Best underlever for the money available, love mine to bits. I currently have one of these (with the beech sporter stock, I like wood) and a HW100 bullpup, all the airguns I need. Not that that will stop me buying more, I have my eye on a HW98 too... Be a bit more careful hanging on to the lever when your thumb is in the breach though, it's just held on the safety and isn't a proper anti-beartrap. If you set the trigger as light as you can, and they do go very light, you can bump the gun and have it slam shut. That could cost you the top joint of your thumb and, more importantly, get blood all over your laminate stock. Keep a good, solid grip on the lever whenever it's being loaded. Two fingers isn't enough, it'll rip out of your grip before you can react, I've seen it happen. Also try it with a smaller scope, I fitted an MTC Viper Pro 10x44 fixed on mine, looks stunning and it's as much scope as you need at springer ranges.
@@tvm-reviews I also recommend getting a grip for the cocking lever (Rowan Engineering do a great one) for a bit more purchase. Doesn't hurt that they look cool too. All the best mate, glad you enjoyed shooting the 97 as much as I do, they really are a sweet bit of kit.
Hello good sir. I’ve been shooting springers for over 40 years and they are very hold sensitive. The lighter the hold the better. I own a weihrauch HW98 and 95k both break barrels and they are pellet on pellet over 30+ metres if held correctly. I also own an array of PCP’s from budget to my BRK ghost and they’re really not fussy how you grip them. I don’t want to seem like I’m teaching a granny to suck eggs just a bit of advice from a shooter with over 40 years experience with spring piston rifles. Enjoying the content 👍🏼 brilliant standing stance ( artillery hold )
@@FREE_SPIRIT_WANDERER_71 hello sir! Thank you for your thought out considered response! Appreciate all constructive feedback. I have changed my ways since this video. Lighter artillery hold on anything not pcp. Appreciate you watching and comment! Cheeeers! 👍🏻
Great rifle with PCP accuracy. Even better accuracy than a lot of PCP's on the market if you know how to shoot the 97. The scope is way to big, you need to swap to a more compact scope to get good acces to the loading port. Thanks for showing and hold the underlever when loading👍Cheers!
@@tvm-reviews I own two 97's and i also forget sometimes to hold the underlever 🤥 There is one more thing, you have to hold the underlever firm because if you only hold it and things should go wrong your brain won't give you the time to react and your loading thumb will be crossed anyway.
Great review Better than the Turkish delight stuff which you will have forgotten in a few years . These don't really have a bear trap that's the AA tx . It's held on the safety with these so do keep hold of the lever when your fingers are in there . Gun is great and you did well .they do shoot better free hand.or off a softer bag . Thank you for reviewing this . It and you will getting better the more you shoot . People will talk about tunning and it makes a massive difference but they are good enough for most people out the box . That one didn't twang that badly either . Great views please keep up the good work ,most enjoyable. Oh the scope is too long .makes loading difficult A proper air rifle A lot of people that go PCP come back to these for a reason.
100% agree. I’d “scope out” pun intended… a shorter scope if I was keeping this one. But yeah right now my top 2 rifles are the HW100 and this hw97. Don’t want to fanboy but they’re pretty amazing!
I have the very same one and I love it and got it very cheap indeed. I was after a 97k as a back up and was going to go for a beech sporter and was going buy one that following week. Then I was in a local pub one Sunday afternoon and a guy I sort of knew was at the bar and we got talking shooting and I mentioned that I was looking for a 97k in 22 and he said he had a blue laminate and was I interested? I remember him saying only a few months prior he’d bought one but he said he needed the cash and didn’t have the time anymore for it. He said he had bought it in a package deal, scope bag pellets etc for about £650 and still had the box for it. He was asking £500 to which I refused point blank. Anyhow after much haggling and fortunately I had a load of cash on me I waved £300 under his nose saying take it or leave it knowing I had another £100 in pocket which I removed from my wallet when I popped to the gents before we started to talk money. At first he said no but I knew I was so close to a deal, so I said I’ve no more cash but I’ll buy you a pint on my card and he accepted, bingo! But I wasn’t really after a blue laminate version as my rifles get used for vermin control and I hadn’t been looking for one either and certainly wasn’t going to pay the extra for the privilege either but I’d got myself a dam good deal and I knew it. But only a week or so later my local gun shop had a mint condition beach stock in for sale at only around £75 I believe he was asking and as I knew the guy very well he let me have it for £60 so now I’ve kind of got two 97’s. Definitely recommend a 97 to anyone and at some point I’ll be looking for one in 177 possibly a second hand one with a bit of a scabby stock to dress it up in a nice laminate instead.
