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I really like EcoFlow products. I think in terms of innovation, EcoFlow is clearly a world leader in Solar Generator/Power Station Technology. The DElta Pro is a great solar generator. The only concern I have with their products is the lack of external fuses, or resettable relays to all the internal AC and DC circuits. I don't want to have to ship back my unit just because I blow a fuse inside by accident. I would encourage EcoFlow to make all their new products to have end user replaceable fuses and resettable relays (Breakers).
@@ARLGD Hmmmm ? Interesting. Do you have a link ? I have an EcoFlow River 600 Max that I really like using for all my portable power needs. However, I accidentally plugged an electrical 12 Volt DC air pump into my cigarette lighter socket and overloaded the output and blew a fuse. Now EcoFlow Tech Support wants me to ship the entire unit back just to replace a $2.00 internal proprietary fuse ! No way ! I refuse to do it ! No shipping huge nightmare hassle ! I blew another connector while charging from Solar, and I had to ship it back to replace that fuse ! It's really ridiculous if you think about it. Just send me the friggin' fuse and an instruction sheet in the mail on how to open up my unit and replace the fuse myself ! No packing ! No shipping ! To hell with that ! 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻😡😡😡😡😡
@@iammattjones There sure are fuses ! EcoFlow uses *specially designed, proprietary (INTERNAL) fuses. No relays, no user accessible, replaceable, or serviceable fuse case.* If you make a mistake, blow a fuse, *then EcoFlow expects you to ship your unit back to them ! Totally ridiculous !*
I really like what Ecoflow is doing they are definitely a leader in the industry. The solar generator segment vs traditional gasoline/propane genorators reminds me of EV's vs gasoline cars. The main problem with these Solar generators is the technology built in has outpaced current battery tachnology. There just isn't enough power dencity yet vs traditional fosel fuel generators. I was going to go for a Delta Eco flow setup at my house I checked my power needs and I needed 18 to 20KW. I priced out an Eco Flow system and it was close to 30K !! with solar panells and batteries plus the added gas generator to charge the batteries. We just couldn't afford that plus with the limited amount of circuits 20 was the max at the time it just didn't make sense. We ended up going with a traditional old school 22KW Generac setup "$16,000" that has worked well. I'm not bashing Eco Flow or other Solar Generators the technology is in it's infency and will become cheaper to manufacture and purchace over time. Right now I think it just comes down to cost and application, in that segment traditional fossil fuel generators win especially in the current ececonomic landscape. However I'm excided to see where the technology goes in the next decade or so I'm looking forward to the advances to be made.
Can the DPU simultaneously output 240V 30A while it’s charging off 120VAC? I saw you were charging from the wall outlet, but it didn’t look like you had any load attached.
They better have addressed that issue. I do use 2 Pros and the hub for manual home backup now. I was looking for DC generators or inverters, which would be inefficient and silly. I bet they did fix it....
I've asked the same question of another reviewer and he said yes but he also may not have understood because he just told me which outputs it had. Unless I misunderstood him. @ Tech Made Easy
Newbie here. I want something for just emergency power during outage. Do you charge these up by ac, then turn them off till needed. Can you cover them with thin cloth to jeep dust out ir would that overheat. Thank you for your info
Great info. Found this vid from your other Home Repairs channel. It is nice seeing an option for whole home backups that is an alternative to the more traditional gas generator. Will be reading up on these more.
based on the stats it looks like the trick we use on cheaper power stations of using a 48v Lifpo4 DIY battery on the low voltage solar input would still work as a cheaper way to expand battery capacity. it's also worth mentioning there is no commitment to buy the unit if you buy the coupon, in the terms it says if you don't use the coupon during the january 9th to feb 9th window then you can email them for a refund.
@@everydaysolar do you have a timeline on the video for the Smart Panel 2 on the other channel, would love to learn more about that and ways it can function, I think i'm gonna get one of those in panel Emporia units to confirm but I suspect i'd be able to power my house off of 2 of these DPU's.
@concentratedquattro just search on TH-cam the term DIY expansion battery for power station and you'll see plenty of videos on it. Biggest thing is just sizing the battery voltage based on your solar input limits of your power station, like for example the unit I have has a solar input of 12-60 volts so I can connect a 48v lifepo4 battery to the solar input on my power station, smaller units will be more limited.
Thank you so much for the speedy response. Just ordered the DP yesterday, already looking at expanding economically as well as hopefully utilizing more solar. @@DanielRichards644
From Hurricane Central Florida... running 3 (soon to be 6) Kickass 12v/170amp deep cycle batteries thru a 4/6 KW inverter. Charged w/ a Westinghouse 5,300/6,500 W gasoline generator. Just the 3 provides 6,120 Wh. Upping to 6 = 12,240 Wh. The first 3 + inverter cost $1,000 (US). another $500 for the second 3. Spent $800 (including delivery) for the gasoline generator 3 years ago. Point being, who's got the bang for the buck? For yet another $500 (+3 batteries), you got 18,360 Wh. On demand. For a $2,000 system. Works for me...
For sure you can put together a system that is cheaper than the DPU. Overall if your system gives you what you need and you were able to save some money than I am all for it. Although, a much higher price tag the LiFePo batteries should have a much longer life as compared to deep cycles batteries but just depends on the application. 👍
There can not be enough videos on this. Im seriosuly considering buying the DPU and SHP2 but man oh man do I have questions. And they wont even tell us the price yet. Keep the videos coming. Id really like to run these seamlesly with my house where the panel turns them on and off and back on when panels charge them back up. But I have concerns with larger appliances in my house like my dryer, water heater, and of course HVAC
An electric dryer would pull 30 amps, water heater similar. But your HVAC, without soft start(on AC compressor, or ground sourced heat pump) might not be able to start. The initial draw of the compressor would most likely be too much for something like this and way over 30 amps. You might also have to be careful with an electric range if all things were used at once, that could come close to 50 amps. I am looking at this for emergency back up, and I think that we would be restricted on the stove top to a few(2) burners or the oven. AC would not be used in an emergency, just the necessities.
The Thing I don't understand is in their own ad it said to charge off a generator it must be an inverter generator. I am thinking might be able to charge it with a regular generator if you use the EV charger adapter and a level 1 charger.
My biggest concern is concerning input and output wattage. It's kind of a complicated question but I'll try and keep it short. Problem: If delta pro (which I have) is inverting, I have a full 30 amps of output plus surge to work with. If the DP is charging on shore power, it stops inverting and charges from AC input. Now I have only 15 amps of output max to work with on the output of the DP which is reduced by the AC charging speed I have selected. Now my wife tries to run the air fryer and the DP shuts down. It frustrates me (and others I have read posts from) that ecoflow did mot make the full wattage output available at all times during all types of charging. Does the ultra eliminate this issue?
I understand your frustration with the limited output wattage during different types of charging. It can be inconvenient when you want to use high-power devices like an air fryer. However, the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series offers a powerful output of up to 2200W pure sine wave power via AC, with the capability to drive high-power devices up to 4400W. It also has a super-fast recharging time and multiple output ports for versatile usage. You might find it to be a reliable and efficient solution for your outdoor and home power needs.
Is there any way to have this inside my house (running my critical circuits) and also charge it via portable/folding panels in a power outage? How can I run the wires from a portable panel into my basement (that’s where my panel and reliance transfer switch are)?
oh yeah, for sure that would work. My plan for the garage I am working on which has a similar setup to you would be to use these to pass the cables through the wall amzn.to/40Pj4oG
Thanks for the comprehensive review. The market challenge with these large solar batteries is they have to compete with fixed whole home systems. $6500 is over $1 per wh. I don’t see that being competitive at home scale. At over 200 pounds it is not portable. And the battery will last perhaps 40 minutes at full load assuming industry standard 85% usable. So I’m not really sure what market they’re going for here.
