Wait what, I am playing as trebizond and and ottomans are like the most powerful faction militarily and only france being better off. On the other hand I expanded to Persia and the steppes, and became a great power. I am always behind in technology because institutions spread too slowly
As a Byzantium player I can confirm this you kill Otto's completely in 2 wars and pretty easily with a decent strat but then you expand either into Austria that has gone mental or into the unleashed mamluks
Gotta love disaster Byz runs, I remember one of my first attempts quite a while back when I was significantly worse at the game where I did quite well took most of anatolia and the balkans but never broke alliance with Hungary to attack them, then quickly spiraled I think either with a coalition or just an attack from Mamlukes in which Hungary dishonoured call, then losing all of my land apart from Morea but having a quite large fleet that i used to sustain my economy by privateering the Venice trade node where I think I was getting like 20-30 Ducats which was the majority of my economy If i recall. Good Times.
Less experienced players: I am getting rebels so I need a high quality army and to reduce unrest More experienced players: I am getting rebels so I need mercs and more troops 900000 IQ players: REBELS ARE GOOD, GIMME THAT ARMY TRADITION YO
Except when youre in the age of absolutism and annexed half of the mamluk territory in 1 war, so you have to deal with 121k stack of mameluke seperatists
I was in this exact scenario when I played Byzantium, I just hired abunch of merc stacks, lost, gave up bulgaria, then killed them with muscovy 30 years later
For emergency cash, i prefer selling crown land than burgher loans. It's much more money and it's easy to get back that land later without the deficit from interest
he can try to ally austria or get favors and make bulgaria and serbia vassals so if he have favors with austria he can get back the lands that he loused
You could have done a much better job of this mate. Take some loans, hire some mercs. 25% war score in ducats would have paid off all of this which could have easily been achievable by winning battles, defending the war goal and sniping vienna.
Not worth prolonging the war + not enough force limit + economy was not as good as you think + outnumbered (even if I had mercs) and out-teched + land not worth nation ruining over + faster economic recovery to fight wars eastward + Muscovy peacing out
You mean after the war? I have a rather long truce with Austria so that's not a problem. The price isn't worth the army tradition when the economy is this small. If you mean after the truce, I have enough confidence in my allies to not get attacked, and Austria wasn't interested in more of my land.
My first playthrough as a Byzantine was right into reunifying Roman Empire. Buuuuuut... I guess I did play it with 400 hours behind me xD On the other hand. My First Ottoman play through..... Man. It was so bad. That was second campaign I ever played. It was so bad.
i feel like youre not really limit testing in these disaster saves, are you even going over force limit? you can take like massive debt, get some mercs , beat austria and go bankrupt in the truce, no?
It would have added over a thousand ducats (maybe 2k) in losses (hiring + over fl costs) to lose the war maybe *slightly* less. The goal was to achieve peace with minimal costs and losses, including money and manpower spent fighting. It's a war not worth fighting, so the best outcome was a balance between manpower/money losses and land losses.
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It's an honour for you to call my save the hardest war. I gave up on this campaign when austria declared.
Thanks to you for playing my save. Never have I felt more of a disappointment than today.
Dont feel down about it. I barely got any better than this until 1000 hours :D
oof
dont worry, i hjave 2.4k hours still cant finish the game
They never tell you in the Byz guides that fighting the Ottomans is actually the easy part.
Wait what, I am playing as trebizond and and ottomans are like the most powerful faction militarily and only france being better off. On the other hand I expanded to Persia and the steppes, and became a great power. I am always behind in technology because institutions spread too slowly
@@sasi5841 yeah but hes talking about byzantium who has 10 times trebizond's dev and much closer to institutions
@@sasi5841 trbizond doesnt have a strait with forts to hide behind
@@ethanstaaf404 playing byzantium right now. It is soon soon much easier than trebizond, almost like a walk in the park by comparison
As a Byzantium player I can confirm this you kill Otto's completely in 2 wars and pretty easily with a decent strat but then you expand either into Austria that has gone mental or into the unleashed mamluks
Gotta love disaster Byz runs, I remember one of my first attempts quite a while back when I was significantly worse at the game where I did quite well took most of anatolia and the balkans but never broke alliance with Hungary to attack them, then quickly spiraled I think either with a coalition or just an attack from Mamlukes in which Hungary dishonoured call, then losing all of my land apart from Morea but having a quite large fleet that i used to sustain my economy by privateering the Venice trade node where I think I was getting like 20-30 Ducats which was the majority of my economy If i recall. Good Times.
gotta find lots of friends to prevent getting attacked
(makes an intro about how long he's been gone when the gap between now and his last video is like the shortest of ANY gap between his videos)
uhhh I might have recorded this a while ago. I didn't expect these videos to be ready lol
Humanist Byz fills me with disgust.