@tvm-reviews sadly in life nothing is fail safe. Very much enjoying your reviews. Just watched you with the R12. I bought one yesterday. Hope I didn't offend
Well dang it...I thought springers need to be held consistently correct, artillery hold, all that. But you didn't do that and it shot great. Now I need one.
I have the HW97K in .177, and chose the plastic stock, for durability. I had my first air-rifle, a second hand BSA Meteor, in 1969. It is still reliable, and fun to shoot. However, I had always hankered after a Weihrauch, and decided that I would use my first month Old Age Pension to fulfill this ambition. I have not been disappointed!
I take mine out in the field and don't bother with a mod, even though you can get a good one from Weihrauch or fit an adapter. They sound quite loud when you fire them but your ear is right by the piston, twenty yards away they are really quiet.
13:08 Horrified to see you loading the hw97k and not holding the underlever and tightly too ! If the anti bear trap and or safety should fail ,you loose your thumb, thumbing in a pellet. Same with break barrels, hang on to that swinging barrel . Nice review by the way
Thank you! Yes. Sadly I didn’t do enough research and have had the feedback from a lot of you and I appreciate it! Definitely won’t happen again. Just glad I got to keep both my thumbs for my cheers!!!
It's also worth pointing out that there's no “anti bear trap” (device that locks the compression cylinder in place and has to be manually released) on the HW97. It has a trigger block, linked to the underlever, that acts as an additional safety catch and stops the trigger being pulled until the underlever has been clipped back in place. If the trigger sear fails or slips when the rifle is cocked there is nothing stopping the piston and compression cylinder flying forward. As @briandix216 said, Always keep a firm grip in the underlever or break barrel when loading.
Best underlever for the money available, love mine to bits. I currently have one of these (with the beech sporter stock, I like wood) and a HW100 bullpup, all the airguns I need. Not that that will stop me buying more, I have my eye on a HW98 too...
Be a bit more careful hanging on to the lever when your thumb is in the breach though, it's just held on the safety and isn't a proper anti-beartrap. If you set the trigger as light as you can, and they do go very light, you can bump the gun and have it slam shut. That could cost you the top joint of your thumb and, more importantly, get blood all over your laminate stock. Keep a good, solid grip on the lever whenever it's being loaded. Two fingers isn't enough, it'll rip out of your grip before you can react, I've seen it happen.
Also try it with a smaller scope, I fitted an MTC Viper Pro 10x44 fixed on mine, looks stunning and it's as much scope as you need at springer ranges.
Cheers!🍻 all great advice as I had no idea haha. Will be safer. Need those fingers.
@@tvm-reviews I also recommend getting a grip for the cocking lever (Rowan Engineering do a great one) for a bit more purchase. Doesn't hurt that they look cool too.
All the best mate, glad you enjoyed shooting the 97 as much as I do, they really are a sweet bit of kit.
please aways keep one hand on the cocking lever
Hello good sir. I’ve been shooting springers for over 40 years and they are very hold sensitive. The lighter the hold the better. I own a weihrauch HW98 and 95k both break barrels and they are pellet on pellet over 30+ metres if held correctly. I also own an array of PCP’s from budget to my BRK ghost and they’re really not fussy how you grip them. I don’t want to seem like I’m teaching a granny to suck eggs just a bit of advice from a shooter with over 40 years experience with spring piston rifles. Enjoying the content 👍🏼 brilliant standing stance ( artillery hold )
@@FREE_SPIRIT_WANDERER_71 hello sir! Thank you for your thought out considered response! Appreciate all constructive feedback. I have changed my ways since this video. Lighter artillery hold on anything not pcp. Appreciate you watching and comment! Cheeeers! 👍🏻
Great rifle with PCP accuracy. Even better accuracy than a lot of PCP's on the market if you know how to shoot the 97. The scope is way to big, you need to swap to a more compact scope to get good acces to the loading port. Thanks for showing and hold the underlever when loading👍Cheers!
