Causes & Consequences of the Mahatma Murder - Koenraad Elst -
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- In this Indic talk, the speaker deconstructs the ‘saintly’ personality of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi and examines the causes behind his assassination. The speaker informs us that the reconversion of Muslims to Hindus that had been pioneered by the Arya Samaj in North India was followed by a spate of assassinations of Hindu leaders like Swami Shraddhanand. The speaker tells us that in all such cases, Gandhi denounced the Hindu victims and sympathised with the Muslim murderers. This attitude was noticed by the Hindus and further flared up their pent up emotions. Moreover, the speaker explains that by repeatedly bowing down to the demands of Muslims, Gandhi propagated a perverted version of non-violence. He tolerated and accepted the aggression of Islamist leaders. Overall, the speaker lays bare the suicidal position of non-violence adopted by Gandhi and the accompanying false sense of righteousness.
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This is a goddamn History Masterclass. Pure golden content. Amazingly nuanced and balanced.
"Gandhi is used as a trump card against Hindu nationalists" - So True
An honest courageous portrayal of gandhi. My 🙏 to Dr. Elst
Illuminating talk. Brilliant
Now that one is hearing all these alternate facts..earlier suppressed for 60 years by Congress...we all were taught to love and Revere Gandhiji. So I also loved Gandhiji and used to fight with anyone who hated him. I would be shocked and earnestly argue back..convinced that anyone criticizing Gandhiji must be inhuman. But over past 10 years slowly I have been forced to rethink because actions of Gandhiji cannot be explained away. They are uncomfortable and creepy at times. Right after his wife (long suffering simple lady) died, something very disturbing happened to Gandhi. Seems like he never ever got over his sexual obsession and spent a lot of his time doing social experiments about it. He decided to take his following and run his Ashram where he convinced his followers to let their young innocent underage sons and daughters bathe nude with him as a common bath. He wanted to see if Kids are naturally sexual. He made one or other girl, in rotation sleep in the nude in his bed, to see if his sexual desire arose and if he could control it. His followers were embarrassed and shocked...About doing such creepy things...just imagine that time in conservative India ..people could not even talk of such things in society. Some fathers ran to Sardar Patel and asked him to stop Gandhiji from such strange acts. They were torn between their love for Gandhiji and concern for their daughters/sons. Sardar Patel wrote to Gandhiji inquiring if he was doing such strange things. Gandhiji had guts. He not only accepted it, he tried to explain that it's natural..his intentions are right and he is only testing his self control. Also he keeps his eyes closed and does not watch when the girls bathe themselves. Huh! Sardar Patel was disgusted and told him to stop it but then he also was too embarrassed to do anything when the kids parents...living right there were not reacting. Reminds anyone of Asaram Bapu? Today the family who is finally fighting a case for their daughter with Asaram Bapu initially refused to believe their own daughter when she told them she was raped. They eventually believed her 2 years later. In all conscience I cannot accept this dirty evil behavior of Gandhiji. In simple words nothing explains it. Today I realize Gandhiji was probably like Kejriwal back then. He was made a Mahatma ..he never was.
Very true.
These "alternate facts " were suppressed by whom?
Why bring in Asaram Bapu ? You cannot put a man in prison based on just one person’s statement and not believing the other side. There is a movement in India to imprison Hindu Gurus and ultimately destroy Hinduism.
He told the jews to just die until the nazis showed sympathy. That is enough to prove mahatma was a moron.
@Gunne_r r He's destroyed and poisoned the Hindu mindset and many many Hindus were against him. But asshole Nehru was anti-hindu and he purposely used this shit and Hindus have ever since been taught bullshit ahimsa and what not. In the first place, ahimsa doesn't mean non-violence. It means you're following the path of least violence(direct or indirect) . So, if a terrorist came and was going to kill a lot of people with a gun or a bomb, then killing him would be the path of ahimsa. This bakchod Gandhi defined it as "non-violence" and ever since then Hindus have been taught to not just be like Arjuna but be even worse
After centuries of pain and suffering, God did not relent and gave us Gandhi and Nehru. Hopefully Modi and the leaders to follow make us forget all this.
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I wish there was more such analysis of actions of Gandhi. He has been made into a God whom no one can criticize. In my opinion he was a the greatest villain produced by Hindu community in at least last thousand years. He did great damage to the nation and Hindu cause. Gandhism is still doing same thing today
His eldest son Devdas was strongly against (and ashamed of) his experimenting with celibacy late in life (till the very end)
Agreed
gandhi was a bloody womenizer.i have listened the interviews of those people who have seen gabdhi suring azadi movements .all of them criticise him.
