@@TheBikePilot I sure hope so because I'm looking to replace the Levo with this bike. My brand new Levo already has issues. Motor issues that is. So I'm looking into this bike as a replacement. The Levo feels great and lot's of fun, It's just not reliable. Besides, I've heard that the Shimano motor is considered pretty reliable which is important to me, at least on an E-BIKE
@@RobRidesEMTB - I would carefully film it (the unboxing) from more than one (probably 3) angle(s) because reboxing is going to an itch with a b in front of it.
No one ever appreciates proper BOX SKILLS until they receive a package that LACKS those very BOX SKILLS ...where you find yourself asking “Why the hell did they do THAT?!” “What they hell were they thinking?!” “WTF?!” ...Yes, I personally appreciate the engineering that goes into a well packaged item. 👍🏽
Way to go Rob! Great review and breakdwon. These are great bikes and high on the list with many others that shine. YT does a great job with design and components for the $$$. A big fan of YT E-bikes. Thanks for your support with this brand! Cheers!
I think YT nailed the seat tube angle on this one, which should really make a difference in climbing weight distribution especially for taller riders. I'm loving mine here in the Colorado front range where we have a lot of steep rocky climbs.
I wish I had purchased the DECOY over the LEVO now! The LEVO'S been out of service for WEEKS now after 7 or 8 rides and the loaner has no motor. Anyway, I love the JEFFSEY, but I like the BRONSON better. But I'd purchase another YT!! Thank you ROB RIDES EMTB!!! We appreciate it!
Great review. I just got my Decoy Pro 29 last week. A few rides in and I think it is every bit as good as the Levo Turbo Expert that I borrowed for a few weeks. The Levo motor is quieter. I also like the integrated electronics and iPhone app for the Levo... but the Shimano motor is way more reliable, the XT drivetrain is quite smooth, and I saved $2676 USD. The only items I didn't like out of the box were the saddle and the block lock headset. Otherwise, the Decoy is a solid build.
Agree Adam. The saddle I'd change but that's hugely personal try the Ergon SM-E amzn.to/2YUKutV . Will change your life... I'm gonna change out my SRAM for an XT on my Levo.
@@TheBikePilot I've got an SM-e on one of my bikes... solid saddle. I'm running SQLabs saddles on another bike. Great saddle. Planning to move the other bikes to SQLabs too. Also looking to swap the Codes for XT 4 piston brakes. on the Decoy. ==
Another good review. Digging the content. Did you happen to ask yt when we'll be able to buy a 2nd 540w battery or the larger capacity battery they talked about? Really really enjoying my decoy. Another battery would add so much to the bike. Nowadays thats almost considered standard equipment
@@RobRidesEMTB i asked on the forum after. Someone said they have stock of the 540w its just not listed on the site. I'll be emailing yt to check/fingers crossed. Pretty stoked now
Hey. Great work on your reviews. I know emtbs are made to be ridden but can you do a review on the walk/push mode up steep inclines on the different motors. Shimano, Bosch etc.... Thanks.
Great video Rob. Ordered mine last Sunday and can’t wait. It was in stock but still not shipped and was told it will take DHL 12 days to deliver it to the UK. No one can’t wait that long! After reading some of the comments here i’m getting a bit worried that all the stuff I heard about YT’s poor service might be true.
I bought a 29 decoy it took 5 weeks to arrive, it said it was in stock , dhl then lost the bike , absolute joke I was going to send it back I was so angry, but one ride changed all that , this is hands down the funnest bike I’ve ridden in 40 years of riding
george Steel thanks for the reassurance, hopefully it’s as good as everyone says. Shame YT can’t be as good with the comms as they are with their bike design.
12 days.... so fast😂 I ordered on April 15th..2020 it took them 8 weeks to send the bike, which was on stock ( confirmed by the telephone support) main excuse was corona, which I understand, except friends ordered a canyon at the same time and they got it in 12 Days from German to Switzerland. No further comments needed🙈😎🤙🏻
My Pro 29 it finally arrived, but while assembling I found the rear mech hanger seems to have somehow twisted and embedded itself into carbon seat stay splitting it open. No damage to the box or packaging, so assume it must have been shipped in this state. Emailed YT customer services with photos , still no response, so then spend 1.5hrs on hold trying to get through to them on the phone. Had to hang up as calls to germany aren’t cheap and i couldn’t face listening to that hold music any longer All pretty disappointing really.
@Brendan Tovey I think he is talking about the 2021 Decoy if you read it again. I want to buy a EMB but i am in limbo because new versions will be out soon of the Specialized and Decoy i am guessing and maybe with a bigger battery on the Decoy.
@@LouieNoodles1 Honestly apart from the brose motor, the spec on Specialized bikes are awful, lowest of the low its not even funny. Sram even market their NX groupset as being the perfect solution for your 1K bike! This is a 5K bike ffs. YT you get top dollar components from the off and the wheels and frames are carbon and look better imo.
