Another thing the Surface Pro (or any touch screen Windows machine) can do: use it as a wireless, touch screen monitor for your Windows 10 desktop. Don't know why I never see this mentioned. Windows 10 has a built in feature for using another computer as a wireless display. It works flawlessly, without lag, over wi-fi. I use it all the time for photo editing, video editing, and animation. I can't even list all the benefits, but here are a few more of my favorites: 1) Accessing dozens of terabytes of local media storage and massive processing power from a relatively small touch screen on my couch 2) Using a stylus for image editing on my desktop PC in conjuction with other 4k monitors 3) Utilizing two completely separate processors from the same screen. I can finishing setting up a queue for some advanced rendering then switch over to TH-cam without worrying about my web browser hogging all the RAM. The possibilities are endless.
There are apps on the iOS App Store that offer a *comparable* functionality to sharing a Windows 10 desktop to a Surface Pro as described by you; you would just have to look for them. Note: I have used a Surface Pro, but I've never used the screen sharing option (because it was a school's computer).
@@gapinzonr It depends on what you use it for. If you use an iPad for graphic design and artwork, it's a viable alternative to drawing tablets because it provides on-par hardware functionality and *then some.* Notice how I said hardware functionality. Dev support for that type of application is scarce, which makes it not perform as well as it typically could. Another standpoint is from a music production perspective. Even though the iPad is not the best performing option out there for music, developers support it extensively because that's where a large portion of music producers are. USB-C is theoretically a viable option for audio because it provides a consistent quality without having to spend thousands, especially with its bandwidth upgrade. I have not personally used it (my first computer build with a USB-C port will have just one), but I am optimistic about the future it could bring for audio. If you use an iPhone, it could be useful for photography, although the debate is up in the air because many competitors have caught up with Apple. As for your point on how expensive they are, you're right. They are really expensive, but *some* devices live up to their price. Also, cheaper companies tend to adopt industry trends after they see it being successful in Apple's hands, so it could be described as an "early adopter's" company. Of course, there is much more to dive into, and Windows offers things that Apple doesn't.
It can replace the laptop, but it depends on how much you can suffer through the compromises, eg file management, text selection, USB C limits, multi-tasking...
it can replace your laptop if you know nothing about true computer capabilities and love the "hype money rape game" that apple brings. relatable to a young girl in a small town who wants to run away with a music band but doesn't know shes just a roadie to the band. Apple doesn't really care because it knows you're already hooked like a fish on a real, on pure hype. willing to throw your money at them, and all you get is a good looking worm on a hook.
Teoh Yi Chie There is never a one-size-fits all approach to computers and whether it’s price, size/weight, ease of use, power user features, security, etc. no one computer/tablet/smartphone will meet everyone’s needs or even every pro’s needs. For some iPad Pro as a laptop replacement users, they simply “live” with the compromises, other “suffer”, and others simply don’t notice them at. If your needs are somewhat more limited in the areas where the iPad Pro suffers such as file management, USB connectivity, multi-tasking, then you may be able to “live” with the compromise, if you notice them, whereas other power user’s might will “suffer” through them frequently wishing they could so X, Y, or Z on their iPad Pro but contouring to stick with the it due to other benefits that in their mind outweighs the limitations. For many pro’s, also having a laptop to switch to when these limitations get in the way of productivity is the solution and it’s what I do. You don’t have to simply put up with just computing device for everything (i.e. a Swiss Army knife of computing devices, so to speak), provided you can afford to own more then one. Use an iPad Pro for tasks that it works for you wish and a laptop for other tasks better suited to it, for you. When traveling for business some IPad Pro pro users decide if they will be doing anything on that trip that can’t be done on a iPad Pro alone, and if not then go with a larger/heavier laptop or both.
@@corbinlenning3505 true but the points he presented are spot on and has made me reconsider upgrading my OG iPad pro. I originally bought it to do prototype designs and finish them on my Mac but I have found it to be too cumbersome to move my work from iPad to Mac. I ended up using the Mac for work most of the time while the iPad is propped up on the side playing Spotify, Netflix, or TH-cam.
@@elclark_id nah man. I have a 50in. 1080p android tv and a 5.1 home theatre system from 2015 and 2009 respectively. Now THAT is a Netflix machine. (Note that the TV cost $820 dollars brand new back then, much cheaper than the iPad is now.)
5:40 This was one of many last straws for me. My mom has a very severe visual impairment and uses a first-gen iPad Pro because it's a relatively large display that she can get up close to and zoom into stuff very easily. I've set her up with a bluetooth keyboard, but I couldn't get a mouse working for anything. I do some digging, and I find out that Apple simply doesn't allow you to use a mouse on iOS. I bind the mouse to my android phone and it works perfectly. Not iOS. No technical reason, no logical reason, just Apple saying, "No." Jeez.
WHY DONT YOU GET YOUR MOM A FUCKING MACBOOK (IT HAS MAGNIFICATION TOO, SO YOUR MOM CAN SEE BETTER) QUIT YOUR BULLSHIT AS YOU CANT GET A MOUSE WORKING FOR HER! DID YOUR FUCKING RESEARCH FIRST BEFORE BUYING AN EXPENSIVE DEVICE OK? YOU DONT RESEARCH AFTER YOU BOUGHT THE THING. IT IS LIKE YOU EAT A LOT OF FAST FOOD AND WONDER WHY YOU ARE FAT, DO YOUR RESEARCH FIRST OK? STUPID COMPLAIN. YOU HURT YOUR BUDGET AND YOUR MOM A LOT. OR YOU ARE MAKING STUFF UP TO SATISFY YOUR ANDROID FANBOY BULLSHIT.
This is the best iPad review ever in the history of mankind. As a regular iPad Pro user, I share nearly all these opinions. I’m not a PC master race type (long time apple user), but this is still an objectively excellent review. Nice work.
Lots of solid points, but I definitely agree that tablets do have their place. For instance, are there any professional pilots that don't use a tablet for charts? And I've had several professors that used an ipad connected to a projector to replace a whiteboard, it worked really well (insert charts/graphics/etc) and the notes were available online afterwards.
Same here, been living in the apple ecosystem since first iPhone. Used iMac and macbook for the last 10 years. With that being said, i'm considering witching to Huawei phone. The quality just isn't there anymore. What do you think?
@@chrisduda Definitely. Aside from the Apple hatred, there are fewer and fewer reasons to go Apple. Their hardware is overpriced and easily matched in all categories, the exclusivity of MacOS is now null, and iOS simply isn't worth it. O would go Android and Windows if I were you, but that's easier said than done. There are plenty of guides to make your own Mac, if you really want to stay in the ecosystem.
@@chrisduda I've also considered it but you just can't beat Apples reliability and to me reliability is the most important. I had soo many problems with windows and Android phones, but never had a problem with my iPhone or Macbook pro since i switched in 2011.
@@Cisco925 I guess you never watched rossman repair's youtube if you think apple products are reliable. It just works has never been more then marketing wank. Might I suggest a thinkpad instead?
"The Surface line - it's more like 2-in-ones. Laptops that _can_ be used as tablets; as for this, this is a tablet that _can_ be used as a laptop." "As of now, the iPad Pro can replace your computer. But it shouldn't." Both brilliant lines right there, and I think they summarize the iPad pretty well. Overall great video, and coming from an Apple fanboy, I couldn't agree more with pretty much every line.
@@sethmoyer can you please spell the word you're thinking about? I'm Italian and I can't really understand the word segue unless if it's used as a verb but that's another story
@@AlexDicy Used in place of transition. "The Samsung announcer segued from talking about TV's to phones by first talking about differences in display technology"
@@bennicholson7782 alright thanks! So I was wrong, it comes from the Italian verb "segue": segue (n.) 1740, an instruction in musical scores, from Italian segue, literally "now follows,"
That’s true, software wise at least. I have a feeling that Linus will move the goal-posts again. It may go something like this: “Apple DID listen to some of the complaints we brought up....but...” and then go into a big diatribe. But hey, that’s why we like Linus, he doesn’t (as far as I’ve seen) cut anyone any slack.
Let's also not forget about the Bending issue, no I'm not talking about JerryRigEverything's durability test (though you might wanna be careful with leaving this tablet on your couch in case someone accidentally sits on it) but the fact that some users are experiencing iPad Pro being bent OUT OF THE BOX. Apple acknowledged the "issue" but doesn't consider it as a defect as it doesn't impact the product performance, so chances are you will get a bent or will bend your fancy iPad Pro because of horrible structural support and Apple won't consider its lack of engineering as their fault since all performance metrics are still the same even if you've got a 3200R curve on your iPad. Cool right?
I wonder if this bending will cause motherboard flexing like it does on the iPhones that will eventually lead to some component popping off the motherboard and having to be replaced with no means of recovering your data.
@@ShroudedWolf51 It is extremely likely that such thing may happen. Thank the T2 chip for not allowing resolddering of the component. You'll need to take it to Apple to fix it, that is assuming all you broke is solder joints, not the component itself.
@@ShroudedWolf51 Yes. Yes, it will. Modern electronics are manufactured to such low tolerances that bending and flexing is pretty much a guaranteed death sentence. And then there's the "I just fucking paid $1400 for a bent tablet" factor. This alone would be enough for me to return it.
But if you bring an apple product into the store with the slightest bend they will refuse to replace the screen under apple care and say it is impossible.
It's the tiny phone icons in 4 columns with massive gaps between them on the screen, just scaled up from an iPhone that just baffles me. iOS on an iPad should be designed for the bigger screen and if it is trying to be a laptop replacement the desktop screen should be configurable, but then this is unoriginal Apple who just want to make people believe they are doing it right and control everything.
Really Android is so much better of desktop OS od even tablet OS, you can use external displays freely, use any external memory, you have full fledged file manager, support for mouse, more options of multitasking, picture in picture and you can set up any launcher which can make much more use out that screen space
this is pretty much only good for artists imo. i'd still get the 380$ 2018 one unless i'm a pro artist. or use a screenless tablet. for anyone but graphic designers etc it's just a simple browser and netflix machine
For people who want to doodle nicely, sure. Professionals are people who earn a living at it, and none of them would use this to do that. Keyboard shortcuts ftw.
No headphone jack in tablets is probably the single stupidest trend in tech in a long time. Also, I love how they advertise this thing for music production, when actual producers would most likely have wired audiophile headphones with a standard audio jack...that they omitted. In fact, if you open up garageband (the music production app bundled with iOS), it literally tells you that if you have Bluetooth headphones on, it will add latency, making the exact thing the guy was doing in the ad unviable LMAO what a joke
Kind of a dumb omission and I like Apple but this was a mistake. Though the issue is that Apple removed the headphone jack and they are stubborn to keep it that way.
It's complete wase of time. Also my comment is a waste of time because people will buy it. I will never understand the need for toutch electronics. I'll keep my "real" computer and monitors goodness. I must say this video is really well made!
I couldn't imagine trying to edit with iOS. If they're serious about replacing laptops they need a proper file management system, or just have it run macOS
It's a lie though. It's only faster on synthetic benchmarks, which don't represent real world use. It can achieve faster speeds than laptop CPUs, but only in short bursts (enough for a benchmark). Under a sustained workload inside that fanless slim body, it will overheat and throttle very quickly, and get slaughtered by a real laptop. Under the same workload, that Intel CPU has better cooling and can sustain its speed. I would very much like to see Unigine and PCMark, The Witcher 3, AC Odyssey etc on iOS for equivalent benchmarking purposes.
@@lostn65 exactly. On the surface my 8th gen mobile chip seems to be destroyed in geekbench. But there's a reason no one does video editing on a ipad Pro - it's horrifically slow
@@lostn65 agreed. those smooth polished bodies don't do too much good for cooling. at least the surface pro series has ventilation. can't imagine a pc without a fan
@@@FantasyUnited04 It's not horrifically slow though. Check out Jonathan Morrison's editing on an iPad Pro video. It outpaces most laptops. The A12X is an amazing feat of engineering. The OS limits its capabilities.
Is naming the shape supposed to make it seem less valuable? Your phone is a rectangle and so is your laptop. Your eyeballs are spherical. What's your point?
I did this... But only because I was traveling a lot and had to write mid travel. Other than that, there's no chance in hell I would go back to that kind of torture. Laptop/desktop all the way!
WuschelofDespair - do you know how pain in the ass to use latex even on laptop? Last time I had to do math proof on latex for Discrete math, I sure missed Google docs and Ms word.
