Side note: coalossal and charizards gmax moves don’t disappear when the opposing Pokémon faints or switches out. The flames and coals will stay on the field for their duration and will continue to deal 1/8 damage to their next Pokémon Second side note: sandstorm does 1/16 damage while volcalith does 1/8 damage. Spdef boost from sandstorm kinda just makes that tiny detail matter less tho
It's not even really a detail that matters since Coalossal is a pokemon that wants to be in the sun, not sandstorm. Sp def boosts are ok, but not exactly important.
@@mastershockvalue6499 Yeah and the saddest part is that they're scaled in the overworld. Someone hacked Eternatus to appear in the wild area and it's huge, just like in the cutscene. So, obviously, the tech is there. GF just couldn't be bothered.
For Charizard specifically, G-Max IS superior (especially in doubles) because of the extra DoT that lasts for 5 turns. Especially since you're running a sun team overall in many cases of using G-Max 'Zard.
Well it lasts for 4 turns instead if 5, but I agree. 1/6 damage per turn is huge especially in double battles, it's basically dealing 2/3 health pools worth of damage on two pokemon slots (except for enemy fire types), meaning that overall it does damage worth of over one enemy pokemon. An indeed, you'd run Torkoal or Ninetales along Charizard anyways, so who cares about Max Flare. With Coalossal and Volcalith it's even better, becuase Coalossal can also have Max Flare if you absolutely want to set a beneficial weather for it. And Sandstorm will also hurt friendly pokemon just as it will enemies (and the damage is only 1/16 instead of 1/6), unlike Volcalith.
Pokémon you might consider running depending on the set Charaziard because you might already have sun up Caolassal you might not want a sandstorm Corviknight if you Defog is actually good and there aren’t that many’s Pokémon that can learn rapid spin Drednaw you might have rain up already and rocks are really nice to have
A classic Snorlax combo was Belly Drum, Rest and a Chesto Berry. Now with Max Replenish you're able to recover your health and wake up in the same turn more than once per battle
They are also amazing in vgc the way mikey explains wild fire makes it seem like it only affect one mon but I affects all for 6 turns doing 1/6 of their health every turn, gmax wildfire made charazard amazing in competitive again, and that’s just one move
Fun Fact: Most Ghost type Pokémon are special attackers, with Max Phantasm lowering the Defense of enemy Pokémon. Most Dark type Pokémon are physical attackers, with Max Darkness lowering the Sp. Defense of enemy Pokémon.
@@MayHugger I know you did - but the issue is that special attackers don't need this move in order to be viable while Pokemon like Dragapult really need it due to the lack of physical Ghost moves
@@MayHugger I know most Ghost type are special attackers, but I feel that the physical types that benefit from this move (like Dragapult, Mimikyu, Dhelmise, Giratina if it comes in D/P remakes etc.) derive far more benefit from it than special attackers would from a special defense drop, and so GF was right in making it a physical oriented move
what about "G-max alcreamie has all the calories"? "G-max alcreamie is the healthier carb-load" "G-max alcreamie has him whipped" I can do this all day. "G-max alcreamie is the sweeter flavor"
Gigantimax Squirtle: Water moves become G-max Floor Dilemma Everyone including Squitle becomes confused and everyone is guaranteed to hurt themselves in confusion as they wonder What the f**k happened to the floor.
Note that this video only accounts for singles. In doubles, a lot of the G-Max moves Michael called useless are actually really useful because they affect your opponent's side of the field, not just one pokemon.
The part about g-max charizard made mad even tho I think it’s overrated, G-Max wildfire is really usefull (Just realized that Im answering someone who commented over a year ago💀)
I have been informed that G-Max Wildfire hurts any non-fire type Pokemon on the opposing side, even once the initial target is switched out. While that is better than I originally thought, I still feel that sunlight is far more beneficial to Charizard. Therefore my opinion that G-Max Charizard is worse is unchanged.
The majority of pokemon players do not do competitive battling (at least that's what I assume). I hunt shiny and gigantamax pokemon for their looks and specialness, I couldn't care less whether they're actually inferior to their regular versions. Especially because in most battles you can't dynamax anyway and you're going to be using the undynamaxed version. Honestly, I just want to flex at NPCs and other players in max raid battles. 😂
Correction: G-max wild fire does damage to all non-fire type Pokémon even if they were not hit so it’s an insanely powerful fire spin dealing damage to all enemies overtime. Edit: Also if you faint in a max raid battle G-max Wildfire came clutch by killing the opposing Pokémon with extra damage.
Looking back at the descriptions you made about most of the "useless G-max" they're actually usefull in the context of raid battles. That's probably the point of them being in the game.
Yeah, because that's amazing when you're up against a Faster, Stronger Fire type. As opposed to having the ability to chip away at the rest of the enemy team.
It's not "eh" when your Toxtricity is hit by it, survives in 30 HP and it's suddenly fainted by that "cheap" Fire Spin. I'm pretty sure a Fire Spin wouldn't have taken 30 HP.
what if gmax moves would have kept the same effect of their max version? for example g-max wildfire does chip damage + set up sun, now that would be broke
@@catherineling5437 Scarf is far superior, as long as you have something to check a dragapult and zeraora on your team, you will be outspeeding pretty much everything and still one shotting it with fishious rend, unless it resists it and is bulky af.
It took me longer than it should’ve to realize that your going over all gmax mons and not just the inferior ones. Not saying that’s a bad thing tho, great vid
Melmetal has some perks let's say if the enemy only has 1 move that is super effective to steel. Using meltdown will disable that move from being used twice which can be a advantage
Grimmsnarl: "you dare call me Un-cool puny human" Me: "it's okay Grimmsnarl. One needs to have a high IQ to understand the pure genius that is your design and coolness factor"
Coalossals gmax move does 1/6th chip damage per turn, which is way better than the chip damage on Sandstorm. It's honestly insane that it does that much
Here is the thing about G-max Drednaw: having no rain effect on his G-max move opens it up to a new option, sandstorm teams That's some chip damage and 50% sp.defense up
not only that rapid spin doesnt get rid of screens. I would much rather re set rocks and get rid of all the hazards on my side and the screens at the same time. Most 1v1 competitive players run defog and get rid of their own rocks at the same time just to re set them again later on anyways. Sometimes not even re setting their own depending on how the battle went.
