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- Ichigo X Rukia is the most popular ship in the Bleach fandom. It is one of the most decisive factors for a lot of Bleach fans as to whether or not the series is good. And who could have guessed? IchiRuki shippers are behind some of the most toxic discussion and discourse in the anime and manga community. They hate Orihime! They call Ichigo a bum dad! Renji is a loser, honestly I lost count of the weird theories, so with the Thousand Year Blood War arc making its return, let's talk about it.
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But if you hate IchiRuki, why is Ichigo one of your favorite characters and why is Rukia one of your favorite female characters?
are u making fun of someone or is this like a real question ur asking me
9:14 Funny thing I noticed: That Redditor said "Rukia was the one that fixed his inner-hollow-taking-over depression by kicking his ass"
Umm... Actually, she is the one who made it worse. By cheering up Ichigo's and advise him to forget the depression and go forward with the "dont worry, you will eventually find the solution along the way" mindset, she gave Ichigo false hope and psuedo positivity, directly led to him getting the most humiliated reality checking in his life from Grimmjow, and even heavier depression. Only after that, Ichigo has learnt the costly lesson of "You will never truly resolve your depression without facing it directly and actively seek the solution", and go find the Visored. Guess who was by the side of Ichigo that time.
*Orihime.*
IchiRuki was always meant to be a failed ship, and IchiHime the canon one.
This guy explained it way better than me.
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They're good characters so I have no problem with them.
I hate the ship cuz i have friends,i know freinds when i see em
I like ichigo and rukia cuz they are great characters 🤣
hey where are the ichiruki comment from?? you know the comment from @LJK401
For me the ending of soul society was the biggest tell that ichigo and Rukia would not end up together. Because she tells him that she wants to stay in the soul society wich for me signaled that the two of them just belonged in different worlds. That is of course only my interpretation of that scene.
You have media literacy more like
@bushamo Thanks 😁
@@bushamo what video is the comment from?
@@bushamonah its just that most anime fans forget about the anime they're talking about (dont take this as an insult it still means you're better than average)
Things change, Ichigo or Rukia could change it.
I always find shipping wars like this funny, because it's like no one understands how hurtful they're being to the actual characters they're trying to ship. I guarantee you that if the characters were real people they'd be appalled by this shit. Orihime and Rukia would be looking at all of these stans in DISGUST.😂
But no, seriously, it's like no one actually cares about the characters and they just project their own tastes onto Ichi-- oh... Huh... Well, that explains a lot😂
They dont. Thats how shipping works.
I heard Kubo once said that he didn't want Bleach to focus on romance because there's so much more cooler things it has to offer. And honestly I wholeheartedly agree: I have never felt so infuriated ever since dipping my toes into the Ichihime and Ichiruki argument. And things like Ichigo's Getsuga Jujisho from the latest episode were so awesome.
At this point, I'm prefectly fine with both. I also decided a while back that I shouldn't judge those characters' decision and if they're happy I'm happy (despite being fictional people). I'd honestly be scared for them if they were real because there's just so much hate they have to deal with.
I found a video on tiktok of an IchiRuki shipper and their replies in the comments were so dumb. For example they said that marriage and having kids isnt always out of love replying to a comment saying that Ichigo and Orihime are married and that that is proof the ship is not canon. They also said that Renji did not care about Rukia at all showing that this person has no reading comprehension at all.
More proof for my argument that these people are indeed bitchless
Ah I know who that is. That MF is delusional as hellllll.
I already know mha’s fandom is going to implode in a more spectacular fashion than naruto, bleach, and Tokyo ghoul’s fandom did with their respective endings combined with how bad the shipping is over there.
I feel so bad for Hori
Frog girl best girl.
Horikoshi is gonna have a heart attack. 😂😢
@@bushamotalk about attack on titan and the ship war there
@bushamo I can tell many of the things you claim in the video are not true and I respectfully disagree. First of all orihime was not the one who motivated ichigo to go save rukia. Kisuke urahara already did that the previous day where he told ichigo there was a way to save him and he was motivated and snap out of his depression. In addition, during that grimmjaw fight even he said to ichigo him wanting to save her was bullshit and that he knew ichigo came to fight him because grimmjaw put a hole in rukia. In the fullbring arc orihime wasn't able to help ichigo at all because ichigo was depressed and kept thinking about rukia even having two poems about her stating those eyes I long for and and I wonder if I keep up with the speed of the world without you. Lastly, guess what are you forgetting when all of ichigo friends betrayed him he broke down and cry feeling hopeless with orihime doing nothing but watched. And guess what rukia was the one who save ichigo and snap him out of his depression. Rukia is the only one that stop his rain and is the ray of light that dries his black sun.
What a brave fool, I'll miss you G when you get ripped apart. RIP
(Great job as always)
Sayonara
Bleach is one of the reasons as to why I HATE shippers.
