Sorry for the fourth reply but this youtube seizure that I'm seeing is insane. ALL the comments are wrong and my replies are going under random comments
I have a sesame street themed chutes and ladders board where there's a ladder from space 1 to space 100, meaning if you get a 1 on your first turn you win instantly
WWB is bad on purpose, therefore making it good because it does exactly what it wants to be. Unlike everything else in the tournament, where the mechanics or design are bad when they are advertised as a good game, WWB does not. WDYM would have been my top pick if I was around when this was going on. Havent finished the video yet but I don't get why my sister loves the game so much, I can't stand it.
i have no actual basis for this, but my assumption and explanation for the obscurity of oy vey!’s origins is that it was never made to reach beyond jewish circles. it relies on stereotypes, yes, but it’s the kind of stereotypes that seem more like in-group jokes than out-group jokes, kind of like gay monopoly. if this is the case, the game is not nearly as offensive as it may seem to non-jews.
Yeah, it seems very in line with the Borscht Belt humor that was very popular among American Jews at the time. I'd be surprised if it was ever intended for non-Jewish consumption.
yeah my biggest question was if it was made by jewish people, cause the theme sounded more like intracommunal jokes rather than deliberately hateful stereotypes
Not including F.A.T.A.L was just common sense. It would have sweeped the competition. To anybody not in the know, in F.A.T.A.L you have to solve quadratic equations to calculate how far do you pee. Yes. There is a peeing mechanic. Yes. Peeing requires a skill check. Yes. You can fail a roll at peeing.
In a way, F.A.T.A.L. combines all the worst aspects of every game on this tournament bracket, and then some, and turns them up to by 25x. Absurdly long? How about making it longer? Overly complicated? Make it even more complicated! A game is offensive in theme or action? Let's just wear that on their sleeve, and actively add more offensive things to it
As a point about Sorry, I would like to point out that there IS an advanced rule set recommended if ya don’t like chance games. Each player gets 5 cards, play according to directions on the card, draw back up to 5 after every card played. Makes it a MUCH better game.
Why would Secret Hitler even have nominations? Is it just because of the name of the game? Because otherwise it's one of the better social deduction games on the market. Like most of the time I would pick playing it over Coup/Resistance or Werewolf/Mafia.
@@kood995 I've only heard complaints from people who don't like the social deduction genre in general. But then they're not specifically complaining about Secret Hitler even though that's the game they were talking about.
the only reason i could imagine a particular dislike for secret hitler, outside of a dislike for social deduction in general, is its political theme. though extremely surface-level, i could see people having takes the likes of "i can't stand any representation of hitler" or "it's just trying to be edgy by including history's most infamous villain"
Perhaps due to the circular strategy rendering the game almost unwinnable for fascists, but that's more of a friend group not banning unfair strategies problem than the game itself. Still, it's not uncommom for people to rate social deduction games solely for how hard it is to play as the deceiving side. This includes how easy it is for the "civilian" side to come up with metagaming strategies to render the social deduction useless. That or due to the political theming.
That cuts out a whole lot of crap that was shoveled in the 80s and 90s that deserves to be ridiculed too. So many movie, tv show, and videogame tie in board games...
Seeing classics like Phase 10, War, Life, Monopoly in the near entries, and especially ones that are literally for your like three year old like Candyland…Candyland making it in and then moving up at all feels like of there was an “Ugliest Clothes” competition and a normal baby’s bib was somehow making people foam at the mouth in anger lol
I dunno, when a game's target audience ages out by like, 5, I think it's fair to say it might not be worth the retail price or shelf space. I figure most kids would have more fun with a rubber ball or box of crayons. But, worst of all time? You're right, no chance.
@@squmulonimbus Games should not have target audiences, instead they should try to be fun for everyone. (I guess that could also mean it’s target audience is everyone but really that’s just semantics)
@@algotkristoffersson15 i agree that being fun for everyone can be a good goal in making a game, but with any artform or craft, there are always specific niches that can be filled and works geared toward those specific niches tend to have greater effect on people who fit that niche than works that appeal to the lowest common denominator.
I feel like the real reason FATAL didn’t get included was because it’s just so inexcusably horrible that it would’ve taken away all tension and just won instantly
In a game about SA, grossout humor and racism, somehow the most shocking part of FATAL to me was how the book was so thick it may he able to stop a bullet.
@maglev0789 Fatal's rulebook has pornographic images so owning it is illegal in some countries. And as a game from gameplay perspective Fatal is decisively worse (just creating your character tales 5 hours and there's around a 75% chance the character you roll is literally unplayable). The premise of Adultery is disgusting but it's theoretically possible it could be enjoyed, e.g. as a "naughty" variant for spin the bottle/7 minutes in Heaven in a teenagers' party. On the other hand, playing Fatal cannot possibly be enjoyable for anyone, and the rulebook has a lot of abhorrent material as well
Just about got knocked out of my chair by the number 8 stank region seed. Anyone showing up to board game night with that is getting excommunicated from the friend group.
@@deplorabledegenerate2630 I hope you're memeing so hard right now. The premise of the game is so over the top in stereotyping Jewish people. And sexist.
I think you could make something fun with the general premise. Call it "Overbearing Parents", make it a competitive 2-4 versus 1-2, kids want to follow their dreams while the parents tries to force them to give up their dreams.
I feel obligated to inform you that Charm School is/was an actual thing. Private schools that focus on teaching young women how to navigate "polite society". The connection to becoming a model is still very very loose, but they didn't just make it up.
“[Gay Monopoly] claims to support the gay lifestyle while also being neck deep in gay stereotypes” as a gay, this is just how community talks to each other normally hahahah
@TheMbmdcrew with that one and the jewish mom one, my initial reaction is they sound hilarious... assuming they were made and played by gay and jewish people. (im not saying you can't play something like that if you aren't in the group it's about, i just don't find that as funny.)
if nothing else, this entire bracket has introduced me to VERY interesting games from all over the spectrum. I didn’t know board games went that deep!!
The fact that it's intentionally bad in a comically Frankenstein way may have held it back IMO, in some way that's gotta make it better than games that don't function at all or that don't even offer the illusion of choice.