Less experienced players: I am getting rebels so I need a high quality army and to reduce unrest
More experienced players: I am getting rebels so I need mercs and more troops
900000 IQ players: REBELS ARE GOOD, GIMME THAT ARMY TRADITION YO
Except when youre in the age of absolutism and annexed half of the mamluk territory in 1 war, so you have to deal with 121k stack of mameluke seperatists
ye i basically do my hardest to get rebellions atleast up until 1540ish, low autonomy higher army tradition and low unrest? sign me up
I was in this exact scenario when I played Byzantium, I just hired abunch of merc stacks, lost, gave up bulgaria, then killed them with muscovy 30 years later
Wow, I learned alot from this. Love these types of videos!
Love the disaster saves
Oh GOD the War taxes. The war Taxes!!! Aaaaaaaaaa!!!
For emergency cash, i prefer selling crown land than burgher loans. It's much more money and it's easy to get back that land later without the deficit from interest
@Gr8sc0tt Still easier to deal with
Gotta love the byzaster runs
he can try to ally austria or get favors and make bulgaria and serbia vassals so if he have favors with austria he can get back the lands that he loused
You could have done a much better job of this mate. Take some loans, hire some mercs. 25% war score in ducats would have paid off all of this which could have easily been achievable by winning battles, defending the war goal and sniping vienna.
Humanist, navy and old espionage ideas, those are the game breakers for ideas. Never choose them unless...its a mod that makea them really cool
One day i will see a red hawk colab.
The only time I use religious diplo is if I plan on force converting a LOT of other countries.
lol Humanism as Byzantines, what a move
would like to see a disaster save where the initial war isn't a loss/surrender
From someone who has saved her own disaster saves, it’s oftentimes the best option.
I remember the spoilers!
in the live stream, remember to go to Quarbit's Twitch!
This is not a disaster game ı think some bad management but completely salvageble
Why not recruit mercanaries? You have a okayish economy so you can take something from austria?
Not worth prolonging the war + not enough force limit + economy was not as good as you think + outnumbered (even if I had mercs) and out-teched + land not worth nation ruining over + faster economic recovery to fight wars eastward + Muscovy peacing out
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@@SkipsMalone didnt have to do em like that
That Anatolia hurts my soul, what kind of mess is that?
I've noticed that you've mothballed your forts. Doesn't this demolish your army tradition and isn't it a bit risky with a strong Austria next door?
You mean after the war? I have a rather long truce with Austria so that's not a problem. The price isn't worth the army tradition when the economy is this small.
If you mean after the truce, I have enough confidence in my allies to not get attacked, and Austria wasn't interested in more of my land.
I've noticed that you've no bitches. why don't you try to get some?
My first playthrough as a Byzantine was right into reunifying Roman Empire. Buuuuuut... I guess I did play it with 400 hours behind me xD On the other hand. My First Ottoman play through..... Man. It was so bad. That was second campaign I ever played. It was so bad.
Can you give me a copy of it when war start?
You should do some elden ring gameplay dude, btw love ya vids
Demetrious?
im curious, how do you even send an eu4 save file? i dont know much about computers and software if you couldnt tell
i feel like youre not really limit testing in these disaster saves, are you even going over force limit? you can take like massive debt, get some mercs , beat austria and go bankrupt in the truce, no?
lmfao guy sent his save and got shamed instead
Lol you are a peasant if you are reading this a couple hours from now. Give Quarbit money to be cool like me.
kashmir great love it
Hello Patrick Bateman! It’s good to see another one of your videos!
Post elden ring videos
don't tempt me
@@Quarbit plz man, you gotta
@@Quarbit pls uwu
@@generalpinochet9821 I never thought I’d see Pinochet say “pls uwu”
@@MoldycheeseJr why not?
this guy cheats
why didn't you fill your back row with artillery????
It would have added over a thousand ducats (maybe 2k) in losses (hiring + over fl costs) to lose the war maybe *slightly* less.
The goal was to achieve peace with minimal costs and losses, including money and manpower spent fighting. It's a war not worth fighting, so the best outcome was a balance between manpower/money losses and land losses.