@@TheGettyAdventures can you imagine the power numbers if it scaled like this engine as far as power per cylinder when I did the math it was like 640 tq and 460hp. Don’t know that it would scale like that but it would be a great motor
@mitchharris97 It does scale like that. Given the displacement it would be a 4.1 liter I-6 and would easily best the 3.0 Ram Hurricane just based on displacement. It would need to change the turbo though as I dont think the dual volute turbo would work on a 6, they would prolly have to go twin turbo but i could be wrong.
Respect to the Nano 2.7. Also Respect to GM for making this the base engine while Ford has the anemic 3.3 n/a. Ford targeted the 5.3 with the 2.7 and the 6.2 with the 3.5 and IMHO Ford came out on top. GM doing their wierd old GM type thing dumped all the development money into their base engine which ironically completes well against Fords mainstream offerings.
@@Oneshawdog89 towing is harder on the transmission than anything else. sure the engine has to try a bit harder, but the damage almost always ends up on the transmission, especially with any kind of hills
I bought the Turbo Max in a Colorado, despite being a little bit reluctant to buy turbo 4 vs a V6. I'm only a year in, but the power of this thing has won me over. It makes effortless torque, and is a blast in a mid size truck. It truly feels like a Diesel.
@@jamesgullo8240 I just want 150k out of it. I don't want to drive something for 20 years. If I can pay it off, drive it for another five and sell it for a few grand I'll be happy. First turbocharged vehicle I've owned, I always lean toward simple. I sat in the Frontier and Colorado back to back, everything about the Frontier feels like it's 10 years old -not just the engine!
I have the 22 refresh silverado with the HO version. For a full size truck it does as well as the 350 did. I have friends who are over 150k on milage and tow heavy alot with theirs and no issues with trans or the engine. The way the oil pump is setup i been hearing carbon is not been a issue with these like people think on higher milage. The 8 speed does well to.
That engine is super surprising. My brother in law has one. I have a 2021 3.0 Duramax and man his feels so much like the diesel its unreal. Super impressive.
As an engineer, I i applaud GM for craming so much technology in such a small form factor while maintaining an extremely reliable product. I'm a diesel guy and previously owned the 3.0 Duramax and currently own the L5P Duramax... But if i were to ever leave the Duramax engine for a gasser, I would 100% consider this one.
@@danielbonner8309 I have a 13 year old GM 2.0T DOHC I4 engine (LHU). It sounds like it ticking and rattling like crazy at idle, and it has for the last 150,000 miles. It makes almost no glitter and is powerful, great engine! It's just the nature of DI engines with aluminum blocks.
As a truck owner ( hemi ram) and mechanic I’m rooting for this engine because I know most people don’t need 400 hp and 400 torque .. I absolutely 100% agree with you on the split port direct injection
@TheGettyAdventures Alex what's wrong with towing with engine? For the average person towing a travel trailer or snowmobile trailer this would be fine.
Traded my RAM in for a Sierra with this engine 3 weeks ago haven't had one regret other than couldn't get a crew cab long bed with the options I wanted. RAM priced me out of the market on trucks and the market value was dropping like a stone. I'm getting 23MPG on the highway on the 2 road trips I've taken and around 17.5 in the city I don't miss my HEMI at all. Tows my side by side better than my RAM did which shocked me.
@@chris6743 I traded my ram in for a Silverado with this engine haven’t looked back tows great drives great getting 23.7-24 mpg highway and running around town see 19.5 mpg vs the 15-18 I was seeing with the hemi
That's why the Ford 2.7 ecoboost is such a great engine, 325 hp 400tq. It's a great engine for the majority that doesn't need to tow a 10K trailer frequently, yet can still do it now and then without worry. I have the 3.5 ecoboost, it tows anything that a half ton should be towing effortlessly with power and torque to spare.
Well, I have a 2020 Silverado Custom with the 310/348 version of this engine. I haven’t had any issues. Tows my 21 foot boat just fine, rides nice, dives good down in East Tennessee hills. I will say one thing, great gas mileage, but she sucks gas towing. I can live with it, she’s making power.
@@dannyt1705You wouldn't think there wouldnt be a need to deactivate cylinders on a 4 banger lol ... That's going to fail like all of their previous attempts at cylinder deactivation.
@@iGame2A Right . And on top of that this 4 cyl engine pulls 8000 lbs while Ford 3.7 v6 gas engine thats in fleet work trucks pulls 9000 lbs = at half the price . No body wants these things , literally . Ive been a GM guy all my life and this engine is a joke .
I've owned a 2023 Silverado for a year now and am quite happy with the 2.7. On a few random occasions, it had like 5 seconds of slight vibration after startup, but no driveability issues so far. There is plenty of power, especially the torque down low is awesome. Wish it sounded like a V-8, but you can't have everything. It makes for a great work truck and is actually very quiet while cruising.
I drove the GMC version of this at my job in truck rental. I was thoroughly impressed with the amount of power the engine gave. It honestly felt like something that would hold up for a long time.
@@freedomisntfree_44is that why Toyota dealers are refusing to trade in tundras right now and don’t want to fix them? Toyota knew about the issue for YEARS and did nothing. There’s also a lawsuit over the rav4s coolant bypass valve and Toyota refusing to fix it. They have a long way to go on the Tacomas with all the issues that’s been having. Colorados and rangers are looking mighty good right now
@@freedomisntfree_44I disagree.They put out a service bulletin for the cracked block and are fixing them. Toyota is a mess right now with their two trucks. As of now there is no fix for the debris chewing up bearings in the Tundras Turbo 6. They were forced to issue the recall cause it was a safety concern
@@steven5096 must be too young to remember the 5.7 dropping valve springs, secondary air pump problems, throttle sticking. All fixed by 2010. I have a 13 5.7 with a quarter million miles without a problem. Toyota fixes their shit 👍 also to young to remember the 3.0 v6 Toyota had….
I had one and loved it. Didn’t like the old 8-speed transmission but I hear they updated it. Power delivery on the 2.7L is shockingly similar to my 3.0 Duramax.
I got the LM2. I love it. Couple issues long crank, intermittent nox2 efficiency, and just recent oil consumption. 1 quart per 1k miles. Keep an eye on your oil.
@@user-ui4iv8dz3wthere’s a tsb for the intake cracking causing oil intrusion to the air charge and causing early regen which might be causing the nox issue and thus the long crank because it takes more compression to ignite oil vs diesel…
This is one of the coolest i4s ever, imo. I've always respected any team who has the guts to make off-set cylinders as it's simply a superior method but requires a lot of engineering to iron-out the follow-up issues.
