I think John feels the same way as Batista does, but a part of him wants to give the fans a chance to say goodbye as he would feel guilty if he didn't give them that chance.
@@nicolasyt3845 What I'm interpreting from that collection of words is that you think Cena only cares about merch sales? Literally all he has to do is make another shirt, he doesn't *have* to come back, we will buy it because it's John Cena lmao Well, not necessarily "we" because I'm not wearing a good bit of those corny shirts. He has some bangers though for sure. The point is, Cena is wrestling because he deems it necessary. He could've retired like Batista and no reasonable person would be upset about it.
@@bullworthlessthe key word you used there was "reasonable", theirs a lot of wrestling fans that just aren't reasonable and will moan no matter what. They don't watch to enjoy the product, they watch to criticise it.
Exactly summed it up perfectly and I didn’t even mind when Batista retired I was just happy for him but Cena is literally my guy that shit tore my heart out
Yes you are correct but before batista quit in 2007-8 (I don't remember properly) for some years he was face along with john .... John was face of raw while Batista was face of SmackDown... But they had to choose 1 guy and batista was significantly older than john and he wanted to pursue Hollywood and cena and actually better than Batista so they went with cena
Batista was one of those titan wrestlers. That's what I use to call those super heavyweights like Kane, Undertaker, Big Show, Khali, Batista was one of those. I grew up watching the attitude era where wrestlers were technical, had great storylines and there was no PR and poster boys. The Rock and Austin were the favourites but they still competed with a hella cast of wrestlers which they were all equals as wrestlers and fanbases but they made it look more real that the titan wrestlers could go take out a whole lock room of wrestlers then they had this PR monsters Cena doing these things. Cena is one of the reasons I stopped watching wrestling around 2010. I even stopped watching Wrestlemania unless one of my old school wrestlers are back. If The Rock didn't return this year I wouldn't had watch Wrestlemania and I probably watched maybe 5 WM since I stopped watching in 2010 mostly was because the Undertaker and The Rock. I got tired of seeing Cena being pushed as the poster boy, burying talent because of his ego and then WWE made Cena winning and hogging world titles. He wasn't even a good wrestler just did his stat padding 5 moves after 90% getting beaten around which the script made it obvious Cena gets beaten down then he does his comeback and win. That's some underdog shit and mans was doing this against rookies and jobbers. This is why I stopped rating Cena when he started doing this superhero gimmick when he was WWE champion for the first time. The fans got brainwashed mainly kids a women was his biggest fans. Batista was overlooked because of Cena's PR but the attitude era fans probably preferred him because he had that Attitude Era aura of a titan
The movie that they want to play as themselves, yes, I believe the movie can be made. The title should be "Ruthless Aggression", and have Randy and CM Punk playing as themselves. If John can pull this movie out at the last retirement tour without making Dave feeling uncomfortable but confident enough to wrestle again, then yes, it is possible.
Gotta respect Batista. One of the only wrestlers who actually kept his word about staying retired unlike many like Taker, Shawn Michaels, Ric Flair etc
We need John and Batista to react to one of their old matches it would be perfect to see how they judge it and give great perspective I hope WWE can make it happen.
@@MrDarkness1119 Facts! If they can react to the Summerslam match that would be good I would definitely like to see cena talk about his neck injury that occurred as well.
@@aqibfreed4672 Cena admitted that it was his fault for why they both fell out of the ring so it would be interesting to see how they both react to both of them going out at the same time.
John Cena has every right to do his retirement his way. I think Batista is just conscious enough that he's not as big as Cena to think he deserves to go out like that. They're both right in handling their retirements.
Well Dave Batista to me is a big as Cena is, in fact in the future Batista is yet to be inducted in the Hall of Fame in which he is supposed to in 2020, but he will someday
Just like what Dave Batista says people are creating rivalries here in the internet and thinking they have a grudge or something, it really upsets me that they are saying that Cena is better really tells me they are just haters. Let me tell you, Dave Batista is happy how his WWE career ended and he accomplished much especially being the better wrestler turned actor in Hollywood, and rarely does make visits to Make A Wish for kids
From all the clips I’ve seen, Dave is such a humble dude. There’s no ego or personality difference. He’s just his honest self. It wouldn’t have been right for him to do a retirement tour as Batista wasn’t that guy, John was. John was the Michael Jordan of WWE for years and years so he’s making everybody well aware this is his last tour and that when the last match happens he will never be stepping foot in the ring as a competitor again.
I wouldn't say john is among the few who made wwe what it is today. He is 1 of the best babyface but wwe literally went downhill because they kept pushing cena even when fans were over him. Rock, Austin, HHH, Undertaker, HBK, Flaire, hogan are the ones that made wwe what its today. Even randy orton would be ahead of john.
