A Beginner's Guide to Home Solar
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- If you're thinking about getting solar for your house and are not sure where to start, this video will inform you of the basics. You'll quickly find that with a suitable up-front investment, you'll be saving far more on your energy bills in the long term.
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
0:47 The rising cost of energy
2:03 Solar power
3:03 Solar panels
4:24 Difference between kW and kWh
5:00 Annual solar generation analysis
5:27 Monthly solar generation analysis
6:10 Daily solar generation analysis
7:45 How it all works: Solar only
9:27 How it all works: Solar diverter
10:47 How it all works: Electric vehicle
11:27 How it all works: Solar and battery
13:21 Investment required
14:15 Summary
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The best and most informative explanation (the graphics are worth a millions words) of Home Solar I have seen so far. Well done Gary.
That’s made my day, James - thank you 😊
I am an electrical engineer and honestly your videos are really very good.
That's such great feedback - thank you! :-)
Excellent video. Makes it so much clearer
Many thanks Jonathan - my next video should be live later this week 😀
Thank you. A nice clear explanation. Looking forward to seeing more.
Thanks very much for the compliment. My next video shall be out shortly - hope you like it! 😀
Thank you Gary for this wonderful clear explanation, it is the best I’ve seen by a mile!
Thanks Peter - that’s great to hear! 😀
Truly sublime video and well presented. Thank you!
Thanks Andrew, this was my first video, and so your feedback means a lot! 🙏
I watched both of your videos and they were both fantastic. Great pacing, nice diagrams and easy to understand - Thanks!!
Many thanks Richard - that’s praise indeed! 😀
Excellent video, Gary - really clear explanation and I'm sending this video to some folks I know that are considering getting solar!
Thanks very much, Alan. And very much appreciated 👍🏻 😀
Nice video, looking forward to seeing more.
Thanks Colin - the next one should be ready in a couple of weeks 👍🏻
An excellent, clear and useful explanation Gary, thank you.
Thanks David - that's really nice to hear :-)
Excellent review. Very well organized, cogent presentation, great use of graphics, and really no fluff. Loved this. Thank you for the time and effort you put into this and sharing.
Ok, Robert - I'm humbled. All of this was exactly my aim when I started out. There's too much information in this world and not enough time to figure out where the best sources are, and I just want to save people time and make them well-informed - thank you!
I wish you were my science and math teacher in high school
You are too kind - thank you :-)
Excellent and very clear video. Thank you. You are doing important work here. Thanks.
Thanks Gary :-) - it's great to hear a lot of people are getting a lot out of the videos. Working on the next one now, which will be about solar diverters...
Discovering your channel from France. Lots of useful information, great narration and tone, nice graphics, clear presentation... Thank you for the hard work, it is a fantastic job you are doing !
Hi Philippe - thanks so much for the very kind words. It means a lot to me.
Great also, to have viewers from France on the channel - especially as you get a lot more sun that the UK does! :-) All the best!
Thank you, great video, perfect described. ❤
My pleasure, Annette! Really happy to hear 😀 Thanks
Great video! Explained well to a complete newbie. Thanks
Thanks Isabel - it’s great to get feedback like this! Hope you get a lot from my other videos as well 😀
Just watched both your videos, very informative and I like how you use the graphics. I am an Electronics design engineer and I understand the systems. You have described all of this for non-technical people to understand. Well done!
Thanks! :-) I've got a background in electrical and electronic engineering (but only because there weren't any software courses available back then) and many people have said I'm pretty good explaining complex things in a simple way. Takes a lot of hours though for each video - lol
That's a really helpful video. Many thanks for sharing this information
Thanks Steve - it's really great to get feedback like this. I'm working on the next video now - hopefully ready in the next couple of weeks! :-)
Thank you for a clear explanation!
You are welcome!
Brilliant video. It’s made everything a lot clearer. Thanks :)
My pleasure, Charlotte 😀
Superb explanation Gary. Looking forward to future video’s. Thanks.
Thanks Dan :-) It's a lot of work, but comments like this make it most worthwhile! Next video (on solar diverters) coming soon...
Fantastic video, so clear and concisely explained.. subscribed and recommended to others.
Hi Darren, thanks very much for the kind words! And also for sharing 😀 really appreciated!
I absolutely love these videos Gary, thank you sir, you are a real public servant.
Thanks Scott - that means a lot! :-)
Just watched No.1 , again, brilliantly presented and fantastic content. Many Thanks
Thanks Nic! I’m in the middle of researching my next video, which will be all about calculating the payback period for various solar installations :-)
@@GaryDoesSolar just forwarded your link to our neighbours who are looking to install 48 panels on a barn roof, to provide domestic electricity and EV charging points
Great first video. We had installed 6 weeks ago a 10+6 400w system. It was a quick decision as we unexpectedly needed our roof retiling so fitted solar at the same time. Due to this getting a system NOW was not easy, but a recommend local installed managed to fit us in. Understanding the feed in limitations is why our system is a 3.6Kwh (10x400) and 3Kwh (6x400) system. The 3.6Kwh is a hybrid inverter for future battery storage. You are limited to 3.68Kwh going back into the grid without special survey works. So on a good day, the 6 panels can be producing 2.4Kwh and the 10 panels even more, but if the house isn't using it, the hybrid inverter has to throttle back the energy produced from the 10 panels so no more than 3.68Kwh is exported.
In the short time we have had it, currently we are pulling from the grid on average 6Kwh instead of the previous 18kwh. So a good saving. We just need to use/store the excess.
Thanks for the kind words. Yeah, there is so many factors to consider for any solar installation - no wonder that people can get confused and end up ordering the wrong setup. I'm hoping that my second video will be of help, it should go live shortly.
Have you considered what you get money wise from the Feed Back Tariff against not Feeding it Back. And using the full potential of your system. You only need the DNO survey if you use the Feed In Tariff system. Decent battery set up would help as well though for sure and you will need DC Battery rather than an AC battery as you will be charging from you PV array rather than the Grid tied AC battery. Your not doing to bad really majority of the 6Kwh you use could be solved by the Battery you will add at some point as it occurs during the hours when you loose solar power evening time and over night.
Very well explained Gary
Thanks Gary - great to get this feedback!
Brilliant video!
Thanks Aiden 😀👍🏻
Thank you Gary for this very informative and educational video, very easy to understand in a lay man's language, I will be more than happy to share all your 6 videos to folks who are interested in having Solar System on their roof...Thanks again, Gary.
Hi there - that's very kind of you to say! Comments like this make my day, as this was my intention then starting out on this journey :-) I really appreciate you taking the time to share my videos to others - thank you!
