of Maxxis tyres have this delaminating problem. I replaced mine a bit prematurely but wanted to make sure I was in good shape for New Mexico. Cheers 👍
Mat, some extra Aussie dollarydoos for some new tyres,or a pint or two😂
Thanks. That's amazing...I'll get a new front tyre and buy Ross and myself a pint. Cheers👍👍👍
Loved the series. In your last episode, "What I learned completing The Great Divide Mountain Bike Route (GDMBR)" you talked about the fear of Grizzly bears influencing your camping decisions. Beginning in Banff, were there other riders around that you rode or camped with so that you could ride with a group, at least temporarily?
I would have loved to have your riding mates play a bigger role in your episodes. It wasn't until the end that we learned that John was from Ottawa and Bill from West Virginia (and I think Paolo was Italian). How much of an impact did they have on your enjoyment of your ride? Did you have some negative experiences with other riders that you kept your distance from on the GDMBR?
Did your metal water bottles have a thermal liner to keep them cold? What brand were they or what brand to you recommend?
Water seemed like a big thing from Wyoming south. What was the maximum amount of water you carried on any section?
Thanks again, I'm hoping to do the GDMBR in 2025.
Hi. Thanks for the questions. I'll add them to the list for the live stream. We'll be publishing it afterwards for people who can't make it. Also, I'll answer all of your questions in a reply to your comment once that's done. I hope you make it out there in 2025. It's an exceptional trail. You'll love it.
Hey Mat, Re "Timing". The racers start the second week of June. I live in the mountain west, and feel June is early for a few reasons. Remaining snowpack in the high country; melting snowpack makes trails muddy; deeper creeks and runoff; plus the Forest Service and locals haven't had time to clear fallen trees from winter. Mid-July is a good time to start the Divide because you're farther north in Canada, temps are ok at night, plus you start off at altitude right away. Thanks again for your personal observations and humor. I rode half of the Divide, and went too lightweight for the areas south of Breckinridge, CO. Next attempt: small panniers and front/rear racks, full rigid drop-bar mountain bike, ability to carry more water and food. Happy trails!
I can't imagine how hard it is to race this route, especially so early in the year. I was very lucky with the weather even though I set off a little earlier than you recommend. I've added a front rack and bought some small front panniers so aside from the drop bars I'll be similar to your planned set up. I hope you get back out there soon. Cheers and thanks for following along 👍
Super helpful. I got more insight on the route from your videos than from any of the books. Gutted I missed the Q&A. Was out bikepacking.
That's a good reason for missing anything. Do you know much about the BC Epic?
@matryderadventures a little. I've ridden in that area, including the KVR, but haven't done the whole thing from Fernie to Merritt or even out to Vancouver (or the other direction). It's on my list.
@@taffnadian it's on mine too. I'm going to look into it.
@@matryderadventures let me know if you need any info. I'd be happy to help out with logistics or even ride it with you if you think you'd like some company.
You might of went into the GDMBR a novice but making it to the end puts you in expert class!
Maybe..I still think of myself as a novice. My experience is highly condensed. Maybe I can think of myself as having reached competent level? I need to get out for another few trips to reach expert 🤣Thanks
Thoroughly enjoyed all episodes of your GDMBR adventure Mat & appreciate your terrrific sense of humor & adventurous spirit! Kudo's on the awesome & entertaining job you've done through-out! So glad you met the other fellows along the way and enjoyed the wonderful camaraderie, friendships, & all the terrific memories as well. My biggest concern would be being on my own for 2,700 miles! I'm a retired 65 year old cyclist from Cary, NC who's been battling some hip ailments the past few years. May be getting a hip replacement in the not too distant future & hope that gets me back to the 10k miles I rode in 2019! I typically cycle about 5k - 6k miles a year but some home renovation projects have kept me quite a bit busier than I prefer this year. Thank you for this helpful video covering the trip costs and the analysis of what gear changes you're considering moving forward. I suspected you might benefit from a couple front panniers or fork packs as well so I was right about that part. That sporty black & white print shirt seemed to hold up quite well for you as well. Hey, being a chick magnet is never a bad thing at any age! Great job & keep on keeping on my friend!
