Pokemon Card YouTube is Getting Weird

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    Beyond just collecting Pokemon Cards or playing the TCG lies Pokemon Card Investing - a hobby for some, and a serious business venture for others. Why chase Ultra Rare cards like Umbreon, Charizard, Blastoise and Venusaur when you can make way more money from sealed Booster Boxes and ETBs? Seems like a no brainer, right?
    Well it's not as easy as that. Because unlike stocks and crypto, Pokemon Cards can be reprinted, resupplied and recirculated at any moment - drastically increasing the supply and having huge implications for the demand. Which is exactly what happened to Pokemon 151 - the so-called best Pokemon Card investment of 2023. With a huge reprint of Japanese Pokemon 151 hitting the shelves, 'investors' around the world are taking a hit - and some, way more than others.
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  • @ThePokeOffice
    @ThePokeOffice หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    Hey dude, I'd love to come on your channel and talk about things! I think you made some valid points here, but also some points that aren't entirely accurate. But I'm definitely down for a conversation :)
    Love the channel!

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      perfect, send me a friend request on discord, my handle is okjluv

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      PokeBoxing!!!! You both have to dress up as a Lickitung and then fight to the death!

    • @Robdoespokemon
      @Robdoespokemon หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      If you guys are going to be boxing, I'd like to offer my services as a boxing coach. It won't be boxing advice, per say, but I'll teach you guys how to do it. Anyway, I enjoyed the vid. You're 100% right and 100% wrong. Keep punching.

    • @familyfunflatwithjess7090
      @familyfunflatwithjess7090 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You need to the office is ok

  • @rosettaaraara6633
    @rosettaaraara6633 หลายเดือนก่อน +70

    pokeinvesting videos is over saturated so badly at this point

    • @WeyHighDesigns
      @WeyHighDesigns หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yea that's why everything just keep going up. Investors selling to other investors right? You're right though how many pokemon sets from years past have actually ever gone up in value? Probably a very low % of them. The last era of Sword and Shield are probably still cheep as hell. I do like evolving skies though. Maybe ill go buy some cause its probably so cheep still. This stuff is fun to open but imagine thinking it can go up in value? lol all these investors are probably underwater.

    • @BrownCLM
      @BrownCLM หลายเดือนก่อน

      You should make a video about this topic

    • @WeyHighDesigns
      @WeyHighDesigns หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@monkey39128 lol yes

    • @zl8731
      @zl8731 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@WeyHighDesigns I can’t tell if this is sarcasm or what but evolving skies is not cheap buddy and the reprints are done for it. They might print more in a celebration or anniversary set but evolving skies along with every other sword and shield is only going up from here on out.

    • @TheSnackAttackingSnorlax
      @TheSnackAttackingSnorlax 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was sarcasm bruh… let me clear that up for you lol….

  • @DamaCollectsCards
    @DamaCollectsCards หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    I love Gastly, he's a funny lad.

    • @G0ATMANJAR0
      @G0ATMANJAR0 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      GhaAaAa….. GHaAaAAA!

  • @WoopTCG
    @WoopTCG หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    At the end of the day, 99% of all Pokémon cards/TCG products go up in value over time. It really doesn’t matter what you “invest” in if your end goal is to make money in 5-10 years. Sure some sets out perform others, but it’s quite obvious which of those sets it’ll be. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist tell 151 will out perform sv base. And it surely doesn’t take a 20 minute video to get this point across either 😂 poke investors are actually more in it for the content. The mask their investment knowledge with general hobby knowledge to elongate watch time. Thank you for tuning into my Ted talk

    • @ajithrajaful
      @ajithrajaful 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I agree, thats why someone like Rudy only posts a video like once a month on pokemon cause thats all the updates it really needs. The pokemon investment channels just make weekly vids to make more money so they can put it back into/pay off pokemon boxes. But JLUV's vid is saying that pokemon boxes arent even investable at all lmao. Nostalgia nomics clearly disproved this in his video response to him.

    • @shaneshannon434
      @shaneshannon434 27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ya this guy ending it with calling Pokemon "unpredictable" kinda voided everything he raised prior, as the numbers he chooses to ignore will tell you just how predictable it actually is. I think it just bothers him more that its a silly reality, but still a reality nonetheless.

  • @wolfiek1610
    @wolfiek1610 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    You’re so right. I started watching TH-cam content in 2020 and was happy to see collections. Now it’s all ALL all just investment folks.

    • @cryptomon86
      @cryptomon86 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      can you blame ppl when most pokemon collections are outperforming many markets?

    • @Chirs67
      @Chirs67 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That sounds more like your algorithm, there’s plenty of creators still doing simple opening videos.

  • @LegendofLuke
    @LegendofLuke หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    0:54 shout out to my arm.

  • @NawiPokemon
    @NawiPokemon หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I still haven't opened any 151 packs just because of how crazy it got. I missed the MTO and now I keep missing the drops on amazon and PCJ.
    It's annoying because I want to open them, compared to most people who are buying the stocks out who only want to "invest" or resell

  • @MaiSakurajoestar
    @MaiSakurajoestar หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Honestly, most of these people just aren’t patient enough. The price of your precious set is down? Ok, then wait until it gets back up to a price you’d be ok selling it at. Running out of storage? Try selling some other kind of item or get a storage unit. If your main goal is making money, you also have to be prepared to lose money, the best way to counter that is if you simply wait a couple of years. This will most likely make money - whether that be a $5 profit or a $50000 dollar profit. Just don’t forget, this is a children’s card game, it’s not meant to be that serious, have fun first and foremost and everything else will follow.