Absolutely love the analogy between the Creation of Pakistan & the Prophet's quest for expansion!
Both Rajaji and Gandhiji were Vaishnavas. No reason why he should have objected to his son's Inter-class(caste-super-imposed term for Varna, which IS NOT caste). His son was rising higher, not going lower by marrying a Brahmin.. I doubt, caste was the issue. Language and a Southern Sanskruti was. Furthermore, Rajaji was the Brain Trust of Bharat. If his Swatantra Party had come up, India would have prospered.
Privately , Gandhi may have been a convert to islam,the manner in which he went about with his "Hindu-muslim bhai-bhai" ( lending Indira his name , when she really was a muslim Ghandy khan) campaign.He surely was pro-muslim/kristu. He thought, giving Hindus the :" Vaishnav Jana to tene kahiye" Prabhatiyu will solve all their problems. In other words, he did nothing for the Hindus.
Rajaji was pro Pakistan
@@indialover83 So were many other leaders as formation of Pakistan was a reality and a full population exchange would have served the interests of the rest of India. If you listened to the lecture, 295A was created to shield Islam from criticism and the Empire from Muslim aggression.
@Lucifer Iblees exactly. marrying a "mleccha" would be considered a greater offence but meh Gandhi was a hypocrite and a moron
@@RitwikRaghav right
Your suspicions are well founded
Praiseworthy work 🙏
Exactly ! neither MKG's, nor indira(momana)ghandy khan's/ rajiv /sanjay ghandy khan's deaths were martyrdoms.They were murders.plain and simple. Who did them had been hidden for political motivational reasons. But , they were not for the CAUSE OF THE NATION -BALIDANS.Shaheed is not the right word for them. Nor , can they be compared with Netaji/ Bhagat Singh etc.,
Very true
Why are you calling them Khans? Don't fall for fake news. It was.feroze Ghandy. Not Khan.
It will be interesting to see when the first partition of a western European country will happen with a little Pakistan type state making its appearance.
happened many times before ,ever read about ireland
Ireland is not "Pakistan type", though. Watch out for the developments in France. Some scholars are predicting (and advocating) its division into an Islamic part and a non-Islamic part.
the irish hated the british for 500 years
look oi actually that would be unlikely. Minority population in less than 10%. This continent has seen multiple genocides over the ages. Presently liberalism suits its agenda. The moment it doesn’t concentration camps will be back in vogue. Entire Europe / US is shifting gradually right. This is evident.
@sonu singh Western Europe not east
Best analysis of Gandhi ever !
Namaste amazing talk !
Excellent presentation Sir
It's very unfortunate for us to listen our own history(real history) from foreigners.
Our leaders then during colonial and post independent didn't show boldness in at least accepting history as it is.
The way Indian history goes , none of its leaders are beyond criticism.
Dr. Könraad Elst is such a badass, he makes me look like a politically correct wimp.
Nakul Gote he's brilliant, and he has no agenda
He is a total badass! 🙏
@Arid He is demonized by left . This is the main reason why he is not popular among the Masses. What is more discourging that despite being Elst has so much Knowledge he is not promoted niether by BJP and nor so called Right wing of India. Same goes with Sita Ram goel ,jadunath Sarkar,Harish Narain,R.C Majumdar.
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Maybe . Swamy is only ignored because he is not loyal and has a big ego.
"Why We murdered Gandhiji" was talked about by none other than Gopal Godse, brother of Nathuram Godse the assassin, in his book in Marathi titled "'Victim of 55 Crores".
Dr Ambedkar was a genius,just read his books specially pakistan-partition of India,beautiful book in which he explain about the muslims nd relation with India
Ya, it appears he was quite objective, unbiased and an exceptional scholar with deep intelligence
First time I see RSS explained so well
"Gandhi's mistakes were Hindu Society's mistakes."
"Any Criticism of Gandhi should, in fact, be the Criticism of the mentality of a Common Average Hindu."
what is that ? who got the permanent copyright to criticize all indians of that time and billions in the times to come ? looks like a british bulldog made this statement who doesn't know the value of life. billion lives ? is that a joke?
@@sannewgen
Do you know about Prithvi Raj syndrome?
It was a mistake of Hindu Society.
@@sannewgen we do have that syndrome as a culture
Nice well researched talk.
Thanq for a proper perspective on the subject....
Important talk
Is there a similar analysis of the personal life of B. R. Ambedkar?
Gandhis mistake made us lose more one third India's land 🙁🙁🙁
Asking refugees to go back to Pakistan?!!!! Shocking!!! Was MKG capable of empathy? I've grown up listening to Partition Stories as my mother's fly fled and came to India. I read somewhere that he asked the Jews too to sacrifice their lives to Hitler till he realized the folly of his act. Is such a thinking sane? Religious? Spiritual in any way?