I once came up with a variant of "War" called "Attrition War". Here are the rules: - Every card that would usually be stronger than 10 (Like King, Queen or Ace) is equal in strenght to a 10 - Joker has a strenght of 0, but a special rule - Every turn both players draw 3 cards (One less for each entrenchement, as explained below), and place them face down next to one another, opposite to where the opponent places theirs - Then, the conflict resolves between the opposite cards in the following way: > All cards are revealed at once > the card of lower value is removed from play, the card of higher value goes to your discard pile > If one side played a joker, an ambush happens- both joker and the opposite card go back to their respective discard piles, and if it was opposed by a card of strenght 10 or above it's owner discards a top card from their draw pile > Cards' value is increased by 1 for each neighboring card of the same symbol > If your cards on both left and right win, the enemy is encircled- you automatically win in the center and capture enemy card into your discard pile > If you encircle a Joker, that joker is instead removed from play and you discard top 3 cards from your draw pile (This stacks with joker's normal effect) > If Joker is opposed by another Joker, Christmas truce happens- all cards return to their respective discard piles and no combat or special effects are resolved > If opposite cards are of equal strenght, frontline is entrenched- both sides keep these cards where they are and remove from the game a top card from the top of their draw pile at the start of each of their turns and draw one card less, until one of them breaks a stalemate by supporting with a card of the same symbol or encircling an enemy - If your draw pile runs out, shuffle your discard pile into your draw pile The game ends in one of two ways: 1. If a side is unable to draw enought cards due to both their draw and discard pile being too small, the other side wins 2. If the entire frontline becomes entrenched, the player with more cards in both their draw and discard pile wins I also came up with a faster variant where you draw 5 cards at the time but cannot encircle your enemy
I will say straight up that War as the most top seed OVER ADULTERY is insane. Like... RIDICULOUSLY insane like Adultery was never NOT sweeping this bad boy how did it not instantly get the highest top seed
War can be made a lot more involved with a simple twist: you draw five cards, then choose which cards to use in which order, then when you're out you draw five more
I remember I was obsessed with playing the game as a kid idk why it was just something I felt I had to do at my grandparents place and their card decks
Our War variant was that the player with fewer cards could wager their next 3 cards to make the player with more cards flip up a new card. This helped with taking back aces and kings, and provided significant enough risk that depended entirely upon the card you were going to lose. Are you going to lose a Queen? Probably a good idea to declare war. But if you're losing a 2, don't declare war. You could only declare war once per round, because no limit to the number of declarations in a round ended games really fast, with the inevitable moment where someone wagered their entire deck.
There's a weird lil internet thing called Corru Observer that features a mini-game kinda built around such an idea It's more of a turn-based fighting mini-game but it's interesting as you and your opponent have the same moveset and you get told one of their actions per turn in advance The catch is as the other event it's tied to progresses, the total number of actions each turn ramps up (starting at 2 but peaking at I think 4), all while you're still only afforded one bit of intel per turn
What Do You Meme holds the distinction of being the only gift I ever got that I showed even a smidge of unappreciation towards while receiving it, and for that I will never forgive it. I still look back and am baffled at how it managed to do it, I've received utility bills with more enthusiasm than I had when I got that game. I know the gifter was well intentioned too, but just..... God
I predicted Adultery would win right off the bat just because it seemed logical that swingers have more interesting things to do than watch youtube reviews of board games, so nobody here would be willing to defend it. Its win just goes to show that pearl clutching will always win votes.
I'm calling it. This is THE best TH-cam video of 2024. That said, I'm shocked Miss Monopoly beat out Mr. Bacon because as bad as Ms. Monopoly is, it has zero chance of KILLING you
I mean, he absolutely develops games, and he absolutely has some skill / knowledge in what makes a good / bad game, and he's done it repeatedly. I'd say that 'Game Developer' is more a side-hobby-career for him than an actual title, like how Jimmy Carter is also a prolific house constructor while also having been a president and politician.
I love the idea of this, but I think there should be a version that kicks out all the roll-and-move type games from the late 90's-early 00's since almost all of them boil down to having the same issue: low player agency and effectively playing themselves. It's like half the bracket are all the same game under a different name, some with slightly more controversial theming than others. Edit: I didn't really think about it until after the fact, but all the games that are just "roll dice and keep score" are in a similar boat, like Bunco and LCR. Just a bunch of spots taken up by games that are more or less there for the same reason.
I know it's because it's from 1969, but it's hilarious to me that Adultery feels the need to specify that it's ONLY for heterosexual cheating. Further limiting it on the "who would even play this" metric.
I won't argue that Adultery is a good game, but I feel like you're really overestimating how much of a turn-off the strict rules and timing by a neutral third party is. If there wasn't a critical mass of people who get off on being forced to follows a strict ruleset while having sex the entire BDSM community would fucking collapse in on itself
As someone in the swinger scene, I can see it being unironically enjoyed by some people I know, though there's undeniably far more popular "homebrew" games of a similar theme.
I feel like everyone voting for Adultery to win are kinda nerds lol. It's a game designed for swingers. Everyone playing that game is consenting to what is going to happen. There's nothing "illegal" happening. Seems like everyone is just weirded out by bubbles that aren't their own. RPS is quite literally pointless. You are paying for nothing.
@@RezdCoombs I feel like it's a symptom of how much cunts on the internet are freaking out about poly people lately for no reason. It's like with asexual people a couple years back, it's just the non-normative sexuality it's currently socially acceptable to publically shit on
@@RezdCoombs adultery is a bizarre game for numerous reasons, but primarily; i dont see why swingers would be into this over just... you know. swinging. you could get the exact same end goal out of spin the bottle and setting an arbitrary alarm on your phone. it's baffling, it has no obvious market even including swingers and seems largely to be a gag gift, but that's a gag gift that can burn the shit out of you if it doesn't land. on the other hand, i can imagine someone playing rock paper scissors. its also not a board game.
Honestly kind off tragic we never got a Adultery vs. Group Therapy Matchup because of how funny that Battle would have been. That being said Career Girls is just worse.
It'd be interesting to see a bracket of "games that have never been finished". Whether due to impossibly long run times, insane rules, or simple, overwhelming unpopularity. This would open up the floor to a bunch of games that have never been published and sold in stores, but should be titles that average boardgame players may be vaguely aware of existing.
Hello! I'd like to say this was an amazing compilation i love the tournament style of this video and the fact you are the announcer the dialogue is fun to listen to, much more so than if you had just spoken like normal this announcer had me hyped for a bunch of games i'd never heard of, and it was a fun experience as for what kind of videos to make next, all of those ideas you had at the end were awesome suggestions, straight from the source to boot your earnest really shows, at least that's the impression i got from watching you are a good content creator and i will continue to watch your vids in the future from watching this series have a great day and thanks for reading
I remember as a kid, Candyland made me cry because i lost and i was so angry because it wasn’t even my fault. it’s so lame and there is zero skill or enjoyment to be had in it.
33:23 I actually remember playing ungame with my therapist when I was a kid. I might have played this with my counselor, but that particular memory is a bit fuzzy.
I've been thinking about the Campaign for North Africa vs Public Assistance match up, and I'll say this: if you asked me which board game I would like to attempt to play at a family game night with my parents, I'd pick North Africa. I'm at least curious to see if it's a game I'd like. It's at least interesting enough to want on my shelf and talk about. Public Assistance is a game I don't want any of my right-leaning relatives to see, or anyone in general thinking I own because I agree with it.
Very curious why secret hitler was considered a possibility for the list. It's one I really like and among the people I have played games with, the worst opinion I have seen on it was more disinterest than dislike.
@@becuaseimbored3481 It might be more so that its the only social deduction game people who hate social deduction games played. After all its the most recent popular social deduction game.
@@eightcoins4401 I don't think it's just that I also think it's because it's to much of a party game for like the real tryhards. Be it people playing 10D chess with coup or playing blood on the clock tower in full cosplay those people are not going to spend a 100 hours playing secret Hitler and any game they wouldn't play a 100 hours of is bad to them.
