what he said in video is nonsense , the real reason why China government banned motorcycle is because of pollution , not because of face ..... now almost all city motorcycles are banned ,only E-bike are allowed .
@@caughtinprovidence7197 cars, vans, trucks, busses etc are all much worse than motorbikes for pollution … of it was truly about pollution they'd ban cars and encourage more people to buy motorbikes
Agreed, and as Winston's closing commen makes clear, they still drive like assholes even when using cars rather than motorcycles. Driver's licenses are just a cash grab by the state. No one is being trained to be a safe and respectful driver, and the police are not cracking down on dangerous driving or excessive honking.
I am a foreigner Shanghai with a passion for bikes as well, I purchased a Honda CRF250R from at the Fengchi motorcycle store and licensed it out of Shanghai in a near by province like your bike. The rules in Shanghai are bikes are allowed into the city centre after 9pm on weekdays and from 1pm on weekends. If you drive a cheap bike you will get stopped regardless but ride a bike like a Ducati or a imported bike like mine the police will typically turn a blind eye you even if you break the laws on bikes in the city centre. In China in defiantly makes sense to have a bike, it's the best feeling in the world when you can filter past a super car stuck in traffic
+Martin Lee 马丁神龙 that's what china is known for around the world... massive traffic jams and pollution. they're just going to make it worse with this ban and they will reduce the productivity of citys because workers will have a hard time getting transport to their workplace
Absolutely - when everyone was "driving" only a bicycle in Cities of China, traffic was completely manageable. Motor bikes made it worse, and now everyone driving their own car would be a total disaster for China city traffic congestion. Actually China government has it backwards. Bicycle = good, cars = bad, not the other way around. There is no way they can ever solve ever worsening traffic congestion if they promote everyone to have a car in cities of China.
But bicycle is not practical all year around and at every weather. The real solution to traffic is public transit. A dense bus network with stops every 500m and a rapid transit network for larger cities, with every bus line operating on a 5 to 10 minute schedule during the day. A bad transit network is nearly slower than walking, but a good one will get you anywhere in the maximum of 40 minutes for a city of 1 Mio, 60 minutes for a city of 3 Mio. Of course motorcycle ban is a tool of gentrification, it has nothing to do with traffic.
Reason #4 - Pollution. Bikes are quite bad polluters, especially the low-grade-low-cost type most commonly ridden in China. Removing the bikes from the road removes quite a lot of pollution. You are correct about the electric bikes main purpose. People buy them to get around the motorbike laws, and they are quite cheap methods of transportation, however, they also have the issues above, minus the pollution (Though that can be questioned due to the battery disposal).
Yes, Winston, it is kinda funny when you describe the town or street as shit or crap or whatever, but it is rather rude. Most of the country is like that or much worse, as you know better than most of us. Maybe lay off the derogatory comments a bit. For someone who loves the country so much, he sure uses a lot of derogatory terminology.
@@pdoctor1 ha ha you are so funny, thank for telling me about my life, perfect stranger who knows nothing. I was agreeing with you and supporting your comment, you silly person. For your information, I have lived in various Asian countries for 6 years, and had a wonderful time, living in tiny villages and exploring back roads and small towns. Maybe you should read carefully before becoming so eagerly offended.
It takes several generations for a country to drive better; I watched as South Korea went through the same process - back in 1985 the country had just started putting in highways between cities, and they hosted the Olympics. At that time transportation was mostly public buses on the road, and trains between cities. Traffic on the streets was mostly taxis - rich businesses could afford a Bongo truck (very small blue pickup); everyone else made do with bicycles and motorbikes - You frequently saw bikes with large stacks of boxes strapped on the rack. Only the rich could afford personal cars. Fast forward five years and things changed drastically - everyone had a car, and there were many different special purpose trucks and vans available. The problem was, everyone (except some seasoned taxi drivers) was a new driver, and added to that was the fact that the roads within the cities didn't have the capacity for all those cars, and a lot of back alleys were narrow and winding. Driving was quite an adventure in the early 90's. Fast forward five more years and newer cities were built with grid pattern roads; many older cities demolished whole lines of houses to put in more grid like roads. Drivers were much better, but in rural areas cars were still a new thing so driving could still get fun at times. But if you visit Korea today, drivers are much safer than they used to be; I am sure that China will go through the same progression - one thing i would worry about a bit is the culture that ignores preventative maintenance.
I wish every person who was hating on chinese traffic would read this damn comment. It's like people don't realize the kind of transformation china is going through, and all they can see is just beyond their nose. Have you ever seen video footage of US cities when the automobile was recently introduced? (Rethorical question, but to illustrate that it is the kind of process that any country goes through). Just give it a few years.
Nice explanation and insights from south korea. Do they enforce traffic laws like they do in the west. I.e. partol car are about in the streets so if you do something wrong they can fine you? Like ADV say in their vids, it's mostly unenforced so I can't help but think without the idea that a policeman could be around the corner, people won't take traffic laws seriously. Also did S Korea have as quick jump to cars? Like if in China the roads are always busy, people will always try to cut in so even if u try to obey the laws you get punnished by the bad behaviour of others.
i've heard from serpentZA in one of his videos that driver's ed classes do not teach students to check their blind spots, use their mirrors, or many other defensive driving rules. therefore, new drivers are not prepared properly. i believe he said they are taught to read signs and so forth but not given the full scope of instructions.
Come Jan 20 in the US, we're gonna have public policy determined by whether or not a fat guy with orange hair likes this or that or if he has stock holdings in a particular company or country.
It has nothing to do with face. Bicycles are "poorer" yet nobody bans these. Motorcycle are noisy and pumps out noxious fumes. That's the real reason big cities ban them. You don't want to walk along a crowded city street besides hordes of loud motorcycles spewing noxious fumes.
what he said in video is absolutely nonsense , the real reason why China government banned motorcycle is because of pollution , not because of face ..... China wants to go green , now almost all city motorcycles are banned ,only E-bike are allowed .
its funny until recently I lived in one of the most expensive suburbs of Sydney and all the young people have scooters. SUV's are frowned on for chewing up hard to find parking spaces and for being polluters. Even the council has special parking for motorbikes. That being said I have a few motorbikes (no scooters) and they are all well maintained and shine like the day they were made.
SerpentZA, holy shit, please buy and use Cubase or many other programs to choose, audio production software so you can EQ (equalize) your sound levels, to make s you're not blowing up your followers' ear drums. Thank you and "stay awesome".
sorry, i do but never realized until looking at the time stamp after your reply :( I think I will blame it on my intoxicated state while viewing lol. Keep up the good work, you're the best SerpentZA. stay awesome
that is absolutely absurd. One of the most stupid things I've heard in a long time...motorcycles spend half the gas, pollute much less and dont cause massive traffic jams...
