One pedal is awesome once you get used to it. I judge my stops way ahead and get lots of charge. In the city my range actually goes up on occasion. I will try the sports mode on the highway though. It would be nice to coast at high speeds.
If your range is going up either you are driving downhill or the computer is not calculating all that accurately. Regenerative braking is good but you are lucky if you can capture 60% of the potential energy in the battery. If your battery is at 20% state of charge the battery will accept more energy than at 80% state of charge.
I love one pedal drive. I haven’t used sport mode much. I like one pedal drive because I never ever use my brake pedal to come to a complete stop. My brake pedal is only used to change gears, park, reverse and drive.
My wife loves 1 pedal drive too, and I have to tell you it’s not a bad way to go once you get used to it. I did a newer video comparing all of the modes (link below) So in my experience you can leave on 1pedal drive and turn on sport mode and get the 2nd best overall efficiency. 1st=sport mode (1pedal OFF) 2nd= sport mode (1pedal ON) 3rd = Normal (1pedal ON) 4th = Normal (1pedal OFF) Ford Lightning - 1 Pedal Drive vs Sport Mode - Winter Range Test th-cam.com/video/tjgFYQS1Aj8/w-d-xo.html
I have driven EVs since 2012 starting with a Ford Focus Electric, on to BMW i3’s and now with my Lightning. In over 200,000 miles of driving, I have had the best range using one pedal. In 31,000 in my ‘23 Platinum and a 3500 mile trip from LA to Seattle, back to Tuscon and back home to LA I have settled on Sport Mode One Pedal. My daily commute is 90 miles to work and home. Without one pedal the average is 2.3 going and 1.9 coming. With Sport Mode one pedal it’s 2.6 and 2.2. If I use 65% streets it’s 2.9 2.5. My lifetime average sits at 2.1 because of the freeway mileage. Long freeway trips reduce greatly regen and pushing this brick through air at 70+ mph kills range. I try to use 69 as my goal but people end up making you drive and kill your Zen. Regardless the Lightning is real good at regen so to not maximize it is to give away kW’s.
Great information, just got a 2024 Flash and need all the help I can get . You are a smart fella for a Cowboy fan 🤠. I will be testing your method ona trip from Sacramento to Las Vegas in a few weeks. Again great job at breaking down the different modes.
Thanks! Smart for a cowboy fan … lol Keep in mind you will notice more range savings with sport doing normal everyday driving. You may not see as much on trips with straight highway driving, but I still use it. Also, turn off propower on board when you are not using it, and that will save some range too. Here’s a more recent video I did testing out all of the modes: Ford Lightning - 1 Pedal Drive vs Sport Mode - Winter Range Test th-cam.com/video/tjgFYQS1Aj8/w-d-xo.html
That is a very good point. Some people like it. I’ve just tested it several times and every time I get better mi/kw with just sport mode, so yes I agree with you it takes less effort for the other modes.
I am on my 3rd EV with having just got my Lightning. I am so used to one pedal driving but I can see how sport mode with no one pedal for road trips would get better range. On road trips I also fold my mirrors for better range.
One Pedal Drive works best for me- but with a soft pedal- I never let off all the way until I want to stop. Lifetime is 2.5 miles/kWh. I can get 3.5 miles/kWh driving around town- always one pedal. It would be interesting to do a real test under controlled conditions. For some people who don't have the soft touch on the one pedal the other modes might work better. The Ioniq 5 has paddles so the driver can set the amount of regen- some youTubers have done some testing with different amounts of regen up to and including one pedal.
This is really good info. Yeah I need to do some more apples to apples comparison on it, but my thought would be doing it where you’re not really thinking about it you’re not trying to get better miles per kilowatt. You’re just driving and doing the same test both ways on the same roads. I have a pretty good route that I can use for the test that I’ve used before. It’s a good combination of city, two-lane highway, and interstate.
Thank you. I think Sport mode gets me more range because it applies more regenerative braking every time I let off the accelerator without me having to think about it as much as I would using one pedal driving.
What I want is max regen on lifting off the accelerator, without blending the brakes in unless you press the brake pedal. Unfortunately it seems Ford doesn't offer that option. It seems that a portion of the regen is only available on the brake pedal unless in one pedal mode, and in both those cases you have no control over how much is regen vs how much is friction brakes.
It is correct you don’t have control over it. You do have something called “brake coach” that shows you how much of the braking was regen, which is very helpful. And it basically trains you over time how much to apply the brake in each mode before the brake pads are used.
Great video and love the mountains in the background. I also drive without one pedal. That was one huge difference between lightning and a rivian as the rivian has one pedal only. Ford lightning braking system is very smooth and I cannot tell when the friction brakes are blended in.
That’s funny. Yeah the range is not an issue for me because I like that I don’t have to stop at gas stations at all when I drive around town. I just go home and plug it in and it’s ready to go again in the morning.
@@F150LightningMike PLUG IT IN DURING POWER OUTAGE LOL THE ONLY GOOD TRUCK IS THE RAMCHARGER 690 MILLES OF RANGE WITH 3.6 LITER PENTASTAR RANGE EXTENDER DRIVE ALMOST 200 MILES ON BATTERY ALONE BEFORE ENGINE KICKS IN TO RECHARGE BATTERY AND THAT V6 HAS NO CONNECTION TO THE WHEELS ONLY USED AS RANGE EXTENDER FOR BATTERY THIS TRUCK MAKES ALL OTHER EV TRUCKS OBSOLETE INCLUDING TESLA CYBERTRUCK. th-cam.com/video/VOlNLMEB6Mc/w-d-xo.html
Agree with you. Converting kinetic energy of coasting into battery power with regen braking is obviously not 100% efficient. Converting energy types is never 100%. You're better off coasting as much as you can and finding that sweet spot of braking so you are only using regen braking to stop. Stomping on the brake pedal is just making heat and wasting your range.
I did a pretty good comparison of all 4 modes in this video: Ford Lightning - 1 Pedal Drive vs Sport Mode - Winter Range Test th-cam.com/video/tjgFYQS1Aj8/w-d-xo.html
I think you've got this backward. In my opinion, it seems more efficient to coast WITHOUT regen. Moving energy into and out of the battery incurs losses every time.
