Triumph T120, How to clean and lube your MOTORCYCLE CHAIN, Deep clean method!
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- This is the way I clean and lube my chain, The result of 30+ years of carrying out this task has I believe resulted in possibly the best possible method!
I will keep you informed on the performance of the Muc off dry chain lube in a few hundred miles!
Links to the products used below!
Muc off chain cleaner.
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Muc off Drive chain detailing brush.
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Muc off MO94
muc-off.com/collections/motor...
Muc off dry chain lube
muc-off.com/collections/motor...
Coobeck chain cleaning brush.
www.amazon.co.uk/d/Automotive...
Muc off bike cleaner
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This video has made me decide to buy a shaft driven bike next.
Jesus, it all looks such a pain in the arse. That looks like an all day job just to clean the chain. I haven’t got that time. I’d rather ride. And how many products! Don’t get me wrong I love the channel and the instruction is great and I love the pristine look of your bikes.
I can't believe i'm sat here watching you clean your bike, but i have to say what a thorough job you have done. I've learnt a lot. Thanks.
Hi Stuart... recently discovered your channel and must say I'm thoroughly enjoying it. Nice, clear concise and very informative.... a real pleasure to watch. I shall be investing some time to watch your previous uploads and finally may I add a thank you for the hard work and effort people like you put into filming, uploading and sharing little gems of information whilst making it very interesting and entertaining to follow. Regards
Thank you very much Mark its comments like that that make it all worth while! Thank you for watching!
never seen in my life such a nice chain cleaning pro 3.0 .. amazing
As always another quality video showing chain maintenance.
Thanks David and thanks for watching!
Very helpful in chain maintenance on my 2004 T100.
I just cleaned and lubed my 2017 T120 per your instructions - thanks so much for your very informative and enjoyable videos. I wish I would have discovered your channel much sooner! Excellent work!
You're somewhat of a celebrity in the Triumph advice world Stuart, and rightly so. Sound metholodology and a natural teacher.
Watched a few of your videos now, very informative and I have taken and put into practice your advice with great results to my Triumph Bobber. Thanks.
Good to hear sir! Thanks very much for watching!
Great video I've no center stand but my partner got me an abba stand for my speed triple and now I'm in my 50s I really enjoy a good day in the garage with a regular clean and maintenance routine also good practice to spot potential problems with your bike 🍀😍very good watching your vids 👍
Excellent. As always. Clear, concise, unambiguous. Ride safe, Stuart.
Who'd have thought chain maintenance could be so interesting. 👍🏻. Great stuff.
LOL thanks Dervman!
This is why i subbed.. "uncle Stu is gonna sort you out." Best line ever. Thank you sir
Thanks for good information. On 20 of July I am the new owner of an Triumph Bonneville T120.
A very thorough, detailed and informative video Stuart. Like I've been use to shaft drive bike but just about to purchase a chain driven motorcycle. This is one video I shall be referring back to many thanks
Your welcome Peter thanks for watching, to be honest I don't think you can beat chain drive, I always found shaft drive to be a bit snatchy! enjoy your new bike sir! you always welcome to post a picture of it on my face book feed when you get it!
Very informative, I really need to pay mare attention to my chain. Thanks for posting.
Thank you Joe and thanks for watching!
Hi Stuart, I too, like Mark below but somewhat later down the road, have only recently discovered your channel and I completely agree with what he has written. After starting my riding 'career' in 1973 on chain driven bikes (using them literally all year round - no car) to commute to and from work and remembering the nights when I'd come home and then have to strip the chain off and heat up a round tin of chain oil/grease and soak them over night, (and then put it back on in the morning), in the late eighties I 'saw the light' and since then have ridden shaft drive bikes. However, just recently I have purchased a Bonneville Speedmaster (previously a Pan European) and put the 'fun' back in my biking! Over the intervening years chains have progressed and the range of products now on the market to keep them in good condition has mushroomed; the choice is huge and this is where your excellent thoughts and advice are a God send as are alot of the other topics you cover..... Apart from anything else, I love your accent and manner of delivery and reminds me very fondly of an old work colleague who came from Airmyn near Goole and with whom I'm still in contact. I digress. Thank you and keep up the great work! 😀
Another fine video. Thank you sir for your hard work in putting these video's together. I'll be purchasing my T-120 in December. Just waiting to see if anything is going to change for 2018.
