2003 " Ang Lee makes an action-drama with great CGI for the time. Tells a story with the theme of abusive fathers, box office bomb." 2019 "Hulk takes selfies with kids, doesn't fight Thanos"
Yeah, the feeling the hulk theme gives me is hard to describe. Its almost like a feeling of questioning existence itself if that makes sense. It has an ethereal quality, forboding, like there are things out there that are way beyond your mental grasp. That's honestly the best way I can explain the hulk theme, my favorite super hero theme for sure.
@@TheEPICskwock personally for me I feel a sense of freedom and urge to just do anything, run out, break something well I guess that's how I always felt when I was a child listening to it.
@@BroSefat06 What the theme tells me is not just freedom alone. It's like you are a witness to see the rule of zero the omega of nothing and of everything. From a cellular structure to a galaxy forged from a ripple effect reminding to ourselves how alive we truly are that we are intertwined in the very fabric of reality. Freedom is the ceramic feeling cut from the liveliness of existence. Guided under principles of our limitations never to fully realize the potential of limitless existence beyond what we can grasp of cognitive thought. What that connection can be when we embrace it can be of the most fearful experience just as equal to being of the most euphoric. This is to remind ourselves that we sit in the center of both a heaven and hell-like relationship and the possibilities to the potential of we as mankind can truly develop as our species grows and matures into the parallels unbound. it is equally both beautiful as it is frightening. Yet I believe we still continue to provide it a disservice which is centered around the limited existence that we share and fight over with amongst ourselves.
The way you’re able to edit these retrospectives together really isn’t appreciated as much as it deserves to be, incredible work as always man, terrific job!
This film...I knew when I saw it that people were going to hate it, because I always had that uncanny thing where films I LOVED, critics often didn't, and especially comic book fans, hated. It's just so ambitious, so cutting edge and filled wall to wall to with risks, stellar performances, excellent effects, and the most innovative and shamefully misunderstood and maligned editing of any comic book film ever made. The panel cuts in this film blew me away, I absolutely loved them in theaters. They look exactly like a comic, too freaking cool man. Watch Hulk and then watch Avengers, or even Hulk 2013 or whatever, it's no contest! No other modern superhero film has even a bit of the ambition and storytelling or emotion of this film.
hulk was a glorified mech in this movie, hulk is supposed to be an out of control monster that not even Bruce can control and yet in this movie hulk is basically big green banner. (I know this is 4 years late i’m just now rewatching it and I have some very big green purple short wearing gripes)
I honestly loved this movie even as a kid. In some part it actually scared me (like the mutant dogs), but it never bored me. I adore the part when hulk battle against the military, a perfect way to express how this character should fight in a movie. And don't get me started on the soundtrack, good lord i freaking love danny elfman as a composer, and in this film is not an exception, my favourite part of the ost is when hulk is jumping in the desert.
This film had a fine cast and terrific editing. It's extra depth has led to it aging a lot better than many other superhero films. I always appreciated how they made Bruce survive the gamma blast because of what his father had done to himself before Bruce' conception.
I agree with the movie dealing with deeper issues and using the Hulk as a metaphor for Bruce not dealing with his childhood trauma but I can't say the editing is terrific. It's very very distracting and tries too hard to emulate the comic style and fails. It's just a headache to watch.
Things I liked about this movie as a kid to now: 1. The comic book editing and transitions throughout the movie 2. Sam Elliot as General Ross 3. Hulk Dogs which are a unique villain to the Hulk 4. The movie shows the true powers of the Hulk, like the angrier he gets the stronger he gets and near instant healing. 5. The father son relationship and how the father ends up becoming Absorbing Man from trying to use Bruce's blood for powers 6. Nick MF Nolte 7. Betty Ross is actually hot Fight me Edit: Glad people still remember this cool unique movie
While I’m not a big fan of Ang Lee’s Hulk. I liked it better than the one with Edward Norton. I’ve never been able to get all the way through the movie. It’s unwatchable imo.
Sadly I think Ang Lee's casting of Eric Bana is his worst casting choice. Edward Norton is a much more fitting choice looks-wise when compared to the comics, plus his performance is more engaging and sympathetic as well. That being said, I do think the Ang Lee films surpasses the 2008 one in terms of direction and story, as well as the casting of Betty and General Ross.
I actually thought this movie was really innovative and well made. The comic style editing was very cool and the Hulk scenes were awesome. Plus I really felt his rage in this one.
Because there was actually a reason for his rage in that one. That's the major thing missing from the MCU Hulk IMO. An explanation for his rage, and thus a way to emotionally relate to it. They have a character with D.I.D. and never once bother to explain to us WHY he has D.I.D... it seems like a major hole in his characterization. I guess they just intend to keep trying to distract us with cute little jokes and explosions and hope we won't notice how flawed their development of that character is.
@@bobw1811 They're afraid to cut loose with the character and explore any darker themes because of an insecurity that the character will be the "Debbie downer" among a cast of smiling quippy heroes. It honestly hinders the Hulk to remain apart of these ensembles more than anything as it gives him no depth and he's reduced to a one note nerdy scientist who isn't even on Stark's level of intelligence. He didn't even have a strong presence in Endgame and came off as a complete joke. Even his rematch with Thanos was given to Captain Marvel in the end.
@@NitroNEXT That's true, but cutting loose with the Hulk's darker themes would also require his own solo movie since you don't really have time to do a deep dive into his psychology if he's a supporting character (although even just a brief mention of his troubled childhood wouldn't hurt). But we'll never see that because a solo Hulk movie would mean Disney would have to share a small portion of the box office with a third party distributor (Universal), and lord knows Disney couldn't afford to do that (*sarcasm*). Kidding aside, I don't blame Disney for making the financial decisions they have regarding a Hulk movie. Their job is to maximize profit and the best way to do that is to focus on movies that they can distribute themselves. I get it. I just wish they would be honest about it and stop getting Ruffalo to mislead the fans and falsely throw Universal under the bus whenever the question of a Hulk movie is posed to him. He's constantly painting Universal as some kind of "bad guy" who is actively preventing a Hulk movie from being made...the reality is that Disney and only Disney can decide if a Hulk movie is greenlit. They're making the decision to not make that movie. Nobody else. So either Ruffalo doesn't know how the rights to his own character work, or he's lying and doing spin-control on behalf of Marvel Studios/Disney.
But the problem was that the editing pulled you off because the whole tone of the film was that of a family drama or the aftermath of it.The story was mainly the inevitable explosion of Banner's trauma and the lack of undestanding by others except Betty,while his father was pushing him down to the abyss.It was a very serious story and the editing was very cartoony for such a mature plot. I think it's a great film but the editing was completely inapropriate for it's story.
I honestly think this movie is underrated. I remember going to see it in theaters twice when it came out. I like this interpretation of the Hulk more than I like Mark Ruffalo portrayal.
Facts I always love hulk 2003 I stuck beside this movie for years! Every since this movie came out I was 5 years old when it came out. Every since then I always defend this movie the flaws and the great scenes
@@reborngreatnesss5712 damn, make me feel old lol I was 13 when it came out. But yeah, I still enjoy watching this movie. I would watch it to get hyped before a workout
@@UncomfortableShoes yeah, at least this movie and the incredible Hulk from 2008 tried to do something with the character. I just can't stand what they did with him more recently making him nothing more than just a comedic sidekick relief
I love how this move actually took into account that the Hulk gets bigger and stronger the angrier he gets. And I totally agree with you on the CGI, aside from the bright green skin, the FX hold up to this day. And that Tank scene is hands down one of the best Hulk fights ever put to screen.