@sadman225 He drove away fans of the Attitude era, yes. But for the fans that stuck around and especially the new fans and kids from the Ruthless Aggression/PG Era, Cena was a huge part of shaping their childhoods. WWE basically turned the page on the Attitude era and Cena was forefront for the new generation of fans. So yes, he is still a big part of making the WWE what it is today.
@@hamzakh555 it's not about liking a good guy or bad guy. Wwe is all about entertainment and story. At the early stage John cena was great but as time went on it seemed forced. Even the crowd were done with constant John cena push when it didn't mean anything and also wwe went downhill for that. It's all about utilizing the characters properly, they used John as a good guy so much that it became boring after some time.
In a way, that's true. John gets to boost his Holkywood career with this move and do things that will get him more cheers, like a salesman sending thank you cards to his customers. The man mainly sees dollar signs
I love both versions. Batistas is great, he got his closure & the one match he wanted & Cena is gonna travel the world to give everyone one last chance to see him
And so is Dave Batista, he was supposed to be inducted in 2020, but because of the Corona Virus and his busy film schedule he was the one who requested to delay it until a future date and WWE agreed with him
I see it both ways. If it were me, I'd want to just go out like Batista did without any fanfare but at the same time John Cena is like a mega-megastar so to just be like welp that's it will maybe feel a bit disappointing to his fans whereas announcing the farewell tour kind of thing at least gives fans from everywhere one last chance to go to the show and give him his flowers. Kind of doing it for the fans *and* himself?
@@tovolume He really wasn't! For the latter half of this era, he was about a top-5 or a top-10 guy! I'd rate him somewhere in-between. In absolutely no way, was he more of a face or "the man" than Brock Lesnar for example. He could do absolutely nothing as good as Brock(similar body types, similar style of performers), in the ring or otherwise. For a year or so, maybe even top-3. 2002 - end of 2004 Dave wasn't even top-15. John undoubtedly became THE face of the company, THE man! As much as i hated that, at the time.
I understand what he said. I retired after 20 years and they wanted to have a big party in corporate, I was working in another branch, even got a call from the Director, and told her, I came in quietly to the organization and now I want to leave quietly as I came in. She was ok with that decision. Just had a small party at the branch and then I just left quietly. I'm an introvert so it was an easy thing for me to do, but if you are someone else, you may think differently.
John Cena is what happens when you work hard and run into a lot of luck. Y’all should research the insane luck he ran into when he was on top, because it wasn’t supposed to be him. Glad he’s doing it the way he wants too
You're right, John Cena wasn't supposed to be the face of the WWE. When he first debuted in 2002, the company almost got rid of him, because they wanted to push Brock Lesnar, who they put the WWE title on 6 months after debuting. Cena didn't really click with the audience, until he started rapping and even then he wasn't the top guy in WWE. It was still Lesnar, until he left in 2004. Eddie Guerrero was the WWE champion (who took it from Brock), then he dropped it to JBL, and then it went to Cena (who was still on Smackdown at the time, and had been since he debuted in 02). He took the WWE belt with him on Raw, and stayed there for 10 years.
I disagree on the second part of your sentence, Dave Batista was also the face for years during the mid decade of the 2000s in the Ruthless Aggression Era and Cena is not the only one
Batista is the kind of guy who leaves a job quietly. Makes no song and dance just takes the goodbyes and thanks them for the time he was there. John is a good guy, hard working, but during his months notice makes a big deal, shaking everyone's hands and telling anyone who'll listen that he is off. Respect to both it's just the difference between an introvert and an extrovert.
It was probably the video game raw vs smack down why everyone wanted the rivalry, just a guess, 2 of the biggest names at the time, and great wrestlers with personalities that would bonk heads alot.
Austin and the Rock didn’t do anything like that and they are more number 1 than Cena could ever be.. Because it was be weird for their character and who they are. It makes sense for Cena to do something like that as it fits his character to a degree. Know what I mean?
Batista was number 1 early 2005, he was Triple H’s guy John Cena became number 1 mid 2005 he was Vince’s guy Cena was also a bigger merch mover that’s why they did the draft and Batista also had more injuries soooo that made Cena being ontop easier.
Batista don’t have so many that he needed a tour. But the people who resonate with Batista more than Cena are legends. Nobody has more beautiful traps than Batista. He was a perfect embodiment of an aggressive persona
I respect Bautistas' opinion but I don't agree with Batista.. because John Cena is a true living legend he has that special connection with people, as he says Hustle,Royalty and Respect... He is a true icon and how he interact with fans and everyone that's he's personality he's built that way and he can't change it even when he will be 70s' and 80s' because I believe God will give him good health, he was made for that business and he's like that....