I don’t think people how bad “what do you meme?” Is, for prespective it came out 2016 and even back then the content it used was horrifically out of date, and being a meme game memes get stale as hell and when that’s the premise of your game it’s horrific. And it’s a cards against humanity like, which means your making horrible 2000’s esc top text bottom text memes. But that also doesn’t work as the “text cards” are often waaayyyy too long for the picture assosiacted with so you can’t even try and force this to be funny this game is so criminally unfunny and never hits that “it’s so bad it’s good” tier
The grand final I truly wanted to see was the meme machine going up against The Campaign for North Africa: The Desert War, 1940-43. the reason: unlike RPS and Adultery that literally have no target audience, The Campaign for North Africa: The Desert War, 1940-43 and What do you meme? actually have a target audience and even their target audience thinks they're horrible.
I got it the year it came out when I was in college because cards against humanity was basically all everyone played. We were so excited for a new game like it. And it was just, so bad 🫠 Like everything was 4 years out of date meme wise which is like 25 in internet years. We played it once and then never opened the box again
I just found this channel very recently, and have finished this whole video. Nearing the end of it, I was laughing and getting hyped for what could win. It was very fun! Thank you for this content.
The Ungame isn't fun to play, it's a therapy tool. But it isn't painful or offensive so it has no chance at being the worst. It's just the worst I've personally "played" because I've done therapy work with it.
As a game, The Ungame seems outdone by Group Therapy which has the added rule of "The rest of the group decides whether they think your answer was sincere or not". So it's not even the worst Therapy-like game in the bracket.
I feel like I'd rather play a celebrity game that's super outdated than a new one because I get to learn about the past rather than a bunch of people I already hear too much about. Also gay monopoly looks like it kicks ass, how did that end up on here
I honestly have no clue why it was on the bracket in the first place. I agree that it looks like it would kick ass. Yes, it is filled with gay stereotypes, but I get the distinct feeling that they were done as in-jokes that other gay people were supposed to get a chuckle out of rather than anything malicious.
@@kood995 Yeah the game was made by and for gay men to raise money for AIDS research (which makes it pretty messed up that Parker Brothers shut it down, especially considering it's clearly parody).
@@kood995 Yeah it was made by and for gay men and they gave the proceeds to AIDS research (which makes it even more messed up that Parker Brothers cracked down like they did, especially considering it's obviously protected as parody). People who are going "oh my god look at all the stereotypes this is so offensive" are missing the context.
It feels like some of these were more about being wacky & weird than outright bad, or just the fact that he already made videos about them before doing this tournament lol
@ohno5559 not to defend the parker brothers, but i think parodies are only protected under copyright law. this would have been a trademark issue. (my basic understanding is copyright: i came up with the idea for something, i have the inherent right to be the one to monetize my creativity, and someone infringing on that would be stealing my idea VS trademark: i paid the government money for the right to use certain words or symbols when selling my products in a particular market, ie the board game market, and someone else infringing on that would be confusing consumers about what they're buying.)
As a gay, Gay Monopoly doesn't deserve to be on here. Just look at the components and text - it's camp. The board is too gay to have straight edges and it has a "review" from Dorothy Gayle of Kansas for Pete's sake! It's purposefully bad taste but it's simultaneously so accurate in what it sets out to do - describe a certain segment of gay life in the 80s by and for the people living it. I know my friend group would get a kick out of it and if copies weren't so rare, I'd pick up a copy just to play each year during Pride. Saying it belongs because of the stereotypes is totally missing the point and comes across as needless white-knight behavior when the worst aspect is that it's based on Monopoly. Getting to use the "Super Deck was barely able to beat off Gay Monopoly" almost excuses putting Gay Monopoly in the bracket. Almost ;)
This is a perfect example of liberals being offended on behalf of a minority group they don't belong to when the group themselves are not even bothered at all. I think the same is true of Oi Vey here too. I imagine a lot of Jews would see the humour in it, but a bunch of liberal gentiles are getting butthurt on their behalf.
It is surreal to me the level of venom that got thrown at "What shall I be: exciting game of career girls". People actually saying a product of its time makes it as offensive as those two Hammerhead games, or Adultry, or even Oy Vey which is arguably worse- your daughters become house wives. Even comparing it to Ms. Monopoly. That was a game that should have known how patronizing it was and exactly how it would make every male player feel and went for it anyway. Career Girls was released in 1966. It is like getting mad at some greatest generation grandparent, it just makes you sound insufferable.
The miss monopoly game is just dumb, Sure women shouldn’t make less than men. But they shouldn’t make MORE than them either. (That is assuming they are doing the same work)
Ms. Monopoly isn't even a game, it's a mean-spirited political statement. They didn't even do that well, seems more like it was designed to show why affirmative action sucks lol
I agree completely. And besides, the careers listed in the game aren’t _bad_ careers, and are still very female-dominated in real life. Half the women on my dad’s side of the family are nurses, for example, and the elementary school I attended growing up had an almost entirely female faculty. As a little girl, I’ve wanted to be a teacher, an actress, and a ballet dancer at various points in my life. Look at it not only through the lens of its time, but through the lens of a child. A little girl will likely see “model”, “actress”, and “ballet dancer” as glamorous careers that they look up to, and they’re very likely to have encountered teachers, nurses, and flight attendants in real life at that point in time. So those are all careers they already know are possible.
I can't believe I watched a 2 hour video where I felt invested in cheering on what ultimately became the winner and found a newfound curiosity for finding a way to play the North Africa game.
53:35 in dnd you usually have a map you move around on in combat, as such it and in fact most TTRPGS are both pen and paper games AND board games, or at least somewhere in between. And besides Tick Tac Toe is a pen and paper game but you included it anyway.
4:26 we play this everytime our family meets up somewhere around chistmas time, but it’s called left right center and we use actual money instead of tokens, really fun game.
First time I played War was with a friend I don't talk to anymore a couple of years ago, I told them it just felt like random chance who won or not and they tried convincing me it actually was fun
I fucking love Phase 10. One mess up and your lead can be over. (And doing a full hand phase is fun to mess with people who don't have it down because it becomes more chaotic. I love it so much that I taught my entire college dorm room floor how to play. THAT was chaos at its finest, and I love it.)
I could see myself enjoying it with friends where it’s moreso a background thing for hanging out, but every time I’ve played it was with my family and MAN was it a slog to get through. We’ve never finished a game of it because everyone got bored of it by phase 5. If you like it then more power to you, but unfortunately I am a certified Phase 10 hater.
Totopoly is one that should get an honorable mention for being a game of 2 halves where the first half is about getting money and preparing for the race, betting on horses. But money doesn't actually matter because the second half is about getting your horse over the finish line, which involves rolling the EXACT number. So, you end up with a bunch of players at the end needing to roll a 1 to win.
As someone who's been forced to play Phase 10 at multiple family get-togethers, it's quite possibly the single most unbearable game in our game library, my goodness it just DOES NOT END. Note that other games we play include Yahtzee and UNO Triple Play. Also, just gonna say, the sports commentary angle of the presentation leads to a lot of hilarious prospects regarding these games actively trying to one-down eachother in terms of lack of quality.
