12:35 The cylinders are a test of the tolerance, meaning that .5 .4 .3mm of a gap is repeatable. But a .2mm gap is too tight and fuses between the 2 parts.
@@matsv201 For a modern FDM 3D printer, 0.3mm is honestly fairly disappointing. A very good number of machines can handle 0.2, and some better machines can do 0.1mm.
@@SplicesAndCelluloid Except that this is OoB experience with no tuning and running at 250mm/s with the included filament. I'd certainly like to see some additional testing, with better filament, varied temps and different speed to compare. (The overhangs showed that the filament was too hot or insufficiently cooled to print to that tight of a tolerance without fusing.)
Few suggestions for future 3D printer reviews.. Include information such as Printing size, max temp of hotend and bed, drive assembly type and other important stuff. I know this is not a 3D printer channel but for a 17 minute video, i would've liked to know more about the specs and maybe more 3D prints.
@@tonytiger2450 I think with 13 units, they should be able to send one or two to the 3D printing channels... After all, they have more authority in 3D printing than tech review channels that covers everything. I think they are afraid of them saying about the flaws of the printer. My friends on a 3D printing forum have expressed some criticism towards this machine. The screen on the gantry adds mass to moving parts, and with 1.5k mm/s^2 of max acceleration, you aren't going to get close to 250mm/s unless you are printing giant squares. Actual high-speed printers like the Voron 0 or Annex K3 often reach accelerations 10 times that when printing at 250mm/s, and up to 100k mm/s^2 if you push their limits. So I think it's pretty questionable that the AnkerMake is marketed as a high-speed printer. I'm not saying the AnkerMake is bad because it's more convenient and user-friendly compared to most other printers, and the sacrificed performance likely improves the reliability.
@@kerbodynamicx472 Because Ankermake is also targeting inexperienced people (non 3d printer users) with this product. This is how the product is hyped. They know that if they gave the product to honest 3d printing channels, there won't be any hype because it is just another 3d printer with few extra software features. Basically Anker is taking advantage of people's ignorance to hype their product through non 3dp channels.
Ender is also well known to the community and there is lots of support from others if you run into troubles. This being a new product for Anker means support will be less from the community until they release more at a better price then MSRP. Ease of use is nice but honestly when I jumped in last year on the popular ones that pop up for cheap on woot it took me less than a day to work out everything and get good results because people post solutions to anything your going to run into on the Enders
As somone who has worked with 3D Printers for years now, I'm VERY impressed. For a company that had no foot in additive manufacturing, to come in swinging this hard, they're about to make their name known!
@@PasteurizedLettuce We still can't call this printer reliable until more people get their hands on it and try it. I am not even sure about what makes this thing more reliable.
@@zakariakhamees the fact that it can finish such a complex print in 2 hours right out of the box without many tweaking. I only own a 200$ budget printer and there are sooo many things that could go wrong
Alex has got progressively more comfortable with hosting and he is now one of my favs - he explains stuff well too and doesn’t drop stuff all the time like some other hosts 😀
I love how Alex and LMG explains things a way that even people with not as much knowledge with tech have a slight understanding with these videos, so thank you so flipping for pushing these videos out every day no matter the situation or the day ❤
@@ShortCircuit please just make him stop using nonsene inch and feet units. Pleeease. He is a mechanical and CNC engineer, for the love of god you're doing everyone a favor including yourself by going with 10ths and 100s of mm.
That’s what i love about the ShortCircuit videos they just feel so natural and improvised. For example how they always wanna take it apart and it doesn’t matter if that’s even a good idea they just yolo it.
Yes, absolutely more "makery" type videos! Maker projects would be a great addition to the company's repertoire. Think of the near-limitless creative possibilities! Thanks for this video. Makes choosing an affordable 3D printer a lot easier.
honestly their lack of social media even though it is mentioned at the bottom of their Kickstarter is a little concerning.. Kickstarter says they are in WA but I found a Instagram that says UK is their location.. be careful this is starting to smell like a scam
I've been doing production 3d printing for a while now, and while the speed looks great but for doing a reasonable amount of printing the biggest problem looks top be the serviceability of the print head. It is inevitable that you'll have to clear a jam, change the nozzle, etc. for me at least that would be a complete deal breaker at any price.
yeah it is way too big for servicing. Also just looks like a bmg extruder ripoff and and creality style hotend. I would like to see more of the insides.
Thank you for letting Alex do this. Last time Linus did a vid on 3d printers it was sadly uninformed, but that's understandable - let each cover their strengths
This one isn't too useful either imo, but then LTT is hardly more than an unboxing channel. I hope that prospective buyers do their research elsewhere, 3D printing is a bliss.
@@adamboye89 3D printing can be very fun; and this video is an ad - not a review/first impression. Not a very useful or informative video, also be vary of Kickstarter campaigns.
This past May, I decided to purchase a 3D printer. I remembered watching this video and how good ya'll said it was that I went with this one. Not even a week later a realized that this video was two years old and Bambu Labs has entered the scene. So now I own an AnkerMake M5, a Bambu Lab X1C, AND and Bambu Lab P1S. And while the AnkerMake is good, the X1C and P1S blow it out of the water in terms of speed, quality, AND capability. Still think it was a good purchase and use it regularly. Thanks guys!
at msrp of 760$ it has very little to offer. This printer uses well known open source software features that can be implemented on pretty much any printer with an added computer. Basically, this is an ender3 with Klipper firmware and a 20$ webcam
760 is a bargain imo compared to the time required to set all of those features up + all the "polish" you get from a all in one solution like what they're offering. I don't know if there are others in the space who offer similar features for better prices, but I'm blown away by the quality and ease of printing demonstrated. It also prints incredibly fast. All in all I think you could get here with an ender but it would probably end up being fairly close in price and you would waste so much time troubleshooting and setting things up.
It's not even using input shaping, I don't think. They've got a glorified Spaghetti Detective for their "AI". It's just a reasonably well-built Cartesian but yeah, not offering anything new.
@@Blooest you're paying more for the thing to work than for pure value. ender 3s really like to stop working for no good reason, and this is honestly a much more idiot-proof design. Bed leveling is painfully slow, though, the cooling kinda sucks and i'm willing to bet the advertised 250mm/s is just the travels. probably doing walls and such at something like 80-100mm/s, since there's absolutely no way that their creality-style hotend can push material fast enough to keep up with 250mm/s.
Mmm.... I'm a little more generous? But not much. I don't think it's price competitive - my 3V2 printed about that well out of the box, too, and that's without auto-levelling. But I brought some knowledge with me that had to help, plus I did a couple of immediate upgrades (bed springs, bowden tube clamps, the basics) and that probably helped too, and while those things aren't expensive, they aren't free either. Plus it comes with an auto-leveller and is clearly a hell of a lot easier to put together. That's legitimate value. Not enough for the price, but meaningful. My main disappointment is that at $760 it should have a hell of a lot larger bed. When I saw the base I was ready to pay attention, but a print area that small? At $760? C'mon. That's bullshit.
The build construction looks pretty solid (Hard to tell with all the unneeded plastic in the way!), which would help with speed, but I'm most concerned with the closed slicer and the promises of advanced AI that is supposed to work from a fixed position. It'll be interesting to see how it turns out
Can we all just agree that almost everything Anker makes is great? I have had their powerbanks, cables, chargers, heck even their audio stuff under their sub-brand soundcore. All of it has been seriously good for the price. Edit: Forgot to include their security stuff from Eufy (Anker sub-brand), also great stuff
I love shopping and finding the best products at specific price points and no brand does this better than Anker. I've bound hundreds of their items at the office for my staff.
@@tylerdean3489 I have their soundcore life P3's, fantastic earbuds, got all the bells and whistles for literally a 1/3rd of the price of the big names
What I am realy hoping for is that the final version will also perform as well as this unit. What would also be nice is if they would have an encoder as a Filament Sensor. Not only would it detect if filament is running out, but also if the extruder is jammed. What would also be important to me is that you can easily tension the belts and do basic maintenance without tearing down the whole machine.