Good morning Rob. I'm looking at the Decoy Shred but after watching your vid I think the 29er might suit me better for all round U.K. riding. Also, worth waiting for the new Levo Gen3 comp over the Decoy? I'd really value your input before I pull the trigger. Cheers! 👍🏻
Hey Rob. You say you ride a XXL YT. I believe you said your 6'3". I am as well. Just curious your thoughts on the XXL vs the XL for guys our size. Thanks man. Love your channel
Hey Rob, I am hoping to get your feedback as I have the opportunity to buy a used PRO 29 and have a question about sizing as I’m 6’3” as well. The bike that is available is a size XL. How did you get on with the XXL ? Did you try an XL ? Do you recommend I go with the longer XXL? Understand there most likely are variables ...........looking forward to hearing your thoughts........Appreciate it and enjoy the channel!!
Awesome bike for a good price but I am leaning towards a Levo Comp. Just for the LBS service here in a small town Canada. There is a long wait when ordering too.
Hi Rob good vid.. i just watched your vid on yt from last year nice looking bike!. Im asking same question as I'm a short guy 5.5.. do you know if frame shape & geometry stays the same through size range.. cheers Richard
_ Bamps_ That’s exactly my problem. I’m currently testing the Levo SL but it might be to less power for me. The Levo standard model is sold out in Germany so only Comp version available. YT headquarter is about 80km away from my hometown, but I love the possibility of connection (e.g. with Garmin) at the Specialized.
Would really like to know about rear suspension. Is it more planted vs poppy, is it more active for good climbing traction or high antisquat so it feels faster but sucks on tech climbs, etc. Great content BTW.
Cheers. In my first ride id say it's more planted. Only did short climbs in the Surrey Hills it felt good. Cant say more than that at the moment, haven't extensively tested it.
Been waiting for this review for a while. Looks a nice piece of kit. Definitely on the short list. Also Trek Rail and Commencal Meta Power 29 Any thoughts? Thanks Rob great vid as always 👍🏻
was about to buy this thing! really hard decision not do it. Had just no cash! No seriously, 145 mm seems like a bit too little? With a YT Capra and 170 mm I'm a afraid of having so little.. Yes great content thanks for that well made review!
@@RobRidesEMTB You are right. I'm just not a fan of mixed wheel sizes. I guess I have to wait until next years new line up, hopefully with a very quite brose motor. But I have to say, I was looking for a 160 mm on the rear with 29" front and rear and it is hard to find!
Showd thus to some of the lads and they all said, if it had of had the bosch system they'd buy one, I can see these older shimano system being sticking points for some people, I've chose the new focus jam2 purely because it's bosch
Great videos as always rob! 👍 Im looking at one of these test rode lots of lots ebikes cube, Merida 140 trek focus etc tend to struggle with fit I’m 6 foot and and 14.5 stone, struggling to work the sizing out for these with other bikes it’s normally just the feel of the bike it’s ether to short or I’m a passenger on the some XL versions any advise fella? My stomping ground is the Lake District so I’ll be riding all sorts. I’m also looking at the spectral on I really like the direct sale option. But obviously not being able to get on one is concerning me.
I suspect at 6 foot you';ll be perfect on the XL - although nothing beats being able to test one yourself (which is a bit harder for a direct to consumer).
I ride mostly trails that are medium in skill level. I would also like to do some downhill on occasion. Do you think I should go with the pro 29? I rode a carbon Specialized Levo and loved it. I rode a Trek Powerfly and it felt awkward. They are both out of my budget. I am 6'1" tall. What size would you recomend. Love your reviews. Thank you!
I'm 6ft2in and rode the XXL and it fit well. I would say you are in between as it depends on your legs to torso ration, but an XL is probably perfect for you. This bike will do everything your stating. It's very similar in fun/playfulness to a Levo, just not quite the range and motor power. But the spec for the money is excellent.
I’m interested in the xxl How tall are you And do those YT run small in sizes I’m 6’2” but a bigger guy I’m thinking a bigger bike better What do you think
I live on the edge of Dartmoor and tend to ride alot of moorland, bridleways, Greenlanes, natural single track and my local trail centres, would you say the 29er would suit this more or hang out for the mullet?
@@LIFEOFTYLERJPERRY 3 weeks back in June last year, brilliant bike thourghly recommend and alluate have Bosch motors and in reality we see little difference between them
Just a general question, when I hired a turbo levo last year; I found eco gave too much assistance; does mission control now let you set level to make assist feel like 10kg non ebike? Which is best levo hardtail or scott aspect eride 930. MTB not my main hobby, can only afford sub £3000 & Scott/Specialized fav brands with local dealers. 🚴🏻♂️
Yes you can totally tune Mission Control on an Levo. I do t know the exact settings to negate the weight but it’s on EMTB Forums. You may want to get a second hand one for that budget. Sill tuneable..
