Cirie, known as the ultimate survivor loser, best-to-never win, the one who got off the couch. Made deep runs in almost all her survivor appearance. Finsihed 4th in Panama, Almost won in Micronesia, got screwed over in Game Changers. She even went on to compete on Big Brother and finished 5th. Im not surprised she would dominate the traitors, Im just surprised she won because she always has bad luck.
In Andrew's defence, he did try to make a move. He tried to work with Ross to get Harry out, but Ross went running to Harry instead and told him everything Andrew had said. When Harry called out Andrew about it at the round table, Andrew wisely denied it and played dumb claiming he would never say that because he doesn't know the meaning of the word he used (I forgot what the word was, but this exchange was hilarious). But then Ross (stupidly, IMO) got mad at Andrew for denying what he said - like seriously, what was he supposed to do? Did he honestly expect Andrew to just cave in and admit to Harry's face that he was secretly trying to get him banished? For this reason, I think you were way too generous in your ranking of Ross. He was a pretty terrible traitor, IMO. All your other rankings were spot on. I agreed with everything you said. Great video! 👍
Correct but really Ross didn’t have a chance. Harry really did cast a blinder waiting until he had got a shield then recruiting the most suspected player at the time. Ross was doomed the second he accepted being a traitor!
Marielle being ranked below Kate is crazy to me. Marielle should have easily been in the top 10. Let's not forget she didn't have any previous English versions to watch. She dominated from 24 up until final 8 and would have probably easily won, if not for that 1 mistake. On the other hand, Kate made horrible decisions and completely tanked her own game from the moment she became a traitor.
The worst trator is probably Moniko from polish edition - she was stressed and exposing herself all day long, she didn't stand up for herself, bad strategy and social game and she got banished during the very first roundtable. When she straight up admitted that she is a traitor
Great ranking! Well explained why you put people above or below others. Personally, I’d put Alex (Aus1) in my top 3 because she played it absolutely brilliantly from the moment she was recruited. And per your own criteria, you were only looking at how they played when they were a traitor. I also give her a bonus point for being the first one to ever do it! I feel like I watched a video of Camille explaining why she played the way that she did but whoops I don’t fully remember her reasoning. It was something about it being more of a guarantee to make the end I believe, and having zero faith in the faithfuls (especially Sarah lol) to turn against both Sam and Blake.
Alex is the one person I can absolutely be convinced to be higher on the list. I see the game and I see how she adapts to anything that comes her way and it’s basically a flawless game, from a position where all the cards are stacked against you. In the end she ranked at 5 which is amazing but I fully get why some people think she should be highrr
@@iambeanssI definitely think she should be higher considering the fact that the one main downside to her game wasn't even a mistake she made. I also think that the fact that she was on the first English speaking only adds to her game because there was no blueprint to how to play the game
Oh wow… I would honestly put Alex at first tbh like she actively did sooo much and was so cutthroat AND had that number one ally who trusted her completely till the end
I liked Alex but….was it legendary game playing or cleverly working her way through some pretty good cards dealt her way. -Marielle massively messed up with the tale about Fee to Kate. All Alex had to do was nod along whilst Kate and Theresa played the blinder. -Nigel messed up not voting for Marielle at the round table and when it came to his turn to be doubted Alex didn’t need to give that much of a push. -Alex HAD to recruit the traitor at the last minute and picked Kate who was by far the best and didn’t really have any time to switch it up. Had Kate got to stay being a Faithful and survivors death row I think she would have been a big challenge for Alex. -At the last round table most of the eyes were already on Kate and Lewis again Alex just needed to play along. Zero shade to Alex, she was dealt a good hand and took it and she rose to the challenge switching from a faithful to a traitor. Plus she gets kudos for keeping Craig so close to the very end. She’s a great traitor….but the best?
@@owaindavies9457 Yes I think so, Marielle and Nigel was also dealt a good set of cards in that the faithful naturally turned on each other, but they both made fatal mistakes that led to their own downfalls. Alex had a perfect strategy for every situation thrown at her, if she wasn’t an amazing traitor she’d have slipped up like the other two did. I’m surprised Marielle wasn’t found out sooner tbh, as no one gave more thought to when she accidentally gave away that there are 4 traitors at the start of the game.
I think my hottest take is that Blake was a better traitor than Sam was. From the get-go his social game was excellent and he was detected by significantly less faithfuls (I believe only Luke, Annabelle and Gloria) whereas the whole season was based on Sam banishing and murdering people who were suspicious of him - which was a lot of people! Sam had no subtelty to his game and he wouldn't have got anywhere near as far with an even slightly smarter group of faithfuls. Blake was constantly trying to assess whether or not people were going to turn on Sam, because he knew it could blow up in his face if it went wrong. He was adamantly against recruiting another traitor, and lo and behold, the recruitment of another traitor is exactly what screwed him and Sam over at the end. In the traitor's tower he demonstrated a lot of game savvy and did his best to make moves that would actively benefit his game as well as the traitors overall, such as not wanting to murder Luke so they can throw him under the bus the next round. He was stuck with some of the worst faithfuls ever, and the worst traitors to get PAIRED with, and made the best out of the situation he had. The season almost fit the structure of a Shakespearean tragedy, with Sam as the tragic hero who doomed himself because of his own mistake and lack of foresight. Curious to see what other people think about this analysis though!
Great list, appreciate the Wilfred love. I think he understood how to play the game so well in a season where nobody really knew much about the game yet. He played perfectly flipping on Alyssa at the perfect time to earn trust with everyone and took 3 loyal soldiers to the end who wouldn’t have had a clue if not for Keiran’s bitterness (which he couldn’t have anticipated) his worst play was probably his ultimatum to Hannah i think he crumbled at the very last hurdle. Harry i think pretty much modelled his game on Wilf’s but was a lot better with the pressure when accused at the very end
I think Sam is one of the worst traitors of all time and it has nothing to do with people hating him. On the contrary, he is getting away with being a horrible traitor bcs he can just say "I wasn't a bad traitor, people just hate me". Which is not the case at all. His game plan was so fundamentally wrong that he is the only player in this entire list that had 0 chance of winning any money. The game theory solution for the traitors dilemma is very simple, you take the money, in every single case. But just like you, other traitors will take the money as well and you will earn nothing. So you start to work backwards, to make sure you are not at the end with any other traitors, since the solution suggests you cannot win any money if you go to end with traitors. The reality is his game was so fundamentally wrong that I can't even put him at top 25. He had 0 chance of winning. He got caught so many times and expose other traitors so many times but he is getting away with it bcs the hate he got covers the fact that he was a horrible traitor.