Don't let Mecca Medina strategy part 2 (Islamization of India after taking away a Muslim Pakistan) succeed in India this time
Maratha Shudras attacked and killed Brahmans in Maharashtra to avenge the assassination of Duratma Gandhasura by Mahatma Nathuram Godse.
I wish all of us including Koenraad Elst stop using this word ' mahatma' while talking about gandhi. Why not stick to mk.gandhi instead ?
What happened in Kerala is GENOCIDE of Hindus by muslims. Not anti Hndu violence but GENOCIDE . mk.gandhi remained apathetic. Hence ''khilafart gandhi'' is more befitting.
Hindus should listen to Sri.Sandeep Balakrishna who presents the unvarnished Truth about moplahs' GENOCIDE of Hindus.
Gandhi was mahatma to impress muslims
And to impress the world,
Feel pity he not received noble peace prize
I was punished in school for not calling gandji" ji"
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Full support, I refer to him as M K Gandhi
I always wondered why Gandhi was never conferred with the Nobel prize for peace.
He could have arranged that, lot of peace prizes are arranged, given to people who have good PR rather than having actually put in their lives to ensure peace
After hearing Gandhi's reaction and remarks (which are well recorded) about 1921 Moplah riots against Hindus, I lost all regard for this 'Mahatma' (actually Duratma) Gandhi.
It's an insult to this country that all our currency notes bear his picture and we have a national holiday to commemorate this charlatan. Please raise your voice to support this matters
Gandhi’s crime is not that he did not give his son’s modern education ! It is that he denied them any kind of meaningful education and denied his wife meaningful medicine, be it allopathy or homeopathy
My knowledge goes very much similar to ur studies n opinion.is also similar
Plz call him MK GANDHI instead of mahatma 😏😏
Right
read the article the "traitor name is gandhi" in internet
We should start to print other great freedom fighters on the Rupee notes.
vhi what the hell is he doing on our day to day medium of exchange the currency notes hatao yarr
hadd ki bhi hadd ho gyi haii
He overestimated everything around him including himself but grossly underestimated the great seducer and great enchantress MAYA and practical persons like Subhash Chandra Bose and Babasaheb Ambedkar
Are there certain ugly parts in the social psyche of a community, which can be said to be inevitale, inexorable and belonging to necessary evil category. For example, finding a suitable mate for the role of life partner, even educated gentlemen are subject to selfish manipulation when they face some sort of competition from his good friends . This applies to other areas of man's social and economic activities for survival . Thus social harmony and co-operation and competition for survival work hand in hand ... Thus there is a trade -off between certain kinds of expected social norms for the over-all good of the community and individual survival..
Gandhi was mediocre person, but we are forced to follow him otherwise we will become fringe,fool, uneducated etc.
how he became a father of nation
Shiv Sena was never against Brahmins
imran atheist Brahmins did not impose caste
Shivsena is not v cast base. It is formed for all marathi people
When you don't know about Bharamin aur Sanatan Dharma.
#First time i have seen a atheist Muslim who is still alive....
Fake people carrying fake ancestral history...
please do not call him mahatma
call him traitor gandhi
Dr. Koenraad Elst presents a well-researched account of the events that shaped the life of Mahatma Gandhi and were at the root of a fiery hostility among a smaller section of Indians that ultimately led to his assasination in 1948. However, a compilation of data without a genuine curiosity and interest in the developing processes and the historical context of each event will remain only empirical scholarship. We must not forget that Gandhi was a human mortal who had some native moral spirit that ignited the flame of his greatness as he evolved gradually with the turns of history. Although some of his decisions and strategies did not work out as he had intended, and even appear to be primitive and erratic vis-a-vis the realities of more modern times, the fact that he could mobilize the huge nation subjugated under a foreign yoke and immersed in extreme penury and misery to rise as a nation was due to his complete honesty, earnest patriotism, spiced with his quintessential faith in the moral being and its strength to be expressed in individual efforts with self-respect, human dignity, mutual cooperation, and commitment to truth. Adoption of violence for acquiring justice or anything that matters was anathema to him. He took the lead showing the path of that mission through non-violent but honest means, while showing his readiness at self-sacrifice. Regardless of what his critics and detractors might say about him, his exemplary methods drew the most admiring attention of people throughout the globe, - from ordinary masses to the great intellectuals such as G.B. Shaw, Romain Rolland, to Albert Einstein, and many others. We may blame him for his shortcomings today, but the very fact that his life and works are being dissected, quarreled about, and even thrown to the human vultures is an irrefutable testimony to Gandhi's greatness and extra-ordinary contributions not only to India's independence, but to human civilization as a whole.