Thank you for your comment. You are not the only one that has said that normal with coasting makes more sense that it’s better. Some have said 1 pedal is better. While I’m sure that in some scenarios you might be correct, I ended up doing a more detailed test comparing all 4 modes (normal vs sport) both with 1 pedal drive on and off. Let me know what you think. Ford Lightning - 1 Pedal Drive vs Sport Mode - Winter Range Test th-cam.com/video/tjgFYQS1Aj8/w-d-xo.html
A scientist would say leave the object in motion until it needs to be acted upon by an external slowing force. Regen is 60-70% efficient. If you can drive in normal mode and consistently hit 100% on the braking coach it makes logical sense that would be best, going further distance with less regen. Sport mode is interesting for towing as it is really easy to get into the brake pad with normal mode pulling a trailer. Lots of people out there accelerating even as they approach a red light. One pedal best for them.
I’m going to do some more testing. It’s surprising how many people argue about this. I tried sport mode one day off of a suggestion and it looked like to me to get better overall mi/kWh so I’ve stuck with it except for these test.
I have a question. What is the difference between normal mode and sport mode in an EV ??? I'm getting my f150 ligthning XLT extended range in the beginning of march, but I still don't know what is the use of sport mode. Sorry, I'm new with this technologie 🙂
Sport mode is better because it initiates more regenerative braking without you having to use the brake pedal as much as in normal mode. It’s also less “whiplashy” than the 1-pedal drive mode is. Sport mode does other things too, like making the steering a little more responsive. I hope that answers your question.
We test drove a 2024 Lightning yesterday in Austin. Bought it and picking it up tomorrow. Our 1st EV. Can't wait! Loved the one pedal driving! Better than the Model Y we test drove. Elon Musk is a Nazi. Not a penny from us.
@@Per1Patet1c it tows better than any F-150 I’ve ever towed with and I’ve bought 4 F-150s brand new. Sure you don’t have as much range on one charge but it’s not been a problem with the distance I tow.
But you slow down harder and faster, thus won't it take more energy to get back to speed? Also, Ford used regen braking when you step on the break until you need to stop fast, at which time it will use the physical braks..... Just my thoughts....
With sport mode you don’t slow down too much harder. Just a little bit and you end up gaining more energy for the batteries than just using normal. The point with the video is to show that it just works better for me.
If your in town and come up to lights every mile or half mile, letting off the gas pedal in one pedal driving is just like braking as you approach a light, but it regenerates more power than just stepping on the brake pedal with one pedal driving turned off. One pedal is much more efficient around town.
So if you can’t learn 1 pedal driving how did you drive manual? There’s a learning curve but I got it after a few stops to just let go easy and now I’m not even thinking about it
1 pedal drive is easy. I just call it whiplash mode because when people are learning it jerks them around. Sport mode however has gotten better kWh mileage for me.
Nope you have to set it each time. Normally you get an alert each time you start asking if you want to return to sport mode and you just need to click ok.
I finally got a Lightning and for sure sport mode does more regen braking than normal mode. Sport mode feels heavy and more brakey and torquey which had me wondering if it will wear the tires more? Or maybe if I am easy on the accelerator it will wear the tires as much as normal mode? 🤔
Those are good questions I’m not sure I have a good answer, but I do know that if you have the same hankook dynapro at2 tires as mine that the recommended Psi of 36 is too low. It wore down too quickly on the outside edge of the tires. I had them evaluated at Good year and they are saying that it should be about 40-42 psi. I met a guy that had over 26k on his and they looked new. He said he kept them at about 39-40
Sure thing. Let me know if you have any other questions and I might make a video about it. There is one about how easy it is to charge at ChargePoint that is posting here at 9am mountain time. It is at a McDonald’s and the call it a “McFast Charger” :-) Then I’m working on a 1 year summary video as well as several others, but I’m open to ideas if you are curious about something. I even just bought a dashcam that I’m going to talk about soon too.
@@F150LightningMike Yeah my Michelins are set to 36 or 37 and as they heat up they go to 39. 36 is what the door sticker recommends. I’m pretty sure my Tacoma has a cold psi recommendation of 39. Maybe I should start creeping it up. Scratch that: the Taco sticker recommends 26-29 psi depending on tire size wow.
Yeah how I figured the manufacturer is getting away with it is the “cold pressure” recommendation. Who is defining what cold is? because in my experience the psi drops about 1 psi for every 10 degrees. It’s also weird in Colorado because when you go up and down in elevation a lot like me it changes tire pressure too about 1 psi for every 1,000 feet. Anyways I just have to find a good psi that works for me. So if they say 36 “cold”, then for me it works best if it’s 60degrees outside to set it to 42 psi. That way I’m over filling a little and it will be able flex a little when it’s cold.
I understand your logic sir, however, it’s been our experience that one pedal drive is by far the better way to drive electric vehicles. There is a learning curve that everyone does when switching to EV’s We have a few electric vehicles in our line up both Tesla’s S, X & 3 alone with 3 Ford Lighting’s and we are not scientists or mathematicians.
That’s funny. I might have been exaggerating a little bit on the scientist comment :-) Try sport mode for a few charges around town too and see what you think.
Thanks for this information! I test drove a Lightning about a year ago and then I test drove another one some weeks later and the second annoying 🙄 dealership worker had it on one pedal drive without explaining anything so of course I had no idea what was going on and he said “I thought you had already test driven a Lightning”. Needless to say I didn’t buy from that guy. I recently put a deposit on a Lightning and I will drive on sport 2 pedal drive mode 😅. I wouldn’t want to forget how to drive a normal car.
I use Sport mode with 1-pedal drive. It’s a skill, not a knowledge. It’s like riding a bike whereas no thinking involved. It doesn’t take long to get used to. I’d really like to see the option to make Sport mode my default mode.