My solution: If there are multiple moves a Gigantamax Pokemon has that’s the same type, the move with larger pp will become their dynamax move while the other move becomes their G-max move.
0:33 Michael: The only diference is their exclusive max move. Appearance:Am I a joke to you? Edit: I really don’t care that he was just talking about competitive use, since I don’t play in competitive. Please stop commenting about it.
26:14 Nah, I think G-max Melmetal is better. What if your opponent has a really op move? Now they can only use it once. However, with Dynamax Melmatal, it doesn't really need the defence buff because of how much HP it already has.
If you have the Isle of Armor DLC, you can give it Max Soup to remove its Gigantamax factor, or, if you change your mind, give it Max Soup a second time to get it back.
I really disagree with the corviknight one, defog is somewhat common on corviknight and freeing up a moveslot is so good. Also corviknight is solely a physical tank and utillity mon (maybe a check to fairies but then there is magearna the most common OU mon) and boosting the speed of a tank is not that useful
1 thing to say about a few like the Kanto starters and Coalassal would be that the damage on specific enemies is very useful in Max raids. Though, Corvinight and Drednaw are still not overly useful in those situations.
In most Showdown matches, a player will have to make one or two prediction-calls. Do I keep Quagsire in and hope they go for a Water-type move to trigger my ability "Water Absorb"? Or do I switch to Abomisnow in anticipation of a Grass-type move? If a player doesn't switch out to a better option, we have three applicable reasons: Either the better option was defeated quickly, the player didn't anticipate this counter, or the player isn't experienced enough to recognize the utility there is in switching.
I do think G-max orbeetle has situational uses, especially in doubles next to a hustle Pokemon. Boosting accuracy for hustle pokemon is not to be ignored.
Out of curiosity, were you planning on doing a follow-up to this video that addresses the new G-Max forms and moves from the Isle of Armor? No worries if not, I just think it might be kinda cool to see the comparisons side by side like you did here.
Me: *Continues to laugh in Dragapult because it has a higher base speed than Boltund but sweats nervously because it’s possible to transfer Deoxys Speed to SwSh*
@Zorro Sarkar The only way to get it is via it’s pre-evolutions, Dreepy or Drakloak, and those have the absurdly low spawn rate of 1% at the lake of outrage. So you can’t really be blamed if you didn’t actively try to search for one. I really wanted one so I went to the lake of outrage and within 5-10mins a Drakloak spawned at lvl60 so I just rare candied it once and it evolved into Dragapult. So if you do want a Dragapult, go to the lake of outrage and search until you find a Dreepy or Drakloak, and then get it to lvl60 to evolve it into Dragapult which should be easy because assuming you beat the game, all wild area spawns will be lvl60 so you will only have to rare candy it twice if it’s a Dreepy or once if it’s Drakloak. If you haven’t beaten the game, then well just add Dreepy/Drakloak to your party and wait for it to evolve. Note: To get to the lake of outrage you must have beaten Gordie/Melony and you’ll get the water bike on your way to Spikemuth, and then once you’ve got it you can go to Hammerlocke Hills and there will be a lake to the right, cross that lake to the big island (it’s really a peninsula but i’ll just say island for clarification) and in those patches of grass you should find Dreepy/Drakloak.
*GameFreak:* guys LOOK we have GIGANTAMAX POKEMON! Look at all these cool new moves, designs, and- *Michael:* I'm about to end this company's WHOLE career.
I’d also like to add that having a regular Duralodon is better since there’s a chance that the opponent will be using a fighting type, a type that prioritizes physical attacks. It definitely helps since Duralodon is weak to fighting.
G max Orbeetle is really good in doubles if used properly. The accuracy boost is mainly for teammates rather than Orbeetle itself. And it's easy to pivot to them since it has u-turn.
A few things that where overlooked Machamp: You Really did undermined how much boosting moves are used in competitive, with things like a calm mind, and Bulk up or even Assault vest, being part of almost every battel(yes even in doubles where Boosting moves aren’t as popular but They do see occasional play). So I think Chi-Strike should hav been a tossup Pikachu, Eevee and Meowth: You’re not gonna be using these Pokémon unless you’re using the Gigantamax, why would you use Pikachu to set up electric terrain when you can use Tapu Koko.You’re never going to use the Dinamax of these Pokémon because They’re too weak to be used normally. The Gigantamax automatically wins because you’re never going to use the Dynamaxes of these Pokémon Drednaw: Stealth rocks Probably the most influential thing to ever be put to competitive Pokémon other than weather in generation five, being able to set up rocks for three turns means that the enemy cannot Rapid spin or defog them for three turns, and they can’t even switch the Pokémon in because it’ll probably die to Drednaws attack, and by the time your Dynamax is up You can switch into something that will counter there defogger, because with team preview it’s pretty easy to tell what’s a defogger.So then the enemy has to make the decision do I risk not out speeding and losing my defogger just to have a chance to get rid of the rocks, or do I switch out and have to deal with Rocks later.While rain does help because of Swift swim, Dreadnaw Still has a pretty bad special defense And seeing as water which is mainly a special attack type, getting a 50% boost is not going to help him because he gets no coverage for water types
Machamp's Chi-Strike being stackable should have been mentioned as well. It's the only crit ratio booster in the game that can be stacked with itself. What you basically said about Pikacu, Eevee and Meowth, was that they are novelty G-Max forms. It doesn't matter what their move is, because you don't have them because they're good in battle, you have them because they're cool and unique. As for Drednaw, I agree that rocks are impactful (at least in single battles). But they are not so important that you should use your Dmax/Gmax for them. Stealth Rocks are usually set early on in the battle, while you certainly don't want to use your Dynamax/Gmax right away in a single battle, so the move is not very synergetic. And since Swift Swim can very potentially let you sweep a big chunk of the enemy team, it's too strong to pass just for an entry hazard that could be set without spending a valuable single use asset. Anyway, why is Drednaw's G-max move Water instead of Rock type, since it sets Stealth Rocks? If it was Rock, it would be really synergising with Swift Swim, since it would enable you to use your second STAB while Gmaxed without changing the weather. Swift Swim Drednaw is a scary sweeper in singles, but using Max Rockfall is usually a bit problematic. In double battles, I guess Gmax Drednaw might be a bit better than regular, since you'll be setting the rain with Pelipper or Politoed anyway and thus wouldn't really care about the effect of Max Geyser. In doubles it's also much more common to Dmax right at the start, so you could get a bit of benefit from the rocks that you wouldn't otherwise be setting, because they are not that impactful on doubles. really could screw up a player that has for example a Charizard on the back, and most likely isn't prepared with boots, defog or rapid spin. But the effect would be generally quite weak compared to something like Volcalith or Wildfire, which are great in double battles.