Try the BLEvo app, it has dynamic adjustment of the power based on how much leg power you put in. I have mine set so that below 180watts of my leg power it just gives 1% assistance. One I start going over 180watts the motor ramps up to 34%. That’s in Eco mode. In Trail mode it’ll start at 35% and go to 100%. Fully tweakable to your needs. I’m not sure any other bike/app gives you this amount of control. Check out the forum for more details on BLEvo...👍
@@RobRidesEMTB yes please, I think lot of people will consider these two bikes. This bike looks great, better spec then Specialized, but the battery should be larger, that is the killer thing in Specialized Comp
@@RobRidesEMTB Absolutely, im interested to see how they stack up not going down hill but on the up hill climbs, rocky rooty up hill trails, get them on some up hill climbs/trails in full power mode and lets see ow they stack up, im buying an email bike for those climbs and these two are what im looking at
@@RobRidesEMTB Yes please!!! A head to head would be great!! I've been looking at this bike even before I got the Levo which I'll be looking to replace . It's in the shop now after only 8 or 9 rides for 3 weeks now I love how the Levo rides!! I hate that the motor might keep failing!! And 3 weeks is a long time wait!!! Especially if this is a know issue!!! And because of this, regardless of how great the Levo feels, I could not recommend it.
YT warranty is a worry for me I think! Gonna be a right hassle if you've got to send that back to Germany. Their warranty takes long enough with normal bikes let alone ebikes.
For me too but they are string up a UK support center right now. Already had some dealings with the guy who is setting it up and he is great. Restored my confidence (almost) in dealing with YT after not great results with HQ. should make local warranty issues far quicker to resolve.
Definitely a top competitor to the full fat Levo. But the Levo SL is a totally different bike, up to 6KG lighter but less power. Depending on where you are riding will make a BIG difference to your experience. For super big climbs in BOOST the YT will beast the Levo SL. But on more undulating terrain with shorter sharp climbs the Levo SL can hold its own. And over the motor cut off limit the Levo SL is much easier to pedal.
Thanks. Since I am planning to buy a new bike I do look for a „natural feeling“ - ebike also for long travel and trail purpose (less pure downhill). Thatˋs why I will probably stick to the Levo SL. By the way thanks so much for your chanel and all the great and very informative videos. Always very interesting !!!!!
On their website it says xxl is for 6'3 and upwards. I friend of mine has the xl he's 6foot and fits him. I'm 6'4 and have had a go on it. It feels ok although I would like to try the bigger one. Shame there's no way to test ride them. Atleast where I live there isn't. 👍
I have just ordered this bike today, unfortunately YT don't have the Ghostship Green in stock in the size I was after, so ive had to make do with the black version. But I will be looking forward to your next review of the bike to see how you have got on with it, and if you have any recommendations on any kind of changes you feel would warrant the bike 👍🖖
Only thing I’d change is the front tyre to a MAX TERRA instead of the Maxx grip for better rolling ability. And I’d only do that after the front it worn a bit! This bike out the box is killer!!
Just got my pro race First ride out back home cleaned with hose pipe Display wouldn't load up just showing the shimano steps screen Removed battery and dried it out all good for now The duck doesn't like water 🙈
you put a nice filter on the videorender on the parts where you dont ride it - but it kills the real colour of the ghostship green - thats a pity, I would have loved to see that in reality
Glad to hear you think this is still a capable enduro bike I order this bike in the black magic version a few weeks ago and wanted the enduro but sold out so settled for this and plan on changing air cartridge out for 170mm in front how do you think that will change the feel of the bike? I’m more of an enduro rider and like my dh runs
I think it will slow the steering down, slacken it out, change the weight distribution a bit, and raise the BB height a bit. Maybe a 160mm would be a good compromise.
Hey Dustin. I’d ride it before committing to any changes. The whole design of this bike feels spot on and It feels like a longer travel bike than it is..Geo is spot on..
I'm selling my decoy. The service out of Germany is none existing. God help me if I get a serious problem. E13 parts suck and they should never be on a bike. I'd rides well but the shimano motor is just agricultural compared to the brose. You get good spec on decoy but that doesnt offset the terribly bad service. They didnt even put my bike together properly and it changes gear like shit. Also there is some fudging going here as they NEVER come UK brakes set up so this is a press bike.
It’s similar with Canyon, customer support is crap and I can’t be bothered to re-box and send to Germany for any repairs or service but it’s fine if you have a LBS that can help. That’s the bonus with Shimano motor being widely supported.
Matt X I got the same bike as in this video. Came yesterday. How has he got his charger boxed with the bike? Mine is still showing that it’s in Germany and hasn’t moved since Tuesday. Joke as I can’t use my new bike.
brassornament94 unfortunately buddy when couriers get involved it’s a lottery. It’s always a risk when you go straight to any manufacturer direct as they rely on another to transport to you It’s so bloody annoying but I’m sure they will sort it out ASAP
@@JittyLaRoot because this is clearly a press bike. Fact his brakes arent a mess says so. Germany cant even be arsed to set the bike up for uk riders so you end up with a mess of hoses. The charger also tends to turn up when ever the other carrier feels like it.
Decoy 29 - a SOLID addition to the YT ebike range. Someone I rode with said it was the best bike he's ever ridden @thebikepilot!!
Honestly, after another ride today. My fav bike of 2020 to date. Serious do anything bike..