  • @diamondhandspokemon5918
    @diamondhandspokemon5918 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I think you made some good points. It's been interesting to see a few other creators not really get what you're talking about.

  • @FlowerCityCards
    @FlowerCityCards หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Which Pokémon investing channel is telling their subscribers to go all-in one one product or “…put it all in black”..?

  • @tayloreh
    @tayloreh หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The South Park prime drink episode reminds me of this. Insider trading, parasocial craziness, talking like ppl are 10 year olds and ppl commenting just for a chance at free cards. Thank you for saying this.

  • @tredici72
    @tredici72 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Life’s a gamble …there will always be winners and losers, how much do you want to win and how much will you lose depends on how much you’re willing to risk.
    I started investing in pokemon after I paid off my properties, prior to that I only had a small collection of vintage cards, and now I’m sitting on a healthy amount of sealed products.
    If it all turns to 💩 tomorrow I’ll only lose what I’ve spent, and nothing more.
    My tip is spend what you can afford to lose, and don’t try catching ships that have already set sail.

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That last part is the bit that's worrying. People buying into Evolving Skies at current prices are taking on way more risk than the guys that bought at retail.

    • @tredici72
      @tredici72 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@monkey39128 …Yes, no matter what price you’re paying there’s always an element of risk involved, the greater the risk is more about whether you can afford that price without impacting your livelihood, because someone can even go broke at retail prices if they’re careless with their money.

  • @Garbodead
    @Garbodead หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your videos are always a breath of fresh air

  • @TheBdog113
    @TheBdog113 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A lot of respect for posting this. Basically every other TH-camr I watch wouldn't dare talk shit about Poke Investing. Can we just go back to collecting and trading cards for fun like when we were kids?

  • @PokemonSteven
    @PokemonSteven หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    BROKE CONVENTION

    • @myname_isblaine
      @myname_isblaine หลายเดือนก่อน

      where do i buy my pokemon steven stock???? can i not find it because its only nfts?

  • @monkey39128
    @monkey39128 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I was expecting a lot worse from what I'd heard about this video. Turns out I agree with most of your concerns. I enjoy speculating in Pokémon but the risks are rarely talked about by these channels. The only one I see consistently talking about risk is PokeOz but he's an anomaly.

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      thank you for the rational response, glad the message of the vid got through. maybe i did a bad job at presenting it

  • @MYSTlC7
    @MYSTlC7 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yea this makes sense, same thing that’s happening in the finance community.
    People make their money on giving advice, not using it. With how financially charged Pokémon cards and collectibles are this all makes sense though.
    I tested market content but didn’t like it. Feels cheap with 0 value for the viewer.

  • @PokeJace
    @PokeJace หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hey mate, I really enjoyed the video and seeing your view on things. It would be amazing to join you in a live stream I can put the kettle on, sit down and just have a good chat. Also could give a different view on things from a UK perspective.
    Big Fan of the channel and keep doing what you doing!

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      what’s ya discord! message me there if you can - okjluv

    • @zacharyking9850
      @zacharyking9850 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This man is offering a polite way to discuss your views. You called him out and won't respond publicly. Come on guy.....

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@zacharyking9850 can you do me a favour? can you look above your comment, read it out loud, record yourself reading it and then send it to okJLUV on Instagram? that way i know 100% that you read it. thanks man

  • @Chirs67
    @Chirs67 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Companies can also always issue more shares, crypto coin can also create more “coins” you’re comparing something tangible to data and numbers. Yes the Pokémon company can run reprints but are they? Especially after rotation?
    It’s not random when it’s all been the same way for the last 25+ years.

  • @TheZeroOfTime
    @TheZeroOfTime 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Thank you for the video!

  • @basesetmew
    @basesetmew หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The great thing about this hobby is the freedom to collect whatever piques your interest. Be it a specific Pokemon, Master Sets or even sealed boxes. Although in my opinion, boxes are meant to be ripped open so you can enjoy the cards inside but I understand the perspective of collectors who prefer to keep them sealed.
    Don't misunderstand me; I am aware that many of my cards will likely appreciate in value over time; it's just the nature of the hobby. But stuff like that really doesn't matter to me since I won't be selling them anyways.

  • @MarketScraper
    @MarketScraper หลายเดือนก่อน

    A company can always issue more shares. To be clear I'm not the one that make the comparison between stocks and pokemon cards. But yeah even with like gold and most other assets the supply keeps growing. Demand is generally more important than additional supply in all these cases.

    • @XingCollectables
      @XingCollectables หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      exactly!!! Companies just selling more stocks or splitting shares is one of the main reasons I cashed out of the stock market. Its 100% more risky than any hard asset investment you can make. Seen $10k worth of stock plummet to 3k in a day because they sold more than half their current cap as extra additional shares for much less than market was at that time. Literally saying F U to investors. You can't compare the 2 at all. It's like comparing stocks to investing in land. They aren't the same and only commonalities are that they both cost money.

