The amount of time and dedication Puget Systems put to their systems are next to insane level! Not to mention the support afterwards. Plus I also appreciate the tests they do with various CPUs and GPUs that literally a benchmark for creators. Just AWESOME! Thanks for the WIndows key discount btw 😉
I totally agree with the air cooling stance, my workstation is a tool to work on and earn money. Reliability is my number one requirement, if a fan fails it is a 5 minute fix, water cooling is a rabbit hole for wasting time when something goes wrong. AIO benefits for my workloads are so tiny when compared to 24 hour operation and reliability.
I agree as well. Water cooling introduces risk into the system. When you need a box to run all day and night on long jobs, consumer grade water cooling is not the way to go IMO.
This exactly. To be fair consumer water cooling is a lot better than it used to be but the difference between consumer and DC water cooling is night and day. I don't see a need to introduce an AIO or water cooling system that I have to worry about when replacing a fan on a cooler is a 5 minute job.
AIO have come a long long way, I use it in 3 out of 4 of my home machines, but the ones I build for clients are all air cooled. Even though I've got AIOs that have lasted over 3 years, there is a much higher chance that an aio fails. And customers would rather have long term reliability for most systems.
I had Puget Systems build me computer for doing mostly photoshop work that was quiet and they did a fantastic job. Not only is the computer much faster than my Apple tower, it is so much quieter and runs a lot cooler. The Apple Tower sounded like a jet plane when creating jpgs from nef files and would take 40 minutes. My new computer does the same job with very little fan noise and only 12 mins. The Apple tower produced enough heat to heat my office. I now have to have a small oil heater in my office if it is in the negative degrees. They support team is wonderful to work with.
i love puget systems bench for davinci resolve! this was insightful and one day maybe PC will be better than my mac studio, likely 5090 GPU in 18 months!
I find it a bit scary that the people complaining about air cooling are the same people "savvy" enough to use liquid. Yet they aren't intelligent enough to understand that normal people just want a system that works and will keep working. Liquid cooler is a big point of failure.
Can I get Windows 10 Pro keys and use them while installing a new Windows 11 Pro copy? If yes, that sounds like a fantastic bargain. Appreciate your response.
I built my own system…which I just configured on their site…it cost me $2,000 to build myself…and it would have cost $5,100 for them…and I get that I’m not “their customer “…because I have time to build myself and actually enjoy it….so the savings of $3,000 makes me feel good….but on another note…even though intel and AMD say you can run these cpus at 95 degrees….i don’t trust them …and lowered my 7900x to 75 degrees in the bios…and only lost a tiny bit of performance according to the benchmarks….
Thanks for this interesting and insightful interview. I don’t work in the tech industry, but unsurprisingly there are so many common business principles involved across different industries when one is generating output and earning a living from doing that.
@gosman949 A search for Puget doesn't bring it up. What search did you use? Also, my point was to TN to include a link to his video that he mentioned as that benefits him and his channel, and shows consideration to his viewers.
I agree with Matt from Puget, I upgraded to an i9 13900k with 96gb DDR 5 Ram and Quiet PC air cooler and 4070ti. I use it for video editing and gaming, no point in liquid cooling. And yes my old PC is a i7 4790k, where as I did a fresh install for Windows 11 Pro.
I am sort of in the same boat as you but don't really know PC parts like that, so I have been doing research and stumbled upon this video, I am a photographer that is looking to build a new PC that can run lightroom classic effortlessly but also use it for gaming at the same time. Do you have any recommendations or advice? (i am on a 2,000$ budget)
Can the team at Pugent please look at developing benchmarks for Capture One? I'm presuming that they haven't done it as it's to hard for the user base or the API is not really setup for that, so I understand. But I still want it. 😀
One thing not a lot of people talk about with Apple is they put all of their eggs in one basket. I have 5 iMacs sitting in a storage room that do not work due to graphics problems (I believe caused by overheating). Replacing the entire motherboard for a video card problem is often not worth it when compared to a new machine.