Your point is correct on condition that all cyclists obey the rules strictly, which are not the case in most part of China. Imagine you drive in a car with motorcycles running around you randomly. I bet you would agree to ban the motorcycles if you are a car driver.
+ZHANG CY Sure you are right. What you say makes perfect sense. I thank your useful insight. Nevertheless i think you have other solutions then just ban motorcycles altogether. For instance; the government could implement the need for a mandatory licence (with that specific problem in mind) in order to ride, so that only properly licensed riders could ride in the city. I suppose in China's society that would not be very well accepted but I'm also sure its better then the ban. I hate the idea of forbidding a determined vehicle just because it a mess to solve the problem and chance mentalities. *of course that, for someone who loves. motorcycles, like me,im not the most unbiased of parties.....😋
Vasco Pais Brandão chinese peopel are not as easily cow in and force in blind obedience as whites are...whatever the govt say they just nod in agreement and then...continue to just do as they please haha
Vasco Pais Brandão That's really a complex issue. As you know, motorbikes are usually chosen as transport by people with low income, like factory workers. Another typical characteristic of this group is that, they have not received good education and often have very limited vision. They usually only care about immediate interests such as they don't buy helmets to save money and they has no consideration for the whole society. They are not to be blamed for such thing as it's caused by their economic status. But it can be very dangerous with motorbikes chaos on roads. Data has shown a considerably high portion of accidents involve such motorbikers. Drive licence policies has been took for a long time, but it really hard to supervise. And reality show that this doesn't solve the problems effectively. The banning action are made as a balance. As the cities get richer, citizens are better educated and more behaved, and these banning rules are also abandoned in some places like Beijing. In Beijing, banning rules are replaced by restricted rules, which means you can ride a motorbike legally as long as you have a driving license and with proper protections on. The only difficulty is that, to ride in downtown your motorbike must have a lisence plate starting with 京A, which is hard to get. But in suburbs, you are just free to ride.
E-bikes are an amazing tool that allow even the poor people to move around at low cost. Riding an e-bike to work is cheaper, faster and more convenient than taking a bus or riding a bicycle. The fact that the people don't respect the rules and make the traffic shittier is true. But in my opinion that can be solved better law enforcement. I myself live in China in a 3rd tier city and for commutes up to 5 km e-bike is simply the best. Restricting a fast and cheap mode of transport is contraproductive and might negatively influence the economic output.
I am enjoying your tales of life in China. I have a home in Zhuhai and I travel back and forth to the states. When I am not in China, I enjoy watching your videos. My wife has family in Shenzhen, maybe a Castle Lager some day?
Wow.. I disagree. I've lived in Suzhou for almost 2 years, SIP is a great area with well laid-out streets and separate lanes for Ebikes and bikes. The city looks great and Ebikes and Motorcycles do not make it look bad. They are encouraged and are a viable means of transportation for the masses, foreigners and locals alike.
the thing is, a lawful society works almost like herd immunity from vaccination. Enough people obey the law to make it the norm. You don't have to catch every criminal because people don't go breaking the law as soon as the cops are gone. In china, however, the norm is that you break the traffic rules unless there's a cop around. Until that norm somehow changes things'll stay this way
In my city, motorcycles are banned since 2001, and only cars, trucks, bicycles and othervehicles are allowed in the city, but motorcycles are completely banned and if you break that rule, you could be sentenced to jail for 10 to 20 years, or you can pay the expensive debt.
About Five-year rule at 07:53, I want to correct something. The actual situation is that you can drive a 5+ year car in those cities(if your car meet the emission standard). I think the 5 five-year rule is about second hand car registration, for example, a 5+ year vehicle in a three-tier city could not be registered in first-tier city like Shanghai (have a Shanghai license plate). Like your channel, a good place to know China.
I saw ebikes being widely used in Shanghai and Beijing. Are they only banned above a certain power? I rode on the back of one along with a grandma, my suitcase, and a large backpack. I must say it was fairly terrifying.
my father is a traffic police in a small town, according to him, a large percentage of traffic accident is involving bikes. he personally hate those bikers without respect to traffic rules.
Actually I think they are wrong with an image problem. Just think about if they get rid of bikes, scooters and motorcycles.Then can you imagine the gridlock/traffic problems they will have then and if they think that they have a pollution problem now,just wait till they add cars instead of bikes. Just my 2 cents.....peace
They should do some documentation on the rural countryside. It's less glamorous but the air is 10x better and no dead pigs in the rivers. At least in the places where factories haven't taken over yet.
I think the chaos and the nonsense on those roads can be partly blamed on the amount of people there in the first place. The only problem with e-bikes is that they are smaller and can weave in and out of traffic and the people who ride them are more likely to ignore red lights - as we saw towards the end of the video, and it's no surprise that the government has been messing around with the traffic laws
Just a FYI to subscribers. Shanghai has no motorbike bans that I know of. You will see Harley Davidsons or should i see hear haha. Ducati's, Yamahas, Hondas, etc. Expats/Foreigners ride old reconditioned German bikes with sidecars. There are some restrictions of where you can ride it. All it takes is money to own and ride a motorbike. There are services that will help you get a license. Imported bikes are not cheap. Some are double the cost vs. usa for the same bikes.
Winston, I hope you don't get any trouble with Chinese authorities, because of the negative stuff you tell us in the videos, i mean your subscriptions go up so fast, you are spreading the news to more and more people you know...you are cool and i like to watch your videos so I don't want you to *disappear* ;-)
All those reasons are true....yet if you go to large cities like Saigon in Vietnam, you'll be glad this menace is banned in downtown bigger cities here : Its simply being swamped by tidal waves of bikes and scooters bearing down a road --- I've once had to wait 40 minutes just to be able to cross a road at a pedestrian crossing there (I didn't know you're just supposed to simply start walking straight across slowly and steadily, and they will swerve round you !)
Of course, it's good for everyone except the poor people that depend on the motorbikes for their livelihoods. It also means the cost of doing business goes up as moving things into and out of cities becomes more difficult. It's a tempting instinct to do away with poverty by banning and outlawing the things that poor people do.
So what they should do is enforce road rules. As Serpentza said, they would not be better divers if they had cars. They just don't like seeing poor people.
Bestoink Dooley I've experienced that in Bangkok, Thailand. 24hour rush "hour" and just a sea... no make that a swamp of cars everywhere. Putting the masses into personal cars is a nightmare... need wider roads, several times more parking space. Build more roads, great more cars so need more roads soon after the new road open.