    • @MarketScraper
      @MarketScraper หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@XingCollectables definitely, I do think stock exposure is important. Index funds mostly solves this (just an opinion).

  • @jamesgraves9858
    @jamesgraves9858 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    What people don't understand is that the mere demand is driven by speculation. So the initial sales of 151 is driven largely by an investment interest rather than a genuine interest. When the interest in accumulating more than one needs fades there is no real strength in any of these sets. It is only the desire to ACCUMULATE that drives the market. There is enough for everyone but the people want more and more and to hoard it all! Lol People on TH-cam just don't get that. The investment nonsense has to stop.

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The bottom will fall out eventually. Doubt it'll happen soon but it'll be interesting to see what happens in 10-15 years when everyone plans to unload.

    • @GK-lo4yd
      @GK-lo4yd 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      These people will be thieves of their own wallets. They will find out in due time. You want to invest? Go to a broker and invest in companies.

  • @pokemonplayer200
    @pokemonplayer200 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    5:11 it's illegal to give financial advice in the USA w/o being a practicing licensed financial advisor. Financial folk say 'not financial advice' to save their ass in the event that someone with more money than them sues them for losses due to their advice. but back to Pokemon,

  • @RocSandy
    @RocSandy หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    What was that Simpsons meme 💀

    • @goatedpullz
      @goatedpullz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I miss you

    • @RocSandy
      @RocSandy หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@goatedpullz Miss you too uwu

    • @michaelkrynski7793
      @michaelkrynski7793 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤣🤣🤣

  • @the_gengar_master
    @the_gengar_master 26 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Your thinkings a little skewed man. There are reprint windows that's a well acknowledged inherent risk, but Pokemons not gonna just go back and straight up reprint older sets 1:1 because that would damage their branding. They may create newer sets with reprinted old cards but thats been proven in many different TCGs to not really affect the original values much if at all. I believe the latest reprint we received on a set was with Hidden Fates and that was what 3 years after release? So yeah still very modern.

  • @benjaminkappler2255
    @benjaminkappler2255 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think alot of your points paint a pretty narrow picture of why people are speaking to certain cards/events in the market and you assume somewhat nefarious or harmfully selfish motivations from several the content creators you showed as examples. So imo you raise some good points for discussion but overall are misrepresenting the Pokemon Investing Community (which overlaps dramatically with the collecting community, unsurprisingly). Id love to see a conversation between you and PokeOz whos content is genuinely positive, helpful and community conscious. I see the PokeOffice also commented and would like to collaborate. Please do pursue that.
    I would also encourage (and i think the community would appreciate) a broader discussion between you and NostalgiaNomics. He already made a response video to this post so the cross jab sort of video back at video format is already happening and leading to a lesser discussion than could be had if you actually got on a stream together. But in fairness your video was the first shot so i think it all would be better handled moving forward if y'all just had a discussion and didnt publicly question each others motivation/morals while assuming (and if not assuming, heavily implying) malintent.
    Anyways tho I'm looking forward to the hopefully constructive conversation all this should elicit. Keep it coming.

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      appreciate the level headed feedback boss. working on the stream with Nomics and some others, aligning timezones is hard but we’ll get there!!

    • @benjaminkappler2255
      @benjaminkappler2255 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@okJLUV Happy to contribute! And Very much looking forward to it!

  • @Chimeratech8
    @Chimeratech8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'm not an investor but I do think there is at least SOME predictability with prices in terms of longterm investing (5+ years) because prices will always go up once a set is out of rotation and out of print. Definitely right now the price of 151 is hard to predict but in 2-3 years I dont think it will be. Pokemon very rarely if ever reprints sets that have gone out of rotation.
    Sure there was a brief period where random XY or SM sets were put into SwSh era products but those were probably one offs of old stock that they were just trying to get rid of or maybe were used as a last resort with the supply chain issues during the pandemic. We haven't seen anything like that at all in SV products.

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      "Always" is a dangerous word. It most probably will but there's no guarantees.

    • @DegenCollector
      @DegenCollector หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@monkey39128 I think they are like 106/106 on going up after 5 years...booster boxes that is... no there are no guarantees but true data show its safer than most.

    • @Chimeratech8
      @Chimeratech8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@monkey39128 Fair point. But even the most unpopular sets from earlier gens have gone up, albeit a lot less than others. Like even a pack of the hated Steam Siege is going for 2x MSRP these days.

  • @andredegiant3876
    @andredegiant3876 28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m over the whole investing craze bs. They’re shiny paper cards, I buy and own them because I enjoy looking at them. Not as a future retirement fund, not to stash in a closet for decades on end, but to again, ENJOY them. When TH-camrs are opening Base Set Charizards and their reaction is “oh, cool…” they’ve lost the plot, great video man 🤙

  • @kenneth1523
    @kenneth1523 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I think that some TH-camrs like PokeOz believe in what they’re talking about. Repetitive messages like only invest no more than 5% of your total investment portfolio in the ‘fun’ investment (collectable fun), try to never stress about it and it’s all about supply and demand even though Pokemon rules for printing to demand (no trampling over fellow Pokemon shoppers needed). Along with Twice Baked Jake, I think they’ve posted their collections on tracking apps for the public to roast and they’ve done well but it’s not like a gold mine that many investment TH-camrs may be spruiking.