A house should not need a full load all of the time. My house under normal load averages 15 kwh/day, (Min 11 max, 26(two AC units all time) over several years. So pulling 7200W full time is not normal for an average home. If you are pulling that type of load(30 amps constantly), then you would not be able to run this type of system (single unit) in your home. Maybe the smart home panel with 3 ganged units(with 5 batteries each) might be possible, but you would not be looking at a relatively inexpensive single unit. Even the 90 kw system(very expensive) would not be practical if you are pulling 30 amps constantly. Take a look at the average daily consumption on your electrical bill and find out what you really need on a daily basis. Then you have a chance at picking a system that can work for you. For me it would be an emergency backup system, where we would not be running AC, or drying clothes, if those loads are needed the generator backup system would be necessary for high load times.
@@gibblespascack1418 Agree. My home pulls about 1.5kW at a fairly constant rate for normal lights, fridge etc. If the AC of Heat kicks on then that is another 2500 or so added. On a 6100kW system I ran my whole house for around 5 hours though I did not run any major appliances at the time. They wife was blowing drying her hair for at least an hour of that. According to the power company my home will use somewhere from 15000 to 21000 in a 24 hr period depending on time of year.
Hello. Thank you for the informative video. If I understood directly, it is possible to use an adapter cable connect a female 20A straight blade 6-20R to a twist-lock L6-20P where the L6-20P connects to the EcoFlow? If so, are such adapters available for purchase? Thanks.
I have both the Delta Ultra and the Delta Pro. The delta Pro can fast charge off the 800 w Alternator in my car. Once the Pro is fully charged, could I use it to recharge the Ultra. Als, if ultra was down to 20% capacity, how long, if possible, would it take the pro to recharge the ultra. Thanks. Very interesting video. 14:4314:43
Question___ do the Individual Expansion Batteries have any Solar Input Ports. I have areas of Shade on our Yard. Thus solar input port at the battery can let me setup special purpose arrays like pointing directions. Im thinking the Ultra's 4000w solar input is for only One Big Array. Please indicate what ports are at the Expansion Battery
The low voltage (max 150V) and high voltage (max 450V) are both located on the top unit and not the battery slice. The expansion battery really will only have a plug to connect up with the other batteries and a lever of charge meter.
While plugged into 240v for charging, does it pass power through to loads while charging? Might answer the limitation on charging wattage to battery as it reserves some for loads.
I have charged the EcoFlow Delta Pro at that charger and it cranked up way over 1800W so I am sure we will get it up to 3,600W just need to get the latest firmware and talk to EcoFlow. I will pin the comment with what I find soon 👍
I have 2 Delta Pros with the dual voltage hub and a 10 circuit transfer Switch. I'm wondering if that can be integrated with the Delta Pro Ultra and the switch 2. Any information on that?
You could swap out your critical load center with the Smart Panel 2. We will be installing 2nd week in Dec and then releasing video 2nd week in January to line up with the product release for both Ultra and Smart Panel 2. More information to come 👍
This is a great video thank you. I have the ultra and Home panel two and I’m getting solar installed next week. However, the installer is telling me their panels have not been tested with the system so they’re reluctant to connect my roof panels to the system to help charge it, if you have any experience with roof panels charging the DPU ?
I have a question that I hope you can help with. Initially, I assumed that both the Backup UPS and Online UPS ports would use only grid power when my DPU is plugged into an outlet. However, I noticed that the Online UPS seems to draw power exclusively from the battery, while the Backup UPS draws power from both the grid and the battery. I observed this because, no matter which port I use for my appliance, the input is either zero watts with an output of 700 watts when using the Online UPS, or an input of 650 watts and output of 720 watts when using the Backup UPS. Clearly, the battery is being used in both cases, and there doesn’t seem to be an option to use grid power only. Did EcoFlow design it this way to account for the 0 ms and 20 ms switching times between the Online UPS and Backup UPS? I’d like to extend the battery life, so I’d prefer if the battery wasn’t used at all while the grid is available. Is the only solution to turn the system off and manually turn it back on during a power outage? That seems inconvenient. Am I missing something?
On the high input charging side are those MC4 connectors? I know on the low side you said it was MC4 >CP30. But what's on the other side? As I'm building my solar setup (piece by piece) I'd like to know what type of cables I will need to run into the house. Can you make your own MC4 cables? Or do you have to buy them at a set length?
I have the DPU with 3 batteries for 18 kWh and also the smart panel 2 . I have 12 Hyundai bifacial 395W panels that I would like to use to feed the DPU. VOC on the panels is 48.8V and the Isc is 10.6A. How would you recommend wiring it. I am also mounting them on the ground using 3 each of the EG-4 Brightmount. I really have learned a lot from your channel and appreciate any help you could give me.
I'm not familiar enough with the Smart Home Panel or SHP2. Is it possible to set your 12 (or 10) circuits to run on the battery until it reaches a certain percentage (say 20%) and then automatically switch back over to Grid Power? The second thing I would like to do is make sure that my Utility Company Peak Hours are always covered by the battery. 6am-9am in the Winter and 6pm-9pm in the summer. Can you schedule the SHP2 to do either or both of these things? Or does it have to be done manually?
Both great questions that I don't currently have answers to but will soon. We are scheduled to get everything up and running in Dec and then will share all the findings.
I have a 15k propane generator that does it all for me with no restrictions connected to a onan transfer panel. My only option I would like to add to this system is a battery that could handle my night loads so i could turn off the generator for the night. I was told that would be 25k and just too much money for the convenience. Im wondering if there are other options less expensive. I don't need lots of capacity I just need enough to get me through the night to keep my refers and refrigs up at night inc 220v for the 1 hp well pump for the toilet. i don't need anything else
Really looking forward to your next video (s) with the smart panel usage and also how traditional solar panels will work with this. Keep the great content coming!
Will do, the first Smart Panel 2 video will be published over on Everyday Home Repairs on Jan 9, just a heads up. I will do multiple other videos on this channel but if you want the earliest look make sure to check our other channel 👍. Thanks for the support!
Awesome system can't wait to see what this can do with updated firmware and all but I'm more curious about the delta Pro 2 I'm sure they have one coming soon it was a great unit but it needs some improvement for sure like as you said it's too noisy plus more power would be good 4500 watts but can't wait to see what they have in store for us
Is there a maximum distance that the solar panels can be from the EcoFlow Smart Panel? My house has a lot of trees around it so the panels would be away from the Smart Panel
What size will I need to run a swimming pool Pump 3 hp 240v variable speed pump Intelliflow Pentair model. this would be for everyday use for 10 hours max, and on occasion 3 hour run time for the Jacuzzi at night. Pump spec says: IN: 1x230v +_10% 50/50 Hz 14,2A 3.2 kW OUT: 3x0-230v 20-175 Hz 8,3A (Temb. 50 Deg. C / 122 Deg F) I want to place just 2 panels on top of my pool pergola by my pool equipment, so the wire run is less then 10 to 12 feet. What will i need in equipment to make this work? please help. Thanks Bryan
The panel video is completed and will be released on Jan 9, 2024 over on our other channel Everyday Home Repairs. I do plan on diving a bit deeper on this channel as well in the month of Jan on this channel. It is a pretty cool product 👍
@@johncarr123 I honestly really, really, like the Smart Panel 2. I think you will like it and definitely worth waiting until Jan 9 to see the video and make the call if it works for your setup. Also, check out Joel's channel @electricproacademy as he will have a more complete installation video on this specific panel installation.