One scene always sticks out and impresses me to this day. When Hulk is about to throw the shell at the helicopter and he does this slight hesitation. A very human thing to do.
I love this movie, especially when I was younger. Unlike the MCU, I actually felt afraid and emotional watching this Hulk. I actually felt the horror and danger of the situations. I find this movie way above most comic book movie and I will never understand why people think this movie is inferior to other comic movies. And no, this movie is not boring. It is boring to you. What is boring or not is subjective.
Probably the most underrated comic book movie of all time. I loved it when it came out and it still mostly holds up, aside from the technological limitations in the effects department. I loved Lee's serious take on the material, turning it into a story of damaged adult children. I was so disappointed he never got to make a sequel.
It's a real shame we don't get good comic book movies like this no more the modern ones just rush into everything inside of actually giving people an in-depth look into the character and story
@@virgogaming6488 Norton was responsible for a lot of the rewriting of the film it probably would have turned out better had he just left the script alone an let the writers do their job
Why shouldn't you?It's story was very mature,the cgi decent and the acting pretty good.You can see that Ang Lee acted as an artist and not as a studio's bitch. But the editing was really a turnoff.
I have always absolutely adored this film. Growing up I had an intense obsession with it and would watch it literally almost every day. My father having left at an early age meant I was always very angry and resentful, often lashing out and not understanding why things had happened the way they had. Looking back now I think that is why this film had such an intense hold on me. Bruce Banner was truly the first character I ever related to deeply and I still adore the film to this day. I’m so happy to see it getting reassessed and more appreciated as time goes on. An underrated and truly ambitious film, and one that will stay with me forever.
I will always till the day I die vouch for this movie because this was the first interpretation of the hulk I grew up with as a kid and grown up as an adult I will always remember this as my first Hulk. People have forgotten this version as time went on but I never forgot it was a shock to me how everyone forgot Eric Bana as Bruce Banner and how everyone says oh that movie sucked but they hadn't seen it in almost several years. I've always been fond of this movie because it's not your typical comic book movie it was trying to do something different than no comic book film ever did at that time and tried to dive into the Hulk's mindset with the split personality of banner and Hulk. While the film had its problems and even as a kid I couldn't understand it as time went on I started understanding the movie better and starting to understand it even more now being 19 years of age and still continuing to watch the film I appreciate it even more every time I watch it. This version of The Hulk in my opinion was my favorite because he did everything the Hulk was supposed to do while it wasn't exactly like what we see now it was no doubt back then awesome to see the big Green Goliath hurl a tank across the desert. I never understood the complaints about the CG it was 2003 what were you expecting CGI was still advancing and it's not like what we see now. some of the shots in the film are awesome like Talbott touching the Hulk the Hulk picking up Betty and even the Hulk himself at a couple of close-ups looked very real so honestly I always ignore the CG complains cuz I always look at it as a product of its time. Obviously with all movies it has problems and I think the problem with most people is that they weren't ready for this type of version of a comic book film. And I do agree this movie could have expanded more with the Hulk's capabilities and some of the issues addressed in the video. But honestly for a film that came out in 2003 I always forget it came out in that year because every time I re-watch it I feel like it's recent because if we look at movies like Iron Man or other superhero films and how serious of tone hulk was like that. I kind of wish they could have done a few things better had a little bit more better villains but overall I appreciate the film for what it is and it will always be in my memory and will always be my first-ever Hulk movie I've ever watched as a kid I feel sad that people forget about it but now that people are looking at it and appreciating it just brings a smile to my face. Edit sorry for the long comment that's just how much I liked this movie and remember this is my opinion and if you disagree its cool.
I was 13 when I saw this movie in theaters and I loved it, I am 30 now and I love this movie just as much as I did then. I remember feeling like I was the only one who liked it because so many people disliked it.
Yeah, same. I enjoyed every second in the theater and so I was shocked when no one else I talked to liked it. I got it on DVD and have been defending it as a “guilty pleasure” movie ever since, but I don’t think it is a guilty pleasure. I still think it’s a genuinely great movie.
@@GeahkBurchill facts pure Facts I was like 5 years old when it came out I really genuinely like this movie yes it is a flawed movie but not the worst movie. This movie can Be up there with their CGI or even Better IMO this movie is outstanding performance 🎭. (Edit) After 22 years of my life I buy this movie for my birthday 🥳 to rewatch it after over a decade. I’m proud to buy this movie again.
I was fifteen when this came out and saw it opening weekend with my dad, and I loved it. And I still love it-- I'll always defend it as an underrated hidden gem. And it's still one I pop on every so often to watch. Honestly, it's one of those movies where most people I know in real life seem to like it, whereas all the hate seems concentrated online, which happens a lot. In fact, I didn't know it was so disliked until years after the fact when I was reading about it.
I actually got to meet Ang Lee when Brokeback Mountain was on the festival circuit. I had to ask him about this film. He described the biggest challenge with the Hulk as having too much financial freedom. He seems to work far better under constraint. Ice Storm, Pushing Hands, Brokeback Mountain, all very modest budgets with very confined storytelling that focuses on individuals. That's where he really succeeds.
The transformation scenes rock so much, especially when he loses it in his house. Also love the drama and psychological aspects. Glad this film is getting more respect nowadays
Watched it recently with my missus and she was like: "What the HELL is this? It's actually engaging and interesting." She gets bored of most Marvel films and thinks they're for a young crowd which is fair enough but I was shocked at how much she enjoyed it.
Although it’s a flawed and somewhat dated film, I always found Ang Lee’s Hulk to be the most thoughtful. He managed to infuse a lot of psychological themes in the film no other director has ever fully attempted with a Hulk film. I honestly wish Ang could’ve done a sequel. The way they portray Bruce’s struggle with living with the Hulk actually feels like a more psychological dive into it’s ramifications rather than just the ticking time bomb gimmick in the soft reboot The Incredible Hulk. And although The Avengers version is a fun side character, there’s little room to explore Hulk’s actual struggle. And that’s okay, because the Avengers films aren’t about the Hulk, they feature the Hulk. But this is in my opinion, the only film that really explores the Bruce/Hulk dichotomy. I also absolutely love Danny Elfman’s score for this film. Very unique and interesting style to go in for a comic book film.
It's kind of true actually! With the Exception of the 2012 Avengers film none of the other MCU films delve into how angry Bruce Banner can be and truly is and don't even get me started on Endgame! I don't hate Professor Hulk but OMG Marvel stop making Hulk a Joke! When the rumors of Hulk vs Wolverine started to show up recently I laughed! Why the F### would Bruce even want to fight Logan now?
There are some surreal scenes in the is film. For instance the Hulk heading to space on the fighter jet or the leaping through the desert. A truly underappreciated movie.
I saw this movie when I was 7 and I was so captivated by it. At an early age I loved the family drama that was going on and loved the casting. I rewatched this movie hundreds of times as a kid on DVD. Wish it received a sequel
The reboot could have been considered underappreciated if the so-called brains at Marvel Studios hadn't had the bright idea to butcher it in the editing room, for fear of delivering a superhero movie that's too "Talky" (in other words, underestimating the attention span and intelligence of audiences...kind of insulting IMO). As it is, the cut of the movie that we were left with isn't underappreciated. It deserves its criticisms.