Personally
Mha and naruto for me
@@kannan07
Same with Naruto, Idk about MHA's fandom, because I never interacted with them.
Everybody is talking about Ichiruki and Ichihime but no one is talking about Ichisen 😔
TRUUUUU
I was confused on what that name meant
But me being confused was all part of his plan
Also no,aizen his 3rd dad🤣
I adore IchiHime, but Ichi/Sen was adorable too.
@@thebluerainbow MY MAN 🤝
As I’ve been saying to many other shippers in different communities, He has two hands and sharing is caring so not why sharing love between these ships within the fanfiction instead of becoming unhealthy obsession with which one of these girls is getting the tip and who “deserves” it more in the canon.
This
As a Ichiruki fan…..this video was super good, like god damn. Good shit 👍
Peak
Kubo completely borrow the relationship from YuYu Hakusho yet people still clinging to this shiping. Ichigo will not end up with Rukia, just like Yusuke never end up with Botan.
Also, it's common in old time shonen for MC to end up with anyone that shown to be head over heels with them first. Because I guess romance isn't the focus, and that's the simplest "romance" they can insert.
7:10 “Sasuke’s beard”
Accurate.
I’ve seen a lot of toxic anime pairings such as Kaneki x Hide from Tokyo Ghoul, Naruto x Sasuke from Naruto, Shizuo x Izaya from Durarara, Blake x Yang from RWBY, Denji x Makima from Chainsaw Man, Kagome x Sesshomaru from Inuyasha, Deku x Bakugou/Todoroki from My Hero Academia and of course, Korra x Asami from Legend of Korra.
I'm an IchiHime fan personally, I don't hate IchiRuki, but I like that Ichigo and Orihime are together, I always thought it made more sense. But you know i'm not thinking too deep into the relationship junk, i'm not even that far yet since i'm just watching the anime and not the manga. I'm hyped up for those fights, not who others think Ichigo should clap instead of the other 💀.
Reminds of that one time, literally 20 fucking years ago, when I was talking to a girl in DMs about FF7 and I told her that I liked the idea of Cloud and Tifa being together, only for her to have a meltdown and insist that it should be Cloud and Aerith, despite, ya know, the thing that famously happens to her in that game. What made this extra funny is that this girl normally used colored text, but she said that she was so mad and flustered, that she didn't even want to color her text as she yelled at me about how wrong I was. I dunno why that was so funny to me, she was so upset at the idea of Cloud and Tifa being a couple she just went "NAH YOU DONT GET MY AQUA BLUE TEXT FOR THIS, YOU"RE GETTING IT RAW"
It’s so sad how serious it’s treated
At least in that situation, you could blame it on her still grieving.
it's not even about "that", Aerith literally tells Cloud to not fall in love with her because her heart already belongs to another. It was never meant to be to begin with, and Aerith herself set that boundary
I mean... she passed away so...
I didn’t read early bleach I was watching the anime and started the manga in soul society so I didn’t realize they actually were cutting out orihime scenes in the anime. Likely cause they didn’t know Kubo was building her as a love interest until the arrancar arc.
The fact that it caused accounts on twitter to almost get banned because of someone claiming an Ichihime artist plagiarized their ichiruki work, when they both were using the same reference picture, everyone hopped in the Ichihime hate train and bullied the artist. People say its hate on both sides to try and misrepresent the argument. The hate is very one sided with few outliers.
Yeah honestly that was so wild
I find it so funny a ship like Ichiruki where the characters themselves are actually really nice to each other cause certain people to be so heated and make fan fiction or arguments that completely break the original characters into ntr, affairs, depression over the wrong partner, outright killing Orihime, toxic shit that would never happen…
But you look at a ship like Unohana and Kenpachi where they literally tear their throats out, blood, guts spilling everywhere, cutting each other in a bloody mess, and it’s one of the more wholesome ships in the shipping community 😅
What is this mlp/death metal fandom contrast
I mean,for zaraki he cares about 2 things
Cutting
More cutting
Why on gods name are you comparing Unohana and Zaraki compared to normal people like Ichigo, rukia and orihime.
I disregarded your entire argument the moment you brought those two up.
Mf bringing up the two people who's sole joy is fighting strong people even if it kills them
@@TheBlaze22b disregarding his entire point
@@TheBlaze22bi recommend staying in english class longer to work on your reading comprehension skills
@@TheBlaze22bHe didn't justify the unohana and Kenpachi ship he was just making an example of how the ships themselves contrast from the fandom
To be honest both sides are going at it. If someone ships ichiruki they have a right, if they ship ichihime they have a right. Just don't force someone to ship something if you do or if it's canon. Many fans in fandom will ship what they want despite there be zero romantic chemistry or chemistry teased. With Ichiruki, in my opinion was actually teased especially in the early seasons.
And Ichihime is teased in the early arcs as well!