@@TheBikePilot I sure hope so because I'm looking to replace the Levo with this bike. My brand new Levo already has issues. Motor issues that is. So I'm looking into this bike as a replacement. The Levo feels great and lot's of fun, It's just not reliable. Besides, I've heard that the Shimano motor is considered pretty reliable which is important to me, at least on an E-BIKE
Your reviews are so great. I think your doing the best reviews available for the Ebike mountain bikes. Thank you.
Can’t wait to see the re-boxing video!
Thats gonna be a 90 minute feature film.
@@RobRidesEMTB - I would carefully film it (the unboxing) from more than one (probably 3) angle(s) because reboxing is going to an itch with a b in front of it.
Great Rob - I'm getting excited too! You're really lucky getting new bikes to unpack and ride!
Cheers Brian!
I liked that you placed that white line perpendicular to the box at 00:01
Glad you noticed!
i never loose your videos !!
Awesome review - like this style of unboxing and quick review. Sweet bike for sure.
Thanks! 👍
Sweet! I just ordered one a couple of days ago. Gets here on Tuesday. I have taken Wednesday off of work. :D
Hope you enjoy it!
¡Mike B! Hope it turns up when it says dude. I still waiting on my charger. So annoying.
from the website? everywhere says sold out
What size did you get and how tall?
No one ever appreciates proper BOX SKILLS until they receive a package that LACKS those very BOX SKILLS ...where you find yourself asking
“Why the hell did they do THAT?!”
“What they hell were they thinking?!”
“WTF?!”
...Yes, I personally appreciate the engineering that goes into a well packaged item. 👍🏽
Lucky you Rob, my pro 29 turned up today, no tool kit, no charger.... no tracking... sure it’ll all be worth it in the end. 👍
No way! Where abouts you based? I’m sure I can get a charger sorted so you can ride this weekend?
Rob Rides EMTB based in Sheffield, proper gutted but I’ve got the invis to fit, they forgot to include the crank bro’s pedals n’all.
Hey Rob Rides Emtb! 2 vids in one day???? Wow we are lucky people! Have fun on the decoy! Keep us informed on its performance! Ride ride ride!
Cheers Eric! Hope all is well with you...
Way to go Rob! Great review and breakdwon. These are great bikes and high on the list with many others that shine. YT does a great job with design and components for the $$$. A big fan of YT E-bikes. Thanks for your support with this brand! Cheers!
Cheers Bob glad you liked the vid! And agree, good design from YT and an excellent value for money ebike.
Great vid Rob 🤙🏼. This bike with the EP8 on....definitely something to look forward to
Cheers Wim
Pause at 0.32
Did U say XXL !!!!!!
Holy shit!!
Finally a ebike for the tall chaps.
Yep, it's great for taller folks.
hey Rob, great short review. The only concern I have is related the battery. It will be very intresting to see a test as you did for the Levo SL.
I think YT nailed the seat tube angle on this one, which should really make a difference in climbing weight distribution especially for taller riders. I'm loving mine here in the Colorado front range where we have a lot of steep rocky climbs.
Yep, great geo on this bike.
I have the 29 Base Decoy. I love it. It's so nimble and agile compared to my 2018 Levo.
Got a 2020 Kenevo but its getting flogged as soon as 2021 Decoy is out!
You are the reason I ride the decoy, mullet bike, and was interested to hear your thoughts on this newer version.
Cool! Both great bikes.
I wish I had purchased the DECOY over the LEVO now! The LEVO'S been out of service for WEEKS now after 7 or 8 rides and the loaner has no motor. Anyway, I love the JEFFSEY, but I like the BRONSON better. But I'd purchase another YT!! Thank you ROB RIDES EMTB!!! We appreciate it!
Cheers Daniel
Word for the day
WELL USEFUL!
Great video, good job!
Glad you enjoyed it
Masterpiece of packaging ;-)
Pretty neat isn't it!
Unreal review. New sub. Keep it up
Thanks for the sub!
Great review. I just got my Decoy Pro 29 last week. A few rides in and I think it is every bit as good as the Levo Turbo Expert that I borrowed for a few weeks. The Levo motor is quieter. I also like the integrated electronics and iPhone app for the Levo... but the Shimano motor is way more reliable, the XT drivetrain is quite smooth, and I saved $2676 USD. The only items I didn't like out of the box were the saddle and the block lock headset. Otherwise, the Decoy is a solid build.
Agree Adam. The saddle I'd change but that's hugely personal try the Ergon SM-E amzn.to/2YUKutV . Will change your life... I'm gonna change out my SRAM for an XT on my Levo.
@@TheBikePilot I've got an SM-e on one of my bikes... solid saddle. I'm running SQLabs saddles on another bike. Great saddle. Planning to move the other bikes to SQLabs too. Also looking to swap the Codes for XT 4 piston brakes. on the Decoy. ==
Love it. Trying to narrow my first ebike between this, the Spectral:ON, and the Levo. Hard choices.
Decoy all the way. I've got cf pro mullet. It's a dream. 29er will be just as good.
Ashley Holland I hadn’t seen the straight 29. I’m more of a flow guy so I don’t need the DH bomber mullet 😂
@@joshuamcintosh1609 totally understand. Just saying they are all sweet bikes. Build and finish is fantastic.
