Thanks for your informative and well put together vid on the 97KT blackline. I shot a couple of pellets through one today and was really impressed. You have just made my mind up, am now going to buy it tomorrow.
That was a great representation of the gun. You Sr are very clear in you description of it and the proper use of it. That was a great video I have been interested in that gun for a while now and this has helped. Thanks
your an amazing shot!! and have a great way of presenting - totally agree to previous comments - your attitude towards it is fantastic. love your vids - keep them coming!!!
This is most excellent, I think 90% of us own springers and love them. The economy is a little ruff to get started up in PCP for most of us. I just got one of these used in .22 for $240 at a pawn shop. I am pretty sure my RWS 34 will be collecting a lot of dust now! I do a lot of pest control for 7 different farms and a feed lot here, wish I had a video camera setup so I could upload to youtube. Again THANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's the one reason I enjoy your channel: your diversity on air rifles. I too use both spring powered and PCP, many of my single strokes are also Nitro-gas piston as well break barrels, and although I enjoy the PCPs, I prefer the spring/gas break barrels. Main reasons why is that it takes more skill to shoot them (mastering the "artillery hold" being one of them), but you can shoot all day long if your cocking arm can hold out, without the troubleshooting complexities that a misfiring PCP can present. As I stated in a comment in another video, many break barrels sold here in the states average over a 1,000fps, my average break barrels exceed even that, even in .22, and there are a couple models on the market that can hurl out a .25 at that speed, but I too use heavier pellets especially in my .177 ones for the same reason (knock-down power), as well as I want to keep the speed well below the sound barrier limit so they are as quiet as possible (anything less than a 10.65gr has them sounding like a .22 rimfire!). I have noticed that many of the spring powered in the UK tend to be under-leavers in various videos I have seen; I am assuming that those are the most common there, as well are there any under-leavers offered in a gas-piston model? I have seen a few on various retail sites here in the states, but not many. Wonderful review, and I have seen your videos with this baby in action. Big fan :) looking forward to any more videos of yours I have missed and new ones to come.
Theoben was the first to bring gas piston air rifles to the market many years ago and i had one of there .25 eliminators years ago, a beast of a gun but accurate and beautifully finished but expensive they also did an under lever with a seven shot mag called the SLR 88 and 98 models but they are sadly not made anymore but impact airguns now produce a similar single shot model gas ram under lever called the RM200 that looks really nice.
Excellent review I own one for over 10yrs now and it has never let me down nice tight groups and brilliant accuracy. Great and efficient means of hunting small game if shi*t ever hits the fan.
i just bought the HW 97 k and i have to say that im impressed with the accuracy i never thought that a springer could punch tight groups like that ,, thanks for the review
Excellent review. All of your videos are superb and professionally done, you have the best hunting/shooting channel on TH-cam. I look forward to many more of your videos.
Excellent yet again! I've been awaiting a springer vid with baited breath! This was a brilliant teaser, looking forward to seeing you bag a few magpies and rabbits with it!!
Fantastic video again Sir. That brings back memories to my first three rifles I ever got. The first was a HW-80 carbine, second was a HW-77 carbine. Next was the HW-90 standard barrel. Out of the three I found HW-77 was better and more consistent due to under-leaver cocking. Great video again Sir :o))))))
Like you i have just purchased a 97k. also like you i have used Pc for a number of years. i only bought mine on Thursday, i have'nt shot it yet so am looking forward to trying it out. This is my first ever Weihrauch. Thanks for the video.