But why did he justify murder of Swami shraddhanand by abdul rashid
@@ro45fan70 He was a bigot. A dictator at heart or else he wouldn't have opposed Neta ji Subhash Chandra Bose in the way he did. Only ignoramuses can believe that he won independence for India. Britishers left India because they sensed the likely revolt in the Indian Army. Boss had already triggered that revolt. Also, post-WW II they were grossly weakened and not in a position to control India―thanks to Adolf Hitler.! Let's not not forget the era of slavery had also begun to end and one after another many states were granted independence. It's deplorable that MKG has been wrongly placed on a very high pedestal. Time has come to reassess him and dethrone him . Whosoever assigned him the title of Rashtrapita has done great injustice to India. In this world persons are not adjudged by their intentions, but by their actions. Even though MKG had a heart of gold―so has a hard boiled egg.. Remember, Ashoka at one point of time ruled over a vast empire, after embracing Buddhism and turning pacifist , his empire crumbled.
why Mr MK Gandhi disrespectfully renounced his Sacred thread ( Yagya Upaveet, Janeu) while still a family-men though it is against Hindu ethics........................... though his paternal side were Vaishnavites but His mother was a disciple of Muslim Gaddi Kabir-panthi Abbott..............................................................
He was not a Brahmin, rather a dirty bania trying to be a Brahmin. He never wore any thread
Biggest Mistake Of People Of Our Country Bharat Hindustan India That We Trusted Chose Wrong Person M K Gandhi As Our Freedom Fighter Double Cross Person
Haire hai
WATCH NATHURAM GHODSE'S UTUBE HE DEFENDED IMSELF IN SUPREME COURT. NEHRU DID NOT HAVE THE COURAGE & DID NOT WANT PEOPLE OF INDIA TO KNOW THE THE REAL REASONS WHY NATHURAM GHODSE ASSACINATED GANDHI.
JINNA CREATED PORKISTAN & PRESENT BANGLADESH FORMER EAST PORKISTAN FOR MUSLIMS ONLY. WHY ALL MUSLIMS OF INDIA DID NOT GO TO PORKISTAN? GANDHI & NEHRU TO GET MUSLIM VOTES FOR SELFISHSH MOTIVES ENCOURAGED MUSLIMS TO LIVE IN INDIA CREATING UNSOLVABLE PROBLEMS AS MUSLIMS WANT THEIR DEMANDS. INDIA SHOULD HAVE TOLD MUSLIMS IF TEY WANT TO LIVE IN INDIA TO ENJOOY BETTER LIFE & FREEDOM THEY SHOULD NOT DEMAND LIVE PEACEFULLY.
NEHRU & GANDHI OF INDIAGAVE SPECIAL STATUS TO MUSLIMS, HEIGHT OF STUPIDITY.
GHODSE HAS GIVEN HIS COMPELLING REASONS PEOPLE OF INDIA SHOULD LISTEN TO UNDERSTAND.
Many books in marathi on Godse
Nathuram Godse, I salute your courage, both physical and moral conviction, to kill this man M K Gandhi. He deserved this very much, howsoever hard it may sound, but that's the only conclusion I could reach.
He was not a celibate ... look at his experiments in bed
He's was Johnny sins 😅😆 😆 n Indira was Mia khalifa ( read "she chapter of m.o mathai book" on Google)
Rather 'Merriments in the bed'
Proud to have some leaders like -
Late Atal Vajpayee 🌟
PM Modi ♥️
Amit Shah 😎
New Yogis 🙏🏻
Not so Mahan story of a man so called Mahatma 😀
Gandhi lived for himself and for fame.
पंडित नाथूराम गोडसे अमर रहें
Jay Parshuram Jay Rau Jay Godse
Cleverest bourgeois scoundrel, Communist said it .
Baba saheb ji Ambedkar owned a home in England and not even spent single day in jail WHILE GANDHI did not even leave one time meal / food for his family .
A man from west will teach us who is what !!!!
Interesting points have been gathered by Dr. Elst from the people who are Mahatma Gandhi’s worst detractors and enemies. By imputing murky motives on Gandhi’s works and utterances, those people imply that the Mahatma was a charlatan. It is incumbent on any self-appointed historian with integrity to delve deep into those actions and comments of Gandhiji at different times and phases of his personal and revolutionary life, and at least conjecture his possible rationale for those commitments. I am concerned that, as the aphorism goes, a little learning is a dangerous thing. We should focus on the elements that made him a super-human being or Mahatma instead of indulging in some subhuman instinct of turd-gouging.
