A good practical observation. This was my experience in my 20’s I freely admit Bardon’s training was too tough for me at that time, I did Thelemic stuff and enochian then came back to Bardon and progressed well.
If you take less than 1 years for each degree, you taking it wrong. Pratique each day as many hours as possible. Most important exercises are about concentration, first degrees. It's the key. Your level of focus, of concentration, stay from an incarnation to another. It's the only thing that don't return to sleep.
@@TheGraveyardCowboy Your video is called "Franz Bardon Exercises - Why Are They Not Working?", the answer is : you need to exercice hard and a lot. There will be no divine intervention. Each psychology is different, yes. But the pure principle that you are, is Will. And that's the case for everyone. If you want to get relaxation, or nice experiences, Bardon is not the right study. If you wish to elevate yourself spiritually and gain power, Bardon is the best. Here in France, we have a number of students, who have reached impressive levels ... but at the cost of sustained effort over the years. All the best =)
True. Consistency is the key. All later steps are based upon the first three steps. If you master the thought control exercises everything becomes easier. Sometimes the first exercise alone, if done consistently and for a prolonged period of time will provide you with spiritual experiences.
@Pete Testube I refer mostly to the three first mental exercises. Which consists in observing your thoughts without allowing your consciousness to be carried away by the influx of thoughts. Focussing your whole concentration upon a single thought/concept/image for a prolonged period of time and last the vacancy of mind exercise. Which is an advanced stage where thoughts will no longer arise. At this stage there is only pure consciousness. The eastern doctrines state that this state of mind proportionates an exceedingly state of bliss and peace to the one who achieves it. It is also associated with moksha ( unity with the whole of creation and freedom from the cycle of reincarnation ).
If you don’t have balance of the four elements then you will have an issue with this work. He states in the beginning that no character trait should be out of place and of it is it will only become accentuated in this work which will also not allow you in. Recently a missing book showed up which to me seem a lot like one of the ancient Kabbalist works of R. Haim vital in which he goes through all the character traits shows you which is to what elements and to work on becoming balanced. Even the Yogis worked on the four elements first. The ancient Kabbalist as well. Four elements then seven planets. It can be a lifetimes work. Sexual energy is an issue. Anyone who has reached levels of astral projection and meditative trance to high level knows that it increases sexual energy to high degree. If you cannot transmute that energy you will have imbalance. If you cannot forgo sex as a base desire this work is going to be very hard.
As far as learning to build up your sexual energy and learning to have self control over sexual desire I’d recommend the Taoist Secrets of Love by Mantak Chia which is a book for men on how to build and control your sexual energy - he also has a book for women about the same topic
I would like everyone to know that I now have The Franz Bardon Podcast. It’s on all major platforms. Here is the link: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-franz-bardon-podcast/id1546807211
Admittedly I fell off the exercises while emphasizing exercises from another book that are more theoretical and less practical. Also I started doing Qi Gong. But aside from that, my biggest hang up was the cold showers. In the process of amassing a decent library, Bardon kind of fell to the wayside because I'm easily distracted, but I'll be picking it up again shortly (minus the cold showers). I consider Bardon's book to be one of the most valuable in my library, and sometimes I kick myself for being duped into buying similar books that are far inferior.
@@TheGraveyardCowboy Its going great. Improved energy and posture just after a couple weeks, as well as clearing of mucus. Some definite side effects like numbness and knee pain, which are supposed to go away soon. The numbness has stopped already, and knee pain comes and goes, but has improved. The other thing is I can't go to sleep. Tonight I crashed early after a long day only to wake up an hour later. I was tired, but when I woke up all the tiredness was gone.
@@TheGraveyardCowboy The book I'm using is The Way of Energy. The master kept a list of the side effects based on student accounts. Why numbness? I can't say, but I'm glad the book warned me about it because in the West we are conditioned to take an attitude of fear on stuff like that like you're supposed to run straight to the doctor's office. Anyway, it was short lived, as were the headaches and neck pain, which were already there, but temporarily made worse.
@@doctuhmazing Cool. Yes, good point. I have had times myself where energetic shifts cause strange sensations or lack of sensations or aches etc and it proves to be just part of the process. But you're right, we get conditioned in the West to medicalize and panic. I have gone to the doctor before bc of things like this and it proved to be nothing serious. Certain herbs seem to help with transitions though. I like cayenne pepper and ginger.
Does anyone one know if you're suppose to do the exercises one at a time or 1 from the mental, astral and physical exercises at the same time or even one after the other from those categories ? Basically I'm confused on the order needed to do the exercises in order to maintain balance. I appreciate any help and advice.