Spectral:ON 7.0 because everybody wants a YT Decoy and you'll save a few bucks.
You can’t go wrong with a LEVO.
Just sayin’.
The bikes now come with the EP8 motor
That is one beautiful bike. Want.
Its a nice looker isn't it!
Another good review. Digging the content. Did you happen to ask yt when we'll be able to buy a 2nd 540w battery or the larger capacity battery they talked about? Really really enjoying my decoy. Another battery would add so much to the bike. Nowadays thats almost considered standard equipment
I'll try find out :-)
@@RobRidesEMTB i asked on the forum after. Someone said they have stock of the 540w its just not listed on the site. I'll be emailing yt to check/fingers crossed. Pretty stoked now
I found out- July 2020 here’s the link: www.yt-industries.com/uk/detail/index/sArticle/2272
@@RobRidesEMTB cool! Time frame works for me. Thank you
Great review Rob! Which bike would you choose for Surrey Hills? Mullet or 29'? Thanks
Hey. Great work on your reviews. I know emtbs are made to be ridden but can you do a review on the walk/push mode up steep inclines on the different motors. Shimano, Bosch etc.... Thanks.
Noted!
Great video Rob.
Ordered mine last Sunday and can’t wait. It was in stock but still not shipped and was told it will take DHL 12 days to deliver it to the UK. No one can’t wait that long!
After reading some of the comments here i’m getting a bit worried that all the stuff I heard about YT’s poor service might be true.
I bought a 29 decoy it took 5 weeks to arrive, it said it was in stock , dhl then lost the bike , absolute joke I was going to send it back I was so angry, but one ride changed all that , this is hands down the funnest bike I’ve ridden in 40 years of riding
george Steel thanks for the reassurance, hopefully it’s as good as everyone says. Shame YT can’t be as good with the comms as they are with their bike design.
Lots of stuff coming soon with YT and service - watch this space 👊
12 days.... so fast😂 I ordered on April 15th..2020 it took them 8 weeks to send the bike, which was on stock ( confirmed by the telephone support) main excuse was corona, which I understand, except friends ordered a canyon at the same time and they got it in 12 Days from German to Switzerland.
No further comments needed🙈😎🤙🏻
My Pro 29 it finally arrived, but while assembling I found the rear mech hanger seems to have somehow twisted and embedded itself into carbon seat stay splitting it open.
No damage to the box or packaging, so assume it must have been shipped in this state.
Emailed YT customer services with photos , still no response, so then spend 1.5hrs on hold trying to get through to them on the phone. Had to hang up as calls to germany aren’t cheap and i couldn’t face listening to that hold music any longer
All pretty disappointing really.
Is there a follow-up full review video? I can't find it on the channel. Great video BTW - and the fact you're 6'3 like me helps work out sizing
Cheers, now I feel REALLY bad buying an overly expensive Specialized! 2021 Decoy cant come soon enough.
@Brendan Tovey I think he is talking about the 2021 Decoy if you read it again. I want to buy a EMB but i am in limbo because new versions will be out soon of the Specialized and Decoy i am guessing and maybe with a bigger battery on the Decoy.
@Brendan Tovey Read it again but slowly...
@@LouieNoodles1 Honestly apart from the brose motor, the spec on Specialized bikes are awful, lowest of the low its not even funny. Sram even market their NX groupset as being the perfect solution for your 1K bike! This is a 5K bike ffs. YT you get top dollar components from the off and the wheels and frames are carbon and look better imo.
Good morning Rob. I'm looking at the Decoy Shred but after watching your vid I think the 29er might suit me better for all round U.K. riding. Also, worth waiting for the new Levo Gen3 comp over the Decoy? I'd really value your input before I pull the trigger. Cheers! 👍🏻
Serious “box skills” ha ha so true.
Yo! Now I want to see your take on Decoy Pro 29 vs Levo. Where does this one stack on your chart?
I think I will do a Levo vs Decoy 29 vid soon.
Hey Rob. You say you ride a XXL YT. I believe you said your 6'3". I am as well. Just curious your thoughts on the XXL vs the XL for guys our size. Thanks man. Love your channel
If you have any old mtb you dont use, I'm just here waiting haha
It is pretty, indeed
I agree!
Hi Rob, neat vid... What does the bike weigh ? How much torque does it muster ? Keep up the good work ! 👍🏻
Hey Rob, I am hoping to get your feedback as I have the opportunity to buy a used PRO 29 and have a question about sizing as I’m 6’3” as well. The bike that is available is a size XL. How did you get on with the XXL ? Did you try an XL ? Do you recommend I go with the longer XXL? Understand there most likely are variables ...........looking forward to hearing your thoughts........Appreciate it and enjoy the channel!!
Nice video....Rob did your order the bike with the front break at your right hand ? can you ask for it ? thanks
Awesome bike for a good price but I am leaning towards a Levo Comp. Just for the LBS service here in a small town Canada. There is a long wait when ordering too.