Reportedly, while in South Africa where he went with the intention to build a practice as an England-educated barrister, he joined the white people’s military units. But he joined only as a stretcher-bearer to serve the injured and sick soldiers. His motive was purely humanitarian. His enemies are unjustly painting him as a pro-military servant of the white rulers. As the leader of India’s national movement he has been accused of a pro-British stand on several occasions. The fact is, while he intensely realized that for restoration of the standards and dignity of the trampled common people of severely impoverished India the task was two-fold : to generate self-confidence and social justice in the Indian society through instruction, education, and economic autonomy of the deprived people (e.g., promoting cottage industries, spinning wheel, etc.); and to seek emancipation from the foreign rule. He realized that in India any fundamental social reformation cannot be achieved completely divorced from the deeply rooted religious faiths and traditions. At that time, isolated Indian groups here and there were attracted to terrorizing the British officials and institutions through explosions and targeted murders. If Gandhi adopted the same path, he would end up on the gallows in no time, and there would be the end of his mission. Terrorism anywhere may bring a short-time victory,- ugly, miserable, and disgusting at that, but yields no lasting gain for a stable democratic humane society, as history of the world has illustrated many times. He attached his absolute faith in humanity, and so believed that nonviolent passive resistance would eventually shame the foreign rulers and force them to leave India. At the same time he understood that the country’s people, torn by many divisive forces and callous and apathetic to a national model and ideals, were far from prepared to stand as a united nation. Moreover, the British were ruling the country, with all their atrocities, only through their subservient Indian officers and men. Gandhi maintained a reasonable respect for the good qualities of the English culture and traditions of democracy, from which he himself as well as almost all other front-rank national leaders in India, even several protagonists of terrorism, derived emotional and educational enrichment. Finally, India’s amicable separation from Britain in 1947 made possible a continued bonding of the free India with U.K. and the Western world, - international understanding and economic and industrial cooperation that made possible India’s rapid development. A hostile warfare against them would only leave India and its people in shambles and fathomless misery. Today the British Parliament has several members and Lords of Indian descent.
Also, undeniably India had derived many benefits from the British rule (regardless of the rulers’ self-serving motives for those establishments). Examples, the paved roads, railways, water and sanitary toilets and sewage systems, modern postal system, law courts, educational institutions, archaeological recoveries, modern allopathic medicine and surgery, infectious diseases control, etc.. It’s no denial of the probability that Indians could also achieve such material progress someday without the aliens’ occupation, but would have to limp through many more decades, if only the country were not torn in pieces by the feudal Maharajas without a strong responsible central government..
In the World War I Gandhi’s advice to Indians to join the British military grew out of his moral qualms,- not to let down at that desperate time the ruling nation with which Indians were tied for so long. He was however disillusioned after the Jaliwanwalla Bag massacre, and later declined Indians’support in WWII. A secondary benefit of that decision was large-scale employment of Indians, and the foundation of India’s own loyal armed forces which was a great help in post-independence India. It is a sad reality that if the British administrative discipline did not precede India’s independence, the entire country might go under a reckless Fascist rule,[ just as we see today in the Mussolini-style goonda brigade forming the government in one culturally advanced Indian state that even shamelessly makes a travesty of the election process by open terror through hired hooligans].
About Gandhi’s other decisions and strategies that are being criticized today, counter-arguments can be skipped in this column for the sake of parsimony. It is clear that Mahatma Gandhi was a single person in the world who believed that India as a nation could attain the status of the mythological age of the Ramayana, where every citizen would live a puritan, truthful life basking in a realm of just and compassionate rule. That was the root of his self-purification and “Satyagraha”. In his quest for that Utopia, he took the celibacy vow, however after fathering four healthy children. So, he did not betray his conjugal life or family life as he is accused of. Who invented that Gandhi’s wife did not consent to that decision! Numerous young volunteers fighting for freedom in India used to take a celibacy vow until the shackles of the foreign rule were shed. The man without any malice, who lived out his life symbolizing the poorest of the poor people of India, barely clad in a knee-length loincloth even in the chilly winter, walking miles on his long marches barefoot or wearing open rubber slippers, living among them, traveling and eating a meager diet like, and with the destitute and the so-called untouchables (despite himself having been born in an affluent socio-economic class and upper caste and being an English-educated barrister), called the trampled caste people as “Harijan” or God’s people, demanded their rights to social equality and justice, led them to temple entry defying the strong Brahmin resistance, and exhorted the upper caste / classes to learn to respect them through cleaning their own toilets as he did himself - is being attacked today as a racist and caste-defender. Gandhi was the pioneer fighter for rights and dignity of the “Dalits” or outcaste people, at a time when Dr. Ambedkar (a ‘Dalit’ scholar) was only a young student. What a shame for the present-day pseudo-intellectual character-assassins !! What ingratitude of that nation !! Nathuram Godse, the dastardly coward with his gang only destroyed his frail body when he himself had laid down all his guards declining all protection measures. Those creeps did not dare to approach any leader of the abominable murderous villains of the Jinnah League who lived in guarded palaces.. Today a new genre of unthinking brutes are popping up on the horizon.