Qk9CWU5ib3x nah I don’t for stuff like a bachelor thesis I find it very pleasing. It does the layouting by itself and with bibtex references are a blessing especially since for every scientific paper you usually get the bibtex snippet very easily online. I wouldn’t ever use word for my master thesis, THAT would be a pain in the ass in the long run for me. I think there is a place for both, but for a thesis it’s latex all the way in my opinion. But word, google docs and pages are available on the iPad anyways.
@@ivisyung3088 I don't think you got the joke... He's not talking about the keyboard and tablet that can fold, he's talking about the tablet itself. If you trully want to understand, search "Jerryrigeverything ipad pro" and look at that magnificent bend test.
There are so many features missing. If I want a tablet laptop hybrid, I'd still get a Surface. No external storage on a laptop replacement and no file manager. This is not pro, but bs. IOS misses so many features, it's just not worth the HUGE price tag
You my friend are a wise human being ! I just don't understand how some apple fans are blind to this simple logic. It's like apple is their religion and people shouldn't question it.
@@brando12343 Why? I am using a Surface Pro 3 for Years and more than happy with it. It's better than an iPad in all conceivable productive tasks. And for entertainment both devices are inferior to a desktop.
@@brando12343 IMO, the only advantage of the iPad is the touchscreen games. On Surface, you can only really get desktop games. Other things, the iPad just offers too little for the price.
Lance Lindle Lee one word desktop, it’s a desktop os on a tablet, i had nothing but problems when i had a windows tablet just because of the way the os interfaces with the touchscreen, not to mention that it’s got underpowered hardware compared to a laptop and hardly any tablet oriented apps available. windows 8 was actually better on tablets then windows 10 is, if still choose an ipad over a surface any day just because of how frustrating windows tablets are
A professional device that you can't plug a USB into?? Ok then. My work place has decided to go mobile and get iPads which is actually quite handy at times, but there needs to be dozens of new apps created for the simplest of day to day task, all of which offer less capability than the full version are more difficult to use due to on screen key board, is hard to have multiple windows open and switch between them, is very hard to print from and as the average age of the workers is 55 years old has been a big learning curve for a lot of people. When they could've just bought Surface tablets and literally everything would've worked the same, need no training and no stupid apps developed for. But Apple is all professional and the way forward and stuff.
That sounds just like some manager or exec who doesn't understand technology and makes a decision anyways. I feel for you. We use HP Elitebook laptops for anyone who travels. I use one and they are pretty nice.
@@heyitsbacon599 Oh, they give people HP Elite books too, but decide that any tablets would be iPads. An iPad makes sense for some uses, but not when every single programme needs to be remade to suit IOS when a Windows tablet is readily available.
My sister got an iPad Pro and is an artist. She uses is it for fashion design and she really likes it. When she got it, she actually said that I was "outdated" for REFUSING to adapt to the knew and accept that this was a laptop replacement. But, she's an artist and I happen to be the tech guy. Personally I cannot see a world where the current iPad could replace ur laptop. The problem is Apple refuses to let it. Instead of improving iOS to make it more like a computer, hence probing their claim, they're removing essential PC features and COMPLETELY handicapping this device for literally ANYONE THAT DOES MORE THAN ART AND CONTENT CONSUMPTION! The only reason I recommended the iPad Pro to her was because, like u said, no other company has matched it's Pencil and she wanted Art. Basically, for people other than artist and content consumers, this will never replace a laptop unless Apply seriously decides to change their attitude from "Let's not displace the Macbook" to "Let's give consumers their money's worth and the best experience "
I’ve got the last gen iPad Pro and I agree with many of your statements. It’s certainly not a laptop replacement for most people. I still need my laptop for programming and 3D modeling, but I also have many uses for my iPad Pro. I prefer watching TH-cam on my iPad since it’s way more portable than a laptop and has a decently sized screen. I also use the Apple Pencil a lot to take notes or draw. Additionally, I’m able to use my iPad in conjunction with my laptop to do 3D sculpting that utilizes the pressure sensitivity of the Apple Pencil. It’s a wonderful device to have in addition to a laptop, but not as a replacement. For me, I really need both. A Laptop can’t replace my iPad, and an iPad can’t replace my laptop. It’d be nice to one day see a happy medium between the two, but that day isn’t today.
Rui Fung Yip If you’re wondering if a surface could replace my laptop? Then no. It’s not powerful enough, and the pen isn’t as good as the Apple Pencil. For me, the Laptop-iPad Pro combo is perfect.
The main thing is the iPad pro doesn’t make a ton of sense to me, everything it does can be done basically just as well by the 300 dollar iPad. Sure the iPad pro will do things a tiny bit faster and it will be able to do some things the 300 dollar iPad cannot do, but it shouldn’t matter as long as you’ve got a primary pc to do them anyway. I couldn’t live without my iPad, but I’m more than happy with my 300 dollar version, in the end I don’t think paying so much for what is still a tablet justifiable. If you can afford it it is obviously better still, but I believe it’s not necessary for 80% of the people who do buy it. If, as you said, it actually was a happy medium between the two, I think it would be absolutely worth it, but right now it’s not.
I've used an older iPad as a daily driver for a while. It was a great computer but it doesn't replace a full Mac OS desktop experience. I wouldn't do it again unless I absolutely had to have a super light traveling computer.
Apple acknowledged the issue, but said it was "normal"...... www.theverge.com/2018/12/19/18148957/apple-ipad-bend-pro-2018-shipping-manufacturing-confirmed
Robin Rai the first thing a lot of people don’t like windows operating system. Second of all if they have an iPhone u have a better ecosystem. Also surface laptops also are piece of junk due to them slowing down over a year or so. Your better off buying a more expensive pc laptop then getting surface laptop.
@@corbinlenning3505 Have you ever owned a surface? I'm still using Surface Pro 2 and been using it as my main device for 5 years and it's not slowing down, in fact became faster with every update. Never had to repair it. It's Apple who are purposely DOWNCLOCKING their devices so that the battery would last longer. On top of that with an apple device you can accidentally sit on it and it bends, and apple of course will deny the repair. And even if they do repair something your data will be wiped completely, even if you have your lifes work there.
I do own an iPad Pro 11 inch. I did not consider a Surface Pro, I did not consider to buy a laptop. I bought mine because I wanted it. I am writer, musician and student. My work consists out of writing songs, taking notes in university and sometimes create instrumentals for my music. I am planning on filming and video editing in the future as well. Consider this: The iPad Pro is the optimal machine for someone who wants to get started using „professional“ programs for photo- and video-editing or something similar. Most apps in that field are cheeper than there desktop counterparts and offer a similar experience i.e. LumaFusion being comparable to Final Cut, but being way cheeper than the entry version of FC. If you want to get started, the iPad Pro offers an inexpensive alternative into the world of creative work on a computer and it is cheeper and faster than a surface, if you account for the programs needed to work on it in those spaces. When I say it is inexpensive, I do mean that most work-stations are very expensive and the iPad rivals a 15 inch iPad Pro in performance while being way cheaper, if you are ok with having less storage. Plus there are ways to connect a hard drive to the iPad over Wifi until iOS supports hard drives natively. Also, the iPad is god‘s gift from heaven for students. I can work on my presentations, create papers, but also work and highlight PDFs right on the iPad. If I make a mistake I just delete the last action and change the color of the marker instead of having to print out the PDF again and again. I own an old MacBook Pro 13 inch form 2013 and if I HAVE to do something with a drive I can still opt out to that, but I honestly never had to do that since owning my iPad. I love the iPad Pro and it was probably the best choice for me, but I do get where you are coming from Linus.
"You know what, Apple?" *middle finger* "Three" Lmao! Exactly how I feel about that, switched to USB C but left out what would make it really useful, working with this power right off an external drive.
@@KenjiUmino Nah. They don't have to allow executables off external drives. Just content files for apps to interact with. The biggest reason to exclude it right now seems to be to sell ludicrously priced NAND.
You actually can use external drives. Apple hasn’t provided a fully functional file system so you basically have to download an app to act as the file system. However it works. Pretty sure the file system is one of the iOS changes that got pushed back to iOS 13.
@@lauw512 tell me more: windows kills the joy of produce, work music and music notation for me with constant crashes, incompatibilities and stuff. That DAW experience. Pfff
I have a co-worker who builds next gen services that run in the cloud... On his Microsoft Surface. I know for a fact the iPad cannot do what he was doing. As in, I know of some low level software incompatibilities that prevent iOS from being used for this. He's very happy using his surface for the task.
I've had classmates in college who tried using iPads for laptop replacements and my heart ached for their poor souls. The unnecessary struggle of navigating MyMathLabs and MS office is not worth it
Like trying to remote control a Windows app via remote desktop on a tablet.... You can, but don't expect to get much work done. Some things just require a keyboard for ease of use.
Really? I see plenty of people at Uni who use iPad Pros as their only portable drivers (my younger brother being one of them, M.Sc. Mathematics). Especially the fantastic searchable handwriting you get from some apps makes it a much better pen & paper replacement for classes that feature lots of mathematical formulas or require drawing of graphs.
Yep. My school rented out iPads and it took 2 weeks for those students to realize they were good for nothing but playing with the camera. The Office apps were garbage with no real keyboard/mouse. It was easier for them to get it done at school or find a buddy with a real laptop.
When I got my first iPad in 2010 it was my only computer ... I’ve always viewed the iPad as a full computer replacement and it has always worked great for me.
I used a 9.7 inch iPad Pro for a full year of college with a Logitech Create keyboard and was able to get a lot of work done on it, Apple's basic keyboard doesn't have back lighting, shortcuts (the logitech keyboard had shortcuts for things like a home button, brightness, volume, etc., it made it very functional), or good key travel so it makes it a lot more difficult to actually use for serious work. It's holding it back.
@@corbinlenning3505 Apple introduced the file manager on iOS 11. I'm talking about the file manager buddy and im an iPhone user in case you got confused.
as a student its ok. I have a PC at home but use the ipad to take notes and online textbooks because it's hard using my phone. When I need a PC, I just wait till I get home and use my desktop. Could have bought a laptop but I didn't need one most of the time plus I hated writing notes on paper. Its bulky and I like the way I can resize, move, completely erase stuff, and sync my notes to my phone
@9pm Till1Come I have both and I absolutely hate the surface. Granted mine is the Pro 4 so it may have improved since then but the surface pro 4 I have with the i7 and 16gb of ram throttles to the point of being almost unusable for being so slow. Maybe I got a bad apple I don't know. All I know is I love my Ipad pro and I hate my surface. I would take my Ipad Pro anyday over the surface. I use it daily as a student to take notes. The file system is not an issue for me. I can do everything without needing access to it.
*I'm not going to buy an iPad until it runs a better software that can take advantage of all that power and that big screen.* *To me the iPad is just a big iPhone.*
Desktop operating systems, infinite adjustable screen angles, "lap top" usage, mechanical back-lit keyboards... If only we had some kind of device with this technology.
I never considered iPads as a laptop replacement, and so, I use them for media entertainment, light gaming, and most importantly, reading documents for my college studies, fit my needs perfectly 😁👍
@@00O3O1B Exactly, and that's why I got the iPad 2018 32gb, the best tablet I found at its price range. And before you call me iSheep, I prefer Android when it comes to phones 😁
@@00O3O1B sure you do, what if you want the nicest PDF reading experience? This is the best screen there is on any device. 120hz feels so nice when you zoom scroll or highlight and scribble on the pdf. there is awesome apps for it too. And also tell me please which device has as nice a screen? also the ipad is 799 not 1500, its only that if you upgrade the storage. people are so surprised that people want something nice. what the hell.
My LTE iPad + google voice replaced my phone. A researcher by day and programmer by night, I used last year's model for more than a year now, which gradually became essential, it is now my scratch paper, notebook, and terminal. It's also a good device to read articles, watch TH-cam, listen to music and audiobooks. Everything I need to do electronically can now be done with my old iPad with same or even better efficiency. Nevertheless, I found myself more at home with a laptop or desktop. Old habits die hard, I am not selling my MacBook.
It wasn't long ago that you were REQUIRED to have a computer before you used an ipod touch or iPad for the first time. And you're still dependant on one if your firmware gets screwed up. To call something a computer I'd say it needs to be able to boot from external storage, or at the very least a verified restore partition if you want to still control what OS is loaded. Every feature they "perfect" even the obligatory anodized aluminum that's only filleted on one axis, is to increase profit. Dongles. Batteries. Shitty VRMs. T2 chips. Even USB C. Even though it's been useful for a few years now, it just became cheap enough to be worth their time to implement.
B-b-but... THIS GUY COMPOSED MUSIC ON IT! You guys just don't get it. You're not pro enough. Real pros just do, and those who don't do don't know! Man, I still get a kick with how ridiculously defensive a certain techtuber got over this thing.
