I dont think so if his soul leave his body nothing will make him back a heart attack will kill him before his body saves him and make him way better but not immortal + remember the first time he was beaten to death if he didnt barley survive he will not see him anymore not his boost or his role in saving the universe
I saw how the Viltrumites jumped him in episode 3. That was brutal. Most people can't survive getting attacked by one Viltrumite, let alone three. And the crazy thing is that wasn't even his first time surviving a Viltrumite attack. So not only did he survive fighting a Viltrumite once before, he survived getting jumped by three the second time. Allen is clearly built different.
@@Renkencenyes, except I argue that Allen gets more out of his zenkai boost than Sayians do cuz he went from being weaker than your average Viltrumite to straight one shotting them and over powering heavy hitters like omni man
I love how Mark, by the end of the series turns the Viltrum Empire into the version that his father told as fake stories.that his father told as fake stories.
@@estaveler3288i wouldnt say they are conquerers, its said they strive for peace among planets, proved as how it led to the decommissioning of the coalition of planets by making that kind of protection unnecessary
To be fair, the thing that allows so many people to overpower Mark is because Mark ALWAYS holds back. Its the one thing his father noticed in their fight, the fight against the 3 other viltrumites, and everything else. Even after killing others, he generally only goes all out on people like Thragg who deserve it. Otherwise he always holds back or lets himself be beaten or taken advantage of.
No matter where he goes, Allen will always be an alien - since his planet is gone, he's an alien to every world... From a thoughtful comment a long time back - keep up the cool vids!
They’re scientifically advanced but weak physically. Allen is their only conqueror level citizen and he’s a genetic freak literally made to beat Viltrumites. He’s kinda like what Thragg is to Viltrum but to a far greater degree.
For context, when Allen saved Mark from the surface of the Sun, Mark was in there for FAR longer than Allen. Allen was there for probably just a few seconds.
You mean inside the Sun? Basically everyone was fighting at the surface initially. Mark and Thragg went closer and then actually dipped inside. When they dipped inside, they burnt up immediately. Allen had no such damage dealt to him when dipping in
@@khadz0 they were in the core of the sun or sm and emerged, and they started burning up even in the first layer again because their insides are weaker than their outsides, so allen didnt go into the core of the sun, only the first layer, but it wouldve been interesting to see what would happen if allen went into the core
What I think some people forget about the mark, Thaddeus and Omni man feat is that the only way they were able to accomplish that was with the help of space racers gun to pierce through the planet, hell Thaddeus even states that if the core stabilized, they would have died. And true, they were not at full power because of the fight but I don’t think that feat makes each of them small planetary alone, though Allen could defiantly be scaled as planetary still
The calc used is from VSBW, which is mine, and it was OBVIOUSLY accounted for. If it wasn’t, it wouldn’t only be 0.567 zettatons for each, but at least an order or 2 magnitudes higher. They’d be a little below baseline planetary if it wasn’t accounted for, whereas here they’re still much off from that.
If i'm not mistaken viltrumites thanks to their smart atoms also have a zenki boost like ability. Maybe to a lesser extent than Allen, but they do get stronger from surviving near death. They don't have the extreme physical adaptation like Allen does, but obviously when they get stronger, their bodies would become more durable to what hurt them before anyway.
I’m still not sure where this comes from, because I don’t remember it being mentioned in the comics directly, but it may have been confirmed in extras or something. There was the one time Eve successfully made Mark stronger while healing him but that was considered Eve’s ability, not Mark’s. It is true that they will fully heal perfectly from anything that doesn’t outright kill them as long as their heart and brain are intact given time though.
@@DrGandW Well, in the comic book they do use terminology pretty similar to what they say. Happens to Allen they say that viltrumite DNA aggressively self repairs and adapts. This in combination with how the smart atoms work it seems pretty likely that they do get even if minor they do get boosts in power once they heal from damage.
It makes sense to me. Thragg was in Exile and none of the Pure Blood Viltrumites will listen to him. He thought the threat was neutralized and had to step into a leadership role. It doesn't make sense a universe wide manhunt for One person with no followers considering all the other threats. He didn't count on Thragg spawning an army for revenge though.
According to Thragg he could have behaded him by the time allen used the scourge virus and Allen didn't try his luck, even tho thragg changed his mind about using the virus in the first place so you may argue Allen just didn't want to actually use it. Still, i doubt Allen would have risked Oliver's life or the lives of every human on earth if he could take Thragg on and win.