Yeah it is really about learning how to drive with it, and having love to have it as a default as well. I keep hearing that it might come with a future update. I’m not sure if that’s just a rumor. Also, I’m not sure if you’ve seen it yet or not but here’s a video I did comparing the range of all four drive modes. Ford Lightning - 1 Pedal Drive vs Sport Mode - Winter Range Test th-cam.com/video/tjgFYQS1Aj8/w-d-xo.html
Of all the modes, undoubtedly, normal mode without 1 pedal would be the most efficient. The more you coast, the more efficient the drive. Regen is not as efficient as coasting. In reality, the driving mode does not matter at all because the driver has the ability to control the amount of regen at all times by varying pedal pressure. In fact, if you could coast (0% regen) to a stop every time you stopped, that would be the very most efficient, albeit impractical. Think of it in terms of physics. Let's say you use 1kW of energy to get up to speed and then coast to a stop in the span of 1 mile. If you did that same mile using regen, you would use 1.5kW for propulsion and maybe get .4kW back from regen for .1kW lower efficiency. I know those numbers aren't accurate. They are just for demonstration purposes, but the physics concept is solid. Try it out and see. If efficiency is your goal, shoot for as much coasting and as little regen as you can.
My info is based on my experience. Sport mode has been more efficient, but I will record an exact road test to show for sure comparing all of the modes with the same approx 100 mile drive.
the science and maths will bear this out too. doing the same work over the same route in the same truck, energy used will NOT be significantly different in different driving modes (with or without regen)
I guess not. You are correct that traffic is different everyday so it’s hard to compare, and granted I don’t think there is too much of a difference in modes if it’s all highway. I must be doing something wrong, But with a lot of mixed driving I do, sport mode ends up on top according to my trip meter every time.
im so glad i didnt bump into this video when you made it. Both one pedal drive and two pedal drive CAN have NO significant difference in effeciency over the other, over the long term. Put another way, driving 100 miles on a straight road on the same day, neither way of driving will produce more or less battery usage over the other. Driving up and down a long mountain pass, will also produce no significant difference between the two. Driving style is all that matters. These are the laws of physics. It's impossible to save energy or power or efficiency in either 1PD or 2PD, assuming you are doing the same work and same distance in either style. Its just physics,
Thanks for your comment. It doesn’t fully make sense to me why it works, but it does especially in the mountains where I live. I have heard from several others who use sport mode on a regular basis and it works for them too. Others that live in flatter areas say that normal or 1 pedal drive is best for them because they like to coast. Either way, because of that I made another video comparing all 4 efficiency modes in the Ford Lightning: Ford Lightning - 1 Pedal Drive vs Sport Mode - Winter Range Test th-cam.com/video/tjgFYQS1Aj8/w-d-xo.html
@@F150LightningMike It just doesnt, it may feel like one way of driving, sport mode vs 1Pd vs 2PD is more efficient than another on a particular day, but it just isnt. To prove this is really hard, because every route and every day is different. Speed and air resistance and driving style is all so over the map. But there is NO way to make one mode be more efficient than another. There is obviously a way to have one mode be LESS efficient, but not MORE efficient overall. Physics just does not work that way. There will be a minimum amount of energy used to go the same speed, the same route, the same day, with he same work being done in the same truck. In fact the energy used will be the same or not significantly different. Its just facts. One cannot create efficiency or create energy out of nothing.
Do you own a Lightning? Or an EV? You sound like you’re pretty smart, so I’m not saying you’re wrong. Maybe I’m saying it wrong. Maybe I should say that some modes are less efficiency than others, instead of some modes are more efficient than others. I may not know everything on this, but here’s what I have found to be true. No energy is being created. But the reality with an EV is that when you are slowing down it adds energy back into the batteries. How much energy depends on what mode you are in and how hard you are pressing on the brake, which doesn’t actually use the brake pads at first until it is needed. That energy which is some of the energy resulting from the motion of the car is returned back to the batteries for later use. Therefore the efficiency (or range) increases because that energy is reused. That’s also the reason an EV gets greater range driving around in town.
@@F150LightningMike You are correct in this. Every thing you say is right. But mostly, its this part that isnt correct. ALL the modes are equally efficient. IN THE LONG RUN. over a distance. There is not one mode that is more or less efficient than another. They all use the same energy to do the same trip or work. eventually. So it's mostly a case of averages. But yes, in a short trip, the energy added back by regen can make it 'seem' like it used less than if you did that trip in 2 pedal drive or sport mode. But it really isn't. for example, to drive 10km. To get that regen (in one pedal drive or sport mode) you have to use energy to get the speed to be able to use the regen. so you end up using a lot of energy to get up to a speed that can use lots of regen, SO you go the 10km in 20 minutes and use 10% of the battery If i drive that SAME 10km in two pedal drive, i'll drive using less energy to then coast to a stop at the end of the 10km. Also using 10%. I just used the energy in a different place or way. But same energy every time. Especially over long distances.
@@F150LightningMike And yes, ive driven my Lighning over 55K miles through two canadian winters and three summers, since August 2022, in 2 pedal drive, sport mode, (which is fun) and one pedal drive. Either way, its not the modes that determine efficiency on a trip. Its speeds, wind, cold, route etc etc.
It's best for highway, but I have found normal mode with one pedal driving is better around town. I have gotten over 3 miles per kwh around town with normal mode and one pedal driving.
Good to know. I’ve been hearing that it varies based on the type of terrain you drive in. Like here in Colorado Springs sport mode seems to still work best in town for me because of the constant change in elevation.
What I disliked about one peddle driving is that once you let off it will slow you down very fast and eventually to a stop which is what you want if only using one peddle. The sport mode just adds almost the same regentative, but as long as you are not using one peddle it is more normal driving and not bringing you down to a complete stop. I would use sport mode all the time unfortunately it will not stay as default when you turn off your truck. I only use one peddle when in stop and go traffic on the freeway, because it is very hard not to be too jerky with it.
Yeah I call 1-pedal drive “whiplash mode” for that reason. When I start my truck it gives me the option to go back into sport mode so I just click ok on the steering wheel. Also I heard they are going to be including that on a future update.
You are not wrong. Yes it’s not an on or off. My point with making this video is to show that regardless of all of that and even though 1-pedal drive is supposed to be more efficient than the others. It is not for me. Sport mode gets better efficiency. Not fully sure of the reason it just does. But I am working on another video where I am just driving in town and testing out all the different modes several different times taking the same route and seeing which one is more efficient in town. I’m even testing sport mode with one pedal drive on.
