They could have done this fetch quest anyway they wanted and chose to make it a random spot to attack. If they couldn't make the fetch quest interesting they could have made a different type of quest to locate the Mechanist base. The important part is that it's fun more than anything else.
@@millerrepin4452 there was one random fetch sandwiched between General Atomics, and the Rust Devils satellite base, making the three robobrains that led to the Robco facility.
My biggest problem with Broken Steel is that the main world doesn't scale well with it. The new enemies just demolish everything in the base game, so you can easily wind up with situations like Big Town being completely wiped by a wandering Albino Radscorpion or Sydney being long dead by the time you would reach her. So, in my opinion, it's best to leave Broken Steel uninstalled until you are ready to play it. Sure, you won't get the higher level cap, but the game will feel a bit more balanced.
I just wished New Vegas had that option. It just irks me everytime i play it again. Atleast with fallout 3 you can disable all DLC's until you feel you want to have a go at it. Like operation Anchorage replacing the BOS soldiers right outside of Megaton with outcasts. Just tick the DLC off and they're BOS again. As with New Vegas well either go gunz blazing or setup a stash so you're not curb stomping people with the Thumper. Its the same issue i have with the creation club content of fallout 4. Especially since all modders seem to favor 4-5 prime loot locations for their quests.
I love the Monster Squad reference at 5:30 "Kick him in the nards. WHAT?!? Kick him in the nards. He doesn't have nards. Do IT!!! Wolfman's got NARDS!!!!!"
@@Theegreygaming It was a movie from 1987 that was a horror/comedy featuring all the classic villains. Frankenstein's monster, wolfman, creature from the black lagoon, Dracula, etc. Monsters vs kids movie. I know that after that movie came out, NARDS was a popular curse word, used throughout my school( the movie was very popular ). It was pretty adopted by everyone I knew to get past parental censoring. :)
Love the channel, more 3 videos! The Pitt and Swamp DLC seem so short, broken steel just adds more into the actual wasteland which I like, the water vendors..etc
@@Undivided-X In my robust experiences with Fallout 3, have always felt like Point Lookout was big to traverse, but not really that many interesting dungeons to explore, not the mention that the main quest could probably be finished in an hour.
I remember being really confused why my character was still alive after I sacrificed them to save the wasteland. Also I kept putting the enclave thing in the water so it took a long time for me to see the water caravans 😂
Broken Steel did an excellent job showcasing the difficulty of doing a good deed. Everyone has clean water, that’s great! But that means shipping it over roads, hills, valleys for an organization without the ability. Con men are selling the clean water at ridiculous mark-ups. If you’ve ever seen Avatar, it’s when Uncle Iroh exasperatingly exclaims “AND THEN WHAT?!” That’s Broken Steel
BoS doesn't have to be extinct in FO5 (it will actually depend where and when it takes place) but it would be nice if they take a backseat and are just a small presence like in New Vegas. Though considering the BoS have been major factions in 3, 4, and the tv series, and are a main quest faction in 76 it's very likely they'll play some large role in the game.
@@jcohasset23 doesn't have to be, but it would be nice because if they were gone for good, there would be no more risk of them being the Mary Sue in any future games. I want them really gone forever.
Replayed the Pitt yesterday. What a steaming pile of dog shit. Three characters, one "quest," one scavenge hunt, 15 minutes of actual content and one non-dilemma. Awesome loot though.
For me personally nothing beats Point Lookout. That being said, FO3 's DLCs are some of the best of any game! I'd take Broken Steel over anything FO4 DLC that isn't Far Harbor.
@@queenryder I just went back and did that a few months ago. I was hoping I wasn't just blissfully remembering days past? It was such a relief to find out it was as good as I remembered!
as a president eden crusader i felt the writing really takes a nosedive the more you interact with lions brotherhood. very bland style. i resent them. as for the outcasts the writing is equally bad but at least they hold true to their cause of getting loot at all costs so i can respect them
I have to give the storyline 1 out of 5, because there is no in game option to tell Elder Lyons, right at the start, that he and his BoS are now the Lone Wanderer' Sworn Mortal Enemy, due to his bunch of murderous traitor mutineer deserters of the United States Armed Forces having cold blooded murdered the Last President Of The United States Of America. The sole, in game way which the Lone Wanderer can become the Mortal Enemy to Lyons' BOS is via a Pyrrhic Victory at the very end of the DLC, by setting the missile strike target to be The Pentagon. And as has since been revealed through Fallout 4 and the TV series, such a Pyrrhic Victory is non-canon. Now why does such a lack of choice, Matter? Because in the main game, the Lone Wanderer can find a terminal in the Pentagon with BoS logs detailing the history of the BoS from the last days of The Great War, to in game present. The Lone Wanderer was raised to Believe that they and their fellow Vault 101 residents were the last of the USA. Yet in the main game, on learning of that BoS history, the Lone Wanderer is not permitted to react to, or because of, it. Lyons' BoS are the Mary Sue of the game. And with the opening of this DLC, learning of the cold blooded murder of the Last President Of The United States Of America, the BoS status as Mary Sues is brutally pounded into the game player' skull with all the lack of subtlety of an attack with the oversized fire hydrant wielded by a Super Mutant Behemoth.