I think John did the right thing…is good that he’s letting his fans know in advance and giving them one last chance to enjoy his presence in the ring before hanging the shorts and sneakers for good. How many wrestlers that we loved didn’t have that chance and just retired out of nowhere because of secrecy or injuries.
That’s his opinion tho, and if he looks back none of his endorsement deals, movies and money won’t be as big if he didn’t have that career in the WWE. He used to be my favorite but now naah atleast John has that “RESPECT” for his fans all through the years and decided to give it a one last go.
From 2005 to 2008, Batista and John Cena stood side by side and both used to be face of RAW and SmackDown respectively, during that time, I was a bigger fan of Batista than John Cena. However, after 2008, Batista's career began to decline, while John Cena's career continued to rise. I always wished that Batista could have maintained the same level of performance and longevity as Cena but unfortunately it didn't happen
With all due respect to Batista he may be bigger in Hollywood but in WWE they're not comparable. WWE retiring is like when Cal Ripken ended his ironman streak, you need to acknowledge it in a dif manner.
Did nobody watch the full video? Barista literally goes into detail as to why he understands what Cena is doing and that it's just his preference to not do a tour and just end it lmao
@hhoyt3501 Just like what @Adachifan54 said, and i also want to add that Dave Batista has a different mindset than Cena has, he doesn't want to make a big deal out of it. And yes they are not comparable in WWE, they have achieved their accomplishments, is Cena the longest reigning WWE Champion? Nope, it's Dave Batista is the longest reigning World Heavyweight Champion.
People will now start acting like they never used to boo John Cena all the time. They booed him for most of his career. Even, I personally think his matches are very boring. A lot of people stopped watching when Cena started getting pushed around mid 2000s.
Yep, because all the legends were retiring or going part time. By 2002 the halcyon days were over, mid carders like jbl were suddenly too guys because they were desperate
bcz no one cared when batista retired but jhon cena is jhon cena..jhon cena literally run the WWE for years..people who doesn't know about WWE knows jhon cena in my country.
@@tovolume oh you mean him being inducted in Hall of Fame? Yeah definitely but it's the matter of when they planned in 2020 but due to COVID they had to scrapped it and his schedule doesn't alligned for him to being inducted sadly
As someone else who is made wildly uncomfortable by praise I find it really interesting that the same weird pathology affected his choices for his wrestling character.
I smell some beef cooking...very subtle but its possible...i got goosebumps....imagine batista "bark bark bark thats what you do, i dont do that" wrestlmania lets fn go...please Cena reply start something 😅
When they were in ovw under jim cornette batista was the exact opposite of cena, he wasn't comfortable with the crowd he didn't talk much with others he said he is a shy guy and he didn't have alot of passion for wrestling while cena was the opposite of that that's why they chose john cena as the face of the company and not batista and that's why batista could never do what cena is about to do
Because never wanted you to give speech. Infact when you came back, usually after comeback fans cheered for that wrestler, but all got is boooos, and you realised that it will not work, that is why you announced your retirement on instagram. While john cena is the face of wwe, he has given so much to the wwe industry, worked all his life in wwe, we all wanted him to be there more. ✌️
I don't blame Batista when the crowd booed him when he came back it hit really heavy for him he wasn't used to being booed like that especially during his epic return I can say the people that booed were not wwe fans at all because if they would take a moment to realize the legend Batista the animal had returned and is in the ring but they didn't do that they were cheering for some new wrestler at the Time so I can understand if Batista just wanted to go incognito retiring and wanted to focus on acting got no trouble there especially how wwe not true fans acted like that towards them if there 🤔 wondering why he never came back it's because of them he can't see that again I definitely don't blame him
Your going to say the same thing about Cena as if he didn''t like Batista?, your just proving Batista's point about the internet rivalry that people are creating, it's not like they have a real life grudge like Bret Hart and Shawn Micheals
The fans quit on Batista. Batista didn't quit on WWE. They booed him out of the arena because he wasn't Daniel Bryan. Wrestling fans are genuinely the worst.
But you forgot to point out that Dave Batista came back one last time in 2018-2019 and was treated better this time by WWE and the fans in his third and last run. So after Wrestlemania 35, Dave was happy he went out on his own terms, so he is not coming back for one last time, don't expect him to do a Stone Cold Steve Austin comeback where he won this time in his last match
John and wwe want to make money. One last year to bring back old fans. I love batista way. He lost for his last match like what every wrestler should do. Give back to the business for the last time
John Cena's carer has always felt forced ever since he turned into a massive babyface. This retirement tour feels the same. WWE just wants to squeeze Cena's name as much as they can for the last year and a half. Lmao
You’re embarrassing, Cena is one of the biggest stars in the World, EVERYONE knows his name, he made millions of Kids happy while you were sitting at home like a sad f*ck. Lmao
Saying Reigns’ Run felt forced is a fair thing to say, But Cena got the biggest Crowd reactions wherever he went. He was polarizing but had a huge amount of fans, delusional.
