BADLY corroded Macbook Pro: which corrosion is causing our issue, and why?
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This was a really good board repair to learn from! Multivariate fault causing no backlight, on the same machine that was turning on/no brain due to simultaneous corrosion on CPU vcore circuit *AND* issues under the PCH? WOW!
...and I bet blackberry the cat, this won't pass 20k views in a week. I personally don't care about what videos get a viewcount, but it's really interesting after dozens of comments saying "Why don't you produce board repair videos anymore?", that came in over the past three days... I count over 20 board repair videos in the past 40 days... and all of them together get less views than a video on a bad contractor that gets 300,000 views in a day, where this has... 3000.
What people put in the comments they want from my channel, and what people actually appear to want from my channel, seems diametrically opposed.
FWIW I rarely watch the edited version of a repair I've already seen on stream, at least not soon after. Others may do the same.
Louis Rossmann Its an impressive video, but maybe not a profitable repair (assuming it actually took a lot longer than the edited version). A bit like your discussion of choosing food orders, new and complicated is not always appreciated.
People want a full repair video that only takes 15 mins to watch
Same as people wanting instant repairs when you don't have parts
More editing but maybe time stamps in the description where issue found and issue fixed points are so they can jump to them
Not everyone can or should be pleased
I think people relate more with the drama stuff with contractors, etc. than the tech stuff. I am fascinated by your board repairs and enjoy watching them when I can.
You lost your bet, Louis - 21k views already. Good show.
It is easier to remove the bridges on the connector if you tilt the board up in the air so that the tip points upwards. You also want the tip tinned farther back so that the solder can move back from the tip. I use a wide double bevel blade on TQFP packages. you helped me learn how to replace BGA and QFN so I figure I should try and help.
Paul is at the point where he can give Louis the finger. The other random minions are too scared
Louis, why don't you use self-leveling flux in your repairs??
I watched this to help me fall asleep last night.Your videos are so relaxing they’re seriously like my ASMR. Seriously one of my favorite channels!!
I love these board repair videos!
What is this? I was waiting for the next Rossmann Realty episode!
Jk, PP_G3H never gets old
PP_G3H never gets cold. It’s always hot.
Isn't it PP_BUS_G3H? DId you forget the BUS or am i wrong?
PPBUS_G3H
Noobs.. PPBUS_G3Hottt
this was very impressive. Great job Louis
16:30 - I'm with you Louis, I had a FireHouse Engine company sub fully involved five days in a row for lunch. No prob.
totally agree about the foodstuff. at a boring it job I had would always eat the same food. the shop would just see me walk in, ask for my card, and i would take out in like 5 minutes
Here I am, watching a repair video cause I support and appreciate you Louis
I haven't heard the Badger Somg on forever.
Oh the memories
Anel seems to be moving about surprisingly well! He's a tough one!
Corroded by the salty tears of the owner who regretted buying it ....
Thank you for the video
I am always so amazed at the amount of laptops that have water damage / corrosion , so many careless users ! Upside is that it gives you lots of work 👍
You should publish an app for people who are too busy to think about food. It would just have a big "Order Food" button that picks a place and orders something at random.
Nice to see a board repair video, especially after what’s been happening with the contractor :(
I think this video might just be the single best resource I've ever seen for explaining why Linux needs to focus more on ease-of-use and compatibility and stuff. And that's on top of being a great board repair video.
Excellent repair video, thanks Louis. I also DID learn something today. The PCH is not a way to win $5000 a week for life, but the same as the northbridge/southbridge. 🥳
There are times in life when you want to watch 40 minutes calming video on MacBook's motherboard repair...
But Louis, why are you fixing this already working board? It had fan spin! FAN SPIN!
Thanks!
A friend ordered the Yihua 200C tip cleaner for around $60 and he likes it. I refuse -- I've got those copper foil mesh ball thing that has never failed me.
The damn badger song. DAMN YOU ROSSMAN!!
I haven't forgiven Anel for not petting Oreo... that is unforgivable (all jokes aside ... nice to see him recovering well)
14:14 Dude the light in the liquid makes all of this look so cartoony.