A great and very clear video
Thanks Anthony - glad to be of help!
Thanks Garry your explanation is perfect and I have sent this to my wife for her understanding
My pleasure, James!
This is excellent stuff Gary and I'm going to put a link on my video on the subject to this as you bring a lot of really useful information every one needs to know. Thank you
I’m humbled. Thanks for the very kind words. And thank you also for taking the effort and time to promote my video! 😀 I’m working on the next video now, which gets a little deeper into the topic 👍🏻
very useful video thank you Gary
Thanks Barry - great to hear! 😀
Amazing Gary❤❤❤❤
Thanks Rebecca! Great to see you yesterday! x
Great videos mate loved them
Thank you! :-)
Thank you for all the work you have put into this channel Gary. It’s the best I have found at going back to basics but also not dumbing the topic down or leaving out important information. I cant wait for your further videos, and will be sharing the channel with a colleague PV support group helping people get into solar.
I have had a thought, I came across your channel as I am looking to go through a full PV, battery, water heater, etc. install in my Victorian house in Bristol to try to gain the maximum from my roof. If you wished to follow it along for your channel as a case study you would be more than welcome. Just let me know.
That's great feedback, Stephen - thank you! I'll try to retain the level of quality for future videos :-) Next one will be on solar diverters I think...
That could be of interest, Stephen - are you creating a blog or videos as you go along?
I wasn’t planning on recording anything. Seems plenty of work to just work out what I want and what will give the best balance of up front cost, efficiency, and running cost in my Victorian home.
That’s where I hoped someone like yourself might be able to help me choose the right products and then you could share the thought process, final system install process and my final costs via your channel.
I’ve already started the process by having a heat loss survey.
I would of course make videos along the way if it would be of interest.
Great video, really simply breaks down so many questions I had on going solar.
Thanks Steven - yeah, it can be quite a complex topic, so I’m really pleased I’ve been able to break it down and convey it well 😀👍🏻 all the best with your solar journey (adventure even!)
@@GaryDoesSolar I have my 4.2kW array and 7.2kWh batteries being installed later in the month. I hope I've been guided correctly by the fit out company.
Sounds like a pretty good setup, Steven. Hope the install goes well and that you're able to get plenty sunshine before the year is out!
@@GaryDoesSolar I hope so but I fear I might be waiting till next summer before I get some decent data.
Thank you for clear explanation of Basic PV for homeowners! ! 🌞 re: 'Return on Investment' Time...as I have been explaining to U.S. customers for decsdes, they need to ask the utilities... "When will my Electric Bill pay-off??" Of course the Answer is "Never" since buying energy monthly from grid suppliers never has a 'pay-off' & is only Renting your Energy forever!! In contrast, Your own PV system is Owning the energy Source so it Has a payback🌅🗽
Love it! :-)
Great video, look forward to more content
Thanks Darren - working on the next video now 👍🏻
Please do some more videos - these are great!
Thanks Robbie - next video should be available in a week or two! :-)
Great video Gary.
Thanks Dan! I’ve been told that I’m good at explaining things in a clear, simple way - so I thought I’d try my hand at this topic, as it’s going to be something that many people will want to get a handle on! Glad you like the result - I’ll try my best to keep up the pace 👍🏻
I am new to solar myself, currently learning everything to become an installer. I come from the energy back ground and always kept away from solar but always found renewables interesting. It’s a very clear video. One of the best I have seen and I have seen hundreds now lol.
That’s praise indeed, Dan - thanks! 😊 And good luck with your endeavour. I think Solar will be a huge topic for decades to come and as a top-quality installer, you’ll be set for life.
I'm from South Africa and your videos were very helpful. Everybody seems to want to go solar to reduce bills.
Thanks for watching - very much appreciated 😀 yeah, I think as a planet, we’re only just getting started with harnessing the power from solar and wind etc. The world will look very different in 20-30 years time wrt energy management.
One of your best ever vids Joe 😅😅😅😅😅😅
Thank you! :-)
Regards from Macedonia ... You are the best ...
My regards back to you, Jovan. Thanks for the very kind words! I’ll keep the videos coming… 😀👍🏻
@@GaryDoesSolar Hope I'll see your next project soon ...
As someone who is seriously considering having Solar panels installed I really appreciate your first two videos, I have been doing my research for a few months now and your videos c/w graphics have really helped explain the things I need to know and look out for - thank you Gary.
All I need to do now is persuade "her that must be obeyed" to let me raid the savings account!
Hi Ken - that’s great feedback - thank you! And yeah, I know the feeling. My other half thought I was bonkers when I suggested it would be a great idea to deface the roof with black plastic sheets and put a massive battery in the garage! 🤣 Took me a while to explain the financial benefits, but she’s totally onboard now 👍🏻 Good luck 🤞🏼
And my sense was that this is indeed a great video for we who are "looking" to show to our other halves who are "skeptical". :-) "We" may have to sift through hours of videos to find what suits us best, but "they" may at least be willing to watch 15 mins with Gary here to get the essentials.
Thanks for yours efforts, and looking forward to the rest.
Great video! It would be really great to have a follow up on pros and cons of getting a battery, solar, and heat pump. Do we need all three? Is it better just to have one or two?
You're much better at explaining these things than anyone else on TH-cam!!
Installing a ASHP would require more lecky (to replace gas CH), so long as the PV/battery was large enough the ASHP would be powered too. In the above example substitute the hot tub for the ASHP.
Thanks for the very kind words. I do keep thinking about heat pumps as an alternative to gas, especially with the current gas prices, but I wouldn't say I'm up to speed yet. I've got the next two video topics sorted and so let's see - I'll need to get researching! :-)
Great video Gary, it must have taken many hours to produce.
I'm an electrical engineer so understood most of this already but you have a great way of putting some more complex concepts across and making them easy to understand
Are you a teacher or technical author by any chance?
Off to watch the next instalment, keep up the good work :-)
Thanks very much for the kind words, Neil - you're not wrong. When I started this, I thought it would not take too long to make a video - after all they're only 15-20 minutes long... how wrong I was! It literally took maybe 50-100 hours for each video. My background is in software as it happens. But back then there were no software engineering courses at uni so I did electrical and electronic engineering. Most of my career has been in mobile telecoms (I'm a SIM expert) and I really enjoy presentations and the like. Working on my next video just now, which will be about the National Grid and how those with solar/battery can start making money as well as saving money... All the best with your electrical engineering career - I think that whole world is getting more exciting by the day! :-)
@@GaryDoesSolar You are AWESOME!!!