Reason #2 - Thefts FROM the bike. I have seen this happen dozens of times in China, and is seriously under-policed. Snatch-and-grabs are so common people wear bags in ways to prevent this, as opposed to just holding a bag in the hand. Reason #3 - Thefts OF the bike - Since bikes are quite simple to steal as opposed to cars and provide quick cash since they are easy to sell, they are very often stolen. This is bad for economic purposes, as well as just bad for the people in China in general.
Nicely done video. Lots of good footage. I like the picture-in-picture when you were explaining. 4:00 Why do you have bikes registered in different cities?
As I know, Shenzhen where you live in is divided into two parts. One of them the motor bike was banned, and another (where Buji belongs to that part) was allowed. And there are many people ride electric motor bike instead of it. Because it is unsafe to the traffic. There are many accidents caused by motor bike. In china the drivers manner are terrible bad.
I agree 100%! I also live here in Shenzhen Nanshan and traffic laws just don't exist. I drives me mad!!!!! I love the Chinese people but I feel sometimes they have tunnel vision. When a car/ bike is turning right onto a street, they never ever EVER look left at oncoming traffic. I see the shit bikes run into people and cars because no one wants to just stop their wheels from spinning. I don't know if it will every change.
I live in Xi'an. They're banned here too but I live right near the edge of the city. Just shy of what you refer to as the gray area. I used to ride in and around the city, no problems for over a year then last year I had my bike taken from me three times by police. Got it back the next day with a 100 kuai 'fine' and a 'naughty boy' speech. Now I keep my bike for the country side and my e-bike for the inner city.
Hello : I've made three trips to China in the past two years and I can say without question that there are many motorcycle and all the cities I was in.
Public transportation is very convenient and considerably cheap in most of Chinese cities. Private Car is a sign of better life but not so necessary as in US. Few years ago I was in Kular Lumpor of Malaysia, just 1 hour drive from its Capital's CBD, but public bus is coming every 3 hours. This would never happen in China. Most Chinese buses should arrive every 15 minutes.
Main reason from the government version probably has a lot to do with pollution. A majority of two wheeled engine powered vehicles (motorcycles, and even in some cases scooters) put out more pollution that vehicles do. As a matter of fact a motorcycle of not much more than 600cc puts out more pollution that almost all sports cars, or any non-diesel truck/suv.
ebikes have come to the states. been riding them for ten years. over volting gets you 20 to 30 mph for 20 miles. your videos explain questions i'v had sbout qualty issues. and the constant fraud we had to look out for endless-sphere. is a good forum for ebikes
LOL! Yep that reminds me of a tamer driving situation around the factory areas. I cannot see China having cars for every family or even worse every citizen. The volume of people there would cause a grid lock and pollution and no one can get anywhere. They really do need to have the motorbikes and bicycles stay as part of the norm.
If you lived in Guangzhou several years ago when bike was not banned, you will fine the robbery a headache. The robbers are cunning and hard to be caught because they can hide themselves in a bunch of bikes or a small street in the city before and after the crime. Now they don't have this advantage. They can now only rely on there foot a small van which make them a much larger target. It is a hard to manage an army of unlicensed bikes but it is much easier to caught a car without license.
As with every other country? It's the tourists job to learn about and adhere to the laws in the country he/she visits. If you're a Dutch tourist visiting The UK, you can't just walk around smoking pot, it's still illegal in the UK regardless if you are a tourist or citizen, right? Same applies for everything.
I think his opinions and observations are objective. We sure do not like outside criticism with political agenda, but he lives in China and he is objective about all the problems in China.
I live in Yiwu Zhejiang province and there are lots of foreigners here. I can say that the motocycles are really dangerous... People ride them on the sidewalk, they go between 2 cars and they don't stop in the redlight... They also ride them on the wrong side of the traffic. I don't drive in China because it scares and the motorbikes always appear from nowhere. But it does look poor too...
Yeah, just ban them! :-S Ironic how in the west the push is toward integrated use of both bikes & motor vehicles! The concept of dual use w/ allocated bike & motor vehicle (car) lanes as a sensible alternative apparently confuses those for whom banning one or the other is an 'answer'. Its absurd that everyone be required to drive a car in tier 1 cities where they can barely accommodate the traffic they already have! Mixed use would be a sensible alternative providing advantages for all.
acturally，the main reason is that it causes pollution as its engine is some kind of 2-stroke engine. it's a matter of the imperfect combustion of fuel.
Your video is interesting, china banning motorcycles are they stupid, I always considered the Chinese to be very intelligent people, but you have highlighted a very stupid Chinese govt. Cars cause a huge amount of pollution and traffic problems, motorcycles rather than ban them it would make more sense to enforce a cleaning program on all vehicles. Also just a point, it is the factories and the people that work in them that makes china so much money, no workers no money they should embrace them.
The noise of motorbikes in Italy and France is horrid horrid because the lads either take the muffler off, poke holes in it or take out the baffles and turn it into an amplifier like a trumpet. Ditto for Australia especially Harley D bikes which have click on mufflers which is secret code for click off.
Oh just a couple other things, most other countries are looking at ways to make better use of motorcycles to cut pollution to cut congestion, and to cut crime. Be they powered by electricity or some fossil fuel, they are by far the best way to protect the environment and keep our streets free to move around in. Could you imagine what it would be like if all those motorcyclists took to the road in cars in those cities? They want glitz they will have carbon dust hanging off every sign.
Do you know why? Also, maybe motorcycles produce more pollution per unit of fuel than heavier vehicles, but they use far less fuel than heavier vehicles, so the amount of pollution per passenger should be lower.
No Motorbikes!! Forget living in China. I lived in HCMC, Vietnam 2010-15 and loved riding my motorbike everywhere I went. No high cost, either, unless you wanted to ride a Big Superbike.
Yeah, you can say it is partly because of the new "image" desired by China. But the real reason is huge amount of people vs. limited traffic resources like roads. Starting from 10:30, the video by itself perfectly explains why motorbikes are banned. Just imagine replace all the bicycles and e-bikes with motorbikes in this little town, the traffic will become chaos, let alone in the downtown of Shenzhen or Beijing. Many problems in China are caused by people competing for social resources.
The bikes aren't the issue for those towns image, nearly as much as these other issues. As for why I believe the bike laws exist, here are my thoughts: Reason #1- Riding bikes is very unsafe in China. People don't look here when driving, they just go. People on bikes are less protected, therefore, they end up with more injuries than those in car accidents. You know living in China, that people are very unlikely to care about bikers, they will hit them.
I am trained to a higher level of driving than the normal UK public and actually I prefer driving in China I feel the traffic flows well and the roads are spacious but I am talking about the far NE and that may as well be a different planet to where you are. Bit miffed as my wife mentioned they were banning bikes in the city I`m moving to and I want to commute via motorbike passion and ease the same as you
you should watch other video the uploader made, this guy really like China. As a Chinese live in America, I found it is very interseting to hear what other people think about my homeland.