As someone who plays lcr regularly on every family vacation, use ones instead of tokens and have the pot carry over unless the last person rolls 3 dots (a null roll). Really fun and the commitment of three dollars over winning up 30 per round makes it a lot of fun and something to do with your hands during conversation.
Phase 10 even being considered really shocked me. My family had a house rule of "each participant picks one phase and the rest gets ditched", and playing only 3-5 pahses instead of all 10 made it really fun. Also allowed for variety due to different rounds having different sets of phases.
The worst version of candyland was the one my kindergartner's "play" where I have to hold up a colored card based on the color they drew and they say the word. Additionally theres like 3 different games where all you do is draw a card, say the word you get it, don't you don't, and if you pull the specific card you lose all your stuff.
A lot of these feel like "rng bad :(" placements.... Quite a few of these games don't belong here Eta when the final was announced: Also. Don't call me out like that. I wasn't looking for copy of adultery for my weird boardgame collection. You don't know me. 😭😂😂
I can't believe Risk didn't make it on this list. All it is is camping in Australia and South America where no army actually makes any significant progress.
just now getting into the board game fandom and I recognized a few I used to play when I was younger, PARTICULARLY That worst case scenario survival game….. I remember it just kind of sat with everything else, nobody ever wanted to play it, and the one or two times we did it was back on the shelf in 5 minutes. The only good thing about it I remember was me, a little nerd, thought the information on the cards were neat, even though the woeful boringness made me tired after reading like 3 cards max. Sincerely a horrible game, just read the book series.
I’m wondering where Exploding Kittens (the base game, as I’m not too familiar with the expansions) fares on this list. Seems to be pretty random to me outside of a few cards, but even getting those cards is random.
Here's a question for W.W.B. How fast can you make a computer play legal games of it? I don't mean roll for every move. What I mean is generate believable l games which can be searched in an arbitrary fashion, which are stable, which do not have any statistical biased, and which have a known ending point.
I can confirm from myself and others tackling the problem that the exact average number of turns for a solo game of W.W.B. is 2.822 * 10^79, and that most computers that simulate playing the game crash somewhere after trillions of rounds have gone by. This thing is not simulable on any human time scale, but you can represent it with a stock-and-flow model and matrix operations to get the averages for games with less squares in it, and from there it's possible to find the higher ones recursively. From what I've found, the average for two players is somewhere around 3.237 * 10^79, but from the way I calculated that it's almost guaranteed to be slightly higher than that. It might be possible to get the exact answer, but safe to say it would be complicated to calculate.
It’s crazy to get to this point in life and hear the sentence “the Vanilla Ice Electronic Rap Game will endure Capital Punishment” for the first time
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Sorry for the fourth reply but this youtube seizure that I'm seeing is insane. ALL the comments are wrong and my replies are going under random comments
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Absolutely insane that a game without a board beat a board without a game in a worst board game tournament
Yeah it kind of makes the whole thing a farce
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@@navebucketdudeno it doesnt
@@olivercharles2930it does
I have a sesame street themed chutes and ladders board where there's a ladder from space 1 to space 100, meaning if you get a 1 on your first turn you win instantly
Kek, that's hilarious
That's a harmless laugh, it has more charm than most of these games
@@glumbortango7182 well yeah you can just play again. still kinda dumb though
I think I had that take as a kid omg
isn't the joke that chutes and ladders is typically played with two dice lol
that "Super Deck was barely able to beat off Gay Monopoly" line is gold
followed by “Super Deck almost allowing it to come from behind from Gay Monopoly”
"Those that support Adultery are numerous" was also up there
Time stamp?
“The Vanilla Ice Electronic Rap Game will be enduring capital punishment.” is up there too lol
It’s funny how “WWB” lost to “What do you meme” because the former actually succeeded at what it set out to do
Hard to hate something that is trying way too hard to be hated
WWB is bad on purpose, therefore making it good because it does exactly what it wants to be. Unlike everything else in the tournament, where the mechanics or design are bad when they are advertised as a good game, WWB does not. WDYM would have been my top pick if I was around when this was going on. Havent finished the video yet but I don't get why my sister loves the game so much, I can't stand it.
i have no actual basis for this, but my assumption and explanation for the obscurity of oy vey!’s origins is that it was never made to reach beyond jewish circles. it relies on stereotypes, yes, but it’s the kind of stereotypes that seem more like in-group jokes than out-group jokes, kind of like gay monopoly. if this is the case, the game is not nearly as offensive as it may seem to non-jews.
Yeah, it seems very in line with the Borscht Belt humor that was very popular among American Jews at the time. I'd be surprised if it was ever intended for non-Jewish consumption.
yeah my biggest question was if it was made by jewish people, cause the theme sounded more like intracommunal jokes rather than deliberately hateful stereotypes
Seriously, it sounds like it could be a damned franchise with every group there is, just basically reskinning it with other injokes
Every Jew I know loves the Hebrew Hammer too 🤷♂️ nothing wrong with laughing at yourselves
"The Vanilla Ice electronic rap game will be enduring capital punishment" is a sentence I never thought I would hear in my entire life.
Not including F.A.T.A.L was just common sense. It would have sweeped the competition.
To anybody not in the know, in F.A.T.A.L you have to solve quadratic equations to calculate how far do you pee.
Yes. There is a peeing mechanic.
Yes. Peeing requires a skill check.
Yes. You can fail a roll at peeing.
i knew about the role for circumference... but quadratic equation??
In a way, F.A.T.A.L. combines all the worst aspects of every game on this tournament bracket, and then some, and turns them up to by 25x.
Absurdly long? How about making it longer?
Overly complicated? Make it even more complicated!
A game is offensive in theme or action? Let's just wear that on their sleeve, and actively add more offensive things to it
I still don't see it beating Adultery.
Is it bad id love to see Critical Role play it for shits and giggles
It's not a board game
As a point about Sorry, I would like to point out that there IS an advanced rule set recommended if ya don’t like chance games. Each player gets 5 cards, play according to directions on the card, draw back up to 5 after every card played. Makes it a MUCH better game.
thats the way i always play when i get the chance to, im surprised that this mode isnt the default
So they fixed the RNG problem by allowing you to optionally use a Yugioh like setup... I'll use that ruleset next time I play.
on god this series is going to cause riots with certain lines taken out of context, the main one being "Those who support Adultery are numerous"
Taking out of context shouldn’t exist
"Context shouldn't exist" -@@algotkristoffersson15
What do you mean Pass Out has no skill element? If you die before finishing the game, you obviously lose.
It doesn't take skill to die from drinking.
@@XenoChron2 it takes plenty of skill to not die by drinking while also drinking
I love how one of the semi final matchups, North Africa vs RPS, is excessively overly complicated vs so simple the product is totally unnecessary
I love campaign for north africa: the desert war 1940-43, it has unique italian mechancis
The pasta rule!!!
I was so damn invested in this that I audibly GASPED at work when RPS beat CNA at the semi-finals
Why would Secret Hitler even have nominations? Is it just because of the name of the game? Because otherwise it's one of the better social deduction games on the market. Like most of the time I would pick playing it over Coup/Resistance or Werewolf/Mafia.
Yeah, I was super confused as to why it was in all of those photos. I only heard praises about it.