@@wombat4191 if you’re using Drednaw on your team that means you are probably already using Peliper or Politoed which auto sets up rain, you don’t need to use one of Drednaws Dynamax turns to set up rain if its already set up, even in Singles where Peliper is used a lot. Being able to set up pretty much uncontested Rocks later in the game if they’ve been removed via Rapid spin or Defog is very nice utility. Especially if you’re able to attack for huge damage, potentially grabbing a KO, while setting them.
If you look at vgc when Gmax Charizard was released, Mikey was wrong. The fire spin effect carries over which I think is why he thought it wasn’t as useful. Gmax wild fire’s effect turned roles into guarantees and decided games. Max flare effectively has no secondary effect after it is used the first time. It just gets boosted by the sun.
Honestly I'm baffled about him saying Dreadnaw G-Max isn't worth. S-Rocks + Damage is insane, then again he's a casual player so i guess it wont be that important for him.
There should be an Electric-Bug(or flying) type Pokémon called “butterfry”. It is a butterfly, but it’s antennas are kinda like pikachu’s tail, and have lightning bolt shaped antennas
G-Max Wildfire and Stonesurge probably would be better tho if you're already using a Sun or Rain setter. Also G-Max Gravitas best use would probably be to make sure you get the full benefit of Sticky Web since Orbeetle can use that move. Still situational tho.
Side note: coalossal and charizards gmax moves don’t disappear when the opposing Pokémon faints or switches out. The flames and coals will stay on the field for their duration and will continue to deal 1/8 damage to their next Pokémon
Second side note: sandstorm does 1/16 damage while volcalith does 1/8 damage. Spdef boost from sandstorm kinda just makes that tiny detail matter less tho
Maths
It's not even really a detail that matters since Coalossal is a pokemon that wants to be in the sun, not sandstorm. Sp def boosts are ok, but not exactly important.
Machamp gmax can be useful if you have a double battle if you have a special attacker
Thanks
I would have my coalossal know sandstorm and use that before i gmax, then use my gmax attack
Pokemon didn't wanna give wailord a gigantamax because let's be honest if they did
*there would be NO pokemon world to begin with*
That thing would be Absolute Thiccness.
Soon as it started to Gigantamax the trainer responsible is like
.......what have I done......the world shall be no more lol
They also made it tiny as heck... GameFreak hates Wailord :c
The thing is a lot of Pokémon aren’t drawn to scale. When you use Eternanus in battle in looks a lot smaller than it’s supposed to be.
@@mastershockvalue6499 Yeah and the saddest part is that they're scaled in the overworld. Someone hacked Eternatus to appear in the wild area and it's huge, just like in the cutscene.
So, obviously, the tech is there. GF just couldn't be bothered.
For Charizard specifically, G-Max IS superior (especially in doubles) because of the extra DoT that lasts for 5 turns. Especially since you're running a sun team overall in many cases of using G-Max 'Zard.
Well it lasts for 4 turns instead if 5, but I agree. 1/6 damage per turn is huge especially in double battles, it's basically dealing 2/3 health pools worth of damage on two pokemon slots (except for enemy fire types), meaning that overall it does damage worth of over one enemy pokemon. An indeed, you'd run Torkoal or Ninetales along Charizard anyways, so who cares about Max Flare.
With Coalossal and Volcalith it's even better, becuase Coalossal can also have Max Flare if you absolutely want to set a beneficial weather for it. And Sandstorm will also hurt friendly pokemon just as it will enemies (and the damage is only 1/16 instead of 1/6), unlike Volcalith.
You underestimate my ability to want things I can’t have
Say that in his video's about the rarest pokemon
I still hunt gigantamax pokemon even though I have like 10 of each. Why? I don't know. Help me.
Unseen Asymptote hunting gmaxes is quite easy!! it took me abt 7 mins to get garbodor and like 20 to get alcremie
YOU DON'T WANT:
Charizard - 1:48
Machamp - 7:34
Eevee - 10:51
Drednaw - 13:03
Corviknight - 14:19
Duraladon - 17:23
Orbeetle - 18:30
Coalossal - 19:38
Appletun - 23:35
YOU WANT:
Butterfree - 3:12
Gengar - 8:42
Lapras - 9:47
Snorlax - 11:38
Garbodor - 12:28
Alcreamie - 16:13
Grimmsnarl - 21:44
Hatterene - 24:12
Copperajah - 24:58
Melmetal - 25:54
Kingler - 26:47
DEPENDS:
Pikachu - 4:10
Meowth - 5:32
Toxtricity - 15:30
Sandaconda - 20:29
Flapple - 22:35
Centiscorch - 28:02
Not all heroes wear capes
Leonie isn’t Melmetal a DON’T WANT?
than u
True, he listed Melmetal as a 'don't want'. Then again, Michael also missed it in his own recap at the end there.
Pokémon you might consider running depending on the set
Charaziard because you might already have sun up
Caolassal you might not want a sandstorm
Corviknight if you Defog is actually good and there aren’t that many’s Pokémon that can learn rapid spin
Drednaw you might have rain up already and rocks are really nice to have
7:37 I can't be the only one who thought he said Gmax Cheese Strike
I read this as he said that and I lost it.
@@phillippeng1368 lmao
Lol it said it in captions too
What is it usually? Chi strike?
@@rompiguess Yup
If Team Rocket's Meowth doesn't Gigantamax at some point in the Sword Shield anime, I'll riot.
its probably the reason pikachu, meowth, and eevee actually exist
Ikr
Pikachu can
Agreed.
Same
Correction: Terrains now give a 30 percent boost in this gen, it was nerfed from the 50 percent
Fernando Zamudio cool... I didn't know that...
Does that include misty terrain?
Travis Prescott no all the terrain boost 30%. Except misty terrain, it boosts you by 90%
@@JosePineda-jn8jk ?!
