Great video. My preferred method is to drill holes to the desired depth before ripping the wood. This guarantees a perfect alignment and would avoid the slight visible misalignment seen @ 9:01
Thanks, I cut the slots to allow for side to side movement, once they are slid together they can be perfected side to side and the joint is virtually invisible.
I made a shelf using this method before, also put a channel in the lower part with LED strips and acrylic lens. Turned out great and has held up really well.
I just started woodworking and I love your videos. You explain everything very thoroughly and I love to see you involving your kids. Thanks for this video and keep it up!
Hello just seeing your comment, thanks so much I am glad he has the interest for sure! We are currently working on the boat build videos we have been filming the last year has been fun to do that together also. Will be launched fairly soon!
Loved the video, I'd like to see if you have any tips or guidelines for kitchen installation, I would pretty nervous of hitting electrical or plumbing when driving that big of a screw in a kitchen. Kitchen build videos have a ton of views, but I feel that kitchen installation hasn't really been covered well. And not just for how to install cabinets correctly, but also things like end panels, trim, crown, scribing, etc. I have seen many comments on cabinet videos of people who have never heard of end panels, they think that carcasses have to be pocket screwed or else the screws will be visible.
There is a chance of more being in a wall in a kitchen without a doubt. I will be doing a video in the next few weeks or so about a tool that can help out with that. Stay tuned!
It's rock solid using the method shown, you could take it to even stronger by placing some dominos vertical as well but I have never felt it needed it. It's very sturdy.
3 1/2 inch screws would reduce the amount of screw that went into the stud but would work. If you didn't have access to 5 inch screws you could reduce the size of the back section by an inch so you had more screw going into the wall stud. Hope that helps.
@ thank you! I can get the 5 inch screws, but I’m concerned about the depth. Since I’d like to cut them at 2 inches and the drywall is a half inch and the studs are 2x4 (1.5 x 3.5). A 5 inch screw would leave only an inch left in the stud. Would that weaken it?
Good question, but no would not weaken it at all, there are regularly knots in stud walls larger than that for example. Another example is if you took a 2x4 and put a screw all the way through it, it would not be any easier to break it, would retain its strength as the fibers all run continuous from top to bottom, its like a thousands of straws tied together in a stack and the screw is just piercing one of them.
Fun fact, I have a full size powermatic 66 5 HP cabinet saw next to me in that video but I just love this saw, push the button to adjust angle, blade height and even has a slider. It works great on a job site or in my shop. If I need to cut a full sheet I am using the track saw so this saw is perfect for most of the work I do.
@@fultonfinewoodworks I remember you had a real table in some of your other videos I thought because now that your a multi millionaire you sold your cabinet saw! I am 65 work full time as a finish carpenter and just did a bunch of those shelf’s @ 2.5” thick with the finish ply trick. I do hv a domino and will try this!! I use a DeWalt contractor saw on site w/a Gold medal tenayur blade (slaughter the name I know) . I find that saw is tough , dead on and I really don’t mind adjusting stuff ? I know I can know it over pick it up and it cuts the same! Knock that over there goes $25,000 !
And I work because I love to work and keeps me healthy and fit! I retired from my 1st career and I am ok? I hv been a carpenter (pro) 15 yrs now and hv no plans to quit , get fat , and drop dead on the couch watching Jerry Springer!
Great video! I heard you mention this on the podcast recently. I have some floating shelves to do soon as well so it was great timing. Do you think the Domino 500 can plunge enough for this kind of shelf? In my application they are just for some pictures so I think I'll be ok.
I do think the 500 could pull it off what I would do different is plunge less on the wall side and glue that side in so you can use more on the wider shelf side. You could also greatly increase the strength by doing vertical tenons on each side if that makes sense. (Another way to explain instead of landscape format you change the domino to portrait mode) - you also could use a little more of them to add to the strength.
6:55 "... the hardware is generally very expensive.....and just not needed" And the DF700 is a cheaper route? Alternative route but not a comparison in costs unless you were install a gazillion shelves or justify the $1,700+ for other reasons. Looks good and yes, I am a Festool junkie. Nice to see a father/son combo in woodworking....or anything else. JimE
All the minwax stains I’ve used off-gas for hours and I can’t imagine throwing a party in a room with curing stain. Do you have a trick for speeding up the drying process or was it pretty strong odor during the party?