@@kood995 I've only heard complaints from people who don't like the social deduction genre in general. But then they're not specifically complaining about Secret Hitler even though that's the game they were talking about.
probably for the funnies ngl
the only reason i could imagine a particular dislike for secret hitler, outside of a dislike for social deduction in general, is its political theme. though extremely surface-level, i could see people having takes the likes of "i can't stand any representation of hitler" or "it's just trying to be edgy by including history's most infamous villain"
Perhaps due to the circular strategy rendering the game almost unwinnable for fascists, but that's more of a friend group not banning unfair strategies problem than the game itself.
Still, it's not uncommom for people to rate social deduction games solely for how hard it is to play as the deceiving side. This includes how easy it is for the "civilian" side to come up with metagaming strategies to render the social deduction useless.
That or due to the political theming.
would love to see a worst board game of all time: millennium edition
only containing board games released after 1999
Well that wouldn't really be "all time"
@@somuchnope2 maybe title it "Worst Board Game of the Millennium"
That cuts out a whole lot of crap that was shoveled in the 80s and 90s that deserves to be ridiculed too. So many movie, tv show, and videogame tie in board games...
@@deplorabledegenerate2630I think the point is kinda to cut out the "shovelware" of the 80s-90s board games
@@efad3215 fair enough, and honestly a lot of those games were okayish. They usually weren't ambitious enough to be truly bad.
Seeing classics like Phase 10, War, Life, Monopoly in the near entries, and especially ones that are literally for your like three year old like Candyland…Candyland making it in and then moving up at all feels like of there was an “Ugliest Clothes” competition and a normal baby’s bib was somehow making people foam at the mouth in anger lol
I dunno, when a game's target audience ages out by like, 5, I think it's fair to say it might not be worth the retail price or shelf space. I figure most kids would have more fun with a rubber ball or box of crayons. But, worst of all time? You're right, no chance.
@@squmulonimbus Games should not have target audiences, instead they should try to be fun for everyone. (I guess that could also mean it’s target audience is everyone but really that’s just semantics)
@@algotkristoffersson15absolutely bonkers take
@@michaeledwards6683 Like I know they can’t ACTUALLY Be fun for everyone, but if they try then it will be fun for as many people as possible.
@@algotkristoffersson15 i agree that being fun for everyone can be a good goal in making a game, but with any artform or craft, there are always specific niches that can be filled and works geared toward those specific niches tend to have greater effect on people who fit that niche than works that appeal to the lowest common denominator.
I feel like the real reason FATAL didn’t get included was because it’s just so inexcusably horrible that it would’ve taken away all tension and just won instantly
I'm pretty sure the champion we got would've STILL won even if FATAL was included, at least FATAL isn't a felony
In a game about SA, grossout humor and racism, somehow the most shocking part of FATAL to me was how the book was so thick it may he able to stop a bullet.
Would be real good competition with Adultery.
@maglev0789 Fatal's rulebook has pornographic images so owning it is illegal in some countries. And as a game from gameplay perspective Fatal is decisively worse (just creating your character tales 5 hours and there's around a 75% chance the character you roll is literally unplayable).
The premise of Adultery is disgusting but it's theoretically possible it could be enjoyed, e.g. as a "naughty" variant for spin the bottle/7 minutes in Heaven in a teenagers' party. On the other hand, playing Fatal cannot possibly be enjoyable for anyone, and the rulebook has a lot of abhorrent material as well
Just about got knocked out of my chair by the number 8 stank region seed. Anyone showing up to board game night with that is getting excommunicated from the friend group.
("Oy Vey!" in case those reading this forgot/lost track)
I'd make an Exodus joke here but I'm not sure if that'd even remotely be kosher or not.
Don't be antisemetic.
@@deplorabledegenerate2630
I hope you're memeing so hard right now. The premise of the game is so over the top in stereotyping Jewish people. And sexist.
I think you could make something fun with the general premise. Call it "Overbearing Parents", make it a competitive 2-4 versus 1-2, kids want to follow their dreams while the parents tries to force them to give up their dreams.
You gave me a heart attack by throwing Secret Hitler into the watch group
I feel obligated to inform you that Charm School is/was an actual thing. Private schools that focus on teaching young women how to navigate "polite society". The connection to becoming a model is still very very loose, but they didn't just make it up.
“[Gay Monopoly] claims to support the gay lifestyle while also being neck deep in gay stereotypes”
as a gay, this is just how community talks to each other normally hahahah
It's like that tiktok guy who does the "what does your smash main say about you" says how gay men can call each other slurs as a treat
This very comment is a gay stereotype
Yeah, the stereotypes seem less like insults and more like inside jokes.
@TheMbmdcrew with that one and the jewish mom one, my initial reaction is they sound hilarious... assuming they were made and played by gay and jewish people. (im not saying you can't play something like that if you aren't in the group it's about, i just don't find that as funny.)
they aren’t ready to learn that we talk and act differently around each other than we do around them smh
"secret Hitler" is sadly a way too good deduction game to be anywhere near this list of worst board games.
RIP my beloved Campaign for North Africa.
It made a very deep run, beating out some absolute titans, nothing to be ashamed of
if nothing else, this entire bracket has introduced me to VERY interesting games from all over the spectrum. I didn’t know board games went that deep!!
Did not expect the Valefisk shoutout, let’s be real if his torture game was included it would hard sweep all the way to the final matchup
Yeah but what if Fatal gets out in? I think FATAL sweeps everything.
It sweeps war, adultery, and campaign at the same time
Nah, it was intending to be a torture game and thus accomplished its purpose, which is more than can be said for a lot of the games here
The fact that it's intentionally bad in a comically Frankenstein way may have held it back IMO, in some way that's gotta make it better than games that don't function at all or that don't even offer the illusion of choice.
WWB was eliminated early because the fact it sucked was both intentional and for laughs, Torture Game probably wouldn't fare much better
I once came up with a variant of "War" called "Attrition War". Here are the rules:
- Every card that would usually be stronger than 10 (Like King, Queen or Ace) is equal in strenght to a 10
- Joker has a strenght of 0, but a special rule
- Every turn both players draw 3 cards (One less for each entrenchement, as explained below), and place them face down next to one another, opposite to where the opponent places theirs
- Then, the conflict resolves between the opposite cards in the following way:
> All cards are revealed at once
> the card of lower value is removed from play, the card of higher value goes to your discard pile
> If one side played a joker, an ambush happens- both joker and the opposite card go back to their respective discard piles, and if it was opposed by a card of strenght 10 or above it's owner discards a top card from their draw pile
> Cards' value is increased by 1 for each neighboring card of the same symbol
> If your cards on both left and right win, the enemy is encircled- you automatically win in the center and capture enemy card into your discard pile
> If you encircle a Joker, that joker is instead removed from play and you discard top 3 cards from your draw pile (This stacks with joker's normal effect)
> If Joker is opposed by another Joker, Christmas truce happens- all cards return to their respective discard piles and no combat or special effects are resolved
> If opposite cards are of equal strenght, frontline is entrenched- both sides keep these cards where they are and remove from the game a top card from the top of their draw pile at the start of each of their turns and draw one card less, until one of them breaks a stalemate by supporting with a card of the same symbol or encircling an enemy
- If your draw pile runs out, shuffle your discard pile into your draw pile
The game ends in one of two ways:
1. If a side is unable to draw enought cards due to both their draw and discard pile being too small, the other side wins
2. If the entire frontline becomes entrenched, the player with more cards in both their draw and discard pile wins
I also came up with a faster variant where you draw 5 cards at the time but cannot encircle your enemy
I will say straight up that War as the most top seed OVER ADULTERY is insane. Like... RIDICULOUSLY insane like Adultery was never NOT sweeping this bad boy how did it not instantly get the highest top seed
Whoever seeded this is a massive goober
Some people really don't like war
I think war works as the "this objectively has no strategic value" default for seed 1
@@kamsandwich Typo?