Andrés Cifuentes yah. But some people lack logic. They ignore Lumafusion which is basically final cut. Or affinity photo and designer. Or beatmaker 3 and Auria studio or DJay pro revit autodesk. Need I go on, logic seems to be difficult
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i used three generation of ipad and with every new ipad i feel there are only 3 new things. 1) faster processor, 2) screen resolution and fps, 3) smaller bezels my point is that in the end it is still an ipad nothing more nothing less.
jubuttib I don’t hold the iPad when I use it, I use the cover to make it stand and smaller bezels is pleasing when you watch something. But I agree that a tablet must have bezels.
I do professional visual effects and editing work, graphic and UI design, software engineering, and produce music as a hobby occasionally. I have had iPad Pro 9.7" and 10" and the only pro-area it's good at is design and photography. For the rest there's just no software, be that apps or system-level support for something. - You can't run Node.js/Python/Anything to develop - You can sort of edit with Luma Fusion (it's like, reeeeally good for a tablet app) but you can't create motion graphics - Garage Band is a good sketch book, but it lacks any mixing capabilities beyond volume and basic 3 band EQ. There's an Auria app which even has fucking FabFilter plugins, but it's still not a proper full DAW On the graphics side however: - ProtoSketch is an awesome vector graphics app similar to Sketch/Figma on desktop - ProCreate smokes everything else in drawing field - Affinity Photo replaces 99% of Photoshop functionality for most people. With the epic display and the Pencil, you can do graphics and photo editing on iPad pro and feel really good
On the graphics side of things its still a secondary device tho. Fun way to work and doodle on the go. Also i agree with that Photoshop artist Linus mentioned. You really need a few buttons for shortcuts on the device. Speeds things up so much.
@@fierox88 It really depends on the kind of work you do. I designed a project in ProtoSketch that's now implemented and running in production and I know quite a few artists who work full time in ProCreate 🤷🏻♂️
Procreate is certainly good. Extremely so. But hard to beat a desktop software because it’s simply lacking too many essential features and lacking the extensive features of desktop art programs. The hardware is really good tho so most of the time it makes up for it. I wouldn’t do anything extensive and complicated on it though; it’s just not as efficient as a computer without the shortcuts and all the other stuff.
@@beanoming it's supposed to be portable, you can't bring your pc around. Either way $1500 for an IOS device doesn't make that much sense when any cheap laptop with a decent keyboard is good enough for coding and stuff.
@@BeLikeNexus except as you've clearly watched in the video that's not really true is it? i mean it good but definitely not amazing and cant replace a powerful computer for most of the pros
@@MGlBlaze I sat on my surface pro once and bent it. It didn't snap in half, but the screen was obliterated and I had to replace it. Yeah, you won't be able to recover the data of the Ipad, but it really isn't a problem compared to everything else on the market. How much important data do you have on the ipad that isn't backed up anyway? Remember that the surface pro is the device that jerry rigged everything praised for its durability. Tablets bend, this is nothing new. It's unacceptable that it comes like that out of the box though.
1. the ipad starts at 759(not really an additional price) 2. NOBODY EVER SAID YOU CANT DO ANITHING ON THE IPAD you just have to use it differently than a computer (apples slogan for it... look it up) 3. professionals like me already use the ipad as a computer
@@LoneBeastYT but what he said is that the ipad is an incomplete car, while getting one is more like switching from a truck to a tesla, EVERYTHING WORKS, BUT THINGS LIKE TURNING ON THE AC ISN'T AS SIMPLE
Honestly, Apple shouldn't advertise the iPad Pro as a laptop replacement. Most professionals today would always prefer a standard laptop with a keyboard and trackpad. The only demographic the iPad Pro can appeal to are people who need it specifically for drawing. That will eventually change in the future as the younger generation gets older and become professionals, and they will go for an iPad for work because that's their main computer growing up. For now though, Apple should be advertising it as a laptop alternative, not replacement. It's a small change in wording but makes a significant difference in rhetoric to where it's accurate. Laptops will always have their strengths. They can do more precise tasks, use expandable storage, type a 10 page essay, and so on. However, the iPad can do most of those tasks, just in a different way; it's a matter of whether you are willing to adjust to it. If you do decide to adjust to it, you get more features with an iPad like scanning documents, writing notes, drawing directly on the screen, seeing augmented reality, and much more. In addition, you get a better experience of web browsing, watching videos and playing games, which is what most people do on their computers anyway. Overall, the 2018 iPad Pro is, by far, the best tablet ever created which wasn't really a question to begin with. Android tablets pretty much fall flat. The Google Pixel Slate is a joke. Microsoft's Surface Pro is more of a laptop because it relies more on mouse than touch, and it falls short on being a good tablet. However, if you are willing to commit to it, the iPad Pro can be a somewhat good laptop alternative as well, and that's enough to make it a good purchase.
Or you could just get a Yoga and have an awesome tablet experience + full Windows 10. When you account for iPad's keyboard, even it's weight isn't that much less, at slightly over 1 kg, where Yoga series stands at 1.1 - 1.4 kg, depending on the model.
@@wojciechmuras553 Windows 10 on a tablet is not as good as iOS on an iPad, and I know that because I've used Windows "tablets" before. Every time I try to use Windows in tablet mode, I always go back to laptop mode because of how unoptimized it is.
@@wojciechmuras553 I could use the extremely unoptimized and slow UI with a stylist that barely rivals Huion for digital art or the apple pencil with tilt support and apps like Clip studio paint EX and procreate.
Lol yes maybe to 10 year olds who look at memes, when you spend your days in boardrooms doing “grown up stuff” you yourself might be shopping for Apple products.
@@theharbingerofconflation that because Apple's success is based purely from a marketing stand point... They've brainwashed society into assuming that apple products are always the "best"
@Erwin Puijnen It may not be a 'real' issue, but it makes sense, from an engineering perspective, to move the hole in your support structure away from the place that carries the highest load ;).
I overwhelmingly agree that something like this needs full OS X with a "tablet mode". I've been saying this since the original iPad launched. The future is something like an iMac that you can take off the stand and it goes into tablet mode for portable touch use like light browsing and productivity, then you put it back and can use a mouse and keyboard with full Mac OS. Strangely Microsoft has beaten Apple to the punch on this and continues to do so.
apple knows they can continue to milk this, because as long as their user base just keeps buying their product it does not matter what they do with it, because for most people the features of the product cover their needs, I hate how many things apple omits, or does for seemingly no reason, but despite all of their issues the fact that they can profit off of omitting all of these things just demonstrates that they can dominate within the market they have created for themselves. I still would never touch an apple device though; my needs have been met by many other devices that the technologically inept would refuse to use. So, it's more about individual use cases above all.
@@georgeschlumberger9814 Apple iPad is just like a normal tablet, With a keyboard. Meant for kids or for artists. I mean if you want an iPad for studies most apps that you need don't exist on the iPad.
As someone who has had an iPad Pro 10.5 inch for 6 months now, I feel it's best for media consumption and drawing for a hobby. As someone who's only other experience drawing is a $50 Wacom tablet, being able to see what I draw as I draw and being able to see my hand too makes drawing much easier for me. Also, I take my iPad wherever I go, because it's smaller than a laptop and good for TH-cam, and if I feel the need to draw something, I can.
This has always been my thing - once you add an (inferior) keyboard to a tablet, you just have a worse laptop, at that point...Why not a laptop, at least for tasks that involve fine pointers (word processing, IDEs, etc). I'd be more excited for a clamshell Macbook running their in-house ARM processors than ever more powerful iPads.
Now I need 3 different headphones USB-C = For my iPad Lightning = For my iPhone Headphone Jack = For my MacBook EDIT: Thank You For 400 likes. I just wanted to say that this comment was a JOKE, I don’t use wired headphones, THIS COMMENT WAS A JOKE!!!
@@imaadh Bluetooth ads latency and audio degradation, which makes it useless for anyone trying to use high end monitors since the soundstage isn't natural anymore. A Bluetooth design that sounds as good as high end headphones from sennheiser and the like are not here yet, because Bluetooth comes with big limitations. Also i already own a pair of sennheiser hd800s headphones, headphones that are 1700 dollars msrp. Not only do they sound better than any Bluetooth device but they will sound better than any Bluetooth device for a long time. And there's no reason for the ipad to not have a headphone jack, especially since its a "professional" device.
Actually you just need two pairs of dongles (usb-c and lightning) to convert a standard pair of headphones, but yes it would be nice to still have a headphone jack on newer IOS devices, especially on the iPad Pro which should have the space inside to accommodate one.
It’s a niche product and not for those who actually need a laptop. This is a Laptop alternative not a replacement that is much more portable. If you want a laptop, get a laptop...
Just a pug on the internet. Yes, it’s true that a tablet, even a high end tablet like the iPad Pro, will not replicate all the features of a laptop unlike whereas the Surface, which doubles as both, can. But if what you do on your laptop can be done just as well on a tablet (especially a high-end tablet like the iPad Pro) then the missing feature are not an issue for you. Thus “replace” in this context means act as a substitute for a laptop by by providing the features of laptop that you use and need even if not all the features of a laptop. If it can replace a laptop in your particular use case not all use cases, then it’s a laptop replacement for you but not for everyone.
This is my input as an artist. I REALLY want to love the iPad Pros, and I do. Like Linus said the Apple Pencil feels near perfect to draw with, only the Wacom pens feel comparable. And there are a few robust apps for art. But it's not a computer. Even now. It's still just a companion device. The iPad pros feel sorta frustrating from an artist perspective, if you want it to be your only device. It feels SO fun to draw on, it's like a light e-sketchpad, you have the freedom to draw/position wherever you want rather than be anchored to your desk (like a real sketchbook), the battery life lasts an eternity compared to drawing on a laptop, when you turn it on you can begin drawing imedietly instead of waiting for a computer startup. You'll want to ditch your computer and just do work with this. But you can't. While good drawing apps do exist the vast majority are not for getting serious work done. Procreate is easily the best one as a photoshop replacement. Astropad requires a separate computer anyways If you want to make complicated artwork with dozens/hundreds of layers you'll miss your shortcuts. Getting artworks between different apps is way harder than it needs to be because you can't manipulate files the way you want to. Among many other things. The software holds this thing back WAY to much. It's a really *fun* device. But almost no matter what "pro" you consider yourself to be, it can't be your only device
Almost all of the shortcomings seem to now be addressed with the new iPad OS. The only thing that I didn't see (but maybe missed) was the secondary screen but apple envisions this differently with the Mac + iPad screen share update.
Something I think Linus missed at the end there is the existence of the regular ipad. If the pro can't replace a laptop, then why pay twice the price of a regular latest gen ipad? My girlfriend who's an art therapist tried the pro and the regular ipad and really found no reason to get the pro. The only real downside is that the first gen pencil doesn't have some of the conveniences the second gen one does have, but are you really willing to pay twice the price or more for some small conveniences? If you're an artist I think it's best to just get the standard ipad and keep using your real computer along side it.
Not all professions do their work primarily having to use computers or using computer software. And the iPad is perfect for that, to me its more like an e-notebook. I'm thinking of the medical field like doctors and nursed (the career I am studying into). Its sleek and simple design is really appealing and is a great companion to hold and use in a professional environment. To take notes from others and to easily show or get across ideas and information to others while it doesn't distract from a 1 on 1 conversation. using a phone makes it look like you are too uninterested and using a laptop can get too much in the way while the iPad is perfectly in the middle and is an acceptable conversation device. Also when you stand most of the time its very hard to use a laptop. I love iOS. Yes it's not as rich or in depth but for what I need it for I don't need it to be. The iPad is like an extension of my body. I don't have to think about it, it just works. A laptop/PC feels like a machine I'm having to control. I love my Windows Desktop but I think that the iPad has nailed being seamless. I think of it as Computers(PC/Laptops,Servers) They are the things doing the work, they need performance and the systems and software and that isn't what an iPad is for. As much as people may think, the iPad is not meant to replace a Laptop, but that doesn't make it irrelevant. It is for another purpose I think that if you are doing the work, hands on, like doctors, counsellors, even to architects and professors and need to compile and organise your thoughts with a simple and elegant device then get an iPad. Even then the performance is no slouch. I love to do videography as a hobby and editing on the iPad is amazing. If you haven't seen Johnathan Morrison's video on editing with the iPad then you need to. Plus I love a bit of art as well which with the pencil is an absolute dream. I'm who the iPad is for.
Incorrect. As an Apple user, you are not allowed opinions. The Apple staff have the exclusive rights to decide what your opinions are, as well as deciding on any accidentally created options on your behalf. I believe there is a section detailing these restrictions in their standard EULA.