My favorite thing to do in stop and go traffic is to let adaptive cruise control do it for me! This complete lack of changing gears and mechanical torque converters etc is wonderfully smooth and infinitely more patient than I am!
Actually sport mode is best in most situations in my experience. Here is the latest video I did about it: Ford Lightning - 1 Pedal Drive vs Sport Mode - Winter Range Test th-cam.com/video/tjgFYQS1Aj8/w-d-xo.html
@@F150LightningMike In your experience. In my experience, normal with one pedal gives me the highest miles per kwh around town. Your experience is not the only experience.
You are correct. It really also depends on how people drive and the terrain as well. I’ve talked to several people in the Colorado area as well as other mountain areas that benefit from sport mode because of the constant up and down and changing of elevation. That being said my goal for doing these videos is to show what works for me and try to inspire people to test on their own. FYI: Another range saving tip that has worked for me is turning off propower on board when you are not using it.
That’s good info. I’m currently doing another test in the city driving, and I don’t see a difference between sport mode with or without 1 - pedal drive on. I’ll post a video about my test results as soon as I’m done.
Pretty much if you are using sport mode and not normal. Here’s a video I did comparing all of the modes: Ford Lightning - 1 Pedal Drive vs Sport Mode - Winter Range Test th-cam.com/video/tjgFYQS1Aj8/w-d-xo.html
I have a chevy bolt and get the most range when coasting. You regen less but for a lot longer, the math makes more sense. OPD cuts my mileage drastically
The other modes also use regen when you apply the brake pedal first before using the the brake pads. You can turn on “brake coach” and it will tell you how much % of the braking was returned to the batteries.
@@F150LightningMike I understand - I just don’t want to have to replace the brakes ever while I own it. So 1 pedal driving gives me the best chance for that.
I made a similar comment on the short - but watched the full video and the information presented here between normal mode and normal mode with one pedal drive is not accurate. One pedal drive shows more regenerative braking because when you take your foot off the pedal the vehicle actively brakes - its not the same comparison. To make a same comparison without one pedal drive, you need to take your foot off the accelerator and immediately press the brake - then you would have seen the exact same response for the regenerative braking display. One pedal drive only gives you more regenerative braking energy because the vehicle IS braking. Without one pedal drive, the vehicle is coasting. Ford uses blended braking through the brake pedal, so if you choose not to use one pedal drive, you still have full regen capability through the brake pedal. The transition to friction brakes will happen at very low speed (
This only work for none 1 pedal driving. 1 pedal driving give you the best range as you can control the amount of regen by slow release and timing. Over time you get good at how to time the distance.
So far for me I’m still a sport mode fan. I agree with you that 1-pedal will take some getting used to. I guess I will have to do another few tests to see what results I will get in 1-pedal drive mode or as I call it “Whiplash mode”
@@F150LightningMike It's not "Whiplash Mode", as you call it, if you practice with it. I have had my Lightning for a few weeks and only use one pdeal driving and I can "feather" the accelerator, to do away with the sudden brking. It just takes a little practice. I would say that say that sport mode when taking extended trips on the hghway without one pedal would seem to work best and more relaxing for the driver.
It works for me … I’ve done several tests some on video and some not and it gets the best range for me. Here’s another video I did about it: I Got 353 Miles on a single charge - Sport Mode Test 2 in a Ford Lightning th-cam.com/video/UI8zgj8kV_Y/w-d-xo.html
Yeah cold weather usually hits my average about -.2 mi/kw. It’s been cold here in Colorado and my average has gone down to 2.5 with a mix of highway and city driving. Still using sport mode though.
That is so interesting. Something doesn’t sound right. There are a lot of others confirming sport mode is better. Also, before I found out about sport mode I did a 50 mile test on the highway in normal. It only went down to 1.9 when I was going 75. I got 1.7 when I drove 80. Sounds like something might be up with yours not sure?
One pedal is awesome once you get used to it. I judge my stops way ahead and get lots of charge. In the city my range actually goes up on occasion.
I will try the sports mode on the highway though. It would be nice to coast at high speeds.
Let me know how it works for you.
If your range is going up either you are driving downhill or the computer is not calculating all that accurately. Regenerative braking is good but you are lucky if you can capture 60% of the potential energy in the battery. If your battery is at 20% state of charge the battery will accept more energy than at 80% state of charge.
Sport mode is still the most efficient mode for me.
I love one pedal drive. I haven’t used sport mode much. I like one pedal drive because I never ever use my brake pedal to come to a complete stop. My brake pedal is only used to change gears, park, reverse and drive.
My wife loves 1 pedal drive too, and I have to tell you it’s not a bad way to go once you get used to it. I did a newer video comparing all of the modes (link below) So in my experience you can leave on 1pedal drive and turn on sport mode and get the 2nd best overall efficiency.
1st=sport mode (1pedal OFF)
2nd= sport mode (1pedal ON)
3rd = Normal (1pedal ON)
4th = Normal (1pedal OFF)
Ford Lightning - 1 Pedal Drive vs Sport Mode - Winter Range Test
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I have driven EVs since 2012 starting with a Ford Focus Electric, on to BMW i3’s and now with my Lightning. In over 200,000 miles of driving, I have had the best range using one pedal. In 31,000 in my ‘23 Platinum and a 3500 mile trip from LA to Seattle, back to Tuscon and back home to LA I have settled on Sport Mode One Pedal. My daily commute is 90 miles to work and home. Without one pedal the average is 2.3 going and 1.9 coming. With Sport Mode one pedal it’s 2.6 and 2.2. If I use 65% streets it’s 2.9 2.5.
My lifetime average sits at 2.1 because of the freeway mileage. Long freeway trips reduce greatly regen and pushing this brick through air at 70+ mph kills range. I try to use 69 as my goal but people end up making you drive and kill your Zen. Regardless the Lightning is real good at regen so to not maximize it is to give away kW’s.
This is good info Leroy. Thank you.