Because at least sex is fun.
War can be made a lot more involved with a simple twist: you draw five cards, then choose which cards to use in which order, then when you're out you draw five more
So five card initial draw like Yugioh, and then selecting combat like MTG.
I can see that helping.
I remember I was obsessed with playing the game as a kid idk why it was just something I felt I had to do at my grandparents place and their card decks
Our War variant was that the player with fewer cards could wager their next 3 cards to make the player with more cards flip up a new card. This helped with taking back aces and kings, and provided significant enough risk that depended entirely upon the card you were going to lose. Are you going to lose a Queen? Probably a good idea to declare war. But if you're losing a 2, don't declare war.
You could only declare war once per round, because no limit to the number of declarations in a round ended games really fast, with the inevitable moment where someone wagered their entire deck.
@@frayzardwoah. Same exact thing here there’s so strange lol
There's a weird lil internet thing called Corru Observer that features a mini-game kinda built around such an idea
It's more of a turn-based fighting mini-game but it's interesting as you and your opponent have the same moveset and you get told one of their actions per turn in advance
The catch is as the other event it's tied to progresses, the total number of actions each turn ramps up (starting at 2 but peaking at I think 4), all while you're still only afforded one bit of intel per turn
What Do You Meme holds the distinction of being the only gift I ever got that I showed even a smidge of unappreciation towards while receiving it, and for that I will never forgive it. I still look back and am baffled at how it managed to do it, I've received utility bills with more enthusiasm than I had when I got that game. I know the gifter was well intentioned too, but just..... God
Nice to see the compilation. All of it bundled together makes it perfect for background listening.
Adultery seems like it was made for IRL swinger parties
Not really unless there's only one bedroom and swingers in question aren't comfortable having sex in front of other people
I predicted Adultery would win right off the bat just because it seemed logical that swingers have more interesting things to do than watch youtube reviews of board games, so nobody here would be willing to defend it. Its win just goes to show that pearl clutching will always win votes.
You know after watching all 2 hours of this, you guys have made such a great case for Campaign for North Africa that I actually want to buy it.
1:45:24 "Those that support Adultery are numerous."
A sign of the times, my friends.
I'm calling it. This is THE best TH-cam video of 2024. That said, I'm shocked Miss Monopoly beat out Mr. Bacon because as bad as Ms. Monopoly is, it has zero chance of KILLING you
I disagree. If the wrong person played Ms. Monopoly with my gaming group, there is a very high chance they could get killed.
Calling Valefisk a game developer feels... wrong. You're technically correct, but, like, come on.
Turns out he's listed as a Video Game Developer if you Google him. I thought that was funny and rolled with it.
I mean, he absolutely develops games, and he absolutely has some skill / knowledge in what makes a good / bad game, and he's done it repeatedly.
I'd say that 'Game Developer' is more a side-hobby-career for him than an actual title, like how Jimmy Carter is also a prolific house constructor while also having been a president and politician.
@@tylerp.5004 | tylerp out here talking like he knows Valefisk personally
I love that valefisk’s torture game almost made it
If only he put it on steam workshop!
I love the idea of this, but I think there should be a version that kicks out all the roll-and-move type games from the late 90's-early 00's since almost all of them boil down to having the same issue: low player agency and effectively playing themselves. It's like half the bracket are all the same game under a different name, some with slightly more controversial theming than others.
Edit: I didn't really think about it until after the fact, but all the games that are just "roll dice and keep score" are in a similar boat, like Bunco and LCR. Just a bunch of spots taken up by games that are more or less there for the same reason.
I know it's because it's from 1969, but it's hilarious to me that Adultery feels the need to specify that it's ONLY for heterosexual cheating. Further limiting it on the "who would even play this" metric.
I won't argue that Adultery is a good game, but I feel like you're really overestimating how much of a turn-off the strict rules and timing by a neutral third party is. If there wasn't a critical mass of people who get off on being forced to follows a strict ruleset while having sex the entire BDSM community would fucking collapse in on itself
As someone in the swinger scene, I can see it being unironically enjoyed by some people I know, though there's undeniably far more popular "homebrew" games of a similar theme.
Came here to say this. If it wasn't for the heteronormativity I would probably play it. But why bother when monopoly with house rules works just fine?
I feel like everyone voting for Adultery to win are kinda nerds lol. It's a game designed for swingers. Everyone playing that game is consenting to what is going to happen. There's nothing "illegal" happening. Seems like everyone is just weirded out by bubbles that aren't their own. RPS is quite literally pointless. You are paying for nothing.
@@RezdCoombs I feel like it's a symptom of how much cunts on the internet are freaking out about poly people lately for no reason. It's like with asexual people a couple years back, it's just the non-normative sexuality it's currently socially acceptable to publically shit on
@@RezdCoombs adultery is a bizarre game for numerous reasons, but primarily; i dont see why swingers would be into this over just... you know. swinging. you could get the exact same end goal out of spin the bottle and setting an arbitrary alarm on your phone.
it's baffling, it has no obvious market even including swingers and seems largely to be a gag gift, but that's a gag gift that can burn the shit out of you if it doesn't land. on the other hand, i can imagine someone playing rock paper scissors. its also not a board game.
Even the people playing the North Africa one irl haven't finished!
dude is an irl 😎 emoji
Honestly kind off tragic we never got a Adultery vs. Group Therapy Matchup because of how funny that Battle would have been. That being said Career Girls is just worse.
It'd be interesting to see a bracket of "games that have never been finished". Whether due to impossibly long run times, insane rules, or simple, overwhelming unpopularity. This would open up the floor to a bunch of games that have never been published and sold in stores, but should be titles that average boardgame players may be vaguely aware of existing.
Hello! I'd like to say this was an amazing compilation
i love the tournament style of this video and the fact you are the announcer
the dialogue is fun to listen to, much more so than if you had just spoken like normal
this announcer had me hyped for a bunch of games i'd never heard of, and it was a fun experience
as for what kind of videos to make next, all of those ideas you had at the end were awesome suggestions, straight from the source to boot
your earnest really shows, at least that's the impression i got from watching
you are a good content creator and i will continue to watch your vids in the future from watching this series
have a great day and thanks for reading
absolutely, i have never been this invested in board games and i am loving it
I remember as a kid, Candyland made me cry because i lost and i was so angry because it wasn’t even my fault. it’s so lame and there is zero skill or enjoyment to be had in it.