@@bushamo You could also say that that's why fans critique kubo's writing. He made it out that either one of those ships could happen, instead of sticking to one
relationship. Also he never shut down ichiruki, he just said ''more than friends less than lovers''. So it makes sense why fans don't quite buy ichihime being planned. For me, ichiruki had more weight.
@@Thesilentvoice... did you watch the anime or read the manga? Very important here! Also watch the video!
@@bushamo Both. What I said stands true.
@@Thesilentvoice...I shall stand by your side on this matter!
Shipping has 0 to do with the narrative clues in a story. Often people ship people together because they like the characters nowadays.
Now a romance manga or anime is of course different because that’s the whole point but in a lot of shows we see these moments and we project our own feelings into, ichiruki being one of those situations
I just love how one of the novels confirmed Rukia and Orihime are actually best friends. Hell for Rukia's wedding the first person she called was Orihime. These 2 are besties while their fanbases are in an endless war.
i coulnt care less man. it was my childhood dream for ichiruki to happen. im just so frustrated XD. its sucks so much man. I just hate orihime and love rukia to the core. But it never happened sadge
@ArdaYavuz-id2cf there's always Fanart and Fanfiction for ya bud. It ain't wrong to like a ship, just don't be toxic about it
Lol this video pops up right after the Ichiruki’s where losing their minds after a Kubo Q&A got mistranslated. Basically someone asked if we’ll see more relationships from soul reapers with other squad members and Kubo said no we won’t see any more as it is hard to maintain that type of relationship. However the translator accidentally said no there a no relationships among any of the soul reapers. This lead all the Ichiruki shipper to think that Renji and Rukia got divorced and that Kubo was going to change the end of the story and make Ichiruki a thing because he “realized he made a mistake”. 😂😂😂
And then they realise that ichigo is a soul reaper
Yeah I saw that, they’re so cringe
That IchiRuki shipper? The same one who falsely accused an IH artist of plagiarizing THEIR stuff because they used the same reference. xD
@@thebluerainbow hol up what
@@thebluerainbow yup, the exact same. They also tagged Michelle Ruff the English actor for Rukia in one of their pieces and when she said the art was beautiful but the shipping of Ichigo and Rukia should've ended with the manga, they and their fans got mad and harassed her, threatened her, tried to dox her, and sent messages threatening viz to fire her. They've also said that if they could they would kill Kubo they would just because of the end pairing and that age doesn't matter if true love is involved when people brought up Rukia and Ichigo’s ages.
It's funny that when I watched bleach for the first time (if I'm not mistaken, the first episode I saw was Ichigo's fight with Byakuya), when I saw Rukia and Renji I thought "these two are going to be together" in the end was right
SAAAAME, and even watching anime, which was IchiRuki biased, I still ended up preferring Ichihime because I loved the characters and their chemistry, even tho anime tried to hide it, But I felt it in my core!!!
The moment Ichigo LITERALLY threw Rukia at Renji and told her "now YOU must protect her" was the moment IchiRuki was truly sunk. Ichigo is all but obsessed with protecting people, but he gave Rukia's protection to *someone else* - and to a guy who asked hjim to save her! That's not somethign he does.
HE DROPPED IT ON HUECO MUNDO THAT'S AS BAD AS ENDLESS JESS TELLING PEOPLE TO STOP AFTER SOUL SOCIETY
Didn't Kubo say in an interview that he didn't like what the anime did with Ichigo and Rukia? They added many more scenes that implied romance and Kubo didn't like it, because it wasn't that in the manga. Also, I started to read the Bleach manga from the beginning, since I only read the TYBW in manga and watched the anime up to TYBW, and I was shocked at how different Orihimes character is and feels in the manga. They literally changed entire scenes or just cut them out. If you are a person, who doesn't like Orihime, go read the manga. Also about the One Piece ships, Oda said that none of the Strawhats will end up together. So I can just imagine the One Piece shippers going wild, when Nami won't end up with Luffy etc, etc... And like the author shows that Ichigo and Orihime are married and have a kid and these dudes on Twitter post entire college essays about IchiRuki. I just want to see some Bleach TYBW news, not your bullshit. 😂😂Great vid, btw.
The only ship I support is my viewers X good video
Luffy gonna end up with meat
Luffy×meat
Zoro×booze
Nami×money
100% canon
Cleanse my eyes with bleach because IchiRuki is one of the worst ships i have ever seen.
Especially as a manga reader, I CANNOT understand the Ichiruki ship. It literally doesn't make sense even thematically.
I remember being a 12yo watching Bleach videos on yt and an Ichiruki shipper coming into my DMs calling me stupid and threatening me because I liked Ichihime and sending me Dounjinshi as proof 🤦♀
Oh god
You should have reported it to the FBI lol. They are the worst kind of shippers.
9:04 PAUSE.
What's that second tweet? Orihime's pursuit of Ichigo is what got her captured? Sure, it's her love that caused it. Never mind the fact that they kidnapped her for her ability to reject events. Or that Aizen could have used ANY of Ichigo's friends to lure him into Hueco Mundo.