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      PokeOz is one of the only sensible ones.

  • @slayerzerg
    @slayerzerg หลายเดือนก่อน

    yeah it's just like stocks you can't all in on one stock or say if you're in US you have to diversify and add foreign mutual funds to your retirement portfolio. reduces risk. people are going to learn the hard way of course. just remember buy low sell high, going to profit off my english alt arts and buy more japanese alt arts i like for super cheap.

  • @UnknownTrance87
    @UnknownTrance87 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I'm a simple man, I like Japanese booster box's because the quality is unmatchable & amazing. Way better than English trash.

    • @magicainlove
      @magicainlove หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I like it too. I began 2019 with Japanese boxes. I only collect Japanese.

    • @jamesgraves9858
      @jamesgraves9858 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are simple. Boxes

    • @averysargent1216
      @averysargent1216 หลายเดือนก่อน

      English is not trash lol

  • @keddyknows
    @keddyknows หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video!!

  • @GundaniumSkeleton
    @GundaniumSkeleton หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Ppl saying unbreon V was pumped by Rev aren't looking at evolving skies as a whole. All the prices have been going up. I personally love the fact that I can buy Japanese boxes at just about msrp again. I'll enjoy it while it lasts.

    • @antariantariantari
      @antariantariantari หลายเดือนก่อน

      People want to believe the nonsense rather than simple truth. Hence the popularity of conspiracy theories, "pumping", "market manipulation", "scalpers" etc. They want to believe fairytale and act like they're way smarter than kid next block.

    • @pokeflips_
      @pokeflips_ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Evolving skies is goated‼️💯💥

  • @ahpuro
    @ahpuro หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sneaker culture youtube vids: "first time?"

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      lmao pretty much

  • @mtv565
    @mtv565 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    The economy is getting worse, employees are getting retrenched in many companies. So good thing that Pokemon TCG can help us make some money to put food on the table!

    • @GK-lo4yd
      @GK-lo4yd 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Please be sarcastic

    • @mtv565
      @mtv565 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@GK-lo4yd : Nope, I'm serious. You must be a high-salary employee or a millionaire's heir to hate money. Your father giving you money to replace his accompany and love is traumatic. That's why you hate money.

  • @mtv565
    @mtv565 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    SWSH sets are out of rotation, they're not going to reprint them!

  • @mhammer9223
    @mhammer9223 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pokémon releases a set like Temporal Forces that is first set post-rotation, primarily geared towards players, and then investors are scratching their heads on "how do I get collectors to fomo on a set primarily aimed towards players?". As a player the real stonks imo are in figuring out what $1-2 bulk V/Vstar/ex card is going to become meta and 3x-10x in value after becoming meta relevant like entei v did a few months back or dialga v/vstar did recently.

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      this is actually the play, i had to spend 20-25 on iron hands ex because of you. i hope you're happy!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @mhammer9223
      @mhammer9223 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@okJLUV I was really looking forward to playing lugia vstar until iron hands ex turned it into an auto-loss haha

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 หลายเดือนก่อน

      TF is my favourite set in years and I don't play. Shame some people aren't keen on it.

  • @ericbell1179
    @ericbell1179 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This will be interesting. I hope you keep your word and actually debate.

  • @dhuntertodd
    @dhuntertodd หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for this. If anything, the past 4 years laid bare the wild volatility of this whole thing. Also, anyone 'investing' in cardboard has to warehouse and store the product for however many years, in a finished portion of their home or a storage unit; everything has a cost. Always seemed wild to me.

    • @XingCollectables
      @XingCollectables หลายเดือนก่อน

      people who have the money to invest have the money or room to store it.

    • @dhuntertodd
      @dhuntertodd หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@XingCollectables I guess this starts an internet argument, but with all due respect, I have the room to store and the money to invest but we don’t invest in commodities.

  • @MaelthasDivine
    @MaelthasDivine หลายเดือนก่อน

    great video JLUV. its true investment pokemon videos is all i see now, i watch some but i do notice the trend.

  • @Tony_3xl
    @Tony_3xl หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I can't sell a LO Master set with all promos for 1k NZD you know the prices have tanked hard.
    Sealed is the only place investing matters but yeah hard pass.

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      but dude, LO sold out?!

  • @antariantariantari
    @antariantariantari หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Yeah remember when TAG TEAM GX: Tag All Stars was cheap and nobody wanted to buy it? There were so many boxes out there. It was released like 2019, right? Who is gonna buy them in 5 years when there're so many of them, right? LMAO.

    • @toolshed0513
      @toolshed0513 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was looking for this exact comment. The second he said that I was like "yeah, about that..."

    • @cryptomon86
      @cryptomon86 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@toolshed0513 im still glad to see so much fear and fud out here. It makes me feel even more bullish on my sealed .i only started since december and was advised to go heavily into swsh alt arts and booster boxes of fusion strike and LO. i picked them up for under msrp. the only asset I have that has outperformed that is bitcoin.