(SPOILERS for every english-speaking season) Before watching your rankings, my top3 is undoubtedly Cirie (US1), Harry (UK2) and Alex (AU1), in this order. Put Magic Mike (Can1) in there too as the #4, since he's the only other traitor winner in the english-speaking seasons.
I guess it’s a hot take but I put Wilf above Harry. Wilf only lost because of the parting gift and played so well through the rest of the game. Harry however seemed to make it too obvious that he knew every detail like Sam in AU2. Also I think his shield play was very flawed because as soon as Jasmine was voted out, Evie should’ve realised that all the people who didn’t know were faithful meaning it’s likely Harry was a traitor. I would still put Harry just under Wilf and I’m not saying Harry was an awful traitor, just imo he wasn’t as good as Wilf.
Here's what my list looks like having seen NZ, US, UK, & AUS: 1. Cirie- IMO Cirie should be studied by everyone on how to play the traitors role, easily the most dominant game ever played in the franchise's history as every single thing she did in the game was perfect. 2. Harry- u could easily make a strong argument for him at 1 as his game rivals Cirie, his weak spot was Jaz clocking him, outside of that Harry convinced the entire cast that he was a 100% faithful. 3. Alex-IMO Alex played by far the most cutthroat game of Traitors ever. Not only was she in on the Marielle blindside but even told Marielle she was safe that roundtable & not to worry. She subtlety got everyone to target Nigel without anyone noticing she was pushing it. She actively gaslighted Craig & emotionally manipulated him with her tears. The only thing that holds her back is that she was a recruit & we didn't get to see her play a full game compared to the top 2. Still the greatest recruit ever. 4. Wilf- even tho Wilf does overdo it at times there's no denying his impressive gameplay. Surviving the Alyssa vote out was really impressive on his part & got 2 of his biggest doubters on Amos & Kieran on his side. His mistake was not taking Kieran to the Fire of Truth where Kieran wouldn't have that chance to turn on him. 5. Brooke- Brooke is top 5 for me due to the fact that he had to deal with the best faithful cast I've seen. He had such a strong gmae & was easily the driving force of his season for traitors. 6. Amanda- had it not been for the Theo vote Amanda had a clear path to the endgame. I really think a large part of why Wilf was so great was that he had someone like Amanda working with him as I think he would struggle without a presence like Amanda working with him. 7. Nigel- I am fully captured by the Nigel mist but he has to have a top 3 social game for Traitors of what I saw. I think Nigel held himself back by not voting out Marielle as that was the nail in the coffin for him. No one even thought about him being a traitor until Alex threw it out & spread it like wildfire & even then he only went out due to the worst person possible for him ending up winning the shield. 8. Phaedra- boy can no one handle themselves at the roundtable like Phaedra. While she didn't have the strategic mind u deny her great social game as well as strong positioning was some of the best in the game. 9. Marielle- Marielle did a great spot at the social aspect as she had an amazing divide & conquer strategy getting most of the faithfuls to turn on each. IMO she is still low due to how many people clocked her like Mark, Mindy, & Chloe. 10. Sam-while Sam is top 10 he is easily the most overrated as well. He played with the dumbest group of faithfuls ever assembled as if u swap him & Brooke Brooke would easily do even better while Sam would easily be an early banishment. He decided to go into the endgame with TWO other traitors instead of making it possible where he could get at least one of them out. He shouldn't be considered as a dominant player more than his cast veing a bunch of idiots as most traitors get a win with his group of faithfuls.
Now that the second season of New Zealand is out, Bailey is definitely in my top 5, if not top 3! I think her and Alex are my favourite traitors of all time so far.
I have a list of my own that I'm making as I'm going through the series. I only have NZ and CA left to watch; I'll come back and watch this after I'm done to see how the lists compare :)
I'm only at #32 but I laughed at the reveal of who was being described. angus is everything I found irritating about paul from uk series two but turned up to eleven and with less strategy
Why is Kieran the sore loser? Wilf tried to get him and Kieran tried to get Wilf, what is the issue? Wilf messed it up by saying something like "you're not my friend if you vote for me". He completely freaked out, he did not deserve a win.
I liked you ranking! They made me reevaluate Wilf's and Robbie's games and give them a little more credit. Still wouldn't put Wilf above Alex, but I get the reasoning.
I'm backing Kieran. Firstly, he was a generally good player, especially by UK season 1 standards. Strong as a faithful and perceptive as a traitor. Secondly, we look at all the ways these other traitors dug their own grave. How about Wilf? Whose entire gameplan involved emotional manipulation and sacrificing other traitors - often before it was necessary to do so. Factor in that he didn't have a Mollie (see Harry), or an Andy (see Cirie), or a Craig (see Alex) who would blindly back him no matter what. He put Kieran in a lose-lose situation, who then had to sit there feeling like shit all day knowing that Wilf had done him dirty. Wilf expected him to be a good boy and take it lying down. The pair very easily could have won together, but Wilf got greedy (or at least assumed Kieran would do exactly what he had done the entire game - stab him in the back). If your game plan is built around such an aggressive strategy, you better be prepared for the heat that comes with it (heat Amanda claimed she would bring, but failed to do so). Thirdly, he did not break any rules. Plenty of traitors have highlighted another traitor on their way out. For example, Miles voted Paul in the very next season, and it was used in the case against him. There was the 'wink' in NZ 1. In the most recent NZ season, a certain faithful essentially outed a traitor as they attempted to recruit them (kept vague for spoiler reasons). The main issue was actually that Kieran had to reveal his role, a flaw with the game that's been fixed in later seasons. If there was more doubt, then Wilf might well have gotten by. Was Kieran petty and emotional? Yes. However, I think he did exactly what I would have done in his position as Wilf created an environment whereby it was the only option left to him. Wilf made his own bed.