In Automatron we don't know the location of the Mechanists base until we decode the robobrains, hence the fetch quests for robobrains.
They could have done this fetch quest anyway they wanted and chose to make it a random spot to attack. If they couldn't make the fetch quest interesting they could have made a different type of quest to locate the Mechanist base. The important part is that it's fun more than anything else.
@@millerrepin4452 there was one random fetch sandwiched between General Atomics, and the Rust Devils satellite base, making the three robobrains that led to the Robco facility.
My heart broke when those bastards killed Liberty Prime.
I was pretty taken aback the first time I played as well.
Oh my gawd they killed liberty prime, Those bastards.
My biggest problem with Broken Steel is that the main world doesn't scale well with it. The new enemies just demolish everything in the base game, so you can easily wind up with situations like Big Town being completely wiped by a wandering Albino Radscorpion or Sydney being long dead by the time you would reach her.
So, in my opinion, it's best to leave Broken Steel uninstalled until you are ready to play it. Sure, you won't get the higher level cap, but the game will feel a bit more balanced.
I just wished New Vegas had that option.
It just irks me everytime i play it again.
Atleast with fallout 3 you can disable all DLC's until you feel you want to have a go at it.
Like operation Anchorage replacing the BOS soldiers right outside of Megaton with outcasts.
Just tick the DLC off and they're BOS again.
As with New Vegas well either go gunz blazing or setup a stash so you're not curb stomping people with the Thumper.
Its the same issue i have with the creation club content of fallout 4.
Especially since all modders seem to favor 4-5 prime loot locations for their quests.
I never knew about all the extra stuff after the main storyline for Broken Steel is completed. Awesome video!
Nice to see some fallout 3 content, its so rare these days!
I love the Monster Squad reference at 5:30 "Kick him in the nards. WHAT?!? Kick him in the nards. He doesn't have nards. Do IT!!! Wolfman's got NARDS!!!!!"
I put a lot of references in my videos... but honestly I have never even heard of monster squad.
@@Theegreygaming It was a movie from 1987 that was a horror/comedy featuring all the classic villains. Frankenstein's monster, wolfman, creature from the black lagoon, Dracula, etc. Monsters vs kids movie. I know that after that movie came out, NARDS was a popular curse word, used throughout my school( the movie was very popular ). It was pretty adopted by everyone I knew to get past parental censoring. :)
@@stormcry8202 and today... it's being used by youtubers to get around community guidelines... yeah that tracks.
Love the channel, more 3 videos!
The Pitt and Swamp DLC seem so short, broken steel just adds more into the actual wasteland which I like, the water vendors..etc
Point Lookout is massive what are you saying
@@Undivided-X In my robust experiences with Fallout 3, have always felt like Point Lookout was big to traverse, but not really that many interesting dungeons to explore, not the mention that the main quest could probably be finished in an hour.
@@CartersRemasters Yeah the main quest is short, but the swamps are pretty sprawling, I enjoyed exploring it a lot.
I never saw Broken Steel in the way of the beginning of the Brotherhood's transition .
I remember being really confused why my character was still alive after I sacrificed them to save the wasteland. Also I kept putting the enclave thing in the water so it took a long time for me to see the water caravans 😂
You missed the part of being able to nuke the BOS on the terminal in Adam’s air force base
Broken Steel did an excellent job showcasing the difficulty of doing a good deed. Everyone has clean water, that’s great! But that means shipping it over roads, hills, valleys for an organization without the ability. Con men are selling the clean water at ridiculous mark-ups.
If you’ve ever seen Avatar, it’s when Uncle Iroh exasperatingly exclaims “AND THEN WHAT?!” That’s Broken Steel
Adams AFB is Andrews AFB irl.