  • @niklas8578
    @niklas8578 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the market really down? Isn t it kinda like it was before eevee heros? I remember buying sky legends for 3800yen and gg end for 3600yen in 2020. Silver lance for 4000yen in 2022. And now we are back to normal with sets at around 4000yen. Vmax climax for 4500yen...It s just the normal buisness (hype) circle. Having a set thats in print for 2x msrp is still way more than we ever had no? Sure it crashed but there is still a lot of room to fall.

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      in general, the average cost of a card across japan is lower compared to the peak of 2023 (april - june)

  • @AnthonyThaKingOfficial
    @AnthonyThaKingOfficial หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I feel like you don't understand why we're investing in this sir 😅

    • @DegenCollector
      @DegenCollector หลายเดือนก่อน

      seriously... dude is WAY out of his league and just sounds flat out stupid and irresponsible.

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DegenCollector read ur sentence out loud or in front of the mirror lmao

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@DegenCollector i am "stupid and irresponsible" because i've suggested people don't take the advice of youtubers when it comes to investments. OK. you can argue that people shouldn't heed my advice advising that, but 1 of those 2 is guaranteed to save them money. so how exactly am i being irresponsible?

    • @zacharyking9850
      @zacharyking9850 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@okJLUVyou should read this in front of the mirror. Doesn't really make sense. It shows how triggered you were by the comment. You are posting publicly if you didn't realize... Not looking too intelligent with this, little buddy.

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@zacharyking9850 go to bed bro

  • @MushMooon
    @MushMooon หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good job on the 20k sub J-luvin!

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      thank u Mush, can't do it without ya ;D

  • @miller3441
    @miller3441 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Also you have to remember a lot of these influencers are sponsored by the Pokémon company, they get free cards and perks from the company directly so they will shill for the company on certain things. Especially when the stolen alt art cards incident happened many influencers went hard in the paint saying that it didn’t effect pull rates. We all know it did

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  27 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      i can tell you with absolute utmost confidence this is simply not true, it’s a baseless assumption

  • @MrGuitarfreak132
    @MrGuitarfreak132 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean you're right its become overblown and over-talked about. But there is something to sealed booster boxes rising in value over time. You do see it happen over and over again and some sets feel like they are obvious, others are not so obvious. While there may be a ton of 151 printed, there is also a ton of people who love the set and would love to open multiple booster boxes. I've only opened a single box of 151 because the prices have been so high. But now that the prices have dropped, I plan to open more. I think a large chunk of the supply will just get opened and absorbed. I actually do think a set as special and well loved as 151 is a good investment if you have a longterm view (3-10+ years). If you are counting on it making your rich in the next couple of years you will likely be disappointed. But if you sit on a few boxes, it would not surprise me if they slowly go up for the years in value. Seems like a valid investment. And then you can roll that money into other parts of the hobby. Just my $0.02

  • @snackbread
    @snackbread 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very great points made in this video, Evolutions is a great example❤

  • @RipVondy
    @RipVondy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love this video

  • @baztoise
    @baztoise หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have to disagree with you on several of your points @okjluv no one that I'm aware of in the "investing" niche is telling viewers to go all in on any given product. There's a bunch more I disagree with but I'll make a video pointing each out

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      free to disagree mate! i'll keep an eye out for ya vid

  • @luc_ras
    @luc_ras หลายเดือนก่อน

    great vid, love the effort in production quality, keep it up!

  • @deeppocketmonster
    @deeppocketmonster 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I’m not smart enough to create videos about investing in Pokemon 🤣

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  28 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      you’re smarter than you give yourself credit for bro 🙏🏼

    • @renaokawa6199
      @renaokawa6199 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yo even dpm, this is getting bigger then I had thought

  • @i8147
    @i8147 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love ya Jluv

  • @Emperor_Pikachu
    @Emperor_Pikachu หลายเดือนก่อน

    All hail the almighty Julian, he has finally uploaded!!

  • @sirmateuszmarek
    @sirmateuszmarek หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video bro! Such a fresh voice amongst all the speculating videos.

  • @newjones1754
    @newjones1754 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i totally agree. It feels like my feed is pushing me to buy sword and shield boxes or alt arts.
    Because all those poketubers tell me to buy them now before it's to late.
    No worries we don't fomo.

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah the alt arts are easily the most risky purchase right now. They're so common! Any drop in demand could eviscerate that market.

    • @m.f.634
      @m.f.634 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You are going to regret not following that advice, yes, Sword & Shields boxes will go up, after next rotation there will be no box under 200. Do not buy if you do not want, but do not cry later, when you be in a position looking for that box or product and can not buy it anymore, because it is too expensive.

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@m.f.634 Already got stacks of the boxes.

  • @averysargent1216
    @averysargent1216 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In 2020 not only did lots of original pokemon fans return to the hobby but many people trying to take advantage of others and only seeing the product as a means to make financial gain. I enjoy watching trade show videos and such but sometimes I wonder if anybody actually intends to keep their cards as a prized possession or just see it as a way to make money down the road.

  • @joeblume573
    @joeblume573 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    100% agree. Exhausting seeing all the novice tubers talking about collections.