Me too rob but ithink it might be a little early yet, thanks for watching!
I have had 66 bikes in 42 years, always willing to learn new techniques so thank you very much I shall be applying your knowledge to keeping my bikes in tip top condition
Yourvery welcome Phil! thanks very much for watching!
Very useful and interesting as always. thanks Stuart.
Thanks Carl!
Good video. Thank you for posting it.
Hi mate ! All is see is a shiny beast who is being pampered and I love it. You need to be more famous mate !
That's a great looking Bonnie! 👌
Thanks I needed this video . 👍🏽
Thanks, meticulous as always. Just one thing. When drying the chain off with the cloth I find it safer to always rotate the chain towards the drying hand as the way you have shown it there is a chance you may grip it firmly enough that the pinky gets caught in the chain/sprocket - ouch! I did it once, but never again...
Here in the U.S. we have a product named S100. I've used this product and it appears to work just like your 85 product. Both seem to work well.
Exceptional chain maintenance video. Always a pleasure watching your videos. I use the same products on my Street Cup in Thailand. Thank you.
Thank you Suan good to hear you enjoyed it! how do you find the dry chain lube?
Thanks for watching!
stuart fillingham..so Much better then the Motul products I was using previously but I clean my chain every 350km or at the end of my ride if it's longer than that anyway. Motul (being sticky) had advantages if caught in the rain....and there is a rainy season we are currently in.
thank you sir !
I use a plastic cement mixing tray under my bike to catch all the run off from the cleaning products so I don't have to clean my driveway after cleaning my bike and avoid a bollocking 🗣. Thanks Stuart, another good vid.
Hi Pod yes I suppose I should really! I normally do it in my garage which has a painted floor, so its quite easy to mop up when ive finished!
Very helpful!
I do not own a motorcycle yet. But I want to make sure I know everything there is to know about taking care of my motorcycle. I am currently interested in an Indian Scout. Also wanted to mention I appreciate your attention to detail on your motorcycle, and in your video work.
Thank you! and thanks for watching!
Useful information ❤️🙏
As an old school biker I know that the right way to live a chain is to spray it from 3 different spots…thanks for your nice video.
Very helpful thanks
Given that I'm new to the world of biking, and I fell in love with the Bonneville's before getting my license, I have viewed a lot of your videos.
Now that I got myself a Bonneville T100 865 ccm fro 2008, I now need to learn a lot about maintenance. Here you also have a lot of videos :)
But it requires some time to find all of the, if I have found all of them ;) Could you do a video, where you mention and short explains all the thing that one need to look after / take care of?
Kind regards from Denmark :)
Arghhhh......cannot believe that just living in Europe over the water I cannot order Muc-off aerosol products from the UK, tried looking for a local dealer here in Spain and it's a RIP off.
I will need to use my internet google degree to find some from somewhere.
Love the video for a newbie like me I have watched this a hundred time, thanks Stuart for such a great video...again. (Maybe a playlist of How to's for Dummies of Triumph Maintenance)
I've always used regular paint thinner, and pure dish soap after. Works great and is okay for o rings. Then like u, Castrol chain wax.
Great video!!!!!!Amazing👍👍
Thanks Stuart!!
Your welcome sir! Thanks for watching!
i was just to buy a speedmaster but after watching this (very informative and excellent video)I'm off the market i didn't know it takes so much maintenance on a motorcycle ,i had a Harley and only change the oil back in the 90s it never give me any problems for 12 years but i guess the triumphs need more attention ,they look Beutiful anyways.
all motor vehicles require maintenance Joe!
Very interesting and informative Stuart, my biking experience goes even further back, nearly 50 years, in those days the thing to use was 'Linklife' It came in a can that you put on the stove, in which you immersed your chain.
when the molten wax or whatever it was inside the tin cooled down, you then removed the chain and refitted to the bike. very messy! if you forgotten it was on the gas ring it would stink the kitchen out, and your Mum would go crazy!
