Match 8 was actually a historically significant match in NXT. It was Carmella & Alexa's last match before going to the main roster, and the debut NXT matches for Mandy Rose and the future Nikki Cross & Sonya Deville. A shifting of eras, for sure.
I never really understood why they gave Liv a New Jersey gimmick when they already had Carmella with Enzo & Cass doing a Staten Island gimmick. (Yes, I know it's not the same, but to a lot of people outside the Tri-State area, there's a massive amount of overlap.) Luckily, as you stated, she was really good at marketing herself, so it ended up not being a big deal. She definitely improved over time. She was already really athletic at the start, and I wonder if that slowed progress for her, since it seems she was adding more complicated spots before she was smoothing out the basics. All in all, she _was_ signed as a developmental talent, and she wrestled _and_ was booked as such. Not a memorable run, but it didn't really need to be.
@@davidburke7777 I think I was aware that they dated for a time(was years ago, forgive my memory), but I had never heard that Enzo wanted her in Carmella's place. I'd say it's probably for the best they didn't put Liv with Enzo & Cass; she doesn't seem like she'd easily come off as snobby or heelish like Carmella can. (No offense to Carmella as a person; saying she's believable playing that character.)
I like Liv and I like that we are celebrating her arrest. Liv’s a wrestler that has improved quite a lot. She use to post her wrestling training on her instagram, which you can see her trying new moves with her trainers.
@@ShiningJudgment666 that’s what I was expecting I’m just worried about having to sit through 40 minute matches. You all know I struggle to pay attention for that long!
@@Stormz101-w9qYou mean the frame around his basement window, may be his frame of reference is greater than yours, lol... What you said has SFA to do with what OP said
@@buhbuhjaychampagne1706aliyahs vince type too she just wasnt blonde. surprised it took her so long to get called up. but as soon as she did, boom gear change into a revealing ass bra and small shorts with slits on the sides. considering she wore a longsleeve crop in nxt and pants, i knew it was one of those perverted higher ups. also raquels gear changing into a singlet told me they had their hands all over these call ups
I think at the time they need med more women teams to lead up to WrestleMania which not ideal to be brought to main roster while still green to be a stepping stone
She barely wore makeup back then compared to her wearing much heavier makeup/face paint and she’s older idk where you guys got filler from lol? She looks the same with no makeup
Thank you MarkyD for giving us contet almost every day, I’m sure you really work hard for that. Much Love to the H A W K, every night, every day, twice on tuesdays ❤️
Hey Marky ik NXT isn’t technically mainline WWE which you said you don’t really watch anymore if at all. But thanks for covering this side of the wrestling business for this rare time. I know about my fair share of TNA as I watched it HEAVY in that 2009-2015ish (EC3 Stan, Ik bruh he’s washed now) and do really enjoy the TNA vids but this was a nice surprise. Keep up the good work and SHOVE IT MANNNNN!!!!!
@@toxiczombiewolf5692 She's in ROH mainly as their Women's Champion. I kind of wish she went to Impact/TNA. Naomi is in TNA and is their current Women's Champion.
Thata boy Marky! I appreciate that you putting in the work to show us material like this from your point of view, and create a glimpse into the past of the wrestlers from what they did in the past to get where they are today. I miss the old intro and some of the borderline offensive jokes you made in the past but I guess that comes with the professionalism that you are projecting. I used to near bust my gut laughing at your Jeff Hardy voice/impression. Keep up the great work!
Between Alexa Bliss, Carmella, Mandy Rose and Liv Morgan, I kinda wonder if Vince or someone else high up is trying to redo the magic that was Trish Stratus, or wanting to recreate the dog barking backstage promo someday...
Thing this run taught me the most: Someone in NXT creative was really obsessed in having Liv Morgan face off against some variation of the Iconics. Like damn. It's like she couldn't get away from them.