Honestly, the second he showed up on TV I thought he was a tool and he had no shot. I think he did as well as he could have but I don't think he's a good player. He got lucky coming into the season like halfway through. And he definitely broke the rules, he didn't even defend himself, dude was not playing the game. But the thing about the show, is that the good faithfuls don't make it to the end by design.
Honestly I don't think Kieran was awful but I do think him killing Andrea and agreeing to it was awful when Maddy and Andrea were the only two people who trusted him... that's the only reason I truly don't rate him super high.
@@princessbubbles9222 that's fair. You're right that he also made key mistakes, though I don't hold the UK season 1 cast to the same standard as other seasons of The Traitors. There isn't much logical "play" across the board as no one competing understood the game's meta as people do now. I didn't enjoy how Wilf played the game, but to his credit, he did work out how to play Traitors better than most, including Kieran.
When you say ''the franchises history'', do you only mean the english speaking countries? Because I would say Katia in season 1 of the Swedish version is equally as good as the number 1 you described on this list, if not better.
Kate was fun TV. That does not make a good traitor. Camille, I think, revealed she tried to get Blake to turn against Sam, but they never aired it. Blake was going with Sam all the way, and she realized screwing them both over was the only option.
You didn't put polish and german Traitors 🤦🏻♂️ + Complaining about Kieran throwing Will under the bus while Will was doing this as well but by Will doing that saying it's okay - DOUBLE STANDARDS 😆🤣🤣
Without rewatching the seasons and without thinking too much about it, my ranking would probably be something like: 38 Loryn (NZ1) 37 Robbie (NZ1) 36 Mickey (Can1) 35 Mel B (Can1) 34 Ross (UK2) 33 Ash (UK2) 32 Ash (AU2) 31 Matt (NZ1) 30 Miles (UK2) 29 Angus (AU1) 28 Dan (US2) 27 Alyssa (UK1) 26 Claire (AU1) 25 Cody (US1) 24 Kate (US2) 23 Colin (NZ1) 22 Arie (US1) 21 Christian (US1) 20 Nigel (AU1) 19 Parvati (US2) 18 Marielle (AU1) 17 Paul (UK2) 16 Dan (NZ1) 15 Andrew (UK2) 14 Kuzie (Can1) 13 Kieran (UK1) 12 Camille (AU2) 11 Phaedra (US2) 10 Amanda (UK1) 09 Brooke (NZ1) 08 Blake (AU2) 07 Sam (I LOATHE him, but still) (AU2) 06 Kate (AU1) 05 Wilf (UK1) 04 Magic Mike (Can1) 03 Alex (AU1) 02 Harry (UK2) 01 Cirie (US1)
I definitely think Alyssa was underrated and I do think Amanda is slightly overrated her getting rid of Alyssa over Wilf was AWFUL for her game and her getting rid of Theo / Fay really messed up her position and how people saw her. I do see Marielle and Amanda as very similar players but I do think Marielle's mistake was not as bad as Amanda's. Also Andrew did want to banish Harry at 5 but Evie and Jaz wouldn't do it.
Love this video and can’t wait to see all your other traitors content!! My ranking of the traitors would be 1. Harry (UK2) 🇬🇧 2. Cirie (US1) 🇺🇸 3. Alex (AUS1) 🇦🇺 4. Mike (CAN1) 🇨🇦 5. Wilf (UK1) 🇬🇧 6. Brooke (NZ1) 🇳🇿 7. Sam (AU2) 🇦🇺 8. Dan (NZ1) 🇳🇿 9. Paul (UK2) 🇬🇧 10. Phaedra (US2) 🇺🇸 11. Blake (AUS2) 🇦🇺 12. Amanda (UK1) 🇬🇧 13. Kate (AUS1) 🇦🇺 14. Andrew (UK2) 🇬🇧 15. Marielle (AUS1) 🇦🇺 16. Parvati (US2) 🇺🇸 17. Kuzie (CAN1) 🇨🇦 18. Colin (NZ1) 🇳🇿 19. Nigel (AUS1) 🇦🇺 20. Christian (US1) 🇺🇸 21. Miles (UK2) 🇬🇧 22. Camille (AUS2) 🇦🇺 23. Dan (US2) 🇺🇸 24. Alyssa (UK1) 🇬🇧 25. Arie (US1) 🇺🇸 26. Kate (US2) 27. Cody (US1) 🇺🇸 28. Matt (NZ1) 🇳🇿 29. Claire (AUS1) 🇦🇺 30. Angus (AUS1 🇦🇺 31. Ash (UK2) 🇬🇧 32. Ash (AUS2) 🇦🇺 33. Ross (UK2) 🇬🇧 34. Melissa B (CAN1) 🇨🇦 35. Kieran (UK1) 🇬🇧 36. Mickey (CAN1) 🇨🇦 37. Robbie (NZ1) 🇳🇿 38. Loryn (NZ1) 🇳🇿 But it can honestly change after a rewatch. I can only assume traitors in the future who have these traitors as reference are only going to perform stronger both strategically and socially. I honestly think only Harry and Cirie have had a masterful game but even tho many of their games are flawed, the vast majority of traitors at least play an entertaining game 😂
A huge part of me doesnt want to discredit Harry for his overlooking of Jaz, because in my opinion Jaz might be in contention for the best Faithful game of all time, since hes one of the few who made an active (almost successful) plan to win. Ironically Jaz recognised one vital thing. The Faithfuls (much like the Traitors) aren't really a team and chose to play of himself. Ironically, he executed the same endgame plan as Harry and almost beat him.