Of course that was before o ring chains, and no Muc off - just Gunk, which left the bike smelling like an engineering shop!
happy days! I'm sure these modern products are far better, anyway, always look forward to your videos, keep 'em coming
cheers, Dave
Bloody hell Dave! you don't look old enough! Yeah I remember that well, although I wasn't allowed to do it in the house, my mum made me do it outside on a camps stove! lol I used to hang it on the washing line to cool down and let the excess drip off in to the tin below. I have to admit chains do last a lot longer these days with those O rings I only used to get a year out of a chain before it have stretched to much, mind you I did 12000+ miles a year in those days! Thanks for watching !
Not that old! just 66, first bike Tiger Cub in '68
Yes, the video - it's very useful. Maybe have to adjust a bit the maintenance methods... Thanks for the video!
Thank you Mr Dark!
Stuart, I’ve checked recently about the GT85 issue in the States, and it does seem that since I last worked in a bicycle shop there was a liscencing issue or something with GT85 and 8t is no longer imported. I went ahead and tried the MO94 as a substitute and it seems to be a good replacement. Shined up the engine and chassis, and should protect pretty well. I got it directly from Muc Off, as well as the bike cleaner. They still don’t show all their motorbike products available in the States, I would really like to try more of them. Hopefully they will get them soon.
Hey Stuart. Hope all is well with you. Another fabulous video that had been eagerly anticipated all week. I've used the Muc-Off chain lube for a while now and certainly on my T120 from new. As you know I do around 250 miles a week commuting and I haven't had that problem from the 'quasi' front sprocket cover (bike has done 1700 miles so far). Hopefully it's the quality of the Muc-Off chain lube! Thankyou so much again for all your hard work producing these glorious videos...even after 33 years of biking they are certainly opening my eyes and adding a new dimension to the care of my lovely T120. All the very best sir and looking forward to next week.
Thank you mr Bond very interested that your using the muc off lube, is it the dry lube perchance?
Indeed sir - the very one in your video.
Well i take it you like it? any tips / observations/ opinions about it?
Pretty much what you've already covered except that I have never had the black gunge build up from it. First use it on my CB650F and carried i over to the T120. I have found that it seems to clean off easier than other brands and is definitely anti-fling. I like the longevity of Muc-Off products and they just seem to have that edge on quality. Would certainly recommend it. Will stick some pics of my chain on your FB feed.
Good feed back thanks Paul! yeah I think the black gunge is a product of the Castrol or an earlier product I tried. Muc off suggested that their dry Lube might solve the problem or at least slow it down! I do prefer chain wax to liquid lubes it seems far less messy!
Will look forward to the photos!
Coat the inside of the front socket area in MO94 or gt85/acf50 before refitting It, makes life a lot easier in the spring clean!!
Great scrubbing and lubricating tutorial Stuart but I have to say, I do love my belt drive. I know chain drive is traditional for Triumph but I feel they missed an opportunity to update the drive system and relieve new owners of this task.
Ah... Thank you! i really enjoy the ritual of chain cleaning and lubrication sir! give me a traditional chain any day!
Nice Stuart , sham you couldn’t do the demo bikes at my local triumph dealer.... all lined up with rusty chains 😱.....
GT85 was developed by a Tech in the Royal Air Force. ACF50 is another alternative, however it is no longer used for motorcycle detailing. And XCP is now used instead. However each product is not supposed to be used on painted metals. Which sadly a lot of so called motorcycle detailers do via an airbrush system.
Uncle Stu, thank you for this and your other great videos! Apologies if you've answered elsewhere (I've checked but cannot find it), but here goes: for regular lubing (when a chain cleaning is not happening), do you remove the chain guard, or, do you apply the lube to the back of the rear sprocket? Or, is there another tip?
answered my question, ty
Hi Stuart, i have always used scottoilers. Once installed and set up you never need to touch them again and your chain always has a light coating of clean gear oil. Saves all the fling and gathering of muck you highlighted.
I tried them back in the 80s but found them a bit messy, though I hear they are much better now. To be honest I rather enjoy the chain maintenance ritual, not sure what that says about me!
Fortunately I have a Harley certified tech with tons of experience and he left dealership and took his tools with him. He does my stuff for cash at home workshop for A third of the price and has never messed anything up. I go buy parts at Harley dealership and he replaces them. Actually it’s family that owns dealership. We keep it on the down low to avoid more fighting in family😂
Thanks Neighbor. S100 or pig snot will brighten you motor etc. Nicely. Available in the states at Harley dealers.