@@nailtoolofamusementHe could have taken Thragg on and won. But he just as likely could have taken Thragg on and lost. He chose to play it safe and not take the risk because he knew if he died, then Thragg would have no rivals to stop him. At least that’s what he thought at the time without knowing how much stronger Mark would become
@@abongilezolanipeterson5588 I do believe the senseless genocide is what stopped Allen, not his status as Thragg's rival which is kinda non-existent in the first place. He was his enemy as head of the coalition, sure, but Allen never chose to face off against Thragg. Even when he was fighting Battle Beast and heavily injured he still asked others to engage, even sacrificed Oliver years later, so rival is not really the word i'd use. And no i don't think Allen could have defeated Thragg honestly considering how he always avoided a direct confrontation but they are on a similar level still, skill and experience is what would have doomed Allen and frankly i think he knew and that's why for how strong he was he still never dared to.
Thank you for the video @KeyIssues. I hope to see a how powerful is invincible video in the future. Ik you put some invincible feats in this video but I hope for his solo video.
I really liked that you related his getting stronger after near death to a saiyans, because I really got some dbs Broly vibes as the video went on. Assuming he learns more proper manners from Whis and Beerus along with developing his powers, I see him kinda like Allen.
If I am not entirely mistaken. The fight with Thragg is very much like with Conquest in the sense that Mark is clearly weaker, but the more tenacious combatant. He is more determined and most importantly in the fight with Thragg, he can handle pain. I could again be mistaken, but I believe there is a quote directly referring to how Thragg is slowed down by the searing heat of the sun as it harms him. Someone like Thragg who's not as used to pain as Mark is would therefore essentially be nerfed. Regarding Allen, it is clear he has insane strength, undoubtedly on grounds to rival Thragg at that point in time, but his durability is in question and also the fact that he is scared shitless by Thraggs mere presence does seem to point to the fact he is probably uncertain at best that he could beat him. Clearly hes showing reluctance to even fight Thragg. End of series, I like to think personally that Mark is either at Thraggs level of power or slightly above. With his crazy drive to fight and tenacity included. Allen has likely stagnated as I doubt there would be any considerable growth for him here, and though their scrap isnt some battle to the death, it seems quite evident that Allen gets decked in what seems to be a pretty low difficulty fight from how Mark just extends his hand. (He is a but roughed up but nothing else). Allen is definitely a powerhouse but I'd like to think he places somewhere between Battle Beast and Thragg at the end of the series. Thraggs fight with Battle Beast already being somewhat skewed, since in fighting BB they were both fighting honorably. Realistically, Thragg could literally have taken BB to space and killed him rather easily (as shown and even referenced) even if they were physically matched in stats.
How do you people who have clearly read the comic all forget the part where robot sends Mark his viltrum busting armor to wear in his fight against Thragg? It practically doubled his power, and even then, he barely won.
The only think I could disagree is saying mark 500 years later is only on thragg lvl or just slightly above when in reality it really is an insane gap, mark in the spam of just a couple of years, like 20 or something not sure, went from being the weakest viltrumite to being able to face thragg on a 1 on 1, viltrumites(mark included) get stronger by aging, the power up of exp mark got just from his fight with thragg already should put him at thragg lvl, after 500 years, even if he did nothing(which he didn't) he would've gotten massively stronger, I don't think I'm exaggerating by saying mark 500 years after timeskip could very much one shot thragg the way this last one did with omni-man
To me Allen has the potential of being the (second)* most powerfull character in the whole universe. I don't know how long the Unopans can live, but looks like there is no limit to how much his body can adapt to be stronger than the thing that defeated him, so with enought time could be stronger than Mark in my opinion. *(The first will be Atom Eve, cause C'mon, Atom Eve it's broken and if wasn't for the reverse plot Armor chip that she has on the brain it could solo the whole comic)
Most invincible comic fans don’t even have Eve top 10 in their tier lists. This is for the sole reason that she can be speedblitzed and is essentially a glass cannon. She can only heal herself when close to death, not if she’s immediately brain dead or pulverized instantly.
There's still Markus and Terra so there is no way Allen is anywhere near second most powerful character in the whole universe. Not to mention the possibility of immortal's children which power levels have yet to be confirmed. Immortal alone although doesn't have the durability of a Viltrumite, he at least has the strength comparable to Omniman, now imagine that but an army. Then there's also battle beast's daugther and the list goes on. So no, I don't think Allen is close to being the 2nd strongest character. He may be one of the strongest but saying that he is the literal strongest without considering Eve's plot armour is very much underestimating other characters in the series.