I'm not sure if you asked him about Intel vs AMD CPU with the igpu uses in premiere pro, that's a huge benefit of going with Intel for Premiere Pro users.
reagarding dual socket and high core count single cpus . Density and the licensing cost is really and issue. First of all its crazy expensive to create a bigger server room :) i work with a 3d and vfx studio and if you add up the software and plugin costs you have to pay for 2 or 3 systems instead of 1. a 10k usd cpu basically pays for itself in the first year :)
Not sure why people still doing this, buying systems, is 2024 all the info you need is out there, just build your own, there is nothing this companies do, that you can not do yourself, save your money
This fighting 300+W CPUs with biggest AiOs and airflow cases seems to me default, but so strange approach. AiO in the system, noise needed to cool 300W, room heating... Powerlimit e.g. 13900K to PL1=PL2=200W and you will loose ~10% performance in the most multicore workloads. In others, so majority, it will be at best few %. Do these losses really make a difference to somebody? If it's simple thinking of "getting all what you paid for", it just sucks hard to me.
just be smart, have a computer with thunderbolt, and buy a dock, then you can put it, in another room. ive been doing that since thunderbolt 2 on a asus board like 11 years? i think Z87 deluxe quad.
They are a great source of data; however, the prices are outrageous. Institutions can pay those amounts usually; however, the lone or grad student can achieve so much more with less. In addition, Ubuntu as an option is just gross. Go full Debian and not have to worry about upgrade hell I do get it for those just wanting to plug and play. If you are doing AI, you are probably good under the hood.
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The amount of time and dedication Puget Systems put to their systems are next to insane level! Not to mention the support afterwards. Plus I also appreciate the tests they do with various CPUs and GPUs that literally a benchmark for creators. Just AWESOME!
Thanks for the WIndows key discount btw 😉
I totally agree with the air cooling stance, my workstation is a tool to work on and earn money. Reliability is my number one requirement, if a fan fails it is a 5 minute fix, water cooling is a rabbit hole for wasting time when something goes wrong. AIO benefits for my workloads are so tiny when compared to 24 hour operation and reliability.
I agree as well. Water cooling introduces risk into the system. When you need a box to run all day and night on long jobs, consumer grade water cooling is not the way to go IMO.
This exactly. To be fair consumer water cooling is a lot better than it used to be but the difference between consumer and DC water cooling is night and day. I don't see a need to introduce an AIO or water cooling system that I have to worry about when replacing a fan on a cooler is a 5 minute job.
AIO have come a long long way, I use it in 3 out of 4 of my home machines, but the ones I build for clients are all air cooled.
Even though I've got AIOs that have lasted over 3 years, there is a much higher chance that an aio fails. And customers would rather have long term reliability for most systems.
I had Puget Systems build me computer for doing mostly photoshop work that was quiet and they did a fantastic job. Not only is the computer much faster than my Apple tower, it is so much quieter and runs a lot cooler. The Apple Tower sounded like a jet plane when creating jpgs from nef files and would take 40 minutes. My new computer does the same job with very little fan noise and only 12 mins. The Apple tower produced enough heat to heat my office. I now have to have a small oil heater in my office if it is in the negative degrees. They support team is wonderful to work with.
Amazing video buddy, Thanks for telling about Whokeys!
Great content! I'd like to see more interviews/discussions like this with other tech/industry folks. Thanks man!
i love puget systems bench for davinci resolve! this was insightful and one day maybe PC will be better than my mac studio, likely 5090 GPU in 18 months!
I remember when Puget Systems wasn't really that big back in the early 2010's. They've come a long way.
I find it a bit scary that the people complaining about air cooling are the same people "savvy" enough to use liquid. Yet they aren't intelligent enough to understand that normal people just want a system that works and will keep working. Liquid cooler is a big point of failure.
Can I get Windows 10 Pro keys and use them while installing a new Windows 11 Pro copy? If yes, that sounds like a fantastic bargain. Appreciate your response.
I gain useful information every time I have watched you channel
I built my own system…which I just configured on their site…it cost me $2,000 to build myself…and it would have cost $5,100 for them…and I get that I’m not “their customer “…because I have time to build myself and actually enjoy it….so the savings of $3,000 makes me feel good….but on another note…even though intel and AMD say you can run these cpus at 95 degrees….i don’t trust them …and lowered my 7900x to 75 degrees in the bios…and only lost a tiny bit of performance according to the benchmarks….
If only Apple could enjoy that kind of profit on their computers. My Apple stock would be soaring even more than it is now!
They do...
Professional workflow requires reliability, and we all know which kind of cooling solution is more reliable.
Thanks for this interesting and insightful interview. I don’t work in the tech industry, but unsurprisingly there are so many common business principles involved across different industries when one is generating output and earning a living from doing that.
