Train Simulator 2016 - Route Learning: London Victoria to Brighton via Redhill (Class 377)
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- In this next route learning video, we take a Southern Class 377 from London Victoria to Brighton on a stopping service via Redhill. We follow the timetable of train 2A16, the 06:17am departure from Victoria. Along the way we call at Clapham Junction, East Croydon, Purley, Coulsdon South, Merstham, Redhill, Horley, Gatwick Airport, Three Bridges, Haywards Heath, Wivelsfield, Burgess Hill, Hassocks, Preston Park and Brighton.
Please note that the blank signal at the end of Merstham platform is supposed to be a diverging route flashing double yellow aspect.
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Takes me back to this summer. My GF is from Brighton so I visited from the USA for a month. Took the Southern from London a few times so it’s cool to see it in a video.
Great work!
Great Video, I sign that route, and this is pretty accurate but there are no flashing yellows at stoats nest junction in real life, and no flashing yellow at Purley Oaks or Merstham. It seems that the developers have put flashing yellows approaching every junction. Your commentary is excellent keep up the good work.
Hi,
How do you manage to drive to a timetable, without the HUD? There is no clock in most cabs.
As usual, very well prepared video. thanks.
Edgar
+ES_BAHN I turn on the HUD at stops so I can keep an eye on the time. But that's edited out of these videos :)
Just having a rewatch of this. Such a nice morning run down from Victoria with lots of busy AI around the train you're driving.
Before you start driving, can you show a map of the route you will be taking on every video?
+Josef Walls that's not a bad idea and something I will consider for the future :)
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Was in london recently and stayed in East croydon, so I got to ride this route from East Croydon to London victoria a few times - so nice to see it in your video :-)
Just so you know, the running brake checks should be made by drivers on every train when they take it over:
"4.6 Carrying out a running brake test You must test that the automatic brake is working properly by carrying out a running brake test. When you carry out a running brake test, you must do so from a speed that is high enough for you to be sure that: • the brake is operating effectively • the speed of the train is being reduced.
Locomotive-hauled trains and HSTs You must carry out the running brake test at the first opportunity after beginning the journey. You must, if possible, also carry out a running brake test in good time before approaching: • the first stopping place • a crossing place on a single line • a steep falling gradient • a terminus or dead-end platform line.
Multiple-unit trains When working multiple-unit trains you must carry out the running brake test as shown in your train operating company instructions."
Great video as always!
+DistrictDriver The only place I know of thats done is at Eastbourne. I've never known Southern to do a running brake test anywhere else. :)
Just amazing detail you give whilst driving... excellent vid !
+pierre verwey Thank you, I really appreciate it! :)
Splendid video as always. Many thanks.
+Zulnex Thank you! :)
I didn't even know about the speed set. That's a lifesaver since I sometimes go over the speed limit.
Another great and informative video, i remember driving this route quite a lot on the old MSTS.
+Sean Duff (Duffers) thanks. Same here! There's a few TS routes I remember playing a lot in TS. :)
Excellent commentary Peter. Your rig does a grand job with train sim.
omg its so realistic, merstham and redhill represent
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Best video by far! The business of the timetable added to the video and I really enjoyed it :)
+William Houston Thank you! I tried to make the AI traffic as realistic as possible. Glad you enjoyed the video :)
You sound like a driver announcement
awesome video as ever Pete. Lots of info that I didn't know about. I'll be running along here soon as will be going to Gatwick on a Reading to Gatwick Airport service :-)
+William Mankelow thanks Will. I'm glad I could help you learn more about the route. I also hope you enjoy your run along here soon! :)
Really loved this video, comparing it with previous ones your driving technique is excellent now, if you ever drove a train I was on I'd feel completely safe. Just one thing: I seem to remember from a previous video (can't remember which one) you said that it would be helpful if there was a document or something which detailed things such as line speeds and distances. So in relation to that, I don't know if you have heard of the Network Rail sectional appendix. If not this is an official document that gives up to date linespeeds, route distances and diagrams as well as operating rules such as use of the DRA, higher permissible speeds (MU and HST speed limits etc) and running brake tests and so forth. While only pertinent to Train Simulator on accurately modelled routes and can be an interesting read and can be useful for finding out good locations to watch trains at speed. For the sectional appendices simply type into Google: Network Rail sectional appendix and then the area (Scotland, London North Eastern, Anglia etc.) Hope this is of use to you in some way, thank you very much for taking the time to make this and your other videos and I look forward to the next one immensely. Regards, Ben.