A very good point about prioritizing self-consumption over selling the excess of generated energy to the grid. Electric cars and electric boilers come to the rescue. However, in order to take the most of solar energy, the lifestyle should be more aligned with the sun!
You’re not wrong there! 😀
Great video from a solar convert already!
Many thanks 🙏 I think the solar revolution is just getting started as well. Working on the next video now…
Great video , would be good to know a little more about immersion tanks and systems like mixenergy or eddi and how they would help.
Many thanks for the feedback! I had planned to buy a mixenergy tank myself, but after a pipe leak in my existing tank, it wasn’t an option due to long leadtimes. But I did buy a highly efficient tank instead. I keep a list of items that people are asking for, and will look to produce videos for the most popular items. I’ll add your suggestions to the list!
Great content and lovely to see someone that puts together a spreadsheet to help everyone to run various calculations to understand the variations when/if prices change.
Is there a way to change the spreadsheet to allow modelling of the tariffs that have a cheaper night rate e.g. Octopus Smart?
Hi Jag, thanks for the great feedback! And yes, in the spreadsheet you can simply substitute new values in columns N and R for the tariff you're interested.
I'm also working on a web app version of the utility, which will be easier to use. More soon... or send email and email to "me" followed by an at symbol, then my channel name (all one word) and finally dot com, and I'll send you a link to an early version of it.
I’ve installed both solar, a Powerwall and myenergi equipment to heat the water and charge my Kia Nero. Your right it’s a huge saving especially now with energy going through the roof. However your car analysis is a little wide as one requires a minimum of 1.4 kw to charge the car this means on my charge point I’ve got to set it to combine the grid with the spare solar to reach that 1.4 base line. Before the current price rise and with a small FIT payment, I was the last to take it up before it ended, I’ve worked out that my combined energy bill was little more than £20 a month. We don’t scrimp on energy as my wife love heat but we do live in a modern well insulated Semi Detached. We were able to use our savings to complete the work and it’s over the last four years given us a return of around 8% which was way better than the banks were offering. I really believe it’s time our government! Legislated that all new builds had solar panels and battery storage. It wouldn’t increase the house price by a huge amount but would allow people to make use of solar energy without having to find huge lumps of money, and of course it would increase the value of the property against one that didn’t have any of this equipment
Sounds like you have a great installation there! Fantastic to hear the ROI you’re getting. With UK rates expected to rise again in the autumn by an eye-watering 64%(!) those who can afford to get solar will get their money back even quicker. I totally agree with you regarding the government’s role with solar - other countries provide more support than the UK, both on equipment purchase and payment for exported kWh. With the price of new homes being what they are, the % extra burden on the price for having solar is low, but the upside for the country in terms of self-sufficiently is huge. Granted, the storage issue needs to be resolved (locally and regionally), but we have the wherewithal to do that.
Thanks for the note on EV charging - much appreciated!
Grea video. 🙃
Thank you!
This is an old thread.....not sure if you will see this.
Many thanks for the vids....really good, concise explanations on a wealth of topics.
One thing I've not seen (unless I've missed it).....
Could you please explain how the inverters AC output, overrides the grid AC, and supplies the power to the load.
Many thanks
You’re most welcome about the video. Glad it was of some help to you. Now the AC output of the inverter is actually *combined* with the AC supply of the home. More information on that here: electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/507935/how-do-you-combine-2-ac-power-sources#:~:text=The%20AC%20sources%20MUST%20be,same%20voltage%20and%20current%20rating.
Many thanks Gary 👍
Good clear video. One other bonus of solar/ battery system is power cut protection, battery feeds the house if grid is out. So pleased I bought into this! remember storm Arwen!! as well as huge cost savings on a split rate tarriff....
Thanks for the kind words. And thanks also for the note on that extra benefit from a battery. I’ll bring that into the next video where I cover batteries and other equipment in more detail 👍🏻
Can you tell me more about the split rate tariff please? Is that the same as time of use tariff?
Yes split rate tariff same as time of use tariff. Im British gas 15p 5am to midnight, 39p through the day, but run on battery through day so 39p is irrelevant other than standing charge. Its a Tesla powerwall 2 system I have . Also has feature if getting lots of sun in sunny fife, can go completely off grid through the night, need to remember to go on grid when daylight happens, so can export....
I had the solars (4kw) fitted about 9 years ago, and Tesla fitted last november, Full VAT on both, If you get both together, Is VAT zero, I beleive...
That sounds great! And, as it happens, I know a lot about the Fife weather, as I as was born and brought up there 😀
Excellent video! I’ve been interested in getting solar for a few years now, is it really worth gettting them installed now, or waiting a few years for efficiency to improve? 20% doesn’t sound that high…
Hi varnect203 - thanks for the kind words. I've just got started and will have further videos coming soon - there's a lot to say about solar! :-) Regarding panel efficiency, playing back the video, I'm giving the impression that 20% is not that great, when in fact, the technology required to get to 20% has been outstanding over the last few years, and products are under development today that will take the efficiency up to around 40% :-)
Great video Gary, your costs don't allow for replacements, my system is 16 panels, a hybrid inverter, and batteries however 2 years ago my inverter stopped charging my batteries I was told that the batteries were not suitable for the inverter. I have now had a new inverter and 3 Ion batteries installed so another £3.650 plus maintenance package which now gives me 10 years full cover parts and labour, so a lot of money
Hi Martyn, sorry to hear you had to shell out another few thousand pounds just to keep your system going. This is the downside of having a string inverter (which is the most popular option for domestic solar) - they just don't last much more than 10 years (best scenario) and could fail a lot earlier (as it did in your case).
And you were hit with the next problem, where DC-coupled batteries compatible with one string inverter are not for other inverters - such a shame, but maybe you can sell them...
Hey Gary, good video once again. I went to look for that link to the other video and it works perfectly. However, when I set up for the place where I live it gave me different results from what you have in your video. Could it be because of the geographic location?
Yes, that’s right. Every location (even within the same country) has its own unique solar iridescence profile throughout the year.
Like others commenting here, I have only recently started wading through research to work out what may be best for me and have watched and read so much on this. Your explanations are great, very simple for a newbie to understand so I look forward to more.
One piece of information missing from every single video and article I have seen, however, is... How do you connect the solar system to the electricity supply in the house so your appliances use the electricity generated by the panels?
So, for example, on a simple system you have the panel -> inverter -> house. How does the inverter connect to the house supply?
I'm new and trying to self-learn everything electricity... Does it just plug in to a mains socket? Does the system have to be wired in to the domestic consumer unit (ie fuse panel) and therefore need a qualified electrician install? Something else?