Wow you’re a baby
@@HelloImClipClop yeah I was like 5 so
I will forever stand by my belief that Candyland is in no way actually a game.
33:23 I actually remember playing ungame with my therapist when I was a kid. I might have played this with my counselor, but that particular memory is a bit fuzzy.
I've been thinking about the Campaign for North Africa vs Public Assistance match up, and I'll say this: if you asked me which board game I would like to attempt to play at a family game night with my parents, I'd pick North Africa.
I'm at least curious to see if it's a game I'd like. It's at least interesting enough to want on my shelf and talk about. Public Assistance is a game I don't want any of my right-leaning relatives to see, or anyone in general thinking I own because I agree with it.
Very curious why secret hitler was considered a possibility for the list. It's one I really like and among the people I have played games with, the worst opinion I have seen on it was more disinterest than dislike.
It's probably the whole "hitler" thing
@@becuaseimbored3481 It might be more so that its the only social deduction game people who hate social deduction games played. After all its the most recent popular social deduction game.
Project moon fan spotted
Because it’s just not a good social deduction game
@@eightcoins4401 I don't think it's just that I also think it's because it's to much of a party game for like the real tryhards. Be it people playing 10D chess with coup or playing blood on the clock tower in full cosplay those people are not going to spend a 100 hours playing secret Hitler and any game they wouldn't play a 100 hours of is bad to them.
How was Secret Hitler even in consideration?
Same with connect 4
It's the deranged theme I'm guessing
I don’t think people how bad “what do you meme?” Is, for prespective it came out 2016 and even back then the content it used was horrifically out of date, and being a meme game memes get stale as hell and when that’s the premise of your game it’s horrific. And it’s a cards against humanity like, which means your making horrible 2000’s esc top text bottom text memes. But that also doesn’t work as the “text cards” are often waaayyyy too long for the picture assosiacted with so you can’t even try and force this to be funny this game is so criminally unfunny and never hits that “it’s so bad it’s good” tier
The grand final I truly wanted to see was the meme machine going up against The Campaign for North Africa: The Desert War, 1940-43.
the reason: unlike RPS and Adultery that literally have no target audience, The Campaign for North Africa: The Desert War, 1940-43 and What do you meme? actually have a target audience and even their target audience thinks they're horrible.
Yeah it's literally just Apples to Apples with bad art
I feel like the north africa game is just as bad bc i Rather win a game because i can rather than not win a game bc you can’t win
I got it the year it came out when I was in college because cards against humanity was basically all everyone played. We were so excited for a new game like it. And it was just, so bad 🫠 Like everything was 4 years out of date meme wise which is like 25 in internet years. We played it once and then never opened the box again
Nice to see this come to a conclusion. Can't wait for more brackets to relive this event.
This is awesome. Seeing something like this again would be cool. The first part where you showed what the games were doing was really funny too.
Wow, it's so weird this tournament is just 64 inclusions of Catan.
Tf did Catan do to you
And at the #3 seed, we have...SETTLERS OF CATAN: THE NOVEL
I just found this channel very recently, and have finished this whole video. Nearing the end of it, I was laughing and getting hyped for what could win. It was very fun! Thank you for this content.
The Ungame isn't fun to play, it's a therapy tool. But it isn't painful or offensive so it has no chance at being the worst. It's just the worst I've personally "played" because I've done therapy work with it.
As a game, The Ungame seems outdone by Group Therapy which has the added rule of "The rest of the group decides whether they think your answer was sincere or not". So it's not even the worst Therapy-like game in the bracket.
I feel like I'd rather play a celebrity game that's super outdated than a new one because I get to learn about the past rather than a bunch of people I already hear too much about.
Also gay monopoly looks like it kicks ass, how did that end up on here
I honestly have no clue why it was on the bracket in the first place. I agree that it looks like it would kick ass. Yes, it is filled with gay stereotypes, but I get the distinct feeling that they were done as in-jokes that other gay people were supposed to get a chuckle out of rather than anything malicious.
@@kood995 Yeah the game was made by and for gay men to raise money for AIDS research (which makes it pretty messed up that Parker Brothers shut it down, especially considering it's clearly parody).
@@kood995 Yeah it was made by and for gay men and they gave the proceeds to AIDS research (which makes it even more messed up that Parker Brothers cracked down like they did, especially considering it's obviously protected as parody). People who are going "oh my god look at all the stereotypes this is so offensive" are missing the context.
It feels like some of these were more about being wacky & weird than outright bad, or just the fact that he already made videos about them before doing this tournament lol
@ohno5559 not to defend the parker brothers, but i think parodies are only protected under copyright law. this would have been a trademark issue.
(my basic understanding is copyright: i came up with the idea for something, i have the inherent right to be the one to monetize my creativity, and someone infringing on that would be stealing my idea VS trademark: i paid the government money for the right to use certain words or symbols when selling my products in a particular market, ie the board game market, and someone else infringing on that would be confusing consumers about what they're buying.)
We need a best board game tournament! Or maybe best video game to board game adaptation?
I’d only support this just so he’ll talk about Deep Rock Galactic.
Pandemic getting a top seed for sure
What a genuinely fire video. This is exactly the type of stuff i love to see
It's like watching G1 CLIMAX, Super Jr. tournament, 2016 WWE CWC and AEW continental classic.
As a gay, Gay Monopoly doesn't deserve to be on here. Just look at the components and text - it's camp. The board is too gay to have straight edges and it has a "review" from Dorothy Gayle of Kansas for Pete's sake! It's purposefully bad taste but it's simultaneously so accurate in what it sets out to do - describe a certain segment of gay life in the 80s by and for the people living it. I know my friend group would get a kick out of it and if copies weren't so rare, I'd pick up a copy just to play each year during Pride. Saying it belongs because of the stereotypes is totally missing the point and comes across as needless white-knight behavior when the worst aspect is that it's based on Monopoly.
Getting to use the "Super Deck was barely able to beat off Gay Monopoly" almost excuses putting Gay Monopoly in the bracket. Almost ;)
This is a perfect example of liberals being offended on behalf of a minority group they don't belong to when the group themselves are not even bothered at all. I think the same is true of Oi Vey here too. I imagine a lot of Jews would see the humour in it, but a bunch of liberal gentiles are getting butthurt on their behalf.
This looks like it was an incredible amount of work to put together. Immediately subscribed!
Thank you! There were a lot of late nights on this one
"With a long line of victories in it's belt!"
What belt, it's not even wearing pants?
War and Sorry feel like games that have great core mechanics but aren't fun because of over-randomization.
But also both can be completely shaken up by letting players draw a hand of 3-5 cards and play those instead of just drawing
It is surreal to me the level of venom that got thrown at "What shall I be: exciting game of career girls". People actually saying a product of its time makes it as offensive as those two Hammerhead games, or Adultry, or even Oy Vey which is arguably worse- your daughters become house wives.
Even comparing it to Ms. Monopoly. That was a game that should have known how patronizing it was and exactly how it would make every male player feel and went for it anyway. Career Girls was released in 1966.
It is like getting mad at some greatest generation grandparent, it just makes you sound insufferable.
