2024 Chevy Silverado 3500 Gas L8T Towing Fifth Wheel: First Impressions + I Solved My Concerns
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- I finally get a chance to hook the fifth wheel up to my new 2024 Chevy Silverado 3500 gas L8T! I also solved some concerns I had with this truck. || Like || Subscribe || Share || #2024ChevyHD #l8t
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FYI (and I’m sure someone else mentioned this) - The light test continuously runs through signal lights/brake lights/etc so you can physically go outside behind the trailer and check them….. rather than putting your turn signal on manually and going check… having someone else check.. etc
Try launching the truck with tow mode on and no trailer. My Titan had a slower launch but did better in tow mode.
Regular operation the trans is looking for efficiency, but in tow mode it delivers more power.
That is one badass truck I want one
What are your thoughts on the gasser 2500 towing a momentum 320g? Technically, all weights are in spec. Just would like your thoughts on it. Haven't towed heavy yet eith this truck.
Would appreciate seeing a realistic towing video with your 6.6 gas and that trailer to get a fair idea on Mpg. Even a video with your smaller camper that's shown at the end of this video. Love the content you put out and keep doing what you do
That’s the same thing you said about your high output Ram with the Asian transmission
I know on the diesel it starts in 2nd gear when you're not in tow haul mode, in tow haul mode it starts in 1st gear, this is with the 10 speed trans
Great Video👍
I believe the gm 10 speed is shifting into all 10 gears . Each shift it momentarily cuts power . The six speed cuts power less The ford skips gears when it isn’t under load .
I have a jayco jay feather 25rb. It wieghts 7000lbs max, I don't tow that often. Do I need a gasser hd or a diesel?
Let’s make this really really hot and take it up a 8% grade
ford does it as well!! tailgate flex
Wow, that's crazy, I love the gas engines
Good for weekend RV travel and grocery hauls. Serious fulltime RV 5th wheel travel….do not think about gas. 🤷🏻♂️ is what it is.
@@diamondhead203 why not? If within towing specs
@@Billybob50119 well, it’s fine if you plan on replacing your truck often. The main factor to consider is that gas engines even within specs is their longevity. Gas engines when towing after around 100k-150k typically need major engine repair. Where your typical Diesel engine pulling within its specs …you’re looking at 250k-300k miles before major work. For $10k more when buying a truck….you’re getting more power, better fuel, and better longevity out of your engine. I’m not sure why everyone is afraid these days of diesel engines. If you stay on top of your maintenance…..let the engines regen properly…they are way more dependable than gas. I have owned many diesel trucks and wouldn’t trade my current diesel for anything. 2022 Ram 3500 Cummins.
@@diamondhead203that's what the vast majority of people need. Diesels should be in the vast minority of trucks on the road but purists often act like weekend warriors should just not bother or get a diesel anyway, rather than go gas.
@@diamondhead203most people won't town that many miles before upgrading.
Low range on fuel and my man is out here doing 0-60s loaded. My anxiety could never.
Somwhere on the interwebs i heard or read that the 3500 is throttled back until 2500 miles. I cant find that info again but maybe its true.
Why not add ram air to gas the 6.6 gas hd Silverado line up?
Why add it if it doesn’t need it?
I really like the camera view of when you are turning, it’s really clear in the screen. Nice feature. Thanks for the videos JB.
Why did you use a Allison logo? Nothing is Allison on that truck
Yank, yank, yank…
And i wonder if the ram air design plays a part on throttle respond, just thinking.
Nice video, hey JB, I have a 2023 Chevy Duramax and I have not been able to set my TMPS in my truck for my new 5th wheel I did use that TMPS tool that you had I even order the same one you have through Amazon but I did not setup, so I gave up and sent it back, what am I doing wrong?
I'm a GM fanboy so I'm anxious to see the real test of towing your 5th wheel up a steep grade with the gasser. I'm curious to see if it will maintain speed while climbing a 6% or steeper grade. I towed my 8k travel trailer with a 21 Ram 2500 6.4 Hemi and it did well pulling a steep grade but the engine was screaming the whole time and got 8.5 mpg. Also, I think it would be beneficial to show off the trailer light test in more detail. It will ruffle the RAM/Ford fan boys feathers even more when they see that you can test every trailer light without having to walk back and forth several times.
Run unloaded in tow haul mode and compare the times.
What are your trailer specs? I have a 5th wheel that is 9000 lbs dry. I want a gas truck to tow it and I'm leaning towards the GMC sierra 2500 gas.
Your next video for the 3500 Gasser with the fifth wheel less take it to a 10% grade really really work that truck
You should try the zero to 60 with tow haul on see if improves the time
How did you change the display on tour cluster and infotainment? Just took the plunge and bought a 2024 2500hd LTZ. Not too pleased with the mpg so far.. Hoping it improves once broken in
Have you had the issue where sound completely cuts out (no audio inputs work, turn signals make no noise, etc.)? I have a 2024 AT4 HD gasser and had this issue pop up around 450 miles. It happened after I used remote start for the first time, so I'll have to test to see if that causes it...