Bardons system is the most efficient, it's aimed at a beginning level starting off. It's not meant for highly developed meditators....he starts you off with basic meditation practices, observe your thoughts, learn to concentrate then emptiness, it's like a ladder that is dependent on each other. Read Rawn Clarks Bardon companion if u need help. I've been researching all other authors on magical development and trust me it's the best, I've seen results and so have others. , and just keep up your practice, it does work...I might just start up a TH-cam video just to explain? Everyone seems to think anyone can be a magician without training or discipline because of all the books today tell u how easy it is...sure you can cast a spell or two or whatever. But have u mastered your thoughts, your passions or emotions? Are u at peace with yourself? Bardons system is a spiritual system meant to bring you to the highest level of awareness, so called union with the universal consciousness
I agree Bardon's IIH is not the most efficient method out there today, though it still reads great. Personally I had no problems getting started with IIH. I see your problem in the physical realm, Clint. The physical body and his energies is the base of the tree of life and though mental and astral phoenomena may often not be dependent on physical conditions, for a beginner a good fitness level pushes success on all planes. Frankly, what I can see from your video, you have kind of a bad posture and some phsyical exercise to add muscle strength to your body could help you get a foot into magic (which is a far more earthly art than mystics). I had good results with strength training. Muscles hold blood - blood is connected to life energy plus testosterone triggers more electrical fluid. I'd give it a try. :)
When in the first practices it expects you to spend ten minutes with your mind blank, in just a few weeks of training, and with the practice of invoking elements such as fire, it warns you that if you do not have everything balanced in your life, the practice can cause Unfortunately, you understand that the book is either not for someone inexperienced or the teacher is totally unaware of what he is suggesting...
You're not required to blank your mind for ten minutes with the 'Vacancy of Mind' exercise. Instead, you're required to observe your mind, which is ALREADY blank, for 10 minutes. The noise in your head is generated by your *brain*, not mind. So all you have to do is turn your focus from the brain-noise to the NATURALLY blank mind, and keep it there for 10 minutes. 🙂
Also, as a positivist I want to ask you a question, how is it possible to altering someone's mind via supernatural powers? Can you elaborate on that please? Thanks
i an not here to doubt of the benefits related to the meditation practices in this book because I do understand their incredible value But many times it is described in the book powers. Example being able to alter the temperature of the room you are in or even breaking mirrors or levitation My question here is very simple is anyone here or elsewhere really capeble of such acts? If yes please describe your skill and I will contact you in private And yes this is important before you say something about how doing these to prove they are real is not the true objective. I think this is a very small argument, So much more in terms of knowledge about the physical world could be achieved with such powers that it is absurd to hide these power. Thinking they can only be used as circus tricks instead of actual achieving scientific knowledge
You've missed Bardon's point. He says, "while these things are achievable, *do not* waste your time on them. Ignore their temptation and push on to Step 10 instead".
The book tells you that a “‘True Magician’” takes what is necessary and discards the rest. You know the law is to stop before the stop sign, but you also know that stopping after of the sign allows you to see= safety. You’re following a book written by someone else post-humorously. Which the implications here should be more than obvious. Bardon was overweight, smoked like a chimney and fell victim to his own claims of the poison of imagination. Be realistic and honest, opposed to idealistic. The most import idea is to enforce showing up and don’t be in a hurry to “Ascend”, instead of aspire. There are parts where I am less efficient than others, some I have ignored all together. Neither has stopped me from being a magnetopath, in fact the opposite it has helped despite the peculiarity of Bardon’s methods and symbols, or at-least the translations we have.
Why should I surrender to something I don't trust ? I understand you call it: "divine providence" but it can also be something or someone presenting itself as divine providence to us. It's like people keeping reincarnating into shitty lives because they blindly trusted entities they perceived as god or gods. The massive amount of love perceived after the body dies is very suspicious to me knowing that love is an emotion that is often use to manipulate people.