Own a thruxton really enjoy riding it . Own multiple bikes
Uncle Stu, have you tried Wurth dry çhain lube ? It's excellent, goes on like paint thinner so gets right in to every part then dries to almost nothing but is super anti wear , no build up means no melting out .
Thank’s for lots off information, now I’m well prepered when I get my T120 next week, (early Xmas gift), looking forward to more videos. /Mikael
Excited for you Mikael, nothing quite like getting a new bike!
Stuart, thank you for the videos, based in the US, and am looking at your shopping list above, they also have MO 94 Biodegradable Version vs Shop Edition (which appears the same as you are using) any opinion/experience with the Bio version? cheers, jim
Hi Stuart, as a T120 new owner (about a month now) I really find your videos useful. I live in Sweden. I wanted to ask you about third party sellers of Triumph parts that I can order myself online, my local Triumph dealer is happy to bleed me off my money just to order a simple add -on that I can mount myself. Any tip appreciated!!
Can you please do a video on adjusting the chain tension. It looks rather involved on the T120 . So great to see it done before taking on the job myself.
Will do David! give me a few weeks on that one, although to be fair they are very strong chains and rarely seem to need adjustment!
Hi Stuart, love the channel and style, very good viewing and useful tips. I've just switched to a 2017 T100 and am back to chain cleaning. What is the best tool (and size of) to remove the chain guard. Is it a standard Allen key or Torx? I don't do much more maintenance myself than chain cleaning so don't need a comprehensive kit and just want the tools I need - hence the request.
They are allen bolts sir, cant remember the size off hand, just get your self a set of them, they are not expensive. the one tucked behind the right hand side panel might actually fit!
Another great video Stuart. How about a ScottOiler? It uses a light oil that I doubt would cause this gunk problem around the T120's sprocket cover. Given the frequency Triumph recommend lubing the chain it could be a much better solution for the bike. Check with ScottOiler and Triumph before committing to buy of course as I haven't checked compatibility.
Hi, had a scotoiler back in the 80s and found it to be rather messy! I'm sure the latest generation is probably much better but quite happy with my weekly lubing ritual for now!
Another well presented video. I would add - DON’T get any chain cleaner/moisture dispersant/chain lube on the brake parts!!
Good, informative video, but I think I'll stick with my shaft-driven Moto Guzzi V7 Stone, thank you.
Hi Stuart. I have been enjoying your videos and although I do understand how you can like the ritual of cleaning the bike and chain for that matter, for me as an everyday rider in all conditions I would recommend people to use a pro-Oiler as I have been doing the last 3 years. I just fill the reservoir now and then and my chain needs no cleaning or replacement for the next 30000 km or even more.
I would recommend it, but I would surely look forward too you reviewing one.
Keep up the good work with those beautiful Triumphs you’ve got there.
Thanks for your comment sir i shall perhaps look in to that one next year!
Hi again Stuart.... Only product I can find here in Australia is WD40 dry lube spray with PTFE so have bought that and have sprayed my Thruxton, hopefully that will work OK. I cannot find any suppliers of Muc - Off products or GT85 here.
Hi Paul let me know how you get on with the WD40 it may be a similar product to GT85 as they are now one and the same company. Its strange how you use products for years and assume its available everywhere then discover its only available to a very narrow market! thanks for watching!
Please make a same video on the interceptor
Hi Stuart,
Awesome video. Kudos!
New Bonnie T120 owner here. I recently cleaned and lubed the chain on my bike, but I did not use the paper wall before spraying the lube on the chain as you did. So, my rear tire and wheel has lube guck now. I am now wondering if I should use Goo Gone (US) or just gentle soap water to clean both. I would highly appreciate your response. Thanks!
soap and water will not remove it, you need a solvent such as paraffin.
The MO94 has a new version with green graphics on it, this has had the PTFE removed.
I use paraffin oil as a cleaner on the chain. It's cheap and easily available
Damn this is good. Do you recommend addaing a center stand for my new t100 or are paddock stands fine.
whatever suits you!
Hi Stuart can you tell me what tyre you have on the rear I have a triumph bonneville t00 but can't find any good tyres I've got metzeler me z2 tyres but your tyres look better, I like the tread pattern.
Hi, Stuart, Nice video. Could you next time make a mention about the use of this products on matte paint. I want to try it but worried about my matte paint.Just to say if it's safe for use. Looking forward to the next video.