I wish they would have installed an infinity plug on the ultra to make it compatibility with the smart panel V1 the V2 smart panel requires some serious work to get it installed.
are these robust enough for daily use of charge via solar and and drain or would it be better just to buy a charge controller and a battery from someone else
That is a good question. My plan is to install the smart panel 2 in a couple weeks and running this small house off the Ultra. I am trying to get the panels in place, and at least 1 extra 6kWh battery to be able to cycle this unit daily so I can monitor. More info to come 👍
Hi Scott...that Ultra is interesting; however, I'd need a 50a output in order to run my whole house. I currently have Generac 15K Gen connected to a NEMA 50a receptacle running into my main 200a panel using an Interlock Kit. I couldn't do anything with a mere 30a. Do you think they will make a 50a version?
The Ultra will have a dual voltage hub where the output is a NEMA 14-50. Unfortunately this means you will need to independent units in addition to the hub. I will be installing a Smart Panel 2 which provides some interesting options to a Smart critical load panel.
@@everydaysolar Kool Beans, Scott, but you said “to” or “two” independent units? If I go with the Ultra, I would add the maximum number of units via daisy chain. But are you talking about two power units (the top section) that will be needed to configure to 50a?
I assume it's the cost of the batteries driving the enormous retail price on these. If so, I'd like to know their expected useful lifetime (MTBF) and anticipated cost of replacement.
I do love your videos and find them instructional. EcoFlow makes good stuff, but there are some features it lacks. Compare it with EG4's 18KPV and you'll see what I mean. This is not a whole-home power solution. It's great for emergency only power, so you have to pick and choose what to power. Yes, the smart panel makes that easier, but you still have to compromise. 6KWh per unit is a good start, and I understand you can scale it up to 90KWh in $4K/6KWh chunks. Compare that with the EG4 PowerPro ESS (14.5KWh @ $9K) and it's a significant improvement in form factor and price. Finally, the EG4 18KPV has its own 200A built-in load panel, so you can feed an entire "whole house" 200A service. If you're doing the math, that means no need to pick and choose appliances. EcoFlow's website says it will power refrigerators and lights. Other than inrush current on the fridge compressor the fridge will use 1-3A and if you're using LEDs figure another 1-2A per room. That will happily run on a 15A service for a while, or twice as long on a 30A service. Still with only 6KWh you'll be done in under a day while you huddle in the heat/cold because no water heater no HVAC no heat pump, etc. If money were no object (in other words if EcoFlow or EG4 offered me free stuff to put a video together to help them move product) I'd go with 1x18KPV hybrid inverter, and 2xESS for 29KWh of storage. That will feed my home's 200A panel, of which we use a median of 30A throughout the day (Arizona heat = HVAC costs) for a good half day. Far better than 6KWh and 12 minutes.... If I've made a mistake on the math, let me know. LiFePo has yet to get to the point where it's a "great investment". Inverters are definitely getting better, with built-in ATS, load panels, solar charge controllers, and reasonable size and weight. Not EcoFlow's yet. - FYI I got to this video by following your unfinished basement GFCI + 2x4-gang outlet panel video. I disagree with not needing to run a ground wire. If something causes the conduit to dislodge you lose grounding immediately. Earthquakes, falling stuff, and even someone grabbing it to steady themselves during a fall will cause a preventable loss of grounding.
Edit: Other people noted that leg load imbalance may impact max load. This doesn't happen with EG4's gear. Does the Smart Panel 2 allow you to select which leg powers that specific breaker? If so, that's a win.
My ecoflow delta pro quit in 2 months. Contacted service they decided it was defective and now having trouble getting it shipped back. Ecoflow doesn't send me all the proper labels for returning it and Fedex refuses to ship it without them. I am not happy at all with all of this .
Very common with these overseas companies. Hate that you have to be put on trial to prove to them that they sold you a defective product. They are all the same. They can keep them.👎
Thanks for the feedback. I had great experience so far but that is also why I am getting the 2 Delta Pros powering my garage with a mini-split and the DPU running the house. I want to put them to a real test and see what my results are to help share with the viewers in a more endurance test.
I will have a multi-video series where I am installing the panels on a garage roof, installing the Smart Panel 2 (Electrician installed), and then bringing it all together. 👍
@ I didn’t get a reply but I will stick to a tried and true method which is a gas generator. In my opinion, battery powered is over priced and not ready for home use yet.
@@rashedsarhadi1803 Finally found someone that gave the answer I was looking for. According to this person, you can buy the $69 adapter and plug your 220V gas generator into the right side port to get 220V charging and at the same time all of the AC output ports on the front of the DPU will work.
So many questions 😵💫😵💫. I guess I'd say what's the cost just for the unit and how many of these have you installed? Seems like you've done a few of these or talked with the company a few times to get all this information
You could either bring it through a 30 Amp generator inlet or a much better (more costly) option would be the Smart Panel 2. I will have a video coming out on that in the coming weeks. The combo of the Ultra and the Smart Panel 2 is pretty sweet.
Do the add on batteries have any independent charge or discharge function? If not the unit will be overly dependent on the main unit. For me, that will be a deal breaker. I do own two Delta Pro units and love them so I am not a Eco flow hater.
The Eco flow Delts Pro units tend to discharge the extra batteries at the same rate, So when it dies, all batteries are at 0. that is probably why the back up generator starts at ~30% discharge. I would assume that a stack of Ultras would perform in a similar fashion. The 1800W charge limit seems to go along with this concept but there has been no mention of the Delta Pro smart generator being applied to the Ultra Series yet.
If you combine multiple inverters, does the available amps also go up? For example; with 30 amps from one unit, does adding two more inverters provide a total of 90 amp service?
2 ways you can go with it either the Smart Panel 2 which can take in 3 of these inverters or there is a dual voltage hub which will give you a NEMA 14-50 (50 Amp).
Yeah, I think this unit will be pretty compelling for RV’s and off grid applications. You can build your own system cheaper but many people prefer the plug-n-play nature of EcoFlow and other power stations.
Is it possible to limit the 120V input charging speed to say 1400W? Looks like it just goes straight to 1750W in your video; and most of our 120V outlets are 15A so I want to limit constant power draw to 12A or 1440W.
Ok, Running at 1700 to 2000 watts, how long will the EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra run with no charging connected to it? (In hours)That’s my concern. Thank you.
With only the 6kWh battery assuming no solar input you will only get 3 hours at 2,000 watts. Each of these units is expandable to 30 kWh if more capacity is needed.
@everydaysolar-ps3xg Have you tried charging with two chargers at the same time? Such as solar input and wall outlet 120/240 if so how many watts can take in ? "Is it possible to charge the battery without using the inverter?" Thanks
is this a good option for whole house backup into an interlock, but without the option of solar panels (way too many trees)? or would a better option be the apollo 5k or anker 3800?
The challenge is depending on your appliances and daily energy consumption most setups (without panels) will run for hours and not days. Having solar makes a whole house backup much more practical. You could also do the setup where you have a Delta Pro or Delta Pro Ultra and a Generator. Run the generator for and hour to fill up the batteries and then run your home off batteries silently.
@everydaysolar-ps3xg another benefit - clean, pure sinewave power to your electronics instead of generator sketchiness. I just wish these could do a/c coupling and my 2 solar arrays could operate and even charge the unit automatically while powered on and grid is disconnected. It feels silly running my 2 Delta Pros and none of my 8kW solar.
Seems like others have tried this in the past and from what I saw had encouraging results diysolarforum.com/threads/just-got-ecoflow-delta-pro-can-i-use-external-lifepo4-batteries-to-add-capacity.37848/
I haven't seen that mentioned but just thinking through it I think the Infinity port on a Pro is 120V at max 30 Amps and the Infinity Plus port on the Ultra is 240V at 30 Amps so there would need to be some type of adapter to split the Infinity Plus port into 2 Infinity ports. I will add that to future videos once I find out.