You make some valid points however I live in nanjing and ride an r1200r just pay double the price and pay 80k for a license plate. Problem is it's exp3nsive and the license system is shocking I heard stories of people riding an electric scooter to pass a license test. Oh well stuff China I'm moving home to continue riding
Very insightful video. Spot on that it has to do with image/propaganda of trying to pony up to America's own superficial image. In America, riding public bus is associated with being poor. I hadn't made the connection that in Asia, riding motorbikes was poor. That's mind blowing. It's all relative. I suppose if you can already afford a car and then get a motorbike for recreation, then you can take it for granted. But if you never had the privilege of owning a car, then that's all you know.
But motorcycles and scooters get better milage and create less pollution. Why lug a big car around if only one or 2 persons are going some place. It also relieves traffic congestion. Oh wait, I see now. That looked like Vietnam.
What I saw was a lo of people who apparently had different destinations using small motorbikes as an inexpensive option to an automobile. which would cause more congestion because they are larger. Everyone should have a moped ! At least one!
"chaos" is thousands of people moving so much more efficiently and effectively than if they were all in cars That chaos is seen as incredible urban planning in northern Europe and what North American cities would love to have. You can't have a city of shiny SUVs without gridlock.
i think the government shouldnt take all the responsibilities for the chaos on roads cuz mostly the e-bike riders are in age around 50 who've been less educated , they dont really know how dangerous it is when they break the rules, im chinese and i live in china and every time im driving and see a e-bike, i would stay as far as i can from them cuz you never know where they are gonna go next
If they allowed bikes and just started enforcing normal traffic rules they could greatly improve traffic, and that would go a long way toward improving the city's image.
I agree with most of your opinions，I‘m living in ShaJing town too,Here is what I think: 摩托车的速度太快一旦失控容易死人，以前还常被用来当作抢劫的工具,在深圳这种人多车杂的城市确实太危险；电动车速度慢质量也较轻，相对来说对路人的威胁就小多了。 但如果不遵守交通规则，于人于己都还是挺危险的。我觉得政府不能一味的禁止，而是要去积极引导，也许重罚不守规则的人是个不错的选择。
You know more than native ....................................................I m living in a medium sized city near shanghai. now studying in US east coast. I currently own a ducati panigale. I can only have this riding fun in US. However, scooter was very expensive in 15 years ago.
they must make sure that the alternatives can serve all of these people before banning or there will be a big traffic issue. how all of those people will get transports ? does the buses or other alternative able to serve all these number of people ?
I also live in the city where banned the motorcycle where is Fuzhou,Fujian province. And those motorcycle taxi told me that those policemen are going to finish their work.and they came out as soon as those police finished their work every day.
Thanks for giving me more and more reasons not to want to go to China. I'll experience it vicariously through your vlogs, and my Dad's work-related travels. :)
If you go to Taiwan one day, I hope you can talk about the restrictions of Motorcycles in Taiwan. In Taiwan, motorcycles which displacement under 250cc riding on expressway/highway was forbidden. And riding all the motorcycles on highway was forbidden. Moreover,when we want to left turn,to every foreigner's surprise,the government forced us to hook turn! The fast lane are also forbidden to motorcycles which displacement under 250cc.
It's sad because that is the poor's only means of transportation and sometimes their only means to a livelihood. However at the same time, the traffic at intersections caused by those bikes is ridiculous! I understand why they want to outlaw them but I'm certain there are other answers such as enforcing motor bikes to follow the same laws as cars. Banning them for the sake of image is probably effecting a lot of people quite negatively :(
As much as I love China, it has to be the worst place in the entire world when it comes to obeying traffic laws. I have been around the globe and I have never seen anything that comes close to China. I've never been to India, but I've seen videos where in the middle of big Indian roads, you have carts which are driven by Oxen and such things, but even an Indian Oxen-cart driver would cry after being shown a road in china. Absolutely ridiculous.
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quite opposite to the West where motobikers have above income. A motorbike is a toy for us
Same thing happens in big city like Shanghai, Ducati guys normally own their BMW at the same time. That's just a toy for them.
what he said in video is nonsense , the real reason why China government banned motorcycle is because of pollution , not because of face ..... now almost all city motorcycles are banned ,only E-bike are allowed .
@@caughtinprovidence7197 cars, vans, trucks, busses etc are all much worse than motorbikes for pollution … of it was truly about pollution they'd ban cars and encourage more people to buy motorbikes
@@caughtinprovidence7197 China could not care about pollution give me a break
Bikes are not the problem the way I see it. It is just crazy drivers with no respect for other drivers that are the problem.
Agreed, and as Winston's closing commen makes clear, they still drive like assholes even when using cars rather than motorcycles.
Driver's licenses are just a cash grab by the state. No one is being trained to be a safe and respectful driver, and the police are not cracking down on dangerous driving or excessive honking.
They could solve this problem with mandatory registration and yearly inspections, and by actually enforcing traffic laws.
I am a foreigner Shanghai with a passion for bikes as well, I purchased a Honda CRF250R from at the Fengchi motorcycle store and licensed it out of Shanghai in a near by province like your bike. The rules in Shanghai are bikes are allowed into the city centre after 9pm on weekdays and from 1pm on weekends. If you drive a cheap bike you will get stopped regardless but ride a bike like a Ducati or a imported bike like mine the police will typically turn a blind eye you even if you break the laws on bikes in the city centre. In China in defiantly makes sense to have a bike, it's the best feeling in the world when you can filter past a super car stuck in traffic
Daniel Hunt Are you still riding ? I’m interested on how (shanghai laowai too )
I'm a Chinese.Your videos are so good.I think you know a lot of things about China.
Fact check quote
"Every moving vehicle in china cause accidents" So true
"They only have them repaired if they catastrophically break" Sadly true
But if every of these people was driving a car instead of a bike just imagine the pollution and traffic jams...
+Martin Lee 马丁神龙 that's what china is known for around the world... massive traffic jams and pollution. they're just going to make it worse with this ban and they will reduce the productivity of citys because workers will have a hard time getting transport to their workplace
***** so true and so sad.
Martin Lee 马丁神龙 You mean like LA? But at least people stop for red lights there.
Absolutely - when everyone was "driving" only a bicycle in Cities of China, traffic was completely manageable. Motor bikes made it worse, and now everyone driving their own car would be a total disaster for China city traffic congestion. Actually China government has it backwards. Bicycle = good, cars = bad, not the other way around. There is no way they can ever solve ever worsening traffic congestion if they promote everyone to have a car in cities of China.