Service is a very important factor in ebike ownership :-)
Love my levo comp.. I definitely like the bigger battery. It’s easy to spend 4 hrs on the bike and the battery makes that possible.
Hi Rob good vid.. i just watched your vid on yt from last year nice looking bike!. Im asking same question as I'm a short guy 5.5.. do you know if frame shape & geometry stays the same through size range.. cheers Richard
Another good vid Rob! You still own your Turbo Levo? Mines still going strong! Had it wrapped satin black! Will get some pics on the forum ASAP
Cheers mate - no Levo for me at the moment, have the Levo SL.
So far if you had to choose one bike would it be Turbo Levo , Levo SL or decoy 29 pro?
_ Bamps_ That’s exactly my problem. I’m currently testing the Levo SL but it might be to less power for me. The Levo standard model is sold out in Germany so only Comp version available. YT headquarter is about 80km away from my hometown, but I love the possibility of connection (e.g. with Garmin) at the Specialized.
That's a nice bike. Way better than Specialized
Would really like to know about rear suspension. Is it more planted vs poppy, is it more active for good climbing traction or high antisquat so it feels faster but sucks on tech climbs, etc. Great content BTW.
Cheers. In my first ride id say it's more planted. Only did short climbs in the Surrey Hills it felt good. Cant say more than that at the moment, haven't extensively tested it.
Been waiting for this review for a while. Looks a nice piece of kit.
Definitely on the short list.
Also Trek Rail and Commencal Meta Power 29
Any thoughts?
Thanks Rob great vid as always 👍🏻
I got a trek rail to test right now. Vid coming soon.
@@RobRidesEMTB looking forward to seeing that 👍🏻
Cheers Rob , nice talk through . I want one even more now I’ve seen there boxing up skills . 👍
Box skills are strong 💪
Sneaking the video in 2 days before EMBN's version lol
Had no idea they were doing one... Right, fight, fight! Whose is the best?!!?!!?!
Rob Rides EMTB you are the best!
was about to buy this thing! really hard decision not do it. Had just no cash! No seriously, 145 mm seems like a bit too little? With a YT Capra and 170 mm I'm a afraid of having so little.. Yes great content thanks for that well made review!
145 is still very decent for what YT class as a trail bike. Perhaps the regular Decoy with 165mm will be better for you?
@@RobRidesEMTB You are right. I'm just not a fan of mixed wheel sizes. I guess I have to wait until next years new line up, hopefully with a very quite brose motor. But I have to say, I was looking for a 160 mm on the rear with 29" front and rear and it is hard to find!
looks like Yt have covered ever thing, will be interesting to hear your thoughts in 3 months.
Cheers David, will keep you updated
Hi Rob love the content i have only £3000 to spend on a bike, which is the best one to get with full suspension
I’d look at Vitus ebikes - amazing value for money with very good performance
Showd thus to some of the lads and they all said, if it had of had the bosch system they'd buy one, I can see these older shimano system being sticking points for some people, I've chose the new focus jam2 purely because it's bosch
Great videos as always rob! 👍 Im looking at one of these test rode lots of lots ebikes cube, Merida 140 trek focus etc tend to struggle with fit I’m 6 foot and and 14.5 stone, struggling to work the sizing out for these with other bikes it’s normally just the feel of the bike it’s ether to short or I’m a passenger on the some XL versions any advise fella? My stomping ground is the Lake District so I’ll be riding all sorts.
I’m also looking at the spectral on I really like the direct sale option. But obviously not being able to get on one is concerning me.
I suspect at 6 foot you';ll be perfect on the XL - although nothing beats being able to test one yourself (which is a bit harder for a direct to consumer).
Rob Rides EMTB cheers buddy the market is vast at the moment and is moving so fast! Cheers for the feedback and stay safe fella
hey Rob, how are you getting on with this decoy? Haven't seen much of it since this vid..?
1:40 you don't need to take pictures.. you have an entire video :D
Please put the bike on the scale. Why does every reviewer miss this important info?
Otherwise thanks for great videos 👍😀
I did. It weight just over 23KG on my Park Tool digital scale.
@@RobRidesEMTB Thank you very much for your feedback :). Please give us the numbers in your future reviews 👍.
Great vid Rob... I've had 2 bikes from yt and they've both been awesome.. Hoping to get a decoy to add to the fleet...🤞🏻🤞🏻👌🏻👌🏻
Nice, I'm sure you won't be disappointed.
I ride mostly trails that are medium in skill level. I would also like to do some downhill on occasion. Do you think I should go with the pro 29? I rode a carbon Specialized Levo and loved it. I rode a Trek Powerfly and it felt awkward. They are both out of my budget. I am 6'1" tall. What size would you recomend.
Love your reviews. Thank you!
I'm 6ft2in and rode the XXL and it fit well. I would say you are in between as it depends on your legs to torso ration, but an XL is probably perfect for you. This bike will do everything your stating. It's very similar in fun/playfulness to a Levo, just not quite the range and motor power. But the spec for the money is excellent.
Which one do you prefer? The mullet or the 29? Thanks
Been a while since I rode the mullet, but for where I ride the 29 suits me better.