I really appreciate the depth of the film, and I feel its themes have aged better over time. This film is much closer to the tone that Peter David, Bruce Jones, Paul Jenkins and Al Ewing focused on, about the dark side of humanity, and the psychological traumas and conditioning that one struggles with. WHich is what makes the hulk comics great.
An underrated film. I’ve always really liked it. I appreciate what Ang Lee was trying to do. Make what most people think of as a big dumb character into thoughtful character study.
i think the score in my opinion was absolutely perfect it fits so well the suspense and mystery you feel from it is so good and fits so well with the hulk it feels so suspenseful and not just thrown together action heroism theme just for there to be an action hero theme it actually spoke to hulk/banners character and felt so damn good and suspenseful whenever you hear it and you know its about to get very intense when you start to hear the theme its build up is like the hulk building up inside of him ready to be unleashed and it gets louder and more intense the longer it goes which i think is absolutely great for the theme of the hulk
I actually really felt like the soundtrack was super memorable. The main theme was never left my head, but it does help It was the only movie I watched through many of my growing years.
Bana as Banner, Connelly as Betty Ross and Sam Elliot as Gen. Ross is excellent casting. I actually love the CGI considering the time it was made, I just had issues with the story, but other than that it's a damn solid film and a shame most people talk bad about it.
Honestly, people expect too little from a Hulk film these days. It's not all "Hulk Smash!", or "Hulk Is Strongest There Is!" that interest me. Sometimes, a look into the psyche of the other side can also be just as interesting.
@Jerry The Ferret Hulk in the MCU is a joke. A literal joke. All the potential drama is down graded. Most of the "dramatic" part of the Hulk in the MCU is almost always spoken and not shown. I don't feel afraid, sad, or excited when I see the Hulk in the MCU. Though the Edward Norton version was a little more subtle and more intense than the Avengers' version.
I dunno if you have seen Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, which showed Banner letting the Hulk be the dominate personality if he acted like a hero. Personally, I found it very interesting stuff, to do with a side not often focused on, with Banner and the Hulk having deep discussions as to if each of them was going the right thing.
@@lunavioleta001 Remember in The Ultimates comic how they get Hulk to fight the alien invasion? I dare say that scene from The Incredible Hulk was inspired by it to a degree.
I was likely 15 when I saw this in theaters, and I really enjoyed it. Maybe the angsty teen in me appreciated how serious they were making everything, but in the rare instance where I'm in a conversation about Hulk in movies I usually get to try and defend this one. I had also really enjoyed Crouching Tiger so Ang Lee directing it was pretty cool as well
This is a great review for an under appreciated early entry into the super hero genre of films. Thank you for it. The thing I liked best about this film is that (most) of the characters are not played as one-note archetypes. I wouldn't mind seeing this cast in another Ang Lee helmed Hulk film.
This movie honestly wasn’t boring. It’s weird, goofy, the tone’s all over the place, but it’s trying to be more than what comic book movies were at the time, which is admirable.
The score is probably top 5 for marvel movies, it’s amazing what Danny Elfman was capable of doing in a short time. The main theme was my third most listened last year on Spotify. So catchy, I love it.
I recently rewatched this film and I have to say that I still love it. The acting, serious dramatic tone, soundtrack and visual style are all top notch. I have this film on DVD, but i also had the VHS back in the day and the toy Hulk boxing gloves.
Another stellar retrospective! The way I view this film is like a comic one shot. Appreciate it for being the first cinematic approach to the characters and the visuals. Imperfections and all.
19:04 man I always loved that edit right there. Overall I liked how it was edited and its tones & themes. It never bored me, I saw it a bunch of time when my parents got the dvd. Spiderman and this, were my childhood superhero movies; both characters are the reasons why I began practicing parkour
Even Ang Lee himself admitted when he was promoting Life of Pi (fantastic movie, btw) that he should've had more fun with Hulk and not made it so overly serious. In all honesty, though, Oliver is right - repeat viewings of this movie are surprisingly rewarding.
I really love the comic book panel editing style. It made the movie so much fun to watch. The MCU and DC movies are so visually boring, dull, and colorless, it's as if the filmmakers have never seen a comic book before.
They definitely are this movie really did not get the credit deserved when it first came out in 2003 people or crapping all over this movie and saying it was horrible to be honest the MCU and DC movies terrible and they are absolutely boring
My dad grew up with Marvel comics and hulk was one of his favorites, it's one of his favorites in the Marvel films and even as a kid i fairly liked it quite a bit. It has a early 2000s feeling that i love and its nice to watch every now and then. I like the modern films but it seemed alot more simple when superhero films weren't all connected and just self contained
Best iteration of The Hulk ever. Happily, I am ALWAYS in the minority side of popular public opinions (on darn near anything consumable). This film was made when Marvel was serious about bringing these fantastical stories and characters to the big screen, with the intent of making these tales seem plausible. Ang Lee presented a very adult look at The Hulk and revealed the source of his extreme anger is based in Bruce Banner's significantly buried and repressed childhood traumas, growing up under horrible parentage and events. Hulk's rage is triggered by the efforts of the Military Industrial Complex to capture and harness him. The whole thing was a study about the super power of pure anger. Hulk's not just a mindless berserker; he gets triggered alla time. This movie was also done with a style that paid homage to the source of comic book panels. It was long, yes, because it provided plenty of character study and introduction. The Hulk didn't actually show up until nearly the half-way mark. It was a Beauty & The Beast super-hero movie made for an adult audience and the public instead wanted to see/feel a roller-coaster ride. So Marvel and the public agreed to pretend it never happened and moved on with an unofficial and unannounced "reboot" sequel that wasn't a sequel with the Ed Norton movie. Then a horrible thing happened. The Disney Mouse acquired all Marvel properties and have since neutered The Hulk and turned him into a joke and then an evolved joke. They're going to try and correct this one last time with Mark Ruffallo, but the writing will be bad...
Really underrated movie. One of the truest to life versions of the Hulk brought to the big screen. A character study that focuses on the underlying trauma which created the Hulk. I find this movie to be art.
Agreed I just rewatched it yesterday I love the character work I think Jennifer connellys betty Ross and Sam Elliot's general Ross is I think my favourite I love how powerful hulk is in the movie the only thing I don't like is that the hulk is too big hulk doesn't have size changing powers he gets stronger and more powerful as he gets angrier but he didn't get bigger
I was obsessed with this movie. I got Hulk toys and a Hulk encyclopedia that discussed this movie. I had to rewatch it recently to figure out why. It’s just so different from other superhero movies. The editing, music, acting, and tone. I really liked the psychological aspects of the movie. It drew me in and made me want more. It made me a fan of Hulk as a superhero. I love the film and the 2008 movie. I have collected Peter David’s run and Love it. It’s a solid movie.
Honestly I feel like once they put the Hulk in the MCU they completely watered-down the character and made them into a comedy relief instead of him being a powerful force to be reckoned with which is what people want to see out of the character not the comical stuff they were doing with him
4:20 Mark Ruffalo was NOT responsible for Hulk's resurgence in popularity, it was the Avengers vehicle itself that did that. Why do you people insist Ruffalo was the reason? He's totally mediocre and only got blander as time went on. Any actor in that first Avengers film would have received the same praise due to the movie itself and it's ensemble being the first of it's kind.
You keep doing reviews on films that are relevant to me atm lol. This and the Raimi Spider-Man trilogy was my childhood! I rewatched this film back in August and it’s even better than I remember. It is an underrated film.