Thanks. I'm glad you enjoyed this series. Always nice to hear. I definitely enjoyed having some riding companions out there. I met quite a few other people along the way and you'll never be alone on that trail unless that's what you want. 10k in 2019!! I won't get close to that. I'll try though. I hope the hip is sorted soon. I've already fitted a new rack and some 5ltr panniers are on the way. 'Chick Magnet' 🤣🤣. Never been called that before. Cheers 👍
@@matryderadventures Sorry I was going to remove the chick magnet comment but then I got busy this afternoon. Oh well, hope you don't mind my kidding around.
@@marks6041 I don't mind at all. I thought it was hilarious 🤣🤣
Your estimated cost of eating out just astounds me. I went on a 3000 km tour with 2 friends and maybe spent $400 over 5 weeks for “eating out”. We shared prepared meals often when camping. The cost of campsites is which surprised me at about $30-50/tent, some limited one tent/site which was ridiculous considering the size of a 1 person tent vs a family of 5-6.
The distance covered/day started out high but later reduced due to extreme temperatures and fatigue. I’ve since learned to cycle a “comfortable “ pace not like it’s a race.
When you cycle with some who train on road bikes, unloaded then switch to touring bike with 25-28kg of added weight they misjudged the physical effort required.
The GDMBR is something I’ve recently thought of as a tour. I’m a little confused on trails/routes people say they follow. Many show single track dirt paths while others used 90% paved back roads.
Hi. I went seriously over the top with food. I could have spent a lot less. Sharing prepared meals makes a lot of sense when you can. Campsites were fairly cheap on the GDMBR and you don't really need to stay on them at all for most of the route. There is often public land to camp on. I followed the route from the ACA. They have downloadable or printed maps. The GDMBR is very well defined by them. They also suggest lots of alternatives which is why it seems a little confusing. I stuck to the main route except for around 20 miles for a fire closure. I hope you make it out there. It's an incredible route. Cheers 👍
One of the reasons to do it in July/August is that at altitude, there can still be snow before then. After then, a lot of seasonal support evaporates. The Sierra Nevada is more susceptible than the GDMBR, but lots of bus services there shut down after Labor Day.
Great information. I seemed to time the trip well. Cheers 👍
You’ve started something now! I’ve been in touch with a mate in Vancouver who builds bikes, it’s his passion and has god knows how many! If, when, I go back there, we’ll build a bike for me, which will be good as I’m clueless about modern bikes. My last bike was a Grifter! Hope to join you on Friday! 👌
Nice!!! You have to go. I'm excited for you!!! I had a Grifter too, a red one. I wanted a silver one but that's life 🤣. In my head it was a huge bike but I bet it was tiny. Book your flights!!
This is great information. Such a good job explaining all the expenses! THANK YOU! I cannot wait to see another of your adventures.. Hopefully soon. Have you look into doing the Baja Divide?
Thanks. That's nice to hear!! I'll be out on some shorter trips soon but have a longer one in the planning stages. I would love to do the Baja Divide. It looks incredible.It's on my list..thanks for following along 👍🙂
Thanks for the video, how about crossing Australia next?
I will definitely get around to Australia. Soon hopefully. Is there a route across? I imagine it's a huge challenge.
Thanx for your reflections on your tour and for offering a q&a livestream!🎉
In case I can’t attended:
What was your worst/best decision on the tour?
What item did you bring and never used (I don’t mean the spare belt, that we all hoped you would not use; I mean something you could use daily but just didn’t)?
What item did you loose on the way?
Longest (biggest) day on the bike? Most distance, riding time and elevation gain?
Did you have cellular service? Costs on that?
What are plans for the winter? Next summer? In ten years?
Did you just send the raw videos? Or did you give Ross instructions?
Fantastic!!! And I was worried there wouldn't be enough questions.....Thanks 👍👍👍👍
Very helpful and inspiring!
That's good to hear. Cheers 👍
Helpful video. Thanks!
No problem. thanks for watching 👍
Have added this trip to my list for 2025! Also, I have no idea how you managed to ride, record, edit and upload at the same time!
Excellent. You'll love it. I cheat...I filmed and uploaded all the footage to my friend Ross who edited and uploded. I had the easy job!!! Thanks for commenting 👍
@@matryderadventures Hah! I wondered how the heck you filmed, edited, and uploaded out there. I can't imagine editing in an office (tech phobic) let alone at night after a rough day. Three cheers to editors! And to Mat for a great series!