@@KJMcLaws That is exactly the normalization that is concerning. Just because something isn't a scam doesn't mean its origins in crowdfunding are acceptable, considering that Anker clearly has the funds to make the product while also incurring the risk of production. It has simply chosen to bypass said risks and pass them on to the consumer instead and it has been so normalized that no one sees it as a problem anymore.
@@MrWizardjr9 Their "goal" was setup at $50,000. Their company is worth at least $1,100,000,000 and they made over $4,000,000 on the Kickstarter alone. They are that big a company and yet, according to a comment from Short Circuit below, decided to use Kickstarter, rather than their own website, because they have chosen not to create their own e-commerce insfratructure. On the funding side of the issue, they can make any claims they want now about making the product regardless of the Kickstarter without backing up said claims. This is because they have now "proven" that their product will sell, even though in order to do so they passed on all the front-end costs of production to their customers.
The biggest question is if the acceleration also scales with the multiplier. I guess in reality the printhead won't even reach 100 mm/s cause it can't accelerate to this point.
If it's running Marlin with hardware acceleration curves, then no. If using software acceleration, which is an option in the popular slicers, then it will affect it. However 100mm/s is absolutely doable just after a corner. Mine is currently set to make travels moves at 120mm/s which slows rapidly to 80mm/s as it approaches the part until it slows again to the print speed. Even cheap NEMA knockoffs have got really good, good enough to rock the table the printer is on if you go too aggressive.
@@eideticex Will be interesting, how solid the motion System actually will be. And if something like pressure advance like in Klipper or at least linear advance will be in place so parts still look good.
In the time lapse you can see the printer is actually shaking (most likely the table or maybe the machine it's self) and I think that impacted the "spires" that were produced.
For the Mega roll, try flipping over the wire holder, so that the roller bar faces away from the aluminum columns that were getting in the way of the roll
Jolly good show guys @ShortCircuit Alex's presentation style and in depth knowledge on the subject of 3D printing makes the video informative and entertaining. Seems like something I'm likely to get into sooner or later. Keep up the awesome work guys 🙂
a nice pro of autoleveling is that the beds are often slightly warped or bend with often a sink in the middle. with autoleveling it can make up for that, without you get serious problems in some cases. my 3d printer for example couldn't print small circles close to the center, lines where fine, but circles became poop, to fix it it needs to be levelled differently but that way it wouldn't work for larger objects due to it hitting the heated bed on the edges if it was at least somewhat close enough to it in the center.
'Overclocking' a printer by increasing the voltage does work to some extent. Stepper motors have more torque and can run faster on higher voltage. Most other components in a 3d printer won't survive this though.
I own a prusa i3mk2, and have been 3d printing and designing my own parts for a long time now. I like Anker a lot, I have bought pretty much all the powerbanks and chargers i have from them and they are amazing. But... LTT doing a paid promotion here for the "next big thing" in 3d printers based on a kickstarter campaign, for an early prototype unit not showing the full feature set.... boy... you must have a huge trust in Anker to deliver on this fully and even exceed expectations... most of these kickstarter campaigns have proven to be just scams, or not delivering anything near to the quality of what they promoted. I sure want to understand better why you made this video and risk your reputation. I also respect taking the leap of faith here and hope it works out! Will keep an eye on this. I would hope that everyone watching waits for the final product launch and not jump on the hype train...
Overclocking 3D printers is totally a thing. It involves 48V steppers, there's high end mainboards for it all, and it also involves a lot of (sometimes unorthodox) temperature management. There's even benchmarks. Such as the speedboat. I'd totally challenge LTT team to tackle the speedboat challenge.
@@cotycollins6302 Same on the RatRig. I already have 2 dedicated PSU's in there (I am aware I could technically use 5V of the board). The Pi has its own mains > 5v brick. I am tempted however for a 48v tertiary system, just to learn. 3D printing to me is the same as PC overclocking: nice to get great results, but in the end you want it to be everyday useable as well. Those LDO mofo's can be a pain to acquire (not expensive, just a pain to get, esp in a mainly amazon-free country). And drivers are perhaps even harder, though 3DJake carries those as well now.
It scares me the amount of detail left out for a sponsored video…. What are the build dimensions? Max hotend and bed temps? Standard nozzle? How do you access the nozzle? Does it come with a brass nozzle or anti wear? That box the filament enters is just a run out sensor? This is direct drive? Is there USB access for a computer or OctoPi server? All I’m seeing is an Ender 3 S1 (Pro) with a locked down slicer and no 3rd party support for a lot more money….it does look pretty…
While I have a Neptune 2 and am pretty happy with it for the money I spent... This thing looks absolutely sick. My ONE FEATURE that will absolutely be a make or break for me in a future buy is auto bed leveling.
Grab a Prusa mini, then. Auto leveling, costs less than this one, more liability than a Kickstarter, and vendor support if something doesn't work. They're worth the hype. Oh, and gummy bears! Can't forget the gummy bears.
@@Fejszi would you mind explaining? I have it backed at the $499 price but bought the Ender 3 S1 pro on sale figuring that one would be better in the long term. What’s your reasoning?
@@areazaft1970 The Ender is the original design (even though it loosely copies a RepRap/Prusa Mendel) it uses Aluminium extrusions and V-rollers for movement, uses a bowden extruder. Since its open source, many companies just made clones, with little changes to the core design… As for your purchase; its a decent one, infinitely better than the piece of crap reviewed in the video, but its not as high quality as something like a Prusa…
I recently got an FLSUN SR Delta printer, and compared to the first printer I got in 2015, the difference is staggering. Set up was easy, Cura is a breath of fresh air, bed leveling is so fast and only needed to be done once, and it prints so fast and cleanly. Only issue I've had to tinker with here and there is bed adhesion of smaller parts.
I bought an Ender 3 Pro from microcenter for $100 recently. Added ABL sensor and I love how it prints. It's no where as fast, but it's so much cheaper. 3D printers are getting easier to use if you know what you are doing. This machine is probably best suited for a first timer or kid.
I was gonna get some of the $99 pros but decided to go $350 s1's. After abl, better motherboard, direct extruder and such it was easier to get it all out of the box.
Well overvolting your 3D Printer actually does work. My crappy Anet A8 runs on 14V instead of 12V for about 2 Years now. My Mainboard (20$) died ones but I think that was another issue. Of course the printer doesn´t print faster or something but it heats up way faster. And well it will probably die faster...
@@dubious6718 Prusa Research makes 3D printers that are excellent quality for the price. The same printer used in LTT video “3D Printing 300 Face Shields… PER DAY”
It looks much nicer and the build quality seems much better than a Prusa. The Prusa i3 Mk3 is a design that has been around for a long time, and through iterations and strong community support is relatively solid but IMO Prusa has gotten complacent and it’s not really as great a value proposition anymore. This Anker product looks really promising but time will tell how reliable it is.
@@eyeborg3148 Prusa are reliable af. It's the same with cars: BMW and Mercedes are nice, but if you want something that works you go to Toyota. We will see how Anker will make it.
@@eyeborg3148 Just based on this video I can say that the filament feed system and filament detection are considerably inferior to a Prusa MK3S. I also don't think your notion of complacency holds any water. You can buy a $50 kit from Prusa right now to turn a MK3 into a MK3S+. So not only is the design being refined, but you can take advantage of those refinements without buying a whole new machine. You don't buy a Prusa if you just want a "value" machine. You buy a cheap Ender 3D clone for that. You get a Prusa to avoid the headaches that going for "value" inevitably procures for you.