23:25 Thank you Oliver. Completely agree Jennifer Connelly and Sam Elliot were the film's lifeblood. Excellent performances. Even the actor playing David Banner was great and the dialogue opening the film gave nods to Marvel characters. "There's simply no way to SHIELD against every weaponized agent. But l can make SUPER-IMMUNE systems... by strengthening the human cellular response. "
I've always really loved this film. Is it wonky? Yes. Does it always work? No. But I appreciated how unique and cerebral it was. It felt like a film made by an artist with a clear vision. In a way, it was almost an "art-house superhero film." Yes, I enjoyed the MCU reboot film, and I adore how Mark Ruffalo handles the character now that he's taken over. But this will always be "my" _Hulk_ film.
Would have been much better to have the Hulk like that in Infinity War and End Game, IMHO. They really did get the Hulk's personality right and you were rooting for him in this movie.
This is an amazing retrospective, Oliver. And a pleasing surprise. I wasn't expecting you to cover this one. I, very much like you, felt underwhelmed when I came out of the Cinema after seeing it, back in the day. And, also like you, have come to appreciate the movie more overtime. I think that the great great culprit here, as you point out in the video, is the shade of green they used for the Hulk. It doesn't do him, and the CGI on his character, any favours. Great work, as always.
As much as I enjoy Mark Ruffalo; Eric Bana was *perfect* for this role. I loved this movie as a kid and still love it today. I like when comic book movies can be taken seriously without harsh critics bashing them for being "dark and grim." Hulk 03 was a movie that delt with some pretty serious themes and didn't try to be a comedy like most cb movies.
This was an incredible movie, it was more than nowadays comic book movies are: light hearted comedies tamed down so they're family friendly enough to milk as much money as possible. The movie direction was incredible, the visual transitions, Hulk getting bigger and bigger as he was being hurt, action scenes were tremendous, you could actually feel fear of what could happen when he was losing control. It's a pity it wasn't a commercial success when it launched, and that's probably why big movies today aren't taking risks anymore, they just keep to the formula to get as much money as possible.
I actually prefer this film to Norton's Hulk, and I love Norton as an actor. Whedon really captured the essence of The Hulk best of all. Awesome retrospective, as always.
20:40 I was very young when I was taken to it and have been told and slightly remember wanting to leave before hulk showed up cause of the love story they were telling but I stuck it out and loved all the action remember the family drama being very creepy considering how relatable it could be
Always nice to see someone actually give this movie a fair shake instead of just regurgitating the same copy and paste criticism for one or two things.
This film was shot and / or edited in such a unique way, your Average Joe simply moved on w/o much thought to what they just watched. The ending wasn't the greatest but the film as a whole was quite enjoyable.
2003 " Ang Lee makes an action-drama with great CGI for the time. Tells a story with the theme of abusive fathers, box office bomb."
2019 "Hulk takes selfies with kids, doesn't fight Thanos"
I would prefer David Hayter’s Hulk movie
Fighting Thanos would have been the obvious route
Thankfully Marvel didn't take it
@@NobleRaider2747 right, because why use a character to fight someone they would logically fight, win or not. That just makes so much sense dude🤡
MCU Hulk is pathetic in every way. Great stand up comic I suppose. I hate it.
Hulk was nerfed even more in She Hulk
"The soundtrack for the Hulk isn't memorable"
*Hulk theme lives rent free in my head*
Yeah, the feeling the hulk theme gives me is hard to describe. Its almost like a feeling of questioning existence itself if that makes sense. It has an ethereal quality, forboding, like there are things out there that are way beyond your mental grasp. That's honestly the best way I can explain the hulk theme, my favorite super hero theme for sure.
@@TheEPICskwock personally for me I feel a sense of freedom and urge to just do anything, run out, break something well I guess that's how I always felt when I was a child listening to it.
@@TheEPICskwock Well said, totally feel the same.
@@BroSefat06 What the theme tells me is not just freedom alone. It's like you are a witness to see the rule of zero the omega of nothing and of everything. From a cellular structure to a galaxy forged from a ripple effect reminding to ourselves how alive we truly are that we are intertwined in the very fabric of reality. Freedom is the ceramic feeling cut from the liveliness of existence. Guided under principles of our limitations never to fully realize the potential of limitless existence beyond what we can grasp of cognitive thought. What that connection can be when we embrace it can be of the most fearful experience just as equal to being of the most euphoric. This is to remind ourselves that we sit in the center of both a heaven and hell-like relationship and the possibilities to the potential of we as mankind can truly develop as our species grows and matures into the parallels unbound. it is equally both beautiful as it is frightening. Yet I believe we still continue to provide it a disservice which is centered around the limited existence that we share and fight over with amongst ourselves.
Honestly as a kid I was just bored watching it
The way you’re able to edit these retrospectives together really isn’t appreciated as much as it deserves to be, incredible work as always man, terrific job!
Agreed. He's all around an incredible content creator.
@Mr Zeus They're retrospectives.
Thanks very much!
@@Xayjohns Much appreciated!
@@OliverHarper Appreciate the hard work you do
This movie was ahead of its time. Also the soundtrack to this movie is fantastic
I was obsessed with the Danny elfman score and velvet revolver tune “set me free”, I bought the CD soundtrack the first day 6.17.03
@@Movypro23 me too, I bought the soundtrack and film on 4K blu ray , both the movie in the soundtrack are awesome :)
I agree I honestly feel like people didn't give this movie a chance or the credit it deserves
Eric Bana was probably my favorite hulk for me because I can actually take him seriously and I honestly felt for his Bruce banner
Best Hulk ever. Why? Because Hulk is supposed to be about an uncontrolled anger, rage. And this movie portrayed that the best. BY FAR the best.
Exactly. Especially when he got really mad and grew even bigger.
Respect you sir.
This film...I knew when I saw it that people were going to hate it, because I always had that uncanny thing where films I LOVED, critics often didn't, and especially comic book fans, hated.
It's just so ambitious, so cutting edge and filled wall to wall to with risks, stellar performances, excellent effects, and the most innovative and shamefully misunderstood and maligned editing of any comic book film ever made. The panel cuts in this film blew me away, I absolutely loved them in theaters. They look exactly like a comic, too freaking cool man.
Watch Hulk and then watch Avengers, or even Hulk 2013 or whatever, it's no contest! No other modern superhero film has even a bit of the ambition and storytelling or emotion of this film.
hulk was a glorified mech in this movie, hulk is supposed to be an out of control monster that not even Bruce can control and yet in this movie hulk is basically big green banner. (I know this is 4 years late i’m just now rewatching it and I have some very big green purple short wearing gripes)
I honestly loved this movie even as a kid. In some part it actually scared me (like the mutant dogs), but it never bored me. I adore the part when hulk battle against the military, a perfect way to express how this character should fight in a movie. And don't get me started on the soundtrack, good lord i freaking love danny elfman as a composer, and in this film is not an exception, my favourite part of the ost is when hulk is jumping in the desert.
Yup the dogs were terrifying
I still think of those drums when he's running when I run
This film had a fine cast and terrific editing. It's extra depth has led to it aging a lot better than many other superhero films. I always appreciated how they made Bruce survive the gamma blast because of what his father had done to himself before Bruce' conception.
Well the original comics came to hint that a ton and still do.