It’s interesting to see her get thicker as time goes on. Goes from skinnier to Carmella to being able to piggyback Nikki cross without using her hands in her last match (which you left out)
She could have complemented Enzo and Cass well especially with Carmella in the group. Not to mention Carmella was dating Cass and Liv was dating Enzo at the time
@@Markyd123he actually does some pretty gnarly stuff even for his age during this run, idk if it’ll be an A bc of the TV matches. But you’ll see a LOT of memorable moments good or bad especially on the PLE’s
came back after seeing her match with nia jax on raw, i've always thought that she had something sepcial, can't get over how different her move set is now, she's evolved so much.
Fun memories as NXT back in 2013 got my eyes back on WWE and I was pretty into thwir product at around this time. She definitely grew on me more once she went to the MR.
Id like to see a nxt run of askua cause 1. I havent watched any of it and 2. I heard she was super dominant but also good matches. Or the new dmg contrls prev Japan run
Some ideas for future Ring Of The Hawk episodes: Rick Boogs' entire WWE career. Counting NXT & Main Event, he's only had 27 televised matches. Maximum Male Models in WWE. Shawn Stasiak in WWE. From his Meat gimmick all the way to Planet Stasiak, it's under 30 matches. Jerry Lynn as Mr. JL in WCW. Dave Taylor, William Regal's former tag team partner in WCW, had a run in WWE around 2006-2007.
Tbh I didn't see Liv making it big in WWE because her NXT run wasnt really that impressive in my opinion. But now look at her shes come a long way and prove many people, like me wrong.
OG Liv was the ONE. The new version appeals to little girls & boys, giving her the WWE attention she needs to survive in that terrible hiring & firing industry.
Liv dropping Cameron in the battle royal was the first time I saw her and I though jeez shes awful lol, glad it didnt take her much time to get better.
@@DeathsNitemareShepardOfHope Probably had some work done (probably not much or it's really seamless) but she's certainly really beautiful without make-up.
you can say what you want about her jersey 101 gimmick, her ring gear back then was lit. there's something about a pretty girl in a jersey with a snapback on her head and a great sneakers game that is just hot af.
Too bad the only time we have Liv Morgan, Alexa Bliss, and Mandy Rose in the same ring was during a six-women tag match. Good thing Daria Berenato got the ring name Sonya Deville since I don't think her real name would have gotten her over.
I've actually watched all her NXT matches in a row about a year ago. I think she did pretty well considering she was mainly enhancement talent. I'm a big fan and love that she could get by just on her looks but loves wrestling and is always trying to improve and she certainly has!
vince ruined her. and i can assertively say that because she was getting a good reaction when she returned (as lanas secret lover smh) her theme was amazing before it was remixed and it screamed vince. she was a paul heyman project and when he left that position, she was led down a shitty ass road
Match 8 was actually a historically significant match in NXT. It was Carmella & Alexa's last match before going to the main roster, and the debut NXT matches for Mandy Rose and the future Nikki Cross & Sonya Deville. A shifting of eras, for sure.
yeah
Forget Dirty Dom, we have Lock Up Liv now.
I don't mind her Joining the Judgement Day and dating Rhea, replacing Dirty Dom. It checks all of the boxes.
You mean Light Up Liv? There's no way her "friend" left that weed on her. LOL.
@@brad3042 True. "Friend" Matt Riddle doesn't leave weed. It spontaneously combusts just from being with in arms reach of him.
Matt Riddle would love to get high with all dat weed
@@CornBreadtm1if that happens, I demand we return to the Judgment Day runs Raw: Overdrive Era.
I never really understood why they gave Liv a New Jersey gimmick when they already had Carmella with Enzo & Cass doing a Staten Island gimmick. (Yes, I know it's not the same, but to a lot of people outside the Tri-State area, there's a massive amount of overlap.) Luckily, as you stated, she was really good at marketing herself, so it ended up not being a big deal.