I personally think all 4 of GM'S engine options are excellent and offer great diversity depending on what customers are looking for. I decided on the LZ0 when i got my 23 LTZ and i couldn't be happier with it so far!!👍
I have seen quite a few of your reviews and the are well thought out. As GM was first rolling out the TurboMax engine i saw the engineering video and i was quite impressed with the structure and the rigorous testing. Now that GM has boosted the warranty to 100,000 miles and seeing this review, i am very impressed. I would love to have that engine in my 2002 Tacoma regular cab 4x4! It would probably break my truck to pieces but that would be a blast for a little while though! After all, my engine is also a 2.7!
I had the 2000 Tacoma with the V6. It was lacking power (5200 ft altitude), so the 2.7 must have been tough. The GM 2.7 is night and day difference. You can actually merge onto the highway with ease. It will pull a hill on my commute at 1800 rpm in top gear (75 mph), where the Toyota needed to downshift to maintain speed (5-speed manual). Definitely a torquey motor down low, but spins up to redline just fine. It does get a bit noisy as the rpm get above 3500.
Greetings Alex. The main problem with AFM and DFM is that when they fail the cost of engine repair is higher. So then the treasure of some companies and workshops is to disconnect these "Fuel Saving" systems in software and mechanically. What fun from GM development engineers. A pleasure to see your videos, analysis and comments; Thanks Alex. I send you a big hug! 🤠
Ive had the 2.7 turbo for about a year now and love it. Im not concerned about the direct injection carbon buildup at all. I think people make it a bigger deal that it is. My previous truck had the 4.3 v6 with direct injection. I saw the valves at 120k and they really weren't that bad. If anything youd need to get them walnut blasted once in the life of the truck. Not a big deal
I bought my 2.7 turbo in February 2024 and am happy with it. I tow a small 21’ wolf pup trailer and it does really good. One thing I noticed however is if towing up a steep incline, it doesn’t like to be pushed. It’s more happy in the 2700-3200 rpm range. If I floor it, the engine just revs up and slowly accelerates, whereas if I accelerate gently and let it downshift it will accelerate better
Ya if you punch it all a sudden you will loose the power band. Ecu will kick back at ya a lil. Seems its just programmed that way? Ease on the 2800 or 3400 rpm it wont do that. Torque curve changes over 4400 rpm.
What do you get combined? I am getting 13.8-14.0 l/100k according to the trip computer. I do mostly highway driving with a bit of city driving every day. I always use cruise control when I can on the highway. I have a canopy, bed slide and a bunch of tools in the back so it has a descent load at all times.
My buddy blew his 2.7 on his 2024 GMC at 6,000 miles. Warranty denied at the first dealership. But the second dealership did it and had to fight gm to get the warranty changed.
@@ews360 Technically yes, but one of the dealerships in our area tries to avoid any possible warranty work. So they will deny warranty claims for things like "Modifications" (Stickers on your rear window).
@@firedflesh5427 One of the largest reasons I buy new every 5 yrs is for the bumper to bumper & drivetrain warranties. I save receipts for correct viscosity dexos oil & a/c delco oil filters, & document all my oil changes date/mileage/% of oil life remaining in case of failure. Hasn't happened yet. Never modify anything. Dealer doesn't "eat it", manufacturer does.
I don’t know about the durability of these highly stressed small turbos but I recently drove a F-150 2.7L and it drove like a V8 and got 31mpg. I was impressed.
@@johnk6206 That’s strange. The one I was driving was empty and it was almost all highway. The turbo seldom kicked in, maybe that’s why I saw that mileage. I wouldn’t have believed it either if I hadn’t seen it.
Bought my 24 in January and I absolutely love this truck. I have been really impressed with this 2.7 4 cylinder. Plenty of power, especially in sport mode, and I actually average about 23-25 MPG on the interstate. The turbo also has that diesel whistle sound to it. 5k miles with no issues. So glad I chose this engine, all the issues seem to be with the V8 engines.
I'm still annoyed that they stopped production on the LWN 2.8 L Duramax. It was already the most fuel efficient truck by quite a bit and they could have paired it with the 10-speed automatic to make it even better.
I’ve got a 2023 chevy silverado 1500 with the 2.7. Almost 50k miles of pulling a 5klb trailer. Uses about 1.5 quarts of oil in 5k mile oil change interval. It doesn’t burn it, it loses the oil somewhere in the turbo system I think. These trucks in the WT trim are freakin sweet and super easy to work on. I like Fords for the luxury trims. But I think for smaller work trucks, the 2.7 GM engine is the best option.
Does it read low on the dipstick when it's 1.5q low out of 6? Mines got 13k is all, and doesn't really seem to burn more than like maybe a pint between the 3.5k intervals I've been doing.
I have been driving a 2023 Canyon with the turbo max since march of 23 and have had zero issues and love my Canyon Elevation 2wd that I ordered with about 4k in options. After my GM discount and ttl, drove off the Dealers lot for 41,500. Best truck ever.
I’ve been doing some research before I purchase a new truck this year. I found your videos during this research and wanted to say I greatly appreciate the content and you earned my sub even tho I don’t buy new vehicles but every 10 years lol
I have a 2024 LT with this motor and my last truck was a 2021 Trail Boss with the 5.3 v8. The 5.3 performed much better. The Turbo Max isn’t terrible, and is probably fine for guys who don’t really haul anything. I think it’s a little under powered and doesn’t haul or tow as well as advertised, it’s also a little sluggish on the expressway but moves well once it’s going. Gas Milage is actually much worse than the 5.3.
What are you towing? It’s designed for lighter loads than the v8, so it will feel underpowered and drink more gas if you tow at the top end of the v8 ratings. The 3.0 Duramax is the better engine for efficiently towing heavier loads.
The 2.7 smokes the 5.3, what are you guys smoking for real. I have had both, no competition. Look at the dyno sheets and torque curve. This will back up my claim. The 2.7 dosent work nearly as hard as the 5.3 also
Ive had my 2023 GMC Sierra turbomax for almost a year now, approaching 8k miles, maybe getting close to 22-23mpg, I don’t tow anythin, just have this for the family, and throwing kayaks and bikes in the bed… very happy with it so far.
People online who likely own Fords or Toyotas complain about this engine all the time, saying it's going to explode or something... makes no sense. There's never been any indication that this engine is anything but highly reliable. Plus, it's 2024... people don't keep vehicles for 20 years anymore. Every single vehicle made today is designed to go 100K trouble free miles then fall apart. They're disposable. So while this engine appears to last, it also doesn't matter even if it didn't.
After a year, I have *never* seen the ECO light on mine come on. I'm not a leadfoot either, I think it just activates under a very minimal set of circumstances.
It seems like they designed a 6\8 cylinder variant, then kept the cylinder deactivation tech when they reduced it to 4 cylinders. I can’t imagine the gas savings is even measurable at the pump.
This AFM is a copy of Honda's VTech. And Honda's VTech works just fine. GM just took it up a notch and added a 3rd profile for the cylinder deactivation. Keep the oil checked and changed and there won't ever be a problem
Always love your real world reviews. You are making me re-think my Duramax 3.0 in my 1500. Would love to hear your take between the 2 engines since the specs are so close.
