-9 SUMMIT ICE STORM in the NEW Nortent VERN 1. Tested on a winter camp- and the tent?
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- Pitching in a storm on a winter summit was serious. I had to get this tent up fast.
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What a great test for the tent. Mind you Dave you put yourself through a lot to make a great video. So much information, given eloquently. I live your channel. Thank you & keep safe.
Glad you enjoyed it and yes, I thought that at one point too!
Dave another great video, very well narrated with honest points made, you deserve to see your channel grow with subscribers, keep going mate
Much appreciated PP!
Fair play Dave! Proper testing night that. Thanks for documenting ☺️
Adge.
Cheers buddy!
Enjoyed the video immensely Dave.... Learning such a lot from your work.... Love your dog too.... a real easy going companion for you on the hill....
She's the best Ed. Thanks a lot for the comment. I am learning all the time too.
Great test and camp video mate.
Just received my vern 1 today cant wait to get out in it.
👍 enjoy!
Awesome test, loved it 👌
Thank you buddy
A proper test if ever I saw one!
Not just the tent that was tested! Young fellman here had to focus.
Really enjoyed watching that. Thankyou.
When melting snow, its best to put the water in the pot first and then add the snow on top. Will b more efficient and reduces the risk of burning the pot 👍
Yes, you are right, I did have a bit in but added more for illustration, but thanks for adding Steven and I am glad you enjoyed it.
A true inspiration 🫡
Thanks!
, very well narrated with honest points made
Thank you Dadit.
That was some quality rain but you got loads of sleep, lucky you! When I camped in the Cairngorms in December I only had 2 hours of sleep😭 the nortent tents do look good. Thanks
Being I'm a tent seems to calm the savage beast in me Ben. Will see if you have a video of that sleepless night up. Thanks for watching!
Thats a great video Dave and i always admire and appreciate all the efforts involved in making this type of video especially in these type of conditions. Also its good to see that you mentioned about thinking ahead and being prepared for things to get worse or go wrong ( Prepare for the worst and hope for the best ;) When i see videos where they go out in winter and take enough booze to put an Elephant on its back it baffles me At the end of the day though we are all very subjective when giving our thoughts and opinions on bits of gear and its erring on the side of coming across as being offensive or negative when you want to express an objective opinion. Personally i like simplicity and minimalism with any type of gear and it has to be able to withstand a good hiding too and quick to deploy be it a tent , sleeping bag , stove etc at the same time as being as light as possible. The more bells and whistles the more things to go wrong so for 4 season summit capable tents i wouldn't want more than one access point because that means more zips and more weight and more potentially vulnerable parts. It's great to see how this Vern 1 dealt with the condensation but the variables in UK conditions are so inconsistent that what works one day might not work the next as i often find out. Just the change of wind direction carrying more moist air can significantly change how the tents perform. Have you ever made any mods to any tents that have involved more pegging points or guy line points etc ? I know this would void the warranty but on some tents it would make a word of difference for very minimal weight gain. I would like to know if you have and who did it..Thanks for sharing.
Hi Olan, i get you on the variable condensation issue. As for guying points, I have made no significant changes, but i do carry extra guys for the ones available. Thanks for the elaborate comment!
Blimey “ nerves of steel” what a storm glad the tent held up for you and your canine friend take care both.
Great video there Dave, can’t wait for mine to come! Annoyingly purchased after receiving an email from the stockist saying they were back in stock, only to then get an automated email after purchase saying it was actually a pre-order. The wait continues 😁Looks absolutely flawless in challenging weather
Fingers crossed it will be with you soon. Enjoy and cheers for the feedback Mike..
Wowzers. Fair play. That was one hell of a review. I bet you slept well the next night! All the best 👍
Actually Paul, I slept pretty well that night. Being in a tent is my happy place. thanks for the comment.
Do you think it’s better than the storm star Dave? 🤔
This is the second video of yours which I’ve watched, and as previous viewers have said, your narration is excellent, as is your own thoughts regarding equipment etc. Regardless of whether you have been sent gear or not, having a honest, informed review is what is important, especially if subscribers trust your opinions on items they may be considering to purchase. Thank you for taking us on your adventure. You have a new subscriber 😎
Welcome aboard Marc, just looked at your passion rave video.