@@koreankorean5645 I Said that has the *potential* of being the stronger, not that Is the stronger, and Is just my personal opinion. I don't really care that much about the powerscaling of fictional characters. The action Is by far the less interesting thing on Invincible to me.
I would like to see a Black Samson video next. He definitely earned my respect when he rushed Battle Beast to save Mark even though Black Samson did not have his powers.
I'm not disagreeing with ur calculation of Allen's power level but one thing I noticed was that the reason for Allen not barely being damaged, if at all when he entered into the sun compared to mark and thragg was it not because they bought stayed in the sun for probably much longer than Allen on top of the fact they were fighting each other while in it, so that probably is one of the factors why Mark wasn't as damaged as him on top of him becoming more durable due to the scales he developed on his body. Other than that I agree with most of ur video, and also, can u pls do How powerful is invincible How powerful is immortal How powerful is thragg How powerful is battle beast How powerful is Anissa How powerful is DCEU Doomsday How powerful is DCEU black Adam How powerful is MCU captain marvel How powerful is DCEU Shazam
11:38 I wonder whether Mark beat Allen simply because the average Unopan's lifespan might be way shorter than a Viltrumite's, which would mean that Allen's prime has already passed. Even if Unopans could live for hundreds of years, it would still be like having a 30 year old human fight a 90 year old one. Unless, Allen's genetic enhancements also bypasses this shortcoming. Then again, Allen might have conceded just because Mark made a point about not needing the coalition anymore.
I kinda hope they scale back his power just a bit in the show. He can still be stronger than Omni Man, but being able to one shot everyone from the start of the war is a huge plot hole.
Alan and Mark get so strong a the end of the series (Mark is slightly stronger, bloodlusted he'd win) that when compared to dragon ball- if someone with Raditz' power of about 1k focused it all they could destroy a planet- and when you start to talk about characters with levels of over 10k and above, we're talking multiplanetary. Frieza on namek can nuke an entire solar system but he'd had to do it a couple planets at a time, cell could destroy an entire galaxy in one attack, and buu is a universal threat. If I had to place Mark and Alan on the list here I'd put him at Goku's 90K+ Post Gravity training just before arriving on Namek. If Goku could breathe in space at that time, he could eventually destroy a solar system but it'd take much longer than frieza and he'd never be able to destroy our sun unlike frieza.
Believe it or not Frieza could even be universal and early dragon ball characters could possibly be planetary even the characters are pretty busted comparibg to Saiyan saga characters or above is a huge feat
@@Dougaro has nothing to do with being a dragon ball fan. Bloodlusted means that the character is ready to kill by any means neccessary, and that specifically is relevant to his story arc. So STFU and SMD.
Seeing how many of these scenes have been adapted in season 2, and realizing how great the changes have been, I can't wait to see how they will do season 3 to 5 (Yes, we WILL have a 5th season)
Coalition : we need the ultimate viltrumite killer Coalition : *successfully creates one* Also Coalition : "nah nah, send in the C team to fight thragg"
imagine if you where a super powered science experiment your species created to gamble for its survival and you get deemed both their most powerful solder and a failure, some mixed feelings that would cause lol
i really like the invincible universe thats it gruesome and that power scaling isnt extroardinairy like superman whos at universal or beyond invincible has that sweet spot
How can we scale Allen to Thragg? Because when Allen meets Thragg, Thragg isnt too worried. He notes that he could rip off Allens head before he could even react, and Allen is shook up. So, how strong is Thragg?
@@KeyIssuesbut thragg still beat battle beast, even if it was a very CLOSE fight, he still won . And also, if Allen could I've defeated thragg all on his own, why didn't he just do that from the get go. P.S I'm talking about Allen before the bomb assaination attempt.
@@Dripmaster685thragg got bodied by his own minions while allen does not even bleed when he is getting 5v1d by thraggs strongest viltrumites. which thragg lost to.
it's a crime what they did to the final part of the comics changing the art style, i surte hope the series go all the way to the end with the OG art style.
Theory he survived the first attack because he was constantly being beaten by omni man when he visited Earth so he had a small resistant allowing him to survive the attack
I would say Allen is definitely the strongest character, even stronger than Mark, and that what makes him so hard to pin down is that he has a lot if restraint when he fights. He doesn't rage out like a Viltrumite or their hybrids, he's always in control and only uses the exact amount of force necessary. He knew the time of the Coalition was over, he was testing Mark's resolve to finish the job.
WOOOOO HE THICC
I feels like ur narrative make him look like above uh battle beast earlier while it's polar opposite of that
He is! Huge what kind of zenkai do I need to the like that!