Jose Pineda
No it doesn’t lmao
A classic Snorlax combo was Belly Drum, Rest and a Chesto Berry. Now with Max Replenish you're able to recover your health and wake up in the same turn more than once per battle
True but Rest won't work again until it returns to normal size. But it is really formidable, I plan to experiment with it here soon
Hello I'm a bug type and I have unnerve
@@philipgelderblom6878 hello mr bug type, that sounds like a problem
@@Darmani2MB Ya like berries, well shame!
@@philipgelderblom6878 Okay, now name an OU bug type, that HAS Unnerved AND doesn't want to use it's OTHER ability more. I'll wait...
Considering that Hatterene gets Magic Bounce, Misty terrain is useless on her because you would want the status bounced back to your opponent
Just like how on Drednaw causing rain should be fairly useless since you will want to run them on a rain team with a drizzle pelipper anyway.
@@rrteppo he also sets up rocks tho which is fucking good if u arent running ferro
Darius Fritts exactly
You wouldn't be D-maxing Hatterene anyway. A lot of the pokemon who do have superior G-maxes you won't be transforming.
@@nuke2099 I dynamax hatterene all the time on trick room teams and its damage output can at least two shot literally anything I face.
Michael: *Talking about gigantamax Pokemon you don't want*
Me: Michael is growing a beard
I just realized! Wow that might look good... hmmm....
His face is Gigantamaxing into a beard
@@guappy2saucy752 you have given me the image of Michael's face actually gigantamaxing and growing a beard, I didn't need this
HOLY S***
Oh God
I find that G-Max moves that have a Damage over time effect are helpful for Raid Battles, because you get extra damage while the barrier is up
They are also amazing in vgc the way mikey explains wild fire makes it seem like it only affect one mon but I affects all for 6 turns doing 1/6 of their health every turn, gmax wildfire made charazard amazing in competitive again, and that’s just one move
Fun Fact: Most Ghost type Pokémon are special attackers, with Max Phantasm lowering the Defense of enemy Pokémon. Most Dark type Pokémon are physical attackers, with Max Darkness lowering the Sp. Defense of enemy Pokémon.
Max Phantasm is really useful for Dragapult though
@@איתןשי I said most.
@@MayHugger I know you did - but the issue is that special attackers don't need this move in order to be viable while Pokemon like Dragapult really need it due to the lack of physical Ghost moves
@@איתןשי Ok, but I still said most. Dragapult is only one Pokemon that benefits from the move being more physical.
@@MayHugger I know most Ghost type are special attackers, but I feel that the physical types that benefit from this move (like Dragapult, Mimikyu, Dhelmise, Giratina if it comes in D/P remakes etc.) derive far more benefit from it than special attackers would from a special defense drop, and so GF was right in making it a physical oriented move
It annoys me that Micheal didn’t say “G-max alcremie takes the cake”
RebootedBlaze ok boomer
@@dankedgelord6977 fail meme
Lol
what about "G-max alcreamie has all the calories"? "G-max alcreamie is the healthier carb-load" "G-max alcreamie has him whipped" I can do this all day. "G-max alcreamie is the sweeter flavor"
CD Warrior any cake pun would have been fine
Gigantimax Squirtle:
Water moves become G-max Floor Dilemma
Everyone including Squitle becomes confused and everyone is guaranteed to hurt themselves in confusion as they wonder What the f**k happened to the floor.
love it
Umbreon: Dark moves become G-Max Floor Tentacles
Floor Tentacles cause continuous damage
69 Likes nice
What about Gigantamax Bulbasaur?
If bulbasaur could g max his grass type g max move would have ‘Won’t be affected by attract moves of the opposite gender’ as its secondary affect.
I know that I shouldn’t want these Pokémon, but I want still kinda want them
Yea u need them for pokedex
How do you show up literally EVERYWHERE!?!?!? (BTW jerza is the only real OTP!!!) (Also wow most likes I ever got)
You should grow a mustache and maybe you’ll get more likes and be more funny
the theo channel because he’s spiritually linked to Some guy with a Moustache who also happens to be linked to Justin Y.
IVE SEEN YOU EVERYWHERE!?!?!?!?!?!
I’m not a competitive player,
I’m a simple man,
If the Gigantamax design looks cool, I catch it...
Saaaaame!!!! I am simple lass, I see cute cake, I catch cute cake
Gigantamax Copperajah is fukin adorable
Wall.
i'm even simpler, if it stays in my poke-ball i catch it end of story, just trying to fill my 'dex
You think the right way
Note that this video only accounts for singles. In doubles, a lot of the G-Max moves Michael called useless are actually really useful because they affect your opponent's side of the field, not just one pokemon.
The part about g-max charizard made mad even tho I think it’s overrated, G-Max wildfire is really usefull (Just realized that Im answering someone who commented over a year ago💀)
@@lamenoir_ and I'm responding to someone from 5 days ago
@@klutz_potadosus and I'm responding to someone from 4 months ago
@@louctendo1321 I'm responding to some one from 30 minutes ago
@@klutz_potadosus and I'm responding to someone from 8 minutes ago
I have been informed that G-Max Wildfire hurts any non-fire type Pokemon on the opposing side, even once the initial target is switched out. While that is better than I originally thought, I still feel that sunlight is far more beneficial to Charizard. Therefore my opinion that G-Max Charizard is worse is unchanged.
D-Max Charizard is Gyarados with access to Solar Power, what were they thinking?
KK
but if the pokemon doesnt faint and the opponent switched out, for example the burned boltund, the burn still stays on the boltund.
Why isn't this pinned?
Wildfire hits both enemy in doubles.
G-Max Gengar: *Uses G-Max Terror*
Fallanks: *Laughs in No Retreat*
I heard someone claim that Falinks can use No Retreat multiple times if G-Max Gengar used G-Max Terror on it. Is that what you're referring to?
Falinks: I'm not trapped in here with you. You're trapped in here with me.
Falinks: Spartans, tonight we dine in Hell!
I hope it's either a double battle or you managed to get Scrappy on it somehow, or it'll be
G-Max Gengar: *Laughs in Ghost type*
@@calvinci ...Falinks can learn Zen Headbutt. I don't get what you're trying to say here.