At 14:33 It’s even more noticeable, looks like one of those filters on old mobile phones.
I forgot that i disabled my adblocker for something i got this 1 minute + ad for whatever thing that scared the hell out of me at 10:27 , i thought Louis was trolling us . oh god TH-cam ads ..
I can dig that 8 mile cat...grew up there
My favourite video Is the one where you go to use the isopropyl dispenser and it doesnt dispense and you throw it at the wall
Quark ive heard from pre press people is best for older ways of doing things
In design and illustrator is the standard id say.
I know that is after the fact but I have used QuarkXpress for over 12 years.
Hey, as I watched you reflow that chip, I wondered if you had ever melted your gloves to your fingers yet?
But at @ 12:28 [Brush your teeth, round and round, circle small, guns and all...]
My brain had that song archived from 40 years ago till somehow watching that, triggered it to loop in my head.
Dang it...
Heres an oddity.. When I saw the phrase "Let's fix a Macbook!" in the thumbnail, it wasn't Louis' voice I heard saying it in my head, but Anel's, imitating Louis from that stream where he fixed four boards in about 2 hours. :-)
I recently bought a MacBook Pro, my first ever Apple device. The reason? I recently moved to a new research lab that pretty much runs 100% apple and very specialized equipment like electron microscopes.
The file cross compatability of the special file types out putted by the microscope turned out to be such a pain as well as just working with and transferring files with colleagues was such a pain.
In the end multiple PhDs and master's students working on high level neuroscience research just have better shit to do than to fuck around with file compatability.
general humility does this ?
did i see correctly when you checked the backlight voltage, small LED lights are on the battery?
With such a case where you know there's corrosion under the pch that's likely survived the ultrasonic cleaning how long do you expect that board to continue working?
you should've called this machine Eugene at the start of the video, cause it's absolutely useless
Can I get a recommendation on what essential tips to get for the 861DW?
Holy smokes Louis, you revived that board big time. May I ask how long it took in total?
I believe two hours on livestream.
@@rossmanngroup a Two hour fix is worth a restaurant's meal. No?
What video had the contractors contract that he pinned?? I think it was an Imgur picture.
omg, i have not used quark for years.
Wait, so the fuse *actually* blew? I thought MacBook fuses *don't* do that.
This particular fuse was badly made and thus was out of Apple specifications.
quarkexpress no no, I used Ready set go & Pagemaker in the 80:s, on those tiny screens, to make posters :)
Pagemaker was limited but what it did, it did easily and quickly. I liked using it. I never used Quark. It was known to be very finicky but powerful according to what I heard. Really expensive too. The Mac OS was a bit less robust back then. System 9 was pretty horrible and crashed a lot.
Serif's Affinity Publisher for the win (53$ purchase only, no subscription)...but it is yet lacking some features, compared to the current (expensive) QuarkXpress and the (subscription based) industry leader, Adobe InDesign. I've handled Page Maker (usually paired with the glorious Freehand for graphic design tasks), XPress and now recently InDesign and Affinity Publisher. As a freelancer, am sticking with the latter, as my clients don't have high requirements in the publishing/editing area. As these apps are all mostly for book/magazines editing. Tasks where you need to handle a lot of text, several pages... I also have Affinity Photo (~Photoshop) and Affinity Designer (~Illustrator). For design you have also Xara Designer Pro or the cheaper Xara Page & Layout. But am not to fan of Xara's products and the latest direction of things, there (putting most attention on a somewhat online/subscription based system). Some people is fine with renting a software. I ... don't, I purchase permanent licenses.
To make posters (or flyers,brochures,etc) is often better path just a graphic design package (illustrator, Affinity Designer, Xara Designer Pro or Xara Page & Layout). And some people just a raster app like Photoshop or equivalent for that (btw, PhotoLine is a fabulous app for that, too. Hugely underrated and deserving more fame, as Affinity's, dirty cheap, too). I was forced to do so for years at a company where they had only Photoshop and did not want to buy anything else, lol.
@@3polygons Have to agree on Freehand. So easy to learn. I hate Illustrator. I also used Canvas back before it went PC only. I liked its ability to integrate raster with vector art. Thanks for all the info. I got out of the design market a while back. I've saved your comment for future reference. Cheers!
