Svetlana Boginskaya vs Daniela Silivas: {1989 Europeans}

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  • @Jajadore
    @Jajadore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I remember this so well! I was so frustrated Daniela did not win. In 1988 losing from Shushu and now from Bogi....Daniela was my favorite but I also loved Boguinskaya.

  • @unknownuser_99
    @unknownuser_99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Since everyone is listing iconic rivalries, here's mine: Gutsu vs Miller, Khorkina vs Patterson, Johnson vs Liukin, Mustafina vs Raisman, Shushunova vs Silivas, Korbut vs Tourischeva, Komova vs Douglas, Szabo vs Retton, Comaneci vs Mukhina...

    • @pepepadiglia9931
      @pepepadiglia9931 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Comaneci vs Mukhina.

    • @unknownuser_99
      @unknownuser_99 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@pepepadiglia9931 How could I have forgotten?

    • @gymfan4755
      @gymfan4755 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would put gabby vs jordyn

  • @JimmyJam2482
    @JimmyJam2482 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I'm thinking it was a last minute decision to put the full-in as a dismount. I don't think they would have thrown her a 10 without it.

    • @unknownuser-r5o
      @unknownuser-r5o ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So risky!! She was brave. Really deserved the gold

  • @petruflorin
    @petruflorin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    beyond what the judges decide and the politics involved, there is always the performance of the gymnast that may or may not stand the test of time :-)

  • @admetric
    @admetric 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    They never spoke. Daniela did not speak Russian and Bogi did not speak Romanian. Later after coming to the USA they became friends when they both learned English and found Facebook.

  • @unknown-lf6zx
    @unknown-lf6zx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My two favorite gymnasts of all time and elana as well

  • @jackkempson6570
    @jackkempson6570 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Omg is this a new series! First Rivalries that I think of are: shush vs silivas, gutsu vs Miller, Khorkina vs Patterson, szabo and Mary Lou and Komova vs Weiber!

  • @jfgs930
    @jfgs930 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Surprised to see Daniela not get a 10 with a performance I didn’t see any flaws in, but Svetlana had one landing she bounced out of and another with her chest/shoulders very low, and still got a 10. Maybe I don’t understand the code from that quad?

  • @abc12356659
    @abc12356659 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That was beautiful! Both women are completely amazing!

  • @miucosmin243
    @miucosmin243 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Era și de așteptat!! Chiar cu greșeli majore, Svetlana tot lua nota maxima!!!

  • @adrianoyu
    @adrianoyu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    silivas and shushunova

  • @akimbohr
    @akimbohr ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6 judges on floor:
    Silivas:10,10,10,10, 9.95,9.95.
    Boguin:10,10,10,10, 10,9.95.
    As far as I can remember the last 2 judges were from FRA and POR

  • @lucianjpf1637
    @lucianjpf1637 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bogi tem um talento para dança moderna que faz a diferença no solo. Ela brilha como uma estrela de balé 🩰. Silivas é boa, mas pouca dança 💃 que anima.

    • @cecilianovais212
      @cecilianovais212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      eu adoro a dança do robozinho nesse solo da Daniela

    • @marwahussein666
      @marwahussein666 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Mentira, a dança da Silivaş era incrível

    • @ricardoabreu7788
      @ricardoabreu7788 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cecilianovais212é a minha parte favorita da coreografia dela!
      Minha ginasta favorita ❤

  • @mayrar.figueroa7477
    @mayrar.figueroa7477 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Bonguiskaya mi favorita es un cosne elegante como ninguna otra, ademas ese porte, su estatura le ayuda a su elegancia

  • @mariadanila4170
    @mariadanila4170 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Super! Daniela Silivas❤❤❤

  • @enchantedella6495
    @enchantedella6495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Boginskaya has visible issues on her first two landings. Not sure how she got a ten.

    • @mrparts
      @mrparts 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      At the time, 10s were not indicative of “perfection”. In this case 10 was the score to rank Boguinskaya higher than Silivas.

    • @enchantedella6495
      @enchantedella6495 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@mrparts Ten's were 100% supposed to represent perfection. If they didn't over score Silivas they woudn't have needed the ten to give Boginskaya the win. A

    • @user-lt1vl4te1o
      @user-lt1vl4te1o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Cheating judges.

    • @objetivista686
      @objetivista686 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Soviet Union favoritism

    • @Cmc995
      @Cmc995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I’d say Daniela’s landings were perfect but Svetlana had a bit more content in her exercise that garnered a 10 score

  • @MargauxKim_13
    @MargauxKim_13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Silivas was better. Boginskaya got more height on the big jumps but Silivas had better technique.

  • @manuhd0645
    @manuhd0645 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't t get understand why Daniela didn't get a ten on floor. It was perfect or at least so perfect as Bogy' s

    • @amandine2239
      @amandine2239 ปีที่แล้ว

      Boginskaya had more difficulty and better choreography. By the 80s perfect execution wasn’t the only factor anymore

    • @manuhd0645
      @manuhd0645 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@amandine2239
      more difficulty?
      only the third pass.
      The first and second, with a double pass, those of Silivas were more complex

    • @amandine2239
      @amandine2239 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes but finishing with a hard pass gets extra points @@manuhd0645

    • @rolandgreen7484
      @rolandgreen7484 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@manuhd0645 A full twisting double pike is more difficult than a whip to a full twisting double tuck which Silivas did.

  • @unknownuser-r5o
    @unknownuser-r5o ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Boginskaya floor routine it’s the most dramatic in history. Very very original. The USA and Romania never had artistry and interpretation, just tumbling

    • @soledadferrer1325
      @soledadferrer1325 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Don't you think Silivas routine is artistic?

  • @christinefaithaplaon6840
    @christinefaithaplaon6840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    that leotard Svetlana wore was slo the one Marina Lobatch wore in 1988 Olympics in RG, and Svetlana wore it in 1992 Olympics

  • @dennandrian9854
    @dennandrian9854 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Silivas VS shushunova ..best battle for one.🏅👍❤️

  • @marciapimentel8037
    @marciapimentel8037 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantástico

  • @giuliopisani6522
    @giuliopisani6522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    non c è paragone la silivas è troppo più forte!!!!

  • @yuiop6611
    @yuiop6611 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They should have tied.

  • @jameere3005
    @jameere3005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i feel like kyla ross and simone biles could be on or komova v.s the americans.

    • @admetric
      @admetric 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ross Vs Biles? How?

    • @jameere3005
      @jameere3005 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@admetric they we put head to head during last quad untill kyla quit in 2015

    • @jameere3005
      @jameere3005 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@admetric from like us championships 2013 then worlds in 2013 than the same next year then the year after

    • @admetric
      @admetric 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jameere3005 oh i see. I forgot about that whole episode....thanks

  • @mylleroliveira4369
    @mylleroliveira4369 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The bulginskaya dance floor 🤮🤮

  • @georgeyog331
    @georgeyog331 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a pity

  • @alecsandraii2354
    @alecsandraii2354 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Bogakaya 👎 segundo escalão frente Silivas

    • @DJDiegoGarcia
      @DJDiegoGarcia 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Boginskaya, segundo escalão??? cê jura, nean?!?! A bunita bi-campeã olímpica! Kkk

    • @marwahussein666
      @marwahussein666 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DJDiegoGarcia Silivaş foi melhor nas aterrissagens mas parecia chateada

  • @kundun5
    @kundun5 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Svetlana brought you to the Bolshoi Bañlet. SilIVAS COULD NEVER😢