Odin Asgard yeah on paper. It really comes down to what you use it for. If we’re talking video editing than a MacBook Pro is probably what you want but for artistic stuff and browsing, the iPad is perfect. Basically how you interact with it and for what, is the question. The answer comes down to the os pretty much.
Odin Asgard catalyst is for porting iPad apps to Mac. Not For the iPad Mac apps. The only thing that will come from catalyst is a very dumbed down experience on the Mac.
Odin Asgard no thanks. I’ll take your word for it. I still stand by my point though. I can see through their marketing. They’re working towards dumbing down the Mac so they can either: 1. Dumb down the Mac and make it functionally the same as the iPad so consumers will finally drink the kool aid that Apple’s been trying to sell (i.e., that there’s no reason to buy a laptop when the iPad can do the same thing.). Therefore giving them the green light to finally kill off the Mac. 2. Dumb down the Mac by taking away core functionality that it’s had for the past twenty years so they can slowly sell that functionality back by means of yearly incremental “hardware upgrades”. Or, 3: Some combination of both possibilities mentioned above. Not to give away my age but I’ve been watching Apple’s tactics for well over twenty years and I know their pattern. Trust me, nothing they do is in the interest of the consumer in the long run. It’s in the interest of Apple’s bottom line.
It's like a reverse surface pro. Great tablet, that you really don't want to use as a laptop. The surface pro is a great thin and light laptop that you really don't want to use as a tablet. It's great for note-taking and drawing though. Written on my SP4 :)
I watch yt / movies on my ipad in bed, when am on plane ect. Don't use any of the other apple products tho, but still I like it. But the 'pro' part of this is useless for me as I'd rather use my pc or laptop for anything productive.
That's basically what I use mine for. I use my iPad Mini 2 as a media consumption device for things such as TH-cam/Netflix, for reading things such as books and articles, and... well that's pretty much it. I don't see iOS as a great operating system for getting things done, and I have my other devices that are better suited for that to do those things.
I am no tablet expert (personally I find them to be useless) but couldnt you find another tablet for those very basic applications for like 10-30% of the price?
NaNexistent have to agree with rather doing productive stuff on a pc but iPads are great for taking to school or work easily and great for mobile gaming and mild video editing and multitasking etc.
The greatest thing about this is that Windows 10 can run on the A12x processor, but OSX can't. So Microsoft has the better OS for this machine than Apple does. In reality, the iPad pro is a replacement for paper, not a laptop. The writing experience is way better than my surface book, the screen is great, the camera is wonderful for scanning, and the notetaking and art apps are as good as you can find on Windows.
Windows 10 is trash. Mac OS is basically UNIX and if apple wasn’t against keeping it open source it probably would be 100% compatible with LINUX. Apple locks down in their kernel what hardware is utilized and how it’s utilized. It’s why you see way less crashes on Mac OS. It’s also part of the reason why their i9 processors aren’t going to be pushed as hard as an i9 on windows. Windows 10 sucks, agree with the dude below, Windows 7 should have been their baby.
@@corbinlenning3505 Windows 10 is fine, and it's miles better than iOS or Android, which is what it competes against in the reduced instruction set market.
As a professional graphic artist, if you had to have a tablet to draw on, I would go with the surface pro. Clip studio/adobe creative suite and a traditional file system is really the best way to go. Also if your a gamer it's nice to be able to use steam stream on a home network to a surface tablet from a gaming rig. Not gonna give up my iphone though
Whoever wrote this script... SO good.
Probably the Writers
3:39 brilliant that, yeah. Your bar isn’t high, is it?
It was amazing. Very grabbing. I loved it a lot.
Riley
Well the credits at the end say it was Riley
Another thing the Surface Pro (or any touch screen Windows machine) can do: use it as a wireless, touch screen monitor for your Windows 10 desktop.
Don't know why I never see this mentioned. Windows 10 has a built in feature for using another computer as a wireless display. It works flawlessly, without lag, over wi-fi. I use it all the time for photo editing, video editing, and animation.
I can't even list all the benefits, but here are a few more of my favorites:
1) Accessing dozens of terabytes of local media storage and massive processing power from a relatively small touch screen on my couch
2) Using a stylus for image editing on my desktop PC in conjuction with other 4k monitors
3) Utilizing two completely separate processors from the same screen. I can finishing setting up a queue for some advanced rendering then switch over to TH-cam without worrying about my web browser hogging all the RAM.
The possibilities are endless.
Really? How do you use it?
-Typed from my Surface Pro
For real? I have the surface pro for half a year now and this is the first time I've heard of this.
WHAT HAVE I BEEN DOING WITH MY LIFE?
There are apps on the iOS App Store that offer a *comparable* functionality to sharing a Windows 10 desktop to a Surface Pro as described by you; you would just have to look for them.
Note: I have used a Surface Pro, but I've never used the screen sharing option (because it was a school's computer).
@@flimsyfox but why use apple device if it offers less functionalities and is more expensive?
@@gapinzonr It depends on what you use it for. If you use an iPad for graphic design and artwork, it's a viable alternative to drawing tablets because it provides on-par hardware functionality and *then some.* Notice how I said hardware functionality. Dev support for that type of application is scarce, which makes it not perform as well as it typically could. Another standpoint is from a music production perspective. Even though the iPad is not the best performing option out there for music, developers support it extensively because that's where a large portion of music producers are. USB-C is theoretically a viable option for audio because it provides a consistent quality without having to spend thousands, especially with its bandwidth upgrade. I have not personally used it (my first computer build with a USB-C port will have just one), but I am optimistic about the future it could bring for audio.
If you use an iPhone, it could be useful for photography, although the debate is up in the air because many competitors have caught up with Apple.
As for your point on how expensive they are, you're right. They are really expensive, but *some* devices live up to their price. Also, cheaper companies tend to adopt industry trends after they see it being successful in Apple's hands, so it could be described as an "early adopter's" company.
Of course, there is much more to dive into, and Windows offers things that Apple doesn't.
It can replace the laptop, but it depends on how much you can suffer through the compromises, eg file management, text selection, USB C limits, multi-tasking...
Sorry you mean to say 'it bends on how much you.....' oh wait i see what you're saying.
You're one of my favorite youtubers man. Love your reviews.
it can replace your laptop if you know nothing about true computer capabilities and love the "hype money rape game" that apple brings. relatable to a young girl in a small town who wants to run away with a music band but doesn't know shes just a roadie to the band. Apple doesn't really care because it knows you're already hooked like a fish on a real, on pure hype. willing to throw your money at them, and all you get is a good looking worm on a hook.
Teoh Yi Chie There is never a one-size-fits all approach to computers and whether it’s price, size/weight, ease of use, power user features, security, etc. no one computer/tablet/smartphone will meet everyone’s needs or even every pro’s needs. For some iPad Pro as a laptop replacement users, they simply “live” with the compromises, other “suffer”, and others simply don’t notice them at. If your needs are somewhat more limited in the areas where the iPad Pro suffers such as file management, USB connectivity, multi-tasking, then you may be able to “live” with the compromise, if you notice them, whereas other power user’s might will “suffer” through them frequently wishing they could so X, Y, or Z on their iPad Pro but contouring to stick with the it due to other benefits that in their mind outweighs the limitations. For many pro’s, also having a laptop to switch to when these limitations get in the way of productivity is the solution and it’s what I do. You don’t have to simply put up with just computing device for everything (i.e. a Swiss Army knife of computing devices, so to speak), provided you can afford to own more then one. Use an iPad Pro for tasks that it works for you wish and a laptop for other tasks better suited to it, for you. When traveling for business some IPad Pro pro users decide if they will be doing anything on that trip that can’t be done on a iPad Pro alone, and if not then go with a larger/heavier laptop or both.
Nice to see another reviewer commenting about this device.
damn that ad transition was smooth as butter
But where is a broth, bro'?
The most honest and unbiased review I've seen in a long while. Refreshing and spot on the money. Surface Pro are awesome too
AngelSix this is not an unbiased review. He does not like Apple at all.
He's right in what he said I own an ipad pro 11 and I want those features to be implemented, more of a mac os experience is what professionals want
man, just wanted to point out that your videos are freaking amazing!!!
No review is unbiased. You just have the same biases.
@@corbinlenning3505 true but the points he presented are spot on and has made me reconsider upgrading my OG iPad pro. I originally bought it to do prototype designs and finish them on my Mac but I have found it to be too cumbersome to move my work from iPad to Mac. I ended up using the Mac for work most of the time while the iPad is propped up on the side playing Spotify, Netflix, or TH-cam.
*iPad Pro has joined the server*
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i get it thanks for the laugh homie
press f to disgust apple
@@emiru-kun6323 f
@@elclark_id nah man. I have a 50in. 1080p android tv and a 5.1 home theatre system from 2015 and 2009 respectively. Now THAT is a Netflix machine. (Note that the TV cost $820 dollars brand new back then, much cheaper than the iPad is now.)
How'd u manage to be top comment everytime
5:40 This was one of many last straws for me. My mom has a very severe visual impairment and uses a first-gen iPad Pro because it's a relatively large display that she can get up close to and zoom into stuff very easily. I've set her up with a bluetooth keyboard, but I couldn't get a mouse working for anything. I do some digging, and I find out that Apple simply doesn't allow you to use a mouse on iOS. I bind the mouse to my android phone and it works perfectly. Not iOS. No technical reason, no logical reason, just Apple saying, "No."
Jeez.
How can you have more than one “last straw?”
@@mikebackatyou He keeps buying more straws.
Mmm hmm. Welcome to apple. Which is why I would never buy apple.
WHY DONT YOU GET YOUR MOM A FUCKING MACBOOK (IT HAS MAGNIFICATION TOO, SO YOUR MOM CAN SEE BETTER)
QUIT YOUR BULLSHIT AS YOU CANT GET A MOUSE WORKING FOR HER! DID YOUR FUCKING RESEARCH FIRST BEFORE BUYING AN EXPENSIVE DEVICE OK? YOU DONT RESEARCH AFTER YOU BOUGHT THE THING. IT IS LIKE YOU EAT A LOT OF FAST FOOD AND WONDER WHY YOU ARE FAT, DO YOUR RESEARCH FIRST OK?
STUPID COMPLAIN. YOU HURT YOUR BUDGET AND YOUR MOM A LOT. OR YOU ARE MAKING STUFF UP TO SATISFY YOUR ANDROID FANBOY BULLSHIT.
@@namkhanhng1802 to be fair they said it can replace a laptop. and besides, ios is more user friendly to most people
It's good for PROfessional Netflix watching
Cringe
It’s quite awesome with iPad os
@Anand Raj there is multitasking on the ipad. You can split the screen in 2 and have another app just sorta floating on the screen
@Anand Raj that is true.
@Anand Raj Yes. Samsung Dex is a pretty sweet feature!
This is the best iPad review ever in the history of mankind. As a regular iPad Pro user, I share nearly all these opinions. I’m not a PC master race type (long time apple user), but this is still an objectively excellent review. Nice work.
Lots of solid points, but I definitely agree that tablets do have their place. For instance, are there any professional pilots that don't use a tablet for charts? And I've had several professors that used an ipad connected to a projector to replace a whiteboard, it worked really well (insert charts/graphics/etc) and the notes were available online afterwards.
Same here, been living in the apple ecosystem since first iPhone. Used iMac and macbook for the last 10 years. With that being said, i'm considering witching to Huawei phone. The quality just isn't there anymore. What do you think?
@@chrisduda Definitely. Aside from the Apple hatred, there are fewer and fewer reasons to go Apple. Their hardware is overpriced and easily matched in all categories, the exclusivity of MacOS is now null, and iOS simply isn't worth it. O would go Android and Windows if I were you, but that's easier said than done. There are plenty of guides to make your own Mac, if you really want to stay in the ecosystem.
@@chrisduda I've also considered it but you just can't beat Apples reliability and to me reliability is the most important. I had soo many problems with windows and Android phones, but never had a problem with my iPhone or Macbook pro since i switched in 2011.
@@Cisco925 I guess you never watched rossman repair's youtube if you think apple products are reliable. It just works has never been more then marketing wank. Might I suggest a thinkpad instead?
"The Surface line - it's more like 2-in-ones. Laptops that _can_ be used as tablets; as for this, this is a tablet that _can_ be used as a laptop."
"As of now, the iPad Pro can replace your computer. But it shouldn't."
Both brilliant lines right there, and I think they summarize the iPad pretty well. Overall great video, and coming from an Apple fanboy, I couldn't agree more with pretty much every line.