I may be asking the wrong question, or the right question poorly 😂
Hi there Croi - thank you for the kind words on my videos! Now you raise a very good question and one that I wondered myself in the early days. It turns out that A/C electricity and the national grid system is a wonderful concept and happens to be pretty versatile.
Fundamentally, power stations of all kinds place power onto three wires (3-phase electricity) and these three wires are fed to homes all over the country. Each home is typically fed with any two of these wires (single phase) and you can have as many consumer appliances as you like attached to those two wires in order to draw power.
The really cool thing is that this is not just a one-way process. If you have your own power generator (e.g. solar panels) you can place power yourself onto the two wires coming into your house, and that power will either be immediately consumed by appliances in your house, or 'exported' out back to the grid. This is the magic of the inverter - it is connected directly to your incoming supply (those two wires) via the consumer unit. All the inverter has to do is convert the DC voltage of the panels into AC, and it does that by generating a sine-wave of the correct voltage and more importantly, the correct phase of the AC already on the two wires. If you want to get really technical, the phase has to be slightly ahead of the phase already on the wires so that power is essentially pushed onto it.
Ok, that was the long answer; the short version is that you simply connect the inverter into your consumer unit :-)
Hope that helps!
@@GaryDoesSolar Brilliant! 👏🏻
You could, if you were so inclined and had the time, create a course with explanations like that 👍🏻
Haha - ok, I'll consider this as a topic for a future video :-)
Hi Gary great explanation, your description in this video in regards ct contoller as your scenarios on the cylinder water tank, but I use electric emergence heater to warm my water and radiator. How do I getxthis ct controller You video had inspired me to get, ie panels, bird proof, battery, hybrid Inverter. Thanks
Great stuff :-) Now, the Controller unit I talk about at 9:47 is a solar diverter, for example Eddi or iBoost. Be mindful though, that with higher export rates at the moment, these units may not be financially viable. Good luck with your solar journey!
@@GaryDoesSolar thank u I did see that as I seen ur video on this thanks
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Thank you! :-)
Hi Gary - great stuff. Just made the move myself (1 week ago) and am now keenly watching the sun and the app to see how the system is performing. I will be linking to an air source heat pump in a few more weeks as well. We are doing some building work so this seemed like the time to make the leap.....the energy price hike came a bit later than the decision but just made us feel we did the right thing. Happy to share more detail with you should you wish. One point for your subscribers is to watch out locally for initiatives from buying groups aiming to get the price down. Up here in sunny Suffolk the local council launched "solar together" the aim of which was to help get the investment down by getting people into a group and going out to tender....sound familiar?! Seemed to work though - pricing was pretty good. Watch out for the flyers or emails from the council. Rgds Stephen
Sounds great, Stephen! Yes please - can you share more detail? I've heard mixed responses about ASHPs - but I guess if fitted in conjunction with solar, they make sense, given the electricity requirement. Did you also look at ground-source? Was that an option for you?
@@GaryDoesSolar yes understood ASHP was a bit of a gamble, but decided after some reading and some discussion to go for it due to the link with solar and using the energy in conjunction with battery(s). I did think of ground source but taking into account, time, cost etc went for Air. I cant remember now if there was the grant on ground source(?)...there is grant on ASHP (£5K) It will be interesting to see how the two work together and of course i will let you know. We cut off the gas on Monday - so we are half off the grid and now its a question of getting the usage of the energy correct - balance with sunshine/appliances/battery etc etc. I havent received my details for selling energy back to the grid as yet (can you believe it could take 8 weeks!)but I checked with Octopus (for the record - I think they are the best utility I have used) and with the tarrif I am on (agile) I am told I can get 7.5p for a unit sold back. I'm taking that with a pinch of salt just now - we will however see in due course. PS - are you in Berlin?
One more point looking below at some points - we are pretty well South facing and shade is not heavy. I understand there is an optimum angle for the panels at 38 degrees....not sure if that is back from verticle or up from horizontal?? And if you want to get super nerdy that angle will vary with the seasons!
I would have been in Berlin, but am in the USA so can’t go. Hope the show goes well 😀
Hi Stephen, great to hear you've gone solar. I'm looking to do the same - keen to know the specs of your system. Which panels and inverter did you go for?
Hi Gary, great video, presentation and diagrams. What software do you use to generate the diagrams, I've look around for a while and none seem that good, but yours are great, although I would imagine a lot of that is due to your ideas and designs.
Thanks for the kind words, Barry!
Ok, don't laugh, but it was all done in Microsoft PowerPoint with a blackboard background image :-)
@@GaryDoesSolar thanks for the quick response, as I suspected, its all with the person creating the presentation as opposed to the tools ;) Nice work!
Ground mount solar is also a huge option.
Agreed, if you've got the space for it. Not many people have though. I really like the idea of car parks being used to house solar - great use of otherwise wasted space, and gets the rain and sun off the cars.
Thank you for the very informative video. One question - if you have a solar & battery system and your Hybrid inverter is rated less than the peak output of the system, and is therefore clipping, are you able to divert the "clipped" energy into the battery? Salesman says you can, but I'm sceptical.
Hi Andrew, thanks for the kind words. Yes, you generally can if the battery is DC-coupled. Check with the data sheet of the battery in question. The clipped power can never leave the inverter onto the AC supply but it can be fed directly into the battery 👍🏻 A nice benefit of DC-coupled batteries 😀
Hello Gary. thanks for another informative video. I'm just starting my solar research & i've not found many videos dealing with 3phase residential supply. Can you maybe do a video regarding 3phase set ups? What is the better option 3x single phase inverters or a single 3 phase inverter? Do you split the solar array per phase or split the total array power across the individual phases? Have you done a review on the Canadian Solar EP Cube system? thanks alot. Ian
Thanks Ian - glad you're getting something from my videos. Now, I don't have any experience with 3-phase unfortunately, so can't be of much help :-(
Great videos, subscribed! I’m in the beginning stages of planning a solar system. Do you know if it’s possible to have a system where I can run mostly off grid along with battery backup, but also have the ability to either automatically or manually connect to the grid or a gas generator to recharge batteries when it’s needed? I’ve seen a few videos where you need to disconnect the battery set, then use a charge controller connected to generator. But are there components available to make this easier to do?Without having to disconnect the battery set. I can’t seem to find the answer anywhere. Thanks in advance!