But bicycle is not practical all year around and at every weather. The real solution to traffic is public transit. A dense bus network with stops every 500m and a rapid transit network for larger cities, with every bus line operating on a 5 to 10 minute schedule during the day. A bad transit network is nearly slower than walking, but a good one will get you anywhere in the maximum of 40 minutes for a city of 1 Mio, 60 minutes for a city of 3 Mio.
Of course motorcycle ban is a tool of gentrification, it has nothing to do with traffic.
Reason #4 - Pollution. Bikes are quite bad polluters, especially the low-grade-low-cost type most commonly ridden in China. Removing the bikes from the road removes quite a lot of pollution.
You are correct about the electric bikes main purpose. People buy them to get around the motorbike laws, and they are quite cheap methods of transportation, however, they also have the issues above, minus the pollution (Though that can be questioned due to the battery disposal).
dont use harsh words,areas u traveled r clean and even roads r good.i m an indian,if u want to see shit load of bikes come to india,especially pune.
Yes, Winston, it is kinda funny when you describe the town or street as shit or crap or whatever, but it is rather rude. Most of the country is like that or much worse, as you know better than most of us. Maybe lay off the derogatory comments a bit. For someone who loves the country so much, he sure uses a lot of derogatory terminology.
@@GaryLePleb ur a trol .u dont know how to enjoy the life given to u.
@@pdoctor1 ha ha you are so funny, thank for telling me about my life, perfect stranger who knows nothing. I was agreeing with you and supporting your comment, you silly person. For your information, I have lived in various Asian countries for 6 years, and had a wonderful time, living in tiny villages and exploring back roads and small towns. Maybe you should read carefully before becoming so eagerly offended.
Those roads are shit. And he was in a shitty town. What do you expect from communist or third world countries.
@@GaryLePleb miss communication lol
It takes several generations for a country to drive better; I watched as South Korea went through the same process - back in 1985 the country had just started putting in highways between cities, and they hosted the Olympics. At that time transportation was mostly public buses on the road, and trains between cities. Traffic on the streets was mostly taxis - rich businesses could afford a Bongo truck (very small blue pickup); everyone else made do with bicycles and motorbikes - You frequently saw bikes with large stacks of boxes strapped on the rack. Only the rich could afford personal cars. Fast forward five years and things changed drastically - everyone had a car, and there were many different special purpose trucks and vans available. The problem was, everyone (except some seasoned taxi drivers) was a new driver, and added to that was the fact that the roads within the cities didn't have the capacity for all those cars, and a lot of back alleys were narrow and winding. Driving was quite an adventure in the early 90's.
Fast forward five more years and newer cities were built with grid pattern roads; many older cities demolished whole lines of houses to put in more grid like roads. Drivers were much better, but in rural areas cars were still a new thing so driving could still get fun at times. But if you visit Korea today, drivers are much safer than they used to be; I am sure that China will go through the same progression - one thing i would worry about a bit is the culture that ignores preventative maintenance.
I wish every person who was hating on chinese traffic would read this damn comment. It's like people don't realize the kind of transformation china is going through, and all they can see is just beyond their nose. Have you ever seen video footage of US cities when the automobile was recently introduced? (Rethorical question, but to illustrate that it is the kind of process that any country goes through). Just give it a few years.
Nice explanation and insights from south korea.
Do they enforce traffic laws like they do in the west.
I.e. partol car are about in the streets so if you do something wrong they can fine you? Like ADV say in their vids, it's mostly unenforced so I can't help but think without the idea that a policeman could be around the corner, people won't take traffic laws seriously.
Also did S Korea have as quick jump to cars? Like if in China the roads are always busy, people will always try to cut in so even if u try to obey the laws you get punnished by the bad behaviour of others.
India is undergoing that right now & its horribleeee
i've heard from serpentZA in one of his videos that driver's ed classes do not teach students to check their blind spots, use their mirrors, or many other defensive driving rules. therefore, new drivers are not prepared properly. i believe he said they are taught to read signs and so forth but not given the full scope of instructions.
The bike's suspension is stiff because you use a hammer on the thing. Use a rubber mallet, not a hammer.
Wow - public policy determined by image and "face".....
Come Jan 20 in the US, we're gonna have public policy determined by whether or not a fat guy with orange hair likes this or that or if he has stock holdings in a particular company or country.
That happens everywhere.
It has nothing to do with face. Bicycles are "poorer" yet nobody bans these. Motorcycle are noisy and pumps out noxious fumes. That's the real reason big cities ban them. You don't want to walk along a crowded city street besides hordes of loud motorcycles spewing noxious fumes.
Don't motorcycles emit less pollution than cars, which are considerably heavier?
what he said in video is absolutely nonsense , the real reason why China government banned motorcycle is because of pollution , not because of face ..... China wants to go green , now almost all city motorcycles are banned ,only E-bike are allowed .
its funny until recently I lived in one of the most expensive suburbs of Sydney and all the young people have scooters. SUV's are frowned on for chewing up hard to find parking spaces and for being polluters. Even the council has special parking for motorbikes. That being said I have a few motorbikes (no scooters) and they are all well maintained and shine like the day they were made.
SerpentZA, holy shit, please buy and use Cubase or many other programs to choose, audio production software so you can EQ (equalize) your sound levels, to make s you're not blowing up your followers' ear drums. Thank you and "stay awesome".
+Petar Vitanovic newer vids are better
sorry, i do but never realized until looking at the time stamp after your reply :( I think I will blame it on my intoxicated state while viewing lol. Keep up the good work, you're the best SerpentZA. stay awesome
I am impressed with anyone that can video edit at all. You are all an inspiration to me. Perhaps some day I may jump in.
I mean,
why cubase?
this video is 4 years old mate...
that is absolutely absurd. One of the most stupid things I've heard in a long time...motorcycles spend half the gas, pollute much less and dont cause massive traffic jams...
+Vasco Pais Brandão and half the gas is generous...most bike will use more like the quarter particularly in dense urban zone
Your point is correct on condition that all cyclists obey the rules strictly, which are not the case in most part of China. Imagine you drive in a car with motorcycles running around you randomly. I bet you would agree to ban the motorcycles if you are a car driver.