+Ben Reid thanks Ben. I appreciate that! I always aim to drive as realistically as possible in TS. I will check out the sectional appendix and see if I can make any use of it. Many thanks for your comment :)
I have boarded/alighted from the fast line platform at Purley in real life, but it is very rare...
A fine video Peter. The images are really sharp and your comments are very informative. Roger Crick
+Roger Crick thank you Roger. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed this video. I tried to make the commentary as informative as I could :)
The line to Sutton via Mitcham Junction turns of after Balham as well and it's my local line through carshalton which is my local station
Michael Campbell my station is Epsom
Via Sutton and Ewell East
Isaac Hanakuka my station is Hurst Green
+PTGRail
Southern trains do regular services to London Bridge and I've been on that service once which was the fast service calling at Norwood Junction and London Bridge. It also passes through a few London Overground Stations along the way.
+TrainNutter MC They do indeed run regular services to London Bridge, I've been on a few of them in my time :)
Quite a few Brighton-London Bridge services are run by Thameslink though.
Welcome aboard this southen service to Brighton
Great video! May I ask. Along your other videos that I have have watched the background has been very realistic like the weather and that. Have you purchased the weather enhancement pack from Armstrong powerhouse along with the train. I also like the sound when other trains go past. Also how do you make your own scenario? Love to see how! Final question are the AI trains (computer trains) are they enhanced or just normal?
What was the Gatwick Express 442 doing in Burgess Hill Station? They don't stop there. I know that they go to Brighton but the only call at Gatwick?
+MrDreamliner They haven't always only called at Gatwick; that happens now due to a recent timetable change. Certain morning and evening services were operated using Class 442s on London to Brighton runs with more stops.
I think there is some GX services that stop at Burgess Hill sometimes
South Western Trainspotter & Buses peak times, they stop at three bridges, Haywards heath and also burgess Hill right
my uncle lives outside london nearby a staion called coulsden south and i have been on the southern trains before the trains are so cool
did you mean for the class 377 to be a class 377/2
I didn't really think about which subclass it was. it defaults to the /2 lol
I saw a gatwick express class 442 stopped at calpham junction on thursday afternoon on a passenger service
+karen campbell They won't be around on the Brighton Main Line for too much longer. They're great trains though :)
yeah
+PTGRail Southern are keeping 6 sets, all paired up, until 2018 for the Eastbourne / Brighton - London Bridge peak services. Not sure which units are being kept though
Nicely done!
/Stephen Odgaard
Is there any way to find out which Brighton services are/were 4 coaches or 8 coaches?
another great video very helpful
+Chicken Gamer Thanks :)
I think there is an error in this route. The 75mph speed board after the second signal after clayton tunnel is not correct. The 75mph speed board just before the next tunnel is, so I think that the first speed board in reality is actually a morpeth board.
You are correct on that. In the opposite direction the 90mph speed limit starts before Patcham Tunnel in reality, but it doesn't start until close to Clayton Tunnel in TS. The 60mph speed limit at Balham also starts too early in the up direction.
These videos are great. Its quite difficult to learn the route lol. Your commentry is very good and you've got a nice calm clear voice for it. :) nice videos mate!
A question. when starting from a station, do you put the 377 into full throttle or do you notch it up one by one?
+JintySteam Thanks! It really is a challenge to learn routes and drive them without the use of the HUD. I'm glad you enjoy these videos :)
When starting the Class 377, I start in notch one of power and then gradually but quickly increase to full power. I'm usually in notch for by the time the train is doing 10-12mph :)
Now available on Train Sim World when will Overground be released?