Michael: *talks about competetive use of gmax pokemon vs dynamax*
Me: I just collect them cause they're neat
Literally everyone collects them because they're neat and cool looking lol.
yes
"i just think they're neat" -marge simpson/immortal koopah
Same
Yeah accurate
“Gigantamax hunting is pointless, gigantamax pokémon don’t do any more damage”
Hard to swallow pills: Shiny hunting is just as pointless
Pokémon Trainer Lily F
F
The majority of pokemon players do not do competitive battling (at least that's what I assume). I hunt shiny and gigantamax pokemon for their looks and specialness, I couldn't care less whether they're actually inferior to their regular versions. Especially because in most battles you can't dynamax anyway and you're going to be using the undynamaxed version. Honestly, I just want to flex at NPCs and other players in max raid battles. 😂
DAMN OOF
*wheeeze*
My jaw hurts... that made a point.
Correction: G-max wild fire does damage to all non-fire type Pokémon even if they were not hit so it’s an insanely powerful fire spin dealing damage to all enemies overtime.
Edit: Also if you faint in a max raid battle G-max Wildfire came clutch by killing the opposing Pokémon with extra damage.
I still think Sun would be better you don't get a kill, it makes Chlorophyll live, it doubles fire moves Solar Beam is immediate etc.
@@rescuerex7031 honestly it all depends on the strategy and Ability of Charizard.
Wait, I thought that was the special thing about G Max Centiferno? Is Centiferno bad Wildfire? They do the same thing!
Hold up, Volcalith is also a damages over time move, but at least it's rock.
Alright, Centiferno is better than Wildfire, unless they have Flash Fire.
Looking back at the descriptions you made about most of the "useless G-max" they're actually usefull in the context of raid battles. That's probably the point of them being in the game.
The entry-hazard ones like Stonesurge are useless in raids though.
It's mostly singles vs. Doubles. Many amazing moves in doubles are useless in singles and vice versa.
I’ve thought the same thing about Charizard when i fought leon. Sun is great, and Fire spin is just.. Eh.
If ya gonna die first turn the fire spin is better
Yeah, because that's amazing when you're up against a Faster, Stronger Fire type. As opposed to having the ability to chip away at the rest of the enemy team.
Me the awesome guy It’s actually the grass fire battle combo
@@SteelPokeNinja It's similar in effect to that combo move, but I think it stacks separately.
It's not "eh" when your Toxtricity is hit by it, survives in 30 HP and it's suddenly fainted by that "cheap" Fire Spin. I'm pretty sure a Fire Spin wouldn't have taken 30 HP.
what if gmax moves would have kept the same effect of their max version? for example g-max wildfire does chip damage + set up sun, now that would be broke
Dmax/gmax mechanic is broken as is no thank you
Dude, they are getting banned from OU because of how broken their secondary abilities are. Making gmax moves even better would be horrible.
Austin Hurt nope
@@drewmto theyre factually correct
“Gigantamax Pokemon you *Don’t* want”
*Proceeds to explain why max butterfree is better
Ikr its likr so long that i didnt know what he meant.
Gigantamax Butterfree is my favourite and the only good one, because Gmax is stupid and I would be fine if it didnt exist
Also Gmax Gengar
He also forgot ability
He includes all the G-max forms, even the ones that are better for easy comparison
I was disappointed about how small wailord was at the camping site. 😂
same!
Let Wailord gigantamax 😭
Same
SMALL?! THAT WHALE WAS *LITERALLY* THE SIZE OF MY SCREEN!
This gen is actually good for Torment, as Choice Band/Specs/Scarf are so much more common this gen
Especially with Banded Gorilla Tactics Galarian Darmanitan running around
@Siddhansh Vidya interesting, I see quite a few banded gorilla tactics users on showdown
Siddhansh Vidya Choice Band is quite common too at least in 6v6 because Darmanitan already outspends quite a few common Pokémon as is.
@@azelfdaboi5265 They beat the bleep out of teams, no matter the bulk
Evan Scott Farshadow you have blessed the meta with a counter to darmanitan
"torment is less used in competitive battle"
Dracovish with Choice band: *A FOOLISH MISCALCULATION!*
Am I the only one who uses choice scarf?
@@catherineling5437 Scarf is far superior, as long as you have something to check a dragapult and zeraora on your team, you will be outspeeding pretty much everything and still one shotting it with fishious rend, unless it resists it and is bulky af.
charizard:i made sunlight, i am invincible
peliper: let me introduce myself
Also, Jolteon: are you done yet?
Anna Thomas The rain would still be there tho even if jolteon K.O.’ed Pelipper
@@derps3746 Referring more to Charizard than Pelipper, as that was how I beat Leon, but point taken.
Golurk with Rock Slide: I'm about to end this man's whole career
@Parker Beaird Jolteon with Air Balloon: *Hello*
It took me longer than it should’ve to realize that your going over all gmax mons and not just the inferior ones. Not saying that’s a bad thing tho, great vid
Michael: Never failed a G-Max Sandaconda
Me: Failed all of mine
RNG was on his side
I have 2 sandaconda G-Max
20:27 I caught my Gigantamax Sandaconda with a Master Ball.
I nicknamed it: "No Regrets".
Lol
I caught my Shiny Gmax Drednaw with a Masterball and games it Koukai Nashi which also means no regrets
I caught a shiny lickitung with a master ball and I got an Own Tempo Rockruff (Shiny) I regret nothing
I have three Shiny Gmax Pokémon and caught them all in Master Balls.
I named my Blastiose Aquafina, my Venusaur Bulbapedia, and my Charizard Leon.
I find you should have regrets
G-Max Cuddle actually sounds less impressive than Extreme Evoboost. The former does sound more adorable though.
Melmetal has some perks let's say if the enemy only has 1 move that is super effective to steel. Using meltdown will disable that move from being used twice which can be a advantage
5:03
With that, just have a Pokemon that Knows Electric Terrain, and if it’s a Double Battle, THEN use G-max Volt Crash.
Exactly. In Doubles, Tapu Koko runs rampant, so G-Max Volt Crash is better there.
Michael: "G-Max Wind Rage is just damage + defog"
The evasion drop of regular defog that G-Max Wind Rage doesn't have: "Am I a joke to you?"
Yes
Let’s be honest, no one uses it for that.
@@bryandraws5163 I know, I'm just saying that it exists
The Ultra Gaming Champ tornadus-t, tho not in the game yet, actually loves that effect for its hurricanes
@@charliez077 rain???
We need an idea for gmax drednaw: But what if it was standing up?
Shows image: Yeesss!!