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Watch the full interview with Batista on my main channel here: th-cam.com/video/017JuHsSN6E/w-d-xo.html
The more I watch Batista interviews, the more I realize he might be the most intense introvert ever
Laughs in Chris Benoit 😂
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@@tomdesbiens7541 haha true
@@tomdesbiens7541 again laughs in Chris Benoit
@@Dd-fb2tj again laughs in Chris Benoit
I think John feels the same way as Batista does, but a part of him wants to give the fans a chance to say goodbye as he would feel guilty if he didn't give them that chance.
Nah, John $ena always care sell you tshirts, nothing else.
There's also a lot more money in the way cenas doing it, I respect it tho because it'll also help elevate current talent
Dave Batista will say goodbye if he is finally inducted in the WWE Hall of Fame
@@nicolasyt3845 What I'm interpreting from that collection of words is that you think Cena only cares about merch sales? Literally all he has to do is make another shirt, he doesn't *have* to come back, we will buy it because it's John Cena lmao
Well, not necessarily "we" because I'm not wearing a good bit of those corny shirts. He has some bangers though for sure. The point is, Cena is wrestling because he deems it necessary. He could've retired like Batista and no reasonable person would be upset about it.
@@bullworthlessthe key word you used there was "reasonable", theirs a lot of wrestling fans that just aren't reasonable and will moan no matter what. They don't watch to enjoy the product, they watch to criticise it.
Batista had a storybook ending. Watching his whole career it made wrestling sense
Like warrior he was never absorbed by the business to the point where he needed it more than it needed him.
@@wizzerwiser2056 wise
It's different because John Cena was literally the face of the business where as Batista was a top guy but he wasn't the face of the business
Exactly summed it up perfectly and I didn’t even mind when Batista retired I was just happy for him but Cena is literally my guy that shit tore my heart out
He was the #2 for a few years
yeah john is the only face of wwe to say goodbye hogan and steve didnt
Yes you are correct but before batista quit in 2007-8 (I don't remember properly) for some years he was face along with john .... John was face of raw while Batista was face of SmackDown... But they had to choose 1 guy and batista was significantly older than john and he wanted to pursue Hollywood and cena and actually better than Batista so they went with cena
Dave Batista was also the face of the compnay as well as Ruthless Aggression Era. Facts. Period.
He’s not wrong, Batista was the type of babyface who the audience liked cause he kicked people’s ass.
Exactly. Kicked peoples ass. Not kissed peoples ass.
Batista was one of those titan wrestlers. That's what I use to call those super heavyweights like Kane, Undertaker, Big Show, Khali, Batista was one of those. I grew up watching the attitude era where wrestlers were technical, had great storylines and there was no PR and poster boys. The Rock and Austin were the favourites but they still competed with a hella cast of wrestlers which they were all equals as wrestlers and fanbases but they made it look more real that the titan wrestlers could go take out a whole lock room of wrestlers then they had this PR monsters Cena doing these things. Cena is one of the reasons I stopped watching wrestling around 2010. I even stopped watching Wrestlemania unless one of my old school wrestlers are back. If The Rock didn't return this year I wouldn't had watch Wrestlemania and I probably watched maybe 5 WM since I stopped watching in 2010 mostly was because the Undertaker and The Rock. I got tired of seeing Cena being pushed as the poster boy, burying talent because of his ego and then WWE made Cena winning and hogging world titles. He wasn't even a good wrestler just did his stat padding 5 moves after 90% getting beaten around which the script made it obvious Cena gets beaten down then he does his comeback and win. That's some underdog shit and mans was doing this against rookies and jobbers. This is why I stopped rating Cena when he started doing this superhero gimmick when he was WWE champion for the first time. The fans got brainwashed mainly kids a women was his biggest fans. Batista was overlooked because of Cena's PR but the attitude era fans probably preferred him because he had that Attitude Era aura of a titan
I don't know why Cena fans are getting triggered, Dave didn't say anything insulting.
@@1878OriginalsWouldn't say that now lol
And he was organic
so basically the case of an introvert vs extrovert
Met Batista at Best Buy when he was doing autographs back in 2007ish.. the guy was an absolute unit.. shook his hand and everything. Surreal moment.