@Oliversfilmsdotcom Films that's why you've got a mouse...
Surface is a portable, touch, PC that can be used without a keyboard
Those sponsor segways getting real smooth.
I know it's pedantic, but if you're not talking about the gyroscopic scooter thingy it's actually spelled "segue." It comes from Italian or something.
@@sethmoyer can you please spell the word you're thinking about? I'm Italian and I can't really understand the word segue unless if it's used as a verb but that's another story
@@AlexDicy Used in place of transition. "The Samsung announcer segued from talking about TV's to phones by first talking about differences in display technology"
@@bennicholson7782 alright thanks! So I was wrong, it comes from the Italian verb "segue":
segue (n.)
1740, an instruction in musical scores, from Italian segue, literally "now follows,"
You say that like they have never been smooth...
yo seriously... WWDC2019 must have copied and paste Linus’s requests.
Still waiting on his iPados video
That’s true, software wise at least. I have a feeling that Linus will move the goal-posts again. It may go something like this: “Apple DID listen to some of the complaints we brought up....but...” and then go into a big diatribe. But hey, that’s why we like Linus, he doesn’t (as far as I’ve seen) cut anyone any slack.
RunFor OurLives i’m aware. The coincidence is just amazing.
Wwdc 19 copied and pasted Verge’s ipad pro review almost exactly
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Let's also not forget about the Bending issue, no I'm not talking about JerryRigEverything's durability test (though you might wanna be careful with leaving this tablet on your couch in case someone accidentally sits on it) but the fact that some users are experiencing iPad Pro being bent OUT OF THE BOX. Apple acknowledged the "issue" but doesn't consider it as a defect as it doesn't impact the product performance, so chances are you will get a bent or will bend your fancy iPad Pro because of horrible structural support and Apple won't consider its lack of engineering as their fault since all performance metrics are still the same even if you've got a 3200R curve on your iPad. Cool right?
I wonder if this bending will cause motherboard flexing like it does on the iPhones that will eventually lead to some component popping off the motherboard and having to be replaced with no means of recovering your data.
@@ShroudedWolf51 It is extremely likely that such thing may happen. Thank the T2 chip for not allowing resolddering of the component. You'll need to take it to Apple to fix it, that is assuming all you broke is solder joints, not the component itself.
@@ShroudedWolf51 Yes. Yes, it will. Modern electronics are manufactured to such low tolerances that bending and flexing is pretty much a guaranteed death sentence.
And then there's the "I just fucking paid $1400 for a bent tablet" factor. This alone would be enough for me to return it.
But if you bring an apple product into the store with the slightest bend they will refuse to replace the screen under apple care and say it is impossible.
It's the tiny phone icons in 4 columns with massive gaps between them on the screen, just scaled up from an iPhone that just baffles me. iOS on an iPad should be designed for the bigger screen and if it is trying to be a laptop replacement the desktop screen should be configurable, but then this is unoriginal Apple who just want to make people believe they are doing it right and control everything.
You can change the setting for icon spacing
I think that they should have an iPad pro only version of iOS or they should have it run macOS
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You can only make EVERYTHING larger. The bigger icons have therefore smaller spaces between them but it is still a 4 column grid.
Really Android is so much better of desktop OS od even tablet OS, you can use external displays freely, use any external memory, you have full fledged file manager, support for mouse, more options of multitasking, picture in picture and you can set up any launcher which can make much more use out that screen space
this is pretty much only good for artists imo. i'd still get the 380$ 2018 one unless i'm a pro artist. or use a screenless tablet. for anyone but graphic designers etc it's just a simple browser and netflix machine
It's useful for intense graphics in games.
But if you want a Netflix machine, get a Tab S.
Have you tried one?
pennylessz lmao what intense graphics? Forza? It would be useful if people could use the actual power the pro has, and iOS limits this.
Even for artists, there are much better value products out there.
For people who want to doodle nicely, sure. Professionals are people who earn a living at it, and none of them would use this to do that. Keyboard shortcuts ftw.
No headphone jack in tablets is probably the single stupidest trend in tech in a long time.
Also, I love how they advertise this thing for music production, when actual producers would most likely have wired audiophile headphones with a standard audio jack...that they omitted. In fact, if you open up garageband (the music production app bundled with iOS), it literally tells you that if you have Bluetooth headphones on, it will add latency, making the exact thing the guy was doing in the ad unviable LMAO what a joke
Kind of a dumb omission and I like Apple but this was a mistake. Though the issue is that Apple removed the headphone jack and they are stubborn to keep it that way.
It's complete wase of time. Also my comment is a waste of time because people will buy it. I will never understand the need for toutch electronics. I'll keep my "real" computer and monitors goodness. I must say this video is really well made!
@@matrixmodulator agreed
*cough* USB-C and Thunderbolt 3 *Cough*
@@flimsyfox **cough** there's no point in making it so thin **cough** if you have to carry a bunch of adapters with you anyways
The iPad Pro makes an excellent alarm clock. Best 1000 dollars I’ve ever spent
Nokia makes the best earrape alarm clock
I use my ol' Nintendo DS lite for that. :)
ENDIQOIRE you actually mean 1800 (unless you’re talking about the 10.5”)
lasarith2 Actually 1455.99
ENDIQOIRE 12.9” 2TB £1719+ £129(insurance) +£119 pen V2 = £1967 .
Give your editors a raise
Ku. Kumkum
I couldn't imagine trying to edit with iOS. If they're serious about replacing laptops they need a proper file management system, or just have it run macOS
Or have it like Samsung dex, but full macOS instead of “desktop” android
Now there is going to be ipadOS
matty9460 I can see why TH-cam doesn’t allow you to see who disliked the comment
@@Brian-jv8iy I prefer WhatsApp
This led to nothing from my part whatsoever so I'll just leave
3:37 -> Not 92% faster. Faster than 92%.
It's a lie though. It's only faster on synthetic benchmarks, which don't represent real world use.
It can achieve faster speeds than laptop CPUs, but only in short bursts (enough for a benchmark). Under a sustained workload inside that fanless slim body, it will overheat and throttle very quickly, and get slaughtered by a real laptop. Under the same workload, that Intel CPU has better cooling and can sustain its speed.
I would very much like to see Unigine and PCMark, The Witcher 3, AC Odyssey etc on iOS for equivalent benchmarking purposes.
Yet still more expensive than that 8%.
@@lostn65 exactly. On the surface my 8th gen mobile chip seems to be destroyed in geekbench. But there's a reason no one does video editing on a ipad Pro - it's horrifically slow
@@lostn65 agreed. those smooth polished bodies don't do too much good for cooling. at least the surface pro series has ventilation. can't imagine a pc without a fan
@@@FantasyUnited04 It's not horrifically slow though. Check out Jonathan Morrison's editing on an iPad Pro video. It outpaces most laptops. The A12X is an amazing feat of engineering. The OS limits its capabilities.
Replace your laptop with a $1100 rectangle!
Glass rectangle*
Hey, it's got a floppy leathery keyboard thing and a stylus that falls off. Wait, didn't I just watch this video, or was it Dave Lee?
Is naming the shape supposed to make it seem less valuable? Your phone is a rectangle and so is your laptop. Your eyeballs are spherical. What's your point?
@@winterboltgames best comment ever!
@@thomasalias8492 It's called a joke... Also now that you ruined the it anyway I might as well add, that a rectangle is a 2D shape...
$2000 to play Candy-Crush and check out Facebook updates? Perfect Christmas gift for mom!
2000? Where did you get that number?
Apple's homepage
rofl
its for professionals idiot
@@shanboss8296 actual professionals would buy a macbook or surface laptop
write a bachelor thesis on your tablet and I will consider it a viable replacement for a laptop
My friend's sister is writing her thesis on a tablet. Asus with windows 10 tho'
I did this... But only because I was traveling a lot and had to write mid travel. Other than that, there's no chance in hell I would go back to that kind of torture. Laptop/desktop all the way!
Dariune that should actually be easily possible. There are LaTeX apps out there that fully support all the libraries like Tikz and so on.
WuschelofDespair - do you know how pain in the ass to use latex even on laptop?
Last time I had to do math proof on latex for Discrete math, I sure missed Google docs and Ms word.
Qk9CWU5ib3x nah I don’t for stuff like a bachelor thesis I find it very pleasing. It does the layouting by itself and with bibtex references are a blessing especially since for every scientific paper you usually get the bibtex snippet very easily online.
I wouldn’t ever use word for my master thesis, THAT would be a pain in the ass in the long run for me.
I think there is a place for both, but for a thesis it’s latex all the way in my opinion.
But word, google docs and pages are available on the iPad anyways.
Apple is truly a pioneer, they released a foldable tablet before 2019!
www.google.com/amp/s/www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2018/12/19/18148957/apple-ipad-bend-pro-2018-shipping-manufacturing-confirmed
no they ripped off the idea fom laptops. Foldable tablet is just another word for 2 in 1 pc
@@ivisyung3088 I don't think you got the joke... He's not talking about the keyboard and tablet that can fold, he's talking about the tablet itself. If you trully want to understand, search "Jerryrigeverything ipad pro" and look at that magnificent bend test.
Yes, let them release more useless gimmicks instead of lowering the price to reasonable levels
I got the joke. have a neat day.
if i had to replace my current laptop with something worse it would be a toaster
Idk the razer toaster is pretty good
Attach a leather keyboard cover and magneto pen and you've got yourself a deal.
All this talk about Samsung making a bendable device when apple has one right here
Well, the IPad is a bendable Tablet too
Best video ever about iPad Pro. Coming back time after time, after all these years to watch again 🤣🤣
There are so many features missing. If I want a tablet laptop hybrid, I'd still get a Surface. No external storage on a laptop replacement and no file manager. This is not pro, but bs. IOS misses so many features, it's just not worth the HUGE price tag
You my friend are a wise human being ! I just don't understand how some apple fans are blind to this simple logic. It's like apple is their religion and people shouldn't question it.
Windows tablets are awful, I’d rather have a laptop and iPad instead of a windows tablet because they are so bad
@@brando12343
Why?
I am using a Surface Pro 3 for Years and more than happy with it.
It's better than an iPad in all conceivable productive tasks.
And for entertainment both devices are inferior to a desktop.
@@brando12343 IMO, the only advantage of the iPad is the touchscreen games. On Surface, you can only really get desktop games. Other things, the iPad just offers too little for the price.
Lance Lindle Lee one word desktop, it’s a desktop os on a tablet, i had nothing but problems when i had a windows tablet just because of the way the os interfaces with the touchscreen, not to mention that it’s got underpowered hardware compared to a laptop and hardly any tablet oriented apps available. windows 8 was actually better on tablets then windows 10 is, if still choose an ipad over a surface any day just because of how frustrating windows tablets are
Why would you want to replace it with something worse when you can replace it with a properly cleaned metal computer.
How to properly clean your metal computer I'm going to say the n word
@@tmaow me too
@@tmaow
That's racist, you can't say the n word!
How do I clean my metal computer
im saying the n word right now
A professional device that you can't plug a USB into??
Ok then.
My work place has decided to go mobile and get iPads which is actually quite handy at times, but there needs to be dozens of new apps created for the simplest of day to day task, all of which offer less capability than the full version are more difficult to use due to on screen key board, is hard to have multiple windows open and switch between them, is very hard to print from and as the average age of the workers is 55 years old has been a big learning curve for a lot of people.
When they could've just bought Surface tablets and literally everything would've worked the same, need no training and no stupid apps developed for.
But Apple is all professional and the way forward and stuff.
That sounds just like some manager or exec who doesn't understand technology and makes a decision anyways. I feel for you. We use HP Elitebook laptops for anyone who travels. I use one and they are pretty nice.
The software is seriously behind.
@@heyitsbacon599 Oh, they give people HP Elite books too, but decide that any tablets would be iPads.
An iPad makes sense for some uses, but not when every single programme needs to be remade to suit IOS when a Windows tablet is readily available.
*cough cough* MacBook
@@MegaGouch Oh....well that's a little better. Not much, but a little at least.
My sister got an iPad Pro and is an artist. She uses is it for fashion design and she really likes it. When she got it, she actually said that I was "outdated" for REFUSING to adapt to the knew and accept that this was a laptop replacement. But, she's an artist and I happen to be the tech guy. Personally I cannot see a world where the current iPad could replace ur laptop. The problem is Apple refuses to let it. Instead of improving iOS to make it more like a computer, hence probing their claim, they're removing essential PC features and COMPLETELY handicapping this device for literally ANYONE THAT DOES MORE THAN ART AND CONTENT CONSUMPTION! The only reason I recommended the iPad Pro to her was because, like u said, no other company has matched it's Pencil and she wanted Art. Basically, for people other than artist and content consumers, this will never replace a laptop unless Apply seriously decides to change their attitude from "Let's not displace the Macbook" to "Let's give consumers their money's worth and the best experience "
Apple addmited some IPads ship already bent but that's not defect 😅
Buy Apple!