Please translate it: Todo tiene su parte frontal y su reverso, todo tiene una manifestación "buena" o "mala". El amor en su definición más alta está lejos de ser lo que usan para manipular ya que un ser completo en su psique no necesita nada de nadie, entonces ama por amar, mientras que otros aman por qué necesitan recibir y como todo tiene su precio dan y reciben en mutua necesidad. La idea de la "Divina Providencia" es algo que en la palabra tenés el significado, llamalo Dios, Cristo, Buhda, el Todo, "Mente Viviente", Espíritu Santo, etc. Es la causa de las causas, y a esa causa del cual como dicen los sabios fuimos hechos a su imagen y semejanza es a aquel a quien se busca por sabiduría. Y el tema de encarnar en un mundo en estás condiciones es el hecho simple de que si vivieras sin ningún problema más te valdría llamarte hombre sin sentido que hombre con aptitudes, virtudes y valiente, nada se gana sin que se ponga a prueba, por eso el espíritu se envuelve en los velos del alma y el alma en el cuerpo. Tu puedes hacer muchas cosas con tu cuerpo pero aún así es divertido limitarte a usar solo los dedos en un plano bidimensional para jugar Mario Bross y aprender, por qué por más capacidad que tengas, cuando te limitas tienes que aprender a cómo hacer las cosas bien en esas circunstancias. Así que disfruta de el gran escenario de la vida, por qué donde más aprenderás a amar por más que nada recibas y a tener paciencia ante las cosas que no tienes control ? Suerte hermano, y que la desesperación no te robe la capacidad de poder ver claramente la vida, la enseñanza y la meta
people dont have basic control of thier thoughts.. .how will they come close too startingg this.. they want an easy fix but dont start by fixing themselves.. Without peerfected virtues there is no magic there is the animal and mental life of reaction to situations. pinball in a machcine.
A good practical observation. This was my experience in my 20’s I freely admit Bardon’s training was too tough for me at that time, I did Thelemic stuff and enochian then came back to Bardon and progressed well.
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Understandable. I hear that sort of thing from many students.
If you take less than 1 years for each degree, you taking it wrong. Pratique each day as many hours as possible. Most important exercises are about concentration, first degrees. It's the key. Your level of focus, of concentration, stay from an incarnation to another. It's the only thing that don't return to sleep.
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Sounds good to me. But I also think each individual is unique in their process. Bardon emphasizes this.
@@TheGraveyardCowboy Your video is called "Franz Bardon Exercises - Why Are They Not Working?", the answer is : you need to exercice hard and a lot. There will be no divine intervention. Each psychology is different, yes. But the pure principle that you are, is Will. And that's the case for everyone.
If you want to get relaxation, or nice experiences, Bardon is not the right study. If you wish to elevate yourself spiritually and gain power, Bardon is the best. Here in France, we have a number of students, who have reached impressive levels ... but at the cost of sustained effort over the years.
All the best =)
True. Consistency is the key. All later steps are based upon the first three steps. If you master the thought control exercises everything becomes easier. Sometimes the first exercise alone, if done consistently and for a prolonged period of time will provide you with spiritual experiences.
@Pete Testube I refer mostly to the three first mental exercises. Which consists in observing your thoughts without allowing your consciousness to be carried away by the influx of thoughts. Focussing your whole concentration upon a single thought/concept/image for a prolonged period of time and last the vacancy of mind exercise. Which is an advanced stage where thoughts will no longer arise. At this stage there is only pure consciousness. The eastern doctrines state that this state of mind proportionates an exceedingly state of bliss and peace to the one who achieves it. It is also associated with moksha ( unity with the whole of creation and freedom from the cycle of reincarnation ).
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If you don’t have balance of the four elements then you will have an issue with this work. He states in the beginning that no character trait should be out of place and of it is it will only become accentuated in this work which will also not allow you in. Recently a missing book showed up which to me seem a lot like one of the ancient Kabbalist works of R. Haim vital in which he goes through all the character traits shows you which is to what elements and to work on becoming balanced. Even the Yogis worked on the four elements first. The ancient Kabbalist as well. Four elements then seven planets. It can be a lifetimes work. Sexual energy is an issue. Anyone who has reached levels of astral projection and meditative trance to high level knows that it increases sexual energy to high degree. If you cannot transmute that energy you will have imbalance. If you cannot forgo sex as a base desire this work is going to be very hard.
so what would you suggest to do as a excercise at start?
As far as learning to build up your sexual energy and learning to have self control over sexual desire I’d recommend the Taoist Secrets of Love by Mantak Chia which is a book for men on how to build and control your sexual energy - he also has a book for women about the same topic
Can you tell me more about "seven planets"? Some literature for practice? Thanks.
Kriya yoga is very helpfull to his training !
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Agreed!!
I would like everyone to know that I now have The Franz Bardon Podcast. It’s on all major platforms. Here is the link: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-franz-bardon-podcast/id1546807211
Admittedly I fell off the exercises while emphasizing exercises from another book that are more theoretical and less practical. Also I started doing Qi Gong. But aside from that, my biggest hang up was the cold showers.