It sounded like you are going to post some other videos of your efforts with this unit on your main/other channel. Could you post something in the community section to let this channel know about the videos? Or post the videos to here also? Thanks for the information on this channel!!
Since the Micro Inverters would be inverting the DC power to AC that would pose a challenge bringing the output from the micro-inverters into the Ultra.
They are ramping for the product launch today at CES. So they are pushing the marketing side of things. Most of us get free products but at least in my case there is no additional sponsorship dollars so I can provide my actual experience. So far, I think EcoFlow is easily leading the plug-n-play space of portable power stations.
I believe I prefer Delta Pro and extra battery units in order to have some redundancy. Even more so if Delta Pro 2 incorporates higher solar input, lower fan noise, and flat extra battery connector cables.
Installing this Friday with Joel from @eletricproacademy. I will release a video on @everydayhomerepairs at a bit more of a high-level and then Joel will have one on his channel from a professional install point-of-view. Both videos will be published on Jan 9 or 10. 👍
That 1800w limit on EV and Generator sounds like the switch was set to slow rather than fast, Delta Pro exhibits that behavior, if it was set to fast then yeah something was off about that firmware.
@@everydaysolargood to hear. Have they improved the interoperability with other apps/ecosystems yet like how Powerwall now will be supporting SmartThings? I loved having my Delta Pros show up in HomeAssistant until EcoFlow purposely broke that and it hasn't returned.
@@KaceyGreen I will add that question to the list for the EcoFlow reps out at CES tomorrow - Thursday. I will probably include the answers to the questions in a community post here on TH-cam and possibly roll everything up into an update video over the next few weeks 👍
I had been using their products for a couple years and our collaboration started when I met them out at the International Build Show in Vegas last year. There is also a good chance they will reach out if you are making relevant videos and gathering views. Best of luck.
Yikes, battery fires are no joke. Did you have the battery isolated where it didn't catch the rest of the house on fire. This is something that I have thought about in the past.
@@everydaysolar I had it in the garage away from the wall acting as an UPS on a freezer full of beef and pork. The guy checking on my house walked right by it. Mercifully, his wife was in the car and saw the white smoke billowing out of it. Later, the unit with power on, display an overload error and then shut off. The replacement unit process only took one week AFTER I spent three months “lost“ in the new EcoFlow customer service system.
Does the ultra have better efficiency at battery to AC out put over a delta 2 and other ecoflows? Also does it suffer from the AC polarity issue of the Delta2?? Couldn’t use it to power our gas furnace without swapping hot for neutral wire on the furnace. Not practical as to go back to grid had to reverse it again.
I am not sure on the inverter efficiency of the Ultra overall and/or how it compares to the Delta 2. I will keep that on the list of future videos 👍. I heard a few of the Ecoflow early units had reversed polarity but thought that was the Delta Pro. Either way I would assume Ecoflow would correct this issue with swapping you out to a new unit. Did you try to get a new unit?
If portability is important, this is a great product. For the price and if using for home backup, this product is grossly overpriced for what you get. I can buy 64 304ah grade A EVE cells for about $6000 and that would give me over 62,000 watts or 62kwh of capacity. I can buy 2 EG4 6000 watt inverters hook them in parallel for a total of 12000 watts output and have all the same connectivity for solar panels and generator:) For the retail price of $12,999 for delta pro ultra and 5 6kwh batteries the Delta pro ultra can't compete with a home backup you could build yourself for $10,000 lol.
The units just went on sale today so we can actually see the pricing. I can get the Delta Pro Ultra with 12 kWh and a Smart Panel for under $9K. Not too bad but I agree if you want to DIY there are better options.
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Thank you for this upload. You’re the only one who put out a video that was well put together.
Thanks for the feedback 👍
I really like EcoFlow products. I think in terms of innovation, EcoFlow is clearly a world leader in Solar Generator/Power Station Technology. The DElta Pro is a great solar generator. The only concern I have with their products is the lack of external fuses, or resettable relays to all the internal AC and DC circuits. I don't want to have to ship back my unit just because I blow a fuse inside by accident. I would encourage EcoFlow to make all their new products to have end user replaceable fuses and resettable relays (Breakers).
Yeah EcoFlow keeps pushing the envelope which I think helps challenging the competitors where we all benefit. 👍
I agreed !
@@ARLGD Hmmmm ? Interesting. Do you have a link ? I have an EcoFlow River 600 Max that I really like using for all my portable power needs. However, I accidentally plugged an electrical 12 Volt DC air pump into my cigarette lighter socket and overloaded the output and blew a fuse. Now EcoFlow Tech Support wants me to ship the entire unit back just to replace a $2.00 internal proprietary fuse ! No way ! I refuse to do it ! No shipping huge nightmare hassle ! I blew another connector while charging from Solar, and I had to ship it back to replace that fuse ! It's really ridiculous if you think about it. Just send me the friggin' fuse and an instruction sheet in the mail on how to open up my unit and replace the fuse myself ! No packing ! No shipping ! To hell with that ! 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻😡😡😡😡😡
There are no fuses. It's sold state.
@@iammattjones There sure are fuses ! EcoFlow uses *specially designed, proprietary (INTERNAL) fuses. No relays, no user accessible, replaceable, or serviceable fuse case.* If you make a mistake, blow a fuse, *then EcoFlow expects you to ship your unit back to them ! Totally ridiculous !*
I really like what Ecoflow is doing they are definitely a leader in the industry. The solar generator segment vs traditional gasoline/propane genorators reminds me of EV's vs gasoline cars. The main problem with these Solar generators is the technology built in has outpaced current battery tachnology. There just isn't enough power dencity yet vs traditional fosel fuel generators. I was going to go for a Delta Eco flow setup at my house I checked my power needs and I needed 18 to 20KW. I priced out an Eco Flow system and it was close to 30K !! with solar panells and batteries plus the added gas generator to charge the batteries. We just couldn't afford that plus with the limited amount of circuits 20 was the max at the time it just didn't make sense. We ended up going with a traditional old school 22KW Generac setup "$16,000" that has worked well. I'm not bashing Eco Flow or other Solar Generators the technology is in it's infency and will become cheaper to manufacture and purchace over time. Right now I think it just comes down to cost and application, in that segment traditional fossil fuel generators win especially in the current ececonomic landscape. However I'm excided to see where the technology goes in the next decade or so I'm looking forward to the advances to be made.
yea, it has to make financial sense to get mainstream appeal
Can the DPU simultaneously output 240V 30A while it’s charging off 120VAC? I saw you were charging from the wall outlet, but it didn’t look like you had any load attached.
They better have addressed that issue. I do use 2 Pros and the hub for manual home backup now. I was looking for DC generators or inverters, which would be inefficient and silly. I bet they did fix it....
I've asked the same question of another reviewer and he said yes but he also may not have understood because he just told me which outputs it had. Unless I misunderstood him. @ Tech Made Easy
Newbie here. I want something for just emergency power during outage. Do you charge these up by ac, then turn them off till needed. Can you cover them with thin cloth to jeep dust out ir would that overheat. Thank you for your info
Great info. Found this vid from your other Home Repairs channel. It is nice seeing an option for whole home backups that is an alternative to the more traditional gas generator. Will be reading up on these more.
Yeah, EcoFlow has come a long way and will be interesting to see how these products continue to provide more capability at less cost.
based on the stats it looks like the trick we use on cheaper power stations of using a 48v Lifpo4 DIY battery on the low voltage solar input would still work as a cheaper way to expand battery capacity.
it's also worth mentioning there is no commitment to buy the unit if you buy the coupon, in the terms it says if you don't use the coupon during the january 9th to feb 9th window then you can email them for a refund.