Thank you .....i am really enjoying this Rifle and i must say that your Endorsment of it helped in my decision to get it....i have it in .22 though keep doing what you do
I'm about to take delivery of one of these in .22, timber thumbhole stock and nickel barrel version. In Australia, we aren't trusted with a suppressor so hopefully it's not too loud. The only thing I don't like is the auto-setting safety, it adds to the noise, clearly heard in your excellent video. As I type, I received the text message from my dealer, telling me my permit to acquire has been issued! If I could be critical for a moment, you mentioned the stippling isn't as grippy as it could be, yet you're clearly aware of the "artillery hold" required on such a powerful air rifle. I follow your excellent channel, I also look forward to seeing this very capable rifle in action. Thank you sincerely.
love the videos u inspired me to get into air rifles,i got the hatsan bt 65 sb in .25 cal i been knocking down squirrels with it left and right.so far i have only let two slip away as i walked right up on the didnt see them and they took off never stopping then losing them in the brush and undergrowth. your videos are great and always a thumbs up from your pal in Alabama USA. i got a few videos up of my own now soon more to come if your able check them out.later cant wait for the next video.
Great vid David. Thanks to your vid I'm one more Weihrauch richer as of today. Ordered myself identical one to yours in .177. I have an HW77 .22 stablemate waiting to meet the new addition.
I like your attitude and your style. I have used some of your stalking methods and your site to influence my attitude for hunting and shooting. Thank you for your posts.
Only just found this vid, great review, I’ve got pcp air guns but really like my springers, much more satisfying when you constantly hit the targets, got an LGU a Prosport and a TX200 all 177, saving up for a 97 blue laminate, now a subscriber looking forward to more vids, keep em coming.
Yes the nitrogen powered rifles would also be recoil sensitive because although they use a sealed gas strut to power the piston forward in stead of a steal spring, they still recoil on firing while the pellet is still in the barrel. Unlike a pcp which has no large moving parts on firing so no recoil.
Both will kill rabbit sized game out to 35-40 yards with a well placed shot, the .177 shoots faster and flatter but the .22 does have more knock down power and better for heart shots. I already have two air rifles in .22cal and wanted to try something different so went for the .177 for a change.
nice one mate great bit of kit there . i myself had a hw85k when i first started hunting rabbits and what a great gun it was . have to agree with you on the trigger mate it was fantastic and a real joy to shoot .
nice to see a springer :). great vid and you are still a great shot even without a pcp.waiting for that hunt with this rifle.regards from Trinidad and Tobago
Yes I believe a springer can be left cocked while looking for quarry mate. The danger of leaving it cocked is when the rifle is in storage at home as spring under pressure will gradually weaken
Funny enough I have just bought one of these a few days ago, the synthetic version in 177 really appealed to me for an all weather hunter, that and I'm getting abit bored with the pcps and like abit of a challenge! Like I started out with a springer and miss the simple days of grabbing the rifle and filling pocket full of pellets! Mine is all tuned now, the scope should be here today, a simmons super nightview.. and will hopefully have some videos in the near future! Great video, faved. FMG
When the HW97 is cocked the safety catch pops out so the gun is on safe. To fire it you have to push the safety catch in. But if you don't fire the gun after pushing the safety catch in you have to bring the cocking arm down as if you are cocking the rifle again to reengage the safety catch and make the rifle safe again.
i just i picked up a new 97kt in wood .. sexy it seems these are the guns to have this year ... thanks for great reviews from yourself and si pitway etc .... lots of us are leaving the pcp's at home now and getting back to old school :-) but with out the old school rubbish recoils like of old .. these are bloody great :-)
Very nice review there David. Ive thumbed that buddy. Nice shooting too on the magpie. I think the HW97KT is a well under estimated rifle IMOA. Im looking forward to watching you hunt with it. Si.
I have one of these on order from Pownalls in .22 with a Nikko Sterling 3-9X50 Panamax scope. I initially ordered a Walther Rotex RM8 but called up the shop this morning after seeing bad reviews regarding the RM8's internal component quality. The guy was really helpful and said changing my order was no problem. It was a coin flip between this and the Air Arms TX200 in Leftie walnut stock (beautiful gun) , but the HW97 won the toss as it was much cheaper, allowing me to add a much better scope, and a pop-up pellet trap target. Can't wait for it to get delivered so I can get down to some serious garden plinking :)
Sounds great i always thought the Airarms Prosport was the best looking springer on the market but i don't think there is anything in it between the TX200 and the HW97 they both shoot really well though the Airarms might have nicer wood work.