@@marscruz
If saving for future reference, here's a bit more info. Remember this all changes pretty fast. Even in 3 months (in that time, some of it would need some modifications...! ;)
Yes... I am one of those who never liked Illustrator. But had to learn it. Affinity Designer brings back the joy. :) IMO, illustrator is NOT a good example of good UI/UX.
Xara Designer Pro or the much cheaper Xara Page & layout is probably the one having more of a mix of raster and vector. But I believe Xara is kind of out for you, as is Windows only.
Affinity Designer though, counts on a "Pixel Persona" embedded, a raster mode for fast stuff, or sketching fast to do your vectors over that later. I kind of... prefer just a good raster app, and a good vector app. But is an added value, as a small raster editor inside the vectors app.
For my vector work, I use a combination of Affinity Designer (btw, you have all the affinity apps in Mac OS, iOS and Windows) and an open source free tool, Inskcape, as the few functions not yet present in Affinity Designer, surprisingly enough, you have them in inskcape (1.0 beta works well on the mac, not so the previous inkscape options). But the workflow and print functions, the UI in general, is better in Affinity Designer.
For a raster tool, I am certainly biased to Affinity Photo, but Photoline is also available on the mac, and is EXTREMELY good. Not as UI firendly As Affinity Photo, but with a lot of functionality. To the point it has functions not present in Photoshop (of course, it goes the other way round, too) neither in Photo. An ideal setup would mean having the two purchased, they are dirty cheap.
I am mostly an illustrator, so, painting apps are key for me, too. But is not so for most people, business owners, etc. Anyway, just to mention that for painting and drawing, for me the best, most round app is clipstudio ( www.clipstudio.net/en/ ).
So, links :
serif.com (for all the Affinity apps: Photo, Designer and Publisher)
inkscape.org/release/inkscape-1.0/?latest=1 (for the free inskcape, but the 1.0 beta, is the one working well in Catalina. I'm on Windows, but I'm aware of this)
www.pl32.com (Photoline)
@@3polygons Many thanks for taking the time to give your favorite picks. I have an old version of Photoshop that I can still run on my laptop. I won't pay for any Adobe ransomware. I don't do any serious work any more. I recently picked up a working 44" HP photo printer and supplies at a university auction for dirt cheap and have been meaning to dig out some old files and artwork. Your recommendations will help me figure out how to proceed. The files that used to make my old Mac choke will be easy to manipulate now. Cheers for all the good info. Much appreciated.
Just as a humor exercise: oh, using a hand heat gun to wing a reflow of a sensitive chip rather than use a precision piece of equipment for a solid foundation. Almost like changing plywood to OSB.
Hi Louis, do you guys sell official Rossman Repair Group hammers? Or are those reserved for in store use only.
Louis, linux on notebooks is in 99% as comfy as a windows or even a mac... it used to be like you describe
The sleep mode on some laptops really eats through battery, to the point where its not worth it. At least with my current laptop and situation it would be better to disable sleep functions
Sean since some moron decided laptops should be big phones and always on it can be a problem. Make sure to disable the setting for wifi in standby in power settings.
the problem with paying someone to have your closed source software now is that five years later you either have to buy a new piece of software or buy more software that does the same thing but differently and worse, so you still have to spend hours leraning the new software.
Here in michigan we call alcohol dispensers bar tenders. 😂
I’ll go home.
QuarkXPress, for editing/publishing purposes (editing books, magazines... anything with a lot of text and several pages), yep. Really good, but a bit too expensive. The main industry standard, though, keeps being InDesign, as most things Adobe are. The bad part with adobe is that you can't purchase it anymore, is subscription based. But yep, it somehow still exists, keeps being somewhat updated. But for many cases what people need for their business brochure, or graphic design of other nature, is more of a graphic design app. And for that there are several options. Besides Adobe Illustrator, you have one thing from Serif that you can purchase (a purchase, not a subscription, luckily) for just 50$, and is almost as capable. it's called Affinity Designer. They also sell an equivalent to Photoshop , called Affinity Photo. Also around 50 bucks. I have 'em both (I'm a graphic designer, a freelance), they're pretty good. And they also sell a competitor to InDesign and QuarkXPress, called Afinity Publisher. But it's lacking some features that the two giants have: they're adding those with every free update. Also 50 something bucks, permanent purchase. If the needs are not super advanced, it's a lot of money saved.