+ZHANG CY Sure you are right. What you say makes perfect sense. I thank your useful insight. Nevertheless i think you have other solutions then just ban motorcycles altogether. For instance; the government could implement the need for a mandatory licence (with that specific problem in mind) in order to ride, so that only properly licensed riders could ride in the city. I suppose in China's society that would not be very well accepted but I'm also sure its better then the ban. I hate the idea of forbidding a determined vehicle just because it a mess to solve the problem and chance mentalities. *of course that, for someone who loves. motorcycles, like me,im not the most unbiased of parties.....😋
Vasco Pais Brandão
chinese peopel are not as easily cow in and force in blind obedience as whites are...whatever the govt say they just nod in agreement and then...continue to just do as they please haha
Vasco Pais Brandão That's really a complex issue. As you know, motorbikes are usually chosen as transport by people with low income, like factory workers. Another typical characteristic of this group is that, they have not received good education and often have very limited vision. They usually only care about immediate interests such as they don't buy helmets to save money and they has no consideration for the whole society. They are not to be blamed for such thing as it's caused by their economic status. But it can be very dangerous with motorbikes chaos on roads. Data has shown a considerably high portion of accidents involve such motorbikers. Drive licence policies has been took for a long time, but it really hard to supervise. And reality show that this doesn't solve the problems effectively. The banning action are made as a balance. As the cities get richer, citizens are better educated and more behaved, and these banning rules are also abandoned in some places like Beijing. In Beijing, banning rules are replaced by restricted rules, which means you can ride a motorbike legally as long as you have a driving license and with proper protections on. The only difficulty is that, to ride in downtown your motorbike must have a lisence plate starting with 京A, which is hard to get. But in suburbs, you are just free to ride.
E-bikes are an amazing tool that allow even the poor people to move around at low cost. Riding an e-bike to work is cheaper, faster and more convenient than taking a bus or riding a bicycle. The fact that the people don't respect the rules and make the traffic shittier is true. But in my opinion that can be solved better law enforcement.
I myself live in China in a 3rd tier city and for commutes up to 5 km e-bike is simply the best.
Restricting a fast and cheap mode of transport is contraproductive and might negatively influence the economic output.
Well Spoke Martin! Well Spoke!
The problem isn't the e-bike...it's the fact that there are hundreds of them and they slow down as well as congest traffic.
But most of us are poor and we don't follow rules, so finally we will overwhelm traffic police.
I am enjoying your tales of life in China. I have a home in Zhuhai and I travel back and forth to the states. When I am not in China, I enjoy watching your videos. My wife has family in Shenzhen, maybe a Castle Lager some day?
Wow.. I disagree. I've lived in Suzhou for almost 2 years, SIP is a great area with well laid-out streets and separate lanes for Ebikes and bikes. The city looks great and Ebikes and Motorcycles do not make it look bad. They are encouraged and are a viable means of transportation for the masses, foreigners and locals alike.
the thing is, a lawful society works almost like herd immunity from vaccination. Enough people obey the law to make it the norm. You don't have to catch every criminal because people don't go breaking the law as soon as the cops are gone. In china, however, the norm is that you break the traffic rules unless there's a cop around. Until that norm somehow changes things'll stay this way
I miss your old motorcycles videos, your channel became more about how to live in China
+3BoOoDTV that's why I created my other channel only about motorcycle riding videos: th-cam.com/users/churchillcustoms
In my city, motorcycles are banned since 2001, and only cars, trucks, bicycles and othervehicles are allowed in the city, but motorcycles are completely banned and if you break that rule, you could be sentenced to jail for 10 to 20 years, or you can pay the expensive debt.
About Five-year rule at 07:53, I want to correct something. The actual situation is that you can drive a 5+ year car in those cities(if your car meet the emission standard). I think the 5 five-year rule is about second hand car registration, for example, a 5+ year vehicle in a three-tier city could not be registered in first-tier city like Shanghai (have a Shanghai license plate).
Like your channel, a good place to know China.
I saw ebikes being widely used in Shanghai and Beijing. Are they only banned above a certain power?
I rode on the back of one along with a grandma, my suitcase, and a large backpack. I must say it was fairly terrifying.
my father is a traffic police in a small town, according to him, a large percentage of traffic accident is involving bikes. he personally hate those bikers without respect to traffic rules.
Actually I think they are wrong with an image problem. Just think about if they get rid of bikes, scooters and motorcycles.Then can you imagine the gridlock/traffic problems they will have then and if they think that they have a pollution problem now,just wait till they add cars instead of bikes. Just my 2 cents.....peace
They should do some documentation on the rural countryside. It's less glamorous but the air is 10x better and no dead pigs in the rivers. At least in the places where factories haven't taken over yet.
I think the chaos and the nonsense on those roads can be partly blamed on the amount of people there in the first place. The only problem with e-bikes is that they are smaller and can weave in and out of traffic and the people who ride them are more likely to ignore red lights - as we saw towards the end of the video, and it's no surprise that the government has been messing around with the traffic laws
Just a FYI to subscribers. Shanghai has no motorbike bans that I know of. You will see Harley Davidsons or should i see hear haha. Ducati's, Yamahas, Hondas, etc.
Expats/Foreigners ride old reconditioned German bikes with sidecars.
There are some restrictions of where you can ride it.
All it takes is money to own and ride a motorbike. There are services that will help you get a license. Imported bikes are not cheap. Some are double the cost vs. usa for the same bikes.
Winston, I hope you don't get any trouble with Chinese authorities, because of the negative stuff you tell us in the videos, i mean your subscriptions go up so fast, you are spreading the news to more and more people you know...you are cool and i like to watch your videos so I don't want you to *disappear* ;-)
Good upload, was sorta curious why no bikes in the cities
All about image!!! :) You got it. Welcome to China.
Perception is reality! 🤔
Lots of motorcyclists don't obey the traffic rules and that's the only reason it's banned in big cities.
No, only reason is the robbery.
All those reasons are true....yet if you go to large cities like Saigon in Vietnam, you'll be glad this menace is banned in downtown bigger cities here : Its simply being swamped by tidal waves of bikes and scooters bearing down a road --- I've once had to wait 40 minutes just to be able to cross a road at a pedestrian crossing there (I didn't know you're just supposed to simply start walking straight across slowly and steadily, and they will swerve round you !)
Of course, it's good for everyone except the poor people that depend on the motorbikes for their livelihoods. It also means the cost of doing business goes up as moving things into and out of cities becomes more difficult.
It's a tempting instinct to do away with poverty by banning and outlawing the things that poor people do.
So what they should do is enforce road rules. As Serpentza said, they would not be better divers if they had cars. They just don't like seeing poor people.
Bestoink Dooley I've experienced that in Bangkok, Thailand. 24hour rush "hour" and just a sea... no make that a swamp of cars everywhere. Putting the masses into personal cars is a nightmare... need wider roads, several times more parking space. Build more roads, great more cars so need more roads soon after the new road open.
Reason #2 - Thefts FROM the bike. I have seen this happen dozens of times in China, and is seriously under-policed. Snatch-and-grabs are so common people wear bags in ways to prevent this, as opposed to just holding a bag in the hand.