G-Max:
* Butterfree
* Gengar
* Lapras
* Snorlax
* Garbodor
* Alcremie
* Grimmsnarl
* Hatterene
* Copparajah
* Kingler
Dynamax:
* Charizard
* Machamp
* Eevee
* Drednaw
* Corviknight
* Duraladon
* Orbeetle
* Coalossal
* Appletun
* Melmetal
Tossup:
* Pikachu
* Meowth
* Toxtricity
* Sandyconda
* Flapple
* Centiscorch
So basically the coolest looking ones are worse? Well that sucks😂
Its either the looks or capability cant win em both!
Grimmsnarl: "you dare call me Un-cool puny human"
Me: "it's okay Grimmsnarl. One needs to have a high IQ to understand the pure genius that is your design and coolness factor"
I’m sorry lord grimsnarl, you were of course the one exception. Please forgive me.
😂
@@drtiki2827 Grimmsnarl: "I shall forgive thy. For now"
Garbador: ＩＭ Ａ ＢＩＧＧＥＲ ＰＩＬＥ ＯＦ ＴＲＡＳＨ
Coalossals gmax move does 1/6th chip damage per turn, which is way better than the chip damage on Sandstorm. It's honestly insane that it does that much
The secondary effect of wildfire will surround the *entire team* in a firespin for 10 turns. I would say that, that is pretty useful
It's 4 turns, not 10.
@@pichuculgon8029 my bad i thought it was 10
well that is still not better than sun in doubles, cause the sun can still benefit your second pokemon, like a chlorophyll solar blade Leafeon
@@caaprii6335 Totally.
Why would it be 10 turns for the team?
Here is the thing about G-max Drednaw: having no rain effect on his G-max move opens it up to a new option, sandstorm teams
That's some chip damage and 50% sp.defense up
I 100% agree with you
I know right
Sandstorm + assult vest= living grass moves
@@bryantstudentd3831 at least the special ones
Yep You can actually take an energy ball
@@bryantstudentd3831 That's true, but what about Power Whip or Wood Hammer?
Defog is inferior to rapid spin
Ghost types: yeah, sure....
not only that rapid spin doesnt get rid of screens. I would much rather re set rocks and get rid of all the hazards on my side and the screens at the same time. Most 1v1 competitive players run defog and get rid of their own rocks at the same time just to re set them again later on anyways. Sometimes not even re setting their own depending on how the battle went.
24:50 you forgot that Hatterene has magic bounce, misty terrain seriously has no effect
"Flutterby" was a parody name I gave to my Butterfree long ago; I feel I have been robbed now that it has become a move.
"Befuddle is good against anything"
The electric poison type with insomnia: *are you sure about that*
But that doesnt exist yet
@@jspaceman Technically you can swap Insomnia onto Toxricity, but at that point you've already got the advantage just on type alone.
I thought Electric-types could still be paralyzed by things like Stun Spore, though.
@@lunawohlmut4821 As of Gen 6, Electric types are 100% immune to paralysis.
@@caiusdrakegaming8087 Thanks for clearing that up for me!
My solution: If there are multiple moves a Gigantamax Pokemon has that’s the same type, the move with larger pp will become their dynamax move while the other move becomes their G-max move.
Brilliant! Give this man the Poké Nobel Prize!
Even Better: If you get a Gigantamax you can choose between the regular and the giga version of the move
@@sergiosalcedo5111 Also good. I hate that Gigantamax Pokemon are so hard to get and are practically impossible to use during a playthrough
James Callanan Some are decent, my G-Max Corvinight was pretty helpful, even though it wasn’t needed that much cuz the game play wasn’t very hard
I'd rather they have the signature move become the G-Max move
The moment I get one of these games Gigantamax Meowth is definitely gonna be one of my permanent team members as I like money
I thought G-max Meowth is a preorder bonus? So are you still able to get it now?
Rohan Mareddy Yeah he’s a limited edition, but that only disappears next year in January I believe, so you can still get it
@@icelemontea9244 Ah yes! I just looked it up and found you can get it from a Mystery Gift. I probably would've missed it if you hadn't told me!
How valuable will they be if they are not in raid dens 😐
If its lvl 100 with amulet coin and you use gmax goldrush all three turns youll get 99,999 extra coins
0:33
Michael: The only diference is their exclusive max move.
Appearance:Am I a joke to you?
Edit: I really don’t care that he was just talking about competitive use, since I don’t play in competitive. Please stop commenting about it.
I said the same thing XD
Bruh
Wasn’t he specifically talking about Battle impact?
xd
This is why I ignore gmax and focus on what really matters: shinies!
When we thought gigantamax grimsnarl was the "legendary" pokemon
Well, it certainly is a legendary Pokemon...
Arcanine is too apparently
All praise the great Marnie, Marnie the Great!
_This message brought to you by Team Yell and the entire Internet_
It happened to us all.....and I can't catch or beat one in raids...... but I can dream!
26:14 Nah, I think G-max Melmetal is better. What if your opponent has a really op move? Now they can only use it once. However, with Dynamax Melmatal, it doesn't really need the defence buff because of how much HP it already has.
“Don’t Gigantamax your Charizard!”
Me, with a shiny G-Max Charizard:
*oh.*
what a flex
@@cocoapowder2 thank you kind sir
If you have the Isle of Armor DLC, you can give it Max Soup to remove its Gigantamax factor, or, if you change your mind, give it Max Soup a second time to get it back.
dw he doesn't know what he's talking about
@@ShinyKyu wait seriously
I really disagree with the corviknight one, defog is somewhat common on corviknight and freeing up a moveslot is so good. Also corviknight is solely a physical tank and utillity mon (maybe a check to fairies but then there is magearna the most common OU mon) and boosting the speed of a tank is not that useful
yeah that's what I thought
G-max Toxtricity be like, "VIBE CHECK."
tox is my child.
I names mine atoms and built him as an assualt vest type. Huge hp and good special attack. And mine had perfect ivs :)
when I get mines from the daycare, I’m totally naming it Edgelord
1 thing to say about a few like the Kanto starters and Coalassal would be that the damage on specific enemies is very useful in Max raids. Though, Corvinight and Drednaw are still not overly useful in those situations.
You: battles are to short for pp to run out
Me: playing a showdown battle where I am running out of pp and my opponent is as well
Nederlanders heujj
Or a staller who just unknowingly used Protect.
@@DanDek jup
Duraludon... DEPLETION!