Great information, just got a 2024 Flash and need all the help I can get . You are a smart fella for a Cowboy fan 🤠. I will be testing your method ona trip from Sacramento to Las Vegas in a few weeks. Again great job at breaking down the different modes.
Thanks! Smart for a cowboy fan … lol
Keep in mind you will notice more range savings with sport doing normal everyday driving. You may not see as much on trips with straight highway driving, but I still use it.
Also, turn off propower on board when you are not using it, and that will save some range too.
Here’s a more recent video I did testing out all of the modes: Ford Lightning - 1 Pedal Drive vs Sport Mode - Winter Range Test
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Part of the problem with one pedal drive is that it takes power to initiate movement where the other modes the truck rolls withou any throttle input.
That is a very good point. Some people like it. I’ve just tested it several times and every time I get better mi/kw with just sport mode, so yes I agree with you it takes less effort for the other modes.
@@F150LightningMikewhat’s also nice is there’s an auto hold mode so you don’t continue to roll with 1p off
I need to check that out. I was not aware of the auto hold.
Yeah I do a lot of small town driving, I really use the creep to my advantage, 1 pedal doesn’t let me creep like that.
That’s a good idea. Yeah my wife is an auto hold fan. Just make sure to turn it off in a car wash. :-)
I am on my 3rd EV with having just got my Lightning. I am so used to one pedal driving but I can see how sport mode with no one pedal for road trips would get better range. On road trips I also fold my mirrors for better range.
That’s an interesting concept about folding mirrors. I’ve never even tried that while driving. Only pulling into my garage or after parking.
I just bought a Lightning last week. So you're folding your side few mirrors and rolling down the highway? Is that legal??
@@sunnylamine I think it is. How do you fold them while driving?
On Lariats there is a button to do it, but I still wouldn’t recommend doing it while you’re driving.
One Pedal Drive works best for me- but with a soft pedal- I never let off all the way until I want to stop. Lifetime is 2.5 miles/kWh. I can get 3.5 miles/kWh driving around town- always one pedal. It would be interesting to do a real test under controlled conditions. For some people who don't have the soft touch on the one pedal the other modes might work better. The Ioniq 5 has paddles so the driver can set the amount of regen- some youTubers have done some testing with different amounts of regen up to and including one pedal.
This is really good info. Yeah I need to do some more apples to apples comparison on it, but my thought would be doing it where you’re not really thinking about it you’re not trying to get better miles per kilowatt. You’re just driving and doing the same test both ways on the same roads. I have a pretty good route that I can use for the test that I’ve used before. It’s a good combination of city, two-lane highway, and interstate.
I needed this info. Thank you for the very detailed video! 👏
Glad it was helpful.
Keep up the good work thanks. Are you saying sport mode gets you better range on its own or sport mode with regenerative braking?
Thank you. I think Sport mode gets me more range because it applies more regenerative braking every time I let off the accelerator without me having to think about it as much as I would using one pedal driving.
What I want is max regen on lifting off the accelerator, without blending the brakes in unless you press the brake pedal. Unfortunately it seems Ford doesn't offer that option. It seems that a portion of the regen is only available on the brake pedal unless in one pedal mode, and in both those cases you have no control over how much is regen vs how much is friction brakes.
It is correct you don’t have control over it. You do have something called “brake coach” that shows you how much of the braking was regen, which is very helpful. And it basically trains you over time how much to apply the brake in each mode before the brake pads are used.
Thanks for the informative video. Subscribed!
Thank you!
Great video and love the mountains in the background. I also drive without one pedal.
That was one huge difference between lightning and a rivian as the rivian has one pedal only.
Ford lightning braking system is very smooth and I cannot tell when the friction brakes are blended in.
Thank you. Yeah Colorado Springs is a beautiful town to live in. So I like to pull over in random spots that look good and record there.
@@F150LightningMike i get more driving range overloading my honda crv towing
That’s funny. Yeah the range is not an issue for me because I like that I don’t have to stop at gas stations at all when I drive around town. I just go home and plug it in and it’s ready to go again in the morning.
@@F150LightningMike PLUG IT IN DURING POWER OUTAGE LOL THE ONLY GOOD TRUCK IS THE RAMCHARGER 690 MILLES OF RANGE WITH 3.6 LITER PENTASTAR RANGE EXTENDER DRIVE ALMOST 200 MILES ON BATTERY ALONE BEFORE ENGINE KICKS IN TO RECHARGE BATTERY AND THAT V6 HAS NO CONNECTION TO THE WHEELS ONLY USED AS RANGE EXTENDER FOR BATTERY THIS TRUCK MAKES ALL OTHER EV TRUCKS OBSOLETE INCLUDING TESLA CYBERTRUCK.
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@@billybobbob3003stop YELLING
Idk fellas, i tend to get better range not using 1 pedal and being in normal mode. The goal is to coast as far as you can before Regen braking.
Interesting, have you tried just leaving it in sport mode?
Agree with you. Converting kinetic energy of coasting into battery power with regen braking is obviously not 100% efficient. Converting energy types is never 100%. You're better off coasting as much as you can and finding that sweet spot of braking so you are only using regen braking to stop. Stomping on the brake pedal is just making heat and wasting your range.
I did a pretty good comparison of all 4 modes in this video:
Ford Lightning - 1 Pedal Drive vs Sport Mode - Winter Range Test
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I think you've got this backward. In my opinion, it seems more efficient to coast WITHOUT regen. Moving energy into and out of the battery incurs losses every time.
Thank you for your comment. You are not the only one that has said that normal with coasting makes more sense that it’s better. Some have said 1 pedal is better. While I’m sure that in some scenarios you might be correct, I ended up doing a more detailed test comparing all 4 modes (normal vs sport) both with 1 pedal drive on and off. Let me know what you think.
Ford Lightning - 1 Pedal Drive vs Sport Mode - Winter Range Test
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A scientist would say leave the object in motion until it needs to be acted upon by an external slowing force. Regen is 60-70% efficient. If you can drive in normal mode and consistently hit 100% on the braking coach it makes logical sense that would be best, going further distance with less regen. Sport mode is interesting for towing as it is really easy to get into the brake pad with normal mode pulling a trailer. Lots of people out there accelerating even as they approach a red light. One pedal best for them.