Great test of tent, man, dog and fish! Nice summary at the end. Experience and thus opinion will vary and no manufacturer is stone free of error now and then. Vern 1 appears as good as anything out there for dealing with the elements. I especially like the fact that the inner does not seem prone to flapping about as much as some others in windy conditions. That you could get a good night's sleep with all of that going on, says much.
Well said Curt.
Watched your channel a lot Dave, never commented directly albeit I have cross-chatted with you on Andy Park's channel. I like your output, it's very well presented and I actually bought a Simond Makalu on your recommendation (Despite having a good few mountain ready tents already). I have an expedition tent by a now defunct Norwegian company called Nanok. It robustness and quality is outstanding........the Norwegians know what they are doing in that dept and the Vern looks exceptionally robust also. Around 50 years ago my dad started me on Scottish mountains and I've been hooked since childhood. Summit camping came in my early 20s. It's the utter freedom of spirit and the awsome beauty of nature Dave. That's what drives it all. That is why we lean this multi disciplined pursuit of "Mountaincraft". There's nothing quite like it. ATB from North of the wall.
Hello my friend, ahh Scotland, the land of the free. Yes I miss using the \makalu, its a great tent and fabulous value.I would love to use it again given the chance. I had my son and his mate in it recently, ideal for them , warm and tough. Thanks for your notes about appreciated nature, fantastic stuff. i just wish I had chance to get to Scotland this winter.
Been really enjoying your channel Dave looking forward to you reviewing vern 2 thinking of getting it for me and my son to enjoy some adventures this year nothing like the last video mind you it will be fair weather for us.
Cheers Jarrod. I only ended up doing that camp as I could not persuade my son to come out. Glad he didn't. Might of put him off completely.
Wise words regarding filling up your lighter with a decent gas. I made the rookie error of filling mine last week with normal clipper butane and of course the bloody thing was useless! Fortunately I carry matches too so I could still cook hot food and have a brew. Needless to say the first thing I did when I got home was to fill it with MSR Isopro. So top man for highlighting that, it's an easy thing to overlook. Oh, cool dog too. 👍
Cheers Dudley, Honey is the best.
Hi Dave, great review there!
When I was in junior school I was very lucky to have a teacher named Jan Scott, the wife of yep Doug Scott and this was exactly the time when he climbed Everest! So you can imagine which poster I had signed on my bedroom wall… Anyway this set me off in my teens to do lots of climbing,hiking and backpacking all over Wales, never went further as I love Wales so much. Then life got in the way and I haven’t done anything for probably 30 years! Well I fined myself single again and in a position to get back into doing a bit of walking and backpacking. So I’ve spent weeks watching TH-cam and reviews of tents and kit! So now I’ve ordered the Nortent Vern 2, which looks an awesome bit of kit. To use basically as a base camp setup for now. To get used to setting up in somewhat controlled conditions of a site or short walk to wild camp. Then if I enjoy it as much as I used to I will look at something lighter to be able to do some proper wild camping and hiking again.. The vern 1 looks to be a great tent for that too. Not sure I’m ready for that extreme winter camp just yet, but once I get back into it then bring it on.
Thanks for the video and apologies for the long comment.. Andrew
That's Amazing! I can only imagine the vibe in the classroom. I went to a talk by Doug Scott and got him to sign a poster. I looked into his eyes and held his gaze, trying to absorb his inner energy. He just looked a bit uncomfortable, and probably thought, why is this nobber staring at me!
Don't apologise for the long comment, that was brilliant. In fact I just remembered I met his nephew on a parachuting course. I commented that he looked like Doug Scott, he then told me DS was his uncle and he had always aspired to be like him!
@@Fellmandave1 thanks. He came into school with all his kit for the expedition and set it all out on the playground. His son came too and another climber who sadly died in a skiing accident Dougal Haston. Yes the school was climbing crazy at the time. Even better my daughter went to the same school. For a short period before it closed.
Any way I look forward to getting my Vern2 hopefully by the weekend or early next week, and I will be out in it at Easter! I’m going to the first site I ever camped at which is Beddgelert forest site. Although this time I’m driving there! First time I took the train to Porthmadog and walked the 8 miles to Beddgelert. With my huge backpack on.
Douglas Haston too! Be sure to let me know how you get on with the vern my friend.