Woo! My local station of Redhill!
Nice video, helpful and very precise.
+ronnoc1k8 Thanks :)
Amazing video! Just a question, where do you gather all the information regarding all those trains schedules? I'm also trying to create some scenarios with realistic timetables for myself aswell, but i can't find an website with all the information i need to do so. I would appreciate an answer! :)
I think opentraintime may help you.
but you have to take a screenshot if you want to keep the data, it will disappear on the website after few weeks.
Question: can a southen 313 go to Southampton cehtral or Chichester
Have/will you do a tutorial on the Portsmouth direct line?
I do indeed. One of my oldest videos covers the route between Woking and Portsmouth in a Class 444. A more recent video sees me cover the journey in the opposite direction in a Class 423. Both are available on the channel :)
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Dude they do stop at Three Briges Gatw8ck express
I do Brighton on my TSW on my PS4 really cool idea
How do you get different and better sounds on trains than me? Please send me a link of the website.
Type in Armstrong Powerhouse on Google. They have a variety of sound packs, multiple unit packs, scenario packs, enhancements and more.
I love your way of explaining every detail. You have a way better articulation than I have. Do you have any tips on voice projection? Very nice video and train, i'm considering buying a english and US commuter route for ts 2016! Do you have any suggestions on any particular one? thanks
+MrZEALOT98 Thank you, I really appreciate it! I don't really have any tips per se.. I'm not a fan of the sound of my own voice haha XD I don't know which routes you currently have for TS.. but my favourite has to be London to Brighton. :)
Thanks I need more steam money though! haha, I have the default routes(Sherman Hill, Koln-Koblenz, etc.) Are the English routes frame rate friendly?
Hi Peter love the video!After watching many of your videos, you have inspired me to get the game itself! Thank you!I have a few questions:How do you press the close door/interlock button using the keyboard?(assuming that is what you press twice when the doors are closed in reply to the conductors two)How do you open the windows using the keyboard?(If possible)How do you adjust the speed set using the keyboard?(Again if possible)Finally, please may you make a 5 minute video of the cab inside the 377. Could this be a video which tells us what every single button does and how to press it on the keyboard?Thanks
+Michael Farr Thanks! I hope that you enjoy this game when you get it! :) The doors close themselves on the majority of trains within TS so the process is automatic. When stopping at a station though, you need to open the doors by pressing 'T' (even on slam door trains lol!). After the doors have closed, on some trains you will hear a buzzer or bell, and then you press a key to respond. This key can vary depending on the train and whether or not you have a sound pack installed.. but is usually 'C' or 'N'. As far as I know you can't open the windows with the keyboard, so I used the mouse. Just click and drag. The same with the speed set on this particular unit - you have to click and drag it. On some other units with speed sets, you operate it with the 'Y' and 'C' keys. It really does depend on the train. As for the video request, I will take it into consideration as part of my 'train guide' series of videos. :)
May I just point that you were using a 25kv capable Class 377 (the /2). These don't (or very rarely) run on the Brighton Mainline for Southern. They are operated between Bedford and Brighton for Thameslink.
I'm aware of that. I just placed it in and TS defaults the number to one for a 377/2 and I didn't think to change it.
I'm aware of that. I just placed it in and TS defaults the number to one for a 377/2 and I didn't think to change it.
Ah, no harm done then. :)
Hi plese could you do a morpeth to metro centre route learning video calling at cramlington, manors, Newcastle and metro centre in a class 142 pacer
It would be nice if you added re-skins to you scenarios
+Factory Chase I do where they are needed. In this case, the scenario is based a couple of years ago in the FCC era. The reason for this is that I would be asking people on Steam workshop to download too many reskins to make this scenario to work otherwise.
How long did it take you to make a scenario with so much AI movement like this?
hi can I purchase some of your Routes & scenario's please
Great video! You could have also done the run as the "train of shame" which is the 7:29 Brighton to London service. It's called that because in one month, in never ran on time at any day. Also, is this route Quickdrive compatible?