Yeah, I was reading through the forums last night on that setup. Interesting 🤔
@@everydaysolar do you have a timeline on the video for the Smart Panel 2 on the other channel, would love to learn more about that and ways it can function, I think i'm gonna get one of those in panel Emporia units to confirm but I suspect i'd be able to power my house off of 2 of these DPU's.
Mind steering me to the thread on the DIY setup?
@concentratedquattro just search on TH-cam the term DIY expansion battery for power station and you'll see plenty of videos on it. Biggest thing is just sizing the battery voltage based on your solar input limits of your power station, like for example the unit I have has a solar input of 12-60 volts so I can connect a 48v lifepo4 battery to the solar input on my power station, smaller units will be more limited.
Thank you so much for the speedy response. Just ordered the DP yesterday, already looking at expanding economically as well as hopefully utilizing more solar.
@@DanielRichards644
That looks like a great unit, thanks for the video:)
Hey buddy, now all I need to do is buy that remote mountain cabin. Power source ✅
From Hurricane Central Florida... running 3 (soon to be 6) Kickass 12v/170amp deep cycle batteries thru a 4/6 KW inverter. Charged w/ a Westinghouse 5,300/6,500 W gasoline generator. Just the 3 provides 6,120 Wh. Upping to 6 = 12,240 Wh. The first 3 + inverter cost $1,000 (US). another $500 for the second 3. Spent $800 (including delivery) for the gasoline generator 3 years ago. Point being, who's got the bang for the buck? For yet another $500 (+3 batteries), you got 18,360 Wh. On demand. For a $2,000 system. Works for me...
For sure you can put together a system that is cheaper than the DPU. Overall if your system gives you what you need and you were able to save some money than I am all for it. Although, a much higher price tag the LiFePo batteries should have a much longer life as compared to deep cycles batteries but just depends on the application. 👍
There can not be enough videos on this. Im seriosuly considering buying the DPU and SHP2 but man oh man do I have questions. And they wont even tell us the price yet.
Keep the videos coming.
Id really like to run these seamlesly with my house where the panel turns them on and off and back on when panels charge them back up. But I have concerns with larger appliances in my house like my dryer, water heater, and of course HVAC
Someone on fb said it is about 5800
An electric dryer would pull 30 amps, water heater similar. But your HVAC, without soft start(on AC compressor, or ground sourced heat pump) might not be able to start. The initial draw of the compressor would most likely be too much for something like this and way over 30 amps. You might also have to be careful with an electric range if all things were used at once, that could come close to 50 amps. I am looking at this for emergency back up, and I think that we would be restricted on the stove top to a few(2) burners or the oven. AC would not be used in an emergency, just the necessities.
@@gibblespascack1418
Right about HVAC, that's when the 8,000 and 10,000 BTU small units come in handy in a crunch.
The Thing I don't understand is in their own ad it said to charge off a generator it must be an inverter generator. I am thinking might be able to charge it with a regular generator if you use the EV charger adapter and a level 1 charger.
You can charge off a regular generator but to ensure you don't damage the unit it is recommended to use an inverter generator.
My biggest concern is concerning input and output wattage. It's kind of a complicated question but I'll try and keep it short. Problem: If delta pro (which I have) is inverting, I have a full 30 amps of output plus surge to work with. If the DP is charging on shore power, it stops inverting and charges from AC input. Now I have only 15 amps of output max to work with on the output of the DP which is reduced by the AC charging speed I have selected. Now my wife tries to run the air fryer and the DP shuts down. It frustrates me (and others I have read posts from) that ecoflow did mot make the full wattage output available at all times during all types of charging. Does the ultra eliminate this issue?
I understand your frustration with the limited output wattage during different types of charging. It can be inconvenient when you want to use high-power devices like an air fryer. However, the Segway Portable PowerStation Cube Series offers a powerful output of up to 2200W pure sine wave power via AC, with the capability to drive high-power devices up to 4400W. It also has a super-fast recharging time and multiple output ports for versatile usage. You might find it to be a reliable and efficient solution for your outdoor and home power needs.
Is there any way to have this inside my house (running my critical circuits) and also charge it via portable/folding panels in a power outage? How can I run the wires from a portable panel into my basement (that’s where my panel and reliance transfer switch are)?
oh yeah, for sure that would work. My plan for the garage I am working on which has a similar setup to you would be to use these to pass the cables through the wall amzn.to/40Pj4oG
You don’t need an inverter or anything do you hook it up right to the high voltage where the solar panels go? How can I hook it up to the low-voltage?
Should I get a splitter and hook up solar and wind at the same time to the system?
Is the cord for the high and low PV the same?
Great Eco flow delta pro ultra test it out on TH-cam videos please show more 👍😎
Will do
Thanks for the comprehensive review. The market challenge with these large solar batteries is they have to compete with fixed whole home systems. $6500 is over $1 per wh. I don’t see that being competitive at home scale. At over 200 pounds it is not portable. And the battery will last perhaps 40 minutes at full load assuming industry standard 85% usable. So I’m not really sure what market they’re going for here.
A house should not need a full load all of the time. My house under normal load averages 15 kwh/day, (Min 11 max, 26(two AC units all time) over several years. So pulling 7200W full time is not normal for an average home. If you are pulling that type of load(30 amps constantly), then you would not be able to run this type of system (single unit) in your home. Maybe the smart home panel with 3 ganged units(with 5 batteries each) might be possible, but you would not be looking at a relatively inexpensive single unit. Even the 90 kw system(very expensive) would not be practical if you are pulling 30 amps constantly. Take a look at the average daily consumption on your electrical bill and find out what you really need on a daily basis. Then you have a chance at picking a system that can work for you. For me it would be an emergency backup system, where we would not be running AC, or drying clothes, if those loads are needed the generator backup system would be necessary for high load times.
@@gibblespascack1418 Agree. My home pulls about 1.5kW at a fairly constant rate for normal lights, fridge etc. If the AC of Heat kicks on then that is another 2500 or so added. On a 6100kW system I ran my whole house for around 5 hours though I did not run any major appliances at the time. They wife was blowing drying her hair for at least an hour of that. According to the power company my home will use somewhere from 15000 to 21000 in a 24 hr period depending on time of year.
On my Bluetti 200, first version, I added 2 external 5v fans, which prevents internal fans from turning on.
Nice little mod 👍
Great video. It’s much larger than I expected
Yeah, it is big and you really don't want to have to move it around much. I am excited to test out the solar and run some cycles.
Consider measuring the loads on each leg (L1, L2). Perhaps the test was drawing more than 3500-4000 watts from one leg and that caused the trip.
Hello. Thank you for the informative video. If I understood directly, it is possible to use an adapter cable connect a female 20A straight blade 6-20R to a twist-lock L6-20P where the L6-20P connects to the EcoFlow? If so, are such adapters available for purchase? Thanks.
I have both the Delta Ultra and the Delta Pro. The delta Pro can fast charge off the 800 w Alternator in my car. Once the Pro is fully charged, could I use it to recharge the Ultra. Als, if ultra was down to 20% capacity, how long, if possible, would it take the pro to recharge the ultra. Thanks. Very interesting video. 14:43 14:43
Question___ do the Individual Expansion Batteries have any Solar Input Ports. I have areas of Shade on our Yard. Thus solar input port at the battery can let me setup special purpose arrays like pointing directions. Im thinking the
Ultra's 4000w solar input is for only One Big Array.
Please indicate what ports are at the Expansion Battery
The low voltage (max 150V) and high voltage (max 450V) are both located on the top unit and not the battery slice. The expansion battery really will only have a plug to connect up with the other batteries and a lever of charge meter.
Really thinking about getting this. Great video!