Often the issue comes with someone needing to open a file in native format, as the specs are kept secret often, or the needed info to be able to code full importers. Or even just that you can't fully translate all from one app to another, not fully, as some features present in one, are not in the other, or simply, they work too differently. Super common of a small business owner having a whatever file with some key stuff in it, and unable to open or convert it. There are some ok converters out there, but most can only do a half job, or a bad one.
I feel like i'm watching one of those surgery tv shows, but for tech instead lol. All that suction noise.
What's with the screen? Is that staingate or just dirty AF?
Your worker's reaction went from "fuck off" to uncomfortable to awkwardly friendly 😂
I have a question, what do you guys think about ipads??
I saw the ipad air and the ipad pro(2018) and the seem pretty nice. If i buy one i will use it mostly for taking notes in class and drawing soooooo i was hoping if someone could help me out with this decision an to tell me if ipads are ass good ass people say(i would like to buy something that lasts at least 3-4 years)
Lou Rossmann, the OG, your struggles and frustrations are those of us all ... we are with you! LOL ... BTW, Marry her, Louis, she’ll be the silent wall behind Rossmann Repair Group ... Erica will ensure the employees’ (and Oreo, and Clinton and BlackBerry) are looked after ... EVEN ... if she uses a MACBOOK .. LOL!
Wait, hold on, what's with the charge port on the bottom?
Corroded from water or corroded from the Macbook hating the fact it was a Macbook?
Well, don't blame Amos of Brener Construction Inc. 😹
You use an alchohol dispenser? I just go straight from the bottle
If you've ever read or listened to, an audiobook version of, The Laundry Files. The iPhone is referred to as a "Jesus" phone that magically pulls in people and charms them to love it. :D
32:30
A surprise to be sure, but a wharecum one
I wonder if a better conformal coating would help with moisture ingress.
For surface mount replacement repair... the good 3rd party professionals are perfectionists if not run away you can tell that about Louis and Paul L. Daniels.. coders or 0rogrammers often don't give a flying cluck or a sheet about how they look 99.999% stuck behind a keyboard and monitor when interacting with clientel digitally FlexBV is worth the price it's a solid gold bullion standard in Board View software...
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How about we put a tip link on your website and link to it on each video so super chat isn't taking a 30% cut? I'll do the work for 10% :)
10:25 Louis wrestles an smd device.
Have you seen the videos of satisfying things, watching you make solder bridges on connectors is kind of the opposite of those videos.
3:54 Well this is a tool basically, you invested your free time for learning how to repair electronics, some people invest time in developing software and/or use it for their needs, a lot of people and companies do (TH-cam for example). In a sense it is mandatory to know the tools you are using, because there are not always affordable options you can choose from, like GUI tool that is going to help you develop some program, or base for it that is not going to screw with your resources from using this GUI tool, like charging you from every purchase of your product, or it may broke for reason you don't know after using this tool for a long project, and you can't solve it because TOS is not allow you to make debug, or some other hurdle, that's why people use open source tools for example. Take programming language for example. People like Richard Stallman advocate for safe to use software so that it doesn't haunt you when you being reckless when trusting some non-free software that doesn't even tell you what it is going to do with your life. You are take responsibility not for using this software, but how you aware of it's capabilities, that's why you read a documentation for some program. By the way, when you do this, it pays you back for all consumed free time, and serves you eternally. For simple uses like you described, sure, it is more convenient, but you can simply read a manual for cp utility, configure it how you like it and use it for ever. Maybe I missed a point.
Lol my dad used Quark
Why does corrosion happen
"This really should be Zhao maoed but meh, what are you gonna do, lets go for it. Let's be mad men... Can you turn the oven on as well?" - careful Louis, you're starting to sound like Linus!