+Highspeedline01 thanks! Haha maybe I should do that one on another video with lots of red signals? Now that I use Southern trains at least four days a week, I can say there are a few of those 'trains of shame' lol :p
+Highspeedline01 and yes the route is quick drive compatible :)
hi please could you do a par to Penzance route learinig video calling at st austell, turo,redruth, cambome, st erth and penzance
+Cameron Bussy Unfortunately that's not currently possible as that route doesn't exist within Train Simulator.
Peter watch out Gatwick Express do stop at Clapham Junction!!!!!!!!!!
Hi plese can you do a Newcastle to midlesbourgh rout learning video calling at heworth, sunderland,seaham,hartlepool, seaton carew,billingham,stokton,thornaby and midlesbourgh in a class 142 pacer
My god, please do your fucking research before mithering. That route doesn't exist in train simulator. Not every damn route in existence is in TS you know.
did the other 377 at redhill come from guildford or tonbridge
+Colin Engelbert it was coming from Reigate on the Guildford line :)
Yeah, whenever I'm at a station where it's fast line platforms don't have any trains stopping there, it just makes me annoyed as why bother making 2 platforms with an entrance, full platform and train time boards if no train is going to stop there in the first place! I just see it as a waste, and if they did keep them, at least use them for something useful!
ok
You forgot Wivisfield in the description
+Sydney Trains Facts & Trivia It's there now :)
nice vid man
Do you go to the uni in Falmer or the one in Brighton?
+Toby Harris I go to the University of Sussex campus in Falmer :)
Great video Pete but I feel like I'm dying of excitement here. Any news on the livestream and when roughly it will take place? Once again, great video.
+TheBVE2010 thanks! I haven't been able to think of streaming recently due to not having the time. However, I've got a 6-week Christmas holiday coming up next month so I'm hoping to be able to do something then :)
Is this part of the actual base game of Train Simulator 2016 or are these addon/DLCs? I want to get TS2016 from Steam but there are so many bad reviews in the Steam comments that I'm almost put-off getting it.
+Nunsweepit421 The routes and trains which are part of the base game change every year. I bought this as an addon DLC back in 2012 when it was released. I wouldn't let the comments put you off. If you like trains and want to try driving them, this really is the best software we currently have for it :)
+Nunsweepit421 I have read those reviews too. They all seem to be by people who have no clue how rail systems operate and are nor prepared to learn. Don't let them put you off.
I'm not sure if it's me, but at Merstham, there was no signal aspect at the end of the station.
+Harry Nim you're correct. Unfortunately there's a bug in TS so sometimes flashing diverging route aspects show up as blank signals.
Ok, thank you with that
By the way PTG you missed out a couple of stops in the description! Other than that great vid!
How do you know where everything is???
+lovekey901 By driving the route several times to learn it and make notes. Then I become familiar with all of the speed limits and braking points :)
Do a east midlands train to liverpool lime street from norwich
ptg rail how come there was no aws warning for 80mph speed limit becofe Merstham tunnel?
+Sam Rogers Not all Morpeth boards have AWS warnings, especially if it's not a large drop in the speed limit :)
Oml what game is this called
Does this train come with the game or is it an addon
+samdude29 This train comes with the London to Brighton route add on.
A fabulous video! Much enjoyed it :)
I'll be sending you a FB message about an Irish route.
+Enterprising Rail Films Thank you! Glad you enjoyed this video. I will check my Facebook soon :)
+PTGRail Your very welcome, that's good to hear :)
+PTGRail Your FOV seems further back than you're normally able to, how to you do this?
I like your video
also a route from London Waterloo to Guilford in class 444
U can't go from Waterloo 😭
+Parfait Sengomona yes you can... The route just isn't 100% finished.
+Parfait Sengomona You can
This was published the day before my birthday xD
+Mr Dreamliner Happy belated birthday lol xD
PTGRail Thanks xD
+PTGRail please can you do the service from st pancras thameslink to brighton??
No one cares
What would be awesome, is if you created a custom controller, and use an oculus rift. Would make it very immersive!