Hello I do have a video planned for the matt detailer but I need a matt bike in order to actually do it! I have made some arrangements with a friend but not been able to get anything organised with his busy schedule, please bear with me!
Looking forward for the video.
I’m 65 and have been riding almost 50 years and still learned more about chain and bike maintenance from you. I noticed that you don’t wear any (latex) gloves, any reason you don’t? Thank you
Hi Jeffrey. i just dont see the point, i dont mind getting my hands dirty and they clean up easily enough. Why spend money on something i dont need that just ends up in land fill causing contamination?
Thank you for watching sir!
Instead of the mo 94 on engine etc i use Muc off motorcycle protectant. I think it is fairly new
Sir, do you know of a conversion kit for the T-120 to switch from a chain to a kevlar belt like the belts installed on some Harley-Davidsons ???
I'm afraid i don't sir, sorry! but thanks for watching!
I've heard paraffin is good for cleaning chains, just roll the chain through a paraffin dampened cloth. Do you think this would be good for this chain?
Very good video! Thank you for the hint with 2 wheel revolutions per 1 chain revolution. I was overdoing it in the past. I'll take a look behind my sprocket cover today, after 5000 I'm curious. I'm using the same muc-off chain wax, it's great. Who doesn't love the banana smell after all? The only difference with my cleaning I use 100% kerosene in the spray bottle for cleaning and soaking my chain. Kero is super cheap and does its job well.
Hi Plysovejkaktus! I'm afraid kerosene is not readily available in the UK, I'm sure it can be obtained but I suspect being technically a fuel we would be charged all the UK government stealth taxes on it at around 60% so chain cleaner would probably be cheaper! interesting that you have covered so many miles with the wax would be interested in your findings when you take a look behind the sprocket cover! look e up on facebook and send a friends request!
Unfortunately, it's raining here today I just bought torque wrench socket extension, sprocket cover will have to wait until tomorrow.
I shall check that out sir,
I took a look and expected much worse. After ~6062 miles, there was some dirt on the bottom of the cover, but not more than 1mm. I hope you'll be able to see google drive photo: drive.google.com/file/d/0B9b7ONnBwzfjbGJQblUtN3dsLTg/view?usp=sharing
edit: cover nuts are 15Nm, just for the record
is that from using the muc off dry lube?
What about Dupont chain saver and Dupont multiuseTeflon chain Lube? What do you think of those chain lubes? Looking forward to your valuable reply, thank you.
I'm sure they are very good. DuPont is a well respected name. Just not generally available to me locally.
What would you recommend to do for those bike that don’t have central stands…is there a trick to turn the chain/back wheel?
paddock stand
Ah ,hope to get belt drive to replace chain
Hi Stuart, Have you ever considered fitting a Scottoiler System to your Triumph? You have to use the electric ones on the Triumphs and they are quite expensive but l have one fitted to my Street Scrambler and it works really well.
no plans on that one just yet.
Thats my bike off the road if you apply gt85 do you have to wipe it off??
I wonder about the dye in the muc off, wouldn't that become visible due to exposure to sunlight on all the visible surfaces?
No sir the other wavelengths of light will cancel it out!
Riding the bike across the United States would take a long time if you have to clean the chain and sprockets every 200 to 300 miles.
I used to lube my chain every morning before riding all day on any of my bikes that were chain driven.
I would get about 20,000 miles before I would have to replace the chain and sprockets.
I put 60,000 miles on a GS 750 Suzuki with no chain or sprocket issues. Most miles were 2 up at above posted speed limits.
Good video, but impractical for long distance riders trying to get across country in a short time.
That's why I went to a belt drive.
I never suggested it had to be cleaned every 200 to 300 miles..
You just mentioned that Triumph manual mentioned that you do the chain service at 200 miles.
If you were on a many thous
If you were on a many thousand miles trip covering 500 plus miles per day. What would be your chain maintenance routine?
Stuart, I’ve seen the use of kerosene to clean the chain by a rather large motorcycle workshop in USA, any thoughts?
yes thats fine!
can i dry the water rinse with a leaf blower?
MOTUL MC care chain lube and chain clean. I can get in USA Florida. it is made in France do recommend it. or not!??
Yes I use it myself occasionally!