JK I like being thin but I wouldn't mind his strength if I could control it lol 😅
He really is big D:
Key, I hope you aren't an actual Jon Jones fan but compared him to Viltrumites since he is such a terrible person.
Imagine Allen gets old and has a heart attack, then recovers and becomes immortal.
Thor be like: so you also beat the shit out of old age?
The strongest cardiovascular system in the infinite corners of the cosmos!!!!!
I dont think so if his soul leave his body nothing will make him back a heart attack will kill him before his body saves him and make him way better but not immortal + remember the first time he was beaten to death if he didnt barley survive he will not see him anymore not his boost or his role in saving the universe
@Sign23 a heart attack doesn't instantly kill you...
@@Sign23i don’t think invincible uses the concept of souls it’s either you’re alive, dying, or dead in invincible.
I saw how the Viltrumites jumped him in episode 3. That was brutal. Most people can't survive getting attacked by one Viltrumite, let alone three. And the crazy thing is that wasn't even his first time surviving a Viltrumite attack. So not only did he survive fighting a Viltrumite once before, he survived getting jumped by three the second time. Allen is clearly built different.
Allen actually gets stronger as he gets heals from massive injuries
@@griffen656 So basically Allen is a Saiyan? Each defeat make em stronger!
@@Renkencenexactly bro
@@Renkencen in practice, it's more like doomsday's adaptation, since Saiyans merely get a raw power boost.
@@Renkencenyes, except I argue that Allen gets more out of his zenkai boost than Sayians do cuz he went from being weaker than your average Viltrumite to straight one shotting them and over powering heavy hitters like omni man
I love how Mark, by the end of the series turns the Viltrum Empire into the version that his father told as fake stories.that his father told as fake stories.
His dad told him to! He did it right!
The best part is they are still conquerers, but instead of using violence like the old viltrum empire, they use peace
where can I read the comic please
@@karterszn readcomiconline
@@estaveler3288i wouldnt say they are conquerers, its said they strive for peace among planets, proved as how it led to the decommissioning of the coalition of planets by making that kind of protection unnecessary
Always found it hilarious that a 2 eyed unopian was considered a failure lol.
Biclops
Well, that was a clear deformation and I'm assuming there were also some mental development issues with him and all the other failed super soilders.
Yeah, like if a human has 4 regular arms, is that a failure?
@@senister14it’s an upgrade
@@aywhd3494 yep.
Allen is just a beast of an alien. *Also sliding Key Issue's Nick in there with him and the likes of Goku was a stroke of genius* 😊
Thank you!
I swear you are deadly happy when he mention goku
The John Jones joke killed me lmao
I spit out my drink. That came out of no where
Jon
Instant like on the video, i grinned so hard
He's secretly a viltrumite. He's to strong
@@pluzzleyt8670I did exactly the same bro and I don't like videos that easily. Immediately started searching for your comment too lol
The best part about the invincible story is the power scaling makes sense to me it’s simple yet overwhelming to see just how insane the characters get
That's because the power scaling is bloated to all hell
To be fair, the thing that allows so many people to overpower Mark is because Mark ALWAYS holds back. Its the one thing his father noticed in their fight, the fight against the 3 other viltrumites, and everything else. Even after killing others, he generally only goes all out on people like Thragg who deserve it. Otherwise he always holds back or lets himself be beaten or taken advantage of.
His human side is so broken as well. He always gets power up if he's mad or when adrenaline rush kicks in which regular viltrumite doesnt have
Bro would rather give up that invincibussy, than win a fight
Mark is still weak. He a half breed. Not 100% vult. A full vult would kill him like how Lucan pushed him down with 1 finger.
@@Dougarohe may as well be full viltrumite cause viltrumite dna overwrites human dna
@@Dougaro Mark could have finished off Thula if he hadn't hesitated. Is she not a 100% pure viltrumite?
No matter where he goes, Allen will always be an alien - since his planet is gone, he's an alien to every world...
From a thoughtful comment a long time back - keep up the cool vids!
Ah yes, Allen the refugee, Allen the hobo
Just like the guy who voices him.
In one sentence: we are very lucky that Allen's race never had the idea of taking over and oppressing other planets
Yet…
They’re scientifically advanced but weak physically. Allen is their only conqueror level citizen and he’s a genetic freak literally made to beat Viltrumites. He’s kinda like what Thragg is to Viltrum but to a far greater degree.
Depends whether Allen can have enough children or whether the program that made him can be made repeatable.