I put a very light coat on and it was dry but the time we installed them a few hours later, the homeowner was going to install the clear coat after the Christmas party - I normally don't use minwax but that was the matching product I prefer Rubio Monocoat no smell, durable and 0 off gassing it's a linseed oil based product
Was literally considering doing this exact thing with my Domino XL on some white oak ply floating shelves. Do you feel this hold up well enough to support a reasonable amount of weight? few bottles, glasses, plates? on a 8-10" shelf?
It's safe to say it easily will support anything normal that you would place on a shelf. It's very very strong I like to place the dominos on the upper third so there is more flat contact below in the shelf seam for even more support.
2 x 12s will work fine I usually see 10" for shelf depth max though, I would make sure they wanted 12 however, is there something specific they want to place on there to make them the extra width?
@@fultonfinewoodworks thanks for the reply. They wanted them to hold plates so they wanted the deeper shelf. After speaking with them they decided the 2x10 would be the better option but thank you for your answer it’s appreciated
Sorry just seeing Festool Domino is the tool and Kreg just launched a lower priced version, not sure it will work or not but they said it cuts tenons as well.
Cool method! Check out my edgeband method! This includes the purchase of metal brackets, but it’s a cool plywood method where you can make multiple from 1 sheet.
I like the idea, but buying the "expensive hardware" for this project would be much less money than the festool jointer and tenons for a one off project...
@fultonfinewoodworks Thanks for replying. I wasn't trying to give a negative vibe I guess I just missed that part. I think I will try the dowels or just long screws in pocket holes. I'm trying to do "L".shaped floating shelves in a corner and that completes things install wise.
@@fultonfinewoodworks I must have missed that part. Thank you. I will give that a try. Cutting and using the same board really is a great method compared to what I’ve seen on TH-cam for making floating shelves.
There are alternatives to this tool, a dowel jig and you could even have pocket screws from the top of the shelf that connect to the strip attached to the wall. All of these methods will also eliminate the requirement of the hardware.
@fultonfinewoodworks Thank you. I'll try the dowels even though I have the Kreg pocket jig, I think the dowel will be more secure. Again thanks for your reply.
You must not of paid full attention - I recall clearly saying you could pull off the same concept using dowels and a drill and a doweling jig for a much lower cost - thanks for watching
super clever idea using the domino to make shelves like this! nice work ronnie 👍
Thanks! It works great and is incredibly strong!
Great video. My preferred method is to drill holes to the desired depth before ripping the wood. This guarantees a perfect alignment and would avoid the slight visible misalignment seen @ 9:01
Thanks, I cut the slots to allow for side to side movement, once they are slid together they can be perfected side to side and the joint is virtually invisible.
I made a shelf using this method before, also put a channel in the lower part with LED strips and acrylic lens. Turned out great and has held up really well.
I just started woodworking and I love your videos. You explain everything very thoroughly and I love to see you involving your kids. Thanks for this video and keep it up!
Hello just seeing your comment, thanks so much I am glad he has the interest for sure! We are currently working on the boat build videos we have been filming the last year has been fun to do that together also. Will be launched fairly soon!
Nice little project. Very interesting to see how far you’ve come with your videos, as well. Precious that you get to work with your son. ❤️
Thanks- so excited he will be working with me half days next year during the school year. It's officially approved!
@@fultonfinewoodworks That’s awesome. I’m happy for ya. That should speed up the boat build. 😊
Yes, nice! And you could just drill the holes for dowels to a given depth, with a screw driver, before ripping to avoid any expensive tool or jig.
Correct the principle could be used with a dowel jig as well
Yea, and will actually be more accurate. I can see the edge of the first shelf is slightly misaligned @ 9:01
Thank you so much for sharing. Nice to see a father and son working together 🤙🏼.
Beautiful job man.
Hi. I enjoyed your video. Would like to know the size of the tenons used and the distance between. Planning to do 4 9 x 10 Many thanks.