In the process of amassing a decent library, Bardon kind of fell to the wayside because I'm easily distracted, but I'll be picking it up again shortly (minus the cold showers).
I consider Bardon's book to be one of the most valuable in my library, and sometimes I kick myself for being duped into buying similar books that are far inferior.
How is the Qi Gong going for you? That's a great practice, I think.
@@TheGraveyardCowboy Its going great. Improved energy and posture just after a couple weeks, as well as clearing of mucus.
Some definite side effects like numbness and knee pain, which are supposed to go away soon. The numbness has stopped already, and knee pain comes and goes, but has improved.
The other thing is I can't go to sleep. Tonight I crashed early after a long day only to wake up an hour later. I was tired, but when I woke up all the tiredness was gone.
Numbness as side effect? What do you think causes that? I would have thought qi going would unleash stored sensations.
@@TheGraveyardCowboy The book I'm using is The Way of Energy. The master kept a list of the side effects based on student accounts.
Why numbness? I can't say, but I'm glad the book warned me about it because in the West we are conditioned to take an attitude of fear on stuff like that like you're supposed to run straight to the doctor's office.
Anyway, it was short lived, as were the headaches and neck pain, which were already there, but temporarily made worse.
@@doctuhmazing Cool. Yes, good point. I have had times myself where energetic shifts cause strange sensations or lack of sensations or aches etc and it proves to be just part of the process. But you're right, we get conditioned in the West to medicalize and panic. I have gone to the doctor before bc of things like this and it proved to be nothing serious. Certain herbs seem to help with transitions though. I like cayenne pepper and ginger.
Does anyone one know if you're suppose to do the exercises one at a time or 1 from the mental, astral and physical exercises at the same time or even one after the other from those categories ? Basically I'm confused on the order needed to do the exercises in order to maintain balance. I appreciate any help and advice.
The physical, astral, and mental exercises are to be done together, that meaning do one exercise after another throughout the day
if bardon's IIH is not the most efficient method out there today then what methods are efficient today?
Bardons system is the most efficient, it's aimed at a beginning level starting off. It's not meant for highly developed meditators....he starts you off with basic meditation practices, observe your thoughts, learn to concentrate then emptiness, it's like a ladder that is dependent on each other. Read Rawn Clarks Bardon companion if u need help. I've been researching all other authors on magical development and trust me it's the best, I've seen results and so have others. , and just keep up your practice, it does work...I might just start up a TH-cam video just to explain? Everyone seems to think anyone can be a magician without training or discipline because of all the books today tell u how easy it is...sure you can cast a spell or two or whatever. But have u mastered your thoughts, your passions or emotions? Are u at peace with yourself? Bardons system is a spiritual system meant to bring you to the highest level of awareness, so called union with the universal consciousness
@@aetheriusnox5302 Thank you for this commentary.
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@@gabrielvenegas2729 I would still use IIH, just approach it from someone like Mark Rasmus, Clint or Bob Smith (Sixty Skills).
Where can I find a list of his words ZUEBLAUM was one.
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@@elaiottoiale4216 What every gets you off buddy that was lame
I agree Bardon's IIH is not the most efficient method out there today, though it still reads great. Personally I had no problems getting started with IIH. I see your problem in the physical realm, Clint. The physical body and his energies is the base of the tree of life and though mental and astral phoenomena may often not be dependent on physical conditions, for a beginner a good fitness level pushes success on all planes. Frankly, what I can see from your video, you have kind of a bad posture and some phsyical exercise to add muscle strength to your body could help you get a foot into magic (which is a far more earthly art than mystics). I had good results with strength training. Muscles hold blood - blood is connected to life energy plus testosterone triggers more electrical fluid. I'd give it a try. :)
Hello, if bardon's IIH is not the most efficient method out there today then what methods are efficient today?
@@seeker9856 I'm asking myself the same question here.
Hello, how are you? What methods do you think can be better than Bardon?
so what is most effective way and excercises?
Did you achieve levitation? Thank you in advance.
When in the first practices it expects you to spend ten minutes with your mind blank, in just a few weeks of training, and with the practice of invoking elements such as fire, it warns you that if you do not have everything balanced in your life, the practice can cause Unfortunately, you understand that the book is either not for someone inexperienced or the teacher is totally unaware of what he is suggesting...
Listen to my other videos. I have changed my mind since this one.
You're not required to blank your mind for ten minutes with the 'Vacancy of Mind' exercise. Instead, you're required to observe your mind, which is ALREADY blank, for 10 minutes.