The miss monopoly game is just dumb, Sure women shouldn’t make less than men. But they shouldn’t make MORE than them either. (That is assuming they are doing the same work)
Ms. Monopoly isn't even a game, it's a mean-spirited political statement. They didn't even do that well, seems more like it was designed to show why affirmative action sucks lol
Exactly. Saying a game from 1966 is too stereotypical is crazy. Its like yeah its from 1966. Its literally true to form for the time period
I agree completely. And besides, the careers listed in the game aren’t _bad_ careers, and are still very female-dominated in real life. Half the women on my dad’s side of the family are nurses, for example, and the elementary school I attended growing up had an almost entirely female faculty. As a little girl, I’ve wanted to be a teacher, an actress, and a ballet dancer at various points in my life.
Look at it not only through the lens of its time, but through the lens of a child. A little girl will likely see “model”, “actress”, and “ballet dancer” as glamorous careers that they look up to, and they’re very likely to have encountered teachers, nurses, and flight attendants in real life at that point in time. So those are all careers they already know are possible.
I can't believe I watched a 2 hour video where I felt invested in cheering on what ultimately became the winner and found a newfound curiosity for finding a way to play the North Africa game.
53:35 in dnd you usually have a map you move around on in combat, as such it and in fact most TTRPGS are both pen and paper games AND board games, or at least somewhere in between.
And besides Tick Tac Toe is a pen and paper game but you included it anyway.
I would love to see a worst card game tournament
4:26 we play this everytime our family meets up somewhere around chistmas time, but it’s called left right center and we use actual money instead of tokens, really fun game.
This is such an entertaining video! I did not think I would be so invested
What a great community. I'm jealous of you guys.
it took until i was 27 minutes in to realize it was 2 hours long.
I'm late to the party, but that was such a amazing watch. Huge shout out to the hosts, I was so invested thanks to the excellent presentation ^^
Our pleasure! Thank you for watching!
First time I played War was with a friend I don't talk to anymore a couple of years ago, I told them it just felt like random chance who won or not and they tried convincing me it actually was fun
The sheer excitement and hyping up of all the contestants is infectuous. Makes you want to make a new contender yourself.
I fucking love Phase 10. One mess up and your lead can be over. (And doing a full hand phase is fun to mess with people who don't have it down because it becomes more chaotic. I love it so much that I taught my entire college dorm room floor how to play. THAT was chaos at its finest, and I love it.)
god, phase 10. A snail falling over is more chaotic. Rather play actual rummy
@@logickedmazimoon6001 Opinions are opinions.
I could see myself enjoying it with friends where it’s moreso a background thing for hanging out, but every time I’ve played it was with my family and MAN was it a slog to get through. We’ve never finished a game of it because everyone got bored of it by phase 5. If you like it then more power to you, but unfortunately I am a certified Phase 10 hater.
@@bluejay21. Try Coup
Totopoly is one that should get an honorable mention for being a game of 2 halves where the first half is about getting money and preparing for the race, betting on horses. But money doesn't actually matter because the second half is about getting your horse over the finish line, which involves rolling the EXACT number. So, you end up with a bunch of players at the end needing to roll a 1 to win.
As someone who's been forced to play Phase 10 at multiple family get-togethers, it's quite possibly the single most unbearable game in our game library, my goodness it just DOES NOT END. Note that other games we play include Yahtzee and UNO Triple Play. Also, just gonna say, the sports commentary angle of the presentation leads to a lot of hilarious prospects regarding these games actively trying to one-down eachother in terms of lack of quality.
As someone who plays lcr regularly on every family vacation, use ones instead of tokens and have the pot carry over unless the last person rolls 3 dots (a null roll). Really fun and the commitment of three dollars over winning up 30 per round makes it a lot of fun and something to do with your hands during conversation.
One game that was omitted was the Impractical Jokers Game which is basically just a box full of dares more than a game
"Enimies of the Vanilla Ice Electronic rap game" is now a phrase someone has said and we are all better off for it
I love the pictures of board games “doing things”, so good
Phase 10 even being considered really shocked me. My family had a house rule of "each participant picks one phase and the rest gets ditched", and playing only 3-5 pahses instead of all 10 made it really fun. Also allowed for variety due to different rounds having different sets of phases.
great vid, hadn't enjoy a video this much in a long while
The worst version of candyland was the one my kindergartner's "play" where I have to hold up a colored card based on the color they drew and they say the word. Additionally theres like 3 different games where all you do is draw a card, say the word you get it, don't you don't, and if you pull the specific card you lose all your stuff.
1:21:45 i love the censor bar fading at the same time as the thing it's censoring lmfao
A lot of these feel like "rng bad :(" placements.... Quite a few of these games don't belong here
Eta when the final was announced: Also. Don't call me out like that. I wasn't looking for copy of adultery for my weird boardgame collection. You don't know me. 😭😂😂
if that were true Yachtzee wouldve been on here, but its mostly "rng bad because i have no control"
never thought i’d be on boardgame youtube but im happy to be here
I can't believe Risk didn't make it on this list. All it is is camping in Australia and South America where no army actually makes any significant progress.
it would inevitably get sweeped by campaign for north africa
I did not realise how much I needed this
just now getting into the board game fandom and I recognized a few I used to play when I was younger, PARTICULARLY That worst case scenario survival game….. I remember it just kind of sat with everything else, nobody ever wanted to play it, and the one or two times we did it was back on the shelf in 5 minutes. The only good thing about it I remember was me, a little nerd, thought the information on the cards were neat, even though the woeful boringness made me tired after reading like 3 cards max. Sincerely a horrible game, just read the book series.
The tonal contrast of The Campaign for North Africa vs Doggie Doo had me dying lmao
completely unreasonable that sorry is on the bracket at all
1:31:19 " helps people learn communicate better" that made me laugh. Great video :)
As a person who collects antique board games this video has broadened my horizons 😊
I’m wondering where Exploding Kittens (the base game, as I’m not too familiar with the expansions) fares on this list. Seems to be pretty random to me outside of a few cards, but even getting those cards is random.
As someone who’s played a lot of it there is a decent amount of strategy involved especially with the expansions
30:55 LOLOLOL I truly love that someone took some bondage gear and sold it as a game. I think they are trying to say their safe word.
Thanks you fpr making such entertaining event
Here's a question for W.W.B. How fast can you make a computer play legal games of it? I don't mean roll for every move. What I mean is generate believable l games which can be searched in an arbitrary fashion, which are stable, which do not have any statistical biased, and which have a known ending point.
To clarify, are you asking for the average amount of rolls to beat it?
I can confirm from myself and others tackling the problem that the exact average number of turns for a solo game of W.W.B. is 2.822 * 10^79, and that most computers that simulate playing the game crash somewhere after trillions of rounds have gone by. This thing is not simulable on any human time scale, but you can represent it with a stock-and-flow model and matrix operations to get the averages for games with less squares in it, and from there it's possible to find the higher ones recursively. From what I've found, the average for two players is somewhere around 3.237 * 10^79, but from the way I calculated that it's almost guaranteed to be slightly higher than that. It might be possible to get the exact answer, but safe to say it would be complicated to calculate.
seeing "Candyland is a simulation of a board game" killed me