Love the videos, though. Keep 'em coming!
How are you enjoying your AT4 HD gas? That's what I'm leaning towards. Would be coming from a F250 Diesel towing a 9,000lb trailer one weekend a month.
@@UnravelingMysteriesX I love it so far. I drove an F250 with the 7.3 and it just felt like a tank compared to the GM vehicles. Steering and handling is so much better. As JB says, the 6.6L gas isn't super fast, but it's so smooth with the new 10 speed. The interior is great as well with the refresh. Only issue I've had is that one instance of the sound cutting out, but restarting the stereo fixed it and it hasn't happened again. Fingers crossed...
But I think the gasser would be perfect for your use and that size trailer. We tow a fair amount in the summer, but not enough to justify the ~$10k more for a diesel (with all its maintenance and emissions nonsense).
I have an at4 hd gasser on order and coming from an lbz duramax. Excited for the new truck but also going to miss my current hd
I know why it needs upgraded intake 800 more power to it
Try a 0 to 60 empty
with tow haul mode on!
Try empty 0-60 with tow/haul mode on. Might help.
Ya even with the bed camera it's not always easy, just easier. Not sure if I like Ford's implementation where they have a target line that you visually line up to where the pin should be, or GM's where they just let you see the pin so that a line isn't blocking it. I don't know how Ram handles their bed targeting.
Nope I rarely ever use it anymore, it actually throws me off as you saw in the video lol 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork It would probably be best to have the camera at the height of the front bed rail so you can SEE the pin and line it up clearly. Or, mount the camera inside the rear window and get most of the same effect as having it in the CHMSL.
As for my 5W hookup, I get the truck as lined up as possible by eyeballing the rear mirrors, then turn on the bed camera for a basic guide, but turn and lean back to look through the center rear while adjusting steering with my left arm as I back up. That works best for me.
On your solo 0-60 runs, are you turning traction control and stabilitrac off? FYI transmissions are the same except for programming
May I ask what transmissions are the same? If you are referring to the one in the diesel, they are definitely not the same.
@@JetTech1966 yes they are except for programming and torque converter difference
@@Billybob50119 Sorry buddy, but they are not....Please do more research on them ok...I promise you, they are not the same.
@@JetTech1966please let me know what else is different with sources.
@@Billybob50119 I was curious about this too, many people claiming it was the exact same transmission from the diesel. So I asked that question on a GM forum and a guy that works on GM's said no. The clutches, convertor, solenoids are all different part#s. They are for a lighter duty load. Remember the diesel trans has to be rated to at least 1200lb ft of torque. I was thinking no way are they going to that same trans behind the gasser. And he confirmed it. Totally different part #s and he also mentioned less clutches. I hope this helps.
2024 Ford's tailgate will go up with the push of a button :) Still considering the shift to GM though. Really like the look of the AT4X.
The surprising thing about Ford's electronic up-down tailgate is that it doesn't compensate for bumper hitch setups that are too high. I just watched a 2023 F-450 press video where the Ford engineer had to hand-stop the tailgate from dropping all the way because their test pintle hitch would have put a crater in a brand new Limited truck's gate. I get that adding a stop feature would add more weight and complexity, but it could at least fire a warning and refuse to drop the gate if an obstruction is detected, kinda like a garage door.
@@SurelyYewJest well my trucks tailgate won’t stop either when I was hooked up to my black trailer 👀
My 2021 Chevy 2500 LTZ has the same feature. I can lower and raise my tailgate by a push of a button or from my key fob.
@@JB_WhoWork Ugh. Then maybe they should also put in a detent where the drop stops mechanically at 70-80 degrees, then continues down if you hit the fob button again, or something.
Chevy ever get an EB? Or is it still just a button that does nothing...on the Diesel
Look forward to more content with that beautiful going up and down the grades. It would be great to get your impressions on that same run to Park City on I80 that you ran with the dually. I appreciate the video.
I dunno bro? The engine is making a lot of noise but the speedo is just creeping up lol. But good on you for staying positive😂
I can tell it’s pulling a little harder, I noticed the same thing when I pulled the black trailer and the 0-60 was better than the L8T/6 speed hooked up to the trailer as well. I chose to be positive this time around 😂
I think the performance “gains” with the trailer are psychological. Going by the video timestamps, your 0-47 was roughly 20 seconds. Maybe tow/haul is helping it hold gears longer & sounds more aggressive.
Regarding torque management, I don’t see why it would be more active when empty vs towing, it seems they would need to protect the drivetrain most when loaded. Also, I’m reasonably sure, GM marketing (maybe just fanboys) have touted the fact that their trucks (diesels at least) don’t use torque management like the competition does.