@arfhat89 Yea but all they needed is one like allen and boom babies with his genetics
Unlike Seth Rogans race
the Jon Jones reference 😭 10/10
Bro I was wheezing 😂😂😂
Coked up juiced up viltrimite
That Jon Jones line was diabolical and unexpected. My first time watching one of your videos💀definitely made a fan out of me 4 minutes in
😈
For context, when Allen saved Mark from the surface of the Sun, Mark was in there for FAR longer than Allen. Allen was there for probably just a few seconds.
You mean inside the Sun? Basically everyone was fighting at the surface initially. Mark and Thragg went closer and then actually dipped inside. When they dipped inside, they burnt up immediately. Allen had no such damage dealt to him when dipping in
@@khadz0Allen wasn’t inside the sun as long as they were
@@khadz0 they were in the core of the sun or sm and emerged, and they started burning up even in the first layer again because their insides are weaker than their outsides, so allen didnt go into the core of the sun, only the first layer, but it wouldve been interesting to see what would happen if allen went into the core
@@thenard1664 Would come out stronger
What I think some people forget about the mark, Thaddeus and Omni man feat is that the only way they were able to accomplish that was with the help of space racers gun to pierce through the planet, hell Thaddeus even states that if the core stabilized, they would have died. And true, they were not at full power because of the fight but I don’t think that feat makes each of them small planetary alone, though Allen could defiantly be scaled as planetary still
The calculation accounts for space racer and the destabilization of the planet, so no we didn’t forget.
The calc used is from VSBW, which is mine, and it was OBVIOUSLY accounted for. If it wasn’t, it wouldn’t only be 0.567 zettatons for each, but at least an order or 2 magnitudes higher. They’d be a little below baseline planetary if it wasn’t accounted for, whereas here they’re still much off from that.
If i'm not mistaken viltrumites thanks to their smart atoms also have a zenki boost like ability. Maybe to a lesser extent than Allen, but they do get stronger from surviving near death. They don't have the extreme physical adaptation like Allen does, but obviously when they get stronger, their bodies would become more durable to what hurt them before anyway.
yep
I’m still not sure where this comes from, because I don’t remember it being mentioned in the comics directly, but it may have been confirmed in extras or something. There was the one time Eve successfully made Mark stronger while healing him but that was considered Eve’s ability, not Mark’s. It is true that they will fully heal perfectly from anything that doesn’t outright kill them as long as their heart and brain are intact given time though.
@@DrGandW Well, in the comic book they do use terminology pretty similar to what they say. Happens to Allen they say that viltrumite DNA aggressively self repairs and adapts. This in combination with how the smart atoms work it seems pretty likely that they do get even if minor they do get boosts in power once they heal from damage.
Allen is the only character that’s truly like Goku
Not even. Goku is at a whole different level.
More specifically, he’s a good version of Doomsday.
Ya this is about right @@Neuviletteiudexofmemes
Yeah, they’re both gifted with a broken zenkai boost.
@@TheeGreatZatsbyDifference only is Allen's boost only activates when he was gravely injured or died.
8:11 this reference is even better knowing that Seth Rogen is the VA for both Donkey Kong and Allen.
It kinda seems like they could have just gotten Allen to kill thragg😂
And rename the comics Allen the Alien😂
It makes sense to me. Thragg was in Exile and none of the Pure Blood Viltrumites will listen to him.
He thought the threat was neutralized and had to step into a leadership role. It doesn't make sense a universe wide manhunt for One person with no followers considering all the other threats.
He didn't count on Thragg spawning an army for revenge though.
According to Thragg he could have behaded him by the time allen used the scourge virus and Allen didn't try his luck, even tho thragg changed his mind about using the virus in the first place so you may argue Allen just didn't want to actually use it.
Still, i doubt Allen would have risked Oliver's life or the lives of every human on earth if he could take Thragg on and win.
@@nailtoolofamusementHe could have taken Thragg on and won.
But he just as likely could have taken Thragg on and lost.
He chose to play it safe and not take the risk because he knew if he died, then Thragg would have no rivals to stop him.
At least that’s what he thought at the time without knowing how much stronger Mark would become
@@abongilezolanipeterson5588 I do believe the senseless genocide is what stopped Allen, not his status as Thragg's rival which is kinda non-existent in the first place.
He was his enemy as head of the coalition, sure, but Allen never chose to face off against Thragg. Even when he was fighting Battle Beast and heavily injured he still asked others to engage, even sacrificed Oliver years later, so rival is not really the word i'd use.
And no i don't think Allen could have defeated Thragg honestly considering how he always avoided a direct confrontation but they are on a similar level still, skill and experience is what would have doomed Allen and frankly i think he knew and that's why for how strong he was he still never dared to.