However, Gandhi’s comments on the positive aspects of the ancient Hindu caste tradition needs a whole chapter to discuss objectively.
Numerous inaccuracies (1) that Gandhi’s “My experiments ...” is mostly about South Africa
(2) that Shiv Sena is anti-Brahmin - they actually gave Maharashtra its first Brahmin Chief Minister
(3) Hundreds were killed in anti-Brahmin violence post Gandhi’s murder
(4) The anti-Brahmin sentiment in Maharashtra has historical origins dating back to the foundation of Hindavi Swaraj
Not a very well researched lecture
even CONGRESS gave many HINDU pms but its core is ANTI HINDU ...
you hv to dive down to ideology not political opportunism first ...
What is wrong in point 3? It did happen
@@chan625 Will you cite a source please?
@@19683 I have history of my own family, they lost everything except that their house wasn't bruned down although it was looted and no one was physically hurt. Some brahmin houses in the village & villages around weren't so lucky, especially those who resisted the looting. Even if you consider just the western Maharashtra, killings in 100s should not at all be a stretch.
@@chan625 i also am acquainted with many whose houses, properties, were burnt down. The institution I studied in had one of its buildings set on fire. We are talking about killings, kindly cite a source.
One person did die, Narayanrao, VDS's younger brother.
Dr Elst is a great scholar but he is very unfair to gandhi in this video
Vishal Sinha Gandhi did not win India independence , Shubhash Chandra Bose did . He delayed it , could not prevent partition .
Vishal Sinha, Elst is impartial, neutral and objective. Rational, as opposed to emotional. Gandhi did give step-motherly(fatherly) treatment to Hindus.
Critique of gandhi is critique of hindus , as hindus kerp repeating mistakes and repent them later . We must learn from our mistakes .
@@siddharthsiddharth7106 i look at this criticism on Gandhi only. N it was reality.
Why so many false allegations on Gandhiji. What's wrong if he preaches Hindu Muslim Unity, what's wrong if he preaches to people to come out of the trap which Britishers had laid in the name of Modernization.What's wrong if he take's vow of celibacy. What's wrong if he supports to recruit Indian soldiers in to world war 1 on behalf of British (Since he strongly believes the Britishers should be eliminated from Indian context altogether). if British lose in the world war we will be colonized by some other European who wins over British, Which would be worse scenario for India at that time). Gandhiji was the only man who knew what exactly Indian society needed, A Gram Swarajya which would benefit every individual in the country, Not like the situation now even after 1947 we are still colonized education system, Judicial system, dirty Parliamentary democracy which is worse than British rule (More worse for Hindus are concerned, we are bearing the brunt of Secularism). It is easy to blame Gandhiji for some silly things heard from some silly people. But we should understand that He was the only man who wanted every downtrodden person in this country should be elevated from the situation which Britishers have placed our country in.
non of the ideas or precursors of ideas which gandhi used his whole life for independant of india were his own ideas.he even didnot aknowlege any one of those people whom ideas he used to became famous.neither do congress party.
gandi was not symbol of hindu- muslim unity. infact he was a pro muslims.
when mislims were killing 1000 hindus in kolkataabd other places, gandhi even didnot make a comments on the massacre but dramatically went on hunger strike to force goverment to provide the hunge amount of money to pakistan.
lastly u probably did not have studied about the sex life of gandhi. manu ben clearly wrote about his activities and relationship with the arshram girls and her too.
@@myke_770it is a dirty truth of Gandhi. He dominated rather crushed so many leaders such as when Lokmanya Tilak came out of jail he made him not to join congress. That's why he formed Home rule league. He was always biased. There r many more examples which prove it.
Its wrong when one group is using that to gain independencd and then use that moment to create separate country driving out the ones who fought for independence. Read about Calcutta Killings.
Such a shameful act by supposedly a scholar. Almost invents and distorts facts to engage in name calling.
When every time truth is revealed People like you comment without knowing anything. If you know show some fact.
I ashamed that people like are part of our society.....