She definitely improved over time. She was already really athletic at the start, and I wonder if that slowed progress for her, since it seems she was adding more complicated spots before she was smoothing out the basics. All in all, she _was_ signed as a developmental talent, and she wrestled _and_ was booked as such. Not a memorable run, but it didn't really need to be.
Enzo was dating Liv at the time said the same thing. He wanted her with him and Cass because she’s legit from New Jersey unlike Carmella.
@@davidburke7777 I think I was aware that they dated for a time(was years ago, forgive my memory), but I had never heard that Enzo wanted her in Carmella's place. I'd say it's probably for the best they didn't put Liv with Enzo & Cass; she doesn't seem like she'd easily come off as snobby or heelish like Carmella can. (No offense to Carmella as a person; saying she's believable playing that character.)
Problem is her promos are awfully souless.
@@whynotbrosay I can't really argue that she's pretty bad on the mic still, at least she was last I was still watching WWE.
Picture she came back an folk had
Funny signs like pot Morgan.🤣
Update:she came back at the Royal
Rumble.
From hooters chick to former smackdown women’s champion, the girl done good
Who would have guess she would be the breakout star of the Riott Squad
@@HarmonySwordI mean Ruby doing goidcin aew she stayed in wwe she would just be a jobber and seems like Sarah has a manager type role.
She good herself too 😋
I like Liv and I like that we are celebrating her arrest.
Liv’s a wrestler that has improved quite a lot. She use to post her wrestling training on her instagram, which you can see her trying new moves with her trainers.
Helps its a cool arrest lol. I'm sure if we could, we would've celebrated RVD getting pulled over for weed when he was WWE champion.
wwe awarding horrible behavior like always
@@MasterOfViewership spits at you.
was that supposed to bother me?@@C2HGaming
Master of Nerds, Mate, she smoked some weed. Are you Red from That 70s Show?
The fact that Liv Morgan, aka Marley, was literally a nobody and got cheered over Eva Marie in NXT speaks volumes.
A dead dog would get a bigger pop than Eva marie
@@That_Guy- My point exactly.
That doesn't prove anything, "hurr durr someone else cheered over a heel" how remarkable
Protype Liv at least tried
Great video
I also just realized Edge's most recent WWE run only had 29 matches, maybe a future competitor
It’s happening it will just take a very long time to make that one!
@@Markyd123let’s gooo
@@Markyd123 Excited for that one
Would have to be an A or a high B.
@@ShiningJudgment666 that’s what I was expecting I’m just worried about having to sit through 40 minute matches. You all know I struggle to pay attention for that long!
BAROOD IS COMING!
That’s your opinion it’s up for speculation 😂
Hey markyd123
Barood, who...eats the ladies food.
It's Barood! He'll get your girl in the mood!
@@TheBorkLaser she will smell the fart he brewed
I remember this like it was yesterday her in ring work used to be god awful but it was cool seeing her improve and she improved fast
It's always good to see people improving over time. Can't wait to see her back after injury wonder if she's in the rumble.
Story goes that originally she worked for Hooters. Crazy to see how much she’s grown.
Leave your basement once in a while, you might gain a frame of reference
😏
She did work there for a bit and I thi k her boyfriend at the time big cass got her to join wrestling if I remember correctly.
how short did she used to be then?
@@Stormz101-w9qYou mean the frame around his basement window, may be his frame of reference is greater than yours, lol... What you said has SFA to do with what OP said
In honor of her recent arrest.
That sounds so funny and cold marky🤣
what'd she get arrested for??
@@MarinaLeventaki Having a dab pen, which is dumb for her to get arrested for but it is what it is
That woman's shoe budget must be insane. No wonder nxt lost money
what?
😂
It's wild to see all these girls in NXT again after the years on the main roster
Hawk always capitalizing on what’s hot in the news
*Crazy they saw this NXT run and, compared to runs like Bayley and Aliyah, thought **_"yup she's ready for the main roster now"_*
She’s Vince’s type. Pretty and blonde.