Seems I missed the underlever on some shots as I’m getting g told about it a lot. 😂
@@tvm-reviews I own two 97's and i also forget sometimes to hold the underlever 🤥 There is one more thing, you have to hold the underlever firm because if you only hold it and things should go wrong your brain won't give you the time to react and your loading thumb will be crossed anyway.
I have one of these and it is a brilliant gun.also got a walther lgu.....well worth a look.
I’ll take a look at the walther. May be able to get my hands on one. This has made me want to look more in to this world. 👍🏻👍🏻
@@tvm-reviews Bit hard to find only 2nd hand.
Great review
Better than the Turkish delight stuff which you will have forgotten in a few years .
These don't really have a bear trap that's the AA tx .
It's held on the safety with these so do keep hold of the lever when your fingers are in there .
Gun is great and you did well .they do shoot better free hand.or off a softer bag .
Thank you for reviewing this .
It and you will getting better the more you shoot .
People will talk about tunning and it makes a massive difference but they are good enough for most people out the box .
That one didn't twang that badly either .
Great views please keep up the good work ,most enjoyable.
Oh the scope is too long .makes loading difficult
A proper air rifle
A lot of people that go PCP come back to these for a reason.
100% agree. I’d “scope out” pun intended… a shorter scope if I was keeping this one. But yeah right now my top 2 rifles are the HW100 and this hw97. Don’t want to fanboy but they’re pretty amazing!
The 97 is the best springer out there love mine mine love jsb 10.34
Have a go with Bisley Magnums, also 10.34 but about 2/3 the price of the JSBs. Mine loves them.
Try RWS Superdomes too ( very cheap ) .... I can match my S-410 easily with them !
Pelets it likes the most seem to be field target trophy going on what most people say about these german rifles
Awesome. The jsb were ace. But I’m willing to do a pellet test… because u get to play more. Haha
Excelente tirada amigaso saludos y bendiciones
Cheeers!
Hw rifles shoot great straight out of the box, but if you get it tuned by sandwell, LSD or ratworks they become even better 1😉👍
One of my mates has one of these, it's very nice. Think my next purchase is gunna be the hw100
quietest/unusual sounding springier, lovely rifle
Springers are a great way of getting better shooting, because of the follow through. But they are a great gun and my next gun .
100%
I have a hw30, and 50, now I need one of these!
Yes! Yes you do!
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I have the very same one and I love it and got it very cheap indeed. I was after a 97k as a back up and was going to go for a beech sporter and was going buy one that following week. Then I was in a local pub one Sunday afternoon and a guy I sort of knew was at the bar and we got talking shooting and I mentioned that I was looking for a 97k in 22 and he said he had a blue laminate and was I interested? I remember him saying only a few months prior he’d bought one but he said he needed the cash and didn’t have the time anymore for it. He said he had bought it in a package deal, scope bag pellets etc for about £650 and still had the box for it. He was asking £500 to which I refused point blank. Anyhow after much haggling and fortunately I had a load of cash on me I waved £300 under his nose saying take it or leave it knowing I had another £100 in pocket which I removed from my wallet when I popped to the gents before we started to talk money. At first he said no but I knew I was so close to a deal, so I said I’ve no more cash but I’ll buy you a pint on my card and he accepted, bingo!
But I wasn’t really after a blue laminate version as my rifles get used for vermin control and I hadn’t been looking for one either and certainly wasn’t going to pay the extra for the privilege either but I’d got myself a dam good deal and I knew it. But only a week or so later my local gun shop had a mint condition beach stock in for sale at only around £75 I believe he was asking and as I knew the guy very well he let me have it for £60 so now I’ve kind of got two 97’s.
Definitely recommend a 97 to anyone and at some point I’ll be looking for one in 177 possibly a second hand one with a bit of a scabby stock to dress it up in a nice laminate instead.
Finaly some decent stuff 😁😁
😜 haha
It does look good kn thr blue it had to be said
thank you for the video👍
Worries me to see you not holding onto that cooking lever.
I love my 97
I was conscious of this and still didn’t when I started filming. The HW97 has a fail safe however yes best practices should be observed and I didn’t.
@tvm-reviews sadly in life nothing is fail safe.
Very much enjoying your reviews. Just watched you with the R12.