I have been printing nonstop, but only for a few months, with an Ender 3. 8 bit board. Loud. Alum extruder + better bowden, everything else still stock. I considered this, the Ender S1 Pro, Sidewinder Genius Pro, Mingda Magician X, for a follow on 2nd printer which will become my R&D box. All roughly comparable feature wise, with this one being the Cadillac since it will have video and wireless built in. However, of all the things I can do myself, the video and the wireless (via Octoprint) seemed the most like something I could figure out. So, I repurposed my almost too old Raspberry Pi (turns out it is very easy now) to check out how well it worked with my Ender 3. Given the Anker has a lot of unknowns (like, what will be the parts replacement options, what upgrade paths might exist, what slicers will work, overall longer term durability, where are the belt tensioners), that ruled out this machine for me. The Mingda's build quality from what I have seen is a little rough. The Sidewinder looks like a solid option, at a nice price point. I'd be hard pressed to find worthwhile flaws with it... however between the Sidewinder and S1/S1 Pro, I tipped to the Pro since I will have an all metal hotend, and can print just about anything, plus a PEI surface out of the gate. I got the S1 Pro during a sale, so it came in $300 cheaper than this one's list price. Also, Creality has a laser engraver that works on the S1, and hopefully also on the S1 Pro. Anyway, this looks like a great printer for someone who wants to have it just print, and not be a fuss about machine. There will be a steep learning curve still, but it'll be *less* steep to first successful print. Which, frankly, keeps a *lot* of people out of the hobby and/or from progressing. The anecdotes I've heard about abandonment of 3d printing suggest that this could fill a very nice niche among higher income, time strapped people.
$429 is no longer available, to save the rest of you some time. Current price as of 4/11/22 is $599. Damn, I was about to pull the trigger and YOLO this because I love Anker so much, even though I can barely justify a 3D printer! :) Thanks for the vid team!
they had that in the video, but not in the audio.. so if you weren't watching closely, you would have missed it. I'm debating and since this video went up, I might have to debate faster.
This is an extremely impressive result given the speed it is running on, 250mm/s is way faster than what I am comfortable running my printer on (with my modded i3 mega s from anycubic, I usually run it on 70mm/s), and the quality of the test print wows me as well, that is not an easy print to pull off, especially not on that speed
I guarantee you that is not 250mm/s. You can set the max speed to 3000mm/s. If your acceleration is not set appropriately, it could never go above 10mm/s (for example). If you want to see what 250mm/s looks like, go take a look at vez3d.
@@androiduberalles True, I wonder what the acceleration on this machine is set to too. I have actually subbed to vez3d for quite some time now, that speed he is able to achieve, with that quality (except the speed boat challenge of course lol) just amazes me.
Watching this because I found one of these cheap, hahaha I don't need another printer either😂 I have 3 fdms and a resin printer and two parts printers for that one😅
Could you guys make a video on ender 3 pro with bunch if upgrades done to it like direct extrusion, self leveling, motherboard, octopi etc. Would be a cool video and you could share some tip and tricks when it comes to using that printer.
I've had an Ender 3 for years have spent very little on upgrades glass bed, bowden tube, motor dampers, quieter fan, and aluminum extruder assembly maybe $50 total and a few 3D printed mods. Most were not even to upgrade print quality, but qol, to make it quieter, or just because I felt like it. The Ender 3 can print just as good as this overpriced printer out the box with no upgrades so not sure what your talking about needing $400 of extras for that's totally untrue.
Just a heads up, went to their page to back at 439. They have closed that pricing or stretch goal and now the new price is 639 and they are stating that is still discounted from what msrp will be. At 439 I agree it felt like a no brainer, but a 200 dollar hike for the kickstarter has me hesitating.
I think this is great for people who just want a printer to 'work' right from the get go. And while this is very nice, I worry about the aftermarket stuff when things break. The good thing about 3d printers is that it's made to be tinkered with and while not everyone wants to tinker and waste their time trying to problem solve what went wrong, to me it's a good learning experience and you can help others out too.
I dont know. My Ender 3 Pro has been working perfectly for a couple years now. The only issues i got with it was using cheap and old PLA. BUT I know the feeling of a 3D printer just REFUSING TO WORK like my first 3D Printer Tevo Tarantula.
still rockin' the Tevo Black Widow here, though it's one of those ship of Theseus situations where pretty much every part has been changed at some point other than the frame... lol
*editor, don't judge. Physical assembly of equipment like that is more about specific unit practice & experience than anyone not in a repair role has the experience to realise. Former Paslode repair tech in Australia- there are specific ways to hold, brace, clamp, apply force to each specific tool, depending on specific size, shape, weight, task & worker physiology. So everyone figures it out themselves in general - that foam assembly assistance was Unusual as general a rule outside of that experience, as well.
That base is very clearly die cast aluminum, and therefore isn't quite as expensive. It's finish machined obviously but they already have 1 setup to drill and tap so undoubtedly wasn't a big deal to mill some of the other features
What's the tip-off for it being die cast? I don't see any surfaces that aren't machined. Die casting is also prohibitively expensive for prototypes. Maybe sand casting?
Also, theres no chance in hell it would cost them over $100 in Aluminium +labour. Aluminium is one of the most recyclable materials and is about scrap $1 per kilo where im from (recycled Aluminium is used in most electronic devices) . All it requires is simply smelting. I am sure a company like Anker can get their cost to or under $50 per unit (just in making the face plate) Give me $100 and a couple hours and ill make you polished faceplate at my workshop.
If GCODE tells the tool-head to make two lines 40mm aprt, you gotta remember that those lines have a width. The error you were reading is the width of the line, mostly.
There is no way that is actually 250mm/s. Sure, you can set the max speed to 250 but if your acceleration isn't set high enough it'll never hit it. Take a look at hevort/vez3d/voron speed runs. That thing ain't doing 250mm/s.
Yeah, I've got a creality CR20 pro, and I've extensively upgraded and switched out parts to make as high quality of a build as I possibly can - and I still only get a fraction of that. And It's still a great printer featuring work I'm super proud of! At the same time though, I personally feel like reaching the fastest possible speeds isn't always necessary, since in that type of range you will absolutely be trading speed for quality - there are times when you need to test a part, and you don't care how it looks so long it's done quickly, and other times when the quality is by far the most important factor. In any case, that just shows how incredible those voron and rat-rig style printers are, and the sheer achievements of the people who build them. When you watch clips of those printers running, the footage is so insane, it just doesn't seem real.
I hate when TH-camrs and journalist promote the ultra limited early bird deal first then says the RRP. RRP is 759. Early bird is currently $629. Previous was 429 and 499, all gone.
The dimensions are all 0.4mm off because 0.4mm is the dimension of the print nozzle. The printer moves where the slicer tells it to, but 0.2mm of the nozzle is on either side of that location at any given time. This makes things like cylinders 0.4mm too big and things like holes 0.4mm too small. maybe a little oversimplified here, but this is basically what is occuring.
dang this looks cool - I feel like 3D printers are actually starting to become approachable consumer gadgets now? this is the first time I've seen one that looks genuinely super user friendly thought idk if this is the kind of printer I'd want if I wanted to print minis for TTRPGs
I'm not sure if FDM would be a good choice for minis. While resin printers have more headache to it, they still will give more details and quality on small things like minis. And I'm interested in seeing if there will be a nieche for 3d artists specifically comissioning print ready models, as 3d printing actually starts becoming more "approachable consumer thing" instead of a niche. Because some people forget that to print something, you must have the 3d model of it. (Yes, there are a lot of free stuff tho)
The advertised print speeds are a bit of a "well technically but not really" thing; with the acceleration the machine is capable of it will only hit those speeds for fractions of a second during long travel moves and during actual printing will be much lower. Look up videos of something like a VzBoT or Annex Engineering machine to see printers actually hitting 250mm/s during regular operation and compare to this. Significant difference. Now I'm not saying this is a bad printer, or even a slow one, as I believe it's a compelling and more modern alternative to a Prusa... it's just throwing out a bit of marketing BS.
I am slightly skeptical, This seems to be to good to be true. I would rater like to see a production version and see if that's up to par with all the cost cutting.
I backed in the first few hours, glad they sent out a few more units for review so i can get more informations that way. Thanks for the nice review Alex
According to their Kickstarter, the $429 is a special early price, and that reward is no longer available. The MSRP is $759. This is clearly not a machine for beginners, which is weird considering the features make it much easier to use
Guessing this video caused those options to sell out immediately. Big brain Anker, using a sponsored video while they're still filling Kickstarter orders...