Thanks - and I really appreciate your subscription! I'll keep the videos coming... With regard to off-grid topics, it's not an area I know too much about yet, but worth following this channel: www.youtube.com/@The_OffGridFamily
Nice simple video. I need a new house roof so, as an electrical engineering person, I have just spent 2 solid weeks mining through all the permutations of an in roof system and max out on surface area, inverters, optimisers, panels and batteries all with similar but not identical features. There are a lot of choices (too many) some better than others but software compatibility and support should not be overlooked as I see many complaints about "this stopped working or updating" needed software update etc etc and this can be overwhelming for someone who is not technically competent. Not convinced of battery way just yet, but UK Govt incentive to reduce VAT to 0% for a complete installed system should be taken advantage of. Payback under current tariffs is about 8yrs but if prices go back to 1yr it becomes less attractive. ...but I need a new roof so it comes at about 25% more than re-tiling. So Im looking to recoup 25% of an outlay which makes solar a no brainer.
Hi WA Jopek, thanks for the kind words re the video. This one was designed to just be an easy introduction, and I'll get deeper into the topic and all the complexities with future videos (whilst still hopefully explaining things well!) I can see you've got in quite deep already! I agree, unless you buy a ready-packaged solution like Tesla Powerwall (which, even then, has its own notables/issues) then you're in a world not too dissimilar to building your own PC - lol - what do you do when the component parts decide not to play nicely with each other and the installer doesn't want to know anymore?? Aside from that, you're definitely in a great position, having to deal with the roof anyway; essentially killing two birds with one stone. I'd love to hear how things go with whatever you decide for your installation, if that's ok?
@@GaryDoesSolar very early days but I will update. My fundamental problem at the moment is to get consensus on the configuration and optimum amount of panels and on which sides of the roof.
One vendor quickly replied (declining to quote) stating that they recommended only 6 panels on the front of the house but their minimum job was 8 stating according to Google earth that the other two sides would not yield much energy.
Another company quoted 15 panels 6+6+3 across all 3 sides.
A 3rd company quoted 6+6 across 2 sides.
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@@wajopek2679 when we wanted to add additional panels on a second roof to complement our existing 3kw system we asked for quotes from 6 suppliers, two didn’t even come back to us, two were discarded because with one I had more idea about pv than the sales person, the other quoted for more panels than could have been fitted to the roof. The other two were very close and ai chose one that said correctly that as our proposed new array would take us over 3.6kw production we would need further DNO approval.
That was in 2020 and given the recent explosion of interest in pv because of energy prices and delays in supply of materials getting a decent knowledgeable is now even more difficult. That said after doing the research, the resulting finished product does make a massive difference to your electricity bill. Good luck and I hope you find a decent installer soon.
Adding a Tesla Powerwall and the extra 1.3 kw array allowed us to cut our mains use by a thrift. It would have been more but we swapped our plug-in hybrid for a full electric bev.
Update on the previous post, we are thrifty but in relation to our reduction in mains use it was by a third.
@@lynnfisher4396 as they say, every penny counts......but today each penny now costs you a tenner.
Also remember your inverter plays a huge part. If you are fitted with 3.68kw inverter if your home goes above this i.e using a washer, dryer, along with normal base load you will most likely go above the 3.68kw meaning you’ll draw usage from your battery or grid. Not many installers explain this to customers.
Great point, Dan. In my next video, I’m covering all the equipment needed to go Solar. I’ll make mention of what you say - so easy to overlook when choosing a system! 🙏
The Inverter decides when to take from the grid. You may need extra hardware to control this.
Hi Gary, Given the current projections for electricity costs and inflation have you changed your position. My inclination is to go ahead and take advantage of the current Octopus Flux tariff while export prices remain high. Of course one worry is that if a lot of new installations start exporting to the grid it could become overloaded and the tariffs could be drastically reduced. One would need a much bigger battery bank to offset this. Mike
Hi Mike, so inflation is always a tricky factor to manage, especially as it has been so high lately. For example, one of looking at it, would be a financial investment of say £10,000 two years ago, would cost you maybe £11,500 today for the same installation (assuming nothing else happening in the market to reduce costs). One could argue that taking a loan now would be preferable than waiting another 2 years when inflation will increase those costs further, but of course the cost of those loans is more expensive anyway. So, personally, I prefer to look at inflation as "what things cost today" then forget about it.
Discounting inflation then, if I look at the market, I see that electricity prices are falling, but falling very slowly and they're still more than double what they were 3 years ago in the UK. Export rates are high, and many people are certainly benefiting from exporting all the solar they cannot use (and in the summer, that can be a lot! In my own case, I'm currently exporting 300-400kWh every month on Flux). I'm also hearing that equipment prices are starting to come down - essentially losing the premium they had from a market where demand totally outstripped supply. This, combined with the fact that there are more installers in the market now, and many more trained engineers to carry out solar installations, it is starting to bring the labour costs down too.
So, in summary, I don't think my position has changed - but every person needs to look at their own situation and requirements very carefully, spend a good amount of time looking at the numbers, obtain at least 2 (ideally 3) quotations based on the same equipment requirement (otherwise you can't compare) then hopefully take the plunge! :-)
Finally, you're right - as more and more residential properties export to the grid, unless the DNOs prepare for this, it'll cause bottlenecks. But, you know that's the game you're in if you're a DNO, so I'm expecting them to be getting on sorting out s strategy - because this train ain't stopping...
Sorry, forgot to cover your tariff point - I'm not expecting export tariffs to disappear or reduce in value, other than in line with decreasing import prices.
Great vid I’m thinking of going solar,quick question sorry not very technical minded,I have a gas combie boiler ,if wanted to heat my hot water say for showers would I only be able to use Ele shower,which I don’t like would I have to get a separate tank to heat water instead of combie boiler
Glad you liked the video, Kevin :-) I'm not an expert on combi-boilers, but I did find this article which might be useful to you:
www.homeserve.com/uk/living/heating-and-cooling/what-type-of-shower-works-best-with-combi-boilers/
One of the problems with having solar and electric showers is that a typical electric shower draws 9kW of power, but the solar installation will only be able to supply a maximum say 3.68kW (possibly more, depending on the inverter and array size) - so that means the extra power will have to come from the grid.
@@GaryDoesSolar thanks for that,think I will get rid of Ele shower anyway as I prefer one that runs of the gas combi ,
I downsize last year from a 4 bed detached to a 2 bed semi as kids have flown the nest so made sence just me and wife now,I’m paying around £140 a month gas ,Ele, at mo,have gas central heating and gas hob and water heated through combi ,wife does a lot of washing and does like the tumble dryer on ,she’s in all day the back of house is south facing with just the soil pipe sticking through it ,seen a company on here first for solar seem to have good reviews so try them first
Hi, suggestion to, wonder if you could make a video on solar panels plus equipment just to charge a car?