@@HuntersVermin Yeah the TX200 does have nicer wood. I'm surprised Weihrauch didn't offer any walnut or laminate stock options on the 97. They have some nice options on other models. Gun shop called me to let me know no blued synthetic HW97's in stock so they offered to upgrade me to the synthetic stainless finish :) No shot it yet, itching to get to the range.
Great video and review david. Thanks for watching our video's mate (kps hunters) ans as ken said, when you over on the mainland again, pop up for some hardcore ratting.!!! Atb, paul.
Make sure all the stock and scope mount screws are all tight, plus don't shoot the gun off of a hard rest as spring guns don't like that, but ether rest it on a large cushion or shoot it from your usual hunting stance to zero it in. Also try using a different pellet as some barrels can be pellet fussy.
I did buy the HW77K .22 as I am in Canada and have a fire arms license it's not limited to 495fps. I think mine is in the neighborhood of 800 fps It's awesome and one of my favorites
Well in N'Ireland you need a licence for any air rifle. If you go to you local gun shop they will help you pick out a rifle and sort out the paper work etc that you will need for the licence. But a good spring powered gun like the HW95k will last you a life time.
I use a Bushnell Scout 1000 and i have only changed the battery's once so far. There might be something wrong if you are only getting 4-5 ranges from the battery. I really only put up videos when i get the time to hunt edit and then up load it.
I usually stick to about 35-40 yards with my spring powered air rifle. But if you have the money then yes i would recommend getting it tuned as it will make the rifle shoot much smother but have a good gun smith do the work like Tony at Sandwell Field Sports.
Thanks for your informative and well put together vid on the 97KT blackline. I shot a couple of pellets through one today and was really impressed. You have just made my mind up, am now going to buy it tomorrow.
Thanks glad you found the review so useful.
That was a great representation of the gun. You Sr are very clear in you description of it and the proper use of it. That was a great video I have been interested in that gun for a while now and this has helped. Thanks
Yes Weihrauch are good, glad you liked the vid.
your an amazing shot!!
and have a great way of presenting - totally agree to previous comments - your attitude towards it is fantastic.
love your vids - keep them coming!!!
This is most excellent, I think 90% of us own springers and love them. The economy is a little ruff to get started up in PCP for most of us. I just got one of these used in .22 for $240 at a pawn shop. I am pretty sure my RWS 34 will be collecting a lot of dust now! I do a lot of pest control for 7 different farms and a feed lot here, wish I had a video camera setup so I could upload to youtube. Again THANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's the one reason I enjoy your channel: your diversity on air rifles. I too use both spring powered and PCP, many of my single strokes are also Nitro-gas piston as well break barrels, and although I enjoy the PCPs, I prefer the spring/gas break barrels. Main reasons why is that it takes more skill to shoot them (mastering the "artillery hold" being one of them), but you can shoot all day long if your cocking arm can hold out, without the troubleshooting complexities that a misfiring PCP can present.
As I stated in a comment in another video, many break barrels sold here in the states average over a 1,000fps, my average break barrels exceed even that, even in .22, and there are a couple models on the market that can hurl out a .25 at that speed, but I too use heavier pellets especially in my .177 ones for the same reason (knock-down power), as well as I want to keep the speed well below the sound barrier limit so they are as quiet as possible (anything less than a 10.65gr has them sounding like a .22 rimfire!).
I have noticed that many of the spring powered in the UK tend to be under-leavers in various videos I have seen; I am assuming that those are the most common there, as well are there any under-leavers offered in a gas-piston model? I have seen a few on various retail sites here in the states, but not many.
Wonderful review, and I have seen your videos with this baby in action. Big fan :) looking forward to any more videos of yours I have missed and new ones to come.
Theoben was the first to bring gas piston air rifles to the market many years ago and i had one of there .25 eliminators years ago, a beast of a gun but accurate and beautifully finished but expensive they also did an under lever with a seven shot mag called the SLR 88 and 98 models but they are sadly not made anymore but impact airguns now produce a similar single shot model gas ram under lever called the RM200 that looks really nice.