This is absolutely a machine for beginners. Beginner doesn't mean "broke" you know. They're going for a "just turn it on and start printing" kind of deal I think trying to reach a community of people who would like to get into 3D printing but get scared away because every review I've ever watched of a 3D printer in those price range is "If you do X or Y and use Z mod it's a really good printer" whereas this is marketed as "Put it together, plug into the wall, use the app and start printing"
Beginner friendly is a different definition to cheap. Beginners will pay for ease of use and will prioritise options that "just work" over those with more features that require tinkering.
@@naunau311 But a high price tag is often a turn off for beginners. Lots of people want something cheap, but not as good, to try out, then upgrade in the future. This may not be high end, but it's priced like a mid range printer
I’m an old school Anker fan and I was super excited about this when I got an email about it a couple months ago. They are a great company that makes affordable tech that is solid and if you have a problem they make it more than right. I’ve had them give me free gear because of an issue. I’ve wanted my own 3D printer for years and finally decided to get one for my birthday and then this came out so I did! I got the early bird deal and even though I have to wait until later this year I’m patient. It seems way better than the Prusa Mini I was gonna get and the price wasn’t far off either in early bird. This will be an excellent first 3D printer and I believe this device will kickstart (heh) a 3D printer revolution in the consumer space over the coming decade.
It looks like a good machine i got nothing against it. But I think ill stick to my Vorons and RatRigs. CoreXY is the future these cartesian printers are so 2015.
Disappointed in the stepper motor noise. I went through the trouble of upgrading the motherboard on an ender 3 to get silent stepper motor drivers, huge difference.
The 5x faster isn’t that impressive when you look at the numbers cause you don’t know what it’s being compared to and from my experience those numbers actually fall in line with any regular printer.
Well, the "default" ender 3 speed is 50mm/s, so that's 5x ender 3 speed. I run my ender 3 up to 100mm/s, but wouldn't try 250 so it's impressive with a bed slinger
looking at it printing, it looks like it's still around the 'regular' 50-60mm/s. I doubt it could ever get up to a 250mm/s print speed since the printer also has to account for acceleration and jerk settings. The hot end is probably along the lines of a V6 style & bowden, so even if it could get to 250mm/s I doubt it could be fed properly. At the end of the day it's as idiot proof as any other 3d printer: works just fine until it doesn't and then it's tear it down and tinker time.
That filament runnout is not good IMO. If a filament ends, its inside of that box with no access to it. how would you take it out? Does the printer retract the filament already existing inside the tube and prompt you to insert more?
I’m curious if it also had the aluminum on the inside of yours, if they let you keep it or if you still have it, I’m a little curious to see if you got a more current model
Should be noted that unless the model has longer extrusion paths where it can accelerate up to max speed between curves/turns, it wont actually print 250mm/s. An easy way to demonstrate this is to print that sample model at 250mm/s and at 50mm/s. I am pretty sure the print time for the faster speed might be half the time, but it wont be 1/5 the time because the model is small and intricate.
At $430, that's a yes, but at $700+ that's a hard no from me dawg. At that price, i'd probably go for a large scale 4k or 8k resin printer. But my use cases would be very different than many other people's. I'd be more interested in making custom TTRPG minis and stuff like that.
Who is this video aimed at? For someone that's entirely new to FDM then it's okay, but as an intro to a new printer for those already experienced it's pretty weak in detail. It looks nice but at the ~$800 USD price point I can't see buying this over an i3. Also clipping the filament at the heatbreak was a very strange thing to do... There appears to be a filament run out sensor integrated into the extruder but cutting it there won't trip that sensor until the roll runs out and not someone has to pull that filament in there out because it's not going anywhere, seems like an unnecessary mess if the filament melts in the heatbreak (I have no idea if it has a PTFE tube of it's even an all metal hotend because Alex didn't say).
12:35 The cylinders are a test of the tolerance, meaning that .5 .4 .3mm of a gap is repeatable. But a .2mm gap is too tight and fuses between the 2 parts.
0.3mm is still fairly impressive
Wait, that test is pretty rigged ! I thought it was .4,.3,.2,.1 like any test !
@@tdg9281 How is it rigged if it's clearly labelled what's being tested? And what would the point be of testing 0.1mm when 0.2mm has already fused?
@@matsv201 For a modern FDM 3D printer, 0.3mm is honestly fairly disappointing. A very good number of machines can handle 0.2, and some better machines can do 0.1mm.
@@SplicesAndCelluloid Except that this is OoB experience with no tuning and running at 250mm/s with the included filament. I'd certainly like to see some additional testing, with better filament, varied temps and different speed to compare. (The overhangs showed that the filament was too hot or insufficiently cooled to print to that tight of a tolerance without fusing.)
Few suggestions for future 3D printer reviews.. Include information such as Printing size, max temp of hotend and bed, drive assembly type and other important stuff. I know this is not a 3D printer channel but for a 17 minute video, i would've liked to know more about the specs and maybe more 3D prints.
Reviews on LTT, I think u already knew
I wonder, why isn't any of the channels dedicated to 3D printing reviewing the Ankermake? Is it because this is just a heavily modified Ender 3?
@@kerbodynamicx472 I think because they said there are only 13 beta units. So maybe not enough to get to dedicated 3d printing channels?
@@tonytiger2450 I think with 13 units, they should be able to send one or two to the 3D printing channels... After all, they have more authority in 3D printing than tech review channels that covers everything. I think they are afraid of them saying about the flaws of the printer.
My friends on a 3D printing forum have expressed some criticism towards this machine. The screen on the gantry adds mass to moving parts, and with 1.5k mm/s^2 of max acceleration, you aren't going to get close to 250mm/s unless you are printing giant squares. Actual high-speed printers like the Voron 0 or Annex K3 often reach accelerations 10 times that when printing at 250mm/s, and up to 100k mm/s^2 if you push their limits. So I think it's pretty questionable that the AnkerMake is marketed as a high-speed printer. I'm not saying the AnkerMake is bad because it's more convenient and user-friendly compared to most other printers, and the sacrificed performance likely improves the reliability.
@@kerbodynamicx472 Because Ankermake is also targeting inexperienced people (non 3d printer users) with this product. This is how the product is hyped. They know that if they gave the product to honest 3d printing channels, there won't be any hype because it is just another 3d printer with few extra software features. Basically Anker is taking advantage of people's ignorance to hype their product through non 3dp channels.
I haven't messed with any 3D printers in about 7 years...
Seeing one that actually works (that a regular person can afford) is very nice.
Creality makes amazing printers for half the price if you’re willing to forgo “smart” features you can add in for a couple bucks.
@@porcupinebutter I second this too.
Ender is also well known to the community and there is lots of support from others if you run into troubles. This being a new product for Anker means support will be less from the community until they release more at a better price then MSRP.
Ease of use is nice but honestly when I jumped in last year on the popular ones that pop up for cheap on woot it took me less than a day to work out everything and get good results because people post solutions to anything your going to run into on the Enders
Prusa Printers are also very reliable.
@@porcupinebutter do you just have to find a slicer software and upload the files to an SD card? I am a complete noob with 3d printers.
As somone who has worked with 3D Printers for years now, I'm VERY impressed. For a company that had no foot in additive manufacturing, to come in swinging this hard, they're about to make their name known!
Nothing wrong with shaking things up a bit ;)
What is so impressive about this printer?
@@zakariakhamees it’s really more about how unimpressive a lot of established 3D printers are in terms of reliability
@@PasteurizedLettuce We still can't call this printer reliable until more people get their hands on it and try it. I am not even sure about what makes this thing more reliable.
@@zakariakhamees the fact that it can finish such a complex print in 2 hours right out of the box without many tweaking. I only own a 200$ budget printer and there are sooo many things that could go wrong
Alex has got progressively more comfortable with hosting and he is now one of my favs - he explains stuff well too and doesn’t drop stuff all the time like some other hosts 😀
He was German in a past life during WWII. I don't mean that in a bad way.
He's definitely my favorite host to watch. I look forward to every video he is in!
I love how Alex and LMG explains things a way that even people with not as much knowledge with tech have a slight understanding with these videos, so thank you so flipping for pushing these videos out every day no matter the situation or the day ❤
Thanks! Make sure you @ him with the kind words on Twitter.
