New York Dumped More Than 2,500 Subway Cars Into the Ocean: Then This Happens 20 Years Later
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- New York Dumped More Than 2500 Subway Cars Into the Ocean: Then This Happens 20 Years Later
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Instead of being sunk in the ocean, why not convert these railcars into "tiny homes" for the homeless?!
same thought i always have, when i see the giant fields they store(uselessly park) old aircrafts &co .... there are whole deserts filled with empty shells that would make a decent sized basic home!
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WHO? Will pay for electricity and all the other freebies………. Like always, The US taxpayers??? (Only in America)🤷
They should of been recycled
@@prmath yea them taxpayers need to find some other country to screw up. The homeless actually care I agree 100% you tell em
A thousand years from now and divers will be enthusiastic to have discovered an old train station that was swallowed up by the ocean 😅
I was being sarcastic, you can sleep easy .I to think it's a bunch of Bull sh_t that they can fly on private jets and we are supposed to ride bicycles and not have air conditioning..
@@melissamcknight2916??
In some hundred years, steel decomposes. So this cars should be back to the natural resource.
Humans will be extinct in 40 years
In a 1000 years there won't be any humans left on earth
Whenever you have a bunch of junk, just throw it in the ocean and call it an artificial reef
EVS make great artificial reefs.
@@markmiller8903 Gotta recharge the eels somehow.
There is a ball of trash in the ocean as big as a continent. These people have it figured out when the ball of trash get big enough they plan on paving it. You will be able to drive from CA to Hawaii and recycling right at the beach! Doesn't NY dump barges of garbage in to the ocean also?
But it literally did make a reef?
Já tinha pensado nisso, mas depois vi que a minha ideia não tinha nada de original e então desisti.
Penso que enviar para o espaço é melhor.😅
Im a scrapdealer for more then 30y and i cant watch this without a tear in my wallet!
What a waste, those cars are 100% stainless steel, that couldn't be recycled?
That's what I thought was done with them
@@1940limited in a way
That's my thought. Stainless is $0.64/lb. There's a lot of stainless on one of those cars, and the iron undercarriage has value, too.
They are recycled, only after 2010
cost?
I served aboard U.S.S. Enterprise (CVN-65) and watched crew members tossing big stacks of stainless steel food trays from her fantail - thousands of still perfectly good food trays, thrown into the sea. Instead of recycling the steel, they used the ocean as a garbage dump and wasted taxpayer money too.
It is mind boggling, when you think about how half the country wants you to recycle every piece of plastic, and the other half just throws it all away lol. Nothing the gov spends money on even makes sense, and when you look into it, you find that most politicians hardly even know where the money goes. Imagine if we had our shit together, as much as we tell others to. Say if we always conserved and recycled our resources, the surplus we would have, as a nation.
They have to use up their budgeted money or won’t get as much next year.
This is pathetic and it’s sickening. Why not melt down the steel? Doesn’t steel have value? That’s like dumping trash in the ocean….what Americans don’t want others in the world to do. Are we hypocrites.? So who can up with this brilliant idea? Liberals I’m sure.
Post 2nd world war, there used to be a lot of footage of all types of aircraft being shoved off of flat tops into the sea….. 😥
u served on the uss enterprise was kirk your captain and spock your bunk mate ? ha ha ha thats too fuckin funny
Ny dumped ten’s of thousands of tons of trash in the oceans thru the 50’s thru the 80’s and wonder why the ny shores were polluted with trash, what a joke
Did not look like a tropical reef to me ! Just looks like someone has dumped lots of scrap metal on the sea floor
How about RECYCLING??? They require that WE waste our time doing this.
Instead they have CITY DEISEL BUSSES running 24-7 for migrants to live in while those hulks full of grease and toxic plastics rot the ocean.
Yea, being green is important for US not THEM
They didn't say tropical. The water doesn't magically become warm and full of tropical fish when you add rail cars. But artificial reefs are beneficial in all climates.
@@ninjafruitchilled or you could stop killing the real reefs?
@@HiDefHDMusic sure, that would be best, but that's a bigger issue than one city can solve. Better to do something to help where one can rather than just complain and do nothing.
@@ninjafruitchilled I like to complain and then take a shit in the ocean. That way the sea life has something to eat.
these train cars HAVE MORE USE than most politicians
Absolute fact.
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what blows my mind is that every year everyone freaks out about the sea levels rising - but yet there's NEVER any mention what-so-ever about water displacement 😂
... Even naturally occurring water displacement - erosion.