I agree with the movie dealing with deeper issues and using the Hulk as a metaphor for Bruce not dealing with his childhood trauma but I can't say the editing is terrific. It's very very distracting and tries too hard to emulate the comic style and fails. It's just a headache to watch.
thought this was a joke at first now im just confused on how this perspective can even exist lol
@@xxrieanrinei4922 Confused and just a tad narrow minded for sure.
@@dangiambrone7350 narrow minded why do you say that, the movie isnt exactly the hardest to judge so theres not much need for open mindedness.
Things I liked about this movie as a kid to now:
1. The comic book editing and transitions throughout the movie
2. Sam Elliot as General Ross
3. Hulk Dogs which are a unique villain to the Hulk
4. The movie shows the true powers of the Hulk, like the angrier he gets the stronger he gets and near instant healing.
5. The father son relationship and how the father ends up becoming Absorbing Man from trying to use Bruce's blood for powers
6. Nick MF Nolte
7. Betty Ross is actually hot
Fight me
Edit: Glad people still remember this cool unique movie
I agree with you, but Liv Tyler Betty Ross is the hottest of all.
@@kangtheconqueror8359Agreed bro. I was thinking the same thing.
Honestly Eric Bana is underrated and Ang Lee's Hulk is my favorite version of the character
I like him too now he did a great job Man
While I’m not a big fan of Ang Lee’s Hulk. I liked it better than the one with Edward Norton. I’ve never been able to get all the way through the movie. It’s unwatchable imo.
@@metalbrainmextrememetalent6810 I think Hulk is better tonally, while The Incredible Hulk is more of a fun action movie. So I like them both.
Sadly I think Ang Lee's casting of Eric Bana is his worst casting choice. Edward Norton is a much more fitting choice looks-wise when compared to the comics, plus his performance is more engaging and sympathetic as well. That being said, I do think the Ang Lee films surpasses the 2008 one in terms of direction and story, as well as the casting of Betty and General Ross.
MizerisMoney Really, crouching tiger hidden dragon, brokeback mountain, and life of pi. You might hate the film, but he is a kickass director.
I actually thought this movie was really innovative and well made. The comic style editing was very cool and the Hulk scenes were awesome.
Plus I really felt his rage in this one.
Because there was actually a reason for his rage in that one. That's the major thing missing from the MCU Hulk IMO. An explanation for his rage, and thus a way to emotionally relate to it. They have a character with D.I.D. and never once bother to explain to us WHY he has D.I.D... it seems like a major hole in his characterization. I guess they just intend to keep trying to distract us with cute little jokes and explosions and hope we won't notice how flawed their development of that character is.
@@bobw1811 True that. He was just "always angry".
@@bobw1811 They're afraid to cut loose with the character and explore any darker themes because of an insecurity that the character will be the "Debbie downer" among a cast of smiling quippy heroes. It honestly hinders the Hulk to remain apart of these ensembles more than anything as it gives him no depth and he's reduced to a one note nerdy scientist who isn't even on Stark's level of intelligence. He didn't even have a strong presence in Endgame and came off as a complete joke. Even his rematch with Thanos was given to Captain Marvel in the end.
@@NitroNEXT That's true, but cutting loose with the Hulk's darker themes would also require his own solo movie since you don't really have time to do a deep dive into his psychology if he's a supporting character (although even just a brief mention of his troubled childhood wouldn't hurt). But we'll never see that because a solo Hulk movie would mean Disney would have to share a small portion of the box office with a third party distributor (Universal), and lord knows Disney couldn't afford to do that (*sarcasm*).
Kidding aside, I don't blame Disney for making the financial decisions they have regarding a Hulk movie. Their job is to maximize profit and the best way to do that is to focus on movies that they can distribute themselves. I get it. I just wish they would be honest about it and stop getting Ruffalo to mislead the fans and falsely throw Universal under the bus whenever the question of a Hulk movie is posed to him. He's constantly painting Universal as some kind of "bad guy" who is actively preventing a Hulk movie from being made...the reality is that Disney and only Disney can decide if a Hulk movie is greenlit. They're making the decision to not make that movie. Nobody else. So either Ruffalo doesn't know how the rights to his own character work, or he's lying and doing spin-control on behalf of Marvel Studios/Disney.
But the problem was that the editing pulled you off because the whole tone of the film was that of a family drama or the aftermath of it.The story was mainly the inevitable explosion of Banner's trauma and the lack of undestanding by others except Betty,while his father was pushing him down to the abyss.It was a very serious story and the editing was very cartoony for such a mature plot.
I think it's a great film but the editing was completely inapropriate for it's story.
You wouldn't like me when I'm Ang Lee.
Yes, I remember that someone tried to say that to Ang Lee and he didn't understand the joke.
@@white-dragon4424 the 90's comedian Stewart Lee has a whole (long) routine about it.
hilarious and original
Boom, boom :)
Oh my God! 😅
I honestly think this movie is underrated. I remember going to see it in theaters twice when it came out. I like this interpretation of the Hulk more than I like Mark Ruffalo portrayal.
@AtomicPickle1 wtf? I don't care about what he likes or dislikes?
I just don't like his portrayal
Facts I always love hulk 2003 I stuck beside this movie for years! Every since this movie came out I was 5 years old when it came out. Every since then I always defend this movie the flaws and the great scenes
@@reborngreatnesss5712 damn, make me feel old lol I was 13 when it came out. But yeah, I still enjoy watching this movie. I would watch it to get hyped before a workout
I agree. I always liked Hulk as unstable and a bit of a wild card.
@@UncomfortableShoes yeah, at least this movie and the incredible Hulk from 2008 tried to do something with the character. I just can't stand what they did with him more recently making him nothing more than just a comedic sidekick relief
I love this Hulk more. Realistic, brutal and dramatic
nough said
I miss the aesthetic of films from the 70s-early 2000s. Movies today look and feel so generic.
HULK (2003) is very underrated.
I actually prefer this hulk to the incredible hulk for the exploration of banners character
Both are much better than The Avengers' Hulk.
Eric and Mark are favorite big-screen Hulks. Ed? Not really
I love how this move actually took into account that the Hulk gets bigger and stronger the angrier he gets.
And I totally agree with you on the CGI, aside from the bright green skin, the FX hold up to this day.
And that Tank scene is hands down one of the best Hulk fights ever put to screen.
One scene always sticks out and impresses me to this day. When Hulk is about to throw the shell at the helicopter and he does this slight hesitation. A very human thing to do.
Hulk in the comics doesn't get bigger he just gets stronger the reason his stronger is just because of different artists drawing him differently
@@isinganddootherthings4616 Heh, I never knew that.
@@isinganddootherthings4616 World breaker hulk in the Heart of a monster does
The father-son relationship stuff in this movie is very affecting, especially the shot of young Sr Banner hugging toddler Bruce.
agreed. even after years of not seeing it, i still remember those scenes
The relationships between the characters are the best parts of the film
Yes that scene makes me tear up everytime! I
I just wish we had a sequel and what of Ang Lee Fully vision it’s still possible to have it. I pray we get it
I love this movie, especially when I was younger. Unlike the MCU, I actually felt afraid and emotional watching this Hulk. I actually felt the horror and danger of the situations. I find this movie way above most comic book movie and I will never understand why people think this movie is inferior to other comic movies. And no, this movie is not boring. It is boring to you. What is boring or not is subjective.
Probably the most underrated comic book movie of all time. I loved it when it came out and it still mostly holds up, aside from the technological limitations in the effects department. I loved Lee's serious take on the material, turning it into a story of damaged adult children. I was so disappointed he never got to make a sequel.