@@ShortCircuit will do :)
They could do a better job of it in some videos, though
@@ShortCircuit please just make him stop using nonsene inch and feet units. Pleeease. He is a mechanical and CNC engineer, for the love of god you're doing everyone a favor including yourself by going with 10ths and 100s of mm.
@@RandomUser2401 Americans did this, it’s their fault
ShortCircuit has become my favorite LMG channel. Each time you show something new. A car, shoes, watches, printers, pro cameras etc. Keep it up guys.
Glad you like them!
I’m also pretty impressed on the build quality for its price! Looking forward to review one 🤘😎
Since this is preproduction I highly doubt it will be this nice but I'm looking forward to seeing how they come out.
It's almost false endorsement to talk for many minutes on a feature that won't be implemented on the final product.
@@bulljona11 considering they spent several minutes talking about how this is unlikely to be on the production model, it's not false endorsement.
its kickstarter i would wait for final production unit reviews
Nah, retail is $750, not impressed for an ender 3 clone
Put a preorder in for this the first day it was announced. Very excited about it and happy you guys are making a video on this one.
I love anker devices and their customer service. Just sent me a new USB cable that had a lifetime warranty because my cable from years ago broke
That "out of the box print" makes me want this far too much than I should. :P
"I know people that kept the warranty on their things... They're all dead now" might be the best one-liner LTT quote ever :)
Delivered almost deadpan, as well.
That’s what i love about the ShortCircuit videos they just feel so natural and improvised. For example how they always wanna take it apart and it doesn’t matter if that’s even a good idea they just yolo it.
Yes, absolutely more "makery" type videos! Maker projects would be a great addition to the company's repertoire. Think of the near-limitless creative possibilities! Thanks for this video. Makes choosing an affordable 3D printer a lot easier.
honestly their lack of social media even though it is mentioned at the bottom of their Kickstarter is a little concerning.. Kickstarter says they are in WA but I found a Instagram that says UK is their location.. be careful this is starting to smell like a scam
I've been doing production 3d printing for a while now, and while the speed looks great but for doing a reasonable amount of printing the biggest problem looks top be the serviceability of the print head. It is inevitable that you'll have to clear a jam, change the nozzle, etc. for me at least that would be a complete deal breaker at any price.
Also enclosing it
Prusa printers showed me the light tbh. It will be difficult to switch to anything else FDM-wise.
I've been 3D printing for 10 years and have only ever had to clean a jam once. What are you putting in there?!
That is just a plastic cap which can be removed easily. Also, there will be all the necessarry spare parts available for aftersales :)
yeah it is way too big for servicing. Also just looks like a bmg extruder ripoff and and creality style hotend. I would like to see more of the insides.
Thank you for letting Alex do this. Last time Linus did a vid on 3d printers it was sadly uninformed, but that's understandable - let each cover their strengths
True. I was a little disappointed in his unfamiliarity with the torture test though.
What video was it?
Was it during the pandemic-making face shield stuff?
This one isn't too useful either imo, but then LTT is hardly more than an unboxing channel. I hope that prospective buyers do their research elsewhere, 3D printing is a bliss.
@@TheCyberSpidey what?
@@adamboye89 3D printing can be very fun; and this video is an ad - not a review/first impression. Not a very useful or informative video, also be vary of Kickstarter campaigns.
This past May, I decided to purchase a 3D printer. I remembered watching this video and how good ya'll said it was that I went with this one. Not even a week later a realized that this video was two years old and Bambu Labs has entered the scene. So now I own an AnkerMake M5, a Bambu Lab X1C, AND and Bambu Lab P1S. And while the AnkerMake is good, the X1C and P1S blow it out of the water in terms of speed, quality, AND capability. Still think it was a good purchase and use it regularly. Thanks guys!
at msrp of 760$ it has very little to offer. This printer uses well known open source software features that can be implemented on pretty much any printer with an added computer. Basically, this is an ender3 with Klipper firmware and a 20$ webcam
760 is a bargain imo compared to the time required to set all of those features up + all the "polish" you get from a all in one solution like what they're offering. I don't know if there are others in the space who offer similar features for better prices, but I'm blown away by the quality and ease of printing demonstrated. It also prints incredibly fast. All in all I think you could get here with an ender but it would probably end up being fairly close in price and you would waste so much time troubleshooting and setting things up.
What the advantage of using Klipper on a ender 3 ?
It's not even using input shaping, I don't think. They've got a glorified Spaghetti Detective for their "AI". It's just a reasonably well-built Cartesian but yeah, not offering anything new.
@@Blooest you're paying more for the thing to work than for pure value. ender 3s really like to stop working for no good reason, and this is honestly a much more idiot-proof design. Bed leveling is painfully slow, though, the cooling kinda sucks and i'm willing to bet the advertised 250mm/s is just the travels. probably doing walls and such at something like 80-100mm/s, since there's absolutely no way that their creality-style hotend can push material fast enough to keep up with 250mm/s.
Mmm.... I'm a little more generous? But not much. I don't think it's price competitive - my 3V2 printed about that well out of the box, too, and that's without auto-levelling.
But I brought some knowledge with me that had to help, plus I did a couple of immediate upgrades (bed springs, bowden tube clamps, the basics) and that probably helped too, and while those things aren't expensive, they aren't free either.
Plus it comes with an auto-leveller and is clearly a hell of a lot easier to put together. That's legitimate value. Not enough for the price, but meaningful.
My main disappointment is that at $760 it should have a hell of a lot larger bed. When I saw the base I was ready to pay attention, but a print area that small? At $760? C'mon. That's bullshit.
The build construction looks pretty solid (Hard to tell with all the unneeded plastic in the way!), which would help with speed, but I'm most concerned with the closed slicer and the promises of advanced AI that is supposed to work from a fixed position. It'll be interesting to see how it turns out
I love content like this, I'd enjoy more maker style things being covered.
the editor is probably new, young and just finished the probation period and i absolutely LOVE how he/she edited this.
thank you! :)
Between this and today's LTT video, the editors have been pretty sassy and I love it 😂😂
The editing on this video is just hilarious, all these little comments andthe editor's name in the outro 😂😂
Can we all just agree that almost everything Anker makes is great?
I have had their powerbanks, cables, chargers, heck even their audio stuff under their sub-brand soundcore. All of it has been seriously good for the price.
Edit: Forgot to include their security stuff from Eufy (Anker sub-brand), also great stuff
Absolutely agree! Their security cameras are great too!
I love shopping and finding the best products at specific price points and no brand does this better than Anker. I've bound hundreds of their items at the office for my staff.
@@NightOwlPal I have their Eufy cameras as well, completely forgot to mention them, also a great product
Im watching this while using the Anker Soundcore wireless headphones. They were 60 bucks and sound really good.
@@tylerdean3489 I have their soundcore life P3's, fantastic earbuds, got all the bells and whistles for literally a 1/3rd of the price of the big names
What I am realy hoping for is that the final version will also perform as well as this unit. What would also be nice is if they would have an encoder as a Filament Sensor. Not only would it detect if filament is running out, but also if the extruder is jammed.
What would also be important to me is that you can easily tension the belts and do basic maintenance without tearing down the whole machine.
It's concerning that major companies using Kickstarter to fund their products has been normalized.
But they aren't scams at least
@@KJMcLaws That is exactly the normalization that is concerning. Just because something isn't a scam doesn't mean its origins in crowdfunding are acceptable, considering that Anker clearly has the funds to make the product while also incurring the risk of production. It has simply chosen to bypass said risks and pass them on to the consumer instead and it has been so normalized that no one sees it as a problem anymore.
they said they are making it whether or not it hits the goal. its just for advertising
@@MrWizardjr9 Their "goal" was setup at $50,000. Their company is worth at least $1,100,000,000 and they made over $4,000,000 on the Kickstarter alone. They are that big a company and yet, according to a comment from Short Circuit below, decided to use Kickstarter, rather than their own website, because they have chosen not to create their own e-commerce insfratructure.