Loved the video, I'd like to see if you have any tips or guidelines for kitchen installation, I would pretty nervous of hitting electrical or plumbing when driving that big of a screw in a kitchen. Kitchen build videos have a ton of views, but I feel that kitchen installation hasn't really been covered well. And not just for how to install cabinets correctly, but also things like end panels, trim, crown, scribing, etc. I have seen many comments on cabinet videos of people who have never heard of end panels, they think that carcasses have to be pocket screwed or else the screws will be visible.
There is a chance of more being in a wall in a kitchen without a doubt. I will be doing a video in the next few weeks or so about a tool that can help out with that. Stay tuned!
Note - I will be covering some of the other topics you mentioned in upcoming videos as well
Dang, this was actually pretty cool!
could you just countersink the shelf using a really long drill bit and skip all the tennons and machining?
Sorry for nit picking, 8:20 is a lag bolt not a toggle bolt. Otherwise a good video and idea
amazing and simple
Do you ever preload the shelf for heavy bowls, pottery and like?
I have built a lot of them using this method, they can take as much weight of items that will fit on them with no sag.
@ Michelle expensive collection of pottery? ..HEAVY HEAVY
It's rock solid using the method shown, you could take it to even stronger by placing some dominos vertical as well but I have never felt it needed it. It's very sturdy.
What is the name of the magnet to find the stud?
I use a "rare earth" magnet - they see super strong
Are 5 inch screws necessary or will 3 1/2 inch work as well? Does that reduce the weight capacity?
3 1/2 inch screws would reduce the amount of screw that went into the stud but would work. If you didn't have access to 5 inch screws you could reduce the size of the back section by an inch so you had more screw going into the wall stud. Hope that helps.
@ thank you! I can get the 5 inch screws, but I’m concerned about the depth. Since I’d like to cut them at 2 inches and the drywall is a half inch and the studs are 2x4 (1.5 x 3.5). A 5 inch screw would leave only an inch left in the stud. Would that weaken it?
Good question, but no would not weaken it at all, there are regularly knots in stud walls larger than that for example. Another example is if you took a 2x4 and put a screw all the way through it, it would not be any easier to break it, would retain its strength as the fibers all run continuous from top to bottom, its like a thousands of straws tied together in a stack and the screw is just piercing one of them.
Sanding is the best part
Does that table saw come in adult sizes?
Fun fact, I have a full size powermatic 66 5 HP cabinet saw next to me in that video but I just love this saw, push the button to adjust angle, blade height and even has a slider. It works great on a job site or in my shop. If I need to cut a full sheet I am using the track saw so this saw is perfect for most of the work I do.
@@fultonfinewoodworks I remember you had a real table in some of your other videos I thought because now that your a multi millionaire you sold your cabinet saw!
I am 65 work full time as a finish carpenter and just did a bunch of those shelf’s @ 2.5” thick with the finish ply trick. I do hv a domino and will try this!!
I use a DeWalt contractor saw on site w/a Gold medal tenayur blade (slaughter the name I know) .
I find that saw is tough , dead on and I really don’t mind adjusting stuff ? I know I can know it over pick it up and it cuts the same!
Knock that over there goes $25,000 !
And I work because I love to work and keeps me healthy and fit! I retired from my 1st career and I am ok? I hv been a carpenter (pro) 15 yrs now and hv no plans to quit , get fat , and drop dead on the couch watching Jerry Springer!
Great video! I heard you mention this on the podcast recently. I have some floating shelves to do soon as well so it was great timing. Do you think the Domino 500 can plunge enough for this kind of shelf? In my application they are just for some pictures so I think I'll be ok.
I do think the 500 could pull it off what I would do different is plunge less on the wall side and glue that side in so you can use more on the wider shelf side. You could also greatly increase the strength by doing vertical tenons on each side if that makes sense. (Another way to explain instead of landscape format you change the domino to portrait mode) - you also could use a little more of them to add to the strength.
I just figured out what you meant by portrait mode. :)
6:55 "... the hardware is generally very expensive.....and just not needed" And the DF700 is a cheaper route?
Alternative route but not a comparison in costs unless you were install a gazillion shelves or justify the $1,700+ for other reasons.
Looks good and yes, I am a Festool junkie.
Nice to see a father/son combo in woodworking....or anything else. JimE
I do point out that the same concept could be pulled off with a simple drill guide and dowel, it's just easier and faster to use the domino for sure.