All products come prepared to be fixed at an exorbitant rate
Lol, even the entire Apple subreddit is criticizing them for that
Apple made bent products since Tim Cook era lmao. Get it cuz he is bent
You are looking at it wrong.
girlsdrinkfeck oof
-Who -_-wouldn't-_- want to waste their hard-earned cash on a delicate flimsy tablet-
"Think Different"
@xGisbitus Ipad pro comes pre-bent tho, so you won't have to waste time bending it!
@@Fastwinstondoom lol
I’ve got the last gen iPad Pro and I agree with many of your statements. It’s certainly not a laptop replacement for most people. I still need my laptop for programming and 3D modeling, but I also have many uses for my iPad Pro. I prefer watching TH-cam on my iPad since it’s way more portable than a laptop and has a decently sized screen. I also use the Apple Pencil a lot to take notes or draw. Additionally, I’m able to use my iPad in conjunction with my laptop to do 3D sculpting that utilizes the pressure sensitivity of the Apple Pencil.
It’s a wonderful device to have in addition to a laptop, but not as a replacement. For me, I really need both. A Laptop can’t replace my iPad, and an iPad can’t replace my laptop. It’d be nice to one day see a happy medium between the two, but that day isn’t today.
Surface?
Rui Fung Yip If you’re wondering if a surface could replace my laptop? Then no. It’s not powerful enough, and the pen isn’t as good as the Apple Pencil. For me, the Laptop-iPad Pro combo is perfect.
What Laptop are you using?
Daruyos Daruyos 2016 15” MacBook Pro with TouchBar.
The main thing is the iPad pro doesn’t make a ton of sense to me, everything it does can be done basically just as well by the 300 dollar iPad. Sure the iPad pro will do things a tiny bit faster and it will be able to do some things the 300 dollar iPad cannot do, but it shouldn’t matter as long as you’ve got a primary pc to do them anyway. I couldn’t live without my iPad, but I’m more than happy with my 300 dollar version, in the end I don’t think paying so much for what is still a tablet justifiable. If you can afford it it is obviously better still, but I believe it’s not necessary for 80% of the people who do buy it. If, as you said, it actually was a happy medium between the two, I think it would be absolutely worth it, but right now it’s not.
I've used an older iPad as a daily driver for a while. It was a great computer but it doesn't replace a full Mac OS desktop experience. I wouldn't do it again unless I absolutely had to have a super light traveling computer.
For me, Mac OS is not a full replacement of a full Windows experience.
Win is good, MacOS is good, but I use windows as it is better for my needs. People should quit with the whole "ew whatever OS"
@Svellsongur Mac is a joke
Marcus Borderlands I couldn’t agree more. I use both Mac OS and Windows 10. They both have their own uses.
5:22 Linus Savage Tips XD
This is the best part of the entire video! XD
Oi meu celular e eu. Português
*demonetized*
That same part literally made me LOL! XD
Got to love how when it arrives to you it is already bent...
nicholas dean Hey, Apple is just looking out for the customer. Why bend it yourself when you can get it pre-bent!
true story
Apple acknowledged the issue, but said it was "normal"......
www.theverge.com/2018/12/19/18148957/apple-ipad-bend-pro-2018-shipping-manufacturing-confirmed
9to5mac.com/2018/12/19/bent-2018-ipad-pro-not-defect/
@@junrenong8576 ya but every single thing Apple ever releases there is always a issue with it that breaks it
Like seriously though, apart from the pencil why would anyone get this over the Surface, that thing IS a laptop while being a tablet
Robin Rai the first thing a lot of people don’t like windows operating system. Second of all if they have an iPhone u have a better ecosystem. Also surface laptops also are piece of junk due to them slowing down over a year or so. Your better off buying a more expensive pc laptop then getting surface laptop.
You can't impress the gang down at Starbucks with a Surface.
Surface is a shit tablet. Speaking from personal experience
@@xmark1440 uh why? If you say it's shit, say why it's shit. I've had my Surface Pro 4 for 2.5 years now, still works great. I love it.
@@corbinlenning3505 Have you ever owned a surface? I'm still using Surface Pro 2 and been using it as my main device for 5 years and it's not slowing down, in fact became faster with every update. Never had to repair it. It's Apple who are purposely DOWNCLOCKING their devices so that the battery would last longer. On top of that with an apple device you can accidentally sit on it and it bends, and apple of course will deny the repair. And even if they do repair something your data will be wiped completely, even if you have your lifes work there.
I do own an iPad Pro 11 inch. I did not consider a Surface Pro, I did not consider to buy a laptop. I bought mine because I wanted it.
I am writer, musician and student. My work consists out of writing songs, taking notes in university and sometimes create instrumentals for my music.
I am planning on filming and video editing in the future as well. Consider this:
The iPad Pro is the optimal machine for someone who wants to get started using „professional“ programs for photo- and video-editing or something similar. Most apps in that field are cheeper than there desktop counterparts and offer a similar experience i.e. LumaFusion being comparable to Final Cut, but being way cheeper than the entry version of FC. If you want to get started, the iPad Pro offers an inexpensive alternative into the world of creative work on a computer and it is cheeper and faster than a surface, if you account for the programs needed to work on it in those spaces. When I say it is inexpensive, I do mean that most work-stations are very expensive and the iPad rivals a 15 inch iPad Pro in performance while being way cheaper, if you are ok with having less storage. Plus there are ways to connect a hard drive to the iPad over Wifi until iOS supports hard drives natively.
Also, the iPad is god‘s gift from heaven for students. I can work on my presentations, create papers, but also work and highlight PDFs right on the iPad. If I make a mistake I just delete the last action and change the color of the marker instead of having to print out the PDF again and again. I own an old MacBook Pro 13 inch form 2013 and if I HAVE to do something with a drive I can still opt out to that, but I honestly never had to do that since owning my iPad. I love the iPad Pro and it was probably the best choice for me, but I do get where you are coming from Linus.
"You know what, Apple?"
*middle finger*
"Three"
Lmao! Exactly how I feel about that, switched to USB C but left out what would make it really useful, working with this power right off an external drive.
u don't get it - it's for security !!! ;-)
@@KenjiUmino Nah. They don't have to allow executables off external drives. Just content files for apps to interact with. The biggest reason to exclude it right now seems to be to sell ludicrously priced NAND.
you know i was joking
You actually can use external drives. Apple hasn’t provided a fully functional file system so you basically have to download an app to act as the file system. However it works. Pretty sure the file system is one of the iOS changes that got pushed back to iOS 13.
Awww poor baby go get you an android
Ipad pro is more expensive than my gtx 1060 i7 desktop
IceCreamPiez Great comparison... 🤦♂️
really? it sarts at 759
Retro he probably means the combined price with the pencil and such
But can you use it on public transport to work?
wontarr yeh, but those are accessories, it’s like saying that my phone costs 5K because I put a Gucci case on it...🤦🏿♀️
(I got an iPhone 5s)
It might be a great device for artists and musicians but as a programmer that thing is absolute garbage for me
You can still program on it. You just need courage, compassion, aggression and loyalty, not computer.
@@pradeep2662 not really....
Analogy Accepted surface tablets probs
Using DAW with iPad is not a great experience
@@lauw512 tell me more: windows kills the joy of produce, work music and music notation for me with constant crashes, incompatibilities and stuff. That DAW experience. Pfff
I have a co-worker who builds next gen services that run in the cloud... On his Microsoft Surface. I know for a fact the iPad cannot do what he was doing. As in, I know of some low level software incompatibilities that prevent iOS from being used for this. He's very happy using his surface for the task.
That's a apple problem as a whole going back to the beginning....
This the one for Profacebookers
I've had classmates in college who tried using iPads for laptop replacements and my heart ached for their poor souls. The unnecessary struggle of navigating MyMathLabs and MS office is not worth it
Like trying to remote control a Windows app via remote desktop on a tablet.... You can, but don't expect to get much work done. Some things just require a keyboard for ease of use.
Really? I see plenty of people at Uni who use iPad Pros as their only portable drivers (my younger brother being one of them, M.Sc. Mathematics). Especially the fantastic searchable handwriting you get from some apps makes it a much better pen & paper replacement for classes that feature lots of mathematical formulas or require drawing of graphs.
The Rest Of Us I think he’s just judging... I get plenty of work done at University as BA Commerce student
@@thebossman972 Sure, but it's still use case specific. As a BS Computer Science student, a tablet would never cut it for me.
Yep. My school rented out iPads and it took 2 weeks for those students to realize they were good for nothing but playing with the camera. The Office apps were garbage with no real keyboard/mouse. It was easier for them to get it done at school or find a buddy with a real laptop.
Verge = 100% professionals
Verge= Nazi
NEHAL MATHEW but biased journalism
@@Shaxzara It's called sarcasm...
When I got my first iPad in 2010 it was my only computer ...
I’ve always viewed the iPad as a full computer replacement and it has always worked great for me.
I used a 9.7 inch iPad Pro for a full year of college with a Logitech Create keyboard and was able to get a lot of work done on it, Apple's basic keyboard doesn't have back lighting, shortcuts (the logitech keyboard had shortcuts for things like a home button, brightness, volume, etc., it made it very functional), or good key travel so it makes it a lot more difficult to actually use for serious work. It's holding it back.
The lack of a file manager makes it useless for most users. Want to backup your photos and artwork? use a real computer.
Apple, we need a true file manager in both iphones and ipads in 2019. Android had it's own since...forever!
Delis007 yet andriod is not optimized and apple had that forever.
@@corbinlenning3505 Apple introduced the file manager on iOS 11. I'm talking about the file manager buddy and im an iPhone user in case you got confused.
They're scared of piracy.
@@corbinlenning3505 Try a motorola
@@corbinlenning3505 "andriod is not optimized" comment from 2008 when hardware was actually an issue
If it can’t use a mouse is it even a computer??
Well, most servers don't use mice so
If you’re stuck in WIMP mode are you even a computer user???
You going to use your iPad as a server now?
whats a computer
Yes, a computer is an electrical device that repeats the following process: input --> process --> output.
as a student its ok. I have a PC at home but use the ipad to take notes and online textbooks because it's hard using my phone. When I need a PC, I just wait till I get home and use my desktop. Could have bought a laptop but I didn't need one most of the time plus I hated writing notes on paper. Its bulky and I like the way I can resize, move, completely erase stuff, and sync my notes to my phone
@9pm Till1Come I have both and I absolutely hate the surface. Granted mine is the Pro 4 so it may have improved since then but the surface pro 4 I have with the i7 and 16gb of ram throttles to the point of being almost unusable for being so slow. Maybe I got a bad apple I don't know. All I know is I love my Ipad pro and I hate my surface. I would take my Ipad Pro anyday over the surface. I use it daily as a student to take notes. The file system is not an issue for me. I can do everything without needing access to it.
What ipad are you using and yeah you could have gone with the surface pro
Dale3887 damn I feel bad for you, you using an ipad pro 2018?
@@andreilorenzocatangay7328 2017, and I have both that was my point. I prefer the ipad over the surface
*I'm not going to buy an iPad until it runs a better software that can take advantage of all that power and that big screen.*
*To me the iPad is just a big iPhone.*
Also we need headphone jacks...
Wrong. It can't make calls. It's a big iPod touch.
that will learn em
NOONE CARES
Desktop operating systems, infinite adjustable screen angles, "lap top" usage, mechanical back-lit keyboards... If only we had some kind of device with this technology.
@@Klefth Wrong, it has no headphone jack, it's just... A big screen.
Can't even run bookworm adventures deluxe smh
For fucks sake already?
can't agree more
You're starting to get on my nerves
omg, I came over here from a dunkey video! Is nothing sacred?!
Go buy a raspberry pi and play minecraft on it
I never considered iPads as a laptop replacement, and so, I use them for media entertainment, light gaming, and most importantly, reading documents for my college studies, fit my needs perfectly 😁👍
@@00O3O1B Exactly, and that's why I got the iPad 2018 32gb, the best tablet I found at its price range. And before you call me iSheep, I prefer Android when it comes to phones 😁
@@00O3O1B The thing is, it isn't 1500.
I got a $150 RCA Android tablet that does the same thing. Light gaming, reading, media consumption, web browsing. Works great at 1/4 the price.