@@Fellmandave1 yes and both so meek and humble guys. Sadly neither are with us anymore. I remember hearing the news about Douglas accident and absolutely sobbing. I was 9 at the time.
Anyway enough rambling from me. I’ve just followed you on instagram too. I’ll definitely let you know how I get on with the new Vern2. So excited to be honest.
@andrewwilliams864 I've subscribed to you Andrew. Challenge you to put a Vern 2 video up!
Fantastic filming under arduous conditions. Excellent advise for any potentially failures. Fully appreciate your advice on building up to these sorts of conditions . My reasoning for doing these wild camps is experiencing what you can achieve in harsh conditions , what is your mind and body capable of how do you perform under pressure , how can you keep yourself focussed on protecting yourself. This way I can teach other people to hopefully not make mistakes or at least be to be prepared to deal with the worse . Such a great video great advice. My vern one is at home and based on the two camps you have you have done gives me great confidence in the tent. Thank you
Thanks Steve, I guess it's only when you get to pressure points, you discover the 'leaks' in your system and psyche. Enjoy the tent and thanks for the comment and the you know what!
Did you manage to seam seal or not bother ?I will test when I’m home but rather not seal it. Peak District first bound to rain there!
Didn't bother, but will later. Cheers
Hi Fellmandave, Many Thanks for your review and for your channel in general.
I would see a comparison of your Kuiu Storm Star versus the new Vern 1!!!
Cheers David. This makes a lot of sense. Thinking of vern 1 and 2 vs Storm star
You are an inspiration! I haven't been camping in years and with the help of TH-cam, the bug is returning. Being 4 years off 61, I thought maybe it was now too late, but clearly very much not! Just saving now for the gear. Keep up the great videos, and in return I'll also raise you a glass of [malt] whiskey!
Be kind, make it Scotch single malt whisky!
Too late Tom? Get your ass out there! Interestingly I met three young guys who were returning after a day on the hills. They had soaked down jackets and one had plastic bags in his trainers and said his calves were cramping. They well meaningly advised I camp lower, I thanked them for their well meant advice and said that it wasn't my first time 'nasty' camping. So, don't underestimate your accumulated wisdom Tom. Use it and enjoy.
Great to see youngsters out on the hills.
Think the vern 2 is my next purchase, great video
Awesome! Thank you Coops ! I am sure you will love it.
This is a video all about using gear that many of us would find exciting, and overcoming personal challenges and mistakes in subzero conditions. Subzero not for 5min but an entire overnight in an exposed tent is always a challenge. I like so many tune in to share and learn. But if I may I would like to share why I have appreciated something that is only a footnote. The idea of tent fish in the glass bowl of a tightly sealed tent is a bit of fun that people who have been locked up overnight like that relate to. A bit of originality. Thx for posting.JMO
tentfish says, "teeenttfish!"
Just ordered the Vern 2 today and looking at doing a review myself.
Every time UK has had snow recently South Wales missed out, however the Brecon Beacons had snow Friday night just gone not forecast so I made no plans. I'm still waiting to do a snow camp.
The weather conditions can kill if unprepared like you pointed out. Great video atb Taff 🤠👊
Great. I will look out for that Taff.
fair play - thats defo not fair weather conditions...... solid tent considering many 4 season pro tents are knocking on the door of a grand.
What an amazing trip and video absolutely loved it! Not sure on the wisdom of the fish dish 😂😂😂 ! Your videos are inspiring totally love them, keep up the outstanding work!
Thanks Willow. Just getting tired of the camp dehydrated meals. Your comment really gave me a neck tingle, atb Dave
Thank you for this good video. I have now seen the necessary video of the tent, and yes, I have just bought it. Hope my dog has enough room too. It's a Vizsla male
That's a lovely dog and I'm sure he'll fit nicely. Tents always look smaller on the video than in real life. Enjoy!
Dog looks impressed, not 😂
Solid looking tent that Dave and definitely an option for the bad weather campers.
Cheers Robin, watching your video now, waiting for the shout out! View of the bothy awesome!
Hey Dave from across the pond! (Charlotte, NC WooHoo!)
Great Video and Advice…i’ve “experienced” enough camp failures that I now have a problem, I tend to pack “my fears” and way overdue it, LoL!