  • @MatchesPeaches
    @MatchesPeaches หลายเดือนก่อน

    So I think you make some good points in this video, but from a very short term view. I agree that while short term investing in Pokémon is random and unpredictable, you can still treat holding sealed product as investment.
    Much like stocks in a way - Pokémon sealed product has a historical trend of growing in value over time. A Booster Box of XY Base set 10 years ago went for $140 MSRP (with some LGS’s selling them for $80-$100) and today they are worth $1200 a box. And that’s not even a popular set. Flash Fire is $3500 a box and that was the set right after.
    I think treating this hobby as a fun card collecting game, but taking a minute to hold some sealed product LONG TERM is the way to go. So maybe that’s the information you were missing in this discussion. Just my two cents.

    • @matthewbenton11
      @matthewbenton11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Who tf is buying those at those prices. Barely anyone. The biggest difference now is that everyone is hoarding boxes thinking those price will hit. And even if they go to 400 a box the liquify just won’t be there to offload that much supply. The boxes will go up but 1) not as much as people believe and 2) all of this is only going to lead to a massive liquidity problem later on or 3) everyone finally says it’s time to unload and the prices go back down anyways because pretty much everyone has the inventory of a small lgs stashed away of swsh booster boxes

    • @MatchesPeaches
      @MatchesPeaches หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matthewbenton11 someone does which is why we have those prices to track. It’s completely logical.

    • @matthewbenton11
      @matthewbenton11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MatchesPeaches you still skipping over the liquidity issue.

    • @MatchesPeaches
      @MatchesPeaches หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@matthewbenton11 can you elaborate?

    • @matthewbenton11
      @matthewbenton11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MatchesPeaches even with 1% of the “hobby” investing in sealed that still an absurd amount of product. So when it comes time to sell it will not be as liquid as people believe. People think oh I’m just going to buy X amount of cases of this and it is going to hit 500 a booster box and I’m going to sell and get my money. It’s most likely going to be 1 booster box sold a month or the market just becomes flooded again and prices tank.

  • @bichirnahum
    @bichirnahum หลายเดือนก่อน

    and now its happening with lost origin, wich a 100% will get a reprint

  • @sinis9243
    @sinis9243 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s funny how there’s so many ppl making these videos about sealed product buying it how your gonna miss out if you don’t get in don’t buy singles meanwhile they’re buying all the singles and by the time the singles are double in price a month later they’re like you all missed out.

  • @PatManForever
    @PatManForever หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Voice of reason 🙌

  • @mitchellalexander1581
    @mitchellalexander1581 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very valid points, and sober thoughts from someone who isnt immersed in the subject matter have inherent value. That said, in a business thats driven by the psychology of a fandom, being a fan, bring immersed and understanding that psychology pays off. And the human behavior leavs a trail of data. The shiny object syndrome is real, but one can tell whats shiny and guess closely or exactly whats next in line

  • @OpossumBud
    @OpossumBud หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Money. That’s the reasoning. Always has been, always will be. Money

    • @monkey39128
      @monkey39128 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Indeed. I was thinking about that when you said you were going to give out your toilet paper drawings. I bet at least one of them ends up on eBay. It's inevitable. 😂

    • @OpossumBud
      @OpossumBud หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@monkey39128 I can’t control what others do, but I can’t charge for my goofy drawings. Nor do I want to

  • @Chillok-he3xf
    @Chillok-he3xf หลายเดือนก่อน

    You are 100% right !!!

  • @danieljohnsz
    @danieljohnsz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just a quick question, how many booster boxes from a few years ago are lower in value than their release price?

    • @neb542
      @neb542 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      The real question is how many Unopened boxes this aussie beta has and how he can even comment anything when this is higher than any number in the comments

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      don't have those numbers on me though i doubt it's any. why do you ask (dw i know why you're asking)

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@neb542 it's a lot but i don't see how that changes anything i said in the video lol. most people who watch this channel know that i bought a lot of boxes to open between 2021-2023, but felt it wasn't fun as it used to be and so left them sealed. if that makes you mad you should probably check yourself

    • @neb542
      @neb542 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@okJLUV And there it is. gif thanks for telling us what we all need to know. Not to mention the atleast 100k in singles that are so evil and bad are worth money. Check yourself out mate

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@neb542 lol where in this video did i say having a collection worth money is bad and evil? check yourself out mate, your ears aren't working.

  • @DarkAK2
    @DarkAK2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    INVEST in OKJLUV in 2024???? (constipated gaping mouth thumbnail or hand on chin thumbnail)

  • @ShinyVert
    @ShinyVert หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    HEY!!
    🎙️ ⬆️

  • @cryptomon86
    @cryptomon86 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    just bc alot of youtube is trending towards investing, but i dont even think thats true. its mostly openings. Either way doesnt mean its bad to invest. If anything it means the opposite that more holders are coming in, real long term buyers with nostalgia.
    Now the part about better places to park your money? I think Alex from Nostalgia destroys your argument to pieces.
    I prefer a well balanced porfolio. I keep gold/silver, crypto, art, some cash always, stocks and collectibles now makes up a nice chunk. Real estate if the opportnity arises.
    The returns have already been pretty unreal just over the past 5 months when i entered esp LO and FS BB
    now irl is it oversaturated?
    go ask 5000 ppl in the real world if they invest in pokemon much less collect.....go ahead i'll wait. Now go ask 20k ppl. How many do you think willl you find that collect much less invest in pokemon.
    were talking english not jp or korean and we are talking about Booster boxes in english. Not tins, or other garbage