Mat, you're my role model: your approach on life - how you tackle problems, general calm demeanor, matter-of-fact, and sense of humor are refreshing. I enjoyed your documentary style approach to the GDMBR series. Not only are your videos authentic, but the videos are good quality and well-edited. They are inspiring. For your upcoming livestream - Would you consider leading a bike tour with less experienced cyclists? How do you balance work and life for a trip like this, for me at my stage in life, this would mean doing the trip in sections.
Thanks for the kind words. I never know how to respond to such lovely comments so I'll just say thanks. I'll add your question to the list for the livestream. I'll think about your question. The strange thing is that I have approximately 2 months bikepacking experience so consider myself firmly in the novice category. My experience is highly condensed...Cheers 👍.
Adding more context, my biggest fears are thunderstorms and bears. What were the scariest moments when on the GDMBR or hiking? I have been caught out in a lightning storm before and car camped through lightning storms. Both were scary as you could get struck or hit with a downed branch. I focus on minimizing risk, but still admit I am scared when in that situation. Perhaps all I need to do is relax and admit that the situation is scary and I have done what I can do to minimize those risks, the rest it outside of my control. Did you take an SOS device (Garmin in reach / Spot)?
I forgot about the storms!! Yes, they are scary, particularly when you're exposed. There are quite a few sections of the route where there is nowhere to hide from storms and that was quite a stressful experience. I did the same as you and minimised teh risks. I took a Garmin Inreach. You probably know but it's the same sort of thing a Spot.
Thanks for sharing!
My pleasure. Thanks for following along 👍
It's not free, that's for sure. I haven't started my bikepacking career yet, although I plan to at some point, but with the GDMR as my big carrot this video is really great for costwise insight. Not $8k and certainly not $2k, but somewhere comfortably in between I guess. Hopefully. In the mean time I'm going to have to start off over here in Norway. A couple of nice trips around here too 🙂 Thanks for sharing, most useful 🙂
Norway is beautiful. I will definitely be planning a trip there.What a great place to start. I think $5K is a good budget. Good luck with your first trip. Thanks for following along 👍
It cost me more to fly home from Japan than a round trip there because I bought my ticket 3 days before I was leaving. Learned my lesson on that one.
I can be terrible at sticking to it but $30 a day is plenty to budget for a bicycle tour. Wild camp and don't eat out much. In Japan I went hog wild and was spending hundreds a day on hotels and restaurants but I wanted to experience Japan, if I did the route you did I wouldn't have spent much at all. When I rode across eastern Canada I was under budget.
I agree completely. I'll be approaching the TransAm with a much tighter budget. $30 per day sounds achievable.
Mat, I am planning to ride at least the northern parts of the GDMBR in summer 2024. I have thoroughly enjoyed your videos and big thanks to Ross for the wonderful edits!! My question for your livestream…I have tons of riding experience, but very little in the rain. What did you wear and how effective was it? I especially find it hard to keep my feet dry …What was your experience with that? Thanks so much for sharing your adventures…. Like you, I’m very shy about doing that sort of thing!
Hi. Thanks for the question..I'll definitely answer it on Friday.. we'll be publishing the live stream in case you miss it. Thanks for following along 👍👍
Sounds like a great adventure.
My worry would be bears. Especially after a very close encounter with one on a hike in Canada. Not sure I’d want to repeat that….
That was a worry for me too. Thankfully I only had positive encounters with bears but I'll confess I felt a huge amount of relief once out of Grizzly country. It's still worth the risk in my opinion. Thanks for watching 👍
Cool video, wish I saw you out there. Great channel, just subbed.
Excellent!! I watched all of your GDMBR videos before I set off. I really enjoyed them. I'm now catching up with your latest trip. Cheers 👍👍👍
The GDMBR ride cost me about 30 cases water $4 USD each case... I didn't ride it just gave water out for riders, 😂.
Nice meeting you.
Cheers. The water was much appreciated. It was good meeting you 👍
Chapeau Mat See you Friday rubber side down.
Excellent. See you there 👍
Great great job - loved it
Thanks 👍
Enjoyed your videos very much. I will be doing the GDMBR with Adventure Cycling Association in 2024.
In response to your requests for Bikepacking routes in Europe, I have some suggestions for off road routes in Spain. Al Ballut in Córdoba; Montañas Vacias mostly in the province of Teruel ; La Ruta del Cid from Burgos to Valencia. Route descriptions is available on line. There are also Facebook groups and Instagram accounts providing additional information.