Those are great thoughts. Thank you.
This has been my thoughts when debating this with folks. Need some side by side comparisons to know for sure!
I’m going to do some more testing. It’s surprising how many people argue about this. I tried sport mode one day off of a suggestion and it looked like to me to get better overall mi/kWh so I’ve stuck with it except for these test.
I have a question. What is the difference between normal mode and sport mode in an EV ??? I'm getting my f150 ligthning XLT extended range in the beginning of march, but I still don't know what is the use of sport mode. Sorry, I'm new with this technologie 🙂
Sport mode is better because it initiates more regenerative braking without you having to use the brake pedal as much as in normal mode. It’s also less “whiplashy” than the 1-pedal drive mode is.
Sport mode does other things too, like making the steering a little more responsive.
I hope that answers your question.
We test drove a 2024 Lightning yesterday in Austin. Bought it and picking it up tomorrow. Our 1st EV. Can't wait! Loved the one pedal driving! Better than the Model Y we test drove. Elon Musk is a Nazi. Not a penny from us.
Congratulations on the new truck. You’ll love it! Welcome to the family. Which trim did you get?
I will say when I’m towing my camp trailer down the mountain one pedal drive is awesome. I’ll add to that towing in one pedal drive is awesome.
That’s a good point. I haven’t tested it with towing yet.
Wait? You TOW with this truck? I was told this truck can’t tow???
@@Per1Patet1c it tows better than any F-150 I’ve ever towed with and I’ve bought 4 F-150s brand new. Sure you don’t have as much range on one charge but it’s not been a problem with the distance I tow.
I made sure my Lightning had the max trailer tow package. Up to 10,000 pounds
Yeah I got max tow on mine too. I just need to test it.
But you slow down harder and faster, thus won't it take more energy to get back to speed? Also, Ford used regen braking when you step on the break until you need to stop fast, at which time it will use the physical braks..... Just my thoughts....
With sport mode you don’t slow down too much harder. Just a little bit and you end up gaining more energy for the batteries than just using normal. The point with the video is to show that it just works better for me.
If your in town and come up to lights every mile or half mile, letting off the gas pedal in one pedal driving is just like braking as you approach a light, but it regenerates more power than just stepping on the brake pedal with one pedal driving turned off. One pedal is much more efficient around town.
I’ll continue testing, but sport mode so far is still the most efficient for me.
So if you can’t learn 1 pedal driving how did you drive manual? There’s a learning curve but I got it after a few stops to just let go easy and now I’m not even thinking about it
1 pedal drive is easy. I just call it whiplash mode because when people are learning it jerks them around. Sport mode however has gotten better kWh mileage for me.
Can I leave in sport mode will stay the mode without setting it each time?
Nope you have to set it each time. Normally you get an alert each time you start asking if you want to return to sport mode and you just need to click ok.
I finally got a Lightning and for sure sport mode does more regen braking than normal mode. Sport mode feels heavy and more brakey and torquey which had me wondering if it will wear the tires more? Or maybe if I am easy on the accelerator it will wear the tires as much as normal mode? 🤔
Those are good questions I’m not sure I have a good answer, but I do know that if you have the same hankook dynapro at2 tires as mine that the recommended Psi of 36 is too low. It wore down too quickly on the outside edge of the tires. I had them evaluated at Good year and they are saying that it should be about 40-42 psi. I met a guy that had over 26k on his and they looked new. He said he kept them at about 39-40
@@F150LightningMike Thanks for the tip! I think mine has Michelins but I’ll check the tire pressure!
Sure thing. Let me know if you have any other questions and I might make a video about it. There is one about how easy it is to charge at ChargePoint that is posting here at 9am mountain time. It is at a McDonald’s and the call it a “McFast Charger” :-)
Then I’m working on a 1 year summary video as well as several others, but I’m open to ideas if you are curious about something. I even just bought a dashcam that I’m going to talk about soon too.
@@F150LightningMike Yeah my Michelins are set to 36 or 37 and as they heat up they go to 39. 36 is what the door sticker recommends. I’m pretty sure my Tacoma has a cold psi recommendation of 39. Maybe I should start creeping it up. Scratch that: the Taco sticker recommends 26-29 psi depending on tire size wow.
Yeah how I figured the manufacturer is getting away with it is the “cold pressure” recommendation. Who is defining what cold is? because in my experience the psi drops about 1 psi for every 10 degrees. It’s also weird in Colorado because when you go up and down in elevation a lot like me it changes tire pressure too about 1 psi for every 1,000 feet. Anyways I just have to find a good psi that works for me. So if they say 36 “cold”, then for me it works best if it’s 60degrees outside to set it to 42 psi. That way I’m over filling a little and it will be able flex a little when it’s cold.
I understand your logic sir, however, it’s been our experience that one pedal drive is by far the better way to drive electric vehicles. There is a learning curve that everyone does when switching to EV’s We have a few electric vehicles in our line up both Tesla’s S, X & 3 alone with 3 Ford Lighting’s and we are not scientists or mathematicians.
That’s funny. I might have been exaggerating a little bit on the scientist comment :-)
Try sport mode for a few charges around town too and see what you think.
I rather one pedal, easier.. it feels like the future.
A lot of people like 1 pedal drive. My wife does too. I’m just a sport mode fan, and it’s been very efficient for me.
Thanks for this information! I test drove a Lightning about a year ago and then I test drove another one some weeks later and the second annoying 🙄 dealership worker had it on one pedal drive without explaining anything so of course I had no idea what was going on and he said “I thought you had already test driven a Lightning”. Needless to say I didn’t buy from that guy. I recently put a deposit on a Lightning and I will drive on sport 2 pedal drive mode 😅. I wouldn’t want to forget how to drive a normal car.
Sorry about your dealer experience. Yeah they are worst. Yes definitely use sport mode for sure. But hey I guess you can get it cheaper now.
I use Sport mode with 1-pedal drive. It’s a skill, not a knowledge. It’s like riding a bike whereas no thinking involved. It doesn’t take long to get used to. I’d really like to see the option to make Sport mode my default mode.