I used to have a turbo charged scion TC, nothing crazy in terms of power, but to think that these days you can get a beast of a turbo 4 banger like this in a truck is hilarious. I wish i had this in my Scion LOL.
i have a 23 Colorado. 2.7 turbo plus motor, one year later 19K later, fuel milage got better after 12K miles, great motor for a mid size truck, now getting 22 mpg in suburbandriving,25 mpg in highway driving, LOVE the power of the 2.7 haven't tested the 7700 pound tow rating yet
Similar boat. 23 Colorado with the HO tune. 25k miles so far with 10% of that towing around 6k lbs. I’ve got a rack and tent over the bed and I live in a hilly high elevation area but it still gets combined 18.5 mpg. It tows great, plenty of power. Honestly the rear suspension felt like the weak point at 6k lbs, more squat than I’d like. The engine didn’t even care and happily sat at 2300 rpm on the highway with that load in tow.
I have a 2021. Incredible truck all around. For the most part, the only people I've been really seeing with issues are the people using the 4 cylinder for heavy hauling. I love my Silverado.
Ive been hammering on my turbomax colorado for over a year now... 13k miles in with no issues other than its pretty loud and makes a lot of noise, but honestly it eats
I learned my lesson with GM when the DOD failed in my Sierra destroying the engine. I understand this doesn’t have those but what it does have looks even more fragile. No thanks
20,000 miles on my 23 often towing 7x16 box trailer through east coast hills / mountains. NO REGRETS... I will say MPG towing is horrible... really horrible.... but as a daily driver MPG is decent and the truck drives great.
Bought a new '22 2.7 silverado trail boss custom the begining of '23. Currently, I have about 39k mi and is my daily driver. At 23k mi my turbo went out and it was replaced via warranty. At 29k mi my purge valve malfunctioned. Then at 32k mi my collision detection sensor stopped working. We will see what the future stores of me. As much as I love the truck (and the sweet Sand Dune Metallic paint), I am very worried I'll have an expensive repair as soon as much warranty runs out. The worst part is I am sort of stuck with the truck at this point. I commute rather far for work and it's made me quite a bit upside down on trade value. The stigma behind this 4cyl (although the stats on it are incredible) makes it difficult for dealerships to resell. My dealership had like 8 of these 4cyl on the lot. 6 remained for a very long time. I don't know if they got sold or moved to another dealership. I worry this will make my trade in value rough as well. This isn't a "buyer beware" post, because I could just have a lemon. This is just sharing my experience. I truly enjoy the truck but replacing a defective/blown turbo is not a cheap fix when the warranty is gone.
i have a 2023 custom exactly like this one and im really amazed by the performance of the engine. My only real complaint with this engine is the fuel economy. It's not horrendous for a full sized truck but for a 4 cylinder its absurd. Still love my truck tho.
It’s interesting, a ton of owners say the same thing about the MPG. I did a fuel economy loop the day and honestly it killed it. But when I reviews the first 2.7 my fuel economy was terrible lol so idk.
Referring to the torque, I regularly break traction with a 5,500 lb camper at stop lights on accident. From a dead stop this engine produces amazing torque.
Watching all your videos over time on this is telling. I am a diesel mechanic turned service manager turned facility manager. I think Chevrolet might have a hit with this one. I love my 2.7!
I mean like I mentioned its not a 350 small block. But for all the tech smashed into it, they are holding very well. something I did not see coming. I thought this was going to be an absolute grenade for GM. similar to the 3L EcoDiesel from RAM lol.
I bought a Sierra 2.7 a month ago and I have 1100 miles on it so far. As of now I have 0 complaints it has great power and the low end torque has me off the line and up to speed easily. I’m worried about the longevity of the engine long term but the 100k mile powertrain warranty does ease my mind a bit. I’m hoping in 3-4 years as I get further into ownership we will really know if it’s a reliable enough engine to hold on to for years or if I will dump it after warranty is up.
I have 47k on mine. Very impressive. I don't tow often but pulling about 5000lbs for me is no problem. Again, quite surprised at performance and economy.
GM has a pretty good lease deal for 3 years, on Elevation with that block and all colors too. Not sure what to do. Will be my first truck and not for towing at all.
People shake their heads in protest against this engine but it has great specs and I haven’t heard of any major issues with them. Maintain it and don’t Dog it out and it should last for awhile.
Alot of 4cylinder turbo hate going on be it chey,ford toyota fact is ive been a chrysler tech for 38 years these engines are the future thats a fact,they are man made and they can break,service them they will last.
I have a 24 and I just recorded 26.1 mph on 100 mile highway run at 70 mph . As far as the cylinder deactivation if I put it in tow haul it doesn't come on . When I'm just driving around town with the cruise control on at 45 or under is about the only time it comes on .
My 2024 Canyon AT4 is burning oil at 9k miles right now. Make sure you are checking you oil. I hoping that when the stealership changed my oil at 4k that maybe they didnt fill it all the way.
I have this engine and the the knocking is quite horrendous when cold. I assume it needs seafoam (problem is ive jo clue how to apply it, there is no simple air intake throttle body like my other vehicles). It also has a horrible transmission jerking issue when autostart is enabled (i always disable it).
Since the vehicle doesn't have a double fuel injection system, and the intake manifold would fill up with carbon crud, I would disconnect the exhaust gas recirculator(EGR) hose and vent the filthy gases to the atmosphere and plug up the hole in the air intake.
I don’t like the active fuel management on a 4 cylinder it is a waste and you are looking for problems look at the GM V8 with the afm it is a nightmare
I'm a bit leery, but time will tell. Good to see Chevy trying to keep up with Ford with the forged internals and offset rods. Would have liked to see a CGI block instead of sleeved aluminum. Too bad it's not dual port injection. I do not like the cylinder deactivation at all regardless if it's a cam set up or collapsing lifters. I can't help but think a truck being driven mildly will have excessive carbon buildup on cylinders 2 & 3 and fouled plugs after 50,000, and this just compounds the direct injection issue (No way to rinse it out with an Italian tune-up). I could be wrong. Maybe in the future there will be a 200,000 mile tear down that might analyze this. It has amazing output numbers for such a small displacement, but it also runs up to 22lbs of boost from the factory.
2011 gm made fun of ford for the 3.5 ecoboost and it’s embarrassing how much better it tows than the 6.2 to this day still. Then bam gm drops a 4 banger in a full size 😂 the 2.7 to get is the ford.
Imagine a version of this with those new electric engines mounted in the transmission giving this thing 80 more horse and 100 ft of torque this thing would become really fuel efficient and pretty powerful.