Ordered the Vern 1 and pulled the trigger this morning on the Vern 2 as well…i’m anxiously awaiting for them both (Leif with Nortent emailed me and said should be later this week)
And You Sir just keep tackling and filming those treks to the summits, “Never Let The Old Man In” and you’ll be Forever Young!
Hope to see a B-Day 61 video from you…I’ll make a request to “Mgmt” and hopefully they can arrange it for all the FellManDave fans.
Ay up in NC! Thanks for the detailed comment. It warms this young heart to see that you were listening and not skipping, mind you, I can't get my own family to watch it. I think they see enough of me!
I love adventuring no matter the weather... but I really need to get my furbaby used to it, and also used to having her paw-knives trimmed. She apparently has no idea how sharp those little needles of hers are.
Great video... I'm really looking forward to getting out camping again in my Verne 1 :)
I love the design, but still prefer the weight of the original non-freestanding version over the freestanding version. But maybe that will change some day.
Aye, the eternal battle of weight vs strength, nylon vs claws, cat vs mountain! Thanks again for commenting my friend.
Dave just joined your channel interesting video good listing to you enjoyed yourself in all your camp's. Nice little 🐕will see you both next time 👍🍺🚴🚴
Cheers Stuart and welcome.
Great advice, great setup. Many thanks ❤ Do like the radiate type stove and had the Reactor but I did find it difficult to light in any wind, have you found the same?
Glad it was helpful! from another old bloke with his dog.
Time for me to replace my old Blacks Mountain tunnel tent, and my old paraffin Primus stove.
Definitely keep the primus though. I have my Dad's old one and treasure it. ATB
Thanks for an inspiring video Dave. I only hope that my Vern 1 (mark 1) performs close to your Vern 1 (mark 2)
You know I have had it in rough weather and it did well. Enjoy!
Looks more like the Caringorms than Northumberland, the border ridge is definitely a good tent testing ground! Is there enough room in the Vern 1 for the thermarest trekker chair then? Always a blessing for the long nights
There will be enought space Nick, I had the wide mat and trekker chair wth me, but for not the first time I could not be arsed to put it up!
Great test for the tent ,I love a proper winter camp. How do you think your kuiu storm star would have held up in the same conditions. I'd love to see a comparison video.
Good question, I think it would have been fine but the kuiu is harder to pitch and those top vents and tge gap around the bottom do let stuff in. Check out my cairngorm video to see what I mean!
Just a quick tip on melting snow. When collecting snow instead of using pots and pans (snow always reduces to approx 1/3 water sometimes less)
Get yourself a "snow bag"-a large stuff sack is ideal. Collect loads of snow in bag and leave in vestibule. Take snow from "snow bag" Oh one last tip-do not use yellow snow!!
Great tips, thanks!
Hi Dave. I've recently discovered your channel and as a fellow 'senior' aged wildcamper I'm loving the content and your presentation. You mentioned you are about to hit 61? I will be 63 in a couple of weeks and having come back to wildcamping just 5 years ago I certainly have no intention in stopping anytime soon! My aim is to keep going to 70 and then re-evaluate! Anyway, I'm loving your subjective 'testing' of the Nortent Vern 1. For the past 5 years I've been using a British made Snugpak Scorpion 2 as my winter tent but to be honest although it's 'bullet' proof it really is only a small one person tent and I cannot justify the cost of the Hilleberg Soulo as my wildcamping area is Dartmoor. The Vern 1 looks a brilliant four season tent for the UK! Keep up the great videos. ATVB Graham (Sidestickflyer)
Thanks Graham, glad to hear you are enjoying getting out. I highly recommend the Vern. Let me know if you get one and thanks for the great comment.
Will do Dave! Good luck with your silicone bag cook system. I use home made meals vacuum packed and frozen in BPA free plastic bags. Once at camp I simply put the bag in my Jetboil Sumo for 10 minutes! It works a treat every time with no danger of the contents decorating the inside of my rucksack! 😂
Great video and a great tent. I'm considering the Vern 2 also, with the chimney slot. How well do you think that would have held up in those conditions with and without the stove? The stove for the Vern 2 I'm considering is the Pomoly Traveller which has a segmented fairly strong titanium pipe.