Sam should be much lower because he actually sucked. It it wasn't for alot of the cast having legitimate learning difficulties then he would have been kicked out ASAP. Saying his early backstab on ash being a good play is wrong, way too early to back stab and makes him look suspicious every time he survives murders. Sam was one of the most liable traitors ever but due to the cast being so bad he was able to survive to the end
@hazbro2033 I would have to go back and check to get you the exact episode and time stamp. But it was when mike and gurlene were talking to one another one on one. Mike said something about how suzie would be coming after "you guys". He basically says one of you guys is getting murdered by Susie. Mike did not include himself in the list of potential victims because he was not eligible to be a potential victim because he is a traitor. This is a common mistake where people don't include themselves.
Spoiler (if someone care about non english tratiors i guess 🤣) for traitors (förädarna), swedish version. Katja was a traitor from the start and she played everyone! And i mean EVERYONE - best friends, fellow traitors, everyone! Down to the finally.. No one got close! I have watched different versions, have yet to see her beat by anyone else.. 😂 If you can find any of it with subtitles, please watch it!
I would put Mike above Harry. In both finales there were similar situations: 2 strong friendships, 1 traitor, 3 players. Harry had the easier way out here as he was in the good friendship but Mike had the struggle of breaking it and making them betray each other. To me this makes Mike better. I would even go as far to say wilf was better than Harry. I give merit to Harry’s shield play for the simple fact of Ross’ recruit only. I think it is very overrated and had too much risks. Evie should’ve seen that it was not true after Jasmine was faithful. Additionally Wilf’s good friend in the game was Hannah who was less trusting than Molly. If they were swapped im sure Harry would’ve lost and Wilf would’ve won.
IDK about Cerie? I don't think she had to work as hard as Harry. The people in her season didn't really have as much game as UK S2. Cerie in my opinion was much like Amanda but didn't make a huge blunder.
it seems she didn't do much because she did so well being under the radar and her game was flawless, people came to her defense when one of the fauthfuls accused her even making the faithful apologize, she did a good job knowing what was going on with all faithfuls and knowing when and who to defend/betray and pairing herself with the most likeable player, Harry overplayed his hand by betraying the traitors and keeping the limelight on himself, he got lucky no one ever suspected that
I've only watched the Aus seasons but I can agree on most of them lol (help I wrote my opinions down below for no reason) Ash got fucked over indeed. Yeah, Angus ruined his game. I can't believe Claire got fucked over for literally no reason imo I thought Jack had just made a joke but Olivia took it the wrong way and caused this whole drama that got Jack and Olivia both eliminated. I agree with Camille she had a lot of leverage and if she used her power she could've basically controlled the game. Nigel's social game was good but it was starting to crack around the end like him rushing for the immunity was pretty sus but you can pass it off. Marielle shows that one bad move can ruin your game and uh one bad move ruined her game. Kate got recruited late and did the best she could, she fumbled the bag a little bit and didn't end up winning. Blake kinda just went through the game his strategy certainly worked but he should've voted out Sam near or during the end game especially at the final 5 where he could've had majority and easily gotten Sam eliminated because there was a lot of evidence against him I have no idea how Sam even made it to the late game I'm pretty young and even I could tell his game was pretty bad it's just that he manipulated, banished and killed the right people. Alex played her game really well her behaviour didn't change at all and she planted the right seeds and ended up winning props to her.
Where are the over 20 European Seasons Traitors? Many of whom are Superior. As a true fan, who has watched every International Season - including the OG - De Verraders (Dutch), Hungary (Best possible franchise - 3 Seasons, soon 4), Russia (bizarre), Swiss, Czech Republic (Nicole is my worldwide #1 Traitor), Finland (where a brilliant Traitor was murdered for real, Post Season) France (Eric is the best Host!) and so many more. Do Better. 😂❤
Paul from season 2 UK is way overated. He is one of the most entertaining traitors to ever player, but extremely reckless. He had amazing ideas but was too eager recognition of his plan and powe. was his deal with confronting Jaz about the info Harry gave him. He was a far more active player than Milea , but far worse socially.
The reason cirie should be higher than harry is that cirie came in with the target as one of the greatest survivor players of all time while harry came in a random guy
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Cirie’s run is the reason why (imo)US only gets tv personalities to play the game now 😂😅
Felt so bad for the faithfuls left. She gagged them
All of Australian Facebook collectively hating Sam as the season was airing was absolutely hysterical to me. Thats why I find him so memorable
This is so real lmaooo
The faithfulls were idiots that season. Any other season in any other franchise he would have been voted out quickly.
Cirie, known as the ultimate survivor loser, best-to-never win, the one who got off the couch. Made deep runs in almost all her survivor appearance. Finsihed 4th in Panama, Almost won in Micronesia, got screwed over in Game Changers. She even went on to compete on Big Brother and finished 5th. Im not surprised she would dominate the traitors, Im just surprised she won because she always has bad luck.
In Andrew's defence, he did try to make a move. He tried to work with Ross to get Harry out, but Ross went running to Harry instead and told him everything Andrew had said. When Harry called out Andrew about it at the round table, Andrew wisely denied it and played dumb claiming he would never say that because he doesn't know the meaning of the word he used (I forgot what the word was, but this exchange was hilarious). But then Ross (stupidly, IMO) got mad at Andrew for denying what he said - like seriously, what was he supposed to do? Did he honestly expect Andrew to just cave in and admit to Harry's face that he was secretly trying to get him banished? For this reason, I think you were way too generous in your ranking of Ross. He was a pretty terrible traitor, IMO. All your other rankings were spot on. I agreed with everything you said. Great video! 👍
Correct but really Ross didn’t have a chance. Harry really did cast a blinder waiting until he had got a shield then recruiting the most suspected player at the time. Ross was doomed the second he accepted being a traitor!
Only Polish Traitors watchers know about the worst traitor in franchise's history
Yeah Monika is the worst traitor in The Traitors franchise history
Marielle being ranked below Kate is crazy to me. Marielle should have easily been in the top 10. Let's not forget she didn't have any previous English versions to watch. She dominated from 24 up until final 8 and would have probably easily won, if not for that 1 mistake.