I know what you mean as it took me a good bit of practice to get into the way of it again. Nice to hear from you.
Excellent review I own one for over 10yrs now and it has never let me down nice tight groups and brilliant accuracy. Great and efficient means of hunting small game if shi*t ever hits the fan.
I have a HW97K .22 and love it. This rifle has taken countless rabbits. Another great vid!
Glad you enjoyed it, i might get mine tuned up too some day.
Brilliant - as always. Looking forward to seeing what it can do in the field.
i just bought the HW 97 k and i have to say that im impressed with the accuracy i never thought that a springer could punch tight groups like that ,, thanks for the review
Excellent review. All of your videos are superb and professionally done, you have the best hunting/shooting channel on TH-cam. I look forward to many more of your videos.
I really do like your rifle rest you made looks damn good, love the crackle effect finish too. Far better than anything you could buy in the shop.!
This is the best review I've seen on this model. Thank you!!
Your welcome and good luck with your new rifle.
Thank you very much for your comment and watching.
Yes I've always liked the record unit, i adjusted mine a little to have the pull wait similar to my other rifles.
Great review thanks for the pointers on springers.
No problem 👍
I am sorry as i don't have a link to the magpie target as i was given the target by a friend which i just make copy's of it when needed.
Thanks very much, there are a few videos already up loaded with me hunting with the HW97.
Thank you very much for that, glad you enjoyed it.
Excellent yet again! I've been awaiting a springer vid with baited breath! This was a brilliant teaser, looking forward to seeing you bag a few magpies and rabbits with it!!
Great review - excellent commentary and camera work.
Fantastic video again Sir. That brings back memories to my first three rifles I ever got. The first was a HW-80 carbine, second was a HW-77 carbine. Next was the HW-90 standard barrel. Out of the three I found HW-77 was better and more consistent due to under-leaver cocking. Great video again Sir :o))))))
Like you i have just purchased a 97k. also like you i have used Pc for a number of years. i only bought mine on Thursday, i have'nt shot it yet so am looking forward to trying it out.
This is my first ever Weihrauch. Thanks for the video.
Thank you .....i am really enjoying this Rifle and i must say that your Endorsment of it helped in my decision to get it....i have it in .22 though keep doing what you do
Yes i will be trying the HW97 out on some farmyard vermin soon.
Excellent Review, I like the way it shoots, It will make a nice addition to collection,
Thanks David....
Thanks very much Si, it shoots really well for a standard rifle, you must get a lot of pleasure out of shooting your Sandwell Fieldsports tuned model.
Thanks Malc, glad you enjoyed the video.
I have the exact same rifle, i love it best rifle I've ever had.
Really good no nonsense review of a great rifle. Thank you.
I'm about to take delivery of one of these in .22, timber thumbhole stock and nickel barrel version. In Australia, we aren't trusted with a suppressor so hopefully it's not too loud. The only thing I don't like is the auto-setting safety, it adds to the noise, clearly heard in your excellent video. As I type, I received the text message from my dealer, telling me my permit to acquire has been issued! If I could be critical for a moment, you mentioned the stippling isn't as grippy as it could be, yet you're clearly aware of the "artillery hold" required on such a powerful air rifle. I follow your excellent channel, I also look forward to seeing this very capable rifle in action. Thank you sincerely.
Thank you and glad you enjoyed the video and hope you enjoy your new rifle.
love the videos u inspired me to get into air rifles,i got the hatsan bt 65 sb in .25 cal i been knocking down squirrels with it left and right.so far i have only let two slip away as i walked right up on the didnt see them and they took off never stopping then losing them in the brush and undergrowth. your videos are great and always a thumbs up from your pal in Alabama USA. i got a few videos up of my own now soon more to come if your able check them out.later cant wait for the next video.
True no worries about how much air you have left in the tank.