I went Apple then Samsung note, then back to Apple...it is just that reliable
@@00O3O1B sure you do, what if you want the nicest PDF reading experience? This is the best screen there is on any device. 120hz feels so nice when you zoom scroll or highlight and scribble on the pdf. there is awesome apps for it too. And also tell me please which device has as nice a screen? also the ipad is 799 not 1500, its only that if you upgrade the storage. people are so surprised that people want something nice. what the hell.
My LTE iPad + google voice replaced my phone. A researcher by day and programmer by night, I used last year's model for more than a year now, which gradually became essential, it is now my scratch paper, notebook, and terminal. It's also a good device to read articles, watch TH-cam, listen to music and audiobooks. Everything I need to do electronically can now be done with my old iPad with same or even better efficiency. Nevertheless, I found myself more at home with a laptop or desktop. Old habits die hard, I am not selling my MacBook.
The iPad Pro is still just a giant iPod Touch in my eyes. I can't take it seriously until it can run an actual desktop OS.
It wasn't long ago that you were REQUIRED to have a computer before you used an ipod touch or iPad for the first time. And you're still dependant on one if your firmware gets screwed up. To call something a computer I'd say it needs to be able to boot from external storage, or at the very least a verified restore partition if you want to still control what OS is loaded. Every feature they "perfect" even the obligatory anodized aluminum that's only filleted on one axis, is to increase profit. Dongles. Batteries. Shitty VRMs. T2 chips. Even USB C. Even though it's been useful for a few years now, it just became cheap enough to be worth their time to implement.
unfortunately been using it, yup its nothing but an iPod touch, cant get any work done
Why cant they just make an OS that is close to a desktop OS, make the ipad bigger, and then add a track pad.
@@SomeRandomGuy789 Why couldn't they just optimize macOS?
TechWalker Yeah. they can do either one though
But hey! It has a somewhat crippled photoshop version and can fold!
Randy Bobandy it runs affinity photo and the full version of ps is coming next year. Hardly a bad machine.
It has procreate which is amazing
B-b-but... THIS GUY COMPOSED MUSIC ON IT!
You guys just don't get it. You're not pro enough. Real pros just do, and those who don't do don't know!
Man, I still get a kick with how ridiculously defensive a certain techtuber got over this thing.
Amazing floppy foldy keyboard. Complete with two screen angles: 30 degrees, and falling flat on the table.
Andrés Cifuentes yah. But some people lack logic. They ignore Lumafusion which is basically final cut. Or affinity photo and designer. Or beatmaker 3 and Auria studio or DJay pro revit autodesk. Need I go on, logic seems to be difficult
Even as an Apple fanboy, I like a rant every once in a while.
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i used three generation of ipad and with every new ipad i feel there are only 3 new things.
1) faster processor, 2) screen resolution and fps, 3) smaller bezels
my point is that in the end it is still an ipad nothing more nothing less.
ALI AL-Hashmi What do you expect? And if you think the ipad pro is the same as the last ipad, you should look again.
That's why I'm still happy with my IPad 4🤷🏻♂️
Just out of interest, did the reduced bezel size ever feel like an upgrade? IMO a tablet NEEDS bezels to give our thumbs a place to rest.
It looks like the side bezels are thicker but the top and bottom bezels are thinner than the old iPad pro
jubuttib I don’t hold the iPad when I use it, I use the cover to make it stand and smaller bezels is pleasing when you watch something.
But I agree that a tablet must have bezels.
This was a GREAT review! Definitely one of your better videos.
I do professional visual effects and editing work, graphic and UI design, software engineering, and produce music as a hobby occasionally.
I have had iPad Pro 9.7" and 10" and the only pro-area it's good at is design and photography. For the rest there's just no software, be that apps or system-level support for something.
- You can't run Node.js/Python/Anything to develop
- You can sort of edit with Luma Fusion (it's like, reeeeally good for a tablet app) but you can't create motion graphics
- Garage Band is a good sketch book, but it lacks any mixing capabilities beyond volume and basic 3 band EQ. There's an Auria app which even has fucking FabFilter plugins, but it's still not a proper full DAW
On the graphics side however:
- ProtoSketch is an awesome vector graphics app similar to Sketch/Figma on desktop
- ProCreate smokes everything else in drawing field
- Affinity Photo replaces 99% of Photoshop functionality for most people.
With the epic display and the Pencil, you can do graphics and photo editing on iPad pro and feel really good
On the graphics side of things its still a secondary device tho. Fun way to work and doodle on the go. Also i agree with that Photoshop artist Linus mentioned. You really need a few buttons for shortcuts on the device. Speeds things up so much.
@@fierox88 It really depends on the kind of work you do. I designed a project in ProtoSketch that's now implemented and running in production and I know quite a few artists who work full time in ProCreate 🤷🏻♂️
Procreate is certainly good. Extremely so. But hard to beat a desktop software because it’s simply lacking too many essential features and lacking the extensive features of desktop art programs. The hardware is really good tho so most of the time it makes up for it. I wouldn’t do anything extensive and complicated on it though; it’s just not as efficient as a computer without the shortcuts and all the other stuff.
Literally a 5 sec search in the AppStore and I found a Python dev environment for iPad/iPhone. Please, edit your comment to stop misleading people...
@@beanoming it's supposed to be portable, you can't bring your pc around. Either way $1500 for an IOS device doesn't make that much sense when any cheap laptop with a decent keyboard is good enough for coding and stuff.
7:30 I think if you don’t have experience yet, that isn’t a problem.
The iPad Pro *can* replace a laptop. That laptop just has to be a 12-inch MacBook.
208 damn this comment is so ignorant
The 12-inch MacBook is fantastic for school! I could never see myself lugging around a huge computer around campus.
@@BeLikeNexus i mean..... nah that's literally the point hes trying to make in the video.
misha no because MacBooks are fully functioning high end computer. This is not a substitute for that
@@BeLikeNexus except as you've clearly watched in the video that's not really true is it? i mean it good but definitely not amazing and cant replace a powerful computer for most of the pros
Taran review: No support for multiple keyboards 1/10
"Where the fuck are macros anyway?" -1/10
Lol apple should advertise it comes bent from the factory and that's tottaly normal for such an expensive tablet
Don't forget how you can basically snap it in half if you sit on it accidentally, or with your bare hands without putting all THAT much force on it.
@@MGlBlaze I sat on my surface pro once and bent it. It didn't snap in half, but the screen was obliterated and I had to replace it. Yeah, you won't be able to recover the data of the Ipad, but it really isn't a problem compared to everything else on the market. How much important data do you have on the ipad that isn't backed up anyway? Remember that the surface pro is the device that jerry rigged everything praised for its durability. Tablets bend, this is nothing new. It's unacceptable that it comes like that out of the box though.
Tell me exactly where they said that it’s normal
@@Thomashorsman 9to5mac.com/2018/12/21/bent-ipad-pro-apple-comment/
Every freaking year they pull this crap and still have customers. It's the Tupperware of dishes, just buy something that'll last forever once.
9:48 Maine, beautiful. Although, it does get a tiny bit boring after you've lived there for 9+ years. I have.
*BENDY, BENDY*
didn't you hear? Apple said it's not an issue. It a new feature!
Woah! Bendgate 2!
bendy the ink machine
Jerry rig everything?
*CRUNCH*
Creative professionals, get a Wacom cinque companion. It has a digitizer on par with the iPad and has a full desktop os (windows 10) like the surface.
it's like buying a car without air-conditioner, without radio, without spare tyre. every one of this, come with a additional price.
And it's a worse performing car than the competition, at higher cost.
1. the ipad starts at 759(not really an additional price)
2. NOBODY EVER SAID YOU CANT DO ANITHING ON THE IPAD you just have to use it differently than a computer (apples slogan for it... look it up)
3. professionals like me already use the ipad as a computer
@@retro1120 NOBODY SAID YOU CANT DRIVE THE CAR...you have have to adapt to it...that's basically what you said
Have you bought a car recently? That's pretty much how the entry level of every car is sold these days.
@@LoneBeastYT but what he said is that the ipad is an incomplete car, while getting one is more like switching from a truck to a tesla, EVERYTHING WORKS, BUT THINGS LIKE TURNING ON THE AC ISN'T AS SIMPLE
Honestly, Apple shouldn't advertise the iPad Pro as a laptop replacement. Most professionals today would always prefer a standard laptop with a keyboard and trackpad. The only demographic the iPad Pro can appeal to are people who need it specifically for drawing. That will eventually change in the future as the younger generation gets older and become professionals, and they will go for an iPad for work because that's their main computer growing up.
For now though, Apple should be advertising it as a laptop alternative, not replacement. It's a small change in wording but makes a significant difference in rhetoric to where it's accurate. Laptops will always have their strengths. They can do more precise tasks, use expandable storage, type a 10 page essay, and so on. However, the iPad can do most of those tasks, just in a different way; it's a matter of whether you are willing to adjust to it. If you do decide to adjust to it, you get more features with an iPad like scanning documents, writing notes, drawing directly on the screen, seeing augmented reality, and much more. In addition, you get a better experience of web browsing, watching videos and playing games, which is what most people do on their computers anyway.
Overall, the 2018 iPad Pro is, by far, the best tablet ever created which wasn't really a question to begin with. Android tablets pretty much fall flat. The Google Pixel Slate is a joke. Microsoft's Surface Pro is more of a laptop because it relies more on mouse than touch, and it falls short on being a good tablet. However, if you are willing to commit to it, the iPad Pro can be a somewhat good laptop alternative as well, and that's enough to make it a good purchase.
I did year 11 of high school using just a iPad mini instead of MacBook air to type print and access school servers to save files and do presentations
But if you want to animate thats where the ipad falls for some
Or you could just get a Yoga and have an awesome tablet experience + full Windows 10. When you account for iPad's keyboard, even it's weight isn't that much less, at slightly over 1 kg, where Yoga series stands at 1.1 - 1.4 kg, depending on the model.
@@wojciechmuras553 Windows 10 on a tablet is not as good as iOS on an iPad, and I know that because I've used Windows "tablets" before. Every time I try to use Windows in tablet mode, I always go back to laptop mode because of how unoptimized it is.
@@wojciechmuras553 I could use the extremely unoptimized and slow UI with a stylist that barely rivals Huion for digital art or the apple pencil with tilt support and apps like Clip studio paint EX and procreate.
Apple products are kinda just a Meme now.
the consumer market tells a different story
@@theharbingerofconflation No it doesn't :S
Lol yes maybe to 10 year olds who look at memes, when you spend your days in boardrooms doing “grown up stuff” you yourself might be shopping for Apple products.
@@theharbingerofconflation that because Apple's success is based purely from a marketing stand point... They've brainwashed society into assuming that apple products are always the "best"
@@whothou they were the best in professional audio for a long time.... they kinda threw it out of the window with the trashcan macpro.
show the clip of JerryRigEverything just folding the ipad pro like a piece of paper
Yep, pretty god awful design
@Erwin Puijnen It may not be a 'real' issue, but it makes sense, from an engineering perspective, to move the hole in your support structure away from the place that carries the highest load ;).
@Erwin Puijnen there have been reports of some being bent right out of the box. So pretty awful design to be honest
The Apple fan will definitely buy it because it is an APPLE!!!! 😂😂😂👏👏😝
It should never be inside your home. It's best to keep it at the office... Where it's safe 😂😂
Apple Should.
Hire Linus to make Their Advertisements, that was lit.
*Cough cough*
_Sarcasm_
Why you add the sarcasm thing?
Linus made an amazing Apple ad
they may as well he shills enough to them
*lit* ; How do you do, fellow kids?
I’m sure he’d mutilate one and make a comment about ‘customer service sucks’
I overwhelmingly agree that something like this needs full OS X with a "tablet mode". I've been saying this since the original iPad launched. The future is something like an iMac that you can take off the stand and it goes into tablet mode for portable touch use like light browsing and productivity, then you put it back and can use a mouse and keyboard with full Mac OS. Strangely Microsoft has beaten Apple to the punch on this and continues to do so.
@Eric Chan I didn't say Microsoft did it well, just that they did it at all.
apple knows they can continue to milk this, because as long as their user base just keeps buying their product it does not matter what they do with it, because for most people the features of the product cover their needs, I hate how many things apple omits, or does for seemingly no reason, but despite all of their issues the fact that they can profit off of omitting all of these things just demonstrates that they can dominate within the market they have created for themselves. I still would never touch an apple device though; my needs have been met by many other devices that the technologically inept would refuse to use. So, it's more about individual use cases above all.
An iPad can never truly replace a laptop. Hence why it's in the category of tablets and not laptops.