The noise in your head is generated by your *brain*, not mind. So all you have to do is turn your focus from the brain-noise to the NATURALLY blank mind, and keep it there for 10 minutes. 🙂
Thank u very informative!
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Quelqu'un peu résumer ce qu'il dit en Français ?
Hi Clint. What book do yoy recommend to an absolute beginner about magick world?
Also, as a positivist I want to ask you a question, how is it possible to altering someone's mind via supernatural powers? Can you elaborate on that please? Thanks
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i an not here to doubt of the benefits related to the meditation practices in this book because I do understand their incredible value
But many times it is described in the book powers. Example being able to alter the temperature of the room you are in or even breaking mirrors or levitation
My question here is very simple is anyone here or elsewhere really capeble of such acts?
If yes please describe your skill and I will contact you in private
And yes this is important before you say something about how doing these to prove they are real is not the true objective. I think this is a very small argument, So much more in terms of knowledge about the physical world could be achieved with such powers that it is absurd to hide these power. Thinking they can only be used as circus tricks instead of actual achieving scientific knowledge
You've missed Bardon's point. He says, "while these things are achievable, *do not* waste your time on them. Ignore their temptation and push on to Step 10 instead".
they do work. not because they dont work for you you have to suggest other people.
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The book tells you that a “‘True Magician’” takes what is necessary and discards the rest.
You know the law is to stop before the stop sign, but you also know that stopping after of the sign allows you to see= safety.
You’re following a book written by someone else post-humorously. Which the implications here should be more than obvious.
Bardon was overweight, smoked like a chimney and fell victim to his own claims of the poison of imagination.
Be realistic and honest, opposed to idealistic.
The most import idea is to enforce showing up and don’t be in a hurry to “Ascend”, instead of aspire.
There are parts where I am less efficient than others, some I have ignored all together. Neither has stopped me from being a magnetopath, in fact the opposite it has helped despite the peculiarity of Bardon’s methods and symbols, or at-least the translations we have.
I agree!
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Why should I surrender to something I don't trust ? I understand you call it: "divine providence" but it can also be something or someone presenting itself as divine providence to us. It's like people keeping reincarnating into shitty lives because they blindly trusted entities they perceived as god or gods. The massive amount of love perceived after the body dies is very suspicious to me knowing that love is an emotion that is often use to manipulate people.
Please translate it:
Todo tiene su parte frontal y su reverso, todo tiene una manifestación "buena" o "mala". El amor en su definición más alta está lejos de ser lo que usan para manipular ya que un ser completo en su psique no necesita nada de nadie, entonces ama por amar, mientras que otros aman por qué necesitan recibir y como todo tiene su precio dan y reciben en mutua necesidad. La idea de la "Divina Providencia" es algo que en la palabra tenés el significado, llamalo Dios, Cristo, Buhda, el Todo, "Mente Viviente", Espíritu Santo, etc. Es la causa de las causas, y a esa causa del cual como dicen los sabios fuimos hechos a su imagen y semejanza es a aquel a quien se busca por sabiduría. Y el tema de encarnar en un mundo en estás condiciones es el hecho simple de que si vivieras sin ningún problema más te valdría llamarte hombre sin sentido que hombre con aptitudes, virtudes y valiente, nada se gana sin que se ponga a prueba, por eso el espíritu se envuelve en los velos del alma y el alma en el cuerpo. Tu puedes hacer muchas cosas con tu cuerpo pero aún así es divertido limitarte a usar solo los dedos en un plano bidimensional para jugar Mario Bross y aprender, por qué por más capacidad que tengas, cuando te limitas tienes que aprender a cómo hacer las cosas bien en esas circunstancias. Así que disfruta de el gran escenario de la vida, por qué donde más aprenderás a amar por más que nada recibas y a tener paciencia ante las cosas que no tienes control ? Suerte hermano, y que la desesperación no te robe la capacidad de poder ver claramente la vida, la enseñanza y la meta
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When you will be confronted with a Demon you might change your mind. As if those beeings really do what you want. It is called deception.
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people dont have basic control of thier thoughts.. .how will they come close too startingg this.. they want an easy fix but dont start by fixing themselves.. Without peerfected virtues there is no magic there is the animal and mental life of reaction to situations. pinball in a machcine.
Yes
"perfected virtues" are the last thing youll ever need here. Focus and will are the only things required to get started an id say overall.
he left out the Masonic details
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You have to be on a different Level your mind is too small
Sounds like your making excuse for your self
You talk too much.