We need him and John in a movie together
No we don’t
The movie that they want to play as themselves, yes, I believe the movie can be made. The title should be "Ruthless Aggression", and have Randy and CM Punk playing as themselves. If John can pull this movie out at the last retirement tour without making Dave feeling uncomfortable but confident enough to wrestle again, then yes, it is possible.
@@RoseyRK shut up okay !
Ha ha ha I guess you’re upset now
If john cena in Batista’s film then the movie will be a disaster bcz of john cz he Doesn't even know a single acting
Gotta respect Batista. One of the only wrestlers who actually kept his word about staying retired unlike many like Taker, Shawn Michaels, Ric Flair etc
We need John and Batista to react to one of their old matches it would be perfect to see how they judge it and give great perspective I hope WWE can make it happen.
SummerSham ‘08 or the I Quit Match from Over The Limit 2010 come to mind.
@@MrDarkness1119 Facts! If they can react to the Summerslam match that would be good I would definitely like to see cena talk about his neck injury that occurred as well.
Lol the 2005 rumble for sure
@@aqibfreed4672 Cena admitted that it was his fault for why they both fell out of the ring so it would be interesting to see how they both react to both of them going out at the same time.
John Cena has every right to do his retirement his way. I think Batista is just conscious enough that he's not as big as Cena to think he deserves to go out like that. They're both right in handling their retirements.
Well Dave Batista to me is a big as Cena is, in fact in the future Batista is yet to be inducted in the Hall of Fame in which he is supposed to in 2020, but he will someday
Respect for both legends. Why do y'all always have to judge? Sad.
I have exactly zero respect for Cena. I stopped watching wrestling because of how sick i was of his push, he might be the most boring wrestler ever.
Just like what Dave Batista says people are creating rivalries here in the internet and thinking they have a grudge or something, it really upsets me that they are saying that Cena is better really tells me they are just haters. Let me tell you, Dave Batista is happy how his WWE career ended and he accomplished much especially being the better wrestler turned actor in Hollywood, and rarely does make visits to Make A Wish for kids
Dudes... (facepalm)
@@richievelvet
Good for you 😂
@@richievelvetgood for you 😂😂😂😂
From all the clips I’ve seen, Dave is such a humble dude. There’s no ego or personality difference. He’s just his honest self.
It wouldn’t have been right for him to do a retirement tour as Batista wasn’t that guy, John was. John was the Michael Jordan of WWE for years and years so he’s making everybody well aware this is his last tour and that when the last match happens he will never be stepping foot in the ring as a competitor again.
Expect he is a brainwashed dog nutter
It's important for John to do that because he Is literally one of the very few important stars that has made wwe what it is today.
I wouldn't say john is among the few who made wwe what it is today. He is 1 of the best babyface but wwe literally went downhill because they kept pushing cena even when fans were over him. Rock, Austin, HHH, Undertaker, HBK, Flaire, hogan are the ones that made wwe what its today. Even randy orton would be ahead of john.
@sadman225 He drove away fans of the Attitude era, yes. But for the fans that stuck around and especially the new fans and kids from the Ruthless Aggression/PG Era, Cena was a huge part of shaping their childhoods. WWE basically turned the page on the Attitude era and Cena was forefront for the new generation of fans. So yes, he is still a big part of making the WWE what it is today.
@@sadman225 Okay, we got it. You are the cool guy who wants to show they prefer dark/bad-ass characters rather than boring plain good guy.
@@hamzakh555 it's not about liking a good guy or bad guy. Wwe is all about entertainment and story. At the early stage John cena was great but as time went on it seemed forced. Even the crowd were done with constant John cena push when it didn't mean anything and also wwe went downhill for that. It's all about utilizing the characters properly, they used John as a good guy so much that it became boring after some time.
@@Navman_ you are not wrong but yet wwe is now going back towards the attitude era, because that pg era was very bad.
Give Dave Bautista credit for his candor and honesty. At 55 years old, he knows exactly who he is and would never front for people like that.
I agree with both guys
I think you should change to "I couldn't do that.", which your current heads-up photo can give people the wrong idea.
That’s the point. It’s clickbait.
I think I need to watch some good Batista shit after work today. That does include Guardians
Same with me, i have been a longtime fan of Dave Batista since 2005
The more I see of Batista the more I respect him.
In a way, that's true. John gets to boost his Holkywood career with this move and do things that will get him more cheers, like a salesman sending thank you cards to his customers. The man mainly sees dollar signs
This Is Why I Like Batista
I love both versions. Batistas is great, he got his closure & the one match he wanted & Cena is gonna travel the world to give everyone one last chance to see him
John is probably going to get in hall of fame
Probably?
Yeah he's got a shot
why probably its a fact his gong in dummy !