Pretty slick unit. Check out the Smart Panel 2 as well which will be released with the Ultra next Tuesday, Jan 9.
Very informative video. Question: What solar cable is used for the high output connection? I thought it was the xt60/xt60i.
No the High Voltage uses standard MC4 connectors. Low voltage uses the XT60i 👍
@@everydaysolar Thank you
Can the DPU be charged by the ecoflow, smart generator?
I am not 100% but I will ask EcoFlow and include it in the pinned comment as I continue to learn about the product 👍
Yes, but only AC outlet, not DC outlet
Is it possible to hae multi outlet extension cord for each 120v and connect those extension cords for each room
While plugged into 240v for charging, does it pass power through to loads while charging? Might answer the limitation on charging wattage to battery as it reserves some for loads.
I have charged the EcoFlow Delta Pro at that charger and it cranked up way over 1800W so I am sure we will get it up to 3,600W just need to get the latest firmware and talk to EcoFlow. I will pin the comment with what I find soon 👍
How is this compared to GZ Yeti Pro 4000? Can't seem to find videos on the GZ.
The Ultra would a level up from the Yeti Pro 4000. I haven’t personally tested a Yeti Pro but just from the Specs the Ultra is more capable.
For balancing the loads is the 4 - 20a plugs L1 and the RV plug L2 like on gas generators?
I have 2 Delta Pros with the dual voltage hub and a 10 circuit transfer Switch. I'm wondering if that can be integrated with the Delta Pro Ultra and the switch 2. Any information on that?
You could swap out your critical load center with the Smart Panel 2. We will be installing 2nd week in Dec and then releasing video 2nd week in January to line up with the product release for both Ultra and Smart Panel 2. More information to come 👍
This is a great video thank you. I have the ultra and Home panel two and I’m getting solar installed next week. However, the installer is telling me their panels have not been tested with the system so they’re reluctant to connect my roof panels to the system to help charge it, if you have any experience with roof panels charging the DPU ?
I have a question that I hope you can help with. Initially, I assumed that both the Backup UPS and Online UPS ports would use only grid power when my DPU is plugged into an outlet. However, I noticed that the Online UPS seems to draw power exclusively from the battery, while the Backup UPS draws power from both the grid and the battery.
I observed this because, no matter which port I use for my appliance, the input is either zero watts with an output of 700 watts when using the Online UPS, or an input of 650 watts and output of 720 watts when using the Backup UPS. Clearly, the battery is being used in both cases, and there doesn’t seem to be an option to use grid power only.
Did EcoFlow design it this way to account for the 0 ms and 20 ms switching times between the Online UPS and Backup UPS? I’d like to extend the battery life, so I’d prefer if the battery wasn’t used at all while the grid is available.
Is the only solution to turn the system off and manually turn it back on during a power outage? That seems inconvenient. Am I missing something?
PS: If you can adequately answer my question, I'll thank you for your expertise by donating a little something something to your channel. 😁
On the high input charging side are those MC4 connectors? I know on the low side you said it was MC4 >CP30. But what's on the other side?
As I'm building my solar setup (piece by piece) I'd like to know what type of cables I will need to run into the house. Can you make your own MC4 cables? Or do you have to buy them at a set length?
Yep, right into MC4 and here is a video that will walk you through making your own MC4 connections. th-cam.com/video/VrKYlQPHfno/w-d-xo.html
I have the DPU with 3 batteries for 18 kWh and also the smart panel 2 . I have 12 Hyundai bifacial 395W panels that I would like to use to feed the DPU. VOC on the panels is 48.8V and the Isc is 10.6A. How would you recommend wiring it. I am also mounting them on the ground using 3 each of the EG-4 Brightmount. I really have learned a lot from your channel and appreciate any help you could give me.
I'm not familiar enough with the Smart Home Panel or SHP2. Is it possible to set your 12 (or 10) circuits to run on the battery until it reaches a certain percentage (say 20%) and then automatically switch back over to Grid Power?
The second thing I would like to do is make sure that my Utility Company Peak Hours are always covered by the battery. 6am-9am in the Winter and 6pm-9pm in the summer. Can you schedule the SHP2 to do either or both of these things? Or does it have to be done manually?
Both great questions that I don't currently have answers to but will soon. We are scheduled to get everything up and running in Dec and then will share all the findings.
@@everydaysolarany update on this? thanks
I have a 15k propane generator that does it all for me with no restrictions connected to a onan transfer panel. My only option I would like to add to this system is a battery that could handle my night loads so i could turn off the generator for the night. I was told that would be 25k and just too much money for the convenience. Im wondering if there are other options less expensive. I don't need lots of capacity I just need enough to get me through the night to keep my refers and refrigs up at night inc 220v for the 1 hp well pump for the toilet. i don't need anything else
Does the eco-flow alternator charger work on this? How long can it run a window air conditioner 500 watts AC?
If I plugged the DPU into a generator using the ac in, would it recognize when my generator turns on or will it charge both from the generator and pv?
I like it* thanks EcoFlow 😊 so you need 2 units for true home power. 60kw/h @ 10.8 kw 200amps output sounds nice 👌
Thanks for your video! BTW - new firmware came out today. I was able to get higher input (over 6,000W) on the 5+8 port.
Dang! Thanks for the heads up and that did crank up the charge speeds 🤯
@@everydaysolar That's great to hear it worked for you too. It also got rid of the brown icon on the screen.
Really looking forward to your next video (s) with the smart panel usage and also how traditional solar panels will work with this. Keep the great content coming!
Will do, the first Smart Panel 2 video will be published over on Everyday Home Repairs on Jan 9, just a heads up. I will do multiple other videos on this channel but if you want the earliest look make sure to check our other channel 👍. Thanks for the support!
Hi, I just purchased the Eco flow Delta pro ultra. Can I hook up a windmill to it to charge the system please let me know.
Can you use 12 volt solar panels with this; or just stick with 24 volts?
can I run 2 ac units, one 3 tons and the other 4 tons, plus the refrigerator? For how long
Thank you
This thing looks awesome! I appreciate the in depth video and look forward to your followups. Sub'd 👍🏻
Welcome to the channel, much more to come.
Awesome system can't wait to see what this can do with updated firmware and all but I'm more curious about the delta Pro 2 I'm sure they have one coming soon it was a great unit but it needs some improvement for sure like as you said it's too noisy plus more power would be good 4500 watts but can't wait to see what they have in store for us
I agree with you. I've been curious about the release of Delta Pro2. I'd like to see something with more power and over 2000 watts of solar input.
Is there a maximum distance that the solar panels can be from the EcoFlow Smart Panel? My house has a lot of trees around it so the panels would be away from the Smart Panel
I would say the maximum distance would probably be a little more tied to line loss you get from voltage drop. How far do you need to run the cables?
What size will I need to run a swimming pool Pump 3 hp 240v variable speed pump Intelliflow Pentair model. this would be for everyday use for 10 hours max, and on occasion 3 hour run time for the Jacuzzi at night.
Pump spec says: IN: 1x230v +_10% 50/50 Hz 14,2A 3.2 kW
OUT: 3x0-230v 20-175 Hz 8,3A (Temb. 50 Deg. C / 122 Deg F)
I want to place just 2 panels on top of my pool pergola by my pool equipment, so the wire run is less then 10 to 12 feet. What will i need in equipment to make this work? please help. Thanks Bryan
Holy smokes that's amazing, thank you for your video
You bet!
Can you release the video for the Smart Home II panel?
The panel video is completed and will be released on Jan 9, 2024 over on our other channel Everyday Home Repairs. I do plan on diving a bit deeper on this channel as well in the month of Jan on this channel. It is a pretty cool product 👍
Thanks really looking forward to the panel review. I have not installed my 1st edition smart panel and might wait for the review.@@everydaysolar
@@johncarr123 I honestly really, really, like the Smart Panel 2. I think you will like it and definitely worth waiting until Jan 9 to see the video and make the call if it works for your setup. Also, check out Joel's channel @electricproacademy as he will have a more complete installation video on this specific panel installation.