Yeah it is really about learning how to drive with it, and having love to have it as a default as well. I keep hearing that it might come with a future update. I’m not sure if that’s just a rumor. Also, I’m not sure if you’ve seen it yet or not but here’s a video I did comparing the range of all four drive modes.
Ford Lightning - 1 Pedal Drive vs Sport Mode - Winter Range Test
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Of all the modes, undoubtedly, normal mode without 1 pedal would be the most efficient. The more you coast, the more efficient the drive. Regen is not as efficient as coasting.
In reality, the driving mode does not matter at all because the driver has the ability to control the amount of regen at all times by varying pedal pressure.
In fact, if you could coast (0% regen) to a stop every time you stopped, that would be the very most efficient, albeit impractical.
Think of it in terms of physics. Let's say you use 1kW of energy to get up to speed and then coast to a stop in the span of 1 mile. If you did that same mile using regen, you would use 1.5kW for propulsion and maybe get .4kW back from regen for .1kW lower efficiency.
I know those numbers aren't accurate. They are just for demonstration purposes, but the physics concept is solid. Try it out and see. If efficiency is your goal, shoot for as much coasting and as little regen as you can.
My info is based on my experience. Sport mode has been more efficient, but I will record an exact road test to show for sure comparing all of the modes with the same approx 100 mile drive.
the science and maths will bear this out too. doing the same work over the same route in the same truck, energy used will NOT be significantly different in different driving modes (with or without regen)
@@F150LightningMike well, my friend, youre just not seeing it correctly.
I guess not. You are correct that traffic is different everyday so it’s hard to compare, and granted I don’t think there is too much of a difference in modes if it’s all highway. I must be doing something wrong, But with a lot of mixed driving I do, sport mode ends up on top according to my trip meter every time.
im so glad i didnt bump into this video when you made it. Both one pedal drive and two pedal drive CAN have NO significant difference in effeciency over the other, over the long term. Put another way, driving 100 miles on a straight road on the same day, neither way of driving will produce more or less battery usage over the other.
Driving up and down a long mountain pass, will also produce no significant difference between the two. Driving style is all that matters. These are the laws of physics. It's impossible to save energy or power or efficiency in either 1PD or 2PD, assuming you are doing the same work and same distance in either style. Its just physics,
Thanks for your comment. It doesn’t fully make sense to me why it works, but it does especially in the mountains where I live. I have heard from several others who use sport mode on a regular basis and it works for them too. Others that live in flatter areas say that normal or 1 pedal drive is best for them because they like to coast. Either way, because of that I made another video comparing all 4 efficiency modes in the Ford Lightning:
Ford Lightning - 1 Pedal Drive vs Sport Mode - Winter Range Test
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@@F150LightningMike It just doesnt, it may feel like one way of driving, sport mode vs 1Pd vs 2PD is more efficient than another on a particular day, but it just isnt. To prove this is really hard, because every route and every day is different. Speed and air resistance and driving style is all so over the map. But there is NO way to make one mode be more efficient than another. There is obviously a way to have one mode be LESS efficient, but not MORE efficient overall. Physics just does not work that way. There will be a minimum amount of energy used to go the same speed, the same route, the same day, with he same work being done in the same truck. In fact the energy used will be the same or not significantly different. Its just facts. One cannot create efficiency or create energy out of nothing.
Do you own a Lightning? Or an EV?
You sound like you’re pretty smart, so I’m not saying you’re wrong. Maybe I’m saying it wrong.
Maybe I should say that some modes are less efficiency than others, instead of some modes are more efficient than others.
I may not know everything on this, but here’s what I have found to be true.
No energy is being created. But the reality with an EV is that when you are slowing down it adds energy back into the batteries. How much energy depends on what mode you are in and how hard you are pressing on the brake, which doesn’t actually use the brake pads at first until it is needed. That energy which is some of the energy resulting from the motion of the car is returned back to the batteries for later use. Therefore the efficiency (or range) increases because that energy is reused. That’s also the reason an EV gets greater range driving around in town.
@@F150LightningMike You are correct in this. Every thing you say is right. But mostly, its this part that isnt correct. ALL the modes are equally efficient. IN THE LONG RUN. over a distance. There is not one mode that is more or less efficient than another. They all use the same energy to do the same trip or work. eventually. So it's mostly a case of averages. But yes, in a short trip, the energy added back by regen can make it 'seem' like it used less than if you did that trip in 2 pedal drive or sport mode. But it really isn't. for example, to drive 10km. To get that regen (in one pedal drive or sport mode) you have to use energy to get the speed to be able to use the regen. so you end up using a lot of energy to get up to a speed that can use lots of regen, SO you go the 10km in 20 minutes and use 10% of the battery
If i drive that SAME 10km in two pedal drive, i'll drive using less energy to then coast to a stop at the end of the 10km. Also using 10%. I just used the energy in a different place or way. But same energy every time. Especially over long distances.
@@F150LightningMike And yes, ive driven my Lighning over 55K miles through two canadian winters and three summers, since August 2022, in 2 pedal drive, sport mode, (which is fun) and one pedal drive. Either way, its not the modes that determine efficiency on a trip. Its speeds, wind, cold, route etc etc.
Ok so for best kWh Sport mode and one pedal off?
Yes that has worked best for me so far.
It's best for highway, but I have found normal mode with one pedal driving is better around town. I have gotten over 3 miles per kwh around town with normal mode and one pedal driving.
Good to know. I’ve been hearing that it varies based on the type of terrain you drive in. Like here in Colorado Springs sport mode seems to still work best in town for me because of the constant change in elevation.
What I disliked about one peddle driving is that once you let off it will slow you down very fast and eventually to a stop which is what you want if only using one peddle. The sport mode just adds almost the same regentative, but as long as you are not using one peddle it is more normal driving and not bringing you down to a complete stop. I would use sport mode all the time unfortunately it will not stay as default when you turn off your truck. I only use one peddle when in stop and go traffic on the freeway, because it is very hard not to be too jerky with it.
Yeah I call 1-pedal drive “whiplash mode” for that reason. When I start my truck it gives me the option to go back into sport mode so I just click ok on the steering wheel. Also I heard they are going to be including that on a future update.