But a Surface "tablet" can replace a laptop. For a cheaper price and better features and performance.
The fuck you mean a Surface can't replace a laptop? It's practically a laptop you moron. xD Ever heard of ultrabooks and 2-1?
Correct answer, wrong arguments
@@wiktorixgaming8014 Amen!
@@georgeschlumberger9814 Apple iPad is just like a normal tablet, With a keyboard. Meant for kids or for artists. I mean if you want an iPad for studies most apps that you need don't exist on the iPad.
If u have 64 GB storage then download 64 more GB of storage on app store
tim cook wants to know your location
Help me
Download more ram while you're at it xD
You can dowload better cpu
Lmao
This is the best tech video I have seen so far.
As someone who has had an iPad Pro 10.5 inch for 6 months now, I feel it's best for media consumption and drawing for a hobby. As someone who's only other experience drawing is a $50 Wacom tablet, being able to see what I draw as I draw and being able to see my hand too makes drawing much easier for me. Also, I take my iPad wherever I go, because it's smaller than a laptop and good for TH-cam, and if I feel the need to draw something, I can.
This has always been my thing - once you add an (inferior) keyboard to a tablet, you just have a worse laptop, at that point...Why not a laptop, at least for tasks that involve fine pointers (word processing, IDEs, etc). I'd be more excited for a clamshell Macbook running their in-house ARM processors than ever more powerful iPads.
bro called it
Now I need 3 different headphones
USB-C = For my iPad
Lightning = For my iPhone
Headphone Jack = For my MacBook
EDIT: Thank You For 400 likes. I just wanted to say that this comment was a JOKE, I don’t use wired headphones, THIS COMMENT WAS A JOKE!!!
Or just one pair of Bluetooth headphones. Pretty difficult huh?
@@imaadh Bluetooth is shit.
@@imaadh Bluetooth ads latency and audio degradation, which makes it useless for anyone trying to use high end monitors since the soundstage isn't natural anymore. A Bluetooth design that sounds as good as high end headphones from sennheiser and the like are not here yet, because Bluetooth comes with big limitations. Also i already own a pair of sennheiser hd800s headphones, headphones that are 1700 dollars msrp. Not only do they sound better than any Bluetooth device but they will sound better than any Bluetooth device for a long time. And there's no reason for the ipad to not have a headphone jack, especially since its a "professional" device.
Quinn Y pathetic that we have to buy so much stuff to suit what apple want even though we all clearly just want a regular headphone jack
Actually you just need two pairs of dongles (usb-c and lightning) to convert a standard pair of headphones, but yes it would be nice to still have a headphone jack on newer IOS devices, especially on the iPad Pro which should have the space inside to accommodate one.
It’s a niche product and not for those who actually need a laptop. This is a Laptop alternative not a replacement that is much more portable. If you want a laptop, get a laptop...
Price
ya do know the ipad pro benchmarks better than the 12 inch macbook air
6:31 A Pro audiophile... Oh wait, no headphone jack. : (
mrk107 just stick a dongle to your headphones and don’t remove it
@@danteyoutu then how TF are you supposed to plug in a mixer? Or a DAC
you could use USBC headphones or a dongle.
Kennygaming20 USB-C.. USB-A to USB-C converter
@@YesToCookies23 USB C headphones are inferior, so no, that isn't an option
It’s really portable 2.
U can bend it like a book
You can flop it around and use it as a fan. Active cooling! Wait, you're talking about bendgate 2.0.
@@CaveyMoth gotteeeeeem
Hell truth!
The surface could replace one’s laptop but this is just a tablet.
barcitaa ikr
surface pros are unreliable. i've owned a surface pro 3 since its release and have been through hell.
Lel
Just a pug on the internet. Yes, it’s true that a tablet, even a high end tablet like the iPad Pro, will not replicate all the features of a laptop unlike whereas the Surface, which doubles as both, can. But if what you do on your laptop can be done just as well on a tablet (especially a high-end tablet like the iPad Pro) then the missing feature are not an issue for you. Thus “replace” in this context means act as a substitute for a laptop by by providing the features of laptop that you use and need even if not all the features of a laptop. If it can replace a laptop in your particular use case not all use cases, then it’s a laptop replacement for you but not for everyone.
But anyone looking to buy a cintiq companion would see an ipad pro as a bargain especially a slightly older one.
Hey Linux! Big fan and love your videos. Could you make an updated video of the ipad pro when iPadOS comes out?
He ain't Linux. He's Linus
Wait an operating system kernel is making videos about iPads! Sign me up
Hey sorry Linux does not work on Apple tablets.
@@jeetadityachatterjee6995 lol, taking the joke too far
ha you called him linux instead of linus
This is my input as an artist. I REALLY want to love the iPad Pros, and I do. Like Linus said the Apple Pencil feels near perfect to draw with, only the Wacom pens feel comparable. And there are a few robust apps for art.
But it's not a computer. Even now. It's still just a companion device. The iPad pros feel sorta frustrating from an artist perspective, if you want it to be your only device. It feels SO fun to draw on, it's like a light e-sketchpad, you have the freedom to draw/position wherever you want rather than be anchored to your desk (like a real sketchbook), the battery life lasts an eternity compared to drawing on a laptop, when you turn it on you can begin drawing imedietly instead of waiting for a computer startup. You'll want to ditch your computer and just do work with this. But you can't.
While good drawing apps do exist the vast majority are not for getting serious work done. Procreate is easily the best one as a photoshop replacement. Astropad requires a separate computer anyways
If you want to make complicated artwork with dozens/hundreds of layers you'll miss your shortcuts. Getting artworks between different apps is way harder than it needs to be because you can't manipulate files the way you want to. Among many other things. The software holds this thing back WAY to much.
It's a really *fun* device. But almost no matter what "pro" you consider yourself to be, it can't be your only device
Wtf are these long paragraphs
Almost all of the shortcomings seem to now be addressed with the new iPad OS. The only thing that I didn't see (but maybe missed) was the secondary screen but apple envisions this differently with the Mac + iPad screen share update.
they did fix the external display stuff
THIS IS THE BEST INTRODUCTION EVER!
Something I think Linus missed at the end there is the existence of the regular ipad. If the pro can't replace a laptop, then why pay twice the price of a regular latest gen ipad? My girlfriend who's an art therapist tried the pro and the regular ipad and really found no reason to get the pro. The only real downside is that the first gen pencil doesn't have some of the conveniences the second gen one does have, but are you really willing to pay twice the price or more for some small conveniences? If you're an artist I think it's best to just get the standard ipad and keep using your real computer along side it.
Not all professions do their work primarily having to use computers or using computer software. And the iPad is perfect for that, to me its more like an e-notebook. I'm thinking of the medical field like doctors and nursed (the career I am studying into).
Its sleek and simple design is really appealing and is a great companion to hold and use in a professional environment. To take notes from others and to easily show or get across ideas and information to others while it doesn't distract from a 1 on 1 conversation. using a phone makes it look like you are too uninterested and using a laptop can get too much in the way while the iPad is perfectly in the middle and is an acceptable conversation device. Also when you stand most of the time its very hard to use a laptop.
I love iOS. Yes it's not as rich or in depth but for what I need it for I don't need it to be. The iPad is like an extension of my body. I don't have to think about it, it just works. A laptop/PC feels like a machine I'm having to control. I love my Windows Desktop but I think that the iPad has nailed being seamless.
I think of it as Computers(PC/Laptops,Servers) They are the things doing the work, they need performance and the systems and software and that isn't what an iPad is for. As much as people may think, the iPad is not meant to replace a Laptop, but that doesn't make it irrelevant. It is for another purpose I think that if you are doing the work, hands on, like doctors, counsellors, even to architects and professors and need to compile and organise your thoughts with a simple and elegant device then get an iPad.
Even then the performance is no slouch. I love to do videography as a hobby and editing on the iPad is amazing. If you haven't seen Johnathan Morrison's video on editing with the iPad then you need to. Plus I love a bit of art as well which with the pencil is an absolute dream.
I'm who the iPad is for.
I am a profesional welder. That’s why I need ipad PRO!
I'm confused. I've done welding before and I don't remember needing a tablet, or any computer for that matter.
@@MorallyPanicked that's the joke
@@MorallyPanicked r/woooosh
@@MorallyPanicked you must be fun at parties.
I think that there should be an option in setting for if you want iOS or macOS.
but that's just my opinion
Incorrect. As an Apple user, you are not allowed opinions. The Apple staff have the exclusive rights to decide what your opinions are, as well as deciding on any accidentally created options on your behalf. I believe there is a section detailing these restrictions in their standard EULA.
*For $1,500 you can even buy one of the macbook Airs*
True. But professionals would get a pro. The iPad Pro is more powerful than the MacBook Air believe it or not
Odin Asgard yeah on paper. It really comes down to what you use it for. If we’re talking video editing than a MacBook Pro is probably what you want but for artistic stuff and browsing, the iPad is perfect. Basically how you interact with it and for what, is the question. The answer comes down to the os pretty much.
Odin Asgard that’s the dream
Odin Asgard catalyst is for porting iPad apps to Mac. Not For the iPad Mac apps. The only thing that will come from catalyst is a very dumbed down experience on the Mac.
Odin Asgard no thanks. I’ll take your word for it. I still stand by my point though. I can see through their marketing. They’re working towards dumbing down the Mac so they can either:
1. Dumb down the Mac and make it functionally the same as the iPad so consumers will finally drink the kool aid that Apple’s been trying to sell (i.e., that there’s no reason to buy a laptop when the iPad can do the same thing.). Therefore giving them the green light to finally kill off the Mac.
2. Dumb down the Mac by taking away core functionality that it’s had for the past twenty years so they can slowly sell that functionality back by means of yearly incremental “hardware upgrades”.
Or, 3: Some combination of both possibilities mentioned above.
Not to give away my age but I’ve been watching Apple’s tactics for well over twenty years and I know their pattern. Trust me, nothing they do is in the interest of the consumer in the long run. It’s in the interest of Apple’s bottom line.
It's like a reverse surface pro. Great tablet, that you really don't want to use as a laptop. The surface pro is a great thin and light laptop that you really don't want to use as a tablet. It's great for note-taking and drawing though. Written on my SP4 :)
My iPad Air which I bought in 2013 has been 90% of my laptop in these last 5 years. The problem is that it has been only 90% till now.
I watch yt / movies on my ipad in bed, when am on plane ect.
Don't use any of the other apple products tho, but still I like it.
But the 'pro' part of this is useless for me as I'd rather use my pc or laptop for anything productive.
That's basically what I use mine for. I use my iPad Mini 2 as a media consumption device for things such as TH-cam/Netflix, for reading things such as books and articles, and... well that's pretty much it. I don't see iOS as a great operating system for getting things done, and I have my other devices that are better suited for that to do those things.
I am no tablet expert (personally I find them to be useless) but couldnt you find another tablet for those very basic applications for like 10-30% of the price?
ipad is the worst device to watch youtube on because of its aspect ratio and it's only getting worse with videos like this going 18:9
I still like a netbook/chromebook for that cause a keyboard is still damn useful.
NaNexistent have to agree with rather doing productive stuff on a pc but iPads are great for taking to school or work easily and great for mobile gaming and mild video editing and multitasking etc.
The greatest thing about this is that Windows 10 can run on the A12x processor, but OSX can't. So Microsoft has the better OS for this machine than Apple does.
In reality, the iPad pro is a replacement for paper, not a laptop. The writing experience is way better than my surface book, the screen is great, the camera is wonderful for scanning, and the notetaking and art apps are as good as you can find on Windows.
Philip Martin sorry but window 10 is trash OS. Windows should have stuck with windows 7 and made improvements on it.
Windows 10 is trash. Mac OS is basically UNIX and if apple wasn’t against keeping it open source it probably would be 100% compatible with LINUX. Apple locks down in their kernel what hardware is utilized and how it’s utilized. It’s why you see way less crashes on Mac OS. It’s also part of the reason why their i9 processors aren’t going to be pushed as hard as an i9 on windows.
Windows 10 sucks, agree with the dude below, Windows 7 should have been their baby.
looooool fanboiz
CopyTv ? I own 3 PC’s, and a Mac Pro. There’s no “fanboying” here...
@@corbinlenning3505 Windows 10 is fine, and it's miles better than iOS or Android, which is what it competes against in the reduced instruction set market.
As a professional graphic artist, if you had to have a tablet to draw on, I would go with the surface pro. Clip studio/adobe creative suite and a traditional file system is really the best way to go. Also if your a gamer it's nice to be able to use steam stream on a home network to a surface tablet from a gaming rig. Not gonna give up my iphone though