The Jon jones part caught me off guard 😂😂
Best written vid comedy wise. As a big mma fan and practitioner the john jones reference had me rolling
Now I’m excited to see this play out in the show
AND THAT'S WHY HE'S THE GOAT, THE GOOOAAT!!!
Thank you for the video @KeyIssues.
I hope to see a how powerful is invincible video in the future. Ik you put some invincible feats in this video but I hope for his solo video.
I really liked that you related his getting stronger after near death to a saiyans, because I really got some dbs Broly vibes as the video went on. Assuming he learns more proper manners from Whis and Beerus along with developing his powers, I see him kinda like Allen.
5:40 bro Allen's face in the comic strip right there is so silly
If I am not entirely mistaken. The fight with Thragg is very much like with Conquest in the sense that Mark is clearly weaker, but the more tenacious combatant. He is more determined and most importantly in the fight with Thragg, he can handle pain.
I could again be mistaken, but I believe there is a quote directly referring to how Thragg is slowed down by the searing heat of the sun as it harms him. Someone like Thragg who's not as used to pain as Mark is would therefore essentially be nerfed.
Regarding Allen, it is clear he has insane strength, undoubtedly on grounds to rival Thragg at that point in time, but his durability is in question and also the fact that he is scared shitless by Thraggs mere presence does seem to point to the fact he is probably uncertain at best that he could beat him. Clearly hes showing reluctance to even fight Thragg.
End of series, I like to think personally that Mark is either at Thraggs level of power or slightly above. With his crazy drive to fight and tenacity included. Allen has likely stagnated as I doubt there would be any considerable growth for him here, and though their scrap isnt some battle to the death, it seems quite evident that Allen gets decked in what seems to be a pretty low difficulty fight from how Mark just extends his hand. (He is a but roughed up but nothing else).
Allen is definitely a powerhouse but I'd like to think he places somewhere between Battle Beast and Thragg at the end of the series. Thraggs fight with Battle Beast already being somewhat skewed, since in fighting BB they were both fighting honorably. Realistically, Thragg could literally have taken BB to space and killed him rather easily (as shown and even referenced) even if they were physically matched in stats.
How do you people who have clearly read the comic all forget the part where robot sends Mark his viltrum busting armor to wear in his fight against Thragg? It practically doubled his power, and even then, he barely won.
The only think I could disagree is saying mark 500 years later is only on thragg lvl or just slightly above when in reality it really is an insane gap, mark in the spam of just a couple of years, like 20 or something not sure, went from being the weakest viltrumite to being able to face thragg on a 1 on 1, viltrumites(mark included) get stronger by aging, the power up of exp mark got just from his fight with thragg already should put him at thragg lvl, after 500 years, even if he did nothing(which he didn't) he would've gotten massively stronger, I don't think I'm exaggerating by saying mark 500 years after timeskip could very much one shot thragg the way this last one did with omni-man
Who is bb
@@MR_stone69 battle beast
Wow this makes me happy now that I know he’ll come back stronger and be a big component in the show 😁
You could always read the comic
I like how the show is exactly panel to panel
Imagine Zenkai boost along with Eve's powers, at one point he could become the strongest being in the multiverse.
Imo that wouldn't happen nobody can reach marks level.
To me Allen has the potential of being the (second)* most powerfull character in the whole universe. I don't know how long the Unopans can live, but looks like there is no limit to how much his body can adapt to be stronger than the thing that defeated him, so with enought time could be stronger than Mark in my opinion.
*(The first will be Atom Eve, cause C'mon, Atom Eve it's broken and if wasn't for the reverse plot Armor chip that she has on the brain it could solo the whole comic)
Most invincible comic fans don’t even have Eve top 10 in their tier lists. This is for the sole reason that she can be speedblitzed and is essentially a glass cannon.
She can only heal herself when close to death, not if she’s immediately brain dead or pulverized instantly.
There's still Markus and Terra so there is no way Allen is anywhere near second most powerful character in the whole universe. Not to mention the possibility of immortal's children which power levels have yet to be confirmed. Immortal alone although doesn't have the durability of a Viltrumite, he at least has the strength comparable to Omniman, now imagine that but an army. Then there's also battle beast's daugther and the list goes on. So no, I don't think Allen is close to being the 2nd strongest character. He may be one of the strongest but saying that he is the literal strongest without considering Eve's plot armour is very much underestimating other characters in the series.