You are not wrong. Yes it’s not an on or off. My point with making this video is to show that regardless of all of that and even though 1-pedal drive is supposed to be more efficient than the others. It is not for me. Sport mode gets better efficiency. Not fully sure of the reason it just does. But I am working on another video where I am just driving in town and testing out all the different modes several different times taking the same route and seeing which one is more efficient in town. I’m even testing sport mode with one pedal drive on.
My favorite thing to do in stop and go traffic is to let adaptive cruise control do it for me! This complete lack of changing gears and mechanical torque converters etc is wonderfully smooth and infinitely more patient than I am!
I love adaptive cruise control! BlueCruise on trips is even better.
So sport mode is best for highway driving and normal mode with one pedal driving is best in city
Actually sport mode is best in most situations in my experience. Here is the latest video I did about it:
Ford Lightning - 1 Pedal Drive vs Sport Mode - Winter Range Test
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@@F150LightningMike In your experience. In my experience, normal with one pedal gives me the highest miles per kwh around town. Your experience is not the only experience.
You are correct. It really also depends on how people drive and the terrain as well. I’ve talked to several people in the Colorado area as well as other mountain areas that benefit from sport mode because of the constant up and down and changing of elevation. That being said my goal for doing these videos is to show what works for me and try to inspire people to test on their own.
FYI: Another range saving tip that has worked for me is turning off propower on board when you are not using it.
One pedal is the best in spo4t mode on my Mach e performance edition is by far the best.
That’s good info. I’m currently doing another test in the city driving, and I don’t see a difference between sport mode with or without 1 - pedal drive on. I’ll post a video about my test results as soon as I’m done.
So you are saying you can do the same thing with 2 pedals that you can one pedal…… 🤔
Pretty much if you are using sport mode and not normal. Here’s a video I did comparing all of the modes:
Ford Lightning - 1 Pedal Drive vs Sport Mode - Winter Range Test
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Does anyone know what the “ding ding” sound the Ford Lightning makes randomly after I start driving?
Where are hearing it from?
@@F150LightningMike the dashboard I think
I’ve looked at all the dash cluster and screen but I don’t see anything that stands out as a notification
Is it the same ding that happens when your seatbelt is not on?
@@F150LightningMike no it’s a different sound.
great video
Glad you enjoyed it
I have a chevy bolt and get the most range when coasting. You regen less but for a lot longer, the math makes more sense. OPD cuts my mileage drastically
Thank you. With the weight of the truck it really does help with regen too.
I always hate to see Chevy Bolts ahead of me or already charging in busy chargers because they have such slow charging.
I haven’t experienced that yet, but I could imagine it would be frustrating.
There mus be some kind of power distribution in sport mode.
When pressing on the accelerator there seems to be a faster/greater torque response. Not sure if that means it’s all in the computer or what.
Paddles?
? Not sure that I said paddles, but being from Texas my accent might come out every once in a while. :-)
1 pedal drive for me - cost of brake replacement far outweighs any regen savings you may get in normal mode.
The other modes also use regen when you apply the brake pedal first before using the the brake pads. You can turn on “brake coach” and it will tell you how much % of the braking was returned to the batteries.
@@F150LightningMike I understand - I just don’t want to have to replace the brakes ever while I own it. So 1 pedal driving gives me the best chance for that.
That makes sense for sure. I hope I don’t either.
I made a similar comment on the short - but watched the full video and the information presented here between normal mode and normal mode with one pedal drive is not accurate. One pedal drive shows more regenerative braking because when you take your foot off the pedal the vehicle actively brakes - its not the same comparison. To make a same comparison without one pedal drive, you need to take your foot off the accelerator and immediately press the brake - then you would have seen the exact same response for the regenerative braking display. One pedal drive only gives you more regenerative braking energy because the vehicle IS braking. Without one pedal drive, the vehicle is coasting. Ford uses blended braking through the brake pedal, so if you choose not to use one pedal drive, you still have full regen capability through the brake pedal. The transition to friction brakes will happen at very low speed (
Good info thank you.
I'm surprised at all the positive comments about one pedal drive. It's truly the worst experience.
Yeah I’m not the biggest fan, but some people like it. Sport mode is so much better in my opinion.
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Thank you!
This only work for none 1 pedal driving. 1 pedal driving give you the best range as you can control the amount of regen by slow release and timing. Over time you get good at how to time the distance.
Good advice, in my tests sport mode does seem to do the best.
Agreed, It really only took a couple weeks of one pedal driving and it becomes habit. I don't like driving without it anymore.
So far for me I’m still a sport mode fan. I agree with you that 1-pedal will take some getting used to. I guess I will have to do another few tests to see what results I will get in 1-pedal drive mode or as I call it “Whiplash mode”
@@F150LightningMike It's not "Whiplash Mode", as you call it, if you practice with it. I have had my Lightning for a few weeks and only use one pdeal driving and I can "feather" the accelerator, to do away with the sudden brking. It just takes a little practice. I would say that say that sport mode when taking extended trips on the hghway without one pedal would seem to work best and more relaxing for the driver.
You have a good point. If you “feather” the peddle it’s not as bad on 1 pedal. I’m still a sport mode fan though.
It doesn't.......just drive regular mode. And if you're a range fan....(slow down???...)...duh
It works for me … I’ve done several tests some on video and some not and it gets the best range for me. Here’s another video I did about it: I Got 353 Miles on a single charge - Sport Mode Test 2 in a Ford Lightning
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Ford sucks.
I like mine.
Not mine
Does sport mode not work better for you?
@@F150LightningMike atleast not in the cold
Yeah cold weather usually hits my average about -.2 mi/kw. It’s been cold here in Colorado and my average has gone down to 2.5 with a mix of highway and city driving. Still using sport mode though.
@F150LightningMike was in the 20's for about a week, was down to 1.6 - 1.7mi/kw. More like 1.8 without sport mode
That is so interesting. Something doesn’t sound right. There are a lot of others confirming sport mode is better. Also, before I found out about sport mode I did a 50 mile test on the highway in normal. It only went down to 1.9 when I was going 75. I got 1.7 when I drove 80. Sounds like something might be up with yours not sure?