And so is Dave Batista, he was supposed to be inducted in 2020, but because of the Corona Virus and his busy film schedule he was the one who requested to delay it until a future date and WWE agreed with him
Tyson is in that lol. The whole roster will eventually get inducted eventually
Cena And Batista 🙌🏻✨
I see it both ways. If it were me, I'd want to just go out like Batista did without any fanfare but at the same time John Cena is like a mega-megastar so to just be like welp that's it will maybe feel a bit disappointing to his fans whereas announcing the farewell tour kind of thing at least gives fans from everywhere one last chance to go to the show and give him his flowers. Kind of doing it for the fans *and* himself?
I agree and i prefer Dave Batista in the way he went out, but he will be inducted in the WWE Hall of Fame someday
John was the face of WWE while Batista was just in the top 5 guys so him retiring just hits more
Dave Batista was also the face of WWE and Ruthless Aggression Era
@@tovolumethere is only one face if wwe and that was Cena...Batista was #2 .....which is not an issue after all
@@tovolume He really wasn't! For the latter half of this era, he was about a top-5 or a top-10 guy! I'd rate him somewhere in-between. In absolutely no way, was he more of a face or "the man" than Brock Lesnar for example. He could do absolutely nothing as good as Brock(similar body types, similar style of performers), in the ring or otherwise. For a year or so, maybe even top-3. 2002 - end of 2004 Dave wasn't even top-15. John undoubtedly became THE face of the company, THE man! As much as i hated that, at the time.
@@khesipresents1885Orton comes after Cena and before Batista I believe but that's my opinion
@@tovolume No he wasn't. He was Devon's sidekick.
WWE used Batista so poorly in his last moments of his career there. But his acting has really impressed me more every year
The WWE fans choose Bryan over Batista and Bryan choose AEW over the WWE fans, that why Miz over Bryan.
Batista has harsh criticisms of Cena as a wrestler and actor and wonders why people take it the wrong way 😂
I understand what he said. I retired after 20 years and they wanted to have a big party in corporate, I was working in another branch, even got a call from the Director, and told her, I came in quietly to the organization and now I want to leave quietly as I came in. She was ok with that decision. Just had a small party at the branch and then I just left quietly. I'm an introvert so it was an easy thing for me to do, but if you are someone else, you may think differently.
Batista wasn't over when he came back the first time and he knows it.
Good interview yesterday
I remember when i was a kid john and dave were basically the ali and Frazier of WWE
Our legends getting old😢
John Cena is what happens when you work hard and run into a lot of luck. Y’all should research the insane luck he ran into when he was on top, because it wasn’t supposed to be him. Glad he’s doing it the way he wants too
You can just leave it at "luck." Many people work hard, but not everyone can succeed if they don't have luck on their side.
You're right, John Cena wasn't supposed to be the face of the WWE. When he first debuted in 2002, the company almost got rid of him, because they wanted to push Brock Lesnar, who they put the WWE title on 6 months after debuting.
Cena didn't really click with the audience, until he started rapping and even then he wasn't the top guy in WWE. It was still Lesnar, until he left in 2004.
Eddie Guerrero was the WWE champion (who took it from Brock), then he dropped it to JBL, and then it went to Cena (who was still on Smackdown at the time, and had been since he debuted in 02). He took the WWE belt with him on Raw, and stayed there for 10 years.
@@jerelminter I believe Stephanie McMahon was the one who see that there is potential with Cena.
I completely agree
Love you batista😊
Love Batista but he's not John Cena so that's why it's different.
John Cena was the face for yearsssss
I disagree on the second part of your sentence, Dave Batista was also the face for years during the mid decade of the 2000s in the Ruthless Aggression Era and Cena is not the only one
This will eventually age well
Never seen anyone make a rivalry of them
So it's official....Batista vs Cena Wrestlemania 41 1st night in John's and Dave's final match!
One of the coldest entrance in WWE history for sure
Yes that's the key words you said batista. You said you did it how you wanted. There you go batista. John doing it how he wanted.
Batista is the kind of guy who leaves a job quietly. Makes no song and dance just takes the goodbyes and thanks them for the time he was there.
John is a good guy, hard working, but during his months notice makes a big deal, shaking everyone's hands and telling anyone who'll listen that he is off.
Respect to both it's just the difference between an introvert and an extrovert.
wish batista and cena can do a duo movie
It was probably the video game raw vs smack down why everyone wanted the rivalry, just a guess, 2 of the biggest names at the time, and great wrestlers with personalities that would bonk heads alot.
He said, “I couldn’t do it,” many times, almost as if someone tried to convince him to do it, but Dave thought no.