  • @BrownCLM
    @BrownCLM หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who are you talking about? Names please

  • @MimikBrew
    @MimikBrew หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’m only 5 minutes in JLuv but this might be my favorite video I’ve ever watched of yours.💪

  • @MagisterMatt
    @MagisterMatt หลายเดือนก่อน

    My advice to investors: make mystery products.
    My advice to collectors: never buy mystery products.

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      lol.

  • @familyfunflatwithjess7090
    @familyfunflatwithjess7090 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hahaha yeah I am keen to get on something..I am setting up for 2mouth pokemon party..I don't like the new pump up..i think rev and ryan and vault do have a plan to pump up there cards to sell and grade .they get cards before us and hit the market before us

  • @vandermeerkaine9053
    @vandermeerkaine9053 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd say most of the folks 'investing' are just enjoying the hobby and have money to burn. I have some stuff sealed put away, but do I view it as a 401k? Hell no.

  • @sabz2847
    @sabz2847 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can we go back to the days where you don't have to sell a kidney to get a card you like 😢 💔

  • @0512Philipp
    @0512Philipp 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great Video! Someone needed to say that. Thanks. Of course everybody is talking about „Don‘t Fomo“ on their investing Channel, what‘s happening next? The viewers are mostly thinking about missing out and have Fomo 😂 classic. I think way to many investing Channels are trying to predict something out of mostly nothing. I love the collecting part and of course I am happy when the card or box is holding or even rising in value. But thats not the main reason. Having fun ripping packs and trying to get my personal chase card. So again for all of you out there, don‘t fomo on Sword and Shield 😉

  • @DegenCollector
    @DegenCollector หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I know of at least 3 "investment bros" that have reached out to you and you haven't responded... you've talked the talk, now walk the walk and have all these bro's on to show you how wrong you are.

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      lil bro u are not part of this do not tell me what to do 🤓

    • @DegenCollector
      @DegenCollector หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@okJLUV some people will never trust data and statistics. I can't help you as this is obviously out of your league. As you whine, we buy.

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DegenCollector happy 4 u or sorry that hapoened

  • @AnthonyThaKingOfficial
    @AnthonyThaKingOfficial หลายเดือนก่อน

    Pokémon is like this Do you like cherry or blue raspberry icees basically the same reason 😅

  • @elvistcg
    @elvistcg หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This was a bad video full of bad takes on your part, but like the investment bros you’re allowed your own opinion

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      elvis, it’s 9am on a Saturday, if you’re gonna call it a bad video and say the takes are bad, the least you could do is explain why

    • @elvistcg
      @elvistcg หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@okJLUV It’s all in the algorithm that a user curates for themselves. A lot of people interact with this hobby from the investing perspective, hence the views these videos get. Some interact with TH-camrs who create decks, some are here for Pokémon go, for rom hacks, etc. There’s room for all of it and there’s bad actors in all of them, so you’re fair in that point, especially regarding shops or bigger eBay sellers pretending to be your friend… in the end it’s up to the user. What they engage with and what they hit the like button for, that is what TH-cam will feed them

    • @elvistcg
      @elvistcg หลายเดือนก่อน

      With that said, good morning and have yourself a great day. No harm meant by my comment. Just opinions back and forth

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@elvistcg fair criticism bro! so a few good takes amongst the bad then ;P the algo definitely does gravitate towards the user, no doubt - which is why echo chambers can be so easy to get caught up in, as well as continuously fueled. and when money is involved in those, there's a lot of potential for things to go wrong for some. which was my point in the vid. enjoy the rest of your weekend king

  • @Dark_ibex
    @Dark_ibex หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Long-time viewer here, been subbed on my alt account for a while and always try to catch the streams. Like you, I love picking up older Japanese cards of my favorite artists for the collection. My Aya Kusube binder is one of my most cherished items.
    I was surprised to see some of my thumbnails and even one of my clips in this video. Feel flattered, I guess lol. I wanted to write this comment because I hope I'm not being grouped with the typical investor bro channels. My channel has always been about collecting first, and recently, I started to talk about the "investing" side simply because I am interested in it and want to help people make better-educated purchases. I never outright tell people to buy something, emphasize not overspending, and reiterate that nobody knows what will happen in the future. For example, I made a video about Masterballs last year that got me quite a bit of negative feedback because I cautioned people not to buy them due to reprints... If only one person didn't overspend on Masterballs because of my video, I feel like I've achieved my goal. I also try to give people information as someone who sees what's happening on the ground in Japan, which most often results in me trying to cool people's FOMO. I even stopped opening the new sets last July when everything was going crazy because I didn't want to feed the hype. I announced that in a video where I talked about hype and FOMO. Nowadays, I feel comfortable publicly discussing prices, opening sets, and showing modern cards because cards and boxes are finally affordable again. Sorry for the long comment, but I just felt like I needed to explain this in hopes that people who see my name in your video would not misunderstand what my content is about. Either way, great video with a lot of important information! Thanks for making it.