They are like the zutara shippers in avatar the last airbender
If you have this much rage for Bleach shipping wars, you haven't seen how insane the Erehisu vs Eremika battles in the Attack On Titan Fandom have been, cause they are.........oh boy
Eh, I saw it.
@@bushamoplease made a video out of it
Also i'm part of that fandom the thing is about aot shipping is that who eren ends up with actually made an impact to the ending of the story.
If eren end up with mikasa meaning they ran away together and live their remaining life togther in solitude like in chapter 138, but this also mean paradise will be destroyed by the outside world. Meanwhile if eren ends up with historia it likely follow the anr theory with eren complete the rumbling destroying the outside world and being the father of historia baby.
Thing like this don't happen with bleach, naruto and other shipping war.
Either way,eren killed 80% of the world for being family zoned and is dead
Why does either of em matter,neither are gonna be canon🤣
Agree
That and the fact that most people that only watched Bleach's anime became Ichirukis (and/or hate Orihime) becasue of the whole damn mess of changes they made, and because Orihime never got her character arc to end in the anime. Becasue her character arc ends with Thousand-Year Blood War that never got animated until now, same with Ichigo's arc btw. They only saw her at her lowest in hueco mundo and the star of her rising in the Lost Agent arc. I hope that people start appreciating her more at the end of the anime adataption... or if you know, read the manga instead of the washed up anime (OST bangs tho). Also if you hate Orihime just because of shipping purposes because Rukia is your lord and saviour, she'll be damn dissapointed in you, becasue, Orihime, that's her best female friend, she was the first person in the human world that was invited to her wedding and the one that made her veil. Rukia would hate your guts.
Illiteracy is a curse
@@bushamoi guess but that’s really the studio’s fault. It’s not illiteracy it’s just people like tv more then books. It’s the anime’s fault. They did the same thing to other characters in the show
@@kirkskilling3249but then they should have the brains to check out what the source material actually had rather than talk shit about an author who actually knew what he was doing
Literally,when she saw as nodt's illusion,the 3 people she saw are people she views as siblings☠️
And you know who were the 3 people,her adopted brother,her best friend who's like her brother and her other best friend whos like her sister
@@kannan07 do you read the terms of service when you sign up for something or do you just press ok?
😅 The whole Shipping Wars business is one powder keg I PERSONALLY try to avoid when watching Bleach; especially since I like Orihime as a character.
Really not sure why people get so salty about her being "useless" or a "bad character" which I may argue has been dealt toward Chad as well.
And while both characters aren't as popular or win that many fights in the series, they both have moments that define their characters and shape them into who they are.
Tldr: Chill with the shipping stuff, kick back and just have fun 😊
Real
ichigo and rukia are basically brother and sister...
For people to realise that,you need to have good friends and some female.interactions
Shippers dont get that
Rukia even looks like one of Ichigo's sisters - Karin. Even has similar (but not the same) personality.
I started with the Anime.....bruh I KNEW orihime and ichigo liked each other. 😂😂I ve NEVER EVER thought that. As SOON as renji backstory in SS I was chanting RENJIXRUKIA!
Another factor is once we got into masaki with ichigo...and orihime brother I KNEW it was intentional. Orihime believe she was responsible for sora death..but once she started friendship with tatsuki and realized...it wasn't her and Dora wouldn't of wanted her to be sad.
Ichigo did the EXCAT opposite. Renji wanted to beat byakuya for taking rukia from him. Both grew up together and both hadthe opposite. Man shippers suck
Kubo actually told us ichigo doesn't feel a attraction. While in the Shiba, when he outright said " I don't like her like that,she gave me power to save me and my family.and now I will do the same and save her"
Don't tell this to the shippers,they gonna lose their shits
Also friendship is a foreign concept to them
But hey,when all they do sit in their gaming chair, righting fanfics and getting mad at others while "watching over" their discord servers,they are bound to have no friends
but finally He relize that the reason why he want to save her that much is because he want to see her smile again. Maybe you skip that part dude
@@lynndo1010 doesn't mean anything
@@kannan07 got problem in reading huh? You told the wrong reason why Ichigo wanted to save Rukia so I pointed out. And wdym by "Doesn't mean anything"??? Lol you even don't know what is the most important factor in love, that's mercy, always want the best for each other, want to see him/her happy. This relationship did that very well and I can't tell you there isn't romance factor in it
@@lynndo1010 see
You are the kind of person i mentioned in my frist comment
A friendless discord mod who thinks everything is love
Also,its almost like
You literally just ignored everything else ichigo said
He literally explains that the whole reason he's trying to save her is because he owes her☠️
And when the hell does he even say that he's trying to save her smile☠️
I have no complete context to this since I haven’t finished bleach but ima sit through this for my boy Busham0.