My Question IS… WHERE are the Front Bumpers on C-10’s, C-15’s, F-150’s, Rams and Tundras????? What happens when you find yourself with a 10 mph frontal “ mishap”??? All that front end plastic HAS GOT to be Expensive to Replace. Are vehicle insurances Much HIGHER on these front Bumperless Trucks????? 😳😬😠😡. CB
Modern engines seem to use a ton of conplexity for only a modest gain in mpg. Have to imagine increased maintenance cost and shorter life span eats up the mpg gain over a naturally aspirated 6 or 8 cylinder engine.
I have a 2022 GMC 3500. It has the 6.6 gas motor. It’s been flawless for 35,000 miles but being direct injection has me constantly fearing carbon buildup on the intake valves. I’ve been considering some kind of additive to put in the gas but don’t quite dare at this point. All I do is try not to let her lug down to low RPM when pulling hard. I dont know if this helps prevent that potential problem or not.
I wish GM would add two cylinders to this engine. GM, PLEASE BRING BACK THE STRAIGHT 6 ENGINES. I have the 3.0L LZO duramax and just love how smooth it is. Pulls great as well. Would love to have a gas version.
GM just needs to add a port injector to go along with the direct and make a hybrid version of this and I’d be all over it like White on Rice. Right now it’s the F150 hybrid for me, I need the onboard generator as well.
IDK, I'm in the (must have a V8) catagory for full sized trucks, I'd be fine with the 4cyl in the mid sized. Just bought a 2500hd 6.6l knowing gas mileage would suck but it's a truck! I really think they need to perfect the Cylinder disable tech and stick with 8 cylinders and add the turbo.
This engine is under rated, it’s very reliable and powerful at altitude this engine will have more torque than any NA v8 out there. the biggest problem with it is it doesn’t give you bragging rights to say you have a v8 or simply can’t fulfill someone’s ego,
Check out me towing 8,000lbs through the Appalachian mountains with this BEAST - th-cam.com/video/xbcvOhSSGmk/w-d-xo.html
How much GM pay you for this commercial Way more than 12 engines.
@@TheGettyAdventures hard for me to believe a 4 cylinder can do that. Maybe I am out of touch with reality
If they had build a straight six version of this engine, they would have build the greatest offroad engine ever.
The 3.0 duramax is really good
@@Tiovergudo I guess is with the straight six they would't have needed all that extra counterbalance since inline sixes are naturally balanced.
From what I read. There was supposed to be an inline 6 engine and an inline 4. Turns out they only built the 4 cylinder.
@@TheGettyAdventures can you imagine the power numbers if it scaled like this engine as far as power per cylinder when I did the math it was like 640 tq and 460hp. Don’t know that it would scale like that but it would be a great motor
@mitchharris97 It does scale like that. Given the displacement it would be a 4.1 liter I-6 and would easily best the 3.0 Ram Hurricane just based on displacement. It would need to change the turbo though as I dont think the dual volute turbo would work on a 6, they would prolly have to go twin turbo but i could be wrong.
As a 2.7 ecoboost owner, I do admire the simplicity of 4 cylinders and 1 turbo if it gets the job done.
Agreed.
The single turbo does certainly make things a little simpler.
It doesn’t…
@@TheHighway-mf3sl how does it not please share able to tow 9500 lbs 2200 lbs payload and 24 mpg
Respect to the Nano 2.7. Also Respect to GM for making this the base engine while Ford has the anemic 3.3 n/a. Ford targeted the 5.3 with the 2.7 and the 6.2 with the 3.5 and IMHO Ford came out on top. GM doing their wierd old GM type thing dumped all the development money into their base engine which ironically completes well against Fords mainstream offerings.
I have had my 2.7 Turbomax for 2 years. No problems at all and I love the power curve in this engine. It pulls 10,000 lb. Trailer with no problem.
Watch the temps when towing, as 10k lbs is going to stress that engine over time.
@@Cloud30000 I tow short durations of a large dump trailer loaded with a small tractor. The torque of this little engine is impressive.
Keep pulling 10 k lbs, she’s gonna blow up! It’s a 4 banger!!! Don’t let that torque fool you😂😂😂😂
@@Oneshawdog89 I will keep towing and enjoy the 100,000 mile warranty I have.
@@Oneshawdog89 towing is harder on the transmission than anything else. sure the engine has to try a bit harder, but the damage almost always ends up on the transmission, especially with any kind of hills
I bought the Turbo Max in a Colorado, despite being a little bit reluctant to buy turbo 4 vs a V6. I'm only a year in, but the power of this thing has won me over.
It makes effortless torque, and is a blast in a mid size truck. It truly feels like a Diesel.
I was thinking these engines in a light midsize truck probably feel lightning fast
@VortexArcade Don't get me wrong, I wish you well with your truck. But my neighbor has 370,000 on his 5.3 L Chevy pickup.
@@jamesgullo8240 I just want 150k out of it. I don't want to drive something for 20 years. If I can pay it off, drive it for another five and sell it for a few grand I'll be happy.
First turbocharged vehicle I've owned, I always lean toward simple. I sat in the Frontier and Colorado back to back, everything about the Frontier feels like it's 10 years old -not just the engine!
@@jamesgullo8240 Which 5.3 is the question. Because that is pure luck on AFM/DFM engines. Pretty that crap yes they were solid engines
I have the 22 refresh silverado with the HO version. For a full size truck it does as well as the 350 did. I have friends who are over 150k on milage and tow heavy alot with theirs and no issues with trans or the engine. The way the oil pump is setup i been hearing carbon is not been a issue with these like people think on higher milage. The 8 speed does well to.
That engine is super surprising. My brother in law has one. I have a 2021 3.0 Duramax and man his feels so much like the diesel its unreal. Super impressive.
Both those engine do have a similar feel. But I do love that 3L duramax
Until it comes time to actually use it as a truck.
@@TheGettyAdventuresthe baby Duramax is another trash motor with designed obsolescence built in.
@@edhcb9359 You don't use 1/2 tons to do truck stuff....that's for 3/4 tons and 1 ton duelleys.
@@Rich-xq3uv You might not, but most people can and do.
As an engineer, I i applaud GM for craming so much technology in such a small form factor while maintaining an extremely reliable product. I'm a diesel guy and previously owned the 3.0 Duramax and currently own the L5P Duramax... But if i were to ever leave the Duramax engine for a gasser, I would 100% consider this one.
My company has several in our service fleet with well over 200k on them already. Been great.
Do vehicles in your fleet regulary hit 200k or are these just that robust?
@moyacosta6223 these are robust. I've seen it for myself. Even full time towing 7400lbs behind it.
@@moyacosta6223 ford V8’s have lasted that long. Ecoboost not so much
put some miles on those things lol I like it
Good news.
I know at the dealer, we haven't seen too many major issues with these.
They are normally noisy though
Build a gas engine to run like a diesel, and it’s gonna sound like a diesel.
It is a ticky engine. To me it sounds like an older Honda VTEC. Maybe it has to do with the overhead cams.