@@buhbuhjaychampagne1706aliyahs vince type too she just wasnt blonde. surprised it took her so long to get called up. but as soon as she did, boom gear change into a revealing ass bra and small shorts with slits on the sides. considering she wore a longsleeve crop in nxt and pants, i knew it was one of those perverted higher ups. also raquels gear changing into a singlet told me they had their hands all over these call ups
I think at the time they need med more women teams to lead up to WrestleMania which not ideal to be brought to main roster while still green to be a stepping stone
“she finally gets to piss” got me 😂
I rewound 6 times
She literally used to have a different face, it’s wild.
I had to do a double take. She much filler and injections anymore. She was beautiful as is
She barely wore makeup back then compared to her wearing much heavier makeup/face paint and she’s older idk where you guys got filler from lol? She looks the same with no makeup
@@DonaldMeyers-v8c she got lip filler but its obvious her face changes are just physical maturation and makeup. She's in her 20s
@@socialistbatmanshe weirdly looked like Alexa Bliss’ cousin in Nxt. I already thought they were similar enough
@night6724 that's why I find both beautiful 😍
Before Toni Storm(the all timer) the GAWT Queen was Bayley.
Nikki Cross needs respect on her name.
Bayley is still the GAWT Queen. Toni lost all her cake when she slimmed down and just got it back after gaining her weight back
What about Mickie James
Thank you MarkyD for giving us contet almost every day, I’m sure you really work hard for that. Much Love to the H A W K, every night, every day, twice on tuesdays ❤️
I remember watching her first matches, always thought she had a lot of potential.
Hey Marky ik NXT isn’t technically mainline WWE which you said you don’t really watch anymore if at all. But thanks for covering this side of the wrestling business for this rare time. I know about my fair share of TNA as I watched it HEAVY in that 2009-2015ish (EC3 Stan, Ik bruh he’s washed now) and do really enjoy the TNA vids but this was a nice surprise. Keep up the good work and SHOVE IT MANNNNN!!!!!
Crazy how some people prefer bad wrestling. Not watching WWE isn't cool anymore.
Ember Moon should get her own video some day. Her NXT run was amazing. Not like her main roster one. That was sad.
Everything after nxt was sad for her
Is she with aew or was it impact now?
@@toxiczombiewolf5692 She's in ROH mainly as their Women's Champion. I kind of wish she went to Impact/TNA. Naomi is in TNA and is their current Women's Champion.
Rachel Ellering has “Dad Face”
It was kinda crazy with Liv back then, her gimmick was a trinkle down from another one. Bella to Mella to Morgan
Casual reminder that Liv won’t ever sleep with you 😊
It's stupid pot is illegal in Florida. Also Liv looks great in her mug shot.
Keep seething Pothead
Thata boy Marky! I appreciate that you putting in the work to show us material like this from your point of view, and create a glimpse into the past of the wrestlers from what they did in the past to get where they are today. I miss the old intro and some of the borderline offensive jokes you made in the past but I guess that comes with the professionalism that you are projecting. I used to near bust my gut laughing at your Jeff Hardy voice/impression. Keep up the great work!
the hawk actually called Sara "Sara Morgan" hahaha...that's definitely an S for the hawk
Liv looks like Alexa Bliss on the Nintendo Switch.
Brilliant
Isn't that good? Both very beautiful women 😍
Between Alexa Bliss, Carmella, Mandy Rose and Liv Morgan, I kinda wonder if Vince or someone else high up is trying to redo the magic that was Trish Stratus, or wanting to recreate the dog barking backstage promo someday...
Didn’t Carmella have brown hair when she debuted in Wwe?
@@night6724 Yup but IIRC Trish isn't a natural blonde either, so Carmella going blonde IMO counts...
Ill say this..Livs sneaker game is pretty damn good
Thing this run taught me the most:
Someone in NXT creative was really obsessed in having Liv Morgan face off against some variation of the Iconics. Like damn. It's like she couldn't get away from them.