In most Showdown matches, a player will have to make one or two prediction-calls. Do I keep Quagsire in and hope they go for a Water-type move to trigger my ability "Water Absorb"? Or do I switch to Abomisnow in anticipation of a Grass-type move?
If a player doesn't switch out to a better option, we have three applicable reasons: Either the better option was defeated quickly, the player didn't anticipate this counter, or the player isn't experienced enough to recognize the utility there is in switching.
I do think G-max orbeetle has situational uses, especially in doubles next to a hustle Pokemon. Boosting accuracy for hustle pokemon is not to be ignored.
Out of curiosity, were you planning on doing a follow-up to this video that addresses the new G-Max forms and moves from the Isle of Armor?
No worries if not, I just think it might be kinda cool to see the comparisons side by side like you did here.
Second
Dark type Urshifu is better when G-Maxed, the rest are toss ups
@@Nobody134 how is urshifu better exactly? Doesnt unseen fist already do the whole breaking through protection deal?
Gmax will break through Max Guard too while Max Darkness lowers Special Defense which doesn’t matter for a Pokémon with such a high attack stat
@@hankboog462 But G-Max One Blow breaks through Max Guard as well which Unseen fist doesn't do.
20:40 same things happened to me with alcremie I now have like 5 different gigantimax alcremies
5:59 When your internal conscience asks you why you made everyone else look bad so you could get promoted.
It's funny how michael says how he loves gmax steelsurge but hates gmax stonesurge
Gigantamax Pokemon You *DON'T* Want
Michael: AlL oF THeM
Everyone: Surprised Pikachu
Surprised Pikachu
Surprised G-Max Pikachu.
Surprised dynamax pikachu
i was on my phone and searched up Pokémon types and it showed ELECTABUZZ type, onix type and salamance type
SAME ! lmao, i was so mad
I like garbador type
My favourite type is personally the pokemon type
The fact that it's Electabuzz type and not Pikachu type is pretty hilarious
Yeeeeaaaa no it didn’t
Dynamaxed Grimmsnarl: **Gets Bigger**
G-Max Grimmsnarl: **Becomes Swole, Becomes Intimidating, and puts you to sleep**
WE NEED TO GET MICHAEL TO HIT 1 MILLION BEFORE THE END OF 2019!!!!
No
Billy Ross yes
Billy Ross Yes x2
Billy Ross yes x3
Billy Ross YES x4
Me: gengar is in my top ten favorite pokemon!
Michael: Next we have "Gigantimax Gengar".
Me: oh no
"it's not super fast"
Me: *laughs in my Corviknight goes first in almost any fight it gets into, even against fast Pokémon*
Me: *Laughs in my Dragapult*
Me: *laughs in bolthound*
Me: *Continues to laugh in Dragapult because it has a higher base speed than Boltund but sweats nervously because it’s possible to transfer Deoxys Speed to SwSh*
Itz Ya Game Ace I don’t have a dragonpault oof
@Zorro Sarkar The only way to get it is via it’s pre-evolutions, Dreepy or Drakloak, and those have the absurdly low spawn rate of 1% at the lake of outrage. So you can’t really be blamed if you didn’t actively try to search for one. I really wanted one so I went to the lake of outrage and within 5-10mins a Drakloak spawned at lvl60 so I just rare candied it once and it evolved into Dragapult. So if you do want a Dragapult, go to the lake of outrage and search until you find a Dreepy or Drakloak, and then get it to lvl60 to evolve it into Dragapult which should be easy because assuming you beat the game, all wild area spawns will be lvl60 so you will only have to rare candy it twice if it’s a Dreepy or once if it’s Drakloak. If you haven’t beaten the game, then well just add Dreepy/Drakloak to your party and wait for it to evolve. Note: To get to the lake of outrage you must have beaten Gordie/Melony and you’ll get the water bike on your way to Spikemuth, and then once you’ve got it you can go to Hammerlocke Hills and there will be a lake to the right, cross that lake to the big island (it’s really a peninsula but i’ll just say island for clarification) and in those patches of grass you should find Dreepy/Drakloak.
*GameFreak:* guys LOOK we have GIGANTAMAX POKEMON! Look at all these cool new moves, designs, and-
*Michael:* I'm about to end this company's WHOLE career.
Me: *gets appletun* :( I wanted the big thicc boi
My shiny G-Max Drednaw: Are you offending me?
11:26
Clear Body: Am I a joke to you?
“No other Pokémon get steel stealth rocks”
Spikes:
*am I a joke to you?*
Spikes aren't a Steel-Type Stealth Rock.
Spikes aren't Steel Stealth Rocks. Spikes don't take into account type effectiveness, while GMax Copperajah's do
It would be cool if Steel Spikes was a move that could be more diverse
I’d also like to add that having a regular Duralodon is better since there’s a chance that the opponent will be using a fighting type, a type that prioritizes physical attacks. It definitely helps since Duralodon is weak to fighting.
Who else thought that Michael was really sarcastic when he talked about Gengar
Hears about gravity....
My gengar that misses gen 7 sableye with gravity plus the terrains more easy to handle be like:
😱😱😱😱😱
G max Orbeetle is really good in doubles if used properly. The accuracy boost is mainly for teammates rather than Orbeetle itself. And it's easy to pivot to them since it has u-turn.
When you make the the original effects so overpowered that you can’t come up with anything better
Did you like my brother's meme on ASPITPIAY "Hug me brotha". I'm not lying I swear he is my brother.
EE10_ Ezzeddin_ noice
that probably isn’t your meme
@@ultradelta2908 no it's his brothers
Ultra Delta no, it’s his brothers. He clearly says that
I was willing to believe you until you said, “I’m not lying.” Don’t go out of your way like that if you don’t want to look like a liar.
This should be updated with the new G-Max forms introduced in IoA. Would be interesting to get your take on those ones as well.
Me after seeing this vid: "My mind's telling me nooooo!!... BUT MY BODY! MY BODYYYY'S TELLING ME YESSSSSSSS!!!!"
I miss MegaEvolutions, I hope they'll bring them back.
2
Years
Later
Hope no longer my friend
G-max beffudle: I fear no man
But that*Thing*
Toxtricity with vital sprirt
It scares me
Well, Sandaconda's ability kicks up a sandstorm whenever it's attacked anyway.
Hiddden ability
@@308719236 I've seen it on every Sandaconda I've faced in the raids, so YAY!!!
"however if you're fighting against a real person..." So the other one's better then?