@bcdhifi Particularly since he planned on introducing the gray Hulk, which as a kid was my favorite version.
It's a real shame we don't get good comic book movies like this no more the modern ones just rush into everything inside of actually giving people an in-depth look into the character and story
Sam Elliot was a better General Ross than Willian Hurt.
He was actually scary.
I also like Sam Elliot.
RIP William Hurt.
@@anubusx R.I.P
Woulda *much* rather have had him again than Harrison Ford... Especially considering Red Hulk
Always thought Bana's outing was vastly superior to Norton's.
Cant relate bana just looked constipated online
Norton probably would have done fine in Ang Lee's version as it's more dramatic. His talents were wasted in the film he was in.
@@virgogaming6488 Norton was responsible for a lot of the rewriting of the film it probably would have turned out better had he just left the script alone an let the writers do their job
I like this movie way too much as a kid.
Just like the Hulk himself, this film led me to be confused, angry and eventually outside fighting 3 dogs.
Tbh I love the dog fighting scene
Thanks to to And Lee, I'm always wary of those french poodles, and know they got a real mean streak in them ;-)
Real talk. I had to fight off three dogs from fucking with these two kids walking home a year ago lmaol. No one got bitten thankfully.
Did you beat the 3 dogs?
@@rolph5967 We learned to love.
I like this movie. There, I said it.
XRJ92 lmaaooo 😂😂😂😅
XRJ92 i dont like it but I can say this is the best looking hulk in cinema looks like the one from the comics
You're not alone. And Marvel movies at the time had way more personality
@MizerisMoney Lol. Apparently not. I've got backup in the comments section.
Why shouldn't you?It's story was very mature,the cgi decent and the acting pretty good.You can see that Ang Lee acted as an artist and not as a studio's bitch.
But the editing was really a turnoff.
I have always absolutely adored this film. Growing up I had an intense obsession with it and would watch it literally almost every day. My father having left at an early age meant I was always very angry and resentful, often lashing out and not understanding why things had happened the way they had. Looking back now I think that is why this film had such an intense hold on me. Bruce Banner was truly the first character I ever related to deeply and I still adore the film to this day. I’m so happy to see it getting reassessed and more appreciated as time goes on. An underrated and truly ambitious film, and one that will stay with me forever.
Underrated, beautiful, that scene hiding behind a tree, Ang Lee...
I will always till the day I die vouch for this movie because this was the first interpretation of the hulk I grew up with as a kid and grown up as an adult I will always remember this as my first Hulk. People have forgotten this version as time went on but I never forgot it was a shock to me how everyone forgot Eric Bana as Bruce Banner and how everyone says oh that movie sucked but they hadn't seen it in almost several years. I've always been fond of this movie because it's not your typical comic book movie it was trying to do something different than no comic book film ever did at that time and tried to dive into the Hulk's mindset with the split personality of banner and Hulk. While the film had its problems and even as a kid I couldn't understand it as time went on I started understanding the movie better and starting to understand it even more now being 19 years of age and still continuing to watch the film I appreciate it even more every time I watch it. This version of The Hulk in my opinion was my favorite because he did everything the Hulk was supposed to do while it wasn't exactly like what we see now it was no doubt back then awesome to see the big Green Goliath hurl a tank across the desert. I never understood the complaints about the CG it was 2003 what were you expecting CGI was still advancing and it's not like what we see now. some of the shots in the film are awesome like Talbott touching the Hulk the Hulk picking up Betty and even the Hulk himself at a couple of close-ups looked very real so honestly I always ignore the CG complains cuz I always look at it as a product of its time. Obviously with all movies it has problems and I think the problem with most people is that they weren't ready for this type of version of a comic book film. And I do agree this movie could have expanded more with the Hulk's capabilities and some of the issues addressed in the video. But honestly for a film that came out in 2003 I always forget it came out in that year because every time I re-watch it I feel like it's recent because if we look at movies like Iron Man or other superhero films and how serious of tone hulk was like that. I kind of wish they could have done a few things better had a little bit more better villains but overall I appreciate the film for what it is and it will always be in my memory and will always be my first-ever Hulk movie I've ever watched as a kid I feel sad that people forget about it but now that people are looking at it and appreciating it just brings a smile to my face.
Edit sorry for the long comment that's just how much I liked this movie and remember this is my opinion and if you disagree its cool.
Great comment
I was 13 when I saw this movie in theaters and I loved it, I am 30 now and I love this movie just as much as I did then. I remember feeling like I was the only one who liked it because so many people disliked it.
Yeah, same. I enjoyed every second in the theater and so I was shocked when no one else I talked to liked it. I got it on DVD and have been defending it as a “guilty pleasure” movie ever since, but I don’t think it is a guilty pleasure. I still think it’s a genuinely great movie.
@@GeahkBurchill facts pure Facts I was like 5 years old when it came out I really genuinely like this movie yes it is a flawed movie but not the worst movie. This movie can Be up there with their CGI or even Better IMO this movie is outstanding performance 🎭.
(Edit) After 22 years of my life I buy this movie for my birthday 🥳 to rewatch it after over a decade. I’m proud to buy this movie again.
I was fifteen when this came out and saw it opening weekend with my dad, and I loved it. And I still love it-- I'll always defend it as an underrated hidden gem. And it's still one I pop on every so often to watch.
Honestly, it's one of those movies where most people I know in real life seem to like it, whereas all the hate seems concentrated online, which happens a lot. In fact, I didn't know it was so disliked until years after the fact when I was reading about it.
I was 9 when this came out. I had seen Spider-Man the year before but completely missed out on this and Daredevil.
I actually got to meet Ang Lee when Brokeback Mountain was on the festival circuit. I had to ask him about this film. He described the biggest challenge with the Hulk as having too much financial freedom. He seems to work far better under constraint. Ice Storm, Pushing Hands, Brokeback Mountain, all very modest budgets with very confined storytelling that focuses on individuals. That's where he really succeeds.
The transformation scenes rock so much, especially when he loses it in his house.
Also love the drama and psychological aspects.
Glad this film is getting more respect nowadays
This is still my favorite Hulk movie.
Watched it recently with my missus and she was like: "What the HELL is this? It's actually engaging and interesting." She gets bored of most Marvel films and thinks they're for a young crowd which is fair enough but I was shocked at how much she enjoyed it.
Lusting after eric methinks
@@johnsmith-wx5fb not
When I have kids I will definitely let them watch this and be proud of it.
Although it’s a flawed and somewhat dated film, I always found Ang Lee’s Hulk to be the most thoughtful. He managed to infuse a lot of psychological themes in the film no other director has ever fully attempted with a Hulk film. I honestly wish Ang could’ve done a sequel. The way they portray Bruce’s struggle with living with the Hulk actually feels like a more psychological dive into it’s ramifications rather than just the ticking time bomb gimmick in the soft reboot The Incredible Hulk. And although The Avengers version is a fun side character, there’s little room to explore Hulk’s actual struggle. And that’s okay, because the Avengers films aren’t about the Hulk, they feature the Hulk. But this is in my opinion, the only film that really explores the Bruce/Hulk dichotomy. I also absolutely love Danny Elfman’s score for this film. Very unique and interesting style to go in for a comic book film.
The most realistic part of this movie is that hulk loses his pants by the end of the dog battle
@Limau Purut her giant of a Lannister.