@@koreankorean5645 I Said that has the *potential* of being the stronger, not that Is the stronger, and Is just my personal opinion. I don't really care that much about the powerscaling of fictional characters. The action Is by far the less interesting thing on Invincible to me.
I don't think so Mark beat him at his peak Allen didn't damage him at all.
@@paperknigth2263atom eve limiter breeks only when she near death she ain't even the second strongest imo
Strong enough to get Zenkai boosts after every time he almost dies.
Love allen! bc of seth rogan i cant imagine him sounding different and i can't wait for more invincible powerscaling!
black samson please do him next he really did his part in season one
I would like to see a Black Samson video next. He definitely earned my respect when he rushed Battle Beast to save Mark even though Black Samson did not have his powers.
@@Gabe_Cross I don’t know why people keep ducking him just wait until I make my superhero comic.😂💯
@@Rawxnama98 I hate to break it to you but in the comics black samson has barely any feats.
@@onalennamoroeng8778 so did shapes smith , but he got a backstory before Black Samson like come on he better not forget, bro I’m gonna be mad
That Jon Jones joke slaps...
Just like Jon Jones.
Star level at least, seeing how much viltrumites grow by age adding up with the timeskip, mark is immensely stronger while alan is relative to mark
the shot of them trying to execute him and the laser bounces of is pure gold
His SMUG face @ 3:43
NEEEEEEEEEDS to be meme'd!
Allen the Alien, the vibe master. Chilling while being able to go-to war with warmongers
Tierlist video would be hype
The MMA references are what made me sub! Love the vid!
My favorite character of the series! I never knew he had this ability!!! Let’s go ATA!
AYO! That Jon Jones joke was out of pocket and I'm here for it!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I'm not disagreeing with ur calculation of Allen's power level but one thing I noticed was that the reason for Allen not barely being damaged, if at all when he entered into the sun compared to mark and thragg was it not because they bought stayed in the sun for probably much longer than Allen on top of the fact they were fighting each other while in it, so that probably is one of the factors why Mark wasn't as damaged as him on top of him becoming more durable due to the scales he developed on his body. Other than that I agree with most of ur video, and also, can u pls do
How powerful is invincible
How powerful is immortal
How powerful is thragg
How powerful is battle beast
How powerful is Anissa
How powerful is DCEU Doomsday
How powerful is DCEU black Adam
How powerful is MCU captain marvel
How powerful is DCEU Shazam
Some of those we will def work on. Thank you for the requests!
0:38 NICE REP!
Allen is a good and friendly Doomsday
Allen basically looks like my black friend who came out of prison
I was mid-bite and spit my Chipotle out on the Jon Jones dig ROFL
That Jon Jones line was wild
Allen the alien is just like a normal chill guy and fights whenever he is threatened
11:38 I wonder whether Mark beat Allen simply because the average Unopan's lifespan might be way shorter than a Viltrumite's, which would mean that Allen's prime has already passed. Even if Unopans could live for hundreds of years, it would still be like having a 30 year old human fight a 90 year old one. Unless, Allen's genetic enhancements also bypasses this shortcoming. Then again, Allen might have conceded just because Mark made a point about not needing the coalition anymore.
what if a smart ragnar appears can talk, think, make plans, then recruited by allen ?
Nolan: how strong are you?
Allen: idk
IDK...STRONG
@@MikeLitty69 😂😂😂
for some reason, this is extremely entertaining.
Allens face when he says very is just perfect with that cheesy grin
Allen protected by the almighty plot armor
Comic Allen is so impossibly built it's great.
This will be fire
It hadn't really clicked for me how strong Alan had become. Wow.
Good job I really like the video
at 9:47 i just want to say that Allen wasn't near the sun as long as Thragg or Mark
Humble Unopan thank you my man
I kinda hope they scale back his power just a bit in the show. He can still be stronger than Omni Man, but being able to one shot everyone from the start of the war is a huge plot hole.
That JJ joke was great.
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You literally just mentioned how Allen got blowed up and evolved from it Ofc the sun barely hurt him CAUSE HIS BODY EVOLVED PAST IT
Great video!
Alan and Mark get so strong a the end of the series (Mark is slightly stronger, bloodlusted he'd win) that when compared to dragon ball- if someone with Raditz' power of about 1k focused it all they could destroy a planet- and when you start to talk about characters with levels of over 10k and above, we're talking multiplanetary.
Frieza on namek can nuke an entire solar system but he'd had to do it a couple planets at a time, cell could destroy an entire galaxy in one attack, and buu is a universal threat.
If I had to place Mark and Alan on the list here I'd put him at Goku's 90K+ Post Gravity training just before arriving on Namek.