@@danielbonner8309 I have a 13 year old GM 2.0T DOHC I4 engine (LHU). It sounds like it ticking and rattling like crazy at idle, and it has for the last 150,000 miles. It makes almost no glitter and is powerful, great engine! It's just the nature of DI engines with aluminum blocks.
very interesting, of the 4 GM engines in the 1500's which would you say has the most issues ?
Probably sounds like VW's 2.0T, it has a CGI block and sounds just like a diesel
Props to the re-review. Much more fair then last years Alex!
As a truck owner ( hemi ram) and mechanic I’m rooting for this engine because I know most people don’t need 400 hp and 400 torque .. I absolutely 100% agree with you on the split port direct injection
I think for the average person who does not tow, or tow often. Something like this is very reasonable.
@TheGettyAdventures Alex what's wrong with towing with engine? For the average person towing a travel trailer or snowmobile trailer this would be fine.
Traded my RAM in for a Sierra with this engine 3 weeks ago haven't had one regret other than couldn't get a crew cab long bed with the options I wanted. RAM priced me out of the market on trucks and the market value was dropping like a stone. I'm getting 23MPG on the highway on the 2 road trips I've taken and around 17.5 in the city I don't miss my HEMI at all. Tows my side by side better than my RAM did which shocked me.
@@chris6743 I traded my ram in for a Silverado with this engine haven’t looked back tows great drives great getting 23.7-24 mpg highway and running around town see 19.5 mpg vs the 15-18 I was seeing with the hemi
That's why the Ford 2.7 ecoboost is such a great engine, 325 hp 400tq. It's a great engine for the majority that doesn't need to tow a 10K trailer frequently, yet can still do it now and then without worry. I have the 3.5 ecoboost, it tows anything that a half ton should be towing effortlessly with power and torque to spare.
Well, I have a 2020 Silverado Custom with the 310/348 version of this engine. I haven’t had any issues. Tows my 21 foot boat just fine, rides nice, dives good down in East Tennessee hills. I will say one thing, great gas mileage, but she sucks gas towing. I can live with it, she’s making power.
Tip of the hat to GM for a stout torquey motor that has been reliable. I didn’t realize it’s been out for 7 years now.
Crazy how fast it’s been. Granted the 7th year will be with the 2025 models
There is a reason for not knowing this engine been around for 7 yrs . Because no one wants a 4 cyl with AFM that deactivates 2 cyl LMAO
@@dannyt1705You wouldn't think there wouldnt be a need to deactivate cylinders on a 4 banger lol ... That's going to fail like all of their previous attempts at cylinder deactivation.
@@iGame2A Right . And on top of that this 4 cyl engine pulls 8000 lbs while Ford 3.7 v6 gas engine thats in fleet work trucks pulls 9000 lbs = at half the price . No body wants these things , literally . Ive been a GM guy all my life and this engine is a joke .
I've owned a 2023 Silverado for a year now and am quite happy with the 2.7. On a few random occasions, it had like 5 seconds of slight vibration after startup, but no driveability issues so far. There is plenty of power, especially the torque down low is awesome. Wish it sounded like a V-8, but you can't have everything. It makes for a great work truck and is actually very quiet while cruising.
I love mine. My lease was up on my 22 Silverado with the 5.3 and after driving one of these I was sold. Love the turbo
I love the "Certified Dirty Idle" California sticker on the tool box" XD
Haha thought a couple folks would appreciate that
I drove the GMC version of this at my job in truck rental. I was thoroughly impressed with the amount of power the engine gave. It honestly felt like something that would hold up for a long time.
It seems GMs 4 turbo is more reliable that Toyotas 6. Who'd have believed it?
Nah gm will brush things under the rug and won’t fix anything. Toyta will fix it and make it right
@@freedomisntfree_44so Toyota is going to recall all 2024 Tundras/Tacomas and get them all a new engine ?
@@freedomisntfree_44is that why Toyota dealers are refusing to trade in tundras right now and don’t want to fix them? Toyota knew about the issue for YEARS and did nothing. There’s also a lawsuit over the rav4s coolant bypass valve and Toyota refusing to fix it. They have a long way to go on the Tacomas with all the issues that’s been having. Colorados and rangers are looking mighty good right now
@@freedomisntfree_44I disagree.They put out a service bulletin for the cracked block and are fixing them. Toyota is a mess right now with their two trucks. As of now there is no fix for the debris chewing up bearings in the Tundras Turbo 6. They were forced to issue the recall cause it was a safety concern
@@steven5096 must be too young to remember the 5.7 dropping valve springs, secondary air pump problems, throttle sticking. All fixed by 2010. I have a 13 5.7 with a quarter million miles without a problem. Toyota fixes their shit 👍 also to young to remember the 3.0 v6 Toyota had….
Nice job of breaking it down for someone who is not mechanically inclined. The channel should be renamed to “The Getty Professor “.
Well done.
I had one and loved it. Didn’t like the old 8-speed transmission but I hear they updated it. Power delivery on the 2.7L is shockingly similar to my 3.0 Duramax.
I agree. I mention that when I’m towing with it. A little odd they don’t just buckle it up with the flagship 10 speed. But maybe eventually.
@@TheGettyAdventures I wonder if it’s cause they wanted the longer gears for the turbocharger?
Time will tell, but I'm a 3.0 Duramax Diesel owner and I absolutely love it!
I gotta get a 3L back on the channel. I love that engine.
I got the LM2. I love it. Couple issues long crank, intermittent nox2 efficiency, and just recent oil consumption. 1 quart per 1k miles. Keep an eye on your oil.
@@user-ui4iv8dz3w there is a tsb about oil consumption on that motor and the intake cracking. Probably the cause of everything else
Timing chain is on the back of the engine near firewall. It’s around $2k to have it replaced.
@@user-ui4iv8dz3wthere’s a tsb for the intake cracking causing oil intrusion to the air charge and causing early regen which might be causing the nox issue and thus the long crank because it takes more compression to ignite oil vs diesel…
This is one of the coolest i4s ever, imo. I've always respected any team who has the guts to make off-set cylinders as it's simply a superior method but requires a lot of engineering to iron-out the follow-up issues.
Great video! People love to hate on this engine but it just keeps working!
Has been out very long Jimmy. GM's track record is poor.
I had a little truck with a weirdly large four cylinder (2.9L) and I really enjoyed it's "industrial" sound. I bet this engine makes a similar sound.
With an exhaust it sounds like a turbo honda
Honestly the turbo whistle is the most notable sound in my opinion
Looking forward to seeing more of this light duty content, especially the Maverick content
I personally think all 4 of GM'S engine options are excellent and offer great diversity depending on what customers are looking for. I decided on the LZ0 when i got my 23 LTZ and i couldn't be happier with it so far!!👍
I have seen quite a few of your reviews and the are well thought out. As GM was first rolling out the TurboMax engine i saw the engineering video and i was quite impressed with the structure and the rigorous testing. Now that GM has boosted the warranty to 100,000 miles and seeing this review, i am very impressed. I would love to have that engine in my 2002 Tacoma regular cab 4x4! It would probably break my truck to pieces but that would be a blast for a little while though! After all, my engine is also a 2.7!