Tow hual mode uses 1st gear. With out tow hual on truck starts out in 2nd gear
Why 37s for a duelly?
Nice video. So there’s really no reason for the truck to have any torque management. The only difference between the 2020-2023 and 2024 is the 10 speed transmission. From everything you can see they are the same transmission.
I would assume they changed the torque converter but who knows. As for the 11.5” ring gear, I doubt that being an issue because that’s what the 2500 diesels have. Plus it’s what the gas trucks have had.
Interesting results though. It could just be where you have better gearing and being under a load it’s just letting the engine stay in the power band more.
I’m waiting for when you can test drive another 2024 and see if you can tell a difference.
Waiting impatiently and eagerly on that dually build. I need to know what I can and can’t do on the new 24. Thanks for being my Guinea Pig. 😜
Aftermarket throttle controller for the diesel?
Put it in tow/haul and then do a 0-60. See what it does then. With just the truck I mean.
So would you feel comfortable with towing that fifth wheel with the gasser? Just wandering because I’m debating trading my duramax for one and my fifth wheel is about the same size as yours. You’ve really got the only hd gasser towing a fifth content out right now
Review some ibex rvs please. Nice light off-road trailer trailer
That tailgate is awesome.
It’s made to tow Brother. 😂 Should’ve gone with the 35’s right?
Yup, our trucks basically have 34’s so I would rather go 36 or 37’s 👍🏾
@@JB_WhoWork if it had 37s you would want to put 40s on
How hot is it right now?
Take it off tow haul
With the 10 speed that Chevy would definitely work better with 4.30 gears. It needs to utilize the gears more. Watching your acceleration it’s running each gear out for a long time. With lower gear ratios it would run each gear out quicker and shift up more. Right now your using 1-5 gears a lot, I’d like to see it using 1-8 gears saving 9 & 10 for highway cruising
Put some gas! Lol
Wow that gasser is working hard to tow 13,000 lbs on level ground and is going no where . Can’t imagine on a decent grade . Then again it only has 464 lb of tq compared to to 975 ft lb tq of deisel . Would think In long run if you tow a lot and decent weight a diesel truck would be better for longevity of motor etc ..
Oh Chevy heavy duty trucks are flawed with an independent front suspension that is very weak and under engineered Ram and Ford use a solid axle as it should be look at any heavy duty four-wheel-drive off-road her and they use a solid axle
I MADE MY LIVING IN A BIG BROWN SEMI SAID UPS ON THE DOOR. THE OLDER TRUCKS WERE MUCH BETTER ON LESS ELECTRONICS. SAME PROBLEM WITH NEWER PICKUPS. ANYTHING PRE 2010 IS A BETTER BET. HORSE POWER/TORQUE NUMBERS ARE DECEIVING NO MATTER WHAT YOU BUY.
1700 miles is not a lot you need to break in the engine transmission everything breaks. The whole truck gets the break-in. Diesels engine don't need to Long break in, gas engine take longer
What??? C’mon now…
This black guy don't know half the tings he talking about.. how do I block this channel?..
I would never consider that truck for pulling a trailer that big. Too much strain and shitty fuel mileage all the way around.
Too much strain?? How do you figure? It has more power and torque than diesels did 15 years ago. The fuel mileage is only about 20% different to a diesel, with cheaper fuel and no def
Diesel is cheaper than gas across most of the country. That 20% decrease in fuel mileage hurts a lot more now than what it did 2 years ago
@@oldnumber6haven’t seen diesel cheaper hardly anywhere and any place that it is will be temporary because it’s summertime. $10,000 more truck for a diesel is a lot of extra interest to pay right now too. No def, cheaper oil changes, no fuel filter etc saves money also
@@oldnumber6s it though? Certainly not where I live (central PA). Here, diesel is $0.20 more than premium. Zero reason for me to get a diesel unless I'm going cross country (not likely any time soon), or driving like 40 or 50k miles a year (I'm not even close to that).
Was a time that gas engines made no sense in a big truck but that's just not the case anymore.
@@Billybob50119 everyone complains about the extra 10 grand on a diesel. You recoup that if you sell it. They hold their value way better then any gas truck. I pay less then what regular gas costs. I haven’t paid over 3.20 a gallon in a while. Def is what ever. I get like 900 miles to a gallon on that crap and when my warranty is up I’ll take care of all that. My fuel mileage is awesome and that 6.6 gas motor won’t come close to it.
Try towing in AUTO….
Would appreciate seeing a realistic towing video with your 6.6 gas and that trailer to get a fair idea on Mpg. Even a video with your smaller camper that's shown at the end of this video. Love the content you put out and keep doing what you do
Yes I agree would like to see a gas & diesel test see what’s the gas difference between the two 15:21