Reason #3 - Thefts OF the bike - Since bikes are quite simple to steal as opposed to cars and provide quick cash since they are easy to sell, they are very often stolen. This is bad for economic purposes, as well as just bad for the people in China in general.
"how am i supposed to turn with this army of fucking e-bikes" Lmao ! that cracked me up , Winston hahaha :D
Nicely done video. Lots of good footage. I like the picture-in-picture when you were explaining.
4:00 Why do you have bikes registered in different cities?
i glad your objectivity has improved on your most recent videos
As I know, Shenzhen where you live in is divided into two parts. One of them the motor bike was banned, and another (where Buji belongs to that part) was allowed. And there are many people ride electric motor bike instead of it. Because it is unsafe to the traffic. There are many accidents caused by motor bike. In china the drivers manner are terrible bad.
I agree 100%! I also live here in Shenzhen Nanshan and traffic laws just don't exist. I drives me mad!!!!! I love the Chinese people but I feel sometimes they have tunnel vision. When a car/ bike is turning right onto a street, they never ever EVER look left at oncoming traffic. I see the shit bikes run into people and cars because no one wants to just stop their wheels from spinning. I don't know if it will every change.
I live in Xi'an. They're banned here too but I live right near the edge of the city. Just shy of what you refer to as the gray area. I used to ride in and around the city, no problems for over a year then last year I had my bike taken from me three times by police. Got it back the next day with a 100 kuai 'fine' and a 'naughty boy' speech. Now I keep my bike for the country side and my e-bike for the inner city.
Hello : I've made three trips to China in the past two years and I can say without question that there are many motorcycle and all the cities I was in.
Public transportation is very convenient and considerably cheap in most of Chinese cities. Private Car is a sign of better life but not so necessary as in US. Few years ago I was in Kular Lumpor of Malaysia, just 1 hour drive from its Capital's CBD, but public bus is coming every 3 hours. This would never happen in China. Most Chinese buses should arrive every 15 minutes.
Main reason from the government version probably has a lot to do with pollution.
A majority of two wheeled engine powered vehicles (motorcycles, and even in some cases scooters) put out more pollution that vehicles do. As a matter of fact a motorcycle of not much more than 600cc puts out more pollution that almost all sports cars, or any non-diesel truck/suv.
factory workers are very hard working people in China. They take things that Westerners would never ever accept. I would respect them more.
i love this video..please do more videos of you riding around with a front center camera view.
nice analogy mate, your good at making videos, I enjoy them, keep doing it, thanks.
ebikes have come to the states.
been riding them for ten years.
over volting gets you 20 to 30 mph for 20 miles.
your videos explain questions i'v had sbout qualty issues. and the constant fraud we had to look out for
endless-sphere. is a good forum for ebikes
LOL! Yep that reminds me of a tamer driving situation around the factory areas. I cannot see China having cars for every family or even worse every citizen. The volume of people there would cause a grid lock and pollution and no one can get anywhere. They really do need to have the motorbikes and bicycles stay as part of the norm.
They are registered in other (smaller) cities where they are still legal. He cannot register them in SZ proper as they are officially banned.
I spent 3mo in India and i have to agree with you on the infrastructure and traffic..
If you lived in Guangzhou several years ago when bike was not banned, you will fine the robbery a headache. The robbers are cunning and hard to be caught because they can hide themselves in a bunch of bikes or a small street in the city before and after the crime. Now they don't have this advantage. They can now only rely on there foot a small van which make them a much larger target. It is a hard to manage an army of unlicensed bikes but it is much easier to caught a car without license.
As with every other country?
It's the tourists job to learn about and adhere to the laws in the country he/she visits.
If you're a Dutch tourist visiting The UK, you can't just walk around smoking pot, it's still illegal in the UK regardless if you are a tourist or citizen, right?
Same applies for everything.
I think his opinions and observations are objective. We sure do not like outside criticism with political agenda, but he lives in China and he is objective about all the problems in China.
I think it is almost same like Malaysia, my home town. Maybe foreigners not use to it, but we have no problem dealing with it.
I live in Yiwu Zhejiang province and there are lots of foreigners here. I can say that the motocycles are really dangerous... People ride them on the sidewalk, they go between 2 cars and they don't stop in the redlight... They also ride them on the wrong side of the traffic. I don't drive in China because it scares and the motorbikes always appear from nowhere. But it does look poor too...
Yeah, just ban them! :-S
Ironic how in the west the push is toward integrated use of both bikes & motor vehicles!
The concept of dual use w/ allocated bike & motor vehicle (car) lanes as a sensible alternative apparently confuses those for whom banning one or the other is an 'answer'.
Its absurd that everyone be required to drive a car in tier 1 cities where they can barely accommodate the traffic they already have!
Mixed use would be a sensible alternative providing advantages for all.
I can ride or ride in whatever vehicle I want! Car, truck, scooter, bike, anything with wheels.. God bless the USA
acturally，the main reason is that it causes pollution as its engine is some kind of 2-stroke engine. it's a matter of the imperfect combustion of fuel.
I see your point, so get ride of the two strokes.
Smark in China I disagree... It is only about car lobbying. Buy a car for the "all car China". But this will change after the global crash.
bellevernon15012 nope, dont do that!
There should be dedicated lanes for the bikes
Your video is interesting, china banning motorcycles are they stupid, I always considered the Chinese to be very intelligent people, but you have highlighted a very stupid Chinese govt.
Cars cause a huge amount of pollution and traffic problems, motorcycles rather than ban them it would make more sense to enforce a cleaning program on all vehicles.
Also just a point, it is the factories and the people that work in them that makes china so much money, no workers no money they should embrace them.
people have talked about using pure oxygen in their apartments, but usually someone reminds them that this would blow the whole place up.
The noise of motorbikes in Italy and France is horrid horrid because the lads either take the muffler off, poke holes in it or take out the baffles and turn it into an amplifier like a trumpet. Ditto for Australia especially Harley D bikes which have click on mufflers which is secret code for click off.
bigjuliedive also in Italy you can ride one when you turn 14 years old.
Oh just a couple other things, most other countries are looking at ways to make better use of motorcycles to cut pollution to cut congestion, and to cut crime. Be they powered by electricity or some fossil fuel, they are by far the best way to protect the environment and keep our streets free to move around in.
Could you imagine what it would be like if all those motorcyclists took to the road in cars in those cities?
They want glitz they will have carbon dust hanging off every sign.
Do you know why? Also, maybe motorcycles produce more pollution per unit of fuel than heavier vehicles, but they use far less fuel than heavier vehicles, so the amount of pollution per passenger should be lower.
No Motorbikes!! Forget living in China. I lived in HCMC, Vietnam 2010-15 and loved riding my motorbike everywhere I went. No high cost, either, unless you wanted to ride a Big Superbike.