I forgot she was in NXT for some reason
Haha damn not the mugshot on the thumbnail 😅 you wild hawk
It’s interesting to see her get thicker as time goes on. Goes from skinnier to Carmella to being able to piggyback Nikki cross without using her hands in her last match (which you left out)
When are you going to check ember moon's nxt run?
She could have complemented Enzo and Cass well especially with Carmella in the group. Not to mention Carmella was dating Cass and Liv was dating Enzo at the time
no , he cheated on her
@@niasharp9049 I'm aware. Just saying her gimmick at the time could have been a good fit for the group.
@@HWJASURY it did
Thanks to the grass, atleast we got that mugshot.
6:34
The backbreaker was so rough, it turned into a gutbuster halfway through the move (someone needs a punch to the gut).
Wonder if we gonna get Edge’s WWE run after the return from 2020 with 28 matches or Retribution run with less then 10
Edge and is defo happening. Just gotta be patient bevause some of those matches are extremely long.
@@Markyd123 oh I can wait for that
@@lukegourlay4110 do you think it will be an a? Slightly concenerned because I really struggle to sit through long matches.
@@Markyd123 never seen a lot of matches from him, but hopefully it is
@@Markyd123he actually does some pretty gnarly stuff even for his age during this run, idk if it’ll be an A bc of the TV matches. But you’ll see a LOT of memorable moments good or bad especially on the PLE’s
came back after seeing her match with nia jax on raw, i've always thought that she had something sepcial, can't get over how different her move set is now, she's evolved so much.
That NXT era was full of so many hot women.
This explains why liv Morgan had such different expressions when she was hit, it was the effects of the plant lol
I swear Liv Morgan’s mugshot looks better than all the crap she put on her face known as makeup.(foundation or not.)
You're a woke nerd but you're right. Trump is taking back the white house
2025.
Liv is naturally beautiful 😍
You are a true professional....Liv would never get less than an A from me
Really liked Nikki with this gimmick, she was so vicious, was very entertaining to watch.
Shes been acting all unhinged again I love it
Fun memories as NXT back in 2013 got my eyes back on WWE and I was pretty into thwir product at around this time.
She definitely grew on me more once she went to the MR.
Id like to see a nxt run of askua cause 1. I havent watched any of it and 2. I heard she was super dominant but also good matches.
Or the new dmg contrls prev Japan run
Why did The Hawk skip match 7? He probably got hit in the head with a brick too many times, I assume.
Edge's WWE run 2020-2023 next? (about total 29 Matches)
I remember when she debuted with riot squad and I had an old nxt liv Morgan super card and I swear I was convinced they weren’t the same petson
You should definitely do some ember moon series she is so amazing
Year 2-3 of requesting Eric Escobar’s 2009 Smackdown run for Ring of the Hawk!
I'm so confused why matches he says are bad are getting S-Tier. That's above A in every ranking I've ever known.
S= shit
I actually liked Liv's run in NXT sure she didn't get many wins but I feel she constantly improved.
In honor of her recent arrest 😂😂😂
Didn’t know liv got a whole new face lol but it definitely was an upgrade
Liv Morgan is awesome. She also has the hottest Mugshot i've ever seen.
Facts. In fact the 'hot female prisoner' memes came to mind.
Idk why i don't find her that attractive when she was younger during her nxt days. But now even in a mugshot... Just wow
I had no idea she had been fired. Thought she was injured again.
Some ideas for future Ring Of The Hawk episodes:
Rick Boogs' entire WWE career. Counting NXT & Main Event, he's only had 27 televised matches.
Maximum Male Models in WWE.
Shawn Stasiak in WWE. From his Meat gimmick all the way to Planet Stasiak, it's under 30 matches.
Jerry Lynn as Mr. JL in WCW.
Dave Taylor, William Regal's former tag team partner in WCW, had a run in WWE around 2006-2007.