@@fultonfinewoodworks Go Domino! Love it.
All the minwax stains I’ve used off-gas for hours and I can’t imagine throwing a party in a room with curing stain. Do you have a trick for speeding up the drying process or was it pretty strong odor during the party?
I put a very light coat on and it was dry but the time we installed them a few hours later, the homeowner was going to install the clear coat after the Christmas party - I normally don't use minwax but that was the matching product I prefer Rubio Monocoat no smell, durable and 0 off gassing it's a linseed oil based product
Was literally considering doing this exact thing with my Domino XL on some white oak ply floating shelves. Do you feel this hold up well enough to support a reasonable amount of weight? few bottles, glasses, plates? on a 8-10" shelf?
It's safe to say it easily will support anything normal that you would place on a shelf. It's very very strong I like to place the dominos on the upper third so there is more flat contact below in the shelf seam for even more support.
I wanted to do with for a customer with 2x12s would weight be an issue with a 2x12?
2 x 12s will work fine I usually see 10" for shelf depth max though, I would make sure they wanted 12 however, is there something specific they want to place on there to make them the extra width?
@@fultonfinewoodworks thanks for the reply. They wanted them to hold plates so they wanted the deeper shelf. After speaking with them they decided the 2x10 would be the better option but thank you for your answer it’s appreciated
Beginner here whats the tool he used to make the the tenins?
Sorry just seeing Festool Domino is the tool and Kreg just launched a lower priced version, not sure it will work or not but they said it cuts tenons as well.
How much weight can it hold?
A lot more than will ever be placed on it, 75 pounds at least as a light as estimate but would not be surprised to see it hold 150 to 200
Brilliant
I love your cat & dog helpers ❤
Cool method!
Check out my edgeband method! This includes the purchase of metal brackets, but it’s a cool plywood method where you can make multiple from 1 sheet.
would you pls post a link to edgeband method ... cheers
Its easy to make them when you have a shop,show me a video making them in your garage without the expensive tools,or at customer's garage!!
All of my tools are portable, could be made in a driveway. That's how I started, and it's fine it just matters more when it rains.
I like the idea, but buying the "expensive hardware" for this project would be much less money than the festool jointer and tenons for a one off project...
That's why I point out in the video that the exact same method could be used but using dowels and a drill press or drill guide
@fultonfinewoodworks
Thanks for replying. I wasn't trying to give a negative vibe I guess I just missed that part. I think I will try the dowels or just long screws in pocket holes. I'm trying to do "L".shaped floating shelves in a corner and that completes things install wise.
I think you meant most people do NOt have these extremely expensive tools.
This is why I mentioned the same concept can be accomplished by using a dowels and a drill which most DIY people have easy access
A cheap method with very expensive equipment.
It's why I say same method can be used using wooden dowels and a drill, this is just faster
@@fultonfinewoodworks I must have missed that part. Thank you. I will give that a try. Cutting and using the same board really is a great method compared to what I’ve seen on TH-cam for making floating shelves.
Pointless whining
Inexpensive hardware but a VERY EXPENSIVE tool.
There are alternatives to this tool, a dowel jig and you could even have pocket screws from the top of the shelf that connect to the strip attached to the wall. All of these methods will also eliminate the requirement of the hardware.
@fultonfinewoodworks Thank you. I'll try the dowels even though I have the Kreg pocket jig, I think the dowel will be more secure.
Again thanks for your reply.
like any great artist, delivered wet! 😎
Ha ha so true!
that seam doesn't go away its quite blatantly obvious, not a great method,.
It actually is close to invisible because the grain matches exact, let me know if a better method, always open to new ideas
@@fultonfinewoodworks I think better method would be to drill the holes to the desired length before ripping the wood.
Unless you have the green tool ,you’re screwed . You should have made that very clear . You get a down thumb due to lack of transparency
You must not of paid full attention - I recall clearly saying you could pull off the same concept using dowels and a drill and a doweling jig for a much lower cost - thanks for watching
You must be constipated
Struggling with constipation?
You don't know how to use a table saw or a sander, I can't watch anymore
I encourage you to post a video showing the correct way, can't wait to learn from you