"broken steel is broken steel actually pretty good" - the thumbnail
Reminds me of "star the clone wars wars"
The Adams Air Force Base was my favorite level in that game.
Sad FO4 kept BOS as the Mary Sue of the series. Hoping BOS is extinct in FO5.
They've found a way to shoehorn the BOS in to every game so far, I will never stop at this rate.
@vex8ion196 not hard at all. They just need to decide to do it.
BoS doesn't have to be extinct in FO5 (it will actually depend where and when it takes place) but it would be nice if they take a backseat and are just a small presence like in New Vegas. Though considering the BoS have been major factions in 3, 4, and the tv series, and are a main quest faction in 76 it's very likely they'll play some large role in the game.
@@jcohasset23 doesn't have to be, but it would be nice because if they were gone for good, there would be no more risk of them being the Mary Sue in any future games. I want them really gone forever.
Bethesda can't help themselves, FO5 could take place in Siberia and they'd find a way to include the BoS, the Children of Atom, and the Enclave.
Recently replayed this and yeah they foreshadow where the BOS is headed. It's much more noticeable after playing fallout 4.
When it comes to Emil...
...I can only say "its not that deep, Bro"...
But, nice theorycrafting!
It would be nice if it was a prelude to Fallout 4.
Never played it but I enjoyed your discussion of it. Hopefully it gets a remaster some day.
man that was funny about what you said about the tesla cannon
Honey a new Grey Gaming video just dropped.
You should consider doing concord settlement mod
The Pitt is a great contestant
Hey you should like make a video about everything added in fallout 4 creation club few months ago
Everything about new vegas and its DLCs, I do eish we had a DLC like this for new vegas that added the nearly-finished cut content
Settlement settlement Settlement settlement settlement
I actually really like this dlc
11:40 Todd praising??? Quickly he must have gotten replaced by a synth.
I said it was the first time... nothing to worry about... now where did I leave those fancy lads?
Mid. T
Point Lookout and the Pitt are better, Operation Anchorage and Mothership Zeta were worse.
Yeah, in the order you have them listed is how I'd rank them
Replayed the Pitt yesterday. What a steaming pile of dog shit. Three characters, one "quest," one scavenge hunt, 15 minutes of actual content and one non-dilemma. Awesome loot though.
@@i_am_ergocool location also
For me personally nothing beats Point Lookout. That being said, FO3 's DLCs are some of the best of any game! I'd take Broken Steel over anything FO4 DLC that isn't Far Harbor.
I recently did a Fallout 3 playthrough and hadn't played the point lookout DLC for years, I was actually surprised by how fun it was
@@queenryder I just went back and did that a few months ago. I was hoping I wasn't just blissfully remembering days past? It was such a relief to find out it was as good as I remembered!
I totally thought Adams AFB was a real place too. Sadly it's made up for the game lol
Loosely inspired by Andrews AFB
as a president eden crusader i felt the writing really takes a nosedive the more you interact with lions brotherhood. very bland style. i resent them. as for the outcasts the writing is equally bad but at least they hold true to their cause of getting loot at all costs so i can respect them
I have to give the storyline 1 out of 5, because there is no in game option to tell Elder Lyons, right at the start, that he and his BoS are now the Lone Wanderer' Sworn Mortal Enemy, due to his bunch of murderous traitor mutineer deserters of the United States Armed Forces having cold blooded murdered the Last President Of The United States Of America.
The sole, in game way which the Lone Wanderer can become the Mortal Enemy to Lyons' BOS is via a Pyrrhic Victory at the very end of the DLC, by setting the missile strike target to be The Pentagon. And as has since been revealed through Fallout 4 and the TV series, such a Pyrrhic Victory is non-canon.
Now why does such a lack of choice, Matter?
Because in the main game, the Lone Wanderer can find a terminal in the Pentagon with BoS logs detailing the history of the BoS from the last days of The Great War, to in game present. The Lone Wanderer was raised to Believe that they and their fellow Vault 101 residents were the last of the USA. Yet in the main game, on learning of that BoS history, the Lone Wanderer is not permitted to react to, or because of, it. Lyons' BoS are the Mary Sue of the game. And with the opening of this DLC, learning of the cold blooded murder of the Last President Of The United States Of America, the BoS status as Mary Sues is brutally pounded into the game player' skull with all the lack of subtlety of an attack with the oversized fire hydrant wielded by a Super Mutant Behemoth.
You guys are all forgetting you couldn't join the Enclave in Fallout 3. So much for an RPG.
Fallout games should end after the mq imo