I wish they would have installed an infinity plug on the ultra to make it compatibility with the smart panel V1 the V2 smart panel requires some serious work to get it installed.
Great 👌 EcoFlow delta pro ultra
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Does the ecoflow smart generator work with the dpu?
are these robust enough for daily use of charge via solar and and drain or would it be better just to buy a charge controller and a battery from someone else
That is a good question. My plan is to install the smart panel 2 in a couple weeks and running this small house off the Ultra. I am trying to get the panels in place, and at least 1 extra 6kWh battery to be able to cycle this unit daily so I can monitor. More info to come 👍
I love Eco flow products. How long does it take to charged with 110 volt?
Around 3 hours
Hi Scott...that Ultra is interesting; however, I'd need a 50a output in order to run my whole house. I currently have Generac 15K Gen connected to a NEMA 50a receptacle running into my main 200a panel using an Interlock Kit. I couldn't do anything with a mere 30a. Do you think they will make a 50a version?
The Ultra will have a dual voltage hub where the output is a NEMA 14-50. Unfortunately this means you will need to independent units in addition to the hub. I will be installing a Smart Panel 2 which provides some interesting options to a Smart critical load panel.
@@everydaysolar Kool Beans, Scott, but you said “to” or “two” independent units? If I go with the Ultra, I would add the maximum number of units via daisy chain. But are you talking about two power units (the top section) that will be needed to configure to 50a?
30 amps is a lot... What are you running? Space heaters?
@@FullSendPrecision A well pump alone could pull half those amps on startup.I agree a 50 amp 240 would be good for whole house power.
I assume it's the cost of the batteries driving the enormous retail price on these. If so, I'd like to know their expected useful lifetime (MTBF) and anticipated cost of replacement.
I do love your videos and find them instructional. EcoFlow makes good stuff, but there are some features it lacks. Compare it with EG4's 18KPV and you'll see what I mean.
This is not a whole-home power solution. It's great for emergency only power, so you have to pick and choose what to power. Yes, the smart panel makes that easier, but you still have to compromise.
6KWh per unit is a good start, and I understand you can scale it up to 90KWh in $4K/6KWh chunks. Compare that with the EG4 PowerPro ESS (14.5KWh @ $9K) and it's a significant improvement in form factor and price.
Finally, the EG4 18KPV has its own 200A built-in load panel, so you can feed an entire "whole house" 200A service. If you're doing the math, that means no need to pick and choose appliances. EcoFlow's website says it will power refrigerators and lights. Other than inrush current on the fridge compressor the fridge will use 1-3A and if you're using LEDs figure another 1-2A per room. That will happily run on a 15A service for a while, or twice as long on a 30A service. Still with only 6KWh you'll be done in under a day while you huddle in the heat/cold because no water heater no HVAC no heat pump, etc.
If money were no object (in other words if EcoFlow or EG4 offered me free stuff to put a video together to help them move product) I'd go with 1x18KPV hybrid inverter, and 2xESS for 29KWh of storage. That will feed my home's 200A panel, of which we use a median of 30A throughout the day (Arizona heat = HVAC costs) for a good half day. Far better than 6KWh and 12 minutes....
If I've made a mistake on the math, let me know. LiFePo has yet to get to the point where it's a "great investment". Inverters are definitely getting better, with built-in ATS, load panels, solar charge controllers, and reasonable size and weight. Not EcoFlow's yet.
- FYI I got to this video by following your unfinished basement GFCI + 2x4-gang outlet panel video. I disagree with not needing to run a ground wire. If something causes the conduit to dislodge you lose grounding immediately. Earthquakes, falling stuff, and even someone grabbing it to steady themselves during a fall will cause a preventable loss of grounding.
Edit: Other people noted that leg load imbalance may impact max load. This doesn't happen with EG4's gear. Does the Smart Panel 2 allow you to select which leg powers that specific breaker? If so, that's a win.
My ecoflow delta pro quit in 2 months. Contacted service they decided it was defective and now having trouble getting it shipped back. Ecoflow doesn't send me all the proper labels for returning it and Fedex refuses to ship it without them. I am not happy at all with all of this .
Very common with these overseas companies. Hate that you have to be put on trial to prove to them that they sold you a defective product. They are all the same. They can keep them.👎
Thanks for the feedback. I had great experience so far but that is also why I am getting the 2 Delta Pros powering my garage with a mini-split and the DPU running the house. I want to put them to a real test and see what my results are to help share with the viewers in a more endurance test.
@@everydaysolaryou listen much.
Can smart panels switch on and off loads depending on battery voltage? What's the benefit?
What arethe dimensions of the Delta Pro Ultra invertor?
Can you use the eco gas generator with this unit? I know you can use it with the pros?
Does it charge from the outlet while outputting 240v?
That has no DNA from the normal "Delta Pro". They should have made a new name for it. Nor does it work with any of their other products.
Nice video. Will you make detailed steps, planning, and installation of DIY solar systems for home using this ecoflow delta pro ultra?
I will have a multi-video series where I am installing the panels on a garage roof, installing the Smart Panel 2 (Electrician installed), and then bringing it all together. 👍
@@everydaysolar nice. Will wait for that. 🙂
how does the inverter/battery combo unit operate in high and low temps? does it need to be in climate controlled environments?
The Ultra does have an internal heater which will help it perform in low temps and avoid any damage.
Will it allow charging from a 240V while using 240V?
Also, how long would it take to charge this unit with an additional battery using 240V?
@ I didn’t get a reply but I will stick to a tried and true method which is a gas generator. In my opinion, battery powered is over priced and not ready for home use yet.
@@rashedsarhadi1803
Finally found someone that gave the answer I was looking for. According to this person, you can buy the $69 adapter and plug your 220V gas generator into the right side port to get 220V charging and at the same time all of the AC output ports on the front of the DPU will work.
So many questions 😵💫😵💫. I guess I'd say what's the cost just for the unit and how many of these have you installed? Seems like you've done a few of these or talked with the company a few times to get all this information
I'm off grid, can this unit tie into my electrical panel?
You could either bring it through a 30 Amp generator inlet or a much better (more costly) option would be the Smart Panel 2. I will have a video coming out on that in the coming weeks. The combo of the Ultra and the Smart Panel 2 is pretty sweet.
@@everydaysolar Ok great, thank you
Do the add on batteries have any independent charge or discharge function? If not the unit will be overly dependent on the main unit. For me, that will be a deal breaker. I do own two Delta Pro units and love them so I am not a Eco flow hater.
The Eco flow Delts Pro units tend to discharge the extra batteries at the same rate, So when it dies, all batteries are at 0. that is probably why the back up generator starts at ~30% discharge. I would assume that a stack of Ultras would perform in a similar fashion. The 1800W charge limit seems to go along with this concept but there has been no mention of the Delta Pro smart generator being applied to the Ultra Series yet.
Can you use this to charge an ev with solar charging simultaneously?
If you combine multiple inverters, does the available amps also go up?
For example; with 30 amps from one unit, does adding two more inverters provide a total of 90 amp service?
2 ways you can go with it either the Smart Panel 2 which can take in 3 of these inverters or there is a dual voltage hub which will give you a NEMA 14-50 (50 Amp).
Is this good to set up in a camper im goin off grid
Yeah, I think this unit will be pretty compelling for RV’s and off grid applications. You can build your own system cheaper but many people prefer the plug-n-play nature of EcoFlow and other power stations.
What thermal camera do you use?