@@thakursatish100 how many facts you want? Pls tell me what's the relevance of Gandhi's sexual life to his assassination the topic of this post? Why would one need consent of one's wife if one is going for abstinence? And the assertions made about inter caste marriage is just a conjecture. Same with Western education - if Gandhi had it because his father deemed it fit, and of his son didn't because Gandhi deemed that fit. What's the contradiction here that this bigot with a pea sized brain can't process? Now stop feeling ashamed, which must be coming from somewhere inside and think.
@@jarinwallah A marriage between man n woman is performed for social financial and sexual needs of both parties...how can u make such vows of abstinence without the partner's consent..it becomes punishment for the other if she is not willing. What about medication..?? Isn't it her right to get treated..? Who was Mr Gandhi to call Hindus cowards during the Moplah genocide..You question this mans motives...what are your motives...
@@jonik2121 aw, so cute. Let me see how your logic fare up if we flip the situation. If I want to have sex and my wife doesn't, what should i do? Wait for her consent? But her absitence is a null and void so I can force myself upon her. Right? Well that's the textbook marital rape. I know perhaps you don't recognise it. But it's wrong in every sense of the word. You see where I am going. Having sex is what requires consent, not absitence and that too after years of conjugal relations. Remember their young age at the time of marriage. You might want to check how often your parents have sex.
@@jonik2121 on medicine, I agree with you. It should be her call. But do you know if she wanted medicine despite Gandhi's objection? I don't agree with Gandhi on this, but I know many people refuse medication and treatment for their beliefs, religious or otherwise. Just a couple of years back, a lady of Indian origin died in Ireland because of anti abortion law.
Calling someone a coward is an opinion, and that should be seen in the context of that time and the thought process. And it might be an unfair comment for all I care.
Now pray tell me, what's the relation between sex life of someone and his assassination? What kind of perverse intentions can explain this? Why are you so interested in Gandhi's sex life?
Indus university keeps updating video on subjects on hindu.
Archeological evidence from the indus site has no evidence on religious worship, indus people are non Hindus. Same evidence surfaces in south India, Hinduism has come from a new settlers.
Indus university talks are structured on subjects of intrest to RSS .
Everyone is entitled to have their hindsight view of what happened historically. To me Gandhiji will always be a spiritual being that existed in India when she most needed him. It has been said that when people were near him they could hear “Ram Ram” name emanating from his body. He was in touch with Sri Anandamayi Ma who told him that she would come for him on his death day. A realised being helping Gandhiji ! Fancy that considering that this monologue is all about slating him. Make your own investigation and decide for yourself before you renounce Gandhiji if you find him lacking. 🙏🏼🌺🌺🙏🏼
No reason can justify killing of vaishnaite non violent man Gandhiji.
Interesting points have been gathered by Dr. Elst from the people who are Mahatma Gandhi’s worst detractors and enemies. By imputing murky motives on Gandhi’s works and utterances, those people imply that the Mahatma was a charlatan. It is incumbent on any self-appointed historian with integrity to delve deep into those actions and comments of Gandhiji at different times and phases of his personal and revolutionary life, and at least conjecture his possible rationale for those commitments. I am concerned that, as the aphorism goes, a little learning is a dangerous thing. We should focus on the elements that made him a super-human being or ‘Mahatma’ instead of indulging in some subhuman instinct of turd-gouging.
Reportedly, while in South Africa where he went with the intention to build a practice as an England-educated barrister, he joined the white people’s military units. But he joined only as a stretcher-bearer to serve the injured and sick soldiers. His motive was purely humanitarian. His enemies are unjustly painting him as a pro-military servant of the white rulers. As the leader of India’s national movement he has been accused of a pro-British stand on several occasions. The fact is, while he intensely realized that for restoration of the standards and dignity of the trampled common people of severely impoverished India the task was two-fold : to generate self-confidence and social justice in the Indian society through instruction, education, and economic autonomy of the deprived people (e.g., promoting cottage industries, spinning wheel, etc.); and to seek emancipation from the foreign rule. He realized that in India any fundamental social reformation cannot be achieved completely divorced from the deeply rooted religious faiths and traditions. At that time, isolated Indian groups here and there were attracted to terrorizing the British officials and institutions through explosions and targeted murders. If Gandhi adopted the same path, he would end up on the gallows in no time, and there would be the end of his mission. Terrorism anywhere may bring a short-time victory,- ugly, miserable, and disgusting at that, but yields no lasting gain for a stable democratic humane society, as history of the world has illustrated many times. He attached his absolute faith in humanity, and so believed that nonviolent passive resistance would eventually shame the foreign rulers and force them to leave India. At the same time he understood that the country’s people, torn by many divisive forces and callous and apathetic to a national model and ideals, were far from prepared to stand as a united nation. Moreover, the British were ruling the country, with all their atrocities, only through their subservient Indian officers and men. Gandhi maintained a reasonable respect for the good qualities of the English culture and traditions of democracy, from which he himself as well as almost all other front-rank national leaders in India, even several protagonists of terrorism, derived emotional and educational enrichment. Finally, India’s amicable separation from Britain in 1947 made possible a continued bonding of the free India with U.K. and the Western world, - international understanding and economic and industrial cooperation that made possible India’s rapid development. A hostile warfare against them would only leave India and its people in shambles and fathomless misery. Today the British Parliament has several members and Lords of Indian descent, while countless meritorious Indian students and senior scholars go there to study, research, and teach at some of the best British universities and get settled there.