If Goku could breathe in space at that time, he could eventually destroy a solar system but it'd take much longer than frieza and he'd never be able to destroy our sun unlike frieza.
Believe it or not Frieza could even be universal and early dragon ball characters could possibly be planetary even the characters are pretty busted comparibg to Saiyan saga characters or above is a huge feat
"bloodlusted" why do you DBZ fans makeup cringe stuff? 😂 like you write like a 11 year old.
@@Dougaro has nothing to do with being a dragon ball fan. Bloodlusted means that the character is ready to kill by any means neccessary, and that specifically is relevant to his story arc.
So STFU and SMD.
Facts
Mark already beat Allen easily at the end of the series
Bro Allen is just a chill guy
The writers sure are talented to write this with one hand #6:34
Seeing how many of these scenes have been adapted in season 2, and realizing how great the changes have been, I can't wait to see how they will do season 3 to 5 (Yes, we WILL have a 5th season)
Bro imagine getting beaten to the point your eye pops and it’s the best thing to happen to you
Yeah the Zenkai boost is super cool and all but I'm really looking forward to seeing him become bros with Nolan in the show.
That Jon Jones joke was elite
That Jon Jones joke earned you a like
3:27 i understood that reference
Nice one
The invincible art is amazing
The Viltrumites were so powerful that the coalition ended up creating a Saiyan to stop them lol
Wtf, when you said to like the video the like button lit up.
The jon jones joke made my day
The Jon Jones reference was on point and will remain legend for me lol I seriously lol'd at that IRL
Nah that Jon Jones line just got u a subscriber😂😭
Coalition : we need the ultimate viltrumite killer
Coalition : *successfully creates one*
Also Coalition : "nah nah, send in the C team to fight thragg"
so, your telling me, allen could one shot desintegrate Thragg anytime he wanted but he didnt bc its funny
imagine if you where a super powered science experiment your species created to gamble for its survival and you get deemed both their most powerful solder and a failure, some mixed feelings that would cause lol
When i first saw Allen i wanted him to be a main character, seeing this I am really happy
i really like the invincible universe thats it gruesome and that power scaling isnt extroardinairy like superman whos at universal or beyond invincible has that sweet spot
How can we scale Allen to Thragg? Because when Allen meets Thragg, Thragg isnt too worried. He notes that he could rip off Allens head before he could even react, and Allen is shook up. So, how strong is Thragg?
Except based on the feats, Thragg couldn’t do that. Allen is stronger than Battle Beast who fought Thragg for a week straight
@@KeyIssuesbut thragg still beat battle beast, even if it was a very CLOSE fight, he still won . And also, if Allen could I've defeated thragg all on his own, why didn't he just do that from the get go. P.S I'm talking about Allen before the bomb assaination attempt.
@@Dripmaster685thragg won because he ripped out battle beast's heart through the self inflicted stomach wound.
@@baonkang5990 but didn't thragg also have a similar wound on his body
@@Dripmaster685thragg got bodied by his own minions while allen does not even bleed when he is getting 5v1d by thraggs strongest viltrumites. which thragg lost to.
Well, no Allen had others who were experimented on, but he was the only one who was spared.
it's a crime what they did to the final part of the comics changing the art style, i surte hope the series go all the way to the end with the OG art style.
You should do the immortal, he seemed to gotten a buff in the show
He's done a full history on Immortal already
Doesn’t change the fact that he is absolutely nothing compared to viltrumites
@@Metruzanca so did allen
@@RonythereditorAllen can lol
Goes from being a Viltrumite ragdoll, to kicking Anissa's butt in one recovery. We saw how she just destroyed Mark easily right before this too.
Theory
he survived the first attack because he was constantly being beaten by omni man when he visited Earth so he had a small resistant allowing him to survive the attack
The jones joke got you a sub 😂
Can you make a tier list for this series
I'd be down for an Allen the Alien spin-off series. If Battle Beast is getting a mini series, so should this Unopan IMO.
That Jon Jones joke was premium!
OMG WE HAVE OURSELVES A ALLEN SUPER FAN BOY
Dude that jon jones reference 😂🤣🤣
I would say Allen is definitely the strongest character, even stronger than Mark, and that what makes him so hard to pin down is that he has a lot if restraint when he fights. He doesn't rage out like a Viltrumite or their hybrids, he's always in control and only uses the exact amount of force necessary. He knew the time of the Coalition was over, he was testing Mark's resolve to finish the job.
GREAT VID ! I would love a techjacket full history!