On the other hand, Kate made horrible decisions and completely tanked her own game from the moment she became a traitor.
The worst trator is probably Moniko from polish edition - she was stressed and exposing herself all day long, she didn't stand up for herself, bad strategy and social game and she got banished during the very first roundtable. When she straight up admitted that she is a traitor
see to me this sounds messy and terrible. So this makes her iconic imo😅
and she even voted for herself😂
She’s objectively the greatest traitor of all time
Great ranking! Well explained why you put people above or below others. Personally, I’d put Alex (Aus1) in my top 3 because she played it absolutely brilliantly from the moment she was recruited. And per your own criteria, you were only looking at how they played when they were a traitor. I also give her a bonus point for being the first one to ever do it!
I feel like I watched a video of Camille explaining why she played the way that she did but whoops I don’t fully remember her reasoning. It was something about it being more of a guarantee to make the end I believe, and having zero faith in the faithfuls (especially Sarah lol) to turn against both Sam and Blake.
Alex is the one person I can absolutely be convinced to be higher on the list. I see the game and I see how she adapts to anything that comes her way and it’s basically a flawless game, from a position where all the cards are stacked against you. In the end she ranked at 5 which is amazing but I fully get why some people think she should be highrr
@@iambeanssI definitely think she should be higher considering the fact that the one main downside to her game wasn't even a mistake she made. I also think that the fact that she was on the first English speaking only adds to her game because there was no blueprint to how to play the game
Oh wow… I would honestly put Alex at first tbh like she actively did sooo much and was so cutthroat AND had that number one ally who trusted her completely till the end
I came here to say this. Alex was without doubt the best traitor, had the perfect game plan and never put a foot wrong!
I liked Alex but….was it legendary game playing or cleverly working her way through some pretty good cards dealt her way.
-Marielle massively messed up with the tale about Fee to Kate. All Alex had to do was nod along whilst Kate and Theresa played the blinder.
-Nigel messed up not voting for Marielle at the round table and when it came to his turn to be doubted Alex didn’t need to give that much of a push.
-Alex HAD to recruit the traitor at the last minute and picked Kate who was by far the best and didn’t really have any time to switch it up. Had Kate got to stay being a Faithful and survivors death row I think she would have been a big challenge for Alex.
-At the last round table most of the eyes were already on Kate and Lewis again Alex just needed to play along.
Zero shade to Alex, she was dealt a good hand and took it and she rose to the challenge switching from a faithful to a traitor. Plus she gets kudos for keeping Craig so close to the very end.
She’s a great traitor….but the best?
@@owaindavies9457 Yes I think so, Marielle and Nigel was also dealt a good set of cards in that the faithful naturally turned on each other, but they both made fatal mistakes that led to their own downfalls. Alex had a perfect strategy for every situation thrown at her, if she wasn’t an amazing traitor she’d have slipped up like the other two did. I’m surprised Marielle wasn’t found out sooner tbh, as no one gave more thought to when she accidentally gave away that there are 4 traitors at the start of the game.
I think my hottest take is that Blake was a better traitor than Sam was. From the get-go his social game was excellent and he was detected by significantly less faithfuls (I believe only Luke, Annabelle and Gloria) whereas the whole season was based on Sam banishing and murdering people who were suspicious of him - which was a lot of people! Sam had no subtelty to his game and he wouldn't have got anywhere near as far with an even slightly smarter group of faithfuls. Blake was constantly trying to assess whether or not people were going to turn on Sam, because he knew it could blow up in his face if it went wrong. He was adamantly against recruiting another traitor, and lo and behold, the recruitment of another traitor is exactly what screwed him and Sam over at the end. In the traitor's tower he demonstrated a lot of game savvy and did his best to make moves that would actively benefit his game as well as the traitors overall, such as not wanting to murder Luke so they can throw him under the bus the next round. He was stuck with some of the worst faithfuls ever, and the worst traitors to get PAIRED with, and made the best out of the situation he had. The season almost fit the structure of a Shakespearean tragedy, with Sam as the tragic hero who doomed himself because of his own mistake and lack of foresight.
Curious to see what other people think about this analysis though!
Was I the only one who felt really sorry for Liam?
Great list, appreciate the Wilfred love. I think he understood how to play the game so well in a season where nobody really knew much about the game yet. He played perfectly flipping on Alyssa at the perfect time to earn trust with everyone and took 3 loyal soldiers to the end who wouldn’t have had a clue if not for Keiran’s bitterness (which he couldn’t have anticipated) his worst play was probably his ultimatum to Hannah i think he crumbled at the very last hurdle. Harry i think pretty much modelled his game on Wilf’s but was a lot better with the pressure when accused at the very end
I think Sam is one of the worst traitors of all time and it has nothing to do with people hating him. On the contrary, he is getting away with being a horrible traitor bcs he can just say "I wasn't a bad traitor, people just hate me". Which is not the case at all.
His game plan was so fundamentally wrong that he is the only player in this entire list that had 0 chance of winning any money.
The game theory solution for the traitors dilemma is very simple, you take the money, in every single case. But just like you, other traitors will take the money as well and you will earn nothing. So you start to work backwards, to make sure you are not at the end with any other traitors, since the solution suggests you cannot win any money if you go to end with traitors.
The reality is his game was so fundamentally wrong that I can't even put him at top 25. He had 0 chance of winning. He got caught so many times and expose other traitors so many times but he is getting away with it bcs the hate he got covers the fact that he was a horrible traitor.
(SPOILERS for every english-speaking season)
Before watching your rankings, my top3 is undoubtedly Cirie (US1), Harry (UK2) and Alex (AU1), in this order. Put Magic Mike (Can1) in there too as the #4, since he's the only other traitor winner in the english-speaking seasons.