Big thank
Anime shipping is the most toxic infested well that's filled with sexually failed individuals. The whole point of the manga/anime is the action packed story, the lore along with the superhuman abilities and the clashes between the good and evil that wield them. Kissing and uwu romances are NEVER healthy debates or priorities in the fandom. I'd be more disappointed and broken if the One Piece treasure turned out to be something meaningless than if Nami didn't end with Sanji for example. Who cares about who gets to have sex with who compared to the entire essence of the world you're invested in?
i mean ichiruki is more about disregarding renji as a character than anything, if he was more liked by the fanbase ichiruki probably wouldn't be as big of a ship
People dislike Renji?
They don’t see the vision
@@LuigiMario-MuffetStan IchiRuki fans absolutely loathe him, they keep accusing him of being abusive and forcing Rukia to marry him. Bruh, did they read Bleach? Renji would immediately step aside and choose Rukia's happiness over his own if she loved someone else! Rukia wouldn't let him pressure her into marrying him.
@thebluerainbow I thought it was about the amount of times he lost a fight or maybe a lack of screen time. Where tf did they get abuse allegations from???
See, I'm smart. I ship both and stay de fuq away from everyone else. I'm happy to stay in my lil' corner and flip toxicity the bird, thank you very much.
same
Bleach got some issues when it come to writing. I’m more than willing to point them out, but straight up Ichihime isn’t one of them. Ichiruki shippers out here complaining about Kubo messing up the story and characters when we got glaring issues like him just making Toshiro a fraud after gassing him up and having some of these Captains do the dumbest shit imaginable like Rose explaining his bankai when he was fuckin winning so Ranji could look cool.
Well, yeah, duh, I knew from the beginning Ichihime was going to be the end.
That didn’t stoped me to fall in love with Ichiruki, though.
Finally someone puts into words what it's like dealing with ichirukis and also people who ship main x main
It will never go away muahaha! Though seriously some people are totally nuts.
If you've seen Camille's Harem's video, "IchiRuki Writer's Analysis", what do you think of her analyzes in her video?
I don’t think it’s very good. I’d have to react to it onstream for a full rebuttal but at that point it’s not worth
Honestly, as much as I like Rukia and Ichigo together…. I really don’t mind who they end up with since it’s sort of also makes sense
One thing i disagree on here is for bleach it does matter if he ends up with rukia or Orihime. due to the fact they only unlock hell arc because of orihime and ichigos kid having their powers fused together. Other than that i would say it doesn't matter
it’s not the fact that they ship ichiruki, it’s the fact that they are SO persistent on saying that ichiruki had any canon romantic footing in the story and bash anyone who says otherwise (even though kubo himself has said many times that he planned for ichihime and renruki from the start and that there is nothing romantic about ichirukis relationship but anyway..)
Yeah tbh it’s the biggest issue
You done attracted the wrong crowd 😭😭
Unlucky I think
As someone who doesn't know much about Bleach (new to it) I really liked Ichigo and Orihime... They look perfect for each other and I wanted them to be a couple... Didn't knew they'd actually get together cannonically 😂
I don’t care about Ichigo X Rukia.
But Ichigo X Renji? Hits different.🥵
TRUUUUUUUUUE
NGL, I love IchiHime but I think IchiRenji is hot. And RukiHime is adorable.
I personally would have preferred ichiruki but if kubo didn't want that i'm not about to bitch about his choice for his own story.
brother i dont know you but you will be missed
Honestly i started with the anime then jump to the manga, but even in the anime i always see Ichigo and Rukia’s interactions, as that of the Bond between siblings, Rukia being the older yet childish sister and Ichigo the rebellious kid brother, who’s grateful for the help and guidance he gets.
I'm an EX IR, I mean BIG . I knew it was over when the manga ending was announced. Also, there was a missed slang by non-Japanese readers that pretty much confirmed IH. So many IRs couldn't get that the scales were so against us. I said so and I was vilified like, lol “ you're not a true fan how DARE YOU blah blah”. It’s fuc_ing embarrassing to hear so many STILL wasting time and energy on something that sank years ago. but then again,IR’s were always masochists, I would know firsthand. Anyway, I was first and foremost a Rukia/Kuchiki STAN so my girl got it all at the end 😏. A mended relationship with her brother, the job, and the family she always wanted. 👍🏻😭👍🏻. Renji was very good-looking and he gave up a lot for her 🥺I saw that and hey cool for all Renruki who actually truly shipped them. Good on y’all. also Kubo didn’t fuc_up his hair at the end the way he did Ichigos 😂.
Bleach did have a lot of plot holes and did go on way longer than necessary there was a lot to reproach the writing about (Ishida never got his arc, like Kubo said he would) but ships not ending the way some would have liked is not it.
Good video btw 👍🏻
11:25 that was a whole comment...i thought that was a video description. These shipper as mad as mha fans DAYUM
Something kinda funny/depressing is many fans claim that Ichigo x Rukia is better cause they've got developing chemistry throughout the series. But i looked back and honestly, you'd be hard pressed to find a moment where they spend longer then a chapter around each other after Grimmjow fisted her gut.