I bought one yesterday.
Hope I didn't offend
@@brianreed1451 thanks mate. Appreciate the watches! Just a novice having fun lol
Good video, straight to the point. I have this rifle in 25 cal., another perfectly engineered rifle period...thanks.
25?
Think I missed a whole section I filmed shooting the swinging target. Dammit
Nice air gun in springer.
It’s lovely!
HW97K is the best. Heritage, German engineering, Tick daven accuracy, the Rolls Royse of Air Rifles. The true Connoisseurs Air Rifle.
FYI I got banned from TikTok 🤦♂️
Good to see you using the superior german rifles
Well dang it...I thought springers need to be held consistently correct, artillery hold, all that. But you didn't do that and it shot great. Now I need one.
Exactly this shows my flaws are not a problem with high end equipment haha. I will learn.
04:22 - how not to shoot a springer. You don't hold these tight. You hold them loose and let them kick.
Cheers! Yup learning as I go. Thanks for the advice and have changed my ways.
Is that a functional moderator on the barrel?
@@johnauberry1500 it is believe
I wish the blue laminate stock had stippling.
Agree. A little slick! 💦
Mine loves Baracuda 8's.
And I mean.......absolutely LOVES them.
Yes, it shoots great.
You didn't do yourself any favors shooting off a table that didn't look stable..
Yeah. We’ve moved on. I’m learning lol
@@tvm-reviews Its all good..
Stop over at academy sports and gets some blue bombers pellets
Thanks for the recommendation! I’ll take a look. Cheers!
1.77 QyS
Good Vid ....Always hold onto the barrel while loading a pellet ...if that safety fails you will lose your finger
Keep your hand on the under lever when loading please
Yup. Lesson definitely learnt. 👍🏻👌
Very nice review !!!!!
🍻 cheers!
I have the HW97K in .177, and chose the plastic stock, for durability. I had my first air-rifle, a second hand BSA Meteor, in 1969. It is still reliable, and fun to shoot. However, I had always hankered after a Weihrauch, and decided that I would use my first month Old Age Pension to fulfill this ambition. I have not been disappointed!
Great choice. I feel any rifle from this company is a great choice!
I used to shoot 97s until I bought a hw95 omg now the 97 is collecting dust
@@LoneWolfLifeStyle2 That is really interesting - what advantage do you find the 95 has?
@@LoneWolfLifeStyle2why?
Hey, good shooting and review! Qq, is the muzzle crack loud?
Well it’s on par with most. Wasn’t shockingly loud.
Is that as quiet as it sounded on the audio!?
It was really quiet! I’m assuming it may get worse but I didn’t have the twang as reported!
@@tvm-reviews I have an old HW35 I was gifted and the twang is so loud the neighbours dog goes nuts 🤯🐕
I take mine out in the field and don't bother with a mod, even though you can get a good one from Weihrauch or fit an adapter. They sound quite loud when you fire them but your ear is right by the piston, twenty yards away they are really quiet.
im a left hander and my 1.77 is the dogs do dahs
I would firstly fit a longer scope,
Or shorter? Was just in the way wasn’t too awkward.
@@tvm-reviews spot my sarcasm
@@louisvanderwath8536 hahah. My bad. Been bombarded today. 😂
Beautiful rifle
Actually really great fun as well
Completely the wrong way to rest a spring gun
Thanks Jamie. To help me what’s the best way so. Can learn. Cheers
13:08 Horrified to see you loading the hw97k and not holding the underlever and tightly too ! If the anti bear trap and or safety should fail ,you loose your thumb, thumbing in a pellet. Same with break barrels, hang on to that swinging barrel . Nice review by the way
Thank you! Yes. Sadly I didn’t do enough research and have had the feedback from a lot of you and I appreciate it! Definitely won’t happen again. Just glad I got to keep both my thumbs for my cheers!!!
It's also worth pointing out that there's no “anti bear trap” (device that locks the compression cylinder in place and has to be manually released) on the HW97. It has a trigger block, linked to the underlever, that acts as an additional safety catch and stops the trigger being pulled until the underlever has been clipped back in place. If the trigger sear fails or slips when the rifle is cocked there is nothing stopping the piston and compression cylinder flying forward. As @briandix216 said, Always keep a firm grip in the underlever or break barrel when loading.