I guess it’s a hot take but I put Wilf above Harry. Wilf only lost because of the parting gift and played so well through the rest of the game. Harry however seemed to make it too obvious that he knew every detail like Sam in AU2. Also I think his shield play was very flawed because as soon as Jasmine was voted out, Evie should’ve realised that all the people who didn’t know were faithful meaning it’s likely Harry was a traitor. I would still put Harry just under Wilf and I’m not saying Harry was an awful traitor, just imo he wasn’t as good as Wilf.
Here's what my list looks like having seen NZ, US, UK, & AUS:
1. Cirie- IMO Cirie should be studied by everyone on how to play the traitors role, easily the most dominant game ever played in the franchise's history as every single thing she did in the game was perfect.
2. Harry- u could easily make a strong argument for him at 1 as his game rivals Cirie, his weak spot was Jaz clocking him, outside of that Harry convinced the entire cast that he was a 100% faithful.
3. Alex-IMO Alex played by far the most cutthroat game of Traitors ever. Not only was she in on the Marielle blindside but even told Marielle she was safe that roundtable & not to worry. She subtlety got everyone to target Nigel without anyone noticing she was pushing it. She actively gaslighted Craig & emotionally manipulated him with her tears. The only thing that holds her back is that she was a recruit & we didn't get to see her play a full game compared to the top 2. Still the greatest recruit ever.
4. Wilf- even tho Wilf does overdo it at times there's no denying his impressive gameplay. Surviving the Alyssa vote out was really impressive on his part & got 2 of his biggest doubters on Amos & Kieran on his side. His mistake was not taking Kieran to the Fire of Truth where Kieran wouldn't have that chance to turn on him.
5. Brooke- Brooke is top 5 for me due to the fact that he had to deal with the best faithful cast I've seen. He had such a strong gmae & was easily the driving force of his season for traitors.
6. Amanda- had it not been for the Theo vote Amanda had a clear path to the endgame. I really think a large part of why Wilf was so great was that he had someone like Amanda working with him as I think he would struggle without a presence like Amanda working with him.
7. Nigel- I am fully captured by the Nigel mist but he has to have a top 3 social game for Traitors of what I saw. I think Nigel held himself back by not voting out Marielle as that was the nail in the coffin for him. No one even thought about him being a traitor until Alex threw it out & spread it like wildfire & even then he only went out due to the worst person possible for him ending up winning the shield.
8. Phaedra- boy can no one handle themselves at the roundtable like Phaedra. While she didn't have the strategic mind u deny her great social game as well as strong positioning was some of the best in the game.
9. Marielle- Marielle did a great spot at the social aspect as she had an amazing divide & conquer strategy getting most of the faithfuls to turn on each. IMO she is still low due to how many people clocked her like Mark, Mindy, & Chloe.
10. Sam-while Sam is top 10 he is easily the most overrated as well. He played with the dumbest group of faithfuls ever assembled as if u swap him & Brooke Brooke would easily do even better while Sam would easily be an early banishment. He decided to go into the endgame with TWO other traitors instead of making it possible where he could get at least one of them out. He shouldn't be considered as a dominant player more than his cast veing a bunch of idiots as most traitors get a win with his group of faithfuls.
Harry was such a bad traitor ... he waa just lucky that there were so many gullible faithfuls in that season
Sam was so obvious as a traitor how is he so far up annabel clocked him in the first couple episodes same with Luke
Cant wait till a all stars traitor game comes out
Now that the second season of New Zealand is out, Bailey is definitely in my top 5, if not top 3! I think her and Alex are my favourite traitors of all time so far.
I have a list of my own that I'm making as I'm going through the series. I only have NZ and CA left to watch; I'll come back and watch this after I'm done to see how the lists compare :)
nz is so good!!!!
I'm only at #32 but I laughed at the reveal of who was being described. angus is everything I found irritating about paul from uk series two but turned up to eleven and with less strategy
Where would you rank the S2 Canadian winner?
I think they are definitely top 3. It’s hard to crack the top 2 but it’s a very impressive game
Why is Kieran the sore loser? Wilf tried to get him and Kieran tried to get Wilf, what is the issue? Wilf messed it up by saying something like "you're not my friend if you vote for me". He completely freaked out, he did not deserve a win.
1:23:26 man that final 3 was almost heartbreaking lol
I liked you ranking! They made me reevaluate Wilf's and Robbie's games and give them a little more credit. Still wouldn't put Wilf above Alex, but I get the reasoning.
Next we need a season ranking 🎉
Love to see the praise for Dan Sing! And really cool similarities between Mike and Brooke
this is a great vid and im ab 40 minutes in and loving it so far, but PLEASE explain why does ur roblox character look like that its so funny
I was looking forward to this video coming out. 😊
I'm backing Kieran.
Firstly, he was a generally good player, especially by UK season 1 standards. Strong as a faithful and perceptive as a traitor.
Secondly, we look at all the ways these other traitors dug their own grave. How about Wilf? Whose entire gameplan involved emotional manipulation and sacrificing other traitors - often before it was necessary to do so. Factor in that he didn't have a Mollie (see Harry), or an Andy (see Cirie), or a Craig (see Alex) who would blindly back him no matter what. He put Kieran in a lose-lose situation, who then had to sit there feeling like shit all day knowing that Wilf had done him dirty. Wilf expected him to be a good boy and take it lying down. The pair very easily could have won together, but Wilf got greedy (or at least assumed Kieran would do exactly what he had done the entire game - stab him in the back).
If your game plan is built around such an aggressive strategy, you better be prepared for the heat that comes with it (heat Amanda claimed she would bring, but failed to do so).
Thirdly, he did not break any rules. Plenty of traitors have highlighted another traitor on their way out. For example, Miles voted Paul in the very next season, and it was used in the case against him. There was the 'wink' in NZ 1. In the most recent NZ season, a certain faithful essentially outed a traitor as they attempted to recruit them (kept vague for spoiler reasons). The main issue was actually that Kieran had to reveal his role, a flaw with the game that's been fixed in later seasons. If there was more doubt, then Wilf might well have gotten by.
Was Kieran petty and emotional? Yes. However, I think he did exactly what I would have done in his position as Wilf created an environment whereby it was the only option left to him. Wilf made his own bed.