Rukia and Renji deserve each other. They are both frauds
😕
People don't see that she's a huge loser like him, almost got eaten by fishbone after acting all superior and lost to Riruka like bruh.
Thank you for the twitter thread.
I feel personally attacked😅
ICHIRUKIA 4 LIFE!!!
You would think IchiRukis lost all credibility when at least two of them almost killed themselves from smoke inhilation when they burned their copies of Bleach...inside their homes. But no, here we are, they won't fuck off.
Also on Sakura: the wildest thing is unlike Bleach which was only supporting a ship via the anime from the director thinking FOR SOME REASON Rukia was more MARKETTABLE than Orihime (this was the actual reason, he though the tiny bitch would sell more merch than the big titty girl- and then Rangiku and Yoruichi outsell them both, weird how that works!), but NARUTO was written by a hack who CONSTANTLY hinted and teased on Sakura and Naruto because of how similar she is to Naruto's mom while burying Hinata (and every other female character) into the background until the spin off epilogue movie. And now Sakura is still a cool active medic ninja for the sequel series and Hinata is a stay at home mom who gets less screen time than fucking TenTen.
There's absolutely no proof of this
@@bunniesrunup You mean besides the pictures and people talking about it when it happened?
@@TactlessC they have no proof it's from ichirukis. It's a narrative ichihimes made up to make ichirukis look bad, may I remind u the general audience was disappointed from bleachs ending, not just ichiruki shippers
@@bunniesrunup they were literally posted FROM ichiruki accounts on twitter. a lot of people were critical of the series’ ending yes, but the IR fandom made it that their ship not sailing made the entire series trash. crazy how they’re still harping on about it to this day 💀
I prefer ichiruki, but some of the stuff i see online is ridiculous... especially the haters of ichihime or ichiruki. Like, damn. Just settle down and have a cup of tea. Ichigo has bitches from each race, and he could only marry one.
IchiRuki shippers 🤝 NaLu shippers
*THE MOST TOXIC SHIPPERS IN THEIR COMMUNITY*
What do the NaLu shippers be up to
@@bushamo they’re keep over asking that “is NaLu gonna be canon” that they can not even let Mashima finishes his story first also they still fighting other shippers such as Nali, Jerza, GrayLu, Gruvia
NaLu shippers aren't that bad, at least I don't remember them being. As to NaLu canonicity, it's probably's going to be canon. Asking a question isn't really toxic, is it?
At this point every anime has super toxic shippers/character fans :(
See I, an intellectual, simply ship Grimmjow with myself. Cat boy supremacy.
Here lies busham0 (he talked about ichiruki)
RIP
Unlucky
Ichigo & Orihime ended together, that's that, Kubo implied since the one shot, and the beginning, that they were going to end up together because they've always had liked each other, and a disappointing fact about the IchiRuki fans, back in 2016 when the series ended, some of them burned their manga volumes cuz they hated who ended up together in the end, I dont consider Ichiruki shippers real fans
I mean Ichigo made it clear when he spoke to Ganju
Bleach needs a fresh anime remake like i don't give a fuck like make the anime better
Are You salty that IR made more sense then IH?😂
Quite the opposite actually!
Keep coping
Why are IR shippers so pathetic?
This a good video it's nice to see Orihime hate start leave the fandom. I will say this I say a weird Ichiruki fan take where they said not only was Orihime useless to the plot but Chad as well. Well these Ichiruki fans are gonna tear you a new hope you survive your gonna need it.
The Chad video will be coming
I think for a lot of them, they have to call Ichihime badly written because otherwise they have to admit that they read the series wrong.
I'm an Ichigo X Rukia shipper soooooo
I’m so very sorry
@@ultimaboi2950 um ok
Wish you the best, I hope you get better soon 🙏🏿
@@shaminamina k
As long as you’re not a toxic one!
Ngl, I've never watched a single episode of Bleach, but Orihime seems like a better choice than Rukia😂
Lol
Without context ichigo looks like a pedo and with context rukia does in this ship
I feel bad for Rukia Kuchiki she had marry a fraud like renji and have his kid 😭😭😭😭😭😂💀💀💀💀💀☠️☠️
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Orihime is a great person and great character. Orihime and Ichigo are a great couple and I shipped them from the beginning even though I didn’t read the manga. I can’t stand IchiRuki and I can’t stand IchiRuki fans. Rukia is wayyyy older than him and I have plenty of other reasons along with that. Renji and Rukia are better. 🤷🏾♀️
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@@bushamo I just edited it because I forgot to leave that part out, but IchiHime is awesome and was my first ship next to Yoruichi and Kisuke and Gin and Rangiku!
The anime didnt create ichiruki shippers, lmao. Not only did ichiruki exist way before the anime aired, but the anime removed some ichiruki scenes aswell.