From what I can tell so far, the vern 2 will be more than up to it, but I am really not sure about a chimney. But to be fair i have never tried a stove pipe in strong winds. nortent may be able to advise you on max conditions.
but i will be reviewing one soon so will be able to tell you more. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment. 😀
Thank you. I look forward to that especially as at the moment there's nothing on YT except Nortent 's own video on it.@@Fellmandave1
Great video again mate.
Your poor dog - every time you got out you left the door flaps wide open!!
Does she ever feel the cold? I'm wondering how my black lab would get on with his shorter coat...
Thanks Andy, but she was well wrapped up all the time eh? But the only fault was at the start when pitching. She got herself ticked amongst the rocks, but I am experimenting with a bivi set up for her.
Dave excellent video another positive outcome for the Vern1
What is your plan for seam sealing the tent?
Mine arrived today with 20 pegs so your previous comments must have been heard by NORTENT
I think it was not just me, Bill, but Nortent does listen! I will be seam sealing it before long, if anything to help protect and strengthen the stitching, insurance.. . .
i've started making a bunch of espresso for camping. put it in a plastic bottle, then just boil up some water and add espresso. works really well.
There has to be a catch!
Since you’ve asked for our ideas, maybe some dog boots - I saw a set on line that have suspenders. For those extreme conditions ❤
I have thought of that but I think thats for prolonged and severe. It would drive her mental probably! I am sorting a bivi bag for her, for those stop and pitch times. Thanks for the suggestion!
I'm considering pulling the trigger on the vern 2 today. Do you think it's worth the money from what you make of it so far? I was looking at the fjallraven keb dome but the vern looks perfect! Really enjoyed your videos on the tent so far. Thanks :)
Hi, I will be testing the vern 2 soon, so will know more then. I don't think you'd be disappointed if you just get it!
Great video Dave. Btw what rucksack were you using?
Thank you! That's the Gregory optic 58.
@@Fellmandave1 Agh…great thanks 👍
Great video. Do you have an aeropress? I never go anywhere without mine now. You can carry your supply of ground coffee inside the body of it in your rucksack.
Don't have one, I do have the nanopresso though. Just thought this was a lightweight all in one job. But you're right. I should try one. Thanks for commenting.
@Fellmandave1 The ability to make a really good cup of coffee when you are on your own, wet, cold and tired and in the middle of nowhere is one of life's great pleasures. Especially with a few McVities Dark Chocolate biscuits. 👌
I want one now!
Nowt worse than fish juice in yer water! Boy did that look rough Dave. Tent looks ace. 👌
Hi Chris! But you know everything tastes good when camping.
I like the look of this tent a lot but am leaning more towards the KUIU Storm Star. Will be good to see a comparison video if you have one planned.
Coming soon Mark, what makes you lean?
@@Fellmandave1 It's like a Hilleberg Allak but half the price. Lighter materials of course but the sail material at the seams looks very strong and haven't seen anything like it before, so quite unique. Lots of space inside and 2 vestibules. My current small tent is the Robens Starlight 2, enough room for me and the dog but not much vestibule space. The Vern 1 looks quite narrow at the head and foot end, so wasn't sure about that.
For easier hikes I have the Robens Voyager 2ex which is like a palace compared to the other, love the big vestibule.
Also just bought a pair of KUIU Northstar mitts which I'm very impressed with, would go well with the tent!
@@marko9912 I find the KUIU a bit short, whereas the extra length of the Vern is useful, there was also room for a 25" pad. Space is good honestly!
Great video Dave - can I ask … did you seam seal the tent before this outing? I have one on order and still 50/50 on whether to seam seal it - thanks
I didn't seam seal it yet Andy, but will eventually.
fantastic vid, leftover fish juice instead of milk with your tea - lol
Sounds quite vommy looking back! Was good at the time though!
Hi Dave super video. I’ve got the vern 2 on order after watching yours and a few other videos. I’m deliberating over ordering the vern 1 as well as again I’m impressed after watching your videos but just worried my sleep system won’t fit. I use an exped 5R LW which is 1970mm x 650mm. Do you know if it would fit with the tent tapering at each end please? I’ve looked at the sizing on the Nortent site but I think it’s external sizes that it’s showing me. It show the vestibule at 65cm and the sleep space at 135cm so if you take it that the tents symmetrical that implies there’s 70cm to spare at it’s narrowest but don’t want to make a costly mistake if it’s less. Do you know what the actual width is please of the internal bathtub base at its narrowest? Thank you 🤞
Hi Marc. I just got the inner out especially for you and measured it on the floor. At its narrowest points it is 50cm. The distance between those corners is 220cm. 10 cm in it opens up to around 58cm. You would fit in a 200cm x 60, just, but anything bigger. No. My 185 x 65 mat fits just nicely. Hope that helps!