I had the 2000 Tacoma with the V6. It was lacking power (5200 ft altitude), so the 2.7 must have been tough. The GM 2.7 is night and day difference. You can actually merge onto the highway with ease. It will pull a hill on my commute at 1800 rpm in top gear (75 mph), where the Toyota needed to downshift to maintain speed (5-speed manual). Definitely a torquey motor down low, but spins up to redline just fine. It does get a bit noisy as the rpm get above 3500.
Greetings Alex.
The main problem with AFM and DFM is that when they fail the cost of engine repair is higher. So then the treasure of some companies and workshops is to disconnect these "Fuel Saving" systems in software and mechanically. What fun from GM development engineers. A pleasure to see your videos, analysis and comments; Thanks Alex. I send you a big hug! 🤠
Ive had the 2.7 turbo for about a year now and love it. Im not concerned about the direct injection carbon buildup at all. I think people make it a bigger deal that it is. My previous truck had the 4.3 v6 with direct injection. I saw the valves at 120k and they really weren't that bad. If anything youd need to get them walnut blasted once in the life of the truck. Not a big deal
Fair enough, I guess for me it’s just something completely preventable.
A few horror stories went a LONG way on the internet. Overall I don't think coking is near the problem it was made out to be.
I bought my 2.7 turbo in February 2024 and am happy with it. I tow a small 21’ wolf pup trailer and it does really good. One thing I noticed however is if towing up a steep incline, it doesn’t like to be pushed. It’s more happy in the 2700-3200 rpm range. If I floor it, the engine just revs up and slowly accelerates, whereas if I accelerate gently and let it downshift it will accelerate better
Ya if you punch it all a sudden you will loose the power band. Ecu will kick back at ya a lil. Seems its just programmed that way? Ease on the 2800 or 3400 rpm it wont do that. Torque curve changes over 4400 rpm.
430 lb-ft torque @ 3,000 rpm's That's where you want to be.
Happy owner of a Silverado 1500 with 2.7T. The truck easily gets 10L/100km in highway driving. Has a nice smooth turbo whistling noise while driving.
What do you get combined? I am getting 13.8-14.0 l/100k according to the trip computer. I do mostly highway driving with a bit of city driving every day. I always use cruise control when I can on the highway. I have a canopy, bed slide and a bunch of tools in the back so it has a descent load at all times.
why am I getting the late 70's early 80's vibes small motors in oversized vehicles
Completely different engine technology today.
My buddy blew his 2.7 on his 2024 GMC at 6,000 miles. Warranty denied at the first dealership. But the second dealership did it and had to fight gm to get the warranty changed.
3 year 36,000 mile bumper to bumper warranty. 5 year 100,000 mile drivetrain warranty.
@@ews360 Technically yes, but one of the dealerships in our area tries to avoid any possible warranty work. So they will deny warranty claims for things like "Modifications" (Stickers on your rear window).
@@firedflesh5427 One of the largest reasons I buy new every 5 yrs is for the bumper to bumper & drivetrain warranties. I save receipts for correct viscosity dexos oil & a/c delco oil filters, & document all my oil changes date/mileage/% of oil life remaining in case of failure. Hasn't happened yet. Never modify anything. Dealer doesn't "eat it", manufacturer does.
Why do we need AFM on a 4cyl? Just keep em all rockin😊
I don’t know about the durability of these highly stressed small turbos but I recently drove a F-150 2.7L and it drove like a V8 and got 31mpg. I was impressed.
I rented one and it blew me away with the acceleration.
31?! I had a 22 f150 2.7, and it struggled to see 19 on the highway. Fair power, but bad milage.
@@johnk6206 That’s strange. The one I was driving was empty and it was almost all highway. The turbo seldom kicked in, maybe that’s why I saw that mileage. I wouldn’t have believed it either if I hadn’t seen it.
@@user-xk4vt9ye8j Curious how you know the turbo is kicked in; it is dual volet turbo and you shouldn't even here it at low RPMs.
@@RFRUS I didn’t really, I was driving very conservatively.
Bought my 24 in January and I absolutely love this truck. I have been really impressed with this 2.7 4 cylinder. Plenty of power, especially in sport mode, and I actually average about 23-25 MPG on the interstate. The turbo also has that diesel whistle sound to it. 5k miles with no issues. So glad I chose this engine, all the issues seem to be with the V8 engines.
Which trim level did you take?
LT crew cab 4x4
I'm still annoyed that they stopped production on the LWN 2.8 L Duramax. It was already the most fuel efficient truck by quite a bit and they could have paired it with the 10-speed automatic to make it even better.
I’ve got a 2023 chevy silverado 1500 with the 2.7. Almost 50k miles of pulling a 5klb trailer. Uses about 1.5 quarts of oil in 5k mile oil change interval. It doesn’t burn it, it loses the oil somewhere in the turbo system I think. These trucks in the WT trim are freakin sweet and super easy to work on. I like Fords for the luxury trims. But I think for smaller work trucks, the 2.7 GM engine is the best option.
Does it read low on the dipstick when it's 1.5q low out of 6? Mines got 13k is all, and doesn't really seem to burn more than like maybe a pint between the 3.5k intervals I've been doing.
I have been driving a 2023 Canyon with the turbo max since march of 23 and have had zero issues and love my Canyon Elevation 2wd that I ordered with about 4k in options. After my GM discount and ttl, drove off the Dealers lot for 41,500. Best truck ever.
JUST BOUGHT A 1500. .. LAST WEEK END.. .... .. SO FAR SO GOOD.. I HOPE I CAN HAVE IT FOR A LONG TIME👍
I almost forgot this engine was in the Cadillac CT4. A powerful motor meant for truck applications in a tiny sedan sounds like a blast lol
It's got a 8 speed tranny too the Caddy will haul butt.
Got my 23 Silverado and she’s going strong !!!!!! For what I need it’s a damn good pickup.
I’ve been doing some research before I purchase a new truck this year. I found your videos during this research and wanted to say I greatly appreciate the content and you earned my sub even tho I don’t buy new vehicles but every 10 years lol
I have a 2024 LT with this motor and my last truck was a 2021 Trail Boss with the 5.3 v8. The 5.3 performed much better. The Turbo Max isn’t terrible, and is probably fine for guys who don’t really haul anything. I think it’s a little under powered and doesn’t haul or tow as well as advertised, it’s also a little sluggish on the expressway but moves well once it’s going. Gas Milage is actually much worse than the 5.3.