Rob should I get the 2020 YT Pro 29 or the 20 Pivot Shuttle GX?
I’m interested in the xxl
How tall are you
And do those YT run small in sizes
I’m 6’2” but a bigger guy
I’m thinking a bigger bike better
What do you think
I live on the edge of Dartmoor and tend to ride alot of moorland, bridleways, Greenlanes, natural single track and my local trail centres, would you say the 29er would suit this more or hang out for the mullet?
The 29 would be very good for that. I've ridden over there, the Mullet probably overkill, id choose the 29er personally.
I live around the edge of Dartmoor also , just looking into this bike. Im 5.11 and have no idea what size to get, can anyone help?
@@LIFEOFTYLERJPERRY 5ft9 and large fits me perfectly
@@MrRijonz great thanks for replying
did it take long to come?
@@LIFEOFTYLERJPERRY 3 weeks back in June last year, brilliant bike thourghly recommend and alluate have Bosch motors and in reality we see little difference between them
Are you shooting on a go pro ? While riding ? Can u share this setting pls 🙏🙏🙏
I’m trying to figure out if this just came out or if the 2021 model will be out soon?
What do you think about the noise level coming from the rear wheel freehub? I ride 2019 pro race version and it is soo loud
I had a bit of noise and noticed the rear wheel axle had come a bit loose. Seemed OK after that.
Wired mine came today lol. No charger though 😵😵😵
Hopefully you got the charger now!
@@RobRidesEMTB yes 👍 and its amazing.
Just a general question, when I hired a turbo levo last year; I found eco gave too much assistance; does mission control now let you set level to make assist feel like 10kg non ebike? Which is best levo hardtail or scott aspect eride 930. MTB not my main hobby, can only afford sub £3000 & Scott/Specialized fav brands with local dealers. 🚴🏻♂️
Yes you can totally tune Mission Control on an Levo. I do t know the exact settings to negate the weight but it’s on EMTB Forums. You may want to get a second hand one for that budget. Sill tuneable..
Try the BLEvo app, it has dynamic adjustment of the power based on how much leg power you put in. I have mine set so that below 180watts of my leg power it just gives 1% assistance. One I start going over 180watts the motor ramps up to 34%. That’s in Eco mode. In Trail mode it’ll start at 35% and go to 100%. Fully tweakable to your needs. I’m not sure any other bike/app gives you this amount of control. Check out the forum for more details on BLEvo...👍
Hey Rob, can you put a 29" instead of the 27.5" plus in the Comp ??
Not sure to be honest.... Check out www.emtbforums.com and go to the YT section, I think they will know for sure!
How does this compare to a Specialised Turbo Levo Comp
Maybe I should do a head to head vid?
Head to head vid would be great Rob especially reviewing price comparison factoring in components and motors and batteries.
@@RobRidesEMTB yes please, I think lot of people will consider these two bikes. This bike looks great, better spec then Specialized, but the battery should be larger, that is the killer thing in Specialized Comp
@@RobRidesEMTB Absolutely, im interested to see how they stack up not going down hill but on the up hill climbs, rocky rooty up hill trails, get them on some up hill climbs/trails in full power mode and lets see ow they stack up, im buying an email bike for those climbs and these two are what im looking at
@@RobRidesEMTB Yes please!!! A head to head would be great!! I've been looking at this bike even before I got the Levo which I'll be looking to replace . It's in the shop now after only 8 or 9 rides for 3 weeks now I love how the Levo rides!! I hate that the motor might keep failing!! And 3 weeks is a long time wait!!! Especially if this is a know issue!!! And because of this, regardless of how great the Levo feels, I could not recommend it.
Hi, Is the bike shipped with tubeless? Thanks
Hi nice to meet
YT warranty is a worry for me I think! Gonna be a right hassle if you've got to send that back to Germany. Their warranty takes long enough with normal bikes let alone ebikes.
For me too but they are string up a UK support center right now. Already had some dealings with the guy who is setting it up and he is great. Restored my confidence (almost) in dealing with YT after not great results with HQ. should make local warranty issues far quicker to resolve.
Better than the Specialized Turbo Levo SL Comp Carbon ?
Definitely a top competitor to the full fat Levo. But the Levo SL is a totally different bike, up to 6KG lighter but less power. Depending on where you are riding will make a BIG difference to your experience. For super big climbs in BOOST the YT will beast the Levo SL. But on more undulating terrain with shorter sharp climbs the Levo SL can hold its own. And over the motor cut off limit the Levo SL is much easier to pedal.
Thanks. Since I am planning to buy a new bike I do look for a „natural feeling“ - ebike also for long travel and trail purpose (less pure downhill). Thatˋs why I will probably stick to the Levo SL. By the way thanks so much for your chanel and all the great and very informative videos. Always very interesting !!!!!
correct me if im wrong but isnt this the comp version? not the pro??? i have comp dune grey jeffsy... confused
What pedals are you running in this video?
You just have to pray you don't ever need to use the YT customer servive for anything because you will end up in tears for months!!