And this is why Dave was always the number 2 - 3 guy in the company. Which still very good but you know...
Which he would prefer
And you’ve never been number 1 either so you’ve got something in common
@@happyChappy96621 what a stupid irrelevant thing to say. Majority of people aren't number 1 of anything
@@CYB3R2K I agree, i remember what AJ Styles said that nobody stays on top forever
Austin and the Rock didn’t do anything like that and they are more number 1 than Cena could ever be.. Because it was be weird for their character and who they are. It makes sense for Cena to do something like that as it fits his character to a degree. Know what I mean?
Batista was number 1 early 2005, he was Triple H’s guy
John Cena became number 1 mid 2005 he was Vince’s guy
Cena was also a bigger merch mover that’s why they did the draft and Batista also had more injuries soooo that made Cena being ontop easier.
John cena has to do this he different man
Batista don’t have so many that he needed a tour. But the people who resonate with Batista more than Cena are legends. Nobody has more beautiful traps than Batista. He was a perfect embodiment of an aggressive persona
I respect Bautistas' opinion but I don't agree with Batista.. because John Cena is a true living legend he has that special connection with people, as he says Hustle,Royalty and Respect... He is a true icon and how he interact with fans and everyone that's he's personality he's built that way and he can't change it even when he will be 70s' and 80s' because I believe God will give him good health, he was made for that business and he's like that....
I would have found it weird if others did it, but it’s John and I just want to see him for the last time.
I think John did the right thing…is good that he’s letting his fans know in advance and giving them one last chance to enjoy his presence in the ring before hanging the shorts and sneakers for good. How many wrestlers that we loved didn’t have that chance and just retired out of nowhere because of secrecy or injuries.
We want one last match between Batista vs John Cena
I wanted more of heel Batista
That’s his opinion tho, and if he looks back none of his endorsement deals, movies and money won’t be as big if he didn’t have that career in the WWE. He used to be my favorite but now naah atleast John has that “RESPECT” for his fans all through the years and decided to give it a one last go.
Cena is the goat
From 2005 to 2008, Batista and John Cena stood side by side and both used to be face of RAW and SmackDown respectively, during that time, I was a bigger fan of Batista than John Cena. However, after 2008, Batista's career began to decline, while John Cena's career continued to rise. I always wished that Batista could have maintained the same level of performance and longevity as Cena but unfortunately it didn't happen
Batista is starting to look more like a mob boss the more he gets older.
With all due respect to Batista he may be bigger in Hollywood but in WWE they're not comparable. WWE retiring is like when Cal Ripken ended his ironman streak, you need to acknowledge it in a dif manner.
Did nobody watch the full video? Barista literally goes into detail as to why he understands what Cena is doing and that it's just his preference to not do a tour and just end it lmao
@hhoyt3501 Just like what @Adachifan54 said, and i also want to add that Dave Batista has a different mindset than Cena has, he doesn't want to make a big deal out of it. And yes they are not comparable in WWE, they have achieved their accomplishments, is Cena the longest reigning WWE Champion? Nope, it's Dave Batista is the longest reigning World Heavyweight Champion.
You’re a clown
People will now start acting like they never used to boo John Cena all the time. They booed him for most of his career. Even, I personally think his matches are very boring. A lot of people stopped watching when Cena started getting pushed around mid 2000s.
Yep, because all the legends were retiring or going part time. By 2002 the halcyon days were over, mid carders like jbl were suddenly too guys because they were desperate
Did Batista dirty here...
Dirty on what?
How?
bcz no one cared when batista retired but jhon cena is jhon cena..jhon cena literally run the WWE for years..people who doesn't know about WWE knows jhon cena in my country.
hall of fame speech then
Ehhhh idk the person who fit more for Hall of Fame speech is Randy Orton due to both of them being really close friend
@@kratosgow342 Dave Batista deserved it, don't believe me, look at his accomplishments
@@tovolume oh you mean him being inducted in Hall of Fame? Yeah definitely but it's the matter of when they planned in 2020 but due to COVID they had to scrapped it and his schedule doesn't alligned for him to being inducted sadly
@@kratosgow342 That's the reason for the delay and it was Dave Batista's decision to put on hold until the future date and WWE agreed to that
As someone else who is made wildly uncomfortable by praise I find it really interesting that the same weird pathology affected his choices for his wrestling character.
I smell some beef cooking...very subtle but its possible...i got goosebumps....imagine batista "bark bark bark thats what you do, i dont do that" wrestlmania lets fn go...please Cena reply start something 😅
There is a clear difference between The GOAT and Dave.