A few things that where overlooked
Machamp: You Really did undermined how much boosting moves are used in competitive, with things like a calm mind, and Bulk up or even Assault vest, being part of almost every battel(yes even in doubles where Boosting moves aren’t as popular but They do see occasional play). So I think Chi-Strike should hav been a tossup
Pikachu, Eevee and Meowth: You’re not gonna be using these Pokémon unless you’re using the Gigantamax, why would you use Pikachu to set up electric terrain when you can use Tapu Koko.You’re never going to use the Dinamax of these Pokémon because They’re too weak to be used normally. The Gigantamax automatically wins because you’re never going to use the Dynamaxes of these Pokémon
Drednaw: Stealth rocks Probably the most influential thing to ever be put to competitive Pokémon other than weather in generation five, being able to set up rocks for three turns means that the enemy cannot Rapid spin or defog them for three turns, and they can’t even switch the Pokémon in because it’ll probably die to Drednaws attack, and by the time your Dynamax is up You can switch into something that will counter there defogger, because with team preview it’s pretty easy to tell what’s a defogger.So then the enemy has to make the decision do I risk not out speeding and losing my defogger just to have a chance to get rid of the rocks, or do I switch out and have to deal with Rocks later.While rain does help because of Swift swim, Dreadnaw Still has a pretty bad special defense And seeing as water which is mainly a special attack type, getting a 50% boost is not going to help him because he gets no coverage for water types
Machamp's Chi-Strike being stackable should have been mentioned as well. It's the only crit ratio booster in the game that can be stacked with itself.
What you basically said about Pikacu, Eevee and Meowth, was that they are novelty G-Max forms. It doesn't matter what their move is, because you don't have them because they're good in battle, you have them because they're cool and unique.
As for Drednaw, I agree that rocks are impactful (at least in single battles). But they are not so important that you should use your Dmax/Gmax for them. Stealth Rocks are usually set early on in the battle, while you certainly don't want to use your Dynamax/Gmax right away in a single battle, so the move is not very synergetic. And since Swift Swim can very potentially let you sweep a big chunk of the enemy team, it's too strong to pass just for an entry hazard that could be set without spending a valuable single use asset. Anyway, why is Drednaw's G-max move Water instead of Rock type, since it sets Stealth Rocks? If it was Rock, it would be really synergising with Swift Swim, since it would enable you to use your second STAB while Gmaxed without changing the weather. Swift Swim Drednaw is a scary sweeper in singles, but using Max Rockfall is usually a bit problematic.
In double battles, I guess Gmax Drednaw might be a bit better than regular, since you'll be setting the rain with Pelipper or Politoed anyway and thus wouldn't really care about the effect of Max Geyser. In doubles it's also much more common to Dmax right at the start, so you could get a bit of benefit from the rocks that you wouldn't otherwise be setting, because they are not that impactful on doubles. really could screw up a player that has for example a Charizard on the back, and most likely isn't prepared with boots, defog or rapid spin. But the effect would be generally quite weak compared to something like Volcalith or Wildfire, which are great in double battles.
@@wombat4191 if you’re using Drednaw on your team that means you are probably already using Peliper or Politoed which auto sets up rain, you don’t need to use one of Drednaws Dynamax turns to set up rain if its already set up, even in Singles where Peliper is used a lot. Being able to set up pretty much uncontested Rocks later in the game if they’ve been removed via Rapid spin or Defog is very nice utility. Especially if you’re able to attack for huge damage, potentially grabbing a KO, while setting them.
22:13 that GrimSnarl can kick you to next week damn
Fun drinking game, take a shot every time Michael says either "inferior" or "superior" in this video
*alcohol poisoning*
Jacob Carroll or “subsequent”
Yeah...no. Nice Red pic from Adventures/Special, by the by.
@@starberrysparkler Thanks, he's my fave trainer👌
Hammered In Five Sips
If you look at vgc when Gmax Charizard was released, Mikey was wrong. The fire spin effect carries over which I think is why he thought it wasn’t as useful. Gmax wild fire’s effect turned roles into guarantees and decided games. Max flare effectively has no secondary effect after it is used the first time. It just gets boosted by the sun.
Micheal: Fails gigantamax Drednaw
Micheal: Posts: Gigantimax Pokemon you don’t want. Puts Drednaw in the thumbnail.
Coincidence?
I think not!
“All Max and G-Max moves have a secondary effect besides just causing initial damage.”
*wHeN wIlL yOu LeArN, tHaT yOuR AcTiOnS hAvE CoNsEqUeNsCeS!!!*
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@@kakaks32 It's a vine reference I think
It’s from some kid ranting about sonic
G-max Inteleon be like: Haha gun go brrrr
G-Max Chi Strike sounded like G-Max *Cheese* Strike when I looked away while he was saying the name of the move XD
And to think of the fact I'm disappointed about my beloved Drednaw who can't Gigamax?
I hope a new item that makes Pokémon able to gigantamax will be introduced
Dreadnaw can Gigantamax
Imabanana0914 Bananas You have to catch one that can. Only way to get one currently is through max raid battles, not regular encounters.
Honestly I'm baffled about him saying Dreadnaw G-Max isn't worth. S-Rocks + Damage is insane, then again he's a casual player so i guess it wont be that important for him.
Michael Shumard well he’s a retired(probably inexpereienced) competitive player, so I see why he doesn’t know that it’s actually really good
There should be an Electric-Bug(or flying) type Pokémon called “butterfry”. It is a butterfly, but it’s antennas are kinda like pikachu’s tail, and have lightning bolt shaped antennas
If it's called ButterFRY, I'd say theming it around the fire type seems more logical. Could be a future regional variant...
Love your vids! Can't wait till Saturday for Pokemon Talk, highlight of the month I tell you!
@PugLavender666 That is the most perfect user name ive ever seen
I love Pokemon Talk.
Michael: Having the hail set up is also definitely nICE
Heh
@@marro15 XD ahahahahahaha
That got me good
Mystic Mew with its non existent fingers
Also can please have video stamp
10:29
Adam Stewart thank you Stewart
G-Max Wildfire and Stonesurge probably would be better tho if you're already using a Sun or Rain setter. Also G-Max Gravitas best use would probably be to make sure you get the full benefit of Sticky Web since Orbeetle can use that move. Still situational tho.
I was actually considering replacing my drednaw just so I can Gigantamax, good thing i found this video