Hi Robert, thanks for the suggestion! I keep a list of ideas for new videos (currently about 12) and I’ll add this one to it!
Fantastic video. Really like the graphics. I have heard micro inverters are better on each panel than one inverter. Any thoughts? I find the buying solar experience very complex. Do I go with an energy supplier who I have heard of, or a company I have never heard of. I know you can answer that. It seems a very confusing market to get the right answers. Keep up the good work. I’m off to watch video 2 😀
Thanks for the great feedback, Michael - now, from your questions, I'm hoping that my second video answers them! If not, let me know! :-)
@@GaryDoesSolar Thanks Gary, the 2nd video we very helpful. I have reached out to some companies. The information you provided will help when talking to them
Good luck with your solar journey, Michael - please do let me know how it goes 👍🏻
What about having panels on an external panel mounting or scaffold (fixed or mobile) rather that house roof? Would you be able to share info on considerations for that (if there’s space outside but roof is not suitable?)
Are you referring to the EU JRC tool? There is an option where you can specify just that and get the expected solar generation for such a ground installation.
Hi Gary. Great presentation. However in your simple model changing an EV, it normally takes a minimum of 7kW to charge an EV on a Single Phase System.
Hi Campbell - thanks for the kind words on the video 👍🏻
On your EV charging point, i based my commentary on the Zappi charger in “eco” mode, which will charge a vehicle with whatever Solar there is, limiting as far as possible any draw from the grid. There may well also be a minimum charge rate of say 1.4kW. Perhaps someone can confirm as I don’t have an EV myself?
Can charge mine from 1.5kw on zappi charger. So I try never send power to the grid.
@@GaryDoesSolar I believe the type 2 protocol allows charging rates as low as 6A, which would be about 1,4KW. On the Zappi you can choose to suspend charging if the available energy drops below this, or just import the balance.
We've just bought a house which is North/South facing, so I'm starting to wonder whether the ROI on solar is starting to become attractive, also considering things like air-source or ground-source heating and perhaps even some wind power to help go off-grid a little more (lets face it, wind is more likely to be readily available in the UK that sun!). Wind turbines are a little unsightly that's the downside.
Yeah, a combination of solar and wind in the UK (and perhaps many other countries) seems to be a good mix. I agree, traditional turbines look unsightly - especially in an urban environment. I see there are some newer vertical turbines available, that are much more aesthetic and supposedly quieter? But what about the costs? I'm hearing turbines are not so cheap...
Whatever you do, don't attach one to your house or you'll never have a good night's sleep again.
Hi Gary. Thanks for this excellent explanation and easy to follow video. I may have missed it, but is your estimation of pay back period applies to solar only or solar with a storage battery? My local installer says there is a huge waiting time for Tesla powerwall and may only be available beginning of next year. So I may decide to go for the solar panels only for now, but I would miss out on the 20% vat rebate. Unless I consider another battery storage, but I quite the sleekness and simplicity of the Tesla.
Hi G LSC, thanks for the kind words. I'll try to keep this up with future videos! :-) Now, you raise a great point regarding batteries and return on investment. For solar panels only, you can certainly expect a payback of 5 years (or less) in the current climate. For batteries though, the business case is harder, not least because of the relative cost and the limited lifespan of the battery (maybe as low as 7-10 years). My estimations in this video were based on a combination of solar and battery, and it's the battery element that pushes out the payback period. That's not to say that batteries are not worth it - they are, but the *relative* return is lower than for just solar panels. One might ask, if I'm getting a great return with just panels, why water that down by adding a battery? The answer might come down to more than the money case, but also the freedom case - the freedom to use electricity when you want, rather than trying to get all the washing done while the sun is out etc. Regarding the Tesla Powerwall, I'm in exactly the same position as you. I like the way Tesla is approaching the problem and I think their technology will typically always be ahead of the competition (not least because of the immense R&D budget Tesla has). But Powerwalls are expensive and hard to get. And by the time you get a PW2, the PW3 will be out, and you may have wished you'd waited for that... So, my own strategy is to start with Pylontech batteries, which being modular, will allow me to add further capacity over time to suit my needs (and generally allow me to learn about how the technology works out in practice). Then, maybe in a year or two's time, once the market supply issues have been solved and PW3 has been released with all bugs ironed out, I'll likely buy one of those, and simply sell the Pylontech batteries (even used units will likely always be in demand). I'll then have a battery solution that will just take care of itself going forward (as my interest in day-to-day management will no doubt have waned by then). Hope this helps!
I forgot to address the 0% VAT point. It's great that the UK gov has zero-rated VAT on solar purchases, but they should also allow people to make staged investments as not everyone has the capital to get everything in one go, nor may they wish to even if they did. I can see the VAT scheme being changed accordingly in the next year or two.
Thank you 😊
@@GaryDoesSolar I have a 7KW Pylontech battery setup and they have lifespan on 6000 cycles so even at the worst case scenario of a cycle each day that is still 16 year. I've had solar since mid April which saw my usage go from 700 kWh in March to 574 kWh in April. I had the batteries installed early May and can now see the usage of 278 kWh. This is a 60% drop in the energy usage. Obviously the batteries make a huge difference. If we see 0.42p per kWh that could hit us in early 2023 then the payback will be dramatically reduced.
This is very encouraging, Andrew - Pylontech seem to have cracked the modular approach nicely as well.
hi Gary im particularly interested in your video on bypass/redirection of power to feed an emmersion heater. Yor figures suggested that for a singleton like myself wouldnt pay for itself? I had assumed that the eddi like myenergi suggest that we can use our solar power and still get paid the feed in tarrif. your video suggests that this isnt correct. Ill probably ask this again when I find the video. thanks in anticipation regards Colin
Ho Colin, here is a link to my diverter video: th-cam.com/video/1yAwgye-NVQ/w-d-xo.html
The only reason the payback is not so good for fewer people in the house is the relatively high cost of the diverter and installation against the level of savings that one or two people can achieve. Certainly adding a diverter won’t affect your FiT payments, but it’s just the sheer length of time to recover your outlay, that’s all 👍🏻
@@GaryDoesSolar ok many thanks
Great video Gary, I am retiring to Cebu Philippines in Jan '24, and building a bungalow with a Korean roof size 6m x 7m, what solar array system & battery would you recommend? thank you
Hi there, great news about your retirement plans. Now, I'm not really in a position to provide individual advice, (not least because of potential liability issues - even if that advice is given free - such is the world today). You're best to speak to an installer about that, or post a comment onto a solar forum (e.g. this one in the UK: facebook.com/groups/2197329430289466) Good luck!