The surface area of the ocean is 361 million square kilometres, or 361 trillion square meters. This means that every millimetre of sea level rise requires 361 billion cubic meters of material. The Seawise Giant, the largest ship in the world, weighed 657,000 tonnes, meaning that it displaced 657,000 cubic meters of water when she was afloat. If every ship in the world was that big, it would take 550,000 ships to make sea level rise by one millimetre.
After a ship sinks it displaces less water. For every tonne that a ship displaces while afloat, it only displaces 127kg after it sinks.
@@michaelbujaki2462thanks that’ll shut them up
@@michaelbujaki2462 ok sure but that’s just ships - there’s oil rigs, bridge supports, destroyed sunken bridges and roads, underwater pipelines and tunnels, manmade docks & piers & islands & beaches and let’s not forget the tons of trash that’s been dumped since the beginning of civilization and now all the scrap that has fallen into it from we shot up in space and god only knows what else - so who’s keeping track of it all and more importantly WHEN did someone start keeping track? i would have to imagine us humans have already raised the sea level just by doing what we do best…NIMBY…oh i’m sorry…Progress.
Good point. But New York is working on it. 1 more bag of garbage, and we are all done. Hope it never floats ashore.
What a waste of valuable materials, Those cars could have been refurbished to be used on low ridership railroad branch lines, Thats Government logic for you.
There is no such thing as "low ridership railroad branch lines" in the US.
This is a hideous waste of valuable raw materials.
literally just a raw metal shell. not much material/s.
Unbelievable in the world of today where circularity is key.
I cannot believe authorities just dump their waste in the ocean.
@@user-hh4hc2lt6ewow. You are clueless
@@user-hh4hc2lt6e They're clearly not going to last in that capacity as many were piles of debris only already. Florida tried this with tires and that didn't work out either.
If it wasn’t obvious before that “recycling” in the US is completely fake….
Perfect to converse it into tiny homes for the homeless, instead of dumping into the ocean.
Makes you really have to stop and wonder how many tiny homes this could have made for humans. What a waste!
Saved us money. Now we don't have to pay for free electricity for those tiny homes
Facts . I just thought the same . Smh
@@nicholasswaim2835save you money? Money is not real . The oceans and people are . Smh
@@nicholasswaim2835 “free electricity” god republicans are the most gullible people alive 😂😂😂
@@kojoefante Money/assets, things of value are very real to people who work for them. The problem is to many people without any value. Not monetary value. But value as in being a productive person. That includes "rich" and/or "poor".
That's a small fortune in scrap. Do those fish pay rent?
Those poor fish don’t have many rights and can’t Sue in court
@@laurab9518 Same as poor humans. Do they pay rent?!
@@briankleinschmidt3664
Only the ones who have been in the military.
Bastard they could have scraped those machines
why not recycle the metal , such a stupid idea to put them in the ocean
this is an experiment....pay attention when you watch video!! 🤣😂🤣😂
They are recycling them the oceans need more coral reefs and that’s how they recycle them
Mean while the government is looking into why McDonald's ice cream machines are always broken. Priorities
they will spend energy and other resource to mine the same metal again....indeed it was stupid idea
It's still dumping trash in the ocean which is very irresponsible. If the neighbor's dog poops on your lawn,
Can he call it fertilizing the lawn?
technically yes
The water is too cold off the coasts of the states you mentioned for hard corals to grow. Interesting that New York was not one of the states mentioned, where these cars are dumped. Just another example of New York city dumping their trash in someone else's backyard.
Somehow the comments to this video got sidetracked (see what I did there) to a forum for homeless people.
These cars are difficult to transport and it costs more to retrofit one as a living structure than it costs to build a new house for the homeless.
Fish are an important resource and they appreciate the homes. Let’s be happy that they have a place to live 😎
Save the fish or save the homeless.
You can't do both.
Did the fish tell you this?
And how about the recycling?
Fish don't need our help lol
The homeless don’t need to be addicts… but there it is.
They àlso used to dump millions of tons of garbage out there too
and medical waste which had payed extra to be disposed of properly
Fantastic recycling project here 😮
Except they actually do that
@@Bloor25
This isnt recycling. Its dumping garbage into the ocean. The same crap they are always complaining about when they want to raise taxes on us normal people.
Recycle them!