Honestly, the second he showed up on TV I thought he was a tool and he had no shot. I think he did as well as he could have but I don't think he's a good player. He got lucky coming into the season like halfway through. And he definitely broke the rules, he didn't even defend himself, dude was not playing the game. But the thing about the show, is that the good faithfuls don't make it to the end by design.
Honestly I don't think Kieran was awful but I do think him killing Andrea and agreeing to it was awful when Maddy and Andrea were the only two people who trusted him... that's the only reason I truly don't rate him super high.
@@princessbubbles9222 that's fair. You're right that he also made key mistakes, though I don't hold the UK season 1 cast to the same standard as other seasons of The Traitors. There isn't much logical "play" across the board as no one competing understood the game's meta as people do now.
I didn't enjoy how Wilf played the game, but to his credit, he did work out how to play Traitors better than most, including Kieran.
Am so glad someone is doing traitors TH-cam content 🎉
When you say ''the franchises history'', do you only mean the english speaking countries? Because I would say Katia in season 1 of the Swedish version is equally as good as the number 1 you described on this list, if not better.
Kate was fun TV. That does not make a good traitor. Camille, I think, revealed she tried to get Blake to turn against Sam, but they never aired it. Blake was going with Sam all the way, and she realized screwing them both over was the only option.
You didn't put polish and german Traitors 🤦🏻♂️
+ Complaining about Kieran throwing Will under the bus while Will was doing this as well but by Will doing that saying it's okay - DOUBLE STANDARDS 😆🤣🤣
LOL Ross got banished the day after he got recruited. Not sure how he's not bottom 2 or 3!
Without rewatching the seasons and without thinking too much about it, my ranking would probably be something like:
38 Loryn (NZ1)
37 Robbie (NZ1)
36 Mickey (Can1)
35 Mel B (Can1)
34 Ross (UK2)
33 Ash (UK2)
32 Ash (AU2)
31 Matt (NZ1)
30 Miles (UK2)
29 Angus (AU1)
28 Dan (US2)
27 Alyssa (UK1)
26 Claire (AU1)
25 Cody (US1)
24 Kate (US2)
23 Colin (NZ1)
22 Arie (US1)
21 Christian (US1)
20 Nigel (AU1)
19 Parvati (US2)
18 Marielle (AU1)
17 Paul (UK2)
16 Dan (NZ1)
15 Andrew (UK2)
14 Kuzie (Can1)
13 Kieran (UK1)
12 Camille (AU2)
11 Phaedra (US2)
10 Amanda (UK1)
09 Brooke (NZ1)
08 Blake (AU2)
07 Sam (I LOATHE him, but still) (AU2)
06 Kate (AU1)
05 Wilf (UK1)
04 Magic Mike (Can1)
03 Alex (AU1)
02 Harry (UK2)
01 Cirie (US1)
Harry was weak
Cirie is QUEEN. Watching her win the Traitors just cements that she is the best Survivor player to never win.
1:10:02 he did good but ooooou he got out played at the end 😂
I definitely think Alyssa was underrated and I do think Amanda is slightly overrated her getting rid of Alyssa over Wilf was AWFUL for her game and her getting rid of Theo / Fay really messed up her position and how people saw her. I do see Marielle and Amanda as very similar players but I do think Marielle's mistake was not as bad as Amanda's. Also Andrew did want to banish Harry at 5 but Evie and Jaz wouldn't do it.
Love this video and can’t wait to see all your other traitors content!!
My ranking of the traitors would be
1. Harry (UK2) 🇬🇧
2. Cirie (US1) 🇺🇸
3. Alex (AUS1) 🇦🇺
4. Mike (CAN1) 🇨🇦
5. Wilf (UK1) 🇬🇧
6. Brooke (NZ1) 🇳🇿
7. Sam (AU2) 🇦🇺
8. Dan (NZ1) 🇳🇿
9. Paul (UK2) 🇬🇧
10. Phaedra (US2) 🇺🇸
11. Blake (AUS2) 🇦🇺
12. Amanda (UK1) 🇬🇧
13. Kate (AUS1) 🇦🇺
14. Andrew (UK2) 🇬🇧
15. Marielle (AUS1) 🇦🇺
16. Parvati (US2) 🇺🇸
17. Kuzie (CAN1) 🇨🇦
18. Colin (NZ1) 🇳🇿
19. Nigel (AUS1) 🇦🇺
20. Christian (US1) 🇺🇸
21. Miles (UK2) 🇬🇧
22. Camille (AUS2) 🇦🇺
23. Dan (US2) 🇺🇸
24. Alyssa (UK1) 🇬🇧
25. Arie (US1) 🇺🇸
26. Kate (US2)
27. Cody (US1) 🇺🇸
28. Matt (NZ1) 🇳🇿
29. Claire (AUS1) 🇦🇺
30. Angus (AUS1 🇦🇺
31. Ash (UK2) 🇬🇧
32. Ash (AUS2) 🇦🇺
33. Ross (UK2) 🇬🇧
34. Melissa B (CAN1) 🇨🇦
35. Kieran (UK1) 🇬🇧
36. Mickey (CAN1) 🇨🇦
37. Robbie (NZ1) 🇳🇿
38. Loryn (NZ1) 🇳🇿
But it can honestly change after a rewatch. I can only assume traitors in the future who have these traitors as reference are only going to perform stronger both strategically and socially. I honestly think only Harry and Cirie have had a masterful game but even tho many of their games are flawed, the vast majority of traitors at least play an entertaining game 😂
What game on roblox is he playing in the background?
It’s called The Snakes. I played it two or three times, it’s pretty fun!
What is the name of the game in the background? And where the hell can I play it?
The Snakes
On Roblox
The Traitors Canada?! Where are the other countries located? I only see what’s on Peacock
Whats the name of the online game? My friends and i love the show and i wanna play with them online!!!! Thx
A huge part of me doesnt want to discredit Harry for his overlooking of Jaz, because in my opinion Jaz might be in contention for the best Faithful game of all time, since hes one of the few who made an active (almost successful) plan to win.