On the funding side of the issue, they can make any claims they want now about making the product regardless of the Kickstarter without backing up said claims. This is because they have now "proven" that their product will sell, even though in order to do so they passed on all the front-end costs of production to their customers.
I would do the same thing in their position. It makes sense to gauge the demand for a product before you start to produce it.
Alex is definitely my favorite member of the LTT crew. He’s super like-able and funny. Not to mention smart.
The biggest question is if the acceleration also scales with the multiplier. I guess in reality the printhead won't even reach 100 mm/s cause it can't accelerate to this point.
you'd be surprised how short of a line it takes to get to full speed at a modest setting of say jerk set to 10.
If it's running Marlin with hardware acceleration curves, then no. If using software acceleration, which is an option in the popular slicers, then it will affect it. However 100mm/s is absolutely doable just after a corner. Mine is currently set to make travels moves at 120mm/s which slows rapidly to 80mm/s as it approaches the part until it slows again to the print speed. Even cheap NEMA knockoffs have got really good, good enough to rock the table the printer is on if you go too aggressive.
@@eideticex Will be interesting, how solid the motion System actually will be.
And if something like pressure advance like in Klipper or at least linear advance will be in place so parts still look good.
In the time lapse you can see the printer is actually shaking (most likely the table or maybe the machine it's self) and I think that impacted the "spires" that were produced.
This editor is amazing and I love them.
YES!!!!!!
For the Mega roll, try flipping over the wire holder, so that the roller bar faces away from the aluminum columns that were getting in the way of the roll
It's great that Anker is getting into 3D Printers. I'd love to see y'all review the Prusa Mini.
I auto level every print as well. adds a little more time to each print but it's worth it to make sure i get perfect first layer everytime.
Jolly good show guys @ShortCircuit Alex's presentation style and in depth knowledge on the subject of 3D printing makes the video informative and entertaining. Seems like something I'm likely to get into sooner or later. Keep up the awesome work guys 🙂
Glad you enjoyed it!
a nice pro of autoleveling is that the beds are often slightly warped or bend with often a sink in the middle. with autoleveling it can make up for that, without you get serious problems in some cases. my 3d printer for example couldn't print small circles close to the center, lines where fine, but circles became poop, to fix it it needs to be levelled differently but that way it wouldn't work for larger objects due to it hitting the heated bed on the edges if it was at least somewhat close enough to it in the center.
You can raise the output voltage and overclock it!
'Overclocking' a printer by increasing the voltage does work to some extent. Stepper motors have more torque and can run faster on higher voltage. Most other components in a 3d printer won't survive this though.
Yes! More makery type content, help us promote maker thingies and push the world forward a bit - cool things happen in the maker space. Thank you!
I own a prusa i3mk2, and have been 3d printing and designing my own parts for a long time now. I like Anker a lot, I have bought pretty much all the powerbanks and chargers i have from them and they are amazing. But... LTT doing a paid promotion here for the "next big thing" in 3d printers based on a kickstarter campaign, for an early prototype unit not showing the full feature set.... boy... you must have a huge trust in Anker to deliver on this fully and even exceed expectations... most of these kickstarter campaigns have proven to be just scams, or not delivering anything near to the quality of what they promoted. I sure want to understand better why you made this video and risk your reputation. I also respect taking the leap of faith here and hope it works out! Will keep an eye on this. I would hope that everyone watching waits for the final product launch and not jump on the hype train...
Good points.
Overclocking 3D printers is totally a thing. It involves 48V steppers, there's high end mainboards for it all, and it also involves a lot of (sometimes unorthodox) temperature management. There's even benchmarks. Such as the speedboat. I'd totally challenge LTT team to tackle the speedboat challenge.
Yup, I still remember my jaw hitting the floor when I saw a sub 2 minute Benchy on an overclocked Voron Zero.
Agreed, the mainboard on my voron supports 48v to the x and y steppers. But i would need a 48v psu for it, so i just run 24v to everything.
@@cotycollins6302 Same on the RatRig. I already have 2 dedicated PSU's in there (I am aware I could technically use 5V of the board). The Pi has its own mains > 5v brick. I am tempted however for a 48v tertiary system, just to learn. 3D printing to me is the same as PC overclocking: nice to get great results, but in the end you want it to be everyday useable as well. Those LDO mofo's can be a pain to acquire (not expensive, just a pain to get, esp in a mainly amazon-free country). And drivers are perhaps even harder, though 3DJake carries those as well now.
It scares me the amount of detail left out for a sponsored video….
What are the build dimensions? Max hotend and bed temps? Standard nozzle? How do you access the nozzle? Does it come with a brass nozzle or anti wear? That box the filament enters is just a run out sensor? This is direct drive? Is there USB access for a computer or OctoPi server?
All I’m seeing is an Ender 3 S1 (Pro) with a locked down slicer and no 3rd party support for a lot more money….it does look pretty…
While I have a Neptune 2 and am pretty happy with it for the money I spent... This thing looks absolutely sick. My ONE FEATURE that will absolutely be a make or break for me in a future buy is auto bed leveling.
Grab a Prusa mini, then. Auto leveling, costs less than this one, more liability than a Kickstarter, and vendor support if something doesn't work. They're worth the hype. Oh, and gummy bears! Can't forget the gummy bears.
So they send you a golden prototype too promote, grabs popcorn because this gonna be a wild ride.
Is this the 3-D printer that Alex was excited about during the recent sleeper build video? Either way, this looks awesome.
I think he was excited about the 8,000$ one he mentioned, but not the one featured
That one was the Phanteon
No it doesn’t look awsome, this is a low effort Ender 3 clone
@@Fejszi would you mind explaining? I have it backed at the $499 price but bought the Ender 3 S1 pro on sale figuring that one would be better in the long term. What’s your reasoning?
@@areazaft1970 The Ender is the original design (even though it loosely copies a RepRap/Prusa Mendel) it uses Aluminium extrusions and V-rollers for movement, uses a bowden extruder. Since its open source, many companies just made clones, with little changes to the core design… As for your purchase; its a decent one, infinitely better than the piece of crap reviewed in the video, but its not as high quality as something like a Prusa…
I recently got an FLSUN SR Delta printer, and compared to the first printer I got in 2015, the difference is staggering. Set up was easy, Cura is a breath of fresh air, bed leveling is so fast and only needed to be done once, and it prints so fast and cleanly. Only issue I've had to tinker with here and there is bed adhesion of smaller parts.
I bought an Ender 3 Pro from microcenter for $100 recently. Added ABL sensor and I love how it prints. It's no where as fast, but it's so much cheaper. 3D printers are getting easier to use if you know what you are doing. This machine is probably best suited for a first timer or kid.
I was gonna get some of the $99 pros but decided to go $350 s1's. After abl, better motherboard, direct extruder and such it was easier to get it all out of the box.
actually, your ender3 is just as fast, it just doesn't have as much decoration on it.
Well overvolting your 3D Printer actually does work. My crappy Anet A8 runs on 14V instead of 12V for about 2 Years now. My Mainboard (20$) died ones but I think that was another issue.
Of course the printer doesn´t print faster or something but it heats up way faster. And well it will probably die faster...
Based on their price, it looks like they are trying to compete with Prusa.
I wish Anker luck in getting the same reliability as Prusa
Prusa who?
Most people have heard about Anker.
@@dubious6718 Prusa Research makes 3D printers that are excellent quality for the price. The same printer used in LTT video “3D Printing 300 Face Shields… PER DAY”
It looks much nicer and the build quality seems much better than a Prusa. The Prusa i3 Mk3 is a design that has been around for a long time, and through iterations and strong community support is relatively solid but IMO Prusa has gotten complacent and it’s not really as great a value proposition anymore. This Anker product looks really promising but time will tell how reliable it is.
@@eyeborg3148 Prusa are reliable af.
It's the same with cars: BMW and Mercedes are nice, but if you want something that works you go to Toyota.
We will see how Anker will make it.
@@eyeborg3148 Just based on this video I can say that the filament feed system and filament detection are considerably inferior to a Prusa MK3S.