Thats inexpensive way to make coral reefs that nature needs
Many of those subway cars had polished stainless steel panels on the exterior. With all the steel, aluminum & stainless used to construct those cars, there had to be a substantial amount of money dumped into the ocean. I'm surprised they weren't put out on bid to be recycled.
They do that now
Nobody asked my permission to dump these in the ocean......AND I WOULDN'T HAVE GIVEN IT
I have more respect for my garbage disposal than NYC has for ocean. Been dumping garbage for decades. Cleanest thing they dumped.
That would make to much sense something politician’s have none of. But we keep sending one idiot after another into office.
Like AOC?
When the western hemisphere does these acts its creation of artificial reefs but when the rest of the world does this it'll be called water pollution 🤣🤣🤣
They only use metal.....they aren't sh|thing in the water. The carts are stripped out of plastics and other damaging stuff, and only metal ends up being thrown in the water. Multiple organisms feed on metal, and multiple marine animals feed on those organisms....and you got the point.
@@TyTy-gm8ybUSA thrown millions of tyres into the ocean which destroyed local Marine ecosystem
@@TyTy-gm8yb
- *"The carts are stripped out of plastics and other damaging stuff, and only metal ends up being thrown in the water."*
That seems like a cover excuse considering all the ships that sunk and were never salvaged of their "dangerous" material, and then nothing bad happened.
Besides, this is the government we are talking about. We dont actually know if all harmful materials were fully removed. Just because they say they did doesnt mean they actually did it.
So this is why the oceans are rising! 😅
Got it! Any trash I dont want just toss it in the water and call it a reef. Recycling is just too expensive these days!
If you gave Climate Active a ton of gold in small coins they would complain that it is too heavy and may cause damage when moving it!
Ungrateful bast hards
A bit of "positive" messaging. The most colorful pictures were from natural reefs. The waist of material is staggering, while extracting fresh ore is one of the more polluting human activities. I think somebody made a handsome profit for not having to recycle the garbage.
I agree.
As a young kid I watched nature shows of beautiful colorful reefs on low-definition TV. Now as an adult I watch dull grey dead looking reefs on Hi-definition TV. The reefs used to look so colorful the sea creatures blended in with the reefs. Now they stick out like a sore thumb. I was born in the mid 80's. We should live for the future and not dwell in the past. But always live every day like it's our last. Along the way respect yourself, respect others, and take care of nature. Nature is what allows us to exist.
Why are they not scrapping them out at the metal recycling industry?? Millions just thrown away.... another great move by the Politicians 😔 and we the taxpayers, cover the costs...
Wow- seem like they might be doing some good, but I also see alot of bad. This is very interesting.
Huge HUGE!!!! Waste of steel. They could have gotten away with only 1/2 those cars to be used as a reef.
Come on guys,why cant u offer dem to other countries in need so dat det culd use it for deir people!??
In the Democratic republik of congo,we need dose cars so dat we culd assist our people please!
Come on guys. Why can't you offer them to other countries in need? We could use them for their people. In the Democratic Republic of Congo. We need those cars so we can assist our people. Please!
Dump 2,500 subway cars and then complain about no way to house homeless. The Democratic mind in action.
What about polluting the ocean..I'm shore they could have been melted down and reused. A s far as the homeless, NYC has many abandoned buildings..Why not put homeless in them?
The homeless problem in America is a cash cow for the democrats. Bureaucracy is the machine that lines the pockets of the left. The homeless issue on the “left coast” is just amazing, the Mayor of the City of Los Angeles had $67,000,000.00 put into a homeless program the the Mayor said would help house 95% of all the homeless yet only 0.5% have taken that opportunity. The State of California had a similar program several years ago with $270,000,000.00 to help the problem. Less than 3.0% have taken advantage of this program. Liberals think that throwing hundreds of millions of tax payer dollars at the homeless problem will fix it. They don’t live in reality. I was a school police officer for over 20 years in SoCal and have had hundreds of contacts with homeless folks. 90-95% of the homeless I personally contacted had significant mental health issues or simply wanted to live on the street. I know there will be “nay sayers” after this post but do yourself a favor, go on a ride-along with your local law enforcement agency of other outreach agency and see for yourself. My two cents.
Yeah because it’s the democrats who won’t build homes for people 🙄
Just admit you want everyone without a job to be in prison
Has a cost-benefit analysis been done? What is the cost of the “disposal” plus the lost revenue of recycling the steel?
It's cool to see scrap metal being recycled into reefs and corals that we need!