In all seriousness, love your channel Louis. You're the best!
Hey all
1:29 I have 20/20 vision. I do not see the model number you state is explicitly shown on the motherboard. Where?!
It may be a rare joke. Possibly.
The 820 number is on every board. Sometimes it’s under a sticker. He knows them from the top of his head.
As Rossmann said, get you eyes checked. The joke is that you need to know the model number, so that you know where to look for the model number. And then that shit is hidden under some sticker or plastic piece. You see? Lol
@@bertblankenstein3738 How dare you, I'm calling the police
Heh I ordered some Chinese food the other day based only on the name 'Flaming cow' beef stuff with lots of jalapenos
The actual fuse died XD
i sit here watching this channel wondering if amtek could afford to sponsor him lol
I think the cat urinated on that laptop lol
The "costs time" on open source happens due to interface mismatches. Closed source hides that issue, does not remove it.
Those interface mismatches result from the various groups all only caring about their own project and not the actual user experience of the whole system. But that's what matters to users, nobody cares whatever issues are hidden by closed source as long at the features they need and the choices they want are there.
Incorrect. If I don't have to spend my time on it, the issue is removed. I can use that time for something else.
@@mjc0961 It's cumulative and you don't get it sold/can't afford it, also there's trust issues, though after all there's those in open source software as well.
No charge port on a $1200 phone. Why.
How much more expensive would it be to seal these boards with some kind of water repellant coating? I mean you'd think in a $3500 product with holes in it so that moisture form a sneeze or a drop of water can ruin it that $20 of sealing on the board at least in areas that are likely to get wet wouldn't be unreasonable, or at least some effort to seal the gaps so water can't get to the board.
can someone tell me what liquid he's using and why it doesn't damage the hardware?
It's called Flux. "Applying flux accomplishes three things: reduces oxidation, improves electrical contact, and helps even solder flow."
Louis, will you fix Cleo? Maybe Erica could go to the genius bar first for a quote. Livestream anyone?
It's a keyboard replacement, which is annoying as f- on a macbook.
It's way too boring to watch stuff like that
@@kopazwashere I guess Erica will need to move to a ThinkPad after all. ;)
I can't get a quote from the genius bar because Cleo is labeled as a vintage computer because she is over 5 years old.
jesus, quark express lol
"lovely Paul Daniels' software" - somebody IS NOT Louis Rossmann!
Beware.
I'm watching on my M1 MacBook Pro
* puts on Obi One Kenobi robe *
"Quark Express... Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long, long time."
Weird competitor of Adobe. Basically had Photoshop, Illustrator and Indesign Frankensteined into one. I dare you to use it.
Don't delay, reflow PCH today!
Louis repairs MacBooks?
I'm so over paying over $500 for a phone. All the flagships keep getting more expensive with less useful features and more useless gimmicks. Screw that. The $400 Pixel 3a is better than any of the more expensive crap that released last year.
Can y’all say STAINGATE?!?!?!? Jumped up friggin jeebus!! 😳😳
Why am i watching a video where I don't understand the meaning of every component name the man says.
Because it's weirdly soothing
I liked what I ate yesterday, Louis.
You spelt "skuzzy" wrong! ;-)
19:59
Are these videos reruns from last decade?
Louis has a rather outdated look on open source software, he should try out Linux again. I recommend Manjaro.
The problem is there are problems .. example: virtual box basically dies with anything using canonical repos whenever it’s updated .. other shit like that that turns off a lot of people
@@macktheripper7454 That is why I discourage people from recommending to run a Linux distro in a VM. It can go well but this is not for newbies! Just recommend people to try out the distro on a live-USB and it will work fine. Maybe a part of the problem is that many people who show Linux distros don't have a capture card or don't want to bother to use it for this purpose. Anyway, a Linux user doesn't have to use VM's for Linux in general.
Oh my god.... badgerbadgerbadger.com!!! MUSHROOM MUSRHOOM!!! I thought I was the only nut job that remembered that classic piece of useless (yet hilarious) web space!
0:54 I want sexy hands
Ross : anything else
the microscope camera was very dark and we couldn't see anything almost all the video