@Limau Purut lol his giant hulk Junk 😂
Eric Bana was a much better Bruce Banner than Edward Norton and I actually prefer him to Mark Ruffalo.
It's kind of true actually! With the Exception of the 2012 Avengers film none of the other MCU films delve into how angry Bruce Banner can be and truly is and don't even get me started on Endgame! I don't hate Professor Hulk but OMG Marvel stop making Hulk a Joke! When the rumors of Hulk vs Wolverine started to show up recently I laughed! Why the F### would Bruce even want to fight Logan now?
@@portiz6283 Hulk 181 in 1970's was first appearance of Wolverine and they fought in Canadian wilderness
@@gameboypunk660 I know man but why would Banner want to fight Logan in The Marvel Cinematic Universe as of right now?
Ruffalo is awful as Banner. I think its the worst casting in the MCU
Ruffalo is a bum only selected so the attention is on DowneyJr and Evans
There are some surreal scenes in the is film. For instance the Hulk heading to space on the fighter jet or the leaping through the desert. A truly underappreciated movie.
I loved/love this movie, I thought the way it was shot, directed, cinematography was so creative.
This film is more appreciated when you realize how formulaic the mcu movies are
I actually love this version of Betty and General Ross. I mean, Sam Elliot is such a big personality, only he could go toe to toe with the Hulk.
I saw this movie when I was 7 and I was so captivated by it. At an early age I loved the family drama that was going on and loved the casting. I rewatched this movie hundreds of times as a kid on DVD. Wish it received a sequel
Ross: We'll just have to prepare for the worst.
Me: A sequel.
Marvel: An underappreciated reboot.
Me: That too.
The reboot could have been considered underappreciated if the so-called brains at Marvel Studios hadn't had the bright idea to butcher it in the editing room, for fear of delivering a superhero movie that's too "Talky" (in other words, underestimating the attention span and intelligence of audiences...kind of insulting IMO). As it is, the cut of the movie that we were left with isn't underappreciated. It deserves its criticisms.
My favourite hulk movie. Epic scenes and beautifully crafted. Thanks for the upload.
I really appreciate the depth of the film, and I feel its themes have aged better over time. This film is much closer to the tone that Peter David, Bruce Jones, Paul Jenkins and Al Ewing focused on, about the dark side of humanity, and the psychological traumas and conditioning that one struggles with. WHich is what makes the hulk comics great.
I always loved this Hulk version, glad to see your retrospective on it.
An underrated film. I’ve always really liked it. I appreciate what Ang Lee was trying to do. Make what most people think of as a big dumb character into thoughtful character study.
Such an underrated movie. Still best movie version of Hulk to this day.
i think the score in my opinion was absolutely perfect it fits so well the suspense and mystery you feel from it is so good and fits so well with the hulk it feels so suspenseful and not just thrown together action heroism theme just for there to be an action hero theme it actually spoke to hulk/banners character and felt so damn good and suspenseful whenever you hear it and you know its about to get very intense when you start to hear the theme its build up is like the hulk building up inside of him ready to be unleashed and it gets louder and more intense the longer it goes which i think is absolutely great for the theme of the hulk
I actually really felt like the soundtrack was super memorable. The main theme was never left my head, but it does help It was the only movie I watched through many of my growing years.
Thanks, Oliver.
We really appreciate consistent retrospectives.
Keep 'em coming! :)
Talbot getting his arse kicked is ma favourite part
Wait, one of my favorite reviewers, reviewing one of my favorite non-MCU movies? I'm in!
This channel deserves a million subs. It's so well researched and so well delivered.
Thanks very much Brandon!
Bana as Banner, Connelly as Betty Ross and Sam Elliot as Gen. Ross is excellent casting.
I actually love the CGI considering the time it was made, I just had issues with the story, but other than that it's a damn solid film and a shame most people talk bad about it.
I always loved the score, underrated
My favorite track is "Making Me Angry".
The track when Talbot came into Bruce's house, Bruce hulked out and Hulk pumbled his ass in the streets.
Honestly, people expect too little from a Hulk film these days. It's not all "Hulk Smash!", or "Hulk Is Strongest There Is!" that interest me. Sometimes, a look into the psyche of the other side can also be just as interesting.
@Jerry The Ferret Hulk in the MCU is a joke. A literal joke. All the potential drama is down graded. Most of the "dramatic" part of the Hulk in the MCU is almost always spoken and not shown. I don't feel afraid, sad, or excited when I see the Hulk in the MCU. Though the Edward Norton version was a little more subtle and more intense than the Avengers' version.
the reason he has so many incarnations to begin with, stemming from his childhood problem which this same movie peeked at.
I dunno if you have seen Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, which showed Banner letting the Hulk be the dominate personality if he acted like a hero. Personally, I found it very interesting stuff, to do with a side not often focused on, with Banner and the Hulk having deep discussions as to if each of them was going the right thing.
@@caileanthomson1286 I like the Ultimate Avengers' version. That Hulk was actually scary.
@@lunavioleta001 Remember in The Ultimates comic how they get Hulk to fight the alien invasion? I dare say that scene from The Incredible Hulk was inspired by it to a degree.
I was likely 15 when I saw this in theaters, and I really enjoyed it. Maybe the angsty teen in me appreciated how serious they were making everything, but in the rare instance where I'm in a conversation about Hulk in movies I usually get to try and defend this one. I had also really enjoyed Crouching Tiger so Ang Lee directing it was pretty cool as well
Underrated film. Much better than The Incredible Hulk despite having outdated CGI.
This is a great review for an under appreciated early entry into the super hero genre of films. Thank you for it. The thing I liked best about this film is that (most) of the characters are not played as one-note archetypes. I wouldn't mind seeing this cast in another Ang Lee helmed Hulk film.
Would be great to see you do a retrospective on 2001: A Space Odyssey
I just rewatched this last night. One of my favorite films. Yes, that's a good idea.
That's a great suggestion... I'd be down for a retrospective on Kubrick's entire filmography, actually.
agreed
@@MisterFugginRomero Barry Lyndon would be my personal highlight!
No a bad idea
This movie honestly wasn’t boring. It’s weird, goofy, the tone’s all over the place, but it’s trying to be more than what comic book movies were at the time, which is admirable.
The score is probably top 5 for marvel movies, it’s amazing what Danny Elfman was capable of doing in a short time. The main theme was my third most listened last year on Spotify. So catchy, I love it.
I've always hoped you'd cover this one day.
WOLFPACK LEADER I thought he already did
Same.
I recently rewatched this film and I have to say that I still love it. The acting, serious dramatic tone, soundtrack and visual style are all top notch.
I have this film on DVD, but i also had the VHS back in the day and the toy Hulk boxing gloves.
Another stellar retrospective! The way I view this film is like a comic one shot. Appreciate it for being the first cinematic approach to the characters and the visuals. Imperfections and all.
I love that there's no difference between how Oliver says Bana and Banner
19:04 man I always loved that edit right there.
Overall I liked how it was edited and its tones & themes. It never bored me, I saw it a bunch of time when my parents got the dvd.
Spiderman and this, were my childhood superhero movies; both characters are the reasons why I began practicing parkour
Even Ang Lee himself admitted when he was promoting Life of Pi (fantastic movie, btw) that he should've had more fun with Hulk and not made it so overly serious. In all honesty, though, Oliver is right - repeat viewings of this movie are surprisingly rewarding.
I really love the comic book panel editing style. It made the movie so much fun to watch. The MCU and DC movies are so visually boring, dull, and colorless, it's as if the filmmakers have never seen a comic book before.