Also, undeniably India had derived many “collateral” benefits from the British rule (regardless of the rulers’ self-serving motives for those establishments). Examples, the paved roads, railways, water systems, modern postal system, law courts, educational institutions, archaeological recoveries, modern allopathic medicine and surgery, infectious diseases control, etc.. Of course, the British also derived much knowledge and skills that already existed in India. It’s no denial of the possibility that Indians could also achieve such material progress someday without the aliens’ occupation, but would have to limp through many more decades, if only the country were not torn in pieces by the feudal Maharajas without a strong responsible central government. Indian intellectuals’ talents and scientific discoveries flourished along with many British contributions such as steam engines, petroleum industries, small pox vaccine, fundamental laws of physics, chemistry, mathematics, physiology and medicine.
In the World War I Gandhi’s advice to Indians to join the British military grew out of his moral qualms,- not to let down at that desperate time the ruling nation with which Indians were tied for so long. He was however disillusioned after the Jaliwanwalla Bag massacre, and later declined Indians’support in WWII, at the price of his harsh imprisonment for several years where he had to experience the death of his co-prisoner and co-revolutionary wife Kasturbai, forlorn in a dark cell. A secondary benefit of that WWI participation was large-scale employment of Indians, and the foundation of India’s own loyal armed forces which was a great help in post-independence India (as well as for Pakistan).. It is a sad reality that if the British model of administrative discipline did not precede India’s independence, the entire country might go under a reckless Fascist rule,[ just as we see today in the Mussolini-style goonda brigade forming the government in one culturally advanced Indian state that even shamelessly makes a travesty of the election process by open terror through hired hooligans].
About Gandhi’s other decisions and strategies that are being criticized today, counter-arguments can be skipped in this column for the sake of parsimony. It is clear that Mahatma Gandhi was a single person in the world who believed that India as a nation could attain the status of the mythological age of the Ramayana, where every citizen would live a puritan, truthful life basking in a realm of just and compassionate rule. That was the root of his self-purification and “Satyagraha”. In his quest for that Utopia, he took the celibacy vow, however after fathering four healthy children. So, he did not betray his conjugal life or family life as he is accused of. Who invented that Gandhi’s wife did not consent to that decision! Numerous young volunteers fighting for freedom in India used to take a celibacy vow until the shackles of the foreign rule were shed. The man without any malice, who lived out his life symbolizing the poorest of the poor people of India, barely clad in a knee-length loincloth even in the chilly winter, walking miles on his long marches barefoot or wearing open rubber slippers, living among them, traveling and eating a meager diet like, and with the destitute and the so-called untouchables (despite himself having been born in an affluent socio-economic class and upper caste and being an English-educated barrister), called the trampled caste people as “Harijan” or God’s people, demanded their rights to social equality and justice, led them to temple entry defying the strong Brahmin resistance, and exhorted the upper caste / classes to learn to respect them through cleaning their own toilets as he did himself - is being attacked today as a racist and caste-defender. What a travesty of history! Gandhi was the pioneer fighter for rights and dignity of the “Dalits” or outcaste people, at a time when Dr. Ambedkar (a ‘Dalit’ scholar) was only a young student. What a shame for the present-day pseudo-intellectual character-assasins !! What ingratitude of that nation!! Nathuram Godse, the dastardly coward with his gang only destroyed his frail body, grasping the opportunity when the victim himself had laid down all his guards declining all protection measures. Those creeps did not dare to approach any leader of the abominable murderous villains of the Jinnah League who lived in well-guarded palaces. Today a new genre of unthinking dung-brain brutes are popping up on the horizon. None should be brainwashed by their malodorous hubris.
However, Gandhi’s comments on the positive economic aspects of the ancient Hindu caste tradition (or dynastic avocations) needs a whole chapter to discuss objectively.