@@Fellmandave1 brilliant Dave thank you that is very useful info. Thank you for taking the time to look at that for me. Watched the video with the inner taken out. Looks a good idea for summer as long as your smidged up.
I'm a forest dweller. Never wild camp above the tree line.
I love the trees too. Peaceful
I think if you’re prepared you can enjoy any camp, although did a few in Afghanistan I’d rather not have, neighbours were a bit…. aggressive… After many years trying to make good coffee in far flung places the best and easiest bit of kit I’ve found is a simple strainer. I think MSR do one called the mugmate, you just put your ground coffee in the strainer, drop it in your hot water, lift it out when ready and after a while just bash out the grinds. Problem with those plunger type coffee makers is the mess, they are also quite bulky. Obviously that’s why people like the aeropress but they are bulky and heavy too. Also I have to have a thermal mug. A good soldier always tries to have a hot drink stashed somewhere just in case, but also in winter hot drinks go cold quickly, and if you have a mug with a proper lid you aren’t gonna spill hot coffee all over your sleeping bag you’ve tied so hard to keep dry. That said, we like to rock it our own way, no rules on the hill! Another great vlog, thanks 👍
Thanks buddy. I have a strainer too, just can't seem to get it strong enough for me. Just though I would give it a go since I had the compatible pan. Thanks for the great comment!
Dave, that dog is NOT going to talk to you again, ever.😮
What's the iceblue container in the tent vests' to the right hand side?
Dog loves me unconditionally Marty. That's the wide mouth hydrapak, also my pee bottle, makes a good one!
Quite some flapping for just 35mph 🤔
Based on........
Another elephant in the room, how does it shape up against the PC version? I am debating whether the extra weight is worth it for the PC.
I have not used tge Pc Hedley, but can be a bit damp in certain conditions. Not something I fancy.
what is the cooking Stowe brand? gas apparently. and how about the silicon bag which resist the heat(w soup). thanks
Hi Mich, that is an MSR windburner duo. Both are in the links in the description. The bags are in the cookware link, the stove is in the stoves link. Cheers and thanks for watching
I would say to justify that type of adventure that its easy to camp out in the summer months but the weather is not always that forgiving and what experience do you have when the weather doesnt have so much of an promise? ..So I done an few winter camps on local hills with good amenities and in decent but nevertheless frozen conditions...everything went as planned and I'm no longer afraid to tackle such an adventure...but my advice is to always plan out well in advance know your pitch and never go beyond your bounds..One thing is for sure I was never so glad to get home after those camps yet I had no real appreciation for my flat in the first instance so in an round about fashion I can say the experience is certainly worthwhile even it if means that your glad and appreciative to get back to those mundane and uninteresting digs...because if your old place never meant much to you in the first place then after that it certainly will...
Thanks Eric!
What is the smallest that you can pack the tent down to?
Hi Dave, 23 x 23 cm. I show that in this video th-cam.com/video/spCPdnR2EbU/w-d-xo.html at the 4:00
Windmachine in use again?
It's actually cheap chocolate that does it for me, so that night I was OK. But thanks for asking Monika.
I'd love to do some wild camping like that, but living in West London there doesn't appear to be anywhere even remotely close that permits wild camping. :(
It looks like camp in the garden time. I do it sometimes, then plan!
@@Fellmandave1 I think you're right! :)
this was in Peak District?
Hi Mich, Northumberland. Its at the start in type! You weren't watching properly. 😂😂😂
You look young mate. Is it the outdoors that keep you young? or do you staw away from alcohol or are you on a specific diet :)? best regards from scandinavia
I think mainly luck! Plus, Low alcohol diet, mostly home cooked food and daily moisturiser with a light sunblock, for 20 years. But thanks, I appreciate it, and thank God as my wife is 10 years younger!