They definitely are this movie really did not get the credit deserved when it first came out in 2003 people or crapping all over this movie and saying it was horrible to be honest the MCU and DC movies terrible and they are absolutely boring
I loved how they showed that the angrier and more frustrated Hulk got, the bigger and stronger he became
I've seen this movie more than 7 times. It's definitely one of my most watched movies. There's just something about it that I love.
My dad grew up with Marvel comics and hulk was one of his favorites, it's one of his favorites in the Marvel films and even as a kid i fairly liked it quite a bit. It has a early 2000s feeling that i love and its nice to watch every now and then. I like the modern films but it seemed alot more simple when superhero films weren't all connected and just self contained
Best iteration of The Hulk ever. Happily, I am ALWAYS in the minority side of popular public opinions (on darn near anything consumable). This film was made when Marvel was serious about bringing these fantastical stories and characters to the big screen, with the intent of making these tales seem plausible. Ang Lee presented a very adult look at The Hulk and revealed the source of his extreme anger is based in Bruce Banner's significantly buried and repressed childhood traumas, growing up under horrible parentage and events. Hulk's rage is triggered by the efforts of the Military Industrial Complex to capture and harness him. The whole thing was a study about the super power of pure anger. Hulk's not just a mindless berserker; he gets triggered alla time. This movie was also done with a style that paid homage to the source of comic book panels. It was long, yes, because it provided plenty of character study and introduction. The Hulk didn't actually show up until nearly the half-way mark. It was a Beauty & The Beast super-hero movie made for an adult audience and the public instead wanted to see/feel a roller-coaster ride. So Marvel and the public agreed to pretend it never happened and moved on with an unofficial and unannounced "reboot" sequel that wasn't a sequel with the Ed Norton movie. Then a horrible thing happened. The Disney Mouse acquired all Marvel properties and have since neutered The Hulk and turned him into a joke and then an evolved joke. They're going to try and correct this one last time with Mark Ruffallo, but the writing will be bad...
Really underrated movie. One of the truest to life versions of the Hulk brought to the big screen. A character study that focuses on the underlying trauma which created the Hulk. I find this movie to be art.
Ive enjoyed this movie more now than I did back in 2003.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing...
Agreed I just rewatched it yesterday I love the character work I think Jennifer connellys betty Ross and Sam Elliot's general Ross is I think my favourite I love how powerful hulk is in the movie the only thing I don't like is that the hulk is too big hulk doesn't have size changing powers he gets stronger and more powerful as he gets angrier but he didn't get bigger
I was obsessed with this movie. I got Hulk toys and a Hulk encyclopedia that discussed this movie. I had to rewatch it recently to figure out why.
It’s just so different from other superhero movies. The editing, music, acting, and tone. I really liked the psychological aspects of the movie. It drew me in and made me want more.
It made me a fan of Hulk as a superhero. I love the film and the 2008 movie. I have collected Peter David’s run and Love it. It’s a solid movie.
I loved this movie. I don’t need any damned MCU-style film.
Honestly I feel like once they put the Hulk in the MCU they completely watered-down the character and made them into a comedy relief instead of him being a powerful force to be reckoned with which is what people want to see out of the character not the comical stuff they were doing with him
I agree they turned him into a joke.
14:35 Hulk is supposed to be a totally different character. He absolutely hates it when people call him Bruce Banner
You better watch that temper of yours
4:20 Mark Ruffalo was NOT responsible for Hulk's resurgence in popularity, it was the Avengers vehicle itself that did that. Why do you people insist Ruffalo was the reason? He's totally mediocre and only got blander as time went on. Any actor in that first Avengers film would have received the same praise due to the movie itself and it's ensemble being the first of it's kind.
You keep doing reviews on films that are relevant to me atm lol. This and the Raimi Spider-Man trilogy was my childhood! I rewatched this film back in August and it’s even better than I remember. It is an underrated film.
23:25 Thank you Oliver. Completely agree Jennifer Connelly and Sam Elliot were the film's lifeblood. Excellent performances. Even the actor playing David Banner was great and the dialogue opening the film gave nods to Marvel characters.
"There's simply no way to SHIELD
against every weaponized agent.
But l can make
SUPER-IMMUNE systems...
by strengthening
the human cellular response.
"
I've always really loved this film. Is it wonky? Yes. Does it always work? No. But I appreciated how unique and cerebral it was. It felt like a film made by an artist with a clear vision. In a way, it was almost an "art-house superhero film."
Yes, I enjoyed the MCU reboot film, and I adore how Mark Ruffalo handles the character now that he's taken over. But this will always be "my" _Hulk_ film.
This films lasting legacy are those damn Hulk Hands lol. So damn iconic
The opening score is one of my absolute favorites!
The scene with the tanks in the desert is the Hulks finest moment on screen. It shows he can be tactical, destructive and yet carry a cool swagger.
Would have been much better to have the Hulk like that in Infinity War and End Game, IMHO. They really did get the Hulk's personality right and you were rooting for him in this movie.
This was a good movie.
This is an amazing retrospective, Oliver. And a pleasing surprise. I wasn't expecting you to cover this one. I, very much like you, felt underwhelmed when I came out of the Cinema after seeing it, back in the day. And, also like you, have come to appreciate the movie more overtime. I think that the great great culprit here, as you point out in the video, is the shade of green they used for the Hulk. It doesn't do him, and the CGI on his character, any favours. Great work, as always.
Thanks very much for your feedback!
I love the animations in this movie. They made Hulk feel so powerful.
The best movie reviews on TH-cam by a long way.
Thanks dude!
Effects on Hulk are really good in this movie tbh much better than 2008 one.
I had this movie on repeat when I was 7 years old. I liked it then, and this video makes me want to re-watch it.
As much as I enjoy Mark Ruffalo; Eric Bana was *perfect* for this role. I loved this movie as a kid and still love it today. I like when comic book movies can be taken seriously without harsh critics bashing them for being "dark and grim." Hulk 03 was a movie that delt with some pretty serious themes and didn't try to be a comedy like most cb movies.
This was an incredible movie, it was more than nowadays comic book movies are: light hearted comedies tamed down so they're family friendly enough to milk as much money as possible. The movie direction was incredible, the visual transitions, Hulk getting bigger and bigger as he was being hurt, action scenes were tremendous, you could actually feel fear of what could happen when he was losing control.
It's a pity it wasn't a commercial success when it launched, and that's probably why big movies today aren't taking risks anymore, they just keep to the formula to get as much money as possible.
I actually prefer this film to Norton's Hulk, and I love Norton as an actor. Whedon really captured the essence of The Hulk best of all. Awesome retrospective, as always.
I am glad I am not the only one that's thinks this.
20:40 I was very young when I was taken to it and have been told and slightly remember wanting to leave before hulk showed up cause of the love story they were telling but I stuck it out and loved all the action remember the family drama being very creepy considering how relatable it could be
I love this version of The Hulk still not sure why it wasn't more successful. And it's always fun to watch Nick Nolte
Always nice to see someone actually give this movie a fair shake instead of just regurgitating the same copy and paste criticism for one or two things.
This film was shot and / or edited in such a unique way, your Average Joe simply moved on w/o much thought to what they just watched.
The ending wasn't the greatest but the film as a whole was quite enjoyable.
Its weird ass cinematography, cuts, and leisurely pace still gets to me. What a job. Need to watch for any cinephile.