How tall are you to require a XXL frame? Just curious as I'm 6 foot 3 inches and trying to decide my size. 🍻
On their website it says xxl is for 6'3 and upwards. I friend of mine has the xl he's 6foot and fits him. I'm 6'4 and have had a go on it. It feels ok although I would like to try the bigger one. Shame there's no way to test ride them. Atleast where I live there isn't.
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What camera do you use?
Panasonic S1H anf Fuji XT3 on this video.
I have just ordered this bike today, unfortunately YT don't have the Ghostship Green in stock in the size I was after, so ive had to make do with the black version.
But I will be looking forward to your next review of the bike to see how you have got on with it, and if you have any recommendations on any kind of changes you feel would warrant the bike 👍🖖
Only thing I’d change is the front tyre to a MAX TERRA instead of the Maxx grip for better rolling ability. And I’d only do that after the front it worn a bit! This bike out the box is killer!!
Black looks better anyway 👌🏼
Bring back the ebeb ometer
It needs a refresh, had too many old bikes on it. I'm working on a new one!
@@RobRidesEMTB could you make a digital version? Its probably the best way ive seen them reviewed.
Love the vids keep it up rob
Just got my pro race
First ride out back home cleaned with hose pipe
Display wouldn't load up just showing the shimano steps screen
Removed battery and dried it out all good for now
The duck doesn't like water 🙈
Saw a video where someone reported the same trouble. They said they were just careful around the top of the battery the next time and they were fine.
Don’t wash it upside down either..
where is that in surrey Hills see it cover large area how far that from Godalming where i live
Peaslake mainly - Trail names: Thick and Creamy, Captain Clunk (El Capitan), Supernova, Barry Knows Best, Crackpipe, Wet 'n Wild....
...and Yoghurt Pots and Chocolate Teapot :) 20 Mins from Godalming..
Obvious questions
Wouldn't the shop build it ?
Are you buying straight from the factory ?
YT is online only.
Like Mike says, YT is direct to consumer. Bike just needs very basic assembly.
you put a nice filter on the videorender on the parts where you dont ride it - but it kills the real colour of the ghostship green - thats a pity, I would have loved to see that in reality
It’s almost exactly as you see in the video. Very light green, almost white.
foist (the first moist guy)
So much FOIST!
Glad to hear you think this is still a capable enduro bike I order this bike in the black magic version a few weeks ago and wanted the enduro but sold out so settled for this and plan on changing air cartridge out for 170mm in front how do you think that will change the feel of the bike? I’m more of an enduro rider and like my dh runs
I think it will slow the steering down, slacken it out, change the weight distribution a bit, and raise the BB height a bit. Maybe a 160mm would be a good compromise.
Hey Dustin. I’d ride it before committing to any changes. The whole design of this bike feels spot on and It feels like a longer travel bike than it is..Geo is spot on..
Just got my second decoy and the battery died after just 60km... damn, bad luck.
Ahh that sucks, hope you have better luck with the new one.
I'm selling my decoy. The service out of Germany is none existing. God help me if I get a serious problem. E13 parts suck and they should never be on a bike. I'd rides well but the shimano motor is just agricultural compared to the brose. You get good spec on decoy but that doesnt offset the terribly bad service. They didnt even put my bike together properly and it changes gear like shit. Also there is some fudging going here as they NEVER come UK brakes set up so this is a press bike.
It’s similar with Canyon, customer support is crap and I can’t be bothered to re-box and send to Germany for any repairs or service but it’s fine if you have a LBS that can help. That’s the bonus with Shimano motor being widely supported.
Matt X I got the same bike as in this video. Came yesterday. How has he got his charger boxed with the bike? Mine is still showing that it’s in Germany and hasn’t moved since Tuesday. Joke as I can’t use my new bike.
brassornament94 unfortunately buddy when couriers get involved it’s a lottery. It’s always a risk when you go straight to any manufacturer direct as they rely on another to transport to you It’s so bloody annoying but I’m sure they will sort it out ASAP
@@JittyLaRoot because this is clearly a press bike. Fact his brakes arent a mess says so. Germany cant even be arsed to set the bike up for uk riders so you end up with a mess of hoses. The charger also tends to turn up when ever the other carrier feels like it.
Hi , how tall are you ? XXL ? If im 5, 9 180 lbs what size do u recommend? Thanks
Hello. I am considering getting the decoy pro 29. Anybody regret getting the 29 vs the pro race mullet or can offer up advice?
Are YT direct sales from there site ?
Yes - link in video description
so is the decoy no longer a mullet bike?
For sure that one is still available, this is an additional bike in the range.
Where are you riding?
Surrey Hills
how easy is it to remove the battery? I live in an apartment and need to charge the battery separately from the bike?
Literally a 2 minute job.
How is it uphill or riding along trails, be roots and rocks. Small bumps sensitivity etc? This seems to have little focus with You in general.
Its good. This wasn't a full review more like a first ride :-)
Rob, I know you've only just got it but do you prefer it over the Levo
I’ll do a comparison video
@@RobRidesEMTB when is the comparison video comming out?
Like most things, these cost 20% more in Australia.
DHR II x 2 perfect :)
Agreed!