Ive always fantasy booked a Liv + Alexa+ Mandy heel mean girl faction
That 6 girl tag was sponsored by "Only Fans"
Liv Morgan in NXT is a D for me
Liv Morgan in general deserves a D but a positive one
0:59 she did the Kizarny 😭😭😭
Iconics or inspiration for the next ring of the hawk
Uhhh... Why is S the lowest tier? Isn't it supposed to be the highest?
S means shit. He ain't doing it like all the other youtubers, and if you don't like that, then shut up, or I'll smack you one
That's gotta be the hottest mugshot I've ever seen. Im not even that big of a fan normally.
Tbh I didn't see Liv making it big in WWE because her NXT run wasnt really that impressive in my opinion. But now look at her shes come a long way and prove many people, like me wrong.
I enjoyed liv in NXT i thought they called her up too soon and figured her NXT gimmick would be DOA on the main roster but shes pretty good now a days
TNA Knock Outs on a different level
OG Liv was the ONE. The new version appeals to little girls & boys, giving her the WWE attention she needs to survive in that terrible hiring & firing industry.
Have you ever done Eva Marie’s run
Liv dropping Cameron in the battle royal was the first time I saw her and I though jeez shes awful lol, glad it didnt take her much time to get better.
her drip tho. matching with all the js
Forgot about this NXT run, now im gonna see the Iconiics in my nightmares
I would let liv morgan put me in the Shuv It Zone anyday..,,,,
LONG LIVE THE HAWK!!!
I see you are a man of culture 😂😂😂
Liv sold that Bayley suplex like a pro.I like her running bulldog as well.
Thanks for the barood crotch shot 😂😂😂
Wow my man works fast
My Suggestion : All Paul London's Match in ROH, I think you will have a great time!
Can you do Nia Jax in Nxt including her return in 2021 she had 18 matches?
0:45 I didn't really like Liv Morgan around this time. She was like a mini-Carmella.
All ppv matches of the Smackdon 6 in 2004
Reminds me of Trish and lita in a since of massive improvement in the ring. I'm a fan overall
Maybe the next ring of the hawk should be Kevin Owen’s run in nxt
It’s on my list. I have about 50 different nxt runs on there 😂😂
Take your time, no rush and enjoy the holidays.
The Iconics getting push was the only thing that makes sense
Huh, Liv looked so different back then. I didn't watch Any wrestling back during this time let alone NXT.
😅👍
Ok so by match 10 she looks much more like she currently does.😅
@@DeathsNitemareShepardOfHope Probably had some work done (probably not much or it's really seamless) but she's certainly really beautiful without make-up.
Whoop whoop! Much Love Y'all
15:05-15:08. I certainly hope that XThreeee does not hear this slander of Liv Morgan's entrance music🤣👀.
you can say what you want about her jersey 101 gimmick, her ring gear back then was lit. there's something about a pretty girl in a jersey with a snapback on her head and a great sneakers game that is just hot af.
Too bad the only time we have Liv Morgan, Alexa Bliss, and Mandy Rose in the same ring was during a six-women tag match. Good thing Daria Berenato got the ring name Sonya Deville since I don't think her real name would have gotten her over.
Liv back then feels like a completely different person to the Liv now
Liv Morgan looks soooooo different..she done so much cosmetic
Commeting on every video until J&J security gets a video
Strangely seeing her in March 2016 getting jobbed to Nia Jax in two minutes I knew then she would be a future star
Kip-ups are becoming almost as tasteless as super kicks.
And... Canadian Destroyers
I've actually watched all her NXT matches in a row about a year ago. I think she did pretty well considering she was mainly enhancement talent. I'm a big fan and love that she could get by just on her looks but loves wrestling and is always trying to improve and she certainly has!
vince ruined her. and i can assertively say that because she was getting a good reaction when she returned (as lanas secret lover smh) her theme was amazing before it was remixed and it screamed vince. she was a paul heyman project and when he left that position, she was led down a shitty ass road
I love me some Liv Morgan 😍