+Mario2Sonic haha I'd love to play TS on something like that! XD
PTGRail Would be extremely interesting to watch as it would be like you were actually in the cab of the trains rather than having your head stuck to the wall the entire time. ;)
There is track ir which tracks your head
Sydney Trains Facts & Trivia That would work too if PTG didn't want to make it immersive. Don't know how that would work though.
+Sydney Trains Facts & Trivia I am already using a RailDriver and Voice Control (for things like map, task list, the different views, save etc), and the TrackIR is next on the list. I think it will add a LOT to the "imurshun".
While at stations can you stay in the cab and not cut out the time
+Callum Ayres The problem if I do that is it's not that visually interesting for most viewers. Plus if I'm stopped for a few minutes in the cab view, that means I need to find something to say whilst I'm stopped or it would get very boring very quickly lol XD
+PTGRail fair enough :)
I used to live on this line I now live on the line from Penzance to Paddington line
you missed Wivelsfield in the description
+Sam Rogers It's there now :)
+PTGRail i hope they add Blackfriars and Farringdon because thameslink trains dont finish at st Pancras
i went to Brighton station on holiday it looks so so similare
Why do ts16 put great northern as first capital connect they lost the route and they have also missed out station Bowes Park, Grange Park Enfieled chase.
+Jebraan Yacub Because they made the trains and route while FCC still existed.
but that does not make sense because it has been Great Northern since 2014.
Jebraan Yacub It has been Great Northern for around a year. The London to Brighton route, the FCC Class 377 and the FCC Class 319 all came out before it became Great Northern.
Could you do a video about how to make a scenario?
+ericen_13 Indeed, it's something I'm considering for the future :)
I will be a train driver when I am big so I could tell you stuff if that will be helpful. Could you do a Edinburgh to London's king cross or Glasgow central to London euston or the other way round I am one of your sub's
can you do a train from eastbourne to London Victoria pls😀
you are amazing ptgrail can you do a route from London Euston to Crewe in a London midland class 150
thats not possible. you mean class 350.
Unfortunately, Not all of the WCML is added in train sim, I'd love to see Euston implemented in the game but that route just doesn't exist in game.
+Will Jones me too probably in future dlc
+Will Jones There is a UKTS route that goes from Euston-Birmingham New Street
great Vid although the pronunciation of Merstham is wrong. 'Mers~stram'
Did you know the 08:0
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I drive 4 days at that route. It is not easy in real life. It takes 1H 30M 55SEC
I like it to
also at 34:39 there was a bug with the signal
+Sam Rogers Indeed, a Train Simulator bug. It should have been a diverging route flashing double yellow. It happens in TS sometimes.
get this train nearly every day
ptgrail can you do route from manchester to Liverpool lime Street in arriva class 158 or a route from London Waterloo to Alton Im a class 450
I can do Manchester to Liverpool though I may use a different unit to that. :)
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On realtime trains it says the chiltern mainline service to Birmingham is operated by a 158!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
+Oliver Blake It often says that when referring to modern DMUs. It says that about Southern Class 171s too.
377s have a nice intier
+Evan Boyce Some are ok, some not so good lol
the class 313 come to Chichester too
And as far as Portsmouth at times I think?
+PTGRail yeah they only go as far as Portsmouth
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Yes?
from crawley to hastings please
Not currently possible as the route doesn't exist in the game.
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how do you get this route
You can purchase it on Steam. :)
+PTGRail how much 😕
Where do you find the timetables?
Realtimetrains.co.uk
+ericen_13 Indeed, the Real Time Trains website is what I use :)
+PTGRail how can I see what train and how many train set driving on the train services?
You jave to search up a station then pick any service but not all services say what train as it will say EMU or class 150/152/155/156 but nost should have it
Sometimes
Jesús Chris he goes on a bit
That's what the series is about, idiot. Facts and learning the routes.
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What is the noise at 12:37 XD
+Mil Pop Oops. That's the end of my cue so I know where to line up the commentary track with the video. I always cut it out, but it seems I accidentally left the very end of it in.
xD
4 car train in the class 450