You know it's cheaper, more convenient & morally correct to simply convert them to makeshift houses for the homeless, right?
No, it is not.
The homeless will use it as a drug den
I mean they will be smoking crack regardless 😂😂😂
@@gerrylee1687 who cares? You’re not their dad, why do you insist on taking responsibility for their happiness instead of just getting them out of the way?
You’re making *my* life worse by not helping homeless people, because *I* am the one they ask for money
Tire reefs were a debacle ☹️
The rubber decomposed before being sealed in calcites. The stainless will not decompose into organic toxins.
Other recycle reuse ideas are good - but, I dove into similar artificial reefs, that after being put in place, produced a new nursery of millions of fish and animals that would have never existed. The problems, as this 30 years long diving instructor saw, was so obvious.
After doing calcs for diving parameters over that time, there was a 1.4 degree higher ocean temperature that turned the hundreds of years old corals into a cemetery-looking field of headstones. - - - But did put a new creepier spin on night diving. You might (will) bump into anything...
New, maybe different types of coral growth were necessary.
A flat sandy bottom desert became a fish factory and water filter. Food fish were saved from being fished to non-existence.
There are certainly enough recycle materials that we could do both and we will never run out.
I realize that people latch onto facts that back up their own particular spins - but those facts seldom take into consideration all angles of reality.
I have seldom seen anything that was ALL good or ALL bad...
There is an all most ENDLESS LIST of Good Point ' s , and Bad Point ' s BUT they are Trying so Thank You ;
Migrant shelters?
Instead of being sunk in the ocean , they can recycle the metal for making other things
Here's the amazing thing about this is that when boaters dumped their trash overboard, they are hunted down fined, and sometimes jail. But when the city wants to dump their trash like this it is somehow glamourized.
Waste of tax dollars. Do not ask for more dollars MTA when you are dumping it into the ocean.
Very interesting.
On a related question, can plastic, if re-processed and remodeled correctly, be used as artificial reef?
They belonged to the taxpayers who bought them!
Tax also useful for coral reefs
Tax payers deserve coral reefs for nature
@@tonyfalcon8041What are you talking about? "Tax also useful for coral reefs" 🤣what corals did you see in this video? This is not Florida...no corals here buddy...it's the same as when America threw millions of tires into the ocean to help marine fauna and instead killed everything 😂🤣in this case, they "stole" some money and someone was paid very well to replace those 2500 subway cars and of course no one is against it when it comes to eco stuff...nothing bad here 🤣we are burning your money for the reefs
@@mrmrmrcaf7801 the comment said they belong to tax payers, the containers, so is it not worth to give back to the ocean for reefs? Using wrecks
So all this bullsh_t about recycling is just bullsh_t.
@ Melissa
Don't forget to recycle or else the city will go through your trash bin and issue you a ticket.
@@EASTCOASTIMPERIAL here they literally just give you a second trash can, you’re either full of it or voting to cut taxes for your own trash pickup every year
I’ve fished over the top of the subway cars in the Raritain Bay. It’s a preferred spot for many charter boats also.
It's a larger and smaller scale version of sinking navy vessels to create reef and diving attractions. The challenge is stripping all the contaminant materials.
The fish in the sea will happily make a home of them and just as happily multiply because of them.
One of the most preposterous things I’ve ever heard
9,000 tons of tires in the ocean is not environmentally friendly.
Great... they tried also with tires but that sure polluted the ocean for the last 20 years. I agree with some, time to invest in recycling. We can build'em but we can't get rid of them.
Housing for the homeless???? Dont you just want to scream!!!!!! ARGGGH.
The EPA is going to fine The city of New York and also the state of New York
no they aren’t?
Big deal it's to late and the taxpayer will pay any fine .
Coral reefs typically occur between 30 degrees north and 30 degrees south latitudes. This reef building project latitude start and end points are to far north and the water is a little to cold for coral reefs to form.
I think the ocean life had it fine before you dump trash in the water.
8:19
..what climate change..? - you swallowed a big fish there chap..! Good video❤!
This is unacceptable !
Unacceptable? It's beyond criminal. We have a flourishing heritage steam railway system here in the UK thanks to Dai Woodham who, rather than cut the engines up for scrap, sold them to interested groups for restoration. He would be turning in his grave over this. As for repurposing for the homeless. I can't think of a better solution.
I was as angry as hell about this, 20 years ago.Because of this, I still know that this cars were full of Asbestos and drop it in the ocean was a cheap solution.