Im tired of this narrative, even kubo himself said on a klub outside a and a that he doesnt remember the anime pushing the agenda.
Lol
Quick question who would win a Bumblebee shipper or a IchiRuki shipper? I need to know.
IchiRuki shippers committed arson for their ship so
@@bushamo Dude please don’t ever change how you make your videos. I haven’t had this much fun watching a TH-cam video in years. Now a days everything seems so bland but you genuinely made my day better.
Not even gon hold you ichirukis scare me a lil like yeh ship who u want but it’s the selective bias and wilfull ignorance/agenda thats really polarizing and makes up the bulk of fanwar. Enjoy a series the way u want but u at least gotta be honest with urself lmfao
I'll never let it go!!
Let it go dawg
I'll die on the hill with you.
@@bushamo we can let it go but we don't have to accept the Canon pairings
The Bleach youtubers community (which I'm becoming....that's why my handle is this GOATED😊anyway, the
Aren't "Haters to hate"Because they actually like many series.. and those channels NEVER have seen a "hate" video except if they are talking about grifter eyepatch (who is a grifter) the channels correct misconception.
But OP HAS THE WORST
Hmm
Look at how Ichigo looks at Orihime and tell me he doesn't love her, I dare you!
I hate Ichiruki shippers so much
Same, and I just hate all the ntr stuff. Fans are just salty Renji got the W
@@rukiastopfanis you user name "rukia stop fan" or "rukias top fan"?🤣
I wouldn't say i personally hate all the shippers
But i most certainly do hate these shippers in insta
Mfs can't read and will just talk shit
@@kannan07 either one works 🌚
These IchiRuki people need to apply logic to stuff bruh. Even if you interpret Rukia being 150 as her being like a 15 year old teenager because of Shinigami ways of again 10 times slower...
Then bruh this dude Ichigo will be an old man on his death bed by the time Rukia will be a young adult. Of course this ship was never gonna happen, their dynamic aside, there are too many barriers between human and Shinigami.
First of all, I would like to apologize for my English, it is not my native language. And so, I would like to note that I, as a fan of ichiruki and a fan of bleach since 2009, almost never noticed insults towards shippers of other ship, how many insults poured out on me in your video. accept and learn to live with the fact that people perceive love differently. and please don't ignore that whole line of relationship development between ichigo and rukia throughout history all the way to fullbringer. and it's not necessary to say now that we (ichiruki fans) have been distorted by the perception of anime, because boy, many fans of this ship have not even watched anime and are only familiar with manga.
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IchiRuki best pairing
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Great video, someone finally said the truth
There should be more people like you on TH-cam
Big booba hime 🤦🏻
It does not matter if they say that it is toxic, simply the ichiruki was the best ship with development of the entire series and manga and the best that would have remained at the end, that is, the final arc of Bleach is the best, but its ending will always be remembered as bad and more with His canon ships that nobody liked, after all, let's go until you should know that Orihime did not deserve Ichigo and whoever saw the anime and the manga will know why.
Lol
Tbh rewatching this video I wanted to give my thoughts. I think Ichigo n rukia have an important bond. Rukias support manifests in what is meaningful actions and impact which is what a lot of ppl value in a relationship. Ichigo can clear his head thanks to rukia. She keeps him in line it makes for a healthy shipping dynamic. They understand each other well. I get it. it’s easy to headcanon them in love n enjoyable to do so from that perspective. but it’s just not “romance” n Kubo don’t think so either. I’ve always thought that if ur arguing Ichigo was in madly in love with rukia or sum then we would see that he fell that in the way he carries himself. His feelings for rukia would negatively affect his judgement and that never rlly happened and I’m not saying it has to be toxic to be convincing but I think it’s one of the biggest tells for the nature of their relationship
Tbh u can even see what I’m referring in regards to Ichigo relationship inoue. She was even often used to highlight Ichigos/hollow/ darker side- the opposite of hollow being a human and she was one of the characters most embolic of humanity it always seems direct what kubo was trying to thematically. If ur issue is that Ichigo didn’t show enough romantic interest then u could argue he doesn’t rlly show any objective explicit intrest in anyone. He just has a girl who likes him a lot he is shown to care ab her feelings to a degree or have her feelings affect him. To what is at least a sweet friendship where to protect each other. So is it crazy to say they get married n have a kid 10 years later? Not really! It’s not an issue of writing its narrative intent. It sounds tired but romance is really not focus of these series. Idk if this makes but imo just because a relationship or character dynamic has a romantic/ partial romantic context doesn’t necessarily mean its purpose in the narrative is romance. That’s not point that’s not gives it meaning and this applies to other pairings . Not every development made has to sum elegant romantic gesture which is constituted as “development” Ichigo doesn’t need to have a great expression of romantic feelings to tell that inoue is his love intrest nor inoue character validated by whether he did but that’s just my opinion
I mean you can see throughout the series how ichigo and inoue are coming closer with each other. Fullbring arc already is hinting that they visit each other. Ichigo knowing where orihimes home is ( chad didnt know this btw). Ichigo asking why she is fidgeting so much and mentioning its not her first time being alone with him in his room when she brought the bread. In the novel WDKALY karin is mentioning how orihime resembles masaki alot. Karin wouldnt know orihime that good if she didnt visit ichigo alot. So its slow but steady process if people would pay attention to little details like i mentioned. Took around 4-5years in-universe for ichigo to make a move on her at the end of the novel. And according to kubo himself they took their time and started formally dating when ichigo and orihime after college (though orihime couldnt go to college because she didnt have the money for it).