I associate the word BETTER with Dave
When they were in ovw under jim cornette batista was the exact opposite of cena, he wasn't comfortable with the crowd he didn't talk much with others he said he is a shy guy and he didn't have alot of passion for wrestling while cena was the opposite of that that's why they chose john cena as the face of the company and not batista and that's why batista could never do what cena is about to do
Damn thumbnail title people took it wrong
Because never wanted you to give speech. Infact when you came back, usually after comeback fans cheered for that wrestler, but all got is boooos, and you realised that it will not work, that is why you announced your retirement on instagram. While john cena is the face of wwe, he has given so much to the wwe industry, worked all his life in wwe, we all wanted him to be there more. ✌️
can still has a heel run due in his career so it’s far from over
I like John Cena but I've always been a bigger Dave Batista and Randy Orton fan!!
Retire on your own terms, that's it
I don't blame Batista when the crowd booed him when he came back it hit really heavy for him he wasn't used to being booed like that especially during his epic return I can say the people that booed were not wwe fans at all because if they would take a moment to realize the legend Batista the animal had returned and is in the ring but they didn't do that they were cheering for some new wrestler at the Time so I can understand if Batista just wanted to go incognito retiring and wanted to focus on acting got no trouble there especially how wwe not true fans acted like that towards them if there 🤔 wondering why he never came back it's because of them he can't see that again I definitely don't blame him
He dont get it bc he’s not John Cena. Its levels to this kid
Batista acting like he didn’t throw shots at cena before
Your going to say the same thing about Cena as if he didn''t like Batista?, your just proving Batista's point about the internet rivalry that people are creating, it's not like they have a real life grudge like Bret Hart and Shawn Micheals
He is doing this because he was better than batista and it's a story line... And cena deserve it more than batista ..
Are you retarded? He literally says he respects and understands why he is doing it that way.
Your opinion, to me Dave Batista is just better than Cena, in fact he is way ahead of Cena in Hollywood
Bro Finally turn black
Yeah, he quit on the wwe.
He returned once again in WWE in 2018-2019, so this time Dave Batista was happy and satisfied the way he went out in his last run
The fans quit on Batista. Batista didn't quit on WWE. They booed him out of the arena because he wasn't Daniel Bryan. Wrestling fans are genuinely the worst.
because he wants to do acting and there's nothing wrong with that. as he said, he retired on his own terms
@@bullworthless No. It's because he's a bad wrestler. He's all show, no go and he can't cut a promo.
@alphanerd7221 Literally nobody had a problem with Batista until he paired him up with DB. You're embarassing.
Jeff Goldblum looks pretty big these day 👀
I understand where Dave is coming from. He was never THE GUY. John was...
Batista's second run with company was a big failure.
John cena can retire from wwe his career at Hollywood it more successful right now
But you forgot to point out that Dave Batista came back one last time in 2018-2019 and was treated better this time by WWE and the fans in his third and last run. So after Wrestlemania 35, Dave was happy he went out on his own terms, so he is not coming back for one last time, don't expect him to do a Stone Cold Steve Austin comeback where he won this time in his last match
Spoilers cena will most likely win all his matches on this retirement tour
He still gives up his time
Wrestlers these days just don't care anymore
Batista has lost so much weight and muscles that there is no chance for a "last match"
A year off putting people over means a year of John Cena loosing.
Yea okay Batista, go ahead and make your 8th action movie where you play as yourself
Wrestling fans missing the entire point of what he said od just nkt watching rhe full video. So much hate for no reason lmao
So he's never ever ever coming back
"It would feel 'disingenuine' to me "
Oh Batista your attempt at trying to sound articulate feels 'disingenuine' to me😂
If batista had hair he would of done that retirement speech. I feel like him going bald made him lose his confidence.
Cena is a schill for big red.
John Lena
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So you don’t wanna go in the hall of fame g?
John and wwe want to make money. One last year to bring back old fans. I love batista way. He lost for his last match like what every wrestler should do. Give back to the business for the last time
Nothing wrong with what John is doing. Dave shouldn't call it false just because he doesn't identify with it.
Dave said false because he didn't want to sound disingenuous if was told to give a farewell speech
Imagine if JC gets injured first match in and can’t do the year planned
I think he couldnt it
John Cena's carer has always felt forced ever since he turned into a massive babyface.
This retirement tour feels the same. WWE just wants to squeeze Cena's name as much as they can for the last year and a half. Lmao
You are sad
You are sad
You are sad
You’re embarrassing, Cena is one of the biggest stars in the World, EVERYONE knows his name, he made millions of Kids happy while you were sitting at home like a sad f*ck. Lmao
Saying Reigns’ Run felt forced is a fair thing to say, But Cena got the biggest Crowd reactions wherever he went. He was polarizing but had a huge amount of fans, delusional.