Ironically Jaz recognised one vital thing. The Faithfuls (much like the Traitors) aren't really a team and chose to play of himself. Ironically, he executed the same endgame plan as Harry and almost beat him.
Sam should be much lower because he actually sucked. It it wasn't for alot of the cast having legitimate learning difficulties then he would have been kicked out ASAP. Saying his early backstab on ash being a good play is wrong, way too early to back stab and makes him look suspicious every time he survives murders. Sam was one of the most liable traitors ever but due to the cast being so bad he was able to survive to the end
agree.. sam is not a good traitor hes just too lucky all the faithfuls around him are so stupid hahahaha
whats the game in the background called
What's the game You're playing in the background?
I know I’m late but it’s the snakes on roblox (basically roblox traitors)
@@papertowell7120 Better late than never. Thanks a lot!
I just generally don't like Wilfred since he throws anyone under him
What about the Quebec version?
1:04:49 ppl really pissed me off when it came to this guy. The dumbest group of faithfuls
Mike had that Freudian slip with Gurleen. He got lucky that she didn't catch on to that.
Which Freudian slip are you on about
I last watched T Can 3 months ago
@hazbro2033 I would have to go back and check to get you the exact episode and time stamp.
But it was when mike and gurlene were talking to one another one on one. Mike said something about how suzie would be coming after "you guys". He basically says one of you guys is getting murdered by Susie. Mike did not include himself in the list of potential victims because he was not eligible to be a potential victim because he is a traitor.
This is a common mistake where people don't include themselves.
Omg lol I remember watching Sam live. It was incredible lmao
I hated Wilfred, don't know why
What game are you playing on Roblox?
Nvm
Okay.. I’m seated 🪑 ⚔️🏰🖤
The Number One Trader? It is probably Joe.
Spoiler (if someone care about non english tratiors i guess 🤣) for traitors (förädarna), swedish version. Katja was a traitor from the start and she played everyone! And i mean EVERYONE - best friends, fellow traitors, everyone! Down to the finally.. No one got close!
I have watched different versions, have yet to see her beat by anyone else.. 😂 If you can find any of it with subtitles, please watch it!
I'd personally put Alex at 3, and Magic Mike at 5 or 6, but I like the list!
I would put Mike above Harry. In both finales there were similar situations: 2 strong friendships, 1 traitor, 3 players. Harry had the easier way out here as he was in the good friendship but Mike had the struggle of breaking it and making them betray each other. To me this makes Mike better. I would even go as far to say wilf was better than Harry. I give merit to Harry’s shield play for the simple fact of Ross’ recruit only. I think it is very overrated and had too much risks. Evie should’ve seen that it was not true after Jasmine was faithful. Additionally Wilf’s good friend in the game was Hannah who was less trusting than Molly. If they were swapped im sure Harry would’ve lost and Wilf would’ve won.
when nz s2 is done pls rank them pls ❤🙏🙏 (bailey better win)
yeah she did win, she did a good recruited traitor job 😊
Blake was pretty bad! Gloria sussed him early ffs. His over acting was awful
IDK about Cerie? I don't think she had to work as hard as Harry. The people in her season didn't really have as much game as UK S2. Cerie in my opinion was much like Amanda but didn't make a huge blunder.
it seems she didn't do much because she did so well being under the radar and her game was flawless, people came to her defense when one of the fauthfuls accused her even making the faithful apologize, she did a good job knowing what was going on with all faithfuls and knowing when and who to defend/betray and pairing herself with the most likeable player, Harry overplayed his hand by betraying the traitors and keeping the limelight on himself, he got lucky no one ever suspected that
I've only watched the Aus seasons but I can agree on most of them lol (help I wrote my opinions down below for no reason)
Ash got fucked over indeed.
Yeah, Angus ruined his game.
I can't believe Claire got fucked over for literally no reason imo I thought Jack had just made a joke but Olivia took it the wrong way and caused this whole drama that got Jack and Olivia both eliminated.
I agree with Camille she had a lot of leverage and if she used her power she could've basically controlled the game.
Nigel's social game was good but it was starting to crack around the end like him rushing for the immunity was pretty sus but you can pass it off.
Marielle shows that one bad move can ruin your game and uh one bad move ruined her game.
Kate got recruited late and did the best she could, she fumbled the bag a little bit and didn't end up winning.
Blake kinda just went through the game his strategy certainly worked but he should've voted out Sam near or during the end game especially at the final 5 where he could've had majority and easily gotten Sam eliminated because there was a lot of evidence against him
I have no idea how Sam even made it to the late game I'm pretty young and even I could tell his game was pretty bad it's just that he manipulated, banished and killed the right people.
Alex played her game really well her behaviour didn't change at all and she planted the right seeds and ended up winning props to her.
❤ the snake game play😂 same
Harry is the best traitor 😂 and molly is the best puppet of harry 😂
Where are the over 20 European Seasons Traitors? Many of whom are Superior.
As a true fan, who has watched every International Season - including the OG - De Verraders (Dutch), Hungary (Best possible franchise - 3 Seasons, soon 4), Russia (bizarre), Swiss, Czech Republic (Nicole is my worldwide #1 Traitor), Finland (where a brilliant Traitor was murdered for real, Post Season) France (Eric is the best Host!) and so many more.
Do Better. 😂❤
Wilfred #1 tho for me
Paul from season 2 UK is way overated. He is one of the most entertaining traitors to ever player, but extremely reckless. He had amazing ideas but was too eager recognition of his plan and powe. was his deal with confronting Jaz about the info Harry gave him. He was a far more active player than Milea , but far worse socially.
I 🖤 SAM ! The greatest traitors villain as of yet
the greatest traitor (IMO) is Phaedra Parks 😍
i do not agree with sam
The reason cirie should be higher than harry is that cirie came in with the target as one of the greatest survivor players of all time while harry came in a random guy
Cirie #1 😂😂😂 what a joke