A lot of people mention the gas mileage not being great which I find interesting. And I agree with my trailer the engine just felt a little overhelmed
What are you towing? It’s designed for lighter loads than the v8, so it will feel underpowered and drink more gas if you tow at the top end of the v8 ratings. The 3.0 Duramax is the better engine for efficiently towing heavier loads.
The 2.7 smokes the 5.3, what are you guys smoking for real. I have had both, no competition. Look at the dyno sheets and torque curve. This will back up my claim. The 2.7 dosent work nearly as hard as the 5.3 also
Maybe it has more to do with the 8 speec then the actual motor i think this motor is great for the Colorado
Ive had my 2023 GMC Sierra turbomax for almost a year now, approaching 8k miles, maybe getting close to 22-23mpg, I don’t tow anythin, just have this for the family, and throwing kayaks and bikes in the bed… very happy with it so far.
People online who likely own Fords or Toyotas complain about this engine all the time, saying it's going to explode or something... makes no sense. There's never been any indication that this engine is anything but highly reliable. Plus, it's 2024... people don't keep vehicles for 20 years anymore. Every single vehicle made today is designed to go 100K trouble free miles then fall apart. They're disposable. So while this engine appears to last, it also doesn't matter even if it didn't.
My aunt bought one and drives cross country. It's been solid. I'm pretty impressed
2.7 is the underdog, and i kind of like it.
Underdog is a great name for it.
I have a 2004 F150 4.6 with 215000 plus miles soon as the f150 done I'm buying the GMC 2.7 TURBOMAX for my next work truck.
This engine has been out for 7 years all ready ?!
in 2025 model year truck - yes lol
My 2023 2.7 Turbomax Silverado with 15,000 miles has had zero issues and really has impressed me.
Afm is a deal breaker for me period! Also, I believe a 4 cylinder engine doesn't need it!
After a year, I have *never* seen the ECO light on mine come on. I'm not a leadfoot either, I think it just activates under a very minimal set of circumstances.
It is odd that a 4 cylinder engine would need to run on only 2 cylinders I agree.
It seems like they designed a 6\8 cylinder variant, then kept the cylinder deactivation tech when they reduced it to 4 cylinders. I can’t imagine the gas savings is even measurable at the pump.
This AFM is a copy of Honda's VTech. And Honda's VTech works just fine. GM just took it up a notch and added a 3rd profile for the cylinder deactivation. Keep the oil checked and changed and there won't ever be a problem
That may be true, but you are still going to have uneven loading, and thus, uneven wear between cylinders!
Toyota has had the dual port and direct injection system (D4S) since 2006 starting with the Lexus IS350.
Always love your real world reviews. You are making me re-think my Duramax 3.0 in my 1500. Would love to hear your take between the 2 engines since the specs are so close.
The LZ0 is the best engine option in the GM half-tons. Especially with the max tow 3.73 axle ratio.
I used to have a turbo charged scion TC, nothing crazy in terms of power, but to think that these days you can get a beast of a turbo 4 banger like this in a truck is hilarious. I wish i had this in my Scion LOL.
i have a 23 Colorado. 2.7 turbo plus motor, one year later 19K later, fuel milage got better after 12K miles, great motor for a mid size truck, now getting 22 mpg in suburbandriving,25 mpg in highway driving, LOVE the power of the 2.7 haven't tested the 7700 pound tow rating yet
Turdbo 2.7 sounds worse than a 1992 Honda Civic !
Similar boat. 23 Colorado with the HO tune. 25k miles so far with 10% of that towing around 6k lbs. I’ve got a rack and tent over the bed and I live in a hilly high elevation area but it still gets combined 18.5 mpg. It tows great, plenty of power. Honestly the rear suspension felt like the weak point at 6k lbs, more squat than I’d like. The engine didn’t even care and happily sat at 2300 rpm on the highway with that load in tow.
It’s innovative, powerful, and reliable. Got to admire an engine that can be all that.
I have a 2021. Incredible truck all around. For the most part, the only people I've been really seeing with issues are the people using the 4 cylinder for heavy hauling. I love my Silverado.
Ive been hammering on my turbomax colorado for over a year now... 13k miles in with no issues other than its pretty loud and makes a lot of noise, but honestly it eats
I learned my lesson with GM when the DOD failed in my Sierra destroying the engine. I understand this doesn’t have those but what it does have looks even more fragile. No thanks
Only engine left without that scary tech is the Nissan, so choices are limited
No I wouldn't consider buying one but I'm watching because I enjoy your reviews.
20,000 miles on my 23 often towing 7x16 box trailer through east coast hills / mountains. NO REGRETS... I will say MPG towing is horrible... really horrible.... but as a daily driver MPG is decent and the truck drives great.
Thanks for the informative review!
Bought a new '22 2.7 silverado trail boss custom the begining of '23. Currently, I have about 39k mi and is my daily driver. At 23k mi my turbo went out and it was replaced via warranty. At 29k mi my purge valve malfunctioned. Then at 32k mi my collision detection sensor stopped working. We will see what the future stores of me. As much as I love the truck (and the sweet Sand Dune Metallic paint), I am very worried I'll have an expensive repair as soon as much warranty runs out. The worst part is I am sort of stuck with the truck at this point. I commute rather far for work and it's made me quite a bit upside down on trade value. The stigma behind this 4cyl (although the stats on it are incredible) makes it difficult for dealerships to resell. My dealership had like 8 of these 4cyl on the lot. 6 remained for a very long time. I don't know if they got sold or moved to another dealership. I worry this will make my trade in value rough as well. This isn't a "buyer beware" post, because I could just have a lemon. This is just sharing my experience. I truly enjoy the truck but replacing a defective/blown turbo is not a cheap fix when the warranty is gone.
i have a 2023 custom exactly like this one and im really amazed by the performance of the engine. My only real complaint with this engine is the fuel economy. It's not horrendous for a full sized truck but for a 4 cylinder its absurd. Still love my truck tho.
It’s interesting, a ton of owners say the same thing about the MPG. I did a fuel economy loop the day and honestly it killed it. But when I reviews the first 2.7 my fuel economy was terrible lol so idk.
@@TheGettyAdventures Alex it was terrible because it was winter and winter blend fuels are known for poor economy!
What mpg are you getting?
Referring to the torque, I regularly break traction with a 5,500 lb camper at stop lights on accident.
From a dead stop this engine produces amazing torque.
Watching all your videos over time on this is telling. I am a diesel mechanic turned service manager turned facility manager. I think Chevrolet might have a hit with this one. I love my 2.7!
I mean like I mentioned its not a 350 small block. But for all the tech smashed into it, they are holding very well. something I did not see coming. I thought this was going to be an absolute grenade for GM. similar to the 3L EcoDiesel from RAM lol.
I could not live with that Honda Civic Sound ! I will keep my 5.3 V8 ! Nothing like the sound of a V8 !