  • @familyfunflatwithjess7090
    @familyfunflatwithjess7090 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No trends..graphs mean nothing..it's based on how much you want it

  • @attract_mode_
    @attract_mode_ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I watched them when I need a good laugh, graphs are a bit boring tho.

  • @arieskyz
    @arieskyz หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I want to buy the Japanese 151 for my own collection, but I’m not going to drop $100+ for it. I will however buy the new sets for $40 and under because why not? Japanese booster boxes have better quality cards and are fun to open when you have a guarantee hit.

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      best way to approach it

  • @HarryWest19
    @HarryWest19 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I definitely agree re the businesses, disingenuously creating hype to make a buck. However it only works if people pay for it, how do we better educate people so they realise they are paying overs to buy it on some rips channel

  • @BUEFFES
    @BUEFFES หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Im do happy that the prices are so affordable at the moment. I hope it'll stay like this.

    • @BUEFFES
      @BUEFFES หลายเดือนก่อน

      *so

  • @johnmanpls5577
    @johnmanpls5577 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    investment bros: trust the market, number go up 😎
    *TPC Reprints 151*
    investment bros: NOOOO STOP

  • @Augors
    @Augors หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    If anyone is thinking of making a TH-cam Channel, please showcase your collection or cards that mean a lot to you. We have enough people make silly investment videos. 🙏🏾

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      let me get rich Augors please

    • @Augors
      @Augors หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@okJLUV nah, the future is now, old man!!!!

  • @BurtsPTCG
    @BurtsPTCG หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cards are not just investments :(

  • @kenneth1523
    @kenneth1523 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Your comments about property and its historical data being more solid is interesting, suggesting that this is an asset that one can inadvertently not realise the inherent risks when something only goes up in value. Consider the full history of property in Japan, Germany, the US and many other smart countries, halving and decade(s) of stagnant property prices. The argument is not that property won’t always go up in value, but that many people have been burned by jumping on the property train because of this argument.
    Australia is unique, but as you say, until the train reaches that later station.
    Surely we must be closer to that station given that people are expected to now tip their super into paying off their mortgage just before retirement.
    The argument that you can benefit from the shelter of property as the reason why it will always go up doesn’t explain why if the next day, everyone just agreed that property was double the value, it would be! Yet the intrinsic value has not changed.
    Australia is unique in that economic prosperity is population growth. No need for innovation. Just keep being good at dogging things up from the ground unlike the innovators in Japan, Germany and the US. Certainly, this has to be a train that has stops too, but maybe that doesn’t matter if it’s not in our lifetime.
    Interesting how a main pint you’re raising can be applied to such an elephant around us, namely Australian property.

    • @kenneth1523
      @kenneth1523 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Many significant events permanently changed the price of property at the expense of those buying later getting arguably burned. Women in the workforce means that parents miss seeing their kids as much as both have to go to work. Sure, an example not unique to Australia, but it reveals a not so good reason why the appreciation of property can be hyped by the historical data.

  • @persuasivebarrier2419
    @persuasivebarrier2419 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    3:05 wait, you're scaring me with this "finite amount" with crypto by comparison. are you a crypto bro?

  • @gradelevelcollectibles
    @gradelevelcollectibles หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    JDUMP, I think you're dead wrong! My 87 cases of 151 will be worth AT LEAST 10K each [870K for all] by the end of 2025! Mark my words Auzi man 🧐

    • @MatchesPeaches
      @MatchesPeaches หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Maybe not 2025 but 2035? Thats not too far fetched.

    • @jamesgraves9858
      @jamesgraves9858 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      not long until you join the 1% proud of you king

  • @CatBack94
    @CatBack94 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Investment chanels do be weird. Its always re hashing the same things

  • @tendovibes
    @tendovibes หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello Mr. Jluv

    • @okJLUV
      @okJLUV  หลายเดือนก่อน

      hello tendo

  • @RickRottman
    @RickRottman หลายเดือนก่อน

    After watching this video, the very next video TH-cam autoplayed was a Poké investor bro video. I've watched his stuff before. He treats the TCG market price history like it's a stock market performance report. Collecting cards is not investing. It's a hobby. Until the Poké investing dorks can point to an example of Pokémon cards outperforming the S&P 500, they need to shut their grifting mouths.

  • @DTTCReviews
    @DTTCReviews หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Whenever making money is involved it feels like we've lost the plot... Collect for the fun of it and if you are in a financial situation to "invest" then make the decision yourself... 🤣

  • @Haze-fx7dz
    @Haze-fx7dz หลายเดือนก่อน

    glad to know bro is alive

  • @michaelkrynski7793
    @michaelkrynski7793 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @der_rote_baron2764
    @der_rote_baron2764 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thank you Jluv! There is always a lot of Fomo and pumping going on, but people should stop chasing every hype just for the opportunity of some quick cash. ._.

  • @cameIs
    @cameIs หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    LOL I was waiting for someone to say it was mostly random. I knew I wasn't the only one who thought this.