Great vid David. Thanks to your vid I'm one more Weihrauch richer as of today. Ordered myself identical one to yours in .177. I have an HW77 .22 stablemate waiting to meet the new addition.
Another great video mate :) that rifle has amazing accuracy for a springer, it more than rivals PCP accuracy!
your one of the best shots ive ever seen, props
I like your attitude and your style. I have used some of your stalking methods and your site to influence my attitude for hunting and shooting. Thank you for your posts.
I had one for years and loved it but wanted something different this time.
Thanks for watching, glad you've enjoyed them so far.
Only just found this vid, great review, I’ve got pcp air guns but really like my springers, much more satisfying when you constantly hit the targets, got an LGU a Prosport and a TX200 all 177, saving up for a 97 blue laminate, now a subscriber looking forward to more vids, keep em coming.
Which is your favourite out of the three you own
nice review! make me want to buy another springer for myself. looking forward to seeing you hunt with it!
That is very good shooting buddy, great review, thanx
Thank you very much or the comment, glad that you have enjoyed the videos.
Great review. Looking forward to seeing some video of you hunting with it.
Yes the nitrogen powered rifles would also be recoil sensitive because although they use a sealed gas strut to power the piston forward in stead of a steal spring, they still recoil on firing while the pellet is still in the barrel. Unlike a pcp which has no large moving parts on firing so no recoil.
HV That was brilliant! I am glad to see you have joined the ranks of HW97k owners =) We all love them!
ATB Malc
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Both will kill rabbit sized game out to 35-40 yards with a well placed shot, the .177 shoots faster and flatter but the .22 does have more knock down power and better for heart shots. I already have two air rifles in .22cal and wanted to try something different so went for the .177 for a change.
Yes i'l have a look at that it sounds like a good idea for a video.
Thanks hopefully have some hunting footage up soon.
nice one mate great bit of kit there .
i myself had a hw85k when i first started hunting rabbits and what a great gun it was . have to agree with you on the trigger mate it was fantastic and a real joy to shoot .
Glad you liked the videos.
Thanks, hopefully i'l some hunting footage soon.
nice to see a springer :). great vid and you are still a great shot even without a pcp.waiting for that hunt with this rifle.regards from Trinidad and Tobago
Really great review! What an awesome air rifle.
just ordered a hw 97 synthetic stainless in 177. Hope is shoots half as good as yours...from Alabama in USA
Yes I believe a springer can be left cocked while looking for quarry mate. The danger of leaving it cocked is when the rifle is in storage at home as spring under pressure will gradually weaken
Great Video once again ,keep them coming David.
great video and great rifle! I have the same rifle but with the nickle plated parts! recommed this to everyone!
Funny enough I have just bought one of these a few days ago, the synthetic version in 177 really appealed to me for an all weather hunter, that and I'm getting abit bored with the pcps and like abit of a challenge! Like I started out with a springer and miss the simple days of grabbing the rifle and filling pocket full of pellets! Mine is all tuned now, the scope should be here today, a simmons super nightview.. and will hopefully have some videos in the near future! Great video, faved. FMG
When the HW97 is cocked the safety catch pops out so the gun is on safe. To fire it you have to push the safety catch in. But if you don't fire the gun after pushing the safety catch in you have to bring the cocking arm down as if you are cocking the rifle again to reengage the safety catch and make the rifle safe again.
Yes hopefully i'l have some hunting footage soon.
i just i picked up a new 97kt in wood .. sexy
it seems these are the guns to have this year ... thanks for great reviews from yourself and si pitway etc .... lots of us are leaving the pcp's at home now and getting back to old school :-)
but with out the old school rubbish recoils like of old .. these are bloody great :-)
Thank you glad you liked the video.
I'd love a walnut version of this beauty.
Yeah i know what you mean after so many years using pcp's i missed the springer as well.
Glad you liked it.
Very nice review there David.
Ive thumbed that buddy.
Nice shooting too on the magpie.
I think the HW97KT is a well under estimated rifle IMOA.
Im looking forward to watching you hunt with it.
Si.