They should have to pay $10,000 for each car they dumped in the ocean
I am 1:30 in, and this is already riddled with errors.
There is indeed subway service on Staten Island, even if it’s not connected to the main system.
It’s also not owned or operated by the city. The MTA is a state organization.
Das Meer ist kein Abfalleimer.
Lasst das in ruhe .
Freaking awesome polluted
Welp I see nobody remembers the millions of tires they drop in Florida. For a coral reef. destroyed the eco system. tires washed ashore. This is awful .
Shows how wasteful government really is. They could be converted into something else useful. Why scrap them why not rebuild the motor
Well that just typical of USA..no recycling...
Whoever agreed to put them in the ocean should be put in jail.
No wonder the sea level is rising, the way NY has been dumping barges of garbage and tires and subways. I'm sure they are not the only ones dumping in the ocean either!
Wow…humans 🤦🏽♂️
@Deji
So how'd we do?😎
Better than dumping used tires
It's not cheap to convert them to housing. They already do that with retired shipping containers, which are more conducive due to their standard square shape.
Squares are not strong shapes, arches are
Sad how these people think dumping their trash into the ocean is beneficial.
To make artificial reefs, special cement blocks are used, and this is simply a waste of resources, due to laziness in its proper disposal.
The nyc subway are turning them into ARTIFICIAL reefs for fish. This shows that they care about the environment and want to help, plus the cars have no plastic because they removed all of them. And a lot of you might say why couldn't they use them for a better use, that is because they have hundreds of subway cars and it cost too much money to fund a new project. I would like to thank this person for making such an awesome video and I was just making a comment like this to just be respectful and convey my side on this topic.
These fish have a better home than some folk.
Interesting to see at :35 an invasive Lion fish. I didn’t know they could live in such cold water. They’re common in Florida waters.
Shocking waste and pollution by NYC. Why didn’t they remove all seats, lubricants, fuels and glass from the 2580 cars and sell them to steel and aluminum mills in the the U.S,, Canada and Mexico?
Did you not watch the video? Check 4:55
If you can't be bothered watching the video, DO NOT COMMENT!!!!
Let's go green this has been New York's trash pit for years it's all about New York thank you Democrats LOL
Waste of Metal ? THINK AGAIN New Jersey's commercial saltwater fishing industry generated $9.2 billion in 2021
How about the rubber tire reef that was installed off Florida? It was a disaster and forced the removal of mountains of old tires for fear of polluting the entire Florida coastline.
Cant wait in 1000 years someone's going to find these and proclaim an underwater city was there
Remember when they dumped millions of tires in the ocean? How did that go...
The steel could better be used as recycled material. De-facing (polluting), the ocean floor is a bad idea, regardless of what the environmentalists insist. An ocean floor littered with garbage, is wrong.
The USA dumped hundreds of 55gal drums of DDT into the Pacific ocean and In that 8 sq. miles they also dumped hundreds of tons of military munitions.
and millions of tires 🤣
At the beginning of the video, it showed rail cars with their wheels still attached being dumped. Those wheels have bearings loaded with grease, they’re basically polluting the ocean.
The "grease" would very quickly breakdown and not be even the slightest problem . What about the hundreds and thousands of ships sunk in the 1st and 2nd world wars all over the world that contained huge quantities (millions of ton's ) of oils , grease , diesel , petrol , industrial chemicals of every variety under the sun , was there a long term environmental disaster anywhere because of this ? Not that I have knowledge of ! I think you are not appreciating the absolute gigantic volume of water that makes up the worlds oceans . Man's impression on it is puny and as the old saying goes " the solution to pollution is dilution " which describes exactly natures response!
@@dongraham4760 right, that’s what they say about fentanyl too
It’s not correct in either case but they do *say* it
All the authorities and the group if people who git involved this should prosecuted and go the jail for life sentences!!
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The Boston Tea Party but with Subways
Hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of scrap metal being dumped instead of sold.
I suppose this is 100% better than tires from years past that has to be recovered
The contractors that stripped the subway cars, moved them to designated locations, lifted fhem and dump them into them into the oceans made a ton of money.
Too bad all these cars couldn't be used to provide shelter to humans .......
Very good point
What a good way to disguise pollution of the ocean.
someone should charge NY - for polluting the ocean ....
Instead of giving it to the ocean floor.dry land could’ve used it. build little homes.for the homeless people’s
2:22 - that’s footage of the RER (regional subway) line A in Paris.