I also don't think your notion of complacency holds any water. You can buy a $50 kit from Prusa right now to turn a MK3 into a MK3S+. So not only is the design being refined, but you can take advantage of those refinements without buying a whole new machine.
You don't buy a Prusa if you just want a "value" machine. You buy a cheap Ender 3D clone for that. You get a Prusa to avoid the headaches that going for "value" inevitably procures for you.
I have been printing nonstop, but only for a few months, with an Ender 3. 8 bit board. Loud. Alum extruder + better bowden, everything else still stock. I considered this, the Ender S1 Pro, Sidewinder Genius Pro, Mingda Magician X, for a follow on 2nd printer which will become my R&D box. All roughly comparable feature wise, with this one being the Cadillac since it will have video and wireless built in. However, of all the things I can do myself, the video and the wireless (via Octoprint) seemed the most like something I could figure out. So, I repurposed my almost too old Raspberry Pi (turns out it is very easy now) to check out how well it worked with my Ender 3. Given the Anker has a lot of unknowns (like, what will be the parts replacement options, what upgrade paths might exist, what slicers will work, overall longer term durability, where are the belt tensioners), that ruled out this machine for me. The Mingda's build quality from what I have seen is a little rough. The Sidewinder looks like a solid option, at a nice price point. I'd be hard pressed to find worthwhile flaws with it... however between the Sidewinder and S1/S1 Pro, I tipped to the Pro since I will have an all metal hotend, and can print just about anything, plus a PEI surface out of the gate. I got the S1 Pro during a sale, so it came in $300 cheaper than this one's list price. Also, Creality has a laser engraver that works on the S1, and hopefully also on the S1 Pro. Anyway, this looks like a great printer for someone who wants to have it just print, and not be a fuss about machine. There will be a steep learning curve still, but it'll be *less* steep to first successful print. Which, frankly, keeps a *lot* of people out of the hobby and/or from progressing. The anecdotes I've heard about abandonment of 3d printing suggest that this could fill a very nice niche among higher income, time strapped people.
I love Anker. It's like a company full of people that look at outrageously priced tech and go "nahhhhhh we can do that better"
Except power bricks and batteries... They're like "nahhhhhh we can do that pricier"
@@beau2418 my experiance cheaping out on power is a bad idea so I usually go with anker for peace of mind
Retail price is $750, more than double an ender 3
@@TheMidnightSmith yeah but it has way more features. However it isn't open source.
@@G0rg81 nope, and at that price, you're in prusa competition tier.
The little build tray thingy built into the packaging is GENIUS.
$429 is no longer available, to save the rest of you some time. Current price as of 4/11/22 is $599. Damn, I was about to pull the trigger and YOLO this because I love Anker so much, even though I can barely justify a 3D printer! :) Thanks for the vid team!
they had that in the video, but not in the audio.. so if you weren't watching closely, you would have missed it. I'm debating and since this video went up, I might have to debate faster.
"Supposed to put it together but sometimes things just go the wrong way"🤣The curiosity killed the cat!
3:30 this is why you shouldn’t say something unless you’re sure. You end up being wrong and sometimes you have no opportunity to make a correction.
Unless you watch the entire video and paying attention for the confirmed information LOL
Alex has the best job at LMG. Between the car reviews, the 3d printing, and machining... I really wish I could have that role
I'd love to see a budget 3D printing video - taking a budget printer, then upgrading parts until it rivals a much more expensive printer.
an Ender 3 rivals way higher priced printer out the box and is only $200
Crazy how far it's all come, I just backed the project, can't wait
This is an extremely impressive result given the speed it is running on, 250mm/s is way faster than what I am comfortable running my printer on (with my modded i3 mega s from anycubic, I usually run it on 70mm/s), and the quality of the test print wows me as well, that is not an easy print to pull off, especially not on that speed
I guarantee you that is not 250mm/s. You can set the max speed to 3000mm/s. If your acceleration is not set appropriately, it could never go above 10mm/s (for example). If you want to see what 250mm/s looks like, go take a look at vez3d.
@@androiduberalles True, I wonder what the acceleration on this machine is set to too. I have actually subbed to vez3d for quite some time now, that speed he is able to achieve, with that quality (except the speed boat challenge of course lol) just amazes me.
Would love the stl for their test print!
I don't need another printer... I don't need another printer... I DONT NEED ANOTHER PRINTER!!!
Watching this because I found one of these cheap, hahaha I don't need another printer either😂 I have 3 fdms and a resin printer and two parts printers for that one😅
Could you guys make a video on ender 3 pro with bunch if upgrades done to it like direct extrusion, self leveling, motherboard, octopi etc. Would be a cool video and you could share some tip and tricks when it comes to using that printer.
Sitting here looking at my 2017 ender 3. This thing is doing what took my printer 400 dollars in mods to do, but it does it out of the box.
I've had an Ender 3 for years have spent very little on upgrades glass bed, bowden tube, motor dampers, quieter fan, and aluminum extruder assembly maybe $50 total and a few 3D printed mods. Most were not even to upgrade print quality, but qol, to make it quieter, or just because I felt like it. The Ender 3 can print just as good as this overpriced printer out the box with no upgrades so not sure what your talking about needing $400 of extras for that's totally untrue.
Just a heads up, went to their page to back at 439. They have closed that pricing or stretch goal and now the new price is 639 and they are stating that is still discounted from what msrp will be.
At 439 I agree it felt like a no brainer, but a 200 dollar hike for the kickstarter has me hesitating.
Might as well wait for the reviews of the production units and shop around for the best price if they turn out to be any good.
I think this is great for people who just want a printer to 'work' right from the get go. And while this is very nice, I worry about the aftermarket stuff when things break. The good thing about 3d printers is that it's made to be tinkered with and while not everyone wants to tinker and waste their time trying to problem solve what went wrong, to me it's a good learning experience and you can help others out too.
Great point!
The cylinders are tolerance tests, means if its any closer than .3mm it will stick to itself so thats how tight you can make your tolerances.
I dont know. My Ender 3 Pro has been working perfectly for a couple years now. The only issues i got with it was using cheap and old PLA.
BUT I know the feeling of a 3D printer just REFUSING TO WORK like my first 3D Printer Tevo Tarantula.
That was my first one as well, god how far we have come lol
still rockin' the Tevo Black Widow here, though it's one of those ship of Theseus situations where pretty much every part has been changed at some point other than the frame... lol
*editor, don't judge.
Physical assembly of equipment like that is more about specific unit practice & experience than anyone not in a repair role has the experience to realise.
Former Paslode repair tech in Australia- there are specific ways to hold, brace, clamp, apply force to each specific tool, depending on specific size, shape, weight, task & worker physiology. So everyone figures it out themselves in general - that foam assembly assistance was Unusual as general a rule outside of that experience, as well.
That base is very clearly die cast aluminum, and therefore isn't quite as expensive. It's finish machined obviously but they already have 1 setup to drill and tap so undoubtedly wasn't a big deal to mill some of the other features
What's the tip-off for it being die cast? I don't see any surfaces that aren't machined. Die casting is also prohibitively expensive for prototypes. Maybe sand casting?
Also, theres no chance in hell it would cost them over $100 in Aluminium +labour. Aluminium is one of the most recyclable materials and is about scrap $1 per kilo where im from (recycled Aluminium is used in most electronic devices) . All it requires is simply smelting.
I am sure a company like Anker can get their cost to or under $50 per unit (just in making the face plate)
Give me $100 and a couple hours and ill make you polished faceplate at my workshop.
If GCODE tells the tool-head to make two lines 40mm aprt, you gotta remember that those lines have a width.
The error you were reading is the width of the line, mostly.
There is no way that is actually 250mm/s. Sure, you can set the max speed to 250 but if your acceleration isn't set high enough it'll never hit it. Take a look at hevort/vez3d/voron speed runs. That thing ain't doing 250mm/s.