Fantastic. Thanks for the information. I don't tend to use Facebook much (at all). I think I'll change that. The Facebook groups seem really useful. Good luck for next year. You'll love it. Thanks for commenting 👍
Questions for live stream: how difficult to get a campground spot? where was paved road traffic the worst? did you or when to lock your bike? any suggestions for gloves; my hands get cold easily? how big of a tarp would be sufficient to keep out of the rain? did your hands ever go numb? what kind of shoes did you wear? ever a problem getting chased by dogs?
This is amazing. I was worried that I wouldn't have any questions!!! I'll add them all to the list. The live stream will be published on TH-cam afterwards in case you can't make it. Cheers 👍👍
I hiked the 700 mile pilgrimage in Shikoku Japan and it cost 8k, the biggest cost was paying rent back home while I was away. :(
Sounds like an amazing trail. I didn't factor rent in, but should have. Cheers 👍
❤ good explanation
Cheers 👍👍
Hi Mat, glad to see you are settling into the uk weather, terrain again. Slightly more compact eh. Nice to hear how things went and your thoughts on what you'd do differently. This whole GDMBR series has been, as I said previously, very well put together. Live stream. I've not gone down that road yet. I'll try and be there on Friday. The offer to meet up still stands if you get time in your heavy media schedule, haha. Really looking forward to whatever you film in the future Mat. Cheers Graham. Now get to work! lol
Hi Graham. I hope all is good with you. I'm keeping an eye out for your next 'Me and the Bike' episode. I'm a bit nervous about the love stream but I think it'll be good fun. I definitely want to meet up at some point. Hopefully soon. I'll settle back into normal life and we can sort something out. Cheers!!
Well well, this video slipped through the net.
I was quite horrified at your eating out expenditure. Maybe it's because of how I grew up, but when I'm travelling with a tent I go into 'TightAsAFishesArse' mode, and aim to get by with minimum expenditure.
There's also a long winded reason why I skimp on lavish spending whilst bike or backpacking and it has nothing to do with saving money.
If I could comfortably ride the route in 60 days I'd take 70, as I like to have off route explorations or simply just spare time to lounge about.
So between that theoretical $2175 and your actual $8k 😱, I'd be quite happy with $5k
Great breakdown, thanks Mat 👍
I confess, I went a bit overboard on the GDMBR. I'll be looking to go TFA (as it shall henceforth be known) on the Trans Am, probably on the upcoming Europe trip too Cheers 👍.
Yes, indeed you did.
TFA, I like that abbreviation, and Europe is always a place that I do my utmost to employ that mode. I always find it expensive when travelling through and usually quiz the more scruffily dressed locals as to where they buy their food from.
On my next Europe trip I'll have panniers on my bike so I'll load up with bargain groceries whenever I get the chance.
Trans Am sounds great, what timescale are you aiming to complete it in?
Cheers 👍
@tonypaddler I'll use your technique of quizzing the scruffy locals. Panniers work better than anything in my opinion. They don't add anything to the overall width when you're actually riding.
I think I'll take around two months but will possibly take a little longer depending on how I feel.
Cheers 👍
@@matryderadventures yes, just follow the strongest body odour for the best bargains.
Europe will be a road tour so panniers all the way but I've converted my road touring bike to Gravel Lite with the addition of 37 mm tyres in case I fancy any off-road tracks. Or get lost.
I've just given the Trans Am a quick Google and it looks to be a great paved route.
Cheers 👍
@@tonypaddlerWhere are you headed?
Another great video Mat. Out of curiosity what Watch are you wearing?
I have an Archimede Outdoor 39. It's an automatic German watch with a hardened steel case. It's very tough. Cheers 👍
Excellent videos of GDMBR - thank you! On your livestream, I'd be interested to know how you felt leaving your bike and gear unattended while shopping, etc. We're you concerned of theft? Did you lock up much? Did you take anything off the bike (computer, etc) when you left it outside a resupply store, etc?
Great. I'll add this question to the list. We'll be publishing the live stream afterwards in case you miss it. Thanks for the question 👍👍
Brilliant, thank you.