I got this one amzn.to/49Matap which works with the lightning port in my iPhone 14 but now I need the USB-C to work with my iPhone 15.
Great infos thanks, I sure do hope we still can charge 120v in while having the 240v going ?
yes, it supports that.
Cooling fans give me happiness..the sound of solar lol
Is it possible to limit the 120V input charging speed to say 1400W? Looks like it just goes straight to 1750W in your video; and most of our 120V outlets are 15A so I want to limit constant power draw to 12A or 1440W.
Yep, the max is configurable through the App 👍
Ok, Running at 1700 to 2000 watts, how long will the EcoFlow Delta Pro Ultra run with no charging connected to it? (In hours)That’s my concern. Thank you.
With only the 6kWh battery assuming no solar input you will only get 3 hours at 2,000 watts. Each of these units is expandable to 30 kWh if more capacity is needed.
@everydaysolar-ps3xg Have you tried charging with two chargers at the same time? Such as solar input and wall outlet 120/240 if so how many watts can take in ? "Is it possible to charge the battery without using the inverter?" Thanks
is this a good option for whole house backup into an interlock, but without the option of solar panels (way too many trees)? or would a better option be the apollo 5k or anker 3800?
The challenge is depending on your appliances and daily energy consumption most setups (without panels) will run for hours and not days. Having solar makes a whole house backup much more practical. You could also do the setup where you have a Delta Pro or Delta Pro Ultra and a Generator. Run the generator for and hour to fill up the batteries and then run your home off batteries silently.
@@everydaysolar yes, we have this for that. Champion Power Equipment 200961 2500-Watt Dual Fuel Portable Inverter Generator, Ultralight.
@everydaysolar-ps3xg another benefit - clean, pure sinewave power to your electronics instead of generator sketchiness. I just wish these could do a/c coupling and my 2 solar arrays could operate and even charge the unit automatically while powered on and grid is disconnected. It feels silly running my 2 Delta Pros and none of my 8kW solar.
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I have a Chins 48v 100ah smart lifepo4 battery could I connect it to the low voltage solar connector to charge this unit?
Seems like others have tried this in the past and from what I saw had encouraging results diysolarforum.com/threads/just-got-ecoflow-delta-pro-can-i-use-external-lifepo4-batteries-to-add-capacity.37848/
Ecoflow has changed the game with its new look solar generator, the a.k.a. Delta pro...
is it compatible with the current smart home panel?
I haven't seen that mentioned but just thinking through it I think the Infinity port on a Pro is 120V at max 30 Amps and the Infinity Plus port on the Ultra is 240V at 30 Amps so there would need to be some type of adapter to split the Infinity Plus port into 2 Infinity ports. I will add that to future videos once I find out.
I need to charge my tesla every night, but not to 100%, but at least to 60-70%, so how long will it take to charge at 7200 watts at 30 amps?
It sounded like you are going to post some other videos of your efforts with this unit on your main/other channel. Could you post something in the community section to let this channel know about the videos? Or post the videos to here also?
Thanks for the information on this channel!!
Can do 👍
Thank you!!!
Can this system operate the Ecoflow power kit system?
Nope, I do not think the DPU is compatible with the Power Kit.
Can you hook this up to panels with micro-inverters?
Since the Micro Inverters would be inverting the DC power to AC that would pose a challenge bringing the output from the micro-inverters into the Ultra.
Ecoflow seems to sponsoring so many videos lately.
They are ramping for the product launch today at CES. So they are pushing the marketing side of things. Most of us get free products but at least in my case there is no additional sponsorship dollars so I can provide my actual experience. So far, I think EcoFlow is easily leading the plug-n-play space of portable power stations.
What is the Inverter rated at in wattage and is it pure sine wave or modified?
7,000W continuous pure sine wave
solid state battery, is the way to go period.
Hmmm, isn't there only 1 or 2 option on the market for solid state? The one that comes to mind is from Yoshino.
@@everydaysolar In my line of work, when components fail, we replace them with solid state components. I'll be dead by the time they fail.
Can an EV charge w/the 14-30 240v output? It was not recommended with the double Delta Pro setup
Yes, you can buy a cable of L14-30 to 14-30 socket.
I believe I prefer Delta Pro and extra battery units in order to have some redundancy. Even more so if Delta Pro 2 incorporates higher solar input, lower fan noise, and flat extra battery connector cables.
Yeah, it will be interesting to see what the Delta Pro 2 brings to the table.
Interested in the smart panel 2
Installing this Friday with Joel from @eletricproacademy. I will release a video on @everydayhomerepairs at a bit more of a high-level and then Joel will have one on his channel from a professional install point-of-view. Both videos will be published on Jan 9 or 10. 👍
@@everydaysolar great thanks
That 1800w limit on EV and Generator sounds like the switch was set to slow rather than fast, Delta Pro exhibits that behavior, if it was set to fast then yeah something was off about that firmware.
Yeah it was just early firmware. Once updated the unit would crank at 6 kW if you have 1 battery and up to 7.2 kW if you have 2 or more. 👍
@@everydaysolargood to hear. Have they improved the interoperability with other apps/ecosystems yet like how Powerwall now will be supporting SmartThings? I loved having my Delta Pros show up in HomeAssistant until EcoFlow purposely broke that and it hasn't returned.
@@KaceyGreen I will add that question to the list for the EcoFlow reps out at CES tomorrow - Thursday. I will probably include the answers to the questions in a community post here on TH-cam and possibly roll everything up into an update video over the next few weeks 👍
You mentioned that EcoFlow sent that to you. What’s the process for that like?
I had been using their products for a couple years and our collaboration started when I met them out at the International Build Show in Vegas last year. There is also a good chance they will reach out if you are making relevant videos and gathering views. Best of luck.
This unit has so many issue? How come you never mentioned it ? Do you how many people asked for replacement.
My delta pro caught on fire when I was in Europe. I got a replacement under warranty but now I’m afraid to use it.
Yikes, battery fires are no joke. Did you have the battery isolated where it didn't catch the rest of the house on fire. This is something that I have thought about in the past.
@@everydaysolar I had it in the garage away from the wall acting as an UPS on a freezer full of beef and pork. The guy checking on my house walked right by it. Mercifully, his wife was in the car and saw the white smoke billowing out of it. Later, the unit with power on, display an overload error and then shut off. The replacement unit process only took one week AFTER I spent three months “lost“ in the new EcoFlow customer service system.
Does this have pass through charging.
Does the ultra have better efficiency at battery to AC out put over a delta 2 and other ecoflows? Also does it suffer from the AC polarity issue of the Delta2?? Couldn’t use it to power our gas furnace without swapping hot for neutral wire on the furnace. Not practical as to go back to grid had to reverse it again.
I am not sure on the inverter efficiency of the Ultra overall and/or how it compares to the Delta 2. I will keep that on the list of future videos 👍. I heard a few of the Ecoflow early units had reversed polarity but thought that was the Delta Pro. Either way I would assume Ecoflow would correct this issue with swapping you out to a new unit. Did you try to get a new unit?
If portability is important, this is a great product. For the price and if using for home backup, this product is grossly overpriced for what you get. I can buy 64 304ah grade A EVE cells for about $6000 and that would give me over 62,000 watts or 62kwh of capacity. I can buy 2 EG4 6000 watt inverters hook them in parallel for a total of 12000 watts output and have all the same connectivity for solar panels and generator:) For the retail price of $12,999 for delta pro ultra and 5 6kwh batteries the Delta pro ultra can't compete with a home backup you could build yourself for $10,000 lol.
The units just went on sale today so we can actually see the pricing. I can get the Delta Pro Ultra with 12 kWh and a Smart Panel for under $9K. Not too bad but I agree if you want to DIY there are better options.