Ngl when i see someone saying they suddenly were married at the end than i have to wonder if they ignore all those timeskips.
@@stryperwolf1723 In reference to the conversation in fullbring Ichigo mentioned she’s was more likely to be stalked referring to that she has a lot admirers. So ye u are right there r subtle hints that relationship would delve into romantic territory but that’s not even why I value that their relationship within the narrative and the themes
Yes but can IchiHime beat Goku tho?
Yeah
Yes
honestly I had no idea how much context was missing and how much was added into the anime that wasnt in the manga. After this video I read the manga and I have completely changed my opinon about ichiruki. I still love rukia to death (she should have been with me in the end tbh) but I see ichihime was indeed the plan from the very beginning
it is
btw in anime thats his siseter they take her in
I’m going to miss you
Sayonara
I was just minding myself one day on social media then some Ichiruki moron insults my fav Orihime saying that Ichiruki is better and Oriichi is trash. Then I brought up the fact that Rukia is 50+ years old and Ichigo is 15-17. Their ship is basically pushing pedophilia. Then this person went off on a tangent so I blocked them. End of story.
Shipping is pointless, basically you are chasing your own tail and pursuing pointless arguments.
I mean, this ship is kinda non sense but most of all, it's these ichi ruki shippers that are delusional to the fullest that make it toxic.
I'll be honest never really cared about the shipping just found her simply not interesting to watch.
Orihime didn't have any good fights or engaging storylines by herself and was kinda boring overall with her being the standard princess in the tower heroine so I naturally gravitated towards liking rukia instead especially as she was the driving force of the story at the beginning and felt like a character who could exist without Ichigo due to her backstory being compelling while being able to fight well in her own right.
It just made rukia the more likable character with a far more interesting connection to Ichigo then orihime so I can see why people were disappointed in her and Ichigo not getting together as they got along really well anyhow for longer as well as the show started with both of them being in the front and center.
Make sure you read the manga!
@bushamo
Sure, I heard that she was way better in the Hueco Mundo arc which was the main decline in her character started in the anime so maybe she is more tolerable there at least in terms of the dialogue she has.
Tbh though my issue is probably more about the archetype her character falls into as well as her over all role rather then with the character itself so maybe she's just doesn't click with me.😅
Sure, like your precious Rukia was waiting during a whole arc to be saved . All I saw in your take of this is you dislike Orihime because she's not a fighter . A female character doesn't need to nuke bad guys to be likable
@belingagilles483
Being a fighter does help making a character more engaging while giving them an opportunity for focus and growth. You can be a good person all you want but it's boring to watch when that's your only real trait especially when everyone else is doing way cooler stuff which is more gripping as they are the ones actually getting involved in the fight and risking their lives at least imo.
If I wanted a pure of heart maiden I'd watch shoujo stuff instead but I am not I'm watching shounen which prioritizes action.
Sure rukia was in a similar position in the soul society arc but she already was a mentor to Ichigo and was an established warrior already while also being the centerpiece of the manga at the beginning as without her nothing would have been set into motion and afterwards she constantly gets involved with fights so she still does more then orihime.
Again I don't hate orihime nor think rukia is the best character in the manga it's just that orihime is boring plaine and simple while rukia from her role in the story, her backstory and through her fights is much more engaging to read as she can grab my interest by herself.
Orihime's only worth in my eyes is her relationship with Ichigo which is not a good basis for a character to center around one person alone and do pretty much nothing else especially when she doesn't do much besides being a cheerleader during a fight and only healing after the guy is half dead.
Rukia has her relationship with Ichigo, her brother and renji while also holding guilt over her crushes death which she had to work over as well as her role as a soul reaper all of which were interesting to explore throughout the story.
All in all yeah I am bias against characters like orihime I already admitted that but to me rukia is just the better character out of the two in general with a more interesting background, role and fights because, again it's an action manga, I don't really see any area that orihime beats rukia to be honest though again I don't know how different the manga was to the anime but I doubt they made the characters too different so my opinion still stands.
Ichigo should have ended the story single , that way there wouldn't have been so much chaos .
Nah I need the Kazui conception arc
This reminds me of the Pokéshipping vs Amourshipping wars.
oh god don't remind me