V8’s will always sound better, but a large cylinder inline 4-banger does sound better then a small cylinder 6-banger (diesel vs motorcycle).
@@Cloud30000 There is nothing You can do to improve the whimpy sound of a 4 Banger !
I bought a Sierra 2.7 a month ago and I have 1100 miles on it so far. As of now I have 0 complaints it has great power and the low end torque has me off the line and up to speed easily. I’m worried about the longevity of the engine long term but the 100k mile powertrain warranty does ease my mind a bit. I’m hoping in 3-4 years as I get further into ownership we will really know if it’s a reliable enough engine to hold on to for years or if I will dump it after warranty is up.
I have 47k on mine. Very impressive. I don't tow often but pulling about 5000lbs for me is no problem. Again, quite surprised at performance and economy.
Hey thats my exact truck! Even down to the color. For my first truck, I'm pretty happy with it
GM has a pretty good lease deal for 3 years, on Elevation with that block and all colors too. Not sure what to do. Will be my first truck and not for towing at all.
People shake their heads in protest against this engine but it has great specs and I haven’t heard of any major issues with them. Maintain it and don’t Dog it out and it should last for awhile.
Alot of 4cylinder turbo hate going on be it chey,ford toyota fact is ive been a chrysler tech for 38 years these engines are the future thats a fact,they are man made and they can break,service them they will last.
I have a 24 and I just recorded 26.1 mph on 100 mile highway run at 70 mph . As far as the cylinder deactivation if I put it in tow haul it doesn't come on . When I'm just driving around town with the cruise control on at 45 or under is about the only time it comes on .
My 2024 Canyon AT4 is burning oil at 9k miles right now.
Make sure you are checking you oil. I hoping that when the stealership changed my oil at 4k that maybe they didnt fill it all the way.
I’ve had too much bad luck with my 4.3L AFM Silverado to get another engine with AFM. I’d get a duramax or 2500
Amazing review, lots of information on this turbo max engine.
Cool little engine. Too bad mpgs aren’t higher. Great video!! 👍
I haven’t bought a GM product in years.
It’s a good tool, I don’t like the engine turning off every corner, that’s gonna damage the starting gear.
Can this be deactivated without voiding the warranty?
i'm holding out for the Briggs and Stratton version.
It will be interesting to see the fuel economy test as the EPA numbers are pretty bad for such a small engine.
I have this engine and the the knocking is quite horrendous when cold. I assume it needs seafoam (problem is ive jo clue how to apply it, there is no simple air intake throttle body like my other vehicles).
It also has a horrible transmission jerking issue when autostart is enabled (i always disable it).
Since the vehicle doesn't have a double fuel injection system, and the intake manifold would fill up with carbon crud, I would disconnect the exhaust gas recirculator(EGR) hose and vent the filthy gases to the atmosphere and plug up the hole in the air intake.
I don’t like the active fuel management on a 4 cylinder it is a waste and you are looking for problems look at the GM
V8 with the afm it is a nightmare
Mazda has active fuel management on their 2.5 liter non turbo engine in their cars
It is strange GM felt the need for AFM on a 4 cylinder engine. Personally I don’t really like it.
To tell you the truth, as i own canyon with High output L3B
Afm is rarely even active
I'm a bit leery, but time will tell. Good to see Chevy trying to keep up with Ford with the forged internals and offset rods. Would have liked to see a CGI block instead of sleeved aluminum. Too bad it's not dual port injection. I do not like the cylinder deactivation at all regardless if it's a cam set up or collapsing lifters. I can't help but think a truck being driven mildly will have excessive carbon buildup on cylinders 2 & 3 and fouled plugs after 50,000, and this just compounds the direct injection issue (No way to rinse it out with an Italian tune-up). I could be wrong. Maybe in the future there will be a 200,000 mile tear down that might analyze this. It has amazing output numbers for such a small displacement, but it also runs up to 22lbs of boost from the factory.
2011 gm made fun of ford for the 3.5 ecoboost and it’s embarrassing how much better it tows than the 6.2 to this day still. Then bam gm drops a 4 banger in a full size 😂 the 2.7 to get is the ford.
They're all scrap
@@melvingibson4525 So are the GM V8's 🤣
V8 or nothing. No way I'm buying any turbo garbage. Dealer near me always has a half dozen Ecoturds in the shop with bad cam phasers.
@@nodak81 and people have ran them for 100k miles with that rattle and keep going. Not like the lifter failure gm has had
@@Jay-me7gw Tundra v8
I wish they had this warranty for my 2023 Colorado Trail Boss!
Toyota has had port/direct in some models since 2007…17 years now!
Called D4S
Imagine a version of this with those new electric engines mounted in the transmission giving this thing 80 more horse and 100 ft of torque this thing would become really fuel efficient and pretty powerful.
My Question IS…
WHERE are the Front Bumpers
on C-10’s, C-15’s, F-150’s,
Rams and Tundras?????
What happens when you find
yourself with a 10 mph frontal
“ mishap”???
All that front end plastic HAS
GOT to be Expensive to Replace.
Are vehicle insurances Much
HIGHER on these front
Bumperless Trucks?????
😳😬😠😡. CB
Modern engines seem to use a ton of conplexity for only a modest gain in mpg. Have to imagine increased maintenance cost and shorter life span eats up the mpg gain over a naturally aspirated 6 or 8 cylinder engine.
I have a 2022 GMC 3500. It has the 6.6 gas motor. It’s been flawless for 35,000 miles but being direct injection has me constantly fearing carbon buildup on the intake valves. I’ve been considering some kind of additive to put in the gas but don’t quite dare at this point. All I do is try not to let her lug down to low RPM when pulling hard. I dont know if this helps prevent that potential problem or not.
Get a oil catch can.
I did it'll keep from getting carbon buildup.
Will this engine run well if you decide to want to turn off the active fuel management? Not a big fan of it.
I wish GM would add two cylinders to this engine. GM, PLEASE BRING BACK THE STRAIGHT 6 ENGINES. I have the 3.0L LZO duramax and just love how smooth it is. Pulls great as well. Would love to have a gas version.
GM just needs to add a port injector to go along with the direct and make a hybrid version of this and I’d be all over it like White on Rice. Right now it’s the F150 hybrid for me, I need the onboard generator as well.
How do you feel about the longevity being its only direct injection? Carbon issues? That’s my biggest concern.
IDK, I'm in the (must have a V8) catagory for full sized trucks, I'd be fine with the 4cyl in the mid sized. Just bought a 2500hd 6.6l knowing gas mileage would suck but it's a truck! I really think they need to perfect the Cylinder disable tech and stick with 8 cylinders and add the turbo.
This engine is under rated, it’s very reliable and powerful at altitude this engine will have more torque than any NA v8 out there. the biggest problem with it is it doesn’t give you bragging rights to say you have a v8 or simply can’t fulfill someone’s ego,