Yeah, I've got a creality CR20 pro, and I've extensively upgraded and switched out parts to make as high quality of a build as I possibly can - and I still only get a fraction of that. And It's still a great printer featuring work I'm super proud of! At the same time though, I personally feel like reaching the fastest possible speeds isn't always necessary, since in that type of range you will absolutely be trading speed for quality - there are times when you need to test a part, and you don't care how it looks so long it's done quickly, and other times when the quality is by far the most important factor.
In any case, that just shows how incredible those voron and rat-rig style printers are, and the sheer achievements of the people who build them. When you watch clips of those printers running, the footage is so insane, it just doesn't seem real.
I hate when TH-camrs and journalist promote the ultra limited early bird deal first then says the RRP. RRP is 759. Early bird is currently $629. Previous was 429 and 499, all gone.
I love Anker products, they always work great and are offered at super reasonable prices
the "ruler" on the side is to check for ringing issues due to the head mass and axis PID tune, not for dimensions
very excited to see the 6th generation aircrafts utilizing 3d printing tech for unmanned hyper-sonic flight maneuvering
2:18 That satisfying *Click* made me want that screwdriver.
Looks awesome, wish I could have gotten in on the kickstarter
Still can, it's just 599 instead of 429 or 499,
Still like 200 bucks off the msrp
The dimensions are all 0.4mm off because 0.4mm is the dimension of the print nozzle. The printer moves where the slicer tells it to, but 0.2mm of the nozzle is on either side of that location at any given time. This makes things like cylinders 0.4mm too big and things like holes 0.4mm too small.
maybe a little oversimplified here, but this is basically what is occuring.
dang this looks cool - I feel like 3D printers are actually starting to become approachable consumer gadgets now? this is the first time I've seen one that looks genuinely super user friendly
thought idk if this is the kind of printer I'd want if I wanted to print minis for TTRPGs
I'm not sure if FDM would be a good choice for minis.
While resin printers have more headache to it, they still will give more details and quality on small things like minis.
And I'm interested in seeing if there will be a nieche for 3d artists specifically comissioning print ready models, as 3d printing actually starts becoming more "approachable consumer thing" instead of a niche. Because some people forget that to print something, you must have the 3d model of it. (Yes, there are a lot of free stuff tho)
loving the editor's comments. keep them flowing.
The advertised print speeds are a bit of a "well technically but not really" thing; with the acceleration the machine is capable of it will only hit those speeds for fractions of a second during long travel moves and during actual printing will be much lower. Look up videos of something like a VzBoT or Annex Engineering machine to see printers actually hitting 250mm/s during regular operation and compare to this. Significant difference.
Now I'm not saying this is a bad printer, or even a slow one, as I believe it's a compelling and more modern alternative to a Prusa... it's just throwing out a bit of marketing BS.
That thing would launch the bed across the room doing 250mm/s 😂
Seeing that aluminum housing made me think of the Juicero video from AvE, although not nearly as absurd
I am slightly skeptical, This seems to be to good to be true. I would rater like to see a production version and see if that's up to par with all the cost cutting.
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I backed in the first few hours, glad they sent out a few more units for review so i can get more informations that way. Thanks for the nice review Alex
According to their Kickstarter, the $429 is a special early price, and that reward is no longer available. The MSRP is $759. This is clearly not a machine for beginners, which is weird considering the features make it much easier to use
Guessing this video caused those options to sell out immediately. Big brain Anker, using a sponsored video while they're still filling Kickstarter orders...
I'm in Aus and i can see it for US$629. I wonder if different regions are seeing different pages...?
This is absolutely a machine for beginners. Beginner doesn't mean "broke" you know. They're going for a "just turn it on and start printing" kind of deal I think trying to reach a community of people who would like to get into 3D printing but get scared away because every review I've ever watched of a 3D printer in those price range is "If you do X or Y and use Z mod it's a really good printer" whereas this is marketed as "Put it together, plug into the wall, use the app and start printing"
Beginner friendly is a different definition to cheap. Beginners will pay for ease of use and will prioritise options that "just work" over those with more features that require tinkering.
@@naunau311 But a high price tag is often a turn off for beginners. Lots of people want something cheap, but not as good, to try out, then upgrade in the future.
This may not be high end, but it's priced like a mid range printer
I’m an old school Anker fan and I was super excited about this when I got an email about it a couple months ago. They are a great company that makes affordable tech that is solid and if you have a problem they make it more than right. I’ve had them give me free gear because of an issue. I’ve wanted my own 3D printer for years and finally decided to get one for my birthday and then this came out so I did! I got the early bird deal and even though I have to wait until later this year I’m patient. It seems way better than the Prusa Mini I was gonna get and the price wasn’t far off either in early bird. This will be an excellent first 3D printer and I believe this device will kickstart (heh) a 3D printer revolution in the consumer space over the coming decade.
It looks like a good machine i got nothing against it. But I think ill stick to my Vorons and RatRigs. CoreXY is the future these cartesian printers are so 2015.
Disappointed in the stepper motor noise. I went through the trouble of upgrading the motherboard on an ender 3 to get silent stepper motor drivers, huge difference.
The 5x faster isn’t that impressive when you look at the numbers cause you don’t know what it’s being compared to and from my experience those numbers actually fall in line with any regular printer.
Well, the "default" ender 3 speed is 50mm/s, so that's 5x ender 3 speed.
I run my ender 3 up to 100mm/s, but wouldn't try 250 so it's impressive with a bed slinger
looking at it printing, it looks like it's still around the 'regular' 50-60mm/s. I doubt it could ever get up to a 250mm/s print speed since the printer also has to account for acceleration and jerk settings. The hot end is probably along the lines of a V6 style & bowden, so even if it could get to 250mm/s I doubt it could be fed properly. At the end of the day it's as idiot proof as any other 3d printer: works just fine until it doesn't and then it's tear it down and tinker time.
Can you save the ABL mesh? Seems like this would be a much better approach as opposed to probing the bed everytime
More 3D-printing videos! :)
That filament runnout is not good IMO. If a filament ends, its inside of that box with no access to it. how would you take it out? Does the printer retract the filament already existing inside the tube and prompt you to insert more?
Usually you just feed your next filament through and now you have a color swap!!
@@heehaw316althoght that is True. It is not optimal, is it...
🤘🤘 haha nicely done tearing it open 🤣 prints really dang great
I’m curious if it also had the aluminum on the inside of yours, if they let you keep it or if you still have it, I’m a little curious to see if you got a more current model
@@chrismajewski4884 I’m assuming mine does because the machine weighs about 25lbs
Should be noted that unless the model has longer extrusion paths where it can accelerate up to max speed between curves/turns, it wont actually print 250mm/s. An easy way to demonstrate this is to print that sample model at 250mm/s and at 50mm/s. I am pretty sure the print time for the faster speed might be half the time, but it wont be 1/5 the time because the model is small and intricate.
At $430, that's a yes, but at $700+ that's a hard no from me dawg. At that price, i'd probably go for a large scale 4k or 8k resin printer.
But my use cases would be very different than many other people's. I'd be more interested in making custom TTRPG minis and stuff like that.
The editor added text is sooooo good.
Me who will never own a 3D printer - watches a 3D printer reiview / unboxing
I was in the same boat, but after watching this... I want one for myself. - Jono
Backed up the Kickstarter before this video was out. Glad to see it function as intended
I would love a full review on this when its official released.
Who is this video aimed at? For someone that's entirely new to FDM then it's okay, but as an intro to a new printer for those already experienced it's pretty weak in detail. It looks nice but at the ~$800 USD price point I can't see buying this over an i3.
Also clipping the filament at the heatbreak was a very strange thing to do... There appears to be a filament run out sensor integrated into the extruder but cutting it there won't trip that sensor until the roll runs out and not someone has to pull that filament in there out because it's not going anywhere, seems like an unnecessary mess if the filament melts in the heatbreak (I have no idea if it has a PTFE tube of it's even an all metal hotend because Alex didn't say).
Great vid guys!
Thanks!
@@ShortCircuit why reply to this comment specifically ? lol
@@cleverclever2317 cause it came up and it's nice to reply back with some positive vibes. - Jono
@@ShortCircuit Why reply to that reply specifically?
More maker and 3D printer videos please! Do the Prusa XL when it comes out!