Great video and thanks for the windows discount!
superb content! really enjoyed! thanks for the great tip on cheap MS Office and Windows keys!
Do you have a link to the previous video with Matt? Thaks
just do a search within the channel and you will find it 2 months back.
@gosman949 A search for Puget doesn't bring it up. What search did you use? Also, my point was to TN to include a link to his video that he mentioned as that benefits him and his channel, and shows consideration to his viewers.
Awesome! can you post the link for the part 1 of this? It's kinda hard to find in the videos. Thank you!
I agree with Matt from Puget, I upgraded to an i9 13900k with 96gb DDR 5 Ram and Quiet PC air cooler and 4070ti. I use it for video editing and gaming, no point in liquid cooling. And yes my old PC is a i7 4790k, where as I did a fresh install for Windows 11 Pro.
I have both same system ! But I upgrade to i7 13700k , the i7 4790k was a incredible cpu .
Yeah, the i7 4790k was the rage 9 years ago! But I love my i9 13900k! Wow, i7 13700k is a big update :)@@NAM3L3555
I am sort of in the same boat as you but don't really know PC parts like that, so I have been doing research and stumbled upon this video, I am a photographer that is looking to build a new PC that can run lightroom classic effortlessly but also use it for gaming at the same time. Do you have any recommendations or advice? (i am on a 2,000$ budget)
For any photography based PC upgrade. I'd say i7 14th gen. Nvidia 4060/4070. When it comes out. M.2 drives. @@thekid12-k8z
@@thekid12-k8z With that budget, leave this video immediately and go to Dell computer.
Great vid, lots of information! 👍🏻 I'm still waiting for the RTX 4070 vs 4080 video. Hopefully you'll release it soon. 🤞🏻
Can the team at Pugent please look at developing benchmarks for Capture One? I'm presuming that they haven't done it as it's to hard for the user base or the API is not really setup for that, so I understand. But I still want it. 😀
i like this key window 10
That chair looks like it gives you a "Lobot" cyborg look.
One thing not a lot of people talk about with Apple is they put all of their eggs in one basket. I have 5 iMacs sitting in a storage room that do not work due to graphics problems (I believe caused by overheating). Replacing the entire motherboard for a video card problem is often not worth it when compared to a new machine.
best pc, i like windows 10
Tech Notice, thanks for the great tip on cheap MS Office and Windows keys!
I'm not sure if you asked him about Intel vs AMD CPU with the igpu uses in premiere pro, that's a huge benefit of going with Intel for Premiere Pro users.
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reagarding dual socket and high core count single cpus . Density and the licensing cost is really and issue. First of all its crazy expensive to create a bigger server room :) i work with a 3d and vfx studio and if you add up the software and plugin costs you have to pay for 2 or 3 systems instead of 1. a 10k usd cpu basically pays for itself in the first year :)
Not sure why people still doing this, buying systems, is 2024 all the info you need is out there, just build your own, there is nothing this companies do, that you can not do yourself, save your money
great content
This fighting 300+W CPUs with biggest AiOs and airflow cases seems to me default, but so strange approach. AiO in the system, noise needed to cool 300W, room heating... Powerlimit e.g. 13900K to PL1=PL2=200W and you will loose ~10% performance in the most multicore workloads. In others, so majority, it will be at best few %. Do these losses really make a difference to somebody? If it's simple thinking of "getting all what you paid for", it just sucks hard to me.
I'd wager that it's more aesthetics than % gains outside of 13900/14900
I am from Pakistan, I watch your channel regularly and I gained a lot of knowledge regarding processors and GPUs.
Respect from Pakistan.
just be smart, have a computer with thunderbolt, and buy a dock, then you can put it, in another room. ive been doing that since thunderbolt 2 on a asus board like 11 years? i think Z87 deluxe quad.
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They are a great source of data; however, the prices are outrageous. Institutions can pay those amounts usually; however, the lone or grad student can achieve so much more with less. In addition, Ubuntu as an option is just gross. Go full Debian and not have to worry about upgrade hell
I do get it for those just wanting to plug and play. If you are doing AI, you are probably good under the hood.
damn imma upgrade my pc with thar cheap keysfan code
Nice promo 💵💵💵💵
Puget systems with Linux? Blender 1.5x faster on Ubuntu, so why not?
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First at what?
@@kaydawgy1999 1st comment.
@@gosman949 ok but what does that mean
@@kaydawgy1999 he was the first to comment after the video aired.