Thanks Gary
How often are you planning on issuing these videos?
Also, are you going to cover three phase electricity?
Hi Mark, my next video should be live within a week or two (working on it now) and thereafter I'm targeting every 3-4 weeks depending on how much free time I can create for myself. The idea is that over time, the videos get deeper into the topic. My own house is single-phase, but I am interested in how three-phase installations differ from that. Might be a few videos away yet though... Is there are particular aspect you're interested in?
@@GaryDoesSolar I have a list…
- informing the DNO
- inverter sizing based on single / three phase (impact on DNO notification)
- AC or DC coupled battery (impact on DNO notification)
- balancing phases vs vector sum metering
I look forward to the next instalment 👍
Why?
Hi, we are in the early stages of considering a solar set up, our last years usage was 2500 kwh. The first person we spoke to said we will need 7 panels, a 3.6 kw inverter, and a 5Kw battery. We have an emerson heater, so we will be using that to heat water whenever possible. Does that size system sound right.
Hi Robin, unfortunately, l'm not in a position to provide advice, not least because of potential liability issues - even if advice is given free - such is the world today). You're best to speak to an installer about that, or post a comment onto a solar forum (e.g. this one in the UK: facebook.com/groups/2197329430289466) Good luck!
I wonder how much energy is required to make one solar panel. So, if energy is going up then, surely the price, to make a solar panel, will go up accordingly. If you live in an area that has less than 50% sunshine, all year round, and solar panels are only 20% efficient, that seems to me quite a low, overall total efficiency. If these panels are produced outside of the UK then, with fuel cost increasing this will also add to the cost of transport. So, those properties that are not yet fitted with solar panels, (4kW to 6kW typical) would be paying quite a sum for a complete system installation. As you mentioned, the possibility of energy prices are set to rise further then payback may never be reached.
My next video covers how to calculate the payback period, which might be useful to you. I think energy prices, although rising sharply at the moment will fall back to 2019 levels within 5-10 years because most of the generation by then will be solar/wind which is 10 times less expensive than fossil fuels are. Would you agree?
I would put 10 panels on the South and the other 6 panels on the North.
I guess it depends how much sun you'll get on the north facing roof. My next video will be looking at that for different locations in the world
I live rurally and have a heat pump, it’s a no brainier I’m getting it
Fantastic, and good luck with the installation! :-) I should look at a heat pump too...
I looked at solar recently and with 90m2 of roof in a SSW orientation in central Europe the estimate is it would take me approx 20 years to break even and start to make a saving.. not worth it.
Hi Bill, my next video is all about working out the costs and payback etc. It should be out in a week or two. If you're still interested, I'd be happy to have a chat with you on it, see if I can change your mind...?
And in South Africa Eskom wants to charge us hundreds of Rand more if we use under the average units per month or use solar . So under the present government in SA solar is becoming an impossible option to take when it comes to benefiting from the sun
It feels like we’re in a similar situation the the UK. Those who only use a minimal amount of energy are now being hit with a high standing charge, meaning their electricity bills, for example, will never be less than £15/month. It’s the same for those who’s solar setups cover all their electricity needs - there’s no escaping the current 50p/day standing charge. Utterly ridiculous government policy. I hope that governments wake up soon to how the world is changing - and how domestic solar/battery/EV has a pivotal part to play in the future of energy management.
@@GaryDoesSolar yes it's sad how the government take us for all they can . If the money went to what it should that cool but in SA the money just gets looted and things get worse .
Unfortunately around me all the installed quotes are 2x what they were 3 years ago, despite the hardware costs only going up about 30% so my plans are on hold until the realities of the financial situation starts to bite for the installers.
Hi Ed, I know the feeling. I was due to get my install on the 19th of this month but my installer was playing about. So I’m having to start again. Prices are certainly higher now. I’ve decided now that my next video will be about ROI. Equipment prices are higher now but energy prices are increasing even more rapidly. If only the UK government allowed zero-VAT on improvements to existing installs - that would allow people to start with just panels say then in a couple of years, add a battery. Less risk on the ROI, I’m thinking… Your strategy also sounds viable though!
I had similar problems myself what size system did you want and what was you qouted , i wanted a 4kw system with battery and bird protection first 3 wanted minimum 15k , one wanted 18.5k , eventually found a great installer did the full system all in for 13k with a 10 year full workmanship guarntee instead of the 2year everyone else offered me on top of the 25 year pannel and 10 year invertor and battery , had it in 2 months super happy
@@davidworoniuk183 - Hi David, any chance on sharing that supplier/installer's name? I'm looking to do exactly the same...!
@@philellis240 it was a firm called GEC POWER based in Newcastle but fit across the UK im in West Yorkshire
@@davidworoniuk183 - thanks David, I'm a lot further south than you down here in Wiltshire; my biggest concern is over getting the right (or wrong!!!) supplier/installer...😬
Great intro - can you pls get rid off the heavy metal sound at the start and end?
Thanks Clive - what would you like me to replace it with? 🤣
I will install solar to remove all of my bills.
Great to hear! You may not be able to cover ALL the bills over winter, but for the rest of the year, you should be in good shape to wipe most of them out 👍🏻
Two resins to invest in solar that no body ever mentions...1 backup for when the grid goes down 2 it adds value to the sale price of your house as electricity is only going to go up despite the green energy in the grid...add to that a ability to charge a EV and it's a no brainier!!!.😎💕🇬🇧
Agreed :-)
How can I contact you for advice? Obviously not for free.
Hi there - unfortunately, l'm not really in a position to provide individual advice, (not least because of potential liability issues - even if that advice is given free - such is the world today). You're best to speak to an installer about that, or post a comment onto a solar forum (e.g. this one in the UK: facebook.com/groups/2197329430289466) Good luck!
Very sorry, one more thing........
What is meant by the 'backup load' and the 'House load'?
Thanks again!
House load simply means the total power requirement for all the appliances in the home. Sorry, I’ve not heard the term “backup load”.
@@GaryDoesSolar thanks for the reply,
I wish I could attach a picture.
I'll try to explain.
I have an 8K Deye hybrid inverter.
In the manual (system work mode setup menu) there is a picture of the inverter connected to various devices/loads.
The picture shows the inverter connected to:
1) solar panels
2) battery
3) Backup load
4) on grid home load
5) Grid
I understand everything except the 'Backup load'.....not sure what they are referring to?