Hi Stuart, great video. I just bought muc off bike protectant spray with ptfe and sprayed on my engine because I could not find gt85. Is it okay to use this product or should I buy the muc off 40 you used in this video ?
The bike protectant spray is actually better quality than the MO94 so it is perfect for use on the engine sir! just out of interest which country do you live in?
stuart fillingham thanks for your reply Sir. I live in India
Ah thanks for letting me know, can you get all muc off products there?
stuart fillingham yes there are couple of online shops where all the muc off products are available. I also bought the miracle shine, muc off bike clearer and protectant
well done sir! and how do you find the results compared to your old products?
Hi Stuart, good and informative, there is always something to learn from your videos. Just a quick question since you've addressed washing the bike and the chain in separate videos, what would be the best method for doing both at once? For instance, would you wash/clean the body first and the chain last? One thing that I've noticed with my previous bike is if I was cleaning the chain first and then continue with the body, the chain is exposed to humidity too long and started to show spots of rust. Hence, now I'm always cleaning the chain last and I'm careful not to leave it without (oil) protection, but the only downside with this method is obviously that some muck from the chain/sprockets will go on the (just cleaned) body.
Cristian Stoica i always coincide cleaning the chain at the same time as washing the bike. Then dry and re lube the chain before detailing the bike.
Thanks, so would you leave cleaning the chain at the end of the cleaning process, i.e. after the muc-off initial clean and the washing of the tank and the rest? Also, what would you use to remove any chain lube that goes on the rear tyre? Of course that it pays to be really careful when applying but sometimes there are very minor contaminations. Should I be worried about these or should I just drive carefully the first 50 miles or so until they run off the tyres?
Cristian Stoica no i would make it the first job then you can clear off any residue from the swing arm and wheel/tyre while your washing the bike!
Thanks for the great video (as always). However, I am still unclear as to when you actually wash the bike. Do you get the chain clean, then wash the bike, dry and lube the chain? Or do you clean and lube the chain, then wash the bike, then relube the chain? Sorry if this seems like a stupid question.
would engine degreaser work
MO 94 still is a tricky thing to get here without paying an exorbitant price. I tried several links online, and though the product itself saying anywhere from $6-13 US, the shipping is astronomical, as they appear to still be shipping directly from the UK. It turns a $6 can into a $17 can.
oh well I tried, they didn't tell me that! at least it all should be appearing in the shops around September time!
And we appreciate your efforts, Stuart! I look for only the best chemicals for my car and bike care, so when I see products like the ones made by Muc-Off, I seek them out.
I have had a look on Amazon United states, and MO94 is available for Just over $13 usd with free delivery!
Thanks, Stuart. I checked there before and came up empty. I guess I missed that one!
no problem matey glad to help!
How you found yourself with the product Mucc Off Dry Chain Lube?
Its great for dry summer use! no fling whatsoever. but if you ride in all weathers you might need something that will stand up to the elements better!
What do you advise?
What are these workshop wipes? I’ve heard of them but can’t find them anywhere
www.halfords.com/motoring/car-cleaning/sponges-brushes-and-buckets/scott-garage-shop-towels-692970.html
@@stuartfillingham thank you! Was racking the web with no luck.
How often in miles say is a good idea for your bike to do this process? And dont tell me to muc off again eh?
Du hast zwar die Abdeckung abgemacht, aber nicht gezeigt wie du dort reinigst.? Dort ist der meiste schmodder.
The old roller and pin chain can be cleaned by soaking in gasoline, then in kerosene, does a excellent job.
By law you must have a chain guard on a chain lock drive bike you can get a ticket for it. Being there
je suis propriétaire d une T 120 (2020).. montage couronne de 40 dents ; la 37 dents d origine provoque des rapports de boite trop longs
bien évidement a chacun ses gouts .... BONNE ROUTE
Oh so you lube it every 200 miles but cleaning is only necessary for every 1k miles? I’ve cleaning it every 200 miles and I was so frustrating every time I have to clean with a little mile.
That is correct
stuart fillingham you literally made my life 5 times easier. Thank you!
For your American & Canadian viewers here is a U.S. product (Gibbs Brand) that will give the same results as GT85
Click here for more info:
www.gibbsbrandlubricant.com/
Thank you, im sure others will appreciate that!
c est une grossière erreur de nettoyer une chaine a l eau