Thanks fellas i'd love that, think Malc is wanting another go at the rats with the 303.
your videos are very professional!! i really enjoy em! thanks
Lefty's have always had to pay that little bit extra, but i see more manufactures are producing guns to suit both right and left handers now.
So was I, i shot one and really liked it but the HW97 was cheaper but i don't regret buying it only that i cant afford both.
Yes i would recommend the HW97 it is a little heavy but very accurate. This one cost me £350.
True the first time i cocked the rifle i couldn't believe how quiet the cocking stroke was, with no sound of the spring at all.
Thank you glad you enjoyed it.
I have one of these on order from Pownalls in .22 with a Nikko Sterling 3-9X50 Panamax scope. I initially ordered a Walther Rotex RM8 but called up the shop this morning after seeing bad reviews regarding the RM8's internal component quality. The guy was really helpful and said changing my order was no problem. It was a coin flip between this and the Air Arms TX200 in Leftie walnut stock (beautiful gun) , but the HW97 won the toss as it was much cheaper, allowing me to add a much better scope, and a pop-up pellet trap target. Can't wait for it to get delivered so I can get down to some serious garden plinking :)
Sounds great i always thought the Airarms Prosport was the best looking springer on the market but i don't think there is anything in it between the TX200 and the HW97 they both shoot really well though the Airarms might have nicer wood work.
@@HuntersVermin Yeah the TX200 does have nicer wood. I'm surprised Weihrauch didn't offer any walnut or laminate stock options on the 97. They have some nice options on other models. Gun shop called me to let me know no blued synthetic HW97's in stock so they offered to upgrade me to the synthetic stainless finish :) No shot it yet, itching to get to the range.
Yes it only seems to be adjustable on the wooden TH stock and not the plastic one i have.
I ordered it through a local gun dealer as he had'n any in stock but they will all come from the main dealer in England.
I have to admit i did miss those care free days when you just lifted the gun and pellets before heading out the door.
Great review bro, thank you!🙏
Glad you liked it!
The TX200 HC is a lovely looking rifle.
Great video and review david. Thanks for watching our video's mate (kps hunters) ans as ken said, when you over on the mainland again, pop up for some hardcore ratting.!!!
Atb, paul.
Yes the Airarms rifles are very nice too.
Thanks. Look forward to seeing the videos.
Thanks for watching, have fun with your HW97
Believe me i have been very frustrated in the past waiting for a peaceful moment to film in, but when it is quiet it is very nice.
Make sure all the stock and scope mount screws are all tight, plus don't shoot the gun off of a hard rest as spring guns don't like that, but ether rest it on a large cushion or shoot it from your usual hunting stance to zero it in. Also try using a different pellet as some barrels can be pellet fussy.
Thanks i also started out using an HW80.
I did buy the HW77K .22 as I am in Canada and have a fire arms license it's not limited to 495fps. I think mine is in the neighborhood of 800 fps It's awesome and one of my favorites
Well in N'Ireland you need a licence for any air rifle. If you go to you local gun shop they will help you pick out a rifle and sort out the paper work etc that you will need for the licence. But a good spring powered gun like the HW95k will last you a life time.
The gun shoots so well as is but yes i'l maybe look into getting it tuned up at some time.
Yeah there is something about shooting with a simple spring gun again that's nice.
Well one good reason was i needed the practice and two like a new engine in a car it needs run in to work constantly.
Another Great vid Dave well done
I use a Bushnell Scout 1000 and i have only changed the battery's once so far. There might be something wrong if you are only getting 4-5 ranges from the battery. I really only put up videos when i get the time to hunt edit and then up load it.
Great stuff! Im interested to see how it does in the field.
I usually stick to about 35-40 yards with my spring powered air rifle. But if you have the money then yes i would recommend getting it tuned as it will make the rifle shoot much smother but have a good gun smith do the work like Tony at Sandwell Field Sports.
It depends on the which model of HW97 you want as synthetic one i have was about £350 but the wooden stocked model is £400+.