@humdrum3899 I’m thinking the backup load here refers to the load of the battery, but I’m not sure. See this link: www.franklinwh.com/support/articles/detail/what-are-backup-loads-and-non-backup-loads
@@GaryDoesSolar Hello Gary,
I'm new to the solar world......
A friend of mine has recently had a solar system installed, and I think the installers have done something 'odd' and would like to ask your opinion.
His installation is this:
22 longi 550W panels.
10KW 3 phase Deye inverter.
4 x 10KW LV Sun batteries.
Prior to his installation, he had 2 consumer breaker boxes with 12 circuits per box.....so a total of 24 circuits.
After the installation, the solar company had added a 3rd breaker box (with 12 breakers) below the other 2 boxes and marked it as 'Backup'.
12 Circuits from the 2 original breaker boxes (6 from each) were moved to the new, 'Backup' breaker box.
Tonight, he lost grid power (thunderstorm) and only the circuits from the 'Backup' breaker box worked (from the batteries I'm assuming).
A couple of questions:
1) I had assumed the inverter would supply 'all' circuits (via battery) should the grid fail.
2) If the above is true, why would the solar company install and move circuits to another breaker box that seemingly is only powered by the batteries.
I hope this is understandable....
Best regards.
@@humdrum3899 Apologies for the delayed reply (I am getting a lot of comments, messages and emails these days and it takes a while to get through everything). Now, unfortunately, I'm not in a position to provide individual advice (not least because of potential liability issues, even if that advice is given free - such is the world today). You're best to continue speaking to your installer, asking them the same questions, or post a comment onto a solar forum (e.g. this one in the UK: facebook.com/groups/2197329430289466). Good luck!
I must not live in a typical detached house then...
I'm currently using 13,000 kWh a year (not including the 5 megawatts the solar makes)
I see that increasing to 25,000 kWh when I get another electric car and switch to a heat pump.
The world governments see the writing on the wall. They will lose revenue from oil production. So the best way is to increase electricity costs.
Their approach to Fusion energy probably will not work.
Nuclear reactors is a fine for base loads.
In the end I see electricity probably stabilising around 50p per kilowatt
However, gas and oil will go up in price.
I predict gas will probably hit about 15p per Kilowatt or more.
The next thing they're going to go after is clean water.
Yeah, that’s quite a lot of energy use
Shame such systems are too expensive for most of us.
Hi agree, Andy. I'm hoping that things will calm down over the next 12 months, so that solar becomes a bit more accessible to more people. Of course, it was always be a sizeable investment, but hopefully the payback (and therefore the risk to capital) is manageable.
As a social tenant I am not allowed to install solar myself even though I would pay cash in advance. Is that fair and reasonable?
Sorry that you're not being given permission to install solar. It might not seem fair, but the property owner may want to keep things simple, not wishing to add extra burden.
In the winter , totally useless, my hydro bill is 1/2 of solar cost per year, no worries about warranty, maintenance, no up front expenses.
Sounds like you're in a very good situation, energy-wise, well done. However, the vast majority of people in the UK don't have access to a water source to generate hydro, but they are likely to have access to solar. Now, whilst solar generation in the winter months is low, for 8-9 months of the year, it is possible with solar to cover near all of the electricity costs. And in the winter, a battery can dramatically offset costs usage cheap overnight rates. My videos are here to help the majority save money.
It’s a real shame that there isn’t more help with renewable energy, the government offer £5000 towards a heat pump , why not offer that money towards solar ,etc ,
I totally agree. I have a fried in Spain who received financial support (rebates) not from the Spanish government and also the EU!
The UK has removed the VAT (20%) but really, they could do a lot more. It just needs some forward thinking. Hopefully the newly formed government (under Rishi Sunak) will make the right decisions on future energy...
I just realized I was paying 1st world energy prices on a 3rd world salary.
Huh?
Im tempted by solar and battery but the cost is truely eye watering, 12 grand for a 5kw system and 3 or 4kw battery?! Everyone knows when the government makes installation vat free, the installers just inflate their prices by 20% and the customer doesnt see any real reduction in price. Many people seem to have issues with the inverters packing up every 5 tears or so and costing nigh on a grand at current prices, are a further cost. There's also the cowboy factor so, if getting the more reputable suppliers, you end up waiting forever because they're fully booked. As for selling excess back to the grid at no more than 3 or 4 PENCE, someone is having a laugh.
I don't dispute anything you say here. And this is always the problem with any market where demand greatly outstrips supply. I don't know what the solution is, but I definitely see a role for government in making sure all actors play fair.
For your situation, I recommend you join a solar forum, like this one, where you can learn a lot and also check to see if the quotes you are getting are fair and reasonable: facebook.com/groups/2197329430289466
Gary, you are talking down to me, sonny. You have no understanding of this issue. You identify with the landlord right from the start and begin lecturing me on what is fair FOR THE LANDLORD. Try thinking about what is fair for the TENANT. A social landlord has a duty to be reasonable, where a private landlord might not. They are arguing that they do not have properly trained staff to inspect the installation and therefore forbid me to install. But, the court will probably agree that their failure to train staff is not a reason to deny permission. Further, I can establish that the qualifications of the installing company are extremely high in respect of safety. Thousands of houses have solar installations and I cannot find evidence of one single mishap. It would be unreasonable for a court to demand a higher standard of safety from a contractor working on behalf of a private tenant than it would for a contractor working on behalf of a housing association.
Jack, I can see that you’re frustrated about your situation, but try to refrain from personal attacks. You don’t know me so how can you make a determination on what knowledge I have or not?
I think it’s clear from my videos that I’m in favour of everyone getting solar if they can, including those in social housing. Especially as energy bills are going to increase rapidly again.
My only advice would be that you’ll stand a far better chance of getting what you want if you clearly lay out the benefits to the *landlord* of doing this (as opposed to taking a confrontational stance that you as the tenant have some kind of legal right). I wish you the best and hope that the landlord is persuaded by your point of view.
@@GaryDoesSolar It would be a reasonable levelling up exercise for the government to commit some ideas to law so tenants are not disadvantaged by this progression in technology. Unfortunately I doubt it would enter this government's collective head to do such a thing. It always seems that the less well off in society are increasingly disadvantaged.
''Cut Your Energy Bills in Half''?
What?! Do you understand how solar power works? You can do more than cut it in half, or less, depending on how many solar panels you install. OBVIOUSLY.
Talking about things that are obvious, if you’d actually watched any of my videos, it would be clear to you that I have a deep understanding on “how solar power works”.
I suggest you go and waste your time on some other channel because you’re adding zero value here.