No problem. Thanks for watching 👍
Mat me yet again . Even though my wife and I are on state pensions subsidised by company pensions ( which in no way are equivalent to Civil Service pensions ) I think that even at £8k if I wanted to really do it I could if I saved up. When you think a fancy super light weight racing bike would cost more if that's your thing. The thing that would deter me from doing it is as you said are those Grizzly bears as stray dogs are bad enough. I thinks probably more worrying for us Brits because whenever I have met American cyclists when I am over there on holiday they seem not to be too bothered about them. Dare I ask were there areas you rode through that also had wild cats roaming free. Ok by now you will realise that I am a scaredy cat but better to know I say. For now I will stick to local lanes and the South Downs. Regards Ted
Hi Ted. The bears are worrying but you can easily stay on municipal campsites where it's unlikely you'll encounter one. I genuinely think that, if you follow the guidance about hanging your food etc. you'll be fine. Every story I hear about negative encounters seems to have an obvious cause. As for stray dogs, I saw around 3, all in New Mexico. They just watched me ride past and didn't cause any problems. I've heard that people carry water pistols to spray them. I had no issues. Don't be put off. It's a fantastic experience. Cheers 👍
I never include what you call resupply in to the cost of any trip I do. Whether I am sitting at home watching too much TH-cam or travelling I still will be eating enough food to at least keep me alive. Definitely do not eat out as much as you did but it sure is a sweet treat every now and then. Best burritos I had on the route were in Helena.
I've never thought of it that way. You're right though. You have to eat anyway. I definitely won't be eating out that much in future. I spent way too much. I can't remember where I ate in Helena. I might look back through the videos. I made burritos at my camp last night. I'm experimenting with cooking at camp more. Cheers and thanks for following along 👍
@@matryderadventures Outstanding Mexican in Cuba. Had a rest day there and ate dinner twice, that was how good it was.
I think we went to the Mexican restaurant in Cuba but it had closed early. Shame because it looked good.
Thank you so much for taking the time to make this informative video. I am also a "research it till you fall over" kind of person and these quick little videos and insights help so much in peicing it all together. Quick question, if you were to factor in the expenses for your bikepacking gear, how much on average would you guess that to be? In edition to that, what would you say about purchasing a device like the Garmin Inreach, a satellite communication device? Cheers!
Hi. I would guess at around 7-8k sterling including the bike. I dare not figure it out properly. It would scare me. You seriously don't need to spend that much though. I went a little overboard 😬. I used the Inreach Messenger and would highly recommend getting one. It was reassuring to have the SOS facility and it actually came in handy keeping in touch with others on the trail. Additionally, the tracking facility kept everyone at home happy as they always knew where I was. Cheers 👍
@@matryderadventures Thank you so much! I really appreciate it.
Hope to make your live stream on Friday. How much does your bike and gear weigh? suggestion for a bike trip this winter is to go to Florida this January or February and do the Huracan300. It is a 330 mile bike packing loop in central Florida. I have a video on it on my channel. If you want to do more than one week you can add the 290 mile Tally Tango Extended which you can find on PedalPower Adventures channel. Florida is a nice spot to bike in the winter.
I need to weigh the bike. It's changed a bit since the trip and I didn't weigh it before. I'll take a look at your channel and check out that route. Cheers 👍
This must all be invaluable for anyone looking to do the route themselves. A question for the livestream - how much did you think about grizzlies? I remember you mentioned them in some of your preparation videos, and that you had a sighting or two on the ride, but I just wondered how much their presence affected you.
Hi. I was always thinking about them until Pinedale where you leave Grizzly country. I'm sure I would have wild camped more if they weren't around. I did everything you're supposed to do to avoid a negative encounter but I was always worried about coming around a corner and running into one. Thanks for the question 👍👍
Thank you Matt for the recap and hope I can tune in Friday live.
Which was harder AT or Great Divide
I noticed you didn’t ride with gloves. Didn’t need them for hand padding?
How did the other guys do with the peanut butter roads and their derailers?
Hi. I'll add your questions to the list for the live stream if that's ok. I need to think about the AT vs GDMBR one. It's a great question. It'll be available to watch afterwards if you can't make it. I'll answer here too once it's done. Cheers 👍
I’m ready to go the GDMBT
Excellent. You'll love it 👍👍
Gr8 stuff! Gr8 info!👍👍
Good to hear. Cheers 👍
Thank you 🙏
👍👍 thanks for the support.