Yeah, you can say it is partly because of the new "image" desired by China. But the real reason is huge amount of people vs. limited traffic resources like roads. Starting from 10:30, the video by itself perfectly explains why motorbikes are banned. Just imagine replace all the bicycles and e-bikes with motorbikes in this little town, the traffic will become chaos, let alone in the downtown of Shenzhen or Beijing. Many problems in China are caused by people competing for social resources.
The bikes aren't the issue for those towns image, nearly as much as these other issues.
As for why I believe the bike laws exist, here are my thoughts:
Reason #1- Riding bikes is very unsafe in China. People don't look here when driving, they just go. People on bikes are less protected, therefore, they end up with more injuries than those in car accidents. You know living in China, that people are very unlikely to care about bikers, they will hit them.
I am trained to a higher level of driving than the normal UK public and actually I prefer driving in China I feel the traffic flows well and the roads are spacious but I am talking about the far NE and that may as well be a different planet to where you are. Bit miffed as my wife mentioned they were banning bikes in the city I`m moving to and I want to commute via motorbike passion and ease the same as you
What happens if you are simply passing through a city on a road trip? The bastards will confiscate your bike? Crazy stuff.
1:30 rural Guangdong? In China they have pretty large villages xd
Why not just enforce traffic laws?Ticket people for crusty old motorcycles and make them wash them.I had a cb 125 I washed it and polished it.
you should watch other video the uploader made, this guy really like China.
As a Chinese live in America, I found it is very interseting to hear what other people think about my homeland.
I would lose my mind with that kind of traffic chaos
Motorcycles reduce traffic congestion because they're so much smaller than larger vehicles.
You make some valid points however I live in nanjing and ride an r1200r just pay double the price and pay 80k for a license plate. Problem is it's exp3nsive and the license system is shocking I heard stories of people riding an electric scooter to pass a license test. Oh well stuff China I'm moving home to continue riding
I can understand the Chinese government outright banning bikes tbh, it seems commuting is a lot worse with them on the road.
Very insightful video. Spot on that it has to do with image/propaganda of trying to pony up to America's own superficial image. In America, riding public bus is associated with being poor. I hadn't made the connection that in Asia, riding motorbikes was poor. That's mind blowing. It's all relative. I suppose if you can already afford a car and then get a motorbike for recreation, then you can take it for granted. But if you never had the privilege of owning a car, then that's all you know.
The word "disorderly" comes to mind when I watch this video and that kind of thing drives bureaucrats crazy.
But motorcycles and scooters get better milage and create less pollution. Why lug a big car around if only one or 2 persons are going some place. It also relieves traffic congestion.
Oh wait, I see now. That looked like Vietnam.
holy shit that was chaos. Ive never seen so many bikes on the street like that before
What I saw was a lo of people who apparently had different destinations using small motorbikes as an inexpensive option to an automobile. which would cause more congestion because they are larger.
Everyone should have a moped ! At least one!
"chaos" is thousands of people moving so much more efficiently and effectively than if they were all in cars
That chaos is seen as incredible urban planning in northern Europe and what North American cities would love to have.
You can't have a city of shiny SUVs without gridlock.
i think the government shouldnt take all the responsibilities for the chaos on roads cuz mostly the e-bike riders are in age around 50 who've been less educated , they dont really know how dangerous it is when they break the rules, im chinese and i live in china and every time im driving and see a e-bike, i would stay as far as i can from them cuz you never know where they are gonna go next
You forgot to mention the e-bikes are almost silent they don’t use the lights at night because they want save the battery.
If they allowed bikes and just started enforcing normal traffic rules they could greatly improve traffic, and that would go a long way toward improving the city's image.
I agree with most of your opinions，I‘m living in ShaJing town too,Here is what I think:
摩托车的速度太快一旦失控容易死人，以前还常被用来当作抢劫的工具,在深圳这种人多车杂的城市确实太危险；电动车速度慢质量也较轻，相对来说对路人的威胁就小多了。
但如果不遵守交通规则，于人于己都还是挺危险的。我觉得政府不能一味的禁止，而是要去积极引导，也许重罚不守规则的人是个不错的选择。
You know more than native ....................................................I m living in a medium sized city near shanghai. now studying in US east coast. I currently own a ducati panigale. I can only have this riding fun in US. However, scooter was very expensive in 15 years ago.
Lol. It looks like the main traffic rule on chinese roads is "dont get hit." There is no order whatsoever.
Traffic here is horrid, 50 percent of the people on the road driving cars DONT KNOW how to drive a car.
They know how to drive...they just don't follow the rules!
+Sam Keyho
It's a controlled chaos. The Chinese are some of the best bad drivers out there.
they must make sure that the alternatives can serve all of these people before banning or there will be a big traffic issue. how all of those people will get transports ? does the buses or other alternative able to serve all these number of people ?
Agreed on all points and lets face it, motorcycles emit far less than most cars epsecially low CC ones
Wow Those suburbs in China is so industry That is very impressive
I also live in the city where banned the motorcycle where is Fuzhou,Fujian province. And those motorcycle taxi told me that those policemen are going to finish their work.and they came out as soon as those police finished their work every day.
As usual, a very informative video. Thanks, Winston.
And how is it when I as a tourist would come with my own motorcycle to ride there for the time of my visit?
Thanks for giving me more and more reasons not to want to go to China. I'll experience it vicariously through your vlogs, and my Dad's work-related travels. :)
If you go to Taiwan one day, I hope you can talk about the restrictions of Motorcycles in Taiwan.
In Taiwan, motorcycles which displacement under 250cc riding on expressway/highway was forbidden.
And riding all the motorcycles on highway was forbidden.
Moreover,when we want to left turn,to every foreigner's surprise,the government forced us to hook turn!
The fast lane are also forbidden to motorcycles which displacement under 250cc.
It's sad because that is the poor's only means of transportation and sometimes their only means to a livelihood. However at the same time, the traffic at intersections caused by those bikes is ridiculous! I understand why they want to outlaw them but I'm certain there are other answers such as enforcing motor bikes to follow the same laws as cars. Banning them for the sake of image is probably effecting a lot of people quite negatively :(
The interesting thing is that China wants a nice, clean image, but motorcycles produce less pollution than cars and are more fuel efficient.
As much as I love China, it has to be the worst place in the entire world when it comes to obeying traffic laws. I have been around the globe and I have never seen anything that comes close to China. I've never been to India, but I've seen videos where in the middle of big Indian roads, you have carts which are driven by Oxen and such things, but even an Indian Oxen-cart driver would cry after being shown a road in china. Absolutely ridiculous.
Have to keep adjusting volume when watching your videos