I love watching these, but do you worry about your domesticated dog getting frostbite on his paws and ears? Honest question.
Hi Kana. No I don't worry for her. It was just short exposure and she has a good coat. Plus she is out, twice a day in all weather's and is an ex Romanian stray. Not as domesticated as she looks. I look after her, but thanks for your comment and concern.
Ideal conditions for hypothermia is 2-5c and rain and a little breeze, you can dress for below zero and a breeze but you cant dress for rain.Even the best gore tex or whatever text wont hold you dry for very long and when you are wet you are done. the numbers are taken from the Norwegian army and collected over 60 years and those conditions are when Norwegian soldiers get hypothermia. Not when its -40 etc.
Exactly, I was wet from the rain in the valley which was those conditions Exactly, then hit freezing wet snow. Took me a while to get warm!
@@Fellmandave1Yes and you had plenty gear so no wonder less experienced people die from conditions like that. Sadly there will always come new less experienced people so all we can do is make sure we are able to handle ourself when we are out hiking.
@@MrKveite1 thank you I understand now, ironically there were 3 yound guys on the way down. They were nearly back but one had trainers on, with plastic bags inside and his legs were cramping up. they all had down jackets on that were soaked. They did not need asisstance, good to see yound people out though--learning.
@@Fellmandave1Plastic bags are a bad idea since you will get wet anyway from sweating but the diff is your feet cant breathe when wrapped in plastic.
Doesn't the wife like you ?
The dog looks really pleased to be there as well.
She didn't make me go!
lol.
wich one of the verns do you prefer? the old one vs the new one? the old version has a big pro that it's lighter, but how does it compare to you?
The new one is preferable because of the usable space inside. There may be a LW version coming!
@@Fellmandave1 oooh! Thats epic news!
@@Fellmandave1 Is that insider information from Nortent? Any idea when its coming?
@trektoid5092 yes and no. Don't know any more, sorry!
Nasty conditions. I'll bet this video will have sold a few of this tent.
Nortent are a cool company, I wish them every success!
I might just be buying one myself! :D @@Fellmandave1
Poor dog, mustve been freezing brrrrr
She's got a great fluffy coat Annie, but next time I will take a bivi to pop her in!
I bought a tent because I couldn't afford hotels.
Preferable anyway, no banging doors!
@@Fellmandave1 True
Tent are better then Hotels. 🏕️⛰️
Vern 1 comparison mk1 / mk2 ? Opinions anyone…??
Hi John, can i ask why? I have been thinking of doing a comparison video, but not sure if there is a point. Vern 2 is stronger, has better internal volume, but, of course, weighs more.
@@Fellmandave1 hi mate, was just looking for anyones view really on the extra weight , I tab a lot generally over couple of days obv camp in between, I’m on a telemark but really like these verns….
Why doesn't the tent have a built in ground sheet
It does Phil.
I can't believe you took your dog up there 🤬🤬🤬
They are pretty tough Mike and only exposed to the blast for a very short period. Don't worry, I love that dog much more than you know.
@@Fellmandave1 hmmmmmmmmm 🧐🧐 lol
Hello, I'm brand new to your excellent channel. I like your style so wanted to make a point, not a criticism. I'm trying to get back to backpacking before I'm too old. When I was Young, all the advice when camping was to stay low and well sheltered when pitching a tent. Well as you know, summit camping is very popular now. I've been out in the most extreme conditions possible where no tent would stand, even in a valley. I know if you're more or less guaranteed the weather it shouldn't be a problem. But seeing some camped high in the Cairngorms middle of winter is far too risky for me. I have Chris Townsend s dvd, The Cairngorms in Winter. There's a scene of him camped high in one of these tipi tens with a walking pole. No inner tent, the base opens to the weather. Highly dangerous? However I have camped in severe weather where I was as sheltered as possible. Anyway I think I'll be buying vern 1 for myself. Looks like a tank. Regards
Hi Ham! Thanks for you comment. I just think exposed camping is part of the adventure in this far too controlled in sanitised world. Enjoy the Vern 1, its excellent.
@@Fellmandave1 No one is trying to control where anyone camps. It's just common sense advice . The weather can be very dangerous. However in this day and age of constant updates it's probably less of a